that #1 defense stat is misleading. if you give up a lot of yards on returns etc the defense will have less yards to give up until they score. that means in total defense you’ll do better than someone with better special teams
@@StarWarsUniversity pretty sure they had the widest margin between total yards and yards allowed in nfl history though. That's a little more than fluky
Has the prettiest "ugly" mechanics the game will ever see. loved watching this man sling it, his trash talk, his fire. He deserved more. Thank you for the memories sir. Go take care of that huge family
well said bro, couldn't have said it any better, other than I'd like to see him give the Colts 1 more year, especially with how well they did this year, barely lost to the Bills
As a Chargers fan, it was an honor to have Philip Rivers as our quarterback for 15 years, even if he didn't make it to a super bowl. I know for sure he will make it to Canton one day
@Bradley Taft Ware I think youre wrong is he isnt a victim of competing in an era where rules are created by the same organization that has a hall of fame to begin with. Ware I think youre also wrong is Brady, Brees etc all play in that same era. Ware you also might be wrong is in thinking that all the players in the hall of fame have won championships.
@Bradley Taft good thing no one cares what you think so hes going in regardless. "it is very easy throwing the football" - guy whos never thrown a football.
Insane!!! Packers had Favre and Rodgers at the same time . Only difference was , both Rivers and Brees were young at that time . Insane!!! 2 young elite quarterbacks on the roster at the same time . As a bears fan we can’t get one . Unbelievable!!!
@@supreme504 agree 100% I just think that by the time Matt Ryan finishes his career I don't really think he will ever win a championship in Atlanta and trust me that's my home team but he's going to end up with some crazy numbers when he retires same question will be if he can get in the hall of fame or not
Rivers always had a trash O line with the exception of three years, never missed a game, finished top 5 all time in yards, competitions, and TD’s in a league where he had to deal with Peyton, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Mahomes...he shredded the legion of boom and the Ravens in their absolute prime. Beat Mahomes in KC, beat Rodgers a few months ago...he beat the best and never missed a single game despite his paraplegic scrambling ability...unreal
@Kiki He beat all of those quarterbacks head to head brother. And some insane defenses. Spanking the raiders twice a year didn’t put him top 5 all time in numbers. He played with more HOF QB’s than any other time in NFL history man. Not winning a ring doesn’t reflect badly on him. He did his job better than most. His numbers and success speaks for itself.
@Kiki He's in the HOF cause you can't deny his numbers and milestones he's achieved. But I do agree that his other points are excuses for not winning. There's no shame to losing to those qb's, but you're just not on their level. So he's HOF just not in that class of top 10-20 qb's all time.
Forever will be my favorite player of all time. Growing up in San Diego we didn't have a lot of success but he always showed up to play. He has my utmost respect, if you're from SD he probably has yours too, and I wish him nothing but the best going forward. Sad he didn't retire a Charger but happy that Indy welcomed him with open arms and treated him well
Phillip Rivers can't beat the Brady and the Pats in the playoffs yet Eli did twice. Do you even trust Rivers to go into Lambeau and beat Rodgers like Eli did?
@@majormarketing6552 there’s always gotta be a loser not everyone’s gonna win a championship people are weird he wasn’t bad tbh had great players to play against!
“Open the GATES and let the RIVERS flow” hope he gets in the HOF he even made me watch all of Indy games and was rooting for him to win that SB he is missing.
Unfortunately yes lol brees, Manning, brady, rivers, rothlisberger, Rodgers(has some more years) the great qbs of my childhood lol ima miss them. But Wilson, Watson, Jackson, Mahomes, Murray, Mayfield(He will be great i believe) Is a pretty good replacement group.
Add on your Josh Allen Trevor Lawrence? Justin Herbert Joe Burrow Jalen Hurts? This will be the GOLDEN ERA OF QBS most Quantity and Quality if u can do a Dynasty or anything close that'll be AMAZING
@@DuhCL0WN No need for question marks lol i didn't forget just at work so I'm tryna keep it short but most definitely they will be great too ima have a lot of fun watching football in my 20s
@@jackb750 Yea true but mostly these were the qbs that were there when i first started watching i was 5 years old when he got in the league and 8 when first seen him play. So i kinda threw him up there cuz hes old to me lol he still got it my 4th favorite qb lol
Thank you for your season as a Colt. I wish you were still my QB1 at the start of next season. I hope your retirement is everything you ever wanted, and I hope you get a dadgum State Championship at your school your gonna coach. As a die hard colts fan who hated playing against you, I’ve come to appreciate and love seeing you in a Colts Uniform. Best of wishes Uncle Phil!!
@@Amrase_ He was the best QB in the league in 2008 hands down. Highest passer rating, highest TD-INT ratio, highest YPA, 3rd most yards, 2nd highest completion percentage, etc. But Peyton Manning won MVP that year because the Colts went 12-4 while the Chargers went 8-8.
@@Amrase_ So many years Rivers placed not 3rd or 4th but SECOND to just ONE of Brady, Brees, Peyton, -- and he was better than Roethlisberger and Eli any season. That is why he was second in Pro Bowl QB ratings, about SIX times out of eight selections. The Hall of Fame is (also) about a body of work, What QB is in the HOF for one SB ring? And are you saying character means nothing? Because Rivers was famous for his fiery nature and unique language -- and walking tall. Or do you have to be a narcissist to be in the Hall of Fame?
This one hurt. Woke up to my phone blowing up about my boy Phil. I thought he was coming back for 1 more but 17 seasons for #17 is just as nice. Gonna miss rooting for you every Sunday since 06 and finally getting to watch you play live in 2018. Thanks for the memories PR17⚡️
I love that we have Herbert now BUT Rivers will always hold a place in the hearts of all Charger nation. Thank you for the amazing performance Philly Rivs! I only hate that our ownership (the worst in the league) NEVER gave you a chance to win it all. Spanos family is cheap, they don't care about winning, they don't care about their players or fan base. In spite of this, Philly Rivs showed up and balled out.
