is LEVAN SAGINASHVILI the GOAT?

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  • @jdchallenges4660
    @jdchallenges4660 Місяць тому +34

    People who are saying that levan Don't pull that often... Only one match a year doesn't even realise he has no competition... Nobody is willing to have a match against him... If you're that kind of person that people are scared to arm wrestle... Then you are the GOAT... NO DENYING THAT

    • @wattacoolguy
      @wattacoolguy Місяць тому +6

      if he had more matches per year, he wouldn't be as fresh and strong as he is for his matches.

    • @fmayolo2279
      @fmayolo2279 Місяць тому +5

      John Brzenk went 22 years straight and lost 1 match. Pipe down kid

    • @alexlitsov9032
      @alexlitsov9032 Місяць тому

      laletin is the goat on the left then :D

    • @jdchallenges4660
      @jdchallenges4660 Місяць тому +1

      @@wattacoolguy na bro i have to disagree... He may not be as fresh and strong as he is rn... But he is just too damn powerful that his 50 percent effort is enough... If nobody can give him a fight how he is gonna get tired?... Remember he came back after an injury and still destroyed a very powerful Devon... Nobody can even budge the Devon levan faced... He would beat everyone

    • @jdchallenges4660
      @jdchallenges4660 Місяць тому

      @@fmayolo2279 we're talking about single round... Any competitors from past or present in their prime can't budge levan

  • @nightzu_
    @nightzu_ Місяць тому +8

    He came after an injury and faced the number 1 guy who was dominating so much lately and won so easily

  • @derBockmann
    @derBockmann Місяць тому +23

    I love how devon fans discussed his case for being the GOAT, if he beat Levan. But when thinking of Levan as that, they give him no chance.

    • @pachokardana6192
      @pachokardana6192 Місяць тому +4

      they are haters

    • @RyanC232
      @RyanC232 Місяць тому +5

      So being the biggest and strongest makes you the goat? Fair. I just disagree

    • @Bomb6A9Head
      @Bomb6A9Head Місяць тому +1

      levan can easily become the goat, just needs to beat ermes convincingly again and compete 5ish more years. it's still abiy early to say he is the goat right now, even though he might be.

    • @kristof9879
      @kristof9879 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@RyanC232 this goat discussion is so childish, levan would beat 6-0 every day prime john brzenk and you know it.. Who is the everest of our sport, who is the strongest and going to be the king for another 10 years, absolutely Levan, who is the strongest arm wrestler in the histrory of armwrestling.. Levan. He is the Goat .

    • @Aunt_Devan
      @Aunt_Devan Місяць тому +3

      @@RyanC232 being the biggest and strongest and also flash pinning Devon a total of 10 times is the same as the GOAT 👌

  • @TrapperBV
    @TrapperBV Місяць тому +3

    He definitely should be in the conversation now. There likely hasn’t been this dominant of a streak ever. He’s beginning to cross over into movies. He’s a highly revered national champion. His popularity is soaring. Every GOAT in every sport has different ways of getting into the conversation, and Levan is on a 7 year dynasty. Even if he loses a few times it’s hard to imagine he wouldn’t be a contender for a long time to come. Longevity is a major category but even with John and Devon they never had a dominant streak like this.
    Levan isn’t the GOAT yet but he’s on the doorstep imo. Put him ahead of Pushkar now.

    • @sababaratashvili8629
      @sababaratashvili8629 Місяць тому

      He was ahead of Pushkar even before. Pushkar got unlucky and had opponent like Denis in his time and that made him lose quite a bit. John is goat when it comes to winning longevity in armwrestling, Levan is goat when it comes to being the most powerful right hand and Denis is a goat when it comes to the left.

  • @mk5rob42
    @mk5rob42 Місяць тому +10

    John is the F-ing GOAT!!!! 🐐 No can eclipse John in tournament wins and World titles this is not a debate...

    • @OriginalMindTrick
      @OriginalMindTrick Місяць тому +2

      True and at the same time Levan is the strongest arm wrestler in history. Those two things can be true at the same time.

    • @mk5rob42
      @mk5rob42 Місяць тому

      @@OriginalMindTrick of course, I don't think John could be Levan. Too much size and strength difference.

    • @sababaratashvili8629
      @sababaratashvili8629 Місяць тому

      Yes, Levan himself said that as well.

  • @HammerFitness1
    @HammerFitness1 Місяць тому +24

    How many actual professional rounds has he pulled in in that 7 year span since he was pinned?

    • @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes
      @PerformanceEnhancingPancakes  Місяць тому +38

      but does it really matter if he crushed top 20 guys once per month haha. I think he pulled all the matches that mattered

    • @woahblackbetty7691
      @woahblackbetty7691 Місяць тому +24

      ​@@PerformanceEnhancingPancakesNot when it comes to goat status, everyone has off days and its easier when you only have to peak once a year to compete, to quote Conor "Show me some activity"

    • @Maradnus
      @Maradnus Місяць тому +2

      4 I think.. LOL
      Ermes,
      Devon,
      Dave,
      Vitali..
      There may be another

    • @Anzunai
      @Anzunai Місяць тому +27

      @@woahblackbetty7691 There's nobody that'll give him that kind of activity as he's ran through everyone especially Vitaly at his peak and legit just held Dave Chaffee at the table on the first round in 2021 with 6 - 0. 4-2 Ermes, 4-0 Devon rematch, 6-0 Devon first match. 6-0 Kydyrgaly, 6-0 Tim, hes dominated. Who else is he gonna face? Devons already taken down all the top guys and he got flash pinned by an recovering levan. Only person with a chance is either ermes again or alex kurdecha. Whats the point of him pulling all the time if it's just going to be absolute annhilation.

