Time Markers: 0:00 - PodMic Overview 1:00 - Shure SM58 & SM57 1:42 - Testing All Mics Without Processing 5:15 - Wind Test 5:38 - Which Mic is Best? 6:30 - Which is MY Favorite? 7:32 - PodMic vs. SM58 9:40 - Testing All Mics WITH Processing 11:18 - More Podcasting Gear!
I saw the interface you use. Are you using anything else? I find that the output of the SM58 using an audio interface is kind of low. Wondering if you are using an inline pre-amp or something else.
The only difference is the windscreen. The president uses them because the 57's locking windscreen looks better than the 58 with an added windscreen. Other good options (for a bit more money) are the shure beta 56a drum mic, beta 57a instrument mic, and beta 58a vocal mic, which are all the same guts. 56 and 57 have the same grille with minimal screen, while the 58 has virtually the same grille as the sm58. I actually sing live into a beta 56a drum mic because it can't get by a passerby and soundmen won't think its theirs and steal my mic during teardown. (edited to remove a typo)
@@tombuck the only major difference is the frequency response that is more flat on the 57, thats why you'll hear more highs on it. and since the 57 and 7b capsules are also almost the same, u can make the 57 sound *identical* as its brother that costs like 300 bucks more. + on an 57 u dont need an cloud lifter, on the 7b you'll pretty much need one
57's are an absolute workhorse. There's almost nothing you can't do with them. I "upgraded" to a podmic from my 57 and I'm selling the PM for another 57.
Great video.! This helped me to get lots of information between SM58 and Podmic. I really like the quality of the video. Great lighting and colors. Very pleasant to see.
Exactly, the 58 is the best. The proximity effect makes the perfect eq at the source. The transformer is wound to pick up more lows than the 57 and the highs are smoother due to the grill. Take the grill off and you have a 57 with more lows. The 58 is more versatile because the 57 grill is not removable and is woven tighter to control spl from instruments. So... no, the 57 is not "just as good" just because that's the one you own.
Thanks for this one. I have been using the 58 on my channel...but Ive been considering switching to the rode mic. They both sound good...but being able to use the 58 without a stand is a pretty big benefit that I didn’t think about. 👍🏻👍🏻
If you want a budget sm7b, throw the a55 shock mount and the a81 windscreen on an SM57. Put a fethead on it to warm up the tone if you want to get even closer.
Tom i am amazed by your attention to detail 👏 thanks for sharing your knowledge with wit and humor yet staying on topic and condensing the core message. Love watching your videos and you inspired me to start a vidoe podcast. Keep posting the good stuff 🙏
@@tombuck thanks 🙏 maybe one day we will collaborate 😃 did you ever make a video about your video gear and process? Would love to watch it... If not please make one for the novice 🙏
Hi, what about the shure beta58a? I know it's over 100usd but I think it sounds a little bit better than the sm58 and I love it for podcast, specially for my interviewees. I record everything on the tascam dr-60 to have a quick setup to travel. to go to people offices and to use it on camera with a tascam dr10x. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for putting this together Tom! We use the SM58's with our unit but it's a new purchase so still dialing things in - what do you find yourself setting gain at (on average) for your uses with the SM58?
Thanks for the overview! i really feel like the podmic is better with a windscreen and if you work the mic a lot closer... it really comes alive at close distances
Hi, I want to record my written poetry professionally. Suggest me a good audio interface and microphone. But my room is not sound proof. The sound from outside comes inside our room. If I use Audio Technica 2035 mic and Shuru SM 58, then what will be the difference between the two? And which audio interface would be better for ShureSM 58. In which there is no noise and the quality is also good at the time of recording.
Honestly, a solid USB mic might be the way to go. The Sennheiser Profile is my favorite recommendation. Then you don't need an interface or anything like that.
As a DJ, my go to is a 58 and I think it sounds great as a podcast mic as well. I noticed myself falling into a trap of falling for the hype of the rode, which is awesome, but I already own the 58. You helped me feel better about sticking with a 58 and saved me $100!!!
The Podmic has a really great look and nice hefty build quality that is very appealing. The SM57 doesn't have the screen appeal, but with the A2WS locking windscreen it looks camera ready and the sound is really hard to beat. The SM57 was my first podcasting mic. As a newcomer to mics I bought and tried a bunch of different dynamic and condenser mics, and while there are many very nice looking products out there - most of which sound quite good - I just keep coming back to the SM57 for the audio quality it delivers. I put podcast interview guests on a condenser with a pop filter in front of it because they don't always speak right into the mic or have good mic discipline and technique. Right now I'm very happy with the Neat Worker Bee II for my guests. In a treated room I might switch to the King Bee II myself, but for my current space a dynamic mic like the SM57 works best.