They are cheap they only get players on discounts- aka after injuries or undrafted players with a good season. They will never go after a top market player
@@Zigoutlaw33 Which has been the case with the Chargers since 1966, when Barron Hilton sold the team to Gene Klein and Sam Schulman, who ran the franchise into the ground in the late 60s and early 70s, and even considered moving it to Seattle.
@@oscartirado8146 You colts fans are absolutely absurd- he took you to the post season nearly won a playoff game and “he did nothing for us” literally so ungrateful to your players, also deshaun Watson would Never go to the colts Lol
Rivers is right up there with the rest of the gun slingers. To win a Superbowl, you need close to perfection and commitment from the owner, right down to the cleaning service. Rivers always did his job with enthusiasm and excellence.
@HiiDE phillip's defense was stacked had castillo phillips merriman antonio cromartie all in their prime he played with eric weddle he had vincent jackson L.T Lorenzo Neal Antonio Gates Eli Manning never had as much offensive talent like Rivers had and Rivers didn't win any championships and Eli did twice rivers had a three headed monster in the backfield he had sproles l.t and michael turner I love rivers his attitude and how he argues with people but you cant compare the 2
Ironically enough I actually said to someone in school that year that the jets would beat the chargers lol I wasn’t even confident that it would’ve actually happened 🤣🤣🤣
So you’re saying Phillip hasn’t been good since the jets have been good? That means he’s mediocre at best. Give any average QB 17 years and I bet they have stats like his
I couldn’t agree any more with either statement. I am a raider fan. I’ve had the pleasure of watching Philip Rivers grow and be a very great player and in many of his years shred the raiders... I’m not afraid to admit that and I’m not gonna sit here and hate on what he achieved. He’s a damn good qb and played with a chip on him. Congrats on your successful career and enjoy retirement and your family
Philip Rivers has been on some loaded football teams and yet never got to a Super Bowl. Heading into the 2009 postseason, I was convinced that the San Diego Chargers were the best team in all of football. They ended up being one-and-done thanks to the New York Jets, who were just lucky to be there.
For several years they had the most talented roster in the League, but Norv Turner and that organization could never pull it together. I remember when they fired Marty Shottenheimer after going 14-2 in the regular season, but losing to the Patriots in the Divisional Round that it was gonna be rough for a few years.
One problem the Chargers had, and the Rams and even the Raiders had the same problem, was that home field advantage did not truly exist in Southern California, either in San Diego or Los Angeles, mainly because of the weather and the stadiums. There's a reason why all the Chargers' signature post-season wins have been on the road and their most crushing post-season losses have all been at home. A playoff game in San Diego was basically a neutral site game, and the same was true regarding the L.A. Coliseum when the Rams and even the Raiders played there, which made it harder for the Chargers, because they did not have the advantage that a home team normally enjoys for a post-season game.
As a lifelong San Diego fan, I am so grateful for what Phillip Rivers did for us. Man wanted to win more than anyone. He always played with guts and I wouldn't have wanted any other QB for the Chargers. Wish he could have won one but I still think he is one of the best ever.
As a Chargers fan, we had great moments and humbling moments with Phil as our QB. Although Ben and Eli both have 2 rings each, Phil proved he was the better QB from that draft. It's somewhat bittersweet seeing both Drew and Phil retire after this season, and I wish them both well in their future endeavours. But without question Phil belongs in the HOF, he's earned it.
Warren Moon is in the hall of fame, Dan Fouts also, they have the same amount of playoff wins , so based on that phillip rivers should be in the hall of fame.
@@michaelpolite3335 I honestly don't understand your comment. Moon, Rivers, and Fouts , basically all had the same career, so I guess throw rivers in there too.
Phillip Rivers is a HOF--the fact that him and Dan Fouts never reached a SB with Chargers and Drew Brees winning one when he left show how ineffective the organization is-I see why Eli Manning refused to play for them
Yet ppl make blasphemous statements like saying Eli shouldn’t be in the HOF despite taking down one of the GREATEST teams in the modern football era and beating Brady 2x with a 4th quarter comeback. Rivers been to the playoffs more than Eli & could never lead his team to at least 1 SB appearance. Some of those teams rivers was on had potential but the playoffs are a different animal
Very good player ok but "all time" great no. That's like saying Matt Ryam is an all time great. Ryan is a very good player like Rivers but thats about it.
He definitely going into the Chargers Hall of Fame. He will get in, just probably won't be first ballot. His numbers speak for themselves, and isn't Dan Marino in with his zero Superbowl wins?
@@Ah-ws9nm agreed you also can't blame the guy for being in a league with Peyton, Tom, and Big Ben. In his 17 seasons in 14 of them, those three guys won the AFC. If he was born 5 years earlier or later he'd def be one and we shouldn't hold that against him.
All respect to Philip Rivers on his retirement but if I recalculate, Rivers Drafted 2004. Super Bowl 39 - Pats vs Eagles (Brady) Super Bowl 40 - Steelers vs Seahawks (Big Ben) 41 - Colts vs Bears (P. Manning) 42 - Pats vs Giants (Brady and E. Manning) 43 - Steelers vs Cards (Big Ben) 44 - Colts vs Saints (P. Manning) 45 - Steelers vs Packers (Big Ben) 46 - Pats vs Giants (Brady and E. Manning) 47 - the exception, Harbowl, Ravens vs 49ers 48 - Broncos vs Seahawks (P. Manning) 49 - Pats vs Seahawks (Brady) 50 - Broncos vs Panthers (P. Manning) 51 - Pats vs Falcons (Brady) 52 - Pats vs Eagles (Brady) 53 - Pats vs Rams (Brady) 54 - exception 2 Chiefs vs 49ers 55 - Could be Brady if he beats Rodgers. Shannon was off by one but it's scary still when you look at it. 15 of 17 Super Bowls and it took Flacco beating Brady in 2012 BARELY and a talent like Mahomes to win in 2020. It's nuts.