    • @kristof9879
      @kristof9879 Місяць тому +6

      @@woahblackbetty7691 bro, you know that he would beat everybody, like why are the people tryna put him in a bad light, he would beat easily the top 10-20 guys in the world, and the top 20-100 with 50% like whats the point of this comment, he would beat absolutely everybody if he has match every month

  • @kristof9879
    @kristof9879 Місяць тому +6

    ​ this goat discussion is so childish, levan would beat 6-0 every day prime john brzenk and you know it.. Who is the everest of our sport, who is the strongest and going to be the king for another 10 years, absolutely Levan, who is the strongest arm wrestler in the histrory of armwrestling.. Levan. He is the Goat and people that are denying it are the haters of him

    • @dexio8601
      @dexio8601 Місяць тому +2

      Of course he'd beat John, look at the size of him, could Levan beat 20 other Levans for a 10-20 year period? 😅

  • @DynomyteDewd91
    @DynomyteDewd91 Місяць тому +2

    People will say Levan doesn’t have the longevity yet, and fine, but Levan is definitely the highest level the sport has ever seen thus far.

  • @alienschmaliens
    @alienschmaliens Місяць тому +1

    Levan had to run his elbow off the table multiple times to not get pinned by Ermes... Those are legit pins.

  • @FightmeAW.
    @FightmeAW. Місяць тому +1

    Levan is most likely the SOAT (Strongest Of All Time) - Top level strength(s) as displayed on the table.
    Honorable Mentions:
    PRIME Alexey Voevoda, PRIME Denis Cyplenkov, PRIME Andrey Pushkar, Cleve Dean (Potential), PRIME Richard Lupkes.
    John is most likely the GOAT (Greatest Of All Time) - Top collection of achievements and diversity of accomplishments for high level competition over time.
    Honorable Mentions:
    Engin Terzi, Nurdaulet Aiderkhan, Khadzimurat Zoloev, Kydyrgali Ongarbaev, Ron Bath, Todd Hutchings.
    Devon is most likely the BOAT (Best Of All Time) - Top technical knowledge and application as displayed on the table in high level competition.
    Honorable Mentions:
    Engin Terzi, John Brzenk, Evgeny Prudnik, Kydyrgali Ongarbaev, Michael Todd (yes really), Davit Samushia, Mindaugas Legendsaitis.
    List shortened so it doesn't go on forever.....

  • @phothewin6019
    @phothewin6019 Місяць тому +1

    This is how I approach the GOAT conversation in armwrestling:
    Levan: *Most dominant* of all time (strongest ever, most unbeatable)
    Devon: *Best* of all time (P4P - skills, strength, ability)
    John: *Greatest* of all time (undeniably integral to the history of the sport as a pioneer, historic career with a plethora of accolades and achievements to match his prowess as a puller)
    It's the same way I approach the GOAT discussion in basketball:
    Shaq/Wilt: Most dominant of all time
    LeBron: Best of all time
    Jordan: Greatest of all time

  • @kbyiann
    @kbyiann Місяць тому +2

    John Brzenk pulled numerous times and dominated for DECADES against people BIGGER than himself, people argue that the level is different but fail to realise that John himself was of that time period, he didn't train in the future and time travel to the past for matches. Levan dominates alright, but mainly because he is the biggest guy in the room, everyone he faces is at least 50kgs lighter than him (30kgs for the big ones) and can't handle the extra power (weight classes exist for a reason). There sould be an extra class at least in the 130 threshold (if not in the 145-150), but that's not possible due to the low number of athletes. John was THE guy till his 50s while Levan might not be pulling (or worse) in his 40s.

    • @LB-sh7qt
      @LB-sh7qt Місяць тому

      The fact is competition was less fierce back then. People didn't make a living off of arm wrestling. People are putting their health on the line to win matches and everyone of these monsters are looking at dethroning Levan. All the different types of training are documented on videos and people have figured out more effective ways to train. Back then you could possibly get lucky and train differently and end up defeating the competition that does arm wrestling as a hobby.

    • @LuisGonzalez-gl4wc
      @LuisGonzalez-gl4wc Місяць тому

      Levan vs Cleve Dean, at his prime, since the latter was heavier.