@@tombuck Ended up choosing the Podmic. I like the look of the mic and hearing the sounds you can get with some fine tuning in your video comparing it to the SM7B pushed me there. Great bang for the buck!!
I’ve always recorded my published rap and r&b songs with condenser mics (like the mxl 770) and I’ve been doing asmr and podcasting lately. My M-Box mini was made in 2005 and is still ticking but the preamps seem weak. I tried the M-Audio Air 192 and the software/drivers are horrid. So I’m glad you reviewed the Scarlet 2i2. I’m enjoying your videos about mics because I just always assumed that the classically shaped 58 mics were for live singers and not studio vocals. So, thanks. I’ve been binge watching your channel as much as the Omeleto channel, lol.
This is a solid video and basically the conclusions I've came to after a few days of research. For guitarists/musicians, a SM57 is worth having as you can double as an instrument mic, but I agree for podcast/voice-over specific people, the Podmic or SM58 is the way to go.
SM58 sounds soooo GREAT!! Thank you for doing this!! What are your settings on the RODE caster? Your BASS is so smooooth Wound up listening to this entire video Thanks 4 sharing!! CoachDeb
For streaming I've been using SM58's from being in a band 10 years ago...still work fantastic. Glad this confirmed I didn't need to go out and buy some mics designed for podcasting. You're right on the versatility as well. I can go from speaking at my desk to singing karaoke in the middle of the house with no issues.
I'm stunned by the price of the SM58. The last time I bought one was almost 30 years ago. It was between $80 and $100 back then, so with the rate of inflation I'm surprised it's not going for at least $125 to $150 today.
If you want an sm7b, get sm57 and EQ it. Everyone knows they have similar frequencies (flat). The sm58 however does not have the correct frequency to imitate the sm7b, but even with headphones I can't tell the difference between the sm57 and sm7b when the sm57 is EQ'd correctly. You can find videos on the EQ settings within UA-cam.
They all sound very similar! But it seems like the difference is in the low end. In this order: 57/58/pod mic of most robust low end. I was wondering if that was because of the angle in which you were speaking into the mic?
I don’t think the angle has much to do with it, but your ordering makes sense. The 57 has the least amount of pop filtering, the 58 has a bit more, and the PodMic is somewhat notoriously lacking on the low end. 👍
I'm in the minority that I think I prefer the PodMic. It doesn't have that deep broadcaster thing that I kinda think has gone out of style with most youtubers using a lav or a shotgun mic and I also find that the proximity effect of both the 57 and the 58 to be more obvious. This becomes an issue when the talent gets closer and further from the mic. The PodMic seems more balanced and neutral. And you can add a bid of low mids if you want that type of sound. Thanks for doing this.
You’re welcome! I love the PodMic, and and very happy with my 2. It’s important to remember that this comparison has no post processing, and it is ossicle to tune the mic to suit your preference/voice.
I’m glad someone else also left this comment. I don’t like the boomy effect of the SM7B or at least the way most people eq it. I find the extreme bottom end grating and fatiguing.
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Saw someone review it have have something like a Rode whatever videomic Pro or something and yeah the stuff he used for video sounded very nice.
kenny gioia Your not alone!, I’ve been using a pair of Podmics into my Rodecaster Pro since they came out, fantastic quality, I used to use SM58s into a mixing desk in an untreated garden shed (true story) these Podmics are way better for similar money, I’d recommend them to anyone as they are very forgiving.
The sound of the SMs is supreme but having one already I picked the podmics for a podcast! Giving hut a bit of my audiophile quality for good broadcasting looks
Great video, cheers. Can the Shure SN58 be used on a boom as a two mic set up with two talents or does it need to be in close proximity with the speaker's mouth? Thanks in advance.
As a dynamic mic, it's definitely meant to be close to the speaker for best results. Take a look at something like the Rode NTG2 shotgun mic (or similar shotgun options) if you want to pick up sound from a bit of a distance.
I know this is an old video. The podmic looks really cool. The SM58 with whatever windscreen you used was great. The SM57 with the A81WS windscreen is also pretty sweet.
@@tombuck I'm pretty sure because your videos are the cause lol they need to sponsor you 😘 btw when I take the mini sd card out do I have to use any other app or site to get the recordings?
Bro, thanks a lot for this video. Im about to start a podcast and right know im about to buy the equipment, and as im going to buy the rode casterpro, i wanted to buy 2 rode podmic, but it turns out that I already have one shure sm58 in the house (didnt know), so, im just gonna buy one shure sm48, and i'll start with those, I need two mic's because im interviewing people. Regards from México!
So you seem to love the 58; but you have 2 Rode PodMics. Just got my Podmic and love it! This was a great review. The SM7 intrigues me but as you said, you can have 4 Rode Podmics or 2 Podmics and a 58 and a 57! Again great review
I'm going to agree... the 58 sounds the best especially with the windscreen. Makes me wonder what the Rode would sound like with an outer windscreen. That PodMic preset makes the Rode sound a lot more like the SM7b.