How can you say Phil Rivers ain’t a Hall of Famer. His statistics tell the story and absolutely nailed on for the HOF imo. Unfortunately you can’t pick your organisation or Offensive Line.
you know people say well he hasn’t done this or that or haven’t achieved enough to be in the hof you know how hard it is to even play as long as rivers and be the starter for that long
As a Chargers fan, I wish he didn't tbh. Every year I was hoping that they would go a different direction at QB. Real Chargers fans don't get woo'd by the stats of Phillip Rivers because we know how disappointing he actually is in those clutch situations. So so so many 4th qtr interceptions you could see it coming like time on a clock
I feel bad for Phillip rivers he never went to the superbowl but he was a good qb now he hc at a high school it's great that he can coach kids and pass on what he learned from his dad and begin in the NFL and doing something good for his community.
@@copedigital Maybe he can be like Jimmy G. The colts seem to have most of the right pieces they can easily be back kinda like the Saints when i look at it
Bruh there’s a handful of quarterbacks already in the hall of fame who did not come up clutch in the playoffs. Rivers is not only a hall of famer but he’s a first ballot
Based on what? He has passed for a lot yards and had a long career. And that is it. Not even close to an MVP, first choice All Pro etc. Passing leader? TD leader? QBR leader? TD/INT ratio leader? Rivers isn't even close.
Im so sad. I cant even put it into words, he was and is my favorite player of all time and the sole reason I became a San Diego Chargers fan. Moreso, he was the Chargers. This hits different. Definitely thought he would give it one more shot with the Colts :(
Good stuff Shannon. I agree completely. Football is a team game and a championship depends on the entire team. 21 other players plus backups need to perform at a high level to get to a championship.
Shannon put rivers in the same era with Brady , manning and Big Ben but forgot brees was in the same era, while complaining about people not giving enough consideration to great players that haven’t won a championship but didn’t include one of the top quarterbacks of the era 🤷🏿♂️. The Brees disrespect is disgusting.
As a die hard Rams fan I will say football will miss Philip Rivers he was simply fun too watch and like unc said he played in an era with great QBs its equivalent to sir Charles playing in the Jordan era, cant blame these greats for not winning a chip. Its extremely hard too win overall let alone in an era of greats. See you around Philip.! Rams4Life!!!
Normally I wouldn't give Skip and Shannon a second of my time but on this occasion I have to agree with them that Phillip is one of the best that ever played the game. He played the game well, didn't politicize the game, he didn't disgrace himself or the game.
SB’s don’t make you a great player, that’s a team achievement in a team sport, does anyone actually think Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Philip Rivers? Or Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino? Or Trent Dilfer is better than even Matt Ryan?
Skip messed with Shannon. Shannon said Rivers should be in the hall, then Skip said basically you have to say that because a hall of fame player trashing a ballot would be bad. Then Shannon went on to state why he shouldn’t get in. I’m sorry but Phillip Rivers deserves the hall of fame. Besides his accolades one huge thing in football is being able to play on Sunday. No QB has come to work more consecutive days than Rivers. Let him in.
Rivers belongs in the hof. Probably not first ballot. But the "transcendent talent" skip is talking about describes first ballot hofs. Rivers easily will make it in as a 2nd or 3rd ballot. Plus rings are more of a team thing rather than a player thing
The way i see it is if Rivers cant get in because he never won, then Eli cant get in because he was mostly average or very lousy, but had two very good defenses both times he won. Big Ben has pretty good career numbers and won twice as well, he deserves his ticket to canton. If Eli gets in, Rivers has to get in as well.
Yea but those 2 were superior QBs to Rivers. But Rivers is a HOFer still........just not 1st ballot or 2nd ballot or 3rd ballot........he will get in eventually.
@@karanpunj6888 You're joking right? Dame ain't getting past GS or LAL. Not to mention that the BBall HOF is MUCH easier to get in than the Pro Football HOF. Dame will get in based on his play, but he's not winning any rings unless he joins a super team. Rivers = Dame is a decent comparison.
@@DingoDIDeatmybaby bro are you high Gsw might not make the playoffs this year, this is Lebron’s last chance to win another ring Dame could just demand a trade if he wants. Philip Rivers was never as good at football as dame is a basketball
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Eli played in the same era, has the same amount of rings as two of those QBs and beat the GOAT 2wice in the SB. O he also beat Brett and Aaron 2wice in Lambo. If Rivers is a hall of famer so is Eli, stop throwing shade on my guy.
Does Philip Rivers deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame?
yes
Yes he does
damn yes he does
It seems like everyone with a pulse makes the football hall of fame and cheapens the Hall, but having said that, yes Rivers is a hall of famer
Yes
Still can’t believe how the chargers had the #1 offense & defense that one year and went 8-8 because of special teams
Just goes to show why football is the ultimate team sport
@@dannysoto1973 2010
2010 there’s a good video on it. Just search 2010 chargers and it should pop up
that #1 defense stat is misleading. if you give up a lot of yards on returns etc the defense will have less yards to give up until they score. that means in total defense you’ll do better than someone with better special teams
@@StarWarsUniversity pretty sure they had the widest margin between total yards and yards allowed in nfl history though. That's a little more than fluky
Has the prettiest "ugly" mechanics the game will ever see. loved watching this man sling it, his trash talk, his fire. He deserved more. Thank you for the memories sir. Go take care of that huge family
He never bowed down to any of those other QBs
I blame his defenses they never let a lead hold up in San Diego
@@Marsbound215 this year he had a good defense but he had no real good wrs
@@loaf5435 bruh, T.Y. Hilton......
well said bro, couldn't have said it any better, other than I'd like to see him give the Colts 1 more year, especially with how well they did this year, barely lost to the Bills
"I'm in the hall of shame"-Skip Bayless rare W
absolute W lol
Skip knows he's a troll but he does give respect whens it due he's secretly loves lebron we all know
only a real one can say such a thing about himself, goated show
That's why he will forever be better than Stephen A.