  • @dangosh3340
    @dangosh3340 Місяць тому

    Definitely the best ever to do it. His dominant run is unrivaled. He is also very versatile. All due respect to the other legends in comparison

  • @Lil_Smelly
    @Lil_Smelly Місяць тому +2

    At this point, the question for the GOAT isnt a question of who is the most impressive, but rather just a matter of semantics
    Arm wrestling has changed a lot since John was in his prime, not only level wise but also in the format of the matches, there are way too many variables to be comparing John and Levan and I personally think its impossible to make a comparison between the two, imho if someone were to dethrone John for the GOAT status, it needs to be a weightclass puller, otherwise, if the athlete is an SHW only puller, they are the strongest of all time, SOAT.
    Hell, people cant agree on the top 3 pullers because of "style matchups" and "variables" let alone to make an conclusion on who is the new GOAT

  • @g-man2507
    @g-man2507 Місяць тому +1

    Depends on your definition of GOAT.
    Is the GOAT the raw bench press specialist who does 555+ in competition for 30-years straight in the 198, 220 and 242-pound weight classes? Or is it the 400-pound monster who has done over 800-pounds raw in competition for seven years and has been undefeated in that time.
    Both are iconic legends light years ahead of most of their peers either way.

  • @thesweetscientist2201
    @thesweetscientist2201 Місяць тому +30

    He's the strongest of all time. The greatest of all time is John Brzenk, followed closely by Devon Larratt.

    • @americanmade175
      @americanmade175 Місяць тому +8

      Cheaters in any sport should not be recognized for any type of praise

    • @zero082294
      @zero082294 Місяць тому +3

      @@americanmade175 what’s the cheat?

    • @emilianodavid7419
      @emilianodavid7419 Місяць тому +3

      not closely.

    • @karunak5983
      @karunak5983 Місяць тому

      ​@@emilianodavid7419yep

    • @Aunt_Devan
      @Aunt_Devan Місяць тому

      @@americanmade175 poor Devon. Juicing so much and still can’t beat Levan 👌

  • @JHAN1212
    @JHAN1212 Місяць тому

    If he keeps this up for another 10 years at least, he will be the goat. If he starts losing at any point soon, this conversation will be going right out the window.

  • @TetanusStrings
    @TetanusStrings Місяць тому

    That outtro is even more unpinnable

  • @Zorro9713
    @Zorro9713 Місяць тому +1

    Especially not getting pinned in the super heavy weight devision!

  • @user-oz6ep9qx1i
    @user-oz6ep9qx1i Місяць тому

    He has already cemented his name as one of the top three in history; however, I would really love to see him against a trained strongman like Brain shaw or continue his reign for at least three more years. If one of these two conditions materialized, he's the goat period.

  • @BigEMU1
    @BigEMU1 Місяць тому

    Imagine if Devon had won. This video would be about him.

  • @Aunt_Devan
    @Aunt_Devan Місяць тому +83

    He downgraded Devon to heavyweight class and hasn’t been pinned for almost 7 years so there you go 👌

    • @woahblackbetty7691
      @woahblackbetty7691 Місяць тому +18

      Hes had about 5 matches in those 7 years 😂 No but seriously he is definitely the strongest of all time

    • @zazagurgenidze7337
      @zazagurgenidze7337 Місяць тому +5

      @@woahblackbetty7691 16

    • @kristof9879
      @kristof9879 Місяць тому +3

      he had way more matches, but pls use ur brain, he is number 1, of course people needs to earn to armwrestle against him, like we know he is top 1, and every time we guess who is the second, he gets a match with him

    • @HumptyHampi
      @HumptyHampi Місяць тому +2

      Typical bandwagonner :D :D

    • @KENSHINSHOCK
      @KENSHINSHOCK Місяць тому +11

      Just for Levan to defeat Devon twice at his peak (10-0) is a very impressive and unmatched feat, considering how many victories Devon had achieved in the past and present.

  • @BigEMU1
    @BigEMU1 Місяць тому

    When comparing Levan and John, I think you also have to look at the level gap between number 1 and 2. There were many pullers near John's level, but Levan looks untouchable.

  • @beotho
    @beotho Місяць тому +1

    yes unstoppable.

  • @Fearonya
    @Fearonya Місяць тому +1

    Strongest of all time doesn't mean being the greatest.

  • @CongregacionSantos
    @CongregacionSantos Місяць тому

    Dios te siga usando siervo del Dios Altísimo. Fui uno de los siervos que al ver tu declaración publica y antes de eso se me reveló que algo grande estaba pasando y que tu conversión es plena en Cristo. Sigue adelante amado hno en la fe, desde un humilde pastor de una pequeña iglesia en Panamá. 🇵🇦

  • @ArmWarrior69
    @ArmWarrior69 Місяць тому +29

    GOAT of armwrestling is always John Brenzk.
    To Be The Greatest You Need A Legacy Not Domination.

    • @Jason-vj1qn
      @Jason-vj1qn Місяць тому +9

      So,answer should be devon ;)

    • @Bomb6A9Head
      @Bomb6A9Head Місяць тому

      John sheeps on some high octane copium

    • @fmayolo2279
      @fmayolo2279 Місяць тому +7

      @@Bomb6A9Head99% of people agree John is the GOAT, the only ones crying are you guys💀

    • @karunak5983
      @karunak5983 Місяць тому

      ​@@fmayolo2279yeah

    • @andyg4929
      @andyg4929 Місяць тому

      @@Jason-vj1qnI’m sorry, but Devon hasn’t been at the top of the sport for anywhere near as long as John.

  • @Gettin_chunky
    @Gettin_chunky Місяць тому +1

    No. Just the most juiced.It’s not a fair comparison. Devon is the goat.