Hi Tom, thanks for this video! Do you find the Rode PodMic to have decent gain on its own when you use it with the Rodecaster Pro? Or should the PodMic be used with a Cloudlifter or Fethead? I've read several reviews on Amazon saying the PodMic is too quiet and really benefits from using an amplifier. I'm wondering what your experience is, thank you!
It would definitely benefit from a boost of some kind, but I don’t personally use one just because I like to keep my setup as simple as possible and didn’t want another thing to plug in and deal with.
My microphones of choice are the Shure 55SH and Shure SM58 for stadium announcing for football and SM58 arena announcing for volleyball and basketball...I use the Shure 55SH for auditorium emceeing and vocals.
Hi there Tom. Hope all safe and well on either side of blue wall. Can I thank you so much for your fantastic tutorial videos. They have been tremendous help. This morning got possession of the pod mic for my rodecaster pro. Had been using a Shure SM58 and no problem. However now I have a hum when I plug in my headphones to front socket. It registers on the levels but I don't want to use Noise Gate. I have set my mic to pod mic setting. Could it be the cheap headphones I am using or would changing to headphone socket at rear make a difference at all. Thanks in advance. John
Congrats on the new gear! There shouldn't be a different between the front and rear headphone outputs, but the Rodeacaster's headphone preamps are always a bit noisy (although you said this is registering on the levels meter). I wold start be replacing headphones/cables to see if you find the culprit there.
I recently bought the SM48 and I bought an XLR to USB connector so I could connect it to my MacBook and inserted my headphones into my mac and wanted to record my podcast on QuickTime, but I can't hear myself like I would if I was recording on a blue yeti. Is there any way to fix this. I tried changing the output settings to my headphones but I always hear the delay. Thanks
Of the three, on spoken word I think I prefer the SM58. Both Shures sound good and sound better to me than the Podmic but I think I like the SM58 just a little bit more. Many companies have tried to make their own replacement for the SM58 and some of them are good for certain situations but to me the smooth sound of the SM58 still sounds the best.
The 58 really is just about the most versatile mic there is. I agree that, even though they can sound great in their own way, none of the similar versions are quite the same.
I really like the PodMic when you aren't directly on it. Its very harsh when too close. When you back off even just a few inches, it sounds perfect. I am not a sound engineer or audio expert, just what I've noticed. At 1:40 for example.
I just got my Forecasted Pro! Having fun using learning to use it well. You should check out the Behringer XM8500. $23 and it's really close to the SM58. I've used them for open mics and field podcasts. It's the best budget mic I've ever used.
Dude! For $100 that quality is a steal. I've been using some Sennheisers for my current setup but run rode for all my camera mics. Might have to grab one too!
Man your sennheiser sounds so much better tho. It's sounds like how a mic would sound inbetween the SM58 and the SM7b. Not too sharp like SM58 but not too smooth/boring like the SM7b. Very pleasing to the ear.
A lot of mic selection really does come down to individual voice/preference. It's hard to make objective statements that are truly accurate. The SM57 is an outstanding mic.
I was looking for a comparison video, lol and behold, you have one! Me again and yes I found that the sm58 sounds better in a long be setting. So I think I won't upgrade to the podmic cuz it doesn't seem like an upgrade. Perhaps a procaster in the future. I do have a sure super 55 which I love as well but it's really pricey and I wanted one for the look being am old school Elvis and rockabilly fan
Very few things can top the "cool factor" of the Super 55. But yeah, the 58 is incredibly versatile. I've always thought of it as kind of like a Fender Strat. If you ask someone who knows nothing about guitars to imagine a guitar, they'll probably think of a Strat. If you ask someone who knows nothing about microphones to imagine a mic, they'll probably think of the SM58.
Rode is good when speak fixed distance, it is quite sensitive when speak different positions. SM58 sounds in this test really nice, but not in all settings. I think Rode podmic might get some help from wind filter. I have many of Rode podmics and not yet find decent wind filter, only couple really large.
I bought an SM57 for voice. It sounds fairly similar to the SM7B and it looks a lot better on camera with the wind screen than the 58 (which matters to some people).
So you have just created a big problem for me and that is when it came down to the sm58 and the rode podmic I felt they sounded the same and was set on getting the podmic just for looks. Unfortunately I know am I only wondering how the podmic would sound with a pop filter because when you put the pop on the sm58 it sounds much better but if the rode can sound like that with the filter I want the rode.
Tricky decision for sure. The PodMic has a built in pop filter, but I think it’s a tad weak. Some bigger filters, like ones for the SM7B will fit on it, but I don’t have one. The SM58 is more versatile, but the PodMic works treat and is more visually appealing (which might matter in some circumstances). I personally own two PodMics and am very happy with them.