😂😂😂
As a Chargers fan, it was an honor to have Philip Rivers as our quarterback for 15 years, even if he didn't make it to a super bowl. I know for sure he will make it to Canton one day
@Bradley Taft top 5 in QB stats. He’s going in.
@Bradley Taft Ware I think youre wrong is he isnt a victim of competing in an era where rules are created by the same organization that has a hall of fame to begin with. Ware I think youre also wrong is Brady, Brees etc all play in that same era. Ware you also might be wrong is in thinking that all the players in the hall of fame have won championships.
@Bradley Taft if a hall of gamer thinks he’s in and so do other people that end up voting he’s in. no one cares what you think
@Bradley Taft good thing no one cares what you think so hes going in regardless. "it is very easy throwing the football" - guy whos never thrown a football.
He 100% will be in The Hall. Book it
The Chargers had Rivers and Brees at the same time, that's mind boggling
Insane!!! Packers had Favre and Rodgers at the same time . Only difference was , both Rivers and Brees were young at that time . Insane!!! 2 young elite quarterbacks on the roster at the same time . As a bears fan we can’t get one . Unbelievable!!!
I just realized that wow lol
Got rid of the wrong guy.
@@isachayden9987 how so
@@alfredmcglothen6050 you had Cutler...🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤣🤣
Philip Rivers was like Dan Fouts. Great QB who spent his time in SD putting up great numbers but didn't win a title.
Why are you commenting so much?
I think Rivers is better than Fouts all time though
I was going to try to say he's more like Matt Ryan is now put up a bunch of numbers be successful and never win a championship
Nah. Fouts is a legend and was loved by all. He had some historically great offenses.
@@supreme504 agree 100% I just think that by the time Matt Ryan finishes his career I don't really think he will ever win a championship in Atlanta and trust me that's my home team but he's going to end up with some crazy numbers when he retires same question will be if he can get in the hall of fame or not
“Well, I’m not in the Hall of Fame. I’m in the Hall of Shame!”
- Skip Bayless
He’s NEVER had a more accurate quote!!
Rivers always had a trash O line with the exception of three years, never missed a game, finished top 5 all time in yards, competitions, and TD’s in a league where he had to deal with Peyton, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Mahomes...he shredded the legion of boom and the Ravens in their absolute prime. Beat Mahomes in KC, beat Rodgers a few months ago...he beat the best and never missed a single game despite his paraplegic scrambling ability...unreal
@Kiki He beat all of those quarterbacks head to head brother. And some insane defenses. Spanking the raiders twice a year didn’t put him top 5 all time in numbers. He played with more HOF QB’s than any other time in NFL history man. Not winning a ring doesn’t reflect badly on him. He did his job better than most. His numbers and success speaks for itself.
@Kiki He's in the HOF cause you can't deny his numbers and milestones he's achieved. But I do agree that his other points are excuses for not winning. There's no shame to losing to those qb's, but you're just not on their level. So he's HOF just not in that class of top 10-20 qb's all time.
I think he's on the edge of the HoF. Maybe he gets in and maybe he doesn't.
He also had one of the greatest rushers in LT in his prime
You can't be top 5 in yards, completions, and TD and not make the HOF. He's in for sure.
Forever will be my favorite player of all time. Growing up in San Diego we didn't have a lot of success but he always showed up to play. He has my utmost respect, if you're from SD he probably has yours too, and I wish him nothing but the best going forward. Sad he didn't retire a Charger but happy that Indy welcomed him with open arms and treated him well
He was light years better than Eli Manning and that isn’t a debate for a lot of people.
Not even a debate imo
light years ahead is a stretch he was better but barely. he failed with some of the most stacked rosters.
Phillip Rivers can't beat the Brady and the Pats in the playoffs yet Eli did twice. Do you even trust Rivers to go into Lambeau and beat Rodgers like Eli did?
I’m sure Eli and his 2 rings are upset about this comment
Take away Eli super bowls and you have argument but with them sorry can't give it to him
Never understood why people disliked him I’m glad to have seen him play for the colts.
The media laid outrageous claims that he was as good as manning and brady. Overrated and choked when it matters like Harden
Cause nfl fans are stupid
@@majormarketing6552 there’s always gotta be a loser not everyone’s gonna win a championship people are weird he wasn’t bad tbh had great players to play against!
@@iloading_ you not lying tbh :/ lol
People dislike him because he is a wonderful person who doesn’t get into trouble and is a good family man
“Open the GATES and let the RIVERS flow” hope he gets in the HOF he even made me watch all of Indy games and was rooting for him to win that SB he is missing.
Look at his stats. He’s going in, maybe not first ballot but he’s definitely going in one day.
You had a great career, now go celebrate your retirement by having more kids.
In 2040 I wanna see Philip Rivers Jr win a MVP
@@Terror832 and runner up his brother Phillipo Rivers
@@jdelgado216 Felipe Rivers* 😂😂😂
9+2=11 two more and Rivers can call his own offensive plays at home
Facts!!...lol...when he gets hired as a coach, he'll already have the starting offense🤣😂
The end of an era is close
Unfortunately yes lol brees, Manning, brady, rivers, rothlisberger, Rodgers(has some more years) the great qbs of my childhood lol ima miss them. But Wilson, Watson, Jackson, Mahomes, Murray, Mayfield(He will be great i believe) Is a pretty good replacement group.
Add on your
Josh Allen
Trevor Lawrence?
Justin Herbert
Joe Burrow
Jalen Hurts?