    • @kristof9879
      @kristof9879 Місяць тому

      wtf are u saying?? thats why this sport is close to childs playing, Devon is nowhere to be goat who lost to Genadi and Levan 2 times, like are u ok or something wrong with you lil bro? zip devons pants up pls when ur done, smh

  • @user-yt7tf7rs6f
    @user-yt7tf7rs6f Місяць тому +3

    Important to mention that the only guy who was number 1 at both left and right for a decent amount of time ( especially on the left) is Denis, i don't think he is the goat but nobody else ever achieved it and it's really impressive.

    • @Melajied
      @Melajied Місяць тому +1

      Devon was the no one on both right and left if I'm not wrong. It was during 2008-2012 I believe.

    • @darthvader7886
      @darthvader7886 Місяць тому

      ​​@@Melajied uhh nope he never showed up to zloty or A1, he might be unofficially the no.1 then but he never proved it so denis was no.1. And btw on left PAL, he only had one match with pushkar in 2012 and never defended that title till 2018

    • @Melajied
      @Melajied Місяць тому

      @@darthvader7886 how is denis no one at that time? He was just into arm wrestling during 2008.

    • @darthvader7886
      @darthvader7886 Місяць тому

      @@Melajied i meant since 2010, before that john..

  • @snsdkbopper7819
    @snsdkbopper7819 Місяць тому +5

    Even Devon falsely labels Levan as the best ever, When the more accurate statement should be that Levan is the (strongest) arm wrestler of all time!

    • @hectorantoniodejesusibarra7431
      @hectorantoniodejesusibarra7431 Місяць тому

      Yep

    • @Anzunai
      @Anzunai Місяць тому +1

      If Devon is saying Levan is both the greatest and strongest then there's really no other answer. I don't think he's false labeling him, hes one of a kind.

    • @snsdkbopper7819
      @snsdkbopper7819 Місяць тому

      @@Anzunai When absolutely everyone you beat is smaller and lighter than yourself doesn’t exemplify greatest, but when someone beats countless opponents that are bigger and heavier such Brzenk, Hutchings, and even Devon, then that’s something worth bragging about, I can’t think of a single opponent that Levan has beaten that is as big or bigger than himself? Wow, what profound logic & discernment I have. But Levan is the strongest arm wrestler that I know of.

    • @Anzunai
      @Anzunai Місяць тому +1

      @@snsdkbopper7819 That's about every Devon fans excuse, is the weight difference. Going off your logic if Levan never defeats anyone his size then he will never get goat status, that's just so ignorant. Tell me since your so smart who you think has a chance at the same weight or near as Levan who hasn't already been decimated by Devon? Think of any? No you can't, why? Because there is nobody, and anyone that does has either been beaten by people Levan already destroyed or are nowhere near Levans strength at that size. You have no actual argument, the only one close to Levans size is either Georgi or Zaur but Zaur post to Georgi who lost to Devon who lost to Levan. Only 2 left or three is kurdecha or Morozov apart from that, there's no competition for Levan. There would be no point in him having multiple matches a year cause he would just destroy them. So how is he supposed to gain goat status if there's no competition for him? Cut him some slack, if Devon says he's the greatest then he is. Your opinion doesnt matter in the eyes of the goats perspective.

    • @PurpleNightmare52
      @PurpleNightmare52 Місяць тому

      @@Anzunai Levan won’t live to see 45. No human body can sustain the staggering amount of drugs and weight he maintains simply to arm wrestle one super match per year. Denis polluted his body with a decade of Tren and buckets of hGH, and it nearly killed him, but even he was never remotely close to 400 pounds. This is the highest peak of arm wrestling strength, no question, but there’s no chance he can sustain this for decades. He will literally die if he doesn’t lose at least 100 pounds within the next 5-10 years.

  • @RunForPeace-hk1cu
    @RunForPeace-hk1cu Місяць тому

    Yes

  • @dfhjadsgdhjasgfkv
    @dfhjadsgdhjasgfkv Місяць тому

    longevity and consistency. despite the juice. despite the size difference. that is what makes a goat. you dont just put him at the highest level if he hasnt been at the highest level yet for at least as long as the decades like john. you cant put him in the same conversation as devon in terms of all of the good hes done for the sport. hes obviously by far the strongest and deserves that title, but goat? nah. if brian v levan ever happens that would be a true test of his metal.

  • @chrisbrunette9495
    @chrisbrunette9495 Місяць тому

    Arm wrestling would be dead without Devon .

    • @PurpleNightmare52
      @PurpleNightmare52 Місяць тому

      Levan will be dead within 5 years if he stays at 400 pounds and blasting gallons of drugs.

  • @forrestcrabbe
    @forrestcrabbe Місяць тому

    Yup 🤘🍻🤘

  • @_StudentOfAll
    @_StudentOfAll Місяць тому

    Your favourite word is; Probably
    Probably Enhancing Pancakes

  • @DuckHunterGaming
    @DuckHunterGaming Місяць тому

    Strongest of all time no question. Still too early in his career to be the Goat but he could get there.