Hey, i have a question: is it possible to use the rode psa1 with the shure sm58 ? I was thinking of buying the psa1 but i don't know if i can use my sm58 on it
Do you recommend having two different branded mics when having 2-3 guests using the Rodecaster Pro? Im getting mixed reviews on whether this is vital or not. I'm still pretty brand new and not too tech savy. Also- do you have any tips regarding how to export recording into Garageband to tidy up with small edits? Sorry! Lots of questions! Your channel has helped me tremendously so far :)
Hi Cassie! As far as mics go, I would just use whatever you have to get started. I think common advice is to match mics whenever possible, but you can always play with the settings to make different mics sound good together. Start simple and upgrade as necessary. For GarageBand, you should be able to drag the file directly from the memory card into a new project. If you’re recording with multi track, then all of the separate tracks should show up.
planning on getting a sm58 but am concerned about the infamous low output volume issue when speaking into it or recording vocals. heard it’s a reallyy quiet mic. which audio interface would u recommend to pair it with the sm58? am on a budget though!
The 58 is a pretty decent mic without a booster. The SM7B is the truly quiet one. Chances are just about any interface will give you workable levels with the 58. If not, you can add an affordable booster like the Klark Teknik CT-1 and be all set 👍
@@tombuck Sorry if it's a dumb question because I'm really new but is the booster essentially the same as a mic preamp? Also, thank you for the recommendation, really appreciate the help!
I'm gonna be honest the SM57 sounds better than all of them. Kinda a bit more clear compared to the others too. And the PodMic has like a robot noise i can hear. I think the Shure SM58 sounds pretty great although I thought your voice sounded better on the SM57. To bad I don't know what beatboxing would sound like on the SM57 lol.
I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2. Will it have enough gain with the Podmic without any extra gear? If not, can you recommend a similar mic that doesn't need any additional pre-amp apart from my Scarlett?
you can actually go even cheaper than all these, with a Shure SM48. costs about $40.. sound just like the SM58/57 and i think its sounds as good or better than the podmic (the podmic does sound good tho). Currently using an SM48 with an MG10XU mixer..
What’s up with its build? It’s one of the most durable out there. If you mean you don’t like its appearance, put a pop filter that looks good to you in front.
If you have access to music stores that lease microphones do a shootout, it’s fun and hopefully you’ll find what you’re looking for. I was surprised when I did it.
Hey quick question if you still check here. I'm in the market for a dynamic xlr mic under $200 just for streaming/games by chance would you be able to give me a couple recommendations? Initially I was hard set on a sm58/beta 58a but now I'm coming across a few other options such as the Rode PodMic. Thanks and great vid!
@@tombuck Oh wow that was a quick response. If supply was not an issue where do you think you'd land based on your experience/impression? Thanks for the reply, much appreciated! Edit: or even something else in that range?
The podmic sounds thin as compared to sm57 and 58 but that is because it's eq'ed in such a way that you don't have to later on. the sm58 and 57 sound a bit muddy so you will need to clean them up with an eq. So I think for podcast podmic wins. In case if somebody is a singer or guitarist as well as a youtube podcaster than sm57 and 58 will be better I think.
I like the sm57 the most. it seems to be very balanced without eq in low and high end. I think the sm58 sounds great to but there's just something about it that I don't like and I can't figure out for the life of me what it is.
Finally someone said it so I didnt have to. Been looking for this type of comment. I think it's the Hollow Metal Capsule sounding tone heavy in the mids, that's how I describe it.
You can do quite a bit with most decent mics though EQ, but of these the 58 is probably the most versatile. If your budget allows it, you might want to consider checking out an RE20.
You nailed it with a great topic. Unfortunately no matter how awesome the 2 Sure mics sound unexpected plosives did occur. My $ purchase decision will go to the Rode. It was a flatter sound but didn't show plosives. Well worth the $100 without purchasing pop filters.
This ridiculous. You sound just like photographer/youtuber Sean Tuck, except he has a British accent. Even your names sound similar haha. That said: I appreciate the videos man! I was looking for a mic to conduct/record phone interviews without breaking the bank, and wasn't prepared for the market/jungle I was about to get completely lost in. This vid helped me decide to get the SM58. Thanks!
I keep looking for evidence of a $100-something dynamic that holds a candle to the SM7B, and I can't find it. In the meantime, an SM57 with A81WS windscreen and a bit of EQ is better than okay. Nice review thanks.
For it was the PodMic i got for myself, because I'm looking forward to livestream in the near future and then the looks of the microfone are pretty important, because the viewers can see the mic all the time
Greetings! Would the Shure SM57 and SM58 be suited well for ENG situations or are they only good for podcasting and live vocals? Also do you know if they would work with the tascam DR-10x and the Zoom h4n? Thanks!