This will be the GOLDEN ERA OF QBS most Quantity and Quality if u can do a Dynasty or anything close that'll be AMAZING
@@DuhCL0WN No need for question marks lol i didn't forget just at work so I'm tryna keep it short but most definitely they will be great too ima have a lot of fun watching football in my 20s
@@Saints-ji3vj i would not say rodgers yet because he could play for like 8 or 9 years if he wants too
@@jackb750 Yea true but mostly these were the qbs that were there when i first started watching i was 5 years old when he got in the league and 8 when first seen him play. So i kinda threw him up there cuz hes old to me lol he still got it my 4th favorite qb lol
Thank you for your season as a Colt. I wish you were still my QB1 at the start of next season. I hope your retirement is everything you ever wanted, and I hope you get a dadgum State Championship at your school your gonna coach. As a die hard colts fan who hated playing against you, I’ve come to appreciate and love seeing you in a Colts Uniform. Best of wishes Uncle Phil!!
His Mic'd up sessions were legendary.. And no cursing too. It was a pleasure watching him play.
Shame he couldn't at least get to a Super Bowl
@Kiki I guess those were his “good ol’ fashioned Rear End Whippings”
Any quarterback that has multiple stats top 5 ALL TIME for his position belongs in the hall of fame.
No mvps no rings no all pro selections. Bulk stats mean nothing when that’s all you have -_-
@@Amrase_ He was the best QB in the league in 2008 hands down. Highest passer rating, highest TD-INT ratio, highest YPA, 3rd most yards, 2nd highest completion percentage, etc. But Peyton Manning won MVP that year because the Colts went 12-4 while the Chargers went 8-8.
Yes!!!
@@Amrase_ So many years Rivers placed not 3rd or 4th but SECOND to just ONE of Brady, Brees, Peyton, -- and he was better than Roethlisberger and Eli any season. That is why he was second in Pro Bowl QB ratings, about SIX times out of eight selections. The Hall of Fame is (also) about a body of work, What QB is in the HOF for one SB ring? And are you saying character means nothing? Because Rivers was famous for his fiery nature and unique language -- and walking tall. Or do you have to be a narcissist to be in the Hall of Fame?
@@legendofthefall7082 Great example. And in his era to land second, or even third in ratings SO MANY TIMES is, well, famous.
All the greats are retiring I’m not crying you are
Lol they all gotta retire one day don't worry we getting a new wave of greats rn they just need a lil more time lol
Don't worry, we'll still get about 20 more seasons of Tom Brady.
@@perry7595 he’s the only one I want to retire
San Diego wasted Rivers, Gates, and LTs careers.
Facts. Such a poorly run organization. Hopefully they don't waste Herbert and Keenan's careers as well.
That and he played in an era of all time great AFC QBs
@@stupidfrog doesn’t seem like they are so far
Merriman Jackson Jammer Cromartie Turner Sproiles Harrison Seau ...
@@adrianburnette7597 Nate Keading & Marlon McCree. Figure it ou.
San Diego Super Charger #17, Philip Rivers!!!, THANK YOU for giving us Charger Fans your heart and soul as our QB.
"it seems like everybody is getting into the hof" - Deion Sanders
Dw. Kaepernick is making the HOF for saying BLM and for kneeling lol....
so a player who is top 5 in the stats the matter at his position isn’t in the hall of fame?
@@maxroque247 exactly there’s plenty of players who are in the hall of fame for far less
@Kiki well, Jordan's stats still hold up in today's game, especially if you look at the advanced numbers since he's right there with lebron.
Rivers is one of the all time greats what are you talking about
This one hurt. Woke up to my phone blowing up about my boy Phil. I thought he was coming back for 1 more but 17 seasons for #17 is just as nice. Gonna miss rooting for you every Sunday since 06 and finally getting to watch you play live in 2018. Thanks for the memories PR17⚡️
TO bad Philip could not win one maybe one of his 100 kids can win one
LMAO!! He has a LOT of hopefuls ..LMAO
lol
He probably wanted his own nfl team
TBH if one of his sons were to win a super bowl, it’d be more gratifying to him if he won one
Philip Rivers is one of those quarterbacks that will probably get into the Hall of Fame 15-20 years after his retirement
Heckuva career for him, DAD-GUMMIT!!!! Congrats on your retirement Rivers
I love that we have Herbert now BUT Rivers will always hold a place in the hearts of all Charger nation. Thank you for the amazing performance Philly Rivs!
I only hate that our ownership (the worst in the league) NEVER gave you a chance to win it all. Spanos family is cheap, they don't care about winning, they don't care about their players or fan base. In spite of this, Philly Rivs showed up and balled out.
They are cheap they only get players on discounts- aka after injuries or undrafted players with a good season. They will never go after a top market player
That Chargers organization was so dysfunctional
Bad ownership
Big facts... let a coach go after a 14-2 season...... 🤣😂
That in itself should get him into canton smh
@@Zigoutlaw33 Which has been the case with the Chargers since 1966, when Barron Hilton sold the team to Gene Klein and Sam Schulman, who ran the franchise into the ground in the late 60s and early 70s, and even considered moving it to Seattle.
was???
I think he should’ve come back the colts were good
Please delete this comment. He did nothing for the Colts. We need to go after Deshaun Watson.
@@oscartirado8146 if you think the texans are gonna trade a transcedent qb to within their own division i want whatever youre drinking
@@sophiawilliams8650 Doubt this happens but we've seen crazier from the Texans before. They let the best WR go for a bag of peanuts lmao.
@@oscartirado8146 You colts fans are absolutely absurd- he took you to the post season nearly won a playoff game and “he did nothing for us” literally so ungrateful to your players, also deshaun Watson would Never go to the colts Lol
@@oscartirado8146 you colts fans trashed him all year, you truly did not deserve him. When you go back to being a 7 win team you will be sorry
Watson should go to the Colts. Good O-line, solid defense, and a running game which he really hasn't had in quite some time now
No way the Texans trade him to a div rival. No matter what they get in return it would be a horrible decision.