  • @paulcox2447
    @paulcox2447 Місяць тому

    It's Brzenk based on the criteria that sports use for greatness. It's not even close on those metrics, he dominated longer than anyone else and did it at many competitions. He was the face of the sport for DECADES. Everyone who armwrestles in some way or another owes their interest to Brzenk. The true godfather.
    Levan is the best, he would beat everyone, but he is not the greatest as he doesn't have the accomplishments. If Levan stays as dominant as he is right now for another 10-20 years, we can have that conversation.
    Issue is, as anyone intellectually honest would agree... He won't. This peak is a short term situation because it's only happening because he is taking more drugs and eating more food than anyone else. When Larry Wheels says that your cycle is insane, then your cycle truly is insane.
    Every sarm under the sun, all the major steroidal compounds, high doses of GH and insulin, all of it. He is only 6'3 and is over 400lbs. Much like the fat man at your local Wal-Mart, that build doesn't age well. All the gear plus the weight on his frame isn't sustainable. Not unless he is incredibly lucky.. It's def not the safe bet. Taking the most drugs to be the biggest and strongest for a few years can make you the best/strongest of all time. It's obvious he is the strongest. It doesn't create the longevity to be the greatest though.
    If we ever gets someone who is a "more natural" (not literally natural) SHW things could be different. Someone 6'6-7ft+ with a big wide frame, thick bones, etc. Devon is tall, but it's clear he was never meant to be a "big" man. We need a linebacker looking guy at 7ft who weighs 400+lbs while not being extremely morbidly obese. Someone like that could have both the strength and the longevity to "end the argument" and pass Brzenk. Of course that guy would win the recency bias over everyone too, especially if the sport gets more popular

  • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
    @ConnoisseurOfExistence Місяць тому

    Yes.

  • @megattack2424
    @megattack2424 Місяць тому

    Not sure about the greatest but for sure the strongest. So definitely the SOAT!

  • @workingclassfather1843
    @workingclassfather1843 Місяць тому

    He has a LOOONG way to go before that title. Years. Especially if the PEDs win.

  • @pachokardana6192
    @pachokardana6192 Місяць тому

    He is the best now and unbeaten for the last 7 years ! Devon was never able to beat him .

  • @zacrongaming2908
    @zacrongaming2908 Місяць тому

    i honestly think it would be unfair to considering how long John did what he did, yes levans peak may be stronger however for his time brezenk was the strongest out of everyone not stronger than current levan however the access to technology and science is far easier to get a hold of and training methods have developed significantly since then

  • @108mtsan
    @108mtsan Місяць тому

    I mean, if John in his time pulled only 1 match a year like Levan now, pretty sure John would never lose and have a perfect win streak as Levan now. It's a basic law of large numbers.

    • @jdchallenges4660
      @jdchallenges4660 Місяць тому +6

      He has no competition... No one is willing to compete against him... He's that much strong....what can he do about that?

    • @kristof9879
      @kristof9879 Місяць тому +1

      bro people are actually braindead, he is the mountain bro, he would beat everybody who is in top 10-100, why everyone putting him in a bad light wtfgff

    • @108mtsan
      @108mtsan Місяць тому +1

      @@jdchallenges4660 It's the fact Levan is a super heavy and has much fewer opponents to compete. John was a middle weight and had so much more heavier opponents willing to compete against him.

    • @108mtsan
      @108mtsan Місяць тому

      @@kristof9879 At the time John Brzenk was literally the mountain that everyone wanted to beat. Have you not watched the "Pulling John" documentary?

    • @jdchallenges4660
      @jdchallenges4660 Місяць тому

      @@108mtsan levan has a very large frame... He can't compete in middle classes... Talking about competition, we have sooo many guys but none of them are willing to pull him... I don't think it's his mistake.. Being powerful and big is how you climb the top... We had people who were able to dethrone john, but none of those pullers in their prime can touch levan... They can't even budge today's Devon let alone levan

  • @mustafakaratas7326
    @mustafakaratas7326 Місяць тому

    Absolutely goat. Most dominant ever…

  • @Antunes__
    @Antunes__ Місяць тому

    I think a trained Brian Shaw could really give him trouble

  • @andree247
    @andree247 Місяць тому

    There always will be just one goat, John Brzenk!
    But Levan is strongest of all time

  • @carpenterjim7906
    @carpenterjim7906 Місяць тому

    He migh be the biggest and strongest ever, but to be the GOAT of any sport is more than that. John's name is woven into the very fabric of the sport. His style and elegance and how effortlessly dominated bigger people than him for decades cemented his legacy forever. Of course everyone has their own candidates for the GOAT title so at the end of the day it's all subjective.

  • @mence5992
    @mence5992 Місяць тому

    After his comeback he passed denis in my list and is third behind John and Devon. But i have to say that o have john and devon extremely close. If levan retain his dominance for something like 3 years more he could pass them both

  • @chocky4805
    @chocky4805 Місяць тому

    But Levan has pulled 20 matches in 7 years, when John pulled 20 matches daily, its not a fair comparison.
    Also vitaly laletin, kurdesha and alex are 3 posible candidates to beat levan.