The 58 is one of the most popular "reporter" mics in the world- it'll definitely do the job. So can the 57 with a good windscreen. I haven't used the Tascam, but I've had my H4n for many years and they definitely work. 👍
@@tombuck I also have one more question and it’s fine if you are unable to answer this. Do you believe these mics would be compatible with rycote mic flags and the rode news shooter kit?
I haven't done a direct comparison myself, but the biggest difference would be USB vs. XLR. USB is simpler , but XLR allows for more options/expandability.
which of the mics is best for loud environments? My current microphone picks up so much that happens in the background, loud family members, AC, etc...
@@tombuck interesting. I was planning on the Rode mic but because they've been selling out so quickly I haven't been able to. I'm glad because now I'll probably go with the sm58. Thanks!
@@tombuck thank you. What bothers is me that you have to give this mic a lot of gain through the sound card. Hoping to learn from you how one can tackle this.
I have the SM58 and im brand new to twitch streaming and UA-cam but my recordings end up way worse quality wise im not sure whats wrong I use obs as my recording app
@@tombuck I use the behringer U-Phonia UM2. I'm thinking it might be the settings on obs though because when i recorded videos using audacity it sounded fine
Time Markers:
0:00 - PodMic Overview
1:00 - Shure SM58 & SM57
1:42 - Testing All Mics Without Processing
5:15 - Wind Test
5:38 - Which Mic is Best?
6:30 - Which is MY Favorite?
7:32 - PodMic vs. SM58
9:40 - Testing All Mics WITH Processing
11:18 - More Podcasting Gear!
I saw the interface you use. Are you using anything else? I find that the output of the SM58 using an audio interface is kind of low. Wondering if you are using an inline pre-amp or something else.
Nothing extra- just the mic straight into the Rodecaster. 👍
@@tombuck Gotcha. Sounds very. Would you get similar sound on a live stream?
@@tombuck Great! Yeah, I can set this up as audio input. Sounds great with the SM58.
beta 58a please
The sm57 with the pop filter looks very professional, I love it
Me too! Something about it creates a really fun design.
The SM57 is internally identical to the SM58. In fact the SM57 is the official vocal mic for the President Of The United States.
I knew the White House has used them for years, and always found that super interesting. So I guess the only difference is the pop filter?
@@tombuck Correct. The internal electronics are identical. The only difference is the integral windscreen.
The only difference is the windscreen. The president uses them because the 57's locking windscreen looks better than the 58 with an added windscreen. Other good options (for a bit more money) are the shure beta 56a drum mic, beta 57a instrument mic, and beta 58a vocal mic, which are all the same guts. 56 and 57 have the same grille with minimal screen, while the 58 has virtually the same grille as the sm58. I actually sing live into a beta 56a drum mic because it can't get by a passerby and soundmen won't think its theirs and steal my mic during teardown.
(edited to remove a typo)
@@tombuck the only major difference is the frequency response that is more flat on the 57, thats why you'll hear more highs on it. and since the 57 and 7b capsules are also almost the same, u can make the 57 sound *identical* as its brother that costs like 300 bucks more. + on an 57 u dont need an cloud lifter, on the 7b you'll pretty much need one
Tech Gadget Reviews i‘d get the sm57 with a windscreen, it won’t disappoint you
57's are an absolute workhorse. There's almost nothing you can't do with them. I "upgraded" to a podmic from my 57 and I'm selling the PM for another 57.
It is a really tough mic to beat. Definitely a reason it has the reputation it does.
Great video.! This helped me to get lots of information between SM58 and Podmic. I really like the quality of the video. Great lighting and colors. Very pleasant to see.
Unbelievably helpful. Totally made it easy. Love that you did right out of box which I’m looking to do b/c I also love simplicity. Thank you so much.
You are so welcome!
I enjoy your reviews Tom. I really like the SM58 too
Super helpful! Love your clear and calm style of reviewing + your personal approach to it! Jesse
Thanks Jesse!
This video helped me make a decision finally to go with SM58 as my first setup after a couple hours of research! Thanks so much!
Great mic- you'll love it!
Try beta 58 too
Which audio interface do you use with the SM58, if I may ask?
love your v logs. I purchased pod mic last year.
Great review. In Studio with processing to my ears Pod Mic is nice and clean. SM57 very muddy and the SM58 would be a great choice for on the road.
SM58 hands down. cant beat the classic vintage SM58..
57 is just as good
Exactly, the 58 is the best. The proximity effect makes the perfect eq at the source. The transformer is wound to pick up more lows than the 57 and the highs are smoother due to the grill. Take the grill off and you have a 57 with more lows. The 58 is more versatile because the 57 grill is not removable and is woven tighter to control spl from instruments. So... no, the 57 is not "just as good" just because that's the one you own.