@@christianbarragan7339 If O'Brien was there, he would've
Watson is too expensive for the colts.
Nope
@@luv2ruck770 they have the 3rd most cap but he’s definitely not going to them
Rivers is right up there with the rest of the gun slingers. To win a Superbowl, you need close to perfection and commitment from the owner, right down to the cleaning service. Rivers always did his job with enthusiasm and excellence.
I think he's done enough.
Damn straight
If you got low standards.
But Eli Manning hasn’t? Everyone wants Rivers in the hall of fame but when it came to Eli “hall of very good” or whatever skip said
@HiiDE But rivers never made it to a super bowl in his entire career? So what does it matter lol
@HiiDE phillip's defense was stacked had castillo phillips merriman antonio cromartie all in their prime he played with eric weddle he had vincent jackson L.T Lorenzo Neal Antonio Gates Eli Manning never had as much offensive talent like Rivers had and Rivers didn't win any championships and Eli did twice rivers had a three headed monster in the backfield he had sproles l.t and michael turner I love rivers his attitude and how he argues with people but you cant compare the 2
Rivers is who made me a charger fan and gave me great memories. All the beat to one of the greats QBs ever. BOLT UP ⚡️
"Im in the hall of shame"-skip LMAO
The first honest thing that Skip said this year 2021
"IM IN THE HALL OF SHAME"
Yes you are.
we not going to act like LT wasnt hurt most of the playoffs game lol Or kaeding missing so many fgs in playoff games especially against the jets
Ironically enough I actually said to someone in school that year that the jets would beat the chargers lol I wasn’t even confident that it would’ve actually happened 🤣🤣🤣
Facts
So you’re saying Phillip hasn’t been good since the jets have been good? That means he’s mediocre at best. Give any average QB 17 years and I bet they have stats like his
@@idohearthatersdgk Average QBs don't play that long...
I couldn’t agree any more with either statement. I am a raider fan. I’ve had the pleasure of watching Philip Rivers grow and be a very great player and in many of his years shred the raiders... I’m not afraid to admit that and I’m not gonna sit here and hate on what he achieved. He’s a damn good qb and played with a chip on him. Congrats on your successful career and enjoy retirement and your family
Of COURSE!🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love Phillip Rivers since the beginning his attitude always been heard great guy deserve to be a Hall of Famer
Philip Rivers has been on some loaded football teams and yet never got to a Super Bowl. Heading into the 2009 postseason, I was convinced that the San Diego Chargers were the best team in all of football. They ended up being one-and-done thanks to the New York Jets, who were just lucky to be there.
For several years they had the most talented roster in the League, but Norv Turner and that organization could never pull it together. I remember when they fired Marty Shottenheimer after going 14-2 in the regular season, but losing to the Patriots in the Divisional Round that it was gonna be rough for a few years.
One problem the Chargers had, and the Rams and even the Raiders had the same problem, was that home field advantage did not truly exist in Southern California, either in San Diego or Los Angeles, mainly because of the weather and the stadiums. There's a reason why all the Chargers' signature post-season wins have been on the road and their most crushing post-season losses have all been at home. A playoff game in San Diego was basically a neutral site game, and the same was true regarding the L.A. Coliseum when the Rams and even the Raiders played there, which made it harder for the Chargers, because they did not have the advantage that a home team normally enjoys for a post-season game.
Done in that playoff game due to two missed moderate field goals by Nate Kaedig.
Finally skip is honest
thank you Philip for all those spectacular plays when they didn't really matter...
------Charlie from San Diego
Charlie from San Diego eats dog doo
@@geraldbalzano431 Philip Rivers is a bum
As a lifelong San Diego fan, I am so grateful for what Phillip Rivers did for us. Man wanted to win more than anyone. He always played with guts and I wouldn't have wanted any other QB for the Chargers. Wish he could have won one but I still think he is one of the best ever.
If Fouts is a hall of famer, Rivers is a hall of famer, enough said.
Love Rivers, dont care hes a HOF’er to me. That man gave it all every damn time. Rivers to Gates is timeless
As a Chargers fan, we had great moments and humbling moments with Phil as our QB. Although Ben and Eli both have 2 rings each, Phil proved he was the better QB from that draft. It's somewhat bittersweet seeing both Drew and Phil retire after this season, and I wish them both well in their future endeavours. But without question Phil belongs in the HOF, he's earned it.
@Amir Khan The numbers don't lie, Phil has the stats in passing yards and TD's needed to make it in the HOF.
Rivers will always be underrated but us real charger fans & real qb fans know the truth rivers is a Hof no doubt about it miss you 17⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Warren Moon is in the hall of fame, Dan Fouts also, they have the same amount of playoff wins , so based on that phillip rivers should be in the hall of fame.
Warren Moon was like that and he went to Canada first stop playing bro
@@michaelpolite3335 I honestly don't understand your comment. Moon, Rivers, and Fouts , basically all had the same career, so I guess throw rivers in there too.
You have to put the man in the hall of fame! 17 years never missed a game! 5th all time come on mannn put him in
Put Rivers in the NFC during his prime & he at least makes it to a super bowl.
Like Giants who actually took him 😂😂🤣
Eli was better. rivers was worst out of the 3 good qbs from his class
No he does not lol.
@@coding9152 Eli didn't hold a candle to Rivers; no contest
@@geraldbalzano431 those rings over the GOAT say otherwise.
phil always had a kind word for
Phillip Rivers is a HOF--the fact that him and Dan Fouts never reached a SB with Chargers and Drew Brees winning one when he left show how ineffective the organization is-I see why Eli Manning refused to play for them
Yet ppl make blasphemous statements like saying Eli shouldn’t be in the HOF despite taking down one of the GREATEST teams in the modern football era and beating Brady 2x with a 4th quarter comeback. Rivers been to the playoffs more than Eli & could never lead his team to at least 1 SB appearance. Some of those teams rivers was on had potential but the playoffs are a different animal
@@Maxmillianr1 Where did I say Eli didn't deserve to make the Hall of Fame?