  • @antix7947
    @antix7947 Місяць тому

    I think Morozov in a far future

  • @hectorantoniodejesusibarra7431
    @hectorantoniodejesusibarra7431 Місяць тому

    If the bet is not about you loose , vut losse in lu oan raound , then you are the goat

  • @ryanayers1429
    @ryanayers1429 Місяць тому

    Not yet, has more to prove. He is well on his way to being able to claim the title though.

  • @Givven
    @Givven Місяць тому

    Kurdecha does not have the hand size to compete with Levan, Levan will continue to be dominant for as long as his body is able to withstand the steroid abuse that he is doing, I hope he learns from Denis mistakes and doesn't stay on Tren year round...

  • @mynameisnobody3931
    @mynameisnobody3931 Місяць тому

    Yes he is

  • @Anzunai
    @Anzunai Місяць тому

    I think there is a line that needs to be drawn with everyone's conclusion of Levan. He's remained unpinned for 7 years and faced the top arm wrestlers in the world especially Devon. Sure Levan has only had one match per year but you have to realize there is no competition for him. He has 6-0 most of the top 10-20 guys, flash pinned at that.
    He manhandled Dave Chaffee who is known for his explosive power in the first few rounds.
    He beat an absolute monster of a man Vitaly at his peak and 6-0 him.
    He utterly destroyed Devon the 1st and second time (with the rematch being a recovering Levan).
    He also destroyed Ermes 4-2 (the 2 rounds being for the withdrawl) credit to Ermes for making Levan struggle though, but he still lost.
    Take into account of people Devon beat over the time he was training for the Levan rematch. He beat Georgi, a stronger Ermes, Sergey, Dave, Evgeny, Sandris, Denis and almost beat Gendai (I call it a win with him vs Genadi, the refs were horrible). All that just for Devon to eventually get flash pinned in the rematch.
    Even if Levan had mutiple matches in a year, whos going to face him that he won't outright destroy apart from probably 2 people he'd struggle a bit against? There's literally no point of it because there is no real competition for him.
    Levan is an up and coming new Goat soon to be in there with John Brzenk and Devon Larratt

  • @Limitsarefortheweak5567
    @Limitsarefortheweak5567 Місяць тому

    And John was undefeated for 25 years more than double levan

  • @hugohoeglund1424
    @hugohoeglund1424 Місяць тому

    I think what's holding Levan back the most from becoming the GOAT is only competing in the open division. If he cut down to compete in an actual weight class, then I don't see him doing very well.

    • @darthvader7886
      @darthvader7886 Місяць тому

      His first competition weight was in open class...you want him to cut below his smallest point....are you high or what...okay let's ask devon to beat samushia and Arthur, let's go, same with prime john.

  • @amitaisaiger8784
    @amitaisaiger8784 Місяць тому

    I think he might not be the GOAT yet, but if he goes on and kills everyone for another couple years I would say he can have it

  • @vicentediaz6423
    @vicentediaz6423 Місяць тому

    SI.

  • @tinman3342
    @tinman3342 Місяць тому

    He hasn't been on top long enough to be considered GOAT yet. If he continues this reign for years to come, then we can discuss it.

    • @darthvader7886
      @darthvader7886 Місяць тому

      Wdym not long enough 😂. Were you sleeping? Levan destroyed all elite superheavyweights for 7 years , didn't losing a single round.

  • @KENSHINSHOCK
    @KENSHINSHOCK Місяць тому

    it can be said safely that Levan is the greatest armwrestler in the Modern Era, but no all time or history like John.

  • @hannesl1266
    @hannesl1266 Місяць тому

    How doesn't Vitaly laletin come to mind when it's comes to pinging Levan

  • @Bigramt
    @Bigramt Місяць тому

    John is the pound for pound goat, but Levan is definitely the best ever
    John is Sugar Ray Robinson and Levan is Ali combined with Tyson on steroids (literally lol)
    But yeah he is the final boss

  • @reimannx33
    @reimannx33 Місяць тому

    Yes, levan is the goat with larat a very distant second; brezenk after those two.

  • @nickthetoycollector3360
    @nickthetoycollector3360 Місяць тому

    Short answer, no.
    Long answer, noooooooooooooooooooo.

  • @judedubois8708
    @judedubois8708 Місяць тому

    If he doesn’t lose a round in 15/20 years ok but 10 years is still not enough to be the goat

  • @b2.u376
    @b2.u376 Місяць тому

    even as a fellow georgian i think he's the strongest one but not the goat john brenzk takes the crown even as a huge fan of levon

  • @ancientremains1814
    @ancientremains1814 Місяць тому

    No, he's the STROAT, the strongest of all time.

  • @ahmadwael6601
    @ahmadwael6601 Місяць тому +1

    There is a difference between the greatest and strongest of all time

    • @LB-sh7qt
      @LB-sh7qt Місяць тому +1

      I think that's an opinion. I believe to be the greatest you have to be the strongest. If Levan retires without getting pinned once how can you just say he's strong and leave it at that. That would make him the greatest arm wrestler in history.