Thanks for this one. I have been using the 58 on my channel...but Ive been considering switching to the rode mic.
They both sound good...but being able to use the 58 without a stand is a pretty big benefit that I didn’t think about. 👍🏻👍🏻
All sound GREAT! I use a SM58 for my vid recording on iPhone utilizing the iRig PRE HD. THANKS for the very informative comparison vid!!! :)
You’re super welcome 👍
Great demo thank you!
You’re welcome!
If you want a budget sm7b, throw the a55 shock mount and the a81 windscreen on an SM57. Put a fethead on it to warm up the tone if you want to get even closer.
Very helpful review. Thanks, Tom.
Glad it was helpful! Hopefully you can find the mic that's right for you.
Tom i am amazed by your attention to detail 👏 thanks for sharing your knowledge with wit and humor yet staying on topic and condensing the core message. Love watching your videos and you inspired me to start a vidoe podcast. Keep posting the good stuff 🙏
Wow! Thank you so much for the kind words, and best of luck on your new podcast! How awesome 🙌🏼
@@tombuck thanks 🙏 maybe one day we will collaborate 😃 did you ever make a video about your video gear and process? Would love to watch it... If not please make one for the novice 🙏
My 10,000 subscriber video has a behind the scenes of my personal process, and I also made a studio/gear tour video several weeks ago 👍
Hi, what about the shure beta58a? I know it's over 100usd but I think it sounds a little bit better than the sm58 and I love it for podcast, specially for my interviewees. I record everything on the tascam dr-60 to have a quick setup to travel. to go to people offices and to use it on camera with a tascam dr10x. Thanks for the video!
I haven’t used it personally, but it sounds like a winner (pun intended).
Thanks for putting this together Tom! We use the SM58's with our unit but it's a new purchase so still dialing things in - what do you find yourself setting gain at (on average) for your uses with the SM58?
With the Rodecaster, I’ve had the gain set to 35 👍
SM57 has been official mix of POTUS since it’s introduction I believe, so I think it’s definitely a vocal mic as well
Thanks for the overview! i really feel like the podmic is better with a windscreen and if you work the mic a lot closer... it really comes alive at close distances
no its sucks , i have it , go to the shure
Hi, I want to record my written poetry professionally. Suggest me a good audio interface and microphone. But my room is not sound proof. The sound from outside comes inside our room. If I use Audio Technica 2035 mic and Shuru SM 58, then what will be the difference between the two? And which audio interface would be better for ShureSM 58. In which there is no noise and the quality is also good at the time of recording.
Honestly, a solid USB mic might be the way to go. The Sennheiser Profile is my favorite recommendation. Then you don't need an interface or anything like that.
As a DJ, my go to is a 58 and I think it sounds great as a podcast mic as well. I noticed myself falling into a trap of falling for the hype of the rode, which is awesome, but I already own the 58. You helped me feel better about sticking with a 58 and saved me $100!!!
The 58 is just so so good. 😎
The Enthusiasm Project nice to see people engaging with their audience. Makes you an actual human! Keep up the awesome content!
Thanks for this! I'm looking to up my audio game with an XLR option. Appreciate the vid.
Glad it helped! Good luck with the audio game 😬
@@tombuck Thanks! Not easy... Look forward to the next vids!
@@mrsymonds relatable
I have an SE V7 that sounds really good for a podcast vocal scenario.
The Podmic has a really great look and nice hefty build quality that is very appealing. The SM57 doesn't have the screen appeal, but with the A2WS locking windscreen it looks camera ready and the sound is really hard to beat.
The SM57 was my first podcasting mic. As a newcomer to mics I bought and tried a bunch of different dynamic and condenser mics, and while there are many very nice looking products out there - most of which sound quite good - I just keep coming back to the SM57 for the audio quality it delivers.
I put podcast interview guests on a condenser with a pop filter in front of it because they don't always speak right into the mic or have good mic discipline and technique. Right now I'm very happy with the Neat Worker Bee II for my guests. In a treated room I might switch to the King Bee II myself, but for my current space a dynamic mic like the SM57 works best.
I wish the PodMic has the 57's sound 🤤
Loved the video, it really helped me make my decision!!
Awesome. What did you go with?
@@tombuck Ended up choosing the Podmic. I like the look of the mic and hearing the sounds you can get with some fine tuning in your video comparing it to the SM7B pushed me there. Great bang for the buck!!
I’ve always recorded my published rap and r&b songs with condenser mics (like the mxl 770) and I’ve been doing asmr and podcasting lately. My M-Box mini was made in 2005 and is still ticking but the preamps seem weak. I tried the M-Audio Air 192 and the software/drivers are horrid. So I’m glad you reviewed the Scarlet 2i2.