Rivers is an all time great a true legendary player. He absolutely deserves to be in canton
Very good player ok but "all time" great no. That's like saying Matt Ryam is an all time great. Ryan is a very good player like Rivers but thats about it.
@@glong86 rivers isn't close to Ryan. When drew brees calls you elite you're elite.
@@glong86 Dan marino thinks otherwise as well. He's also an all-time great competitor.
He definitely going into the Chargers Hall of Fame. He will get in, just probably won't be first ballot. His numbers speak for themselves, and isn't Dan Marino in with his zero Superbowl wins?
And Warren Moon is in with 0 and one could easily argue Rivers was better than Moon or Jim Kelly (who's also in with no SBs)
Yeah but Rivers only made 1 championship game.
@@arnuvbatra5781 he was not better than Warren at all. But Phillip is definitely underrated. I’d still take him over Eli even with the two rings
@@Ah-ws9nm agreed you also can't blame the guy for being in a league with Peyton, Tom, and Big Ben. In his 17 seasons in 14 of them, those three guys won the AFC. If he was born 5 years earlier or later he'd def be one and we shouldn't hold that against him.
@@arnuvbatra5781 dude was not better that Warren moon. You tripping
2:53 "I'm not in the Hall of Fame, I'm mostly in the Hall of Shame" lol I like that self-deprecating humor from Skip
Phillip Rivers did as much as he could while he could. I've always like Rivers so no knock on his career
All respect to Philip Rivers on his retirement but if I recalculate, Rivers Drafted 2004.
Super Bowl 39 - Pats vs Eagles (Brady)
Super Bowl 40 - Steelers vs Seahawks (Big Ben)
41 - Colts vs Bears (P. Manning)
42 - Pats vs Giants (Brady and E. Manning)
43 - Steelers vs Cards (Big Ben)
44 - Colts vs Saints (P. Manning)
45 - Steelers vs Packers (Big Ben)
46 - Pats vs Giants (Brady and E. Manning)
47 - the exception, Harbowl, Ravens vs 49ers
48 - Broncos vs Seahawks (P. Manning)
49 - Pats vs Seahawks (Brady)
50 - Broncos vs Panthers (P. Manning)
51 - Pats vs Falcons (Brady)
52 - Pats vs Eagles (Brady)
53 - Pats vs Rams (Brady)
54 - exception 2 Chiefs vs 49ers
55 - Could be Brady if he beats Rodgers.
Shannon was off by one but it's scary still when you look at it. 15 of 17 Super Bowls and it took Flacco beating Brady in 2012 BARELY and a talent like Mahomes to win in 2020. It's nuts.
He's not first ballot but he will be in the hof
How can you say Phil Rivers ain’t a Hall of Famer. His statistics tell the story and absolutely nailed on for the HOF imo.
Unfortunately you can’t pick your organisation or Offensive Line.
you know people say well he hasn’t done this or that or haven’t achieved enough to be in the hof you know how hard it is to even play as long as rivers and be the starter for that long
As a Chargers fan, I wish he didn't tbh. Every year I was hoping that they would go a different direction at QB. Real Chargers fans don't get woo'd by the stats of Phillip Rivers because we know how disappointing he actually is in those clutch situations. So so so many 4th qtr interceptions you could see it coming like time on a clock
I feel bad for Phillip rivers he never went to the superbowl but he was a good qb now he hc at a high school it's great that he can coach kids and pass on what he learned from his dad and begin in the NFL and doing something good for his community.
Aaron Rodgers " I got 1 ring, even the great don't have one" How is it that i'm not a hall of famers but they think they are?
I’ll always be grateful for you as a Colts fan Uncle Phil!
The knock on Philip Rivers was he would throw an int at the wrong time
Sound like stafford for the lions
Reminds me of romo but rivers was more consistent
Sounds like Brees who he learned it from
How many times are you going to comment on this video?
@@9wardsouilja sounds like Brett Favre whom they were all imitating at the worse times....
watching him mic'd up.. he represents what football is all about
Antonio cromartie: In honor of Philip retiring I’m gonna make another baby as a tribute to him. U deserve this Philip.
Hahah
These two have really good takes when they dont have their personal bias... Great discussion.
As a Colts fan, thanks for the memories Phil but this was the right choice for both sides! We need a young QB to take the reigns
Where is ole boy from the Patriots?
@@copedigital Brissett? I think he's still there
@@Saints-ji3vj yes he is in a weird position. Not a franchise QB but better than backup in my opinion
@@copedigital Maybe he can be like Jimmy G. The colts seem to have most of the right pieces they can easily be back kinda like the Saints when i look at it
@cOLTON...AND, not one single INT in his career...amazing...GTFOH...
Shannon you are spot on ..... great insight from a great player and a real person
Bruh there’s a handful of quarterbacks already in the hall of fame who did not come up clutch in the playoffs. Rivers is not only a hall of famer but he’s a first ballot
Based on what? He has passed for a lot yards and had a long career. And that is it. Not even close to an MVP, first choice All Pro etc. Passing leader? TD leader? QBR leader? TD/INT ratio leader? Rivers isn't even close.
so here are the route to the hall of fame just stat padd for 10+ years because MVPs and at least a SB appearance means nothing anymore
@@championthewonderhorse9733 so warren moon and Dan fouts being hall of famers mean nothing then right?
My point is that those two are hall of famers who had very similar careers to rivers, and they are hall of famers
Im so sad. I cant even put it into words, he was and is my favorite player of all time and the sole reason I became a San Diego Chargers fan. Moreso, he was the Chargers. This hits different. Definitely thought he would give it one more shot with the Colts :(
Good stuff Shannon. I agree completely. Football is a team game and a championship depends on the entire team. 21 other players plus backups need to perform at a high level to get to a championship.