    • @ahmadwael6601
      @ahmadwael6601 Місяць тому

      @@LB-sh7qt in my opinion, devon larratt for example is way more influential and important for the sport...levan is indeed stronger than him and any armwrestler but for me being the strongest is not enough to be the goat ...just my own opinion no offense

  • @oceanwaves83
    @oceanwaves83 Місяць тому

    Brzenk eternal GOAT

  • @KINGDAVID006
    @KINGDAVID006 Місяць тому

    👍🏻💪🏻🥞

  • @SDSen
    @SDSen Місяць тому

    The GOAT is John for me, and always will be

    • @Bomb6A9Head
      @Bomb6A9Head Місяць тому

      why don't give others a chance for the throne. truth will never come from stubbornness

    • @SDSen
      @SDSen Місяць тому

      @@Bomb6A9Head You can give him a chance, i just have my own take on it, for me the GOATS are the lighterweight guys

    • @kristof9879
      @kristof9879 Місяць тому

      @@SDSen no, for you the goat is american and you dont want to give it to europeans, because u are american aswell, smh

  • @karunak5983
    @karunak5983 Місяць тому

    Levan is awesome and you can't chalk it ALL up to roids but it's true that too much of what he does depend on roids.. can't call someone like that the GOAT.. imagine John being on a roid diet like Levan's all of his career ? he'd prob have been a different monster

  • @Katalin04
    @Katalin04 Місяць тому

    No Morozov, am i the only one ?

  • @Bomb6A9Head
    @Bomb6A9Head Місяць тому +4

    levan the new goat, just give him some more time

  • @Clearance1997
    @Clearance1997 Місяць тому +1

    in my opinion be the Goat someone needs to be dominant pound for pound and must be strength based Classic armwrestler not relying on cheap tricks or being a one trick pony and must have both hand and arm strength.
    Denis and Levan were able to achieve nothing pound for pound when their weight was similar to thier opponents the weren't as dominant
    Devon is endurance based armwrestler he use cheap tricks and gets in trouble by opponents even lighter than him
    he have strong hand but not strong arm
    John Brzenk is the only complete armwrestler

  • @jonathanlibeskind7641
    @jonathanlibeskind7641 Місяць тому

    John brezenk - Goat
    Levan - super heavyweight Goat
    Simple.

  • @MrNilion
    @MrNilion Місяць тому

    Highest peak does not equal GOAT in my mind. The sport develops over time and people pull in different weight classes. Obviously this Levan would absolutely obliterate any version John Brzenk but that doesn not make him a greater armwrestler.
    Greatness is about your skill, your struggles and your achievements (Atleast in my mind) and in those catergories John Brzenk still clears Levan.

  • @TheSmashEm.
    @TheSmashEm. Місяць тому +1

    Levan is goat,According to me my ranking will be:
    Prime Denis>levan>john breznk>devon

    • @OneDerscoreOneder
      @OneDerscoreOneder Місяць тому +3

      dog what?
      prime denis was so short lived, how could he be above levan?

    • @TheSmashEm.
      @TheSmashEm. Місяць тому +1

      @@OneDerscoreOneder may be short lived,but he was explosive and weight lifting was more than levan.he was having a well chance

  • @adamculjak3627
    @adamculjak3627 Місяць тому

    You can tell that most armwrestling fans are new because their so quick to dismiss Johns legacy and attempt to crown a new 🐐. Can you name another sport where an athlete dominated for 30 years? What about regardless of weight classes? People want to make the argument that the level has risen and I agree with that, but it's not like this is Wilt Chamberlain situation where Wilt was in an era where he was just bigger than everyone else. John was 200 lbs or less for the first 20 years of his dominance beating super heavyweights. In combat sports people argue over who's the best pound for pound fighter, you didn't even have to speculate in armwrestling because John was beating everyone. Including Cleve Dean who was 600 lbs. John retired for 7 years and comes back at 57, decades out of his prime and has had victories over Irakli, Oleg, Corey, Linn, Zoloev and more. Who does that? On top of that John didn't even touch PEDs until he was in his 40s when there was a notable jump in his bodyweight increased to around 230 lbs.
    As for Levan, I do believe he has attained the highest peak strength that armwrestling has ever seen. Can he be the 🐐? Typically goat status requires longevity with dominance. Just my opinion, but I don't believe Levan will be able to sustain his current level for much longer without significant health complications. He's abusing PEDs at the highest degree at a bodyweight of 400 lbs. You can watch MPMD video on this.

    • @darthvader7886
      @darthvader7886 Місяць тому

      John blasted tren , sarms and test and is fine. Dw about others

  • @jaimecolodro1588
    @jaimecolodro1588 Місяць тому

    I think morozov will have the biggest chance, more than ermes

  • @armzinflame
    @armzinflame Місяць тому

    Yeah GOAT my ass 😂
    get tests on every Event and get Levan off the Juice and we see if he is not pinable 😂 get hin than a rematch with Larratt when both off Juice 💯🔥💪
    And of course he's not pinned when he has only one match per year 😂

  • @oscarmaldonado209
    @oscarmaldonado209 Місяць тому

    I don’t think he pulls enough times a year to be the goat. I think if he were to pull more times a year he would definitely get pinned. Levan is the highest peak, but not the goat. Think about it, if John were to only pull once or twice a year I think he would also have done the same thing if John calculated his matches and peaked properly he would have probably gone on an even more insane run. The more you pull the more chances you lose. Imagine 2 basket ball players , one of them only shoots once or twice a game and makes both of them, and imagine another player that shoots 10-15 times and makes at least 80-90% of them, which is more impressive?😌

    • @Anzunai
      @Anzunai Місяць тому

      Tell me genuis who would pin him?😂😂 He'd dominate everyone in the top 10

  • @charmazelion5537
    @charmazelion5537 Місяць тому

    Loading yourself with steroids doesn’t make you the goat

  • @user-ie9te6pt3x
    @user-ie9te6pt3x Місяць тому

    i think a 95Kg guy dominating the open division for 30 years should be the GOAT...go figure

  • @jakesarmwrestlinguniverse9792
    @jakesarmwrestlinguniverse9792 Місяць тому

    Levan spent over 10 years full time just working out to get bigger and competing in armwrestling. Devon has been doing it 6 years... Devon is GOAT?

    • @jakesarmwrestlinguniverse9792
      @jakesarmwrestlinguniverse9792 Місяць тому

      Idk. I guess it's only fair. What are we even talking about unless we just acknowledge who wins. Levan is GOAT? SOAT? BOAT? He did beat Devon 😔

  • @therealhonestraider7921
    @therealhonestraider7921 Місяць тому

    HES THE GOAT AT TAKING ANABOLICS AND SARMS... AND RUINING THE SPORT OF ARMWRESTLING WITH HIS UNETHICAL USE OF THESE DRUGS. UNTIL TESTING FOR PEDS IS DONE... THIS SPORT IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER JOKE... NOT 1 OUTCOME CAN BE CONSIDERED LEGITIMATE WHEN PED USE INVOLVED.

  • @lovefrompraha
    @lovefrompraha Місяць тому

    The strongest of all time yes. Greatest? No. Being 100 kg of gear heavier than all your competition doesn't make you the greatest. I mean shit, Bowen or Schoolboy could be that size, weight and strength and do the same shit. Still John, with Devon in second. If Levan can dominate like this for at least the next 20 years then yes definitely

  • @Mrkoolaid333
    @Mrkoolaid333 Місяць тому +1

    Levan will NEVER be the GOAT!!! The guy Armwrestles 1 time every 2 years🤣🤣🤣. King Devon will end in being the GOAT when he retires, he’s had waaaaay more matches in his career and beat 99% of the competitors out there!

  • @GiftedLover
    @GiftedLover Місяць тому

    This is a trick question right? GOD is the greatest of all time.

  • @sudhara4073
    @sudhara4073 Місяць тому

    Nope. He gotta pull more often.

  • @cris9584
    @cris9584 Місяць тому +1

    Levan will never be the GOAT because he almost never competes, if he remains undefeated in 10 years it is only because he only had 10 matches, no one can be the GOAT for only 10 matches. John Brzenk competed much more often

    • @Anzunai
      @Anzunai Місяць тому +1

      Because who is he gonna face??????? Levan will just destroy everyone else. Think Cris think

    • @cris9584
      @cris9584 Місяць тому

      ​@@Anzunai Jhon too and yet he continued to face the best. Furthermore Levan could still defend his title against opponents such as: revenge vs vitaly, revenge vs ermes, georgi, Genadi, Morozov, Kurdecha, Denis, healthy Zaur. And all these encounters are going to take years to have, if it were someone like John I would face them almost immediately

    • @Anzunai
      @Anzunai Місяць тому +1

      @@cris9584 Buddy listen, Vitaly lost to Dave Chaffee and Ermes not too long ago, Dave Chaffee got manhandled by Levan. Georgi lost to a stronger Devon and Devon recently just got flash pinned 4-0. Genadi was fighting for his life and should of lost to Devon. Zaur got destroyed in his last match, couldn't hold out for a few rounds gassed out quick. Denis lost to a stronger Devon who once again got flash pinned by a recovering Levan, Ermes also lost to Devon again. Only people are kurchdecha and morozov. So what thats 2 matches in a year?

  • @RoninPyro77
    @RoninPyro77 Місяць тому

    The only thing Levan is the goat of is surviving absurd amounts of steroid use.

  • @damned-in-black
    @damned-in-black Місяць тому

    Hey you performance enhancing pancakes dont make this channel shitty !

  • @wbgsci
    @wbgsci Місяць тому

    Strongest of all time? Yes. Greatest of all time? No.

  • @LegendofNelda
    @LegendofNelda Місяць тому

    Levan is the GOAT 100%. Breznk was never that dominant

  • @americanmade175
    @americanmade175 Місяць тому

    No, he's using a drug that gives him supernatural strength that makes him a cheater, just like many others but Levan took it much much further and most likely carved out 20 -30 years of his life

  • @Mode307
    @Mode307 Місяць тому

    He's the Goat but since he's not interesting enough and kinda boring compared to Devon, Devon is people's goat for now

  • @jokelot5221
    @jokelot5221 Місяць тому

    Yes, if Levan can go 10 years without losing(not round, just not losing) he is in the conversation. Levan is surely the most dominant number 1 in history. In terms of legacy and impact on the sport, John and Devon did more at this point. We will see.

  • @Sowa619
    @Sowa619 Місяць тому

    He is strongest of all time, but not greatest...