I’m enjoying your videos about mics because I just always assumed that the classically shaped 58 mics were for live singers and not studio vocals. So, thanks. I’ve been binge watching your channel as much as the Omeleto channel, lol.
Wow thank you! And I thought the same thing: that mics like the SM58 were somehow only for stage, but they definitely work in a studio situation.
This is a solid video and basically the conclusions I've came to after a few days of research. For guitarists/musicians, a SM57 is worth having as you can double as an instrument mic, but I agree for podcast/voice-over specific people, the Podmic or SM58 is the way to go.
I'm glad we're on the same page! It makes me feel slightly less crazy.
...unless it just means we're both crazy people 🤔
SM58 sounds soooo GREAT!!
Thank you for doing this!!
What are your settings on the RODE caster?
Your BASS is so smooooth
Wound up listening to this entire video
Thanks 4 sharing!!
CoachDeb
Thank you! for this video, everything was set to default. But there's a new firmware update that really lets you dial in every part of the sound!
This is an awesome video. Price vs value my winner is sm58. Thank you for the Vid.
That SM7b with a killer preamp is my dream date...
For streaming I've been using SM58's from being in a band 10 years ago...still work fantastic. Glad this confirmed I didn't need to go out and buy some mics designed for podcasting. You're right on the versatility as well. I can go from speaking at my desk to singing karaoke in the middle of the house with no issues.
I don’t k ow any mic that can compete with the overall versatility of the 58. It’s so good!
I'm stunned by the price of the SM58. The last time I bought one was almost 30 years ago. It was between $80 and $100 back then, so with the rate of inflation I'm surprised it's not going for at least $125 to $150 today.
If you want an sm7b, get sm57 and EQ it.
Everyone knows they have similar frequencies (flat). The sm58 however does not have the correct frequency to imitate the sm7b, but even with headphones I can't tell the difference between the sm57 and sm7b when the sm57 is EQ'd correctly. You can find videos on the EQ settings within UA-cam.
Great video. What software do you use to record your videos?
Funny this showed up in my recommended today. I just bought the 58 for that same reason...PODmic back ordered forever.
The 58 is dang good. 😎
Lol...yeah, the PodMic sell out pretty fast
They all sound very similar! But it seems like the difference is in the low end. In this order: 57/58/pod mic of most robust low end. I was wondering if that was because of the angle in which you were speaking into the mic?
I don’t think the angle has much to do with it, but your ordering makes sense. The 57 has the least amount of pop filtering, the 58 has a bit more, and the PodMic is somewhat notoriously lacking on the low end. 👍
Much better than expected.
I'm in the minority that I think I prefer the PodMic. It doesn't have that deep broadcaster thing that I kinda think has gone out of style with most youtubers using a lav or a shotgun mic and I also find that the proximity effect of both the 57 and the 58 to be more obvious. This becomes an issue when the talent gets closer and further from the mic. The PodMic seems more balanced and neutral. And you can add a bid of low mids if you want that type of sound. Thanks for doing this.
You’re welcome! I love the PodMic, and and very happy with my 2. It’s important to remember that this comparison has no post processing, and it is ossicle to tune the mic to suit your preference/voice.
I’m glad someone else also left this comment. I don’t like the boomy effect of the SM7B or at least the way most people eq it. I find the extreme bottom end grating and fatiguing.
Saw someone review it have have something like a Rode whatever videomic Pro or something and yeah the stuff he used for video sounded very nice.
kenny gioia Your not alone!, I’ve been using a pair of Podmics into my Rodecaster Pro since they came out, fantastic quality, I used to use SM58s into a mixing desk in an untreated garden shed (true story) these Podmics are way better for similar money, I’d recommend them to anyone as they are very forgiving.
The sound of the SMs is supreme but having one already I picked the podmics for a podcast! Giving hut a bit of my audiophile quality for good broadcasting looks
Great video, cheers. Can the Shure SN58 be used on a boom as a two mic set up with two talents or does it need to be in close proximity with the speaker's mouth? Thanks in advance.
As a dynamic mic, it's definitely meant to be close to the speaker for best results. Take a look at something like the Rode NTG2 shotgun mic (or similar shotgun options) if you want to pick up sound from a bit of a distance.
I know this is an old video. The podmic looks really cool. The SM58 with whatever windscreen you used was great. The SM57 with the A81WS windscreen is also pretty sweet.
I absolutely love the podmic and it's so affordable! I purchased 1 and it was on backorder for almost 3months LOL so I'll be ordering 3 more 👌👌👌👌
Me too! My first one took two months, then I ordered a second in May that arrived in November 😬
@@tombuck I'm pretty sure because your videos are the cause lol they need to sponsor you 😘 btw when I take the mini sd card out do I have to use any other app or site to get the recordings?
Once you put the card in your computer you can just open it, and all the podcast recordings should be right there.
@@tombuck awesomee
Bro, thanks a lot for this video. Im about to start a podcast and right know im about to buy the equipment, and as im going to buy the rode casterpro, i wanted to buy 2 rode podmic, but it turns out that I already have one shure sm58 in the house (didnt know), so, im just gonna buy one shure sm48, and i'll start with those, I need two mic's because im interviewing people. Regards from México!
Glad it helped! That sounds like an awesome setup to get started. The 58 is a really stellar mic 🎤
superb! thx
So you seem to love the 58; but you have 2 Rode PodMics. Just got my Podmic and love it! This was a great review. The SM7 intrigues me but as you said, you can have 4 Rode Podmics or 2 Podmics and a 58 and a 57! Again great review
Glad you liked it! The 58 is wonderful, but I do love the PodMics combined with the Rodecaster.
The Enthusiasm Project Not to mention, the Rode has the cool factor for podcast/broadcast look!
I'm going to agree... the 58 sounds the best especially with the windscreen. Makes me wonder what the Rode would sound like with an outer windscreen.
That PodMic preset makes the Rode sound a lot more like the SM7b.
The 58 is just so dang good it’s hard to believe.
Neat Accessory to recommend to RODE- a USB to XLR Adapter....so USB mics can be used on the RodeCaster Pro.
I would love to use my Yeti with the Rodecaster 👍
Agree with you on the SM58.
Really great mic 🎤
Hi Tom, thanks for this video! Do you find the Rode PodMic to have decent gain on its own when you use it with the Rodecaster Pro? Or should the PodMic be used with a Cloudlifter or Fethead? I've read several reviews on Amazon saying the PodMic is too quiet and really benefits from using an amplifier. I'm wondering what your experience is, thank you!
It would definitely benefit from a boost of some kind, but I don’t personally use one just because I like to keep my setup as simple as possible and didn’t want another thing to plug in and deal with.
My microphones of choice are the Shure 55SH and Shure SM58 for stadium announcing for football and SM58 arena announcing for volleyball and basketball...I use the Shure 55SH for auditorium emceeing and vocals.
I bet the 55 sounds awesome in an auditorium setting!
Hi there Tom. Hope all safe and well on either side of blue wall. Can I thank you so much for your fantastic tutorial videos. They have been tremendous help.
This morning got possession of the pod mic for my rodecaster pro. Had been using a Shure SM58 and no problem. However now I have a hum when I plug in my headphones to front socket. It registers on the levels but I don't want to use Noise Gate. I have set my mic to pod mic setting. Could it be the cheap headphones I am using or would changing to headphone socket at rear make a difference at all.
Thanks in advance.
John
Congrats on the new gear! There shouldn't be a different between the front and rear headphone outputs, but the Rodeacaster's headphone preamps are always a bit noisy (although you said this is registering on the levels meter). I wold start be replacing headphones/cables to see if you find the culprit there.
I recently bought the SM48 and I bought an XLR to USB connector so I could connect it to my MacBook and inserted my headphones into my mac and wanted to record my podcast on QuickTime, but I can't hear myself like I would if I was recording on a blue yeti. Is there any way to fix this. I tried changing the output settings to my headphones but I always hear the delay. Thanks
Hmm, that’s a tricky one. Does your interface have any software that goes with it? That could have a monitor setting you can adjust. 🤔
hey. if you were to rank these three microphones: podmic, procaster, sm58 - which one needs the most gain boost? which one the least?
Of the three, on spoken word I think I prefer the SM58. Both Shures sound good and sound better to me than the Podmic but I think I like the SM58 just a little bit more. Many companies have tried to make their own replacement for the SM58 and some of them are good for certain situations but to me the smooth sound of the SM58 still sounds the best.
The 58 really is just about the most versatile mic there is. I agree that, even though they can sound great in their own way, none of the similar versions are quite the same.
I really like the PodMic when you aren't directly on it. Its very harsh when too close. When you back off even just a few inches, it sounds perfect. I am not a sound engineer or audio expert, just what I've noticed. At 1:40 for example.
Good to know! 👍
I just got my Forecasted Pro! Having fun using learning to use it well. You should check out the Behringer XM8500. $23 and it's really close to the SM58. I've used them for open mics and field podcasts. It's the best budget mic I've ever used.
Thank for the recommendation! I've had good luck with Behringer stuff in the past 👍
@@tombuck and of course I meant Rodecaster Pro. Damn autocorrect!
I have a SM57 w/screen like the gentlemen in the video. A SM58 and 2 8500s. And honestly all sound comparable after slight eq changes.
Do you get audio drift issues when syncing audio from the rode caster with your video?
I film at 24fps and haven’t had any issues so far 👍
Dude! For $100 that quality is a steal. I've been using some Sennheisers for