True but Rivers is barely in that top 10 class of qb's who didn't win championships.
Philip Rivers is Definitely Hall of Fame Worthy
Gonna miss my fluffin' favorite daddy Philip Rivers dadgummit!
Shannon put rivers in the same era with Brady , manning and Big Ben but forgot brees was in the same era, while complaining about people not giving enough consideration to great players that haven’t won a championship but didn’t include one of the top quarterbacks of the era 🤷🏿♂️. The Brees disrespect is disgusting.
Charges ownership is terrible, could have at least won one Super Bowl
As a die hard Rams fan I will say football will miss Philip Rivers he was simply fun too watch and like unc said he played in an era with great QBs its equivalent to sir Charles playing in the Jordan era, cant blame these greats for not winning a chip. Its extremely hard too win overall let alone in an era of greats. See you around Philip.! Rams4Life!!!
rivers was the best QB in his draft class
Big Ben
Without a Question. He's definitely in
PR has the same career as Warren Moon. Great stats, long career but PR went to one AFC champ game, Moon didn't. PR will eventually get in the HOF.
Hard for Rivers to have won a ring when he was competing against the GOAT Brady
And Peyton Manning’s Colts AND The Steelers
Damn he was in the AFC at THEE ABSOLUTE WORSE TIME good lord 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Skip for shoe-horning Brady in again.
@@championthewonderhorse9733 nobody is shoe horning anything fool the same can be said about Jordan and the NBA
@@daevonthesavage7483 yeah them too it was a terrible time to have joined lol
@@daevonthesavage7483 Don't forget the ravens with ray lewis and ed reed.
Normally I wouldn't give Skip and Shannon a second of my time but on this occasion I have to agree with them that Phillip is one of the best that ever played the game. He played the game well, didn't politicize the game, he didn't disgrace himself or the game.
SB’s don’t make you a great player, that’s a team achievement in a team sport, does anyone actually think Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Philip Rivers? Or Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino? Or Trent Dilfer is better than even Matt Ryan?
SBs matter. But they aren't everything.
@@Abbad1579 Never said they don't matter but media and low information fans think that's all that matters.
Skip messed with Shannon. Shannon said Rivers should be in the hall, then Skip said basically you have to say that because a hall of fame player trashing a ballot would be bad. Then Shannon went on to state why he shouldn’t get in. I’m sorry but Phillip Rivers deserves the hall of fame. Besides his accolades one huge thing in football is being able to play on Sunday. No QB has come to work more consecutive days than Rivers. Let him in.
If Eli goes then Rivers definitely should
Eli won two rings
@@LanceG007 and? He’s not a better QB than rivers so what’s your point?
Shannon made a great point. If every great player won a championship, then championships wouldn't be as special
He lost at least 4 years because of his kicker. It’s part of the game but Brady doesn’t win 3 Super Bowls without his kicker.
This comment is way to far down in the comments. It’s the truth. 100 percent.
Philip Rivers is a hall of famer.
3:10 I honestly haven’t agreed with skip anymore in my life, the perfect description of rivers career
Rivers belongs in the Hall. Come on!
Sweeping the Hall for real greats
Rivers belongs in the hof. Probably not first ballot. But the "transcendent talent" skip is talking about describes first ballot hofs. Rivers easily will make it in as a 2nd or 3rd ballot. Plus rings are more of a team thing rather than a player thing
The way i see it is if Rivers cant get in because he never won, then Eli cant get in because he was mostly average or very lousy, but had two very good defenses both times he won. Big Ben has pretty good career numbers and won twice as well, he deserves his ticket to canton. If Eli gets in, Rivers has to get in as well.
I mean Dan Marino, Jim Kelly who are hofs have no rings
Yea but those 2 were superior QBs to Rivers. But Rivers is a HOFer still........just not 1st ballot or 2nd ballot or 3rd ballot........he will get in eventually.
Dan Marino and Jim Kelly have been to Super Bowls.
They been to SBs and were all pros.
As a colts fan I can say that he is one of my favorite QBs I'm honored that I got to watch him play the game
A Rivers runs through to the Hall
Philip rivers is my fav all time
Lowkey Phillip was the Damian Lillard of his era
No he’s not are you delusional, Dame is gonna be in the Hall of Fame Philip ain’t gonna be in there, Dame still can win some rings
@@karanpunj6888 You're joking right? Dame ain't getting past GS or LAL. Not to mention that the BBall HOF is MUCH easier to get in than the Pro Football HOF. Dame will get in based on his play, but he's not winning any rings unless he joins a super team. Rivers = Dame is a decent comparison.
@@DingoDIDeatmybaby bro are you high Gsw might not make the playoffs this year, this is Lebron’s last chance to win another ring Dame could just demand a trade if he wants. Philip Rivers was never as good at football as dame is a basketball
Dame is on another level he’s a superstar
@@karanpunj6888 Phillip is a HOF QB y’all wild
Top 5 All Time in Yards ,TD and Completions hes definitely a HOF
Shannon: Tom Brady kept alot of players from winning just like Jordan...
Never Eli Manning tho 😏
Nick and Eli sees that fairy tail differently.
Respect to Phillip. Really good career.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Eli played in the same era, has the same amount of rings as two of those QBs and beat the GOAT 2wice in the SB. O he also beat Brett and Aaron 2wice in Lambo. If Rivers is a hall of famer so is Eli, stop throwing shade on my guy.
"Those players been to 14 super bowls for the afc" what he meant was Tom went to the SB 9 times in the time Rivers was in the NFL
😂😂😂
true, and it should 15 not 14. brady = 6-3, manning = 2-1, roethlisberger = 2-1
Manning played in 4, 2 in Indy 2 in Denver, Ben got 3, and Brady only had 7 in rivers career the first two were before him that’s 14
@@god2121 oh snap, you right my G. i forgot rivers came a few years after brady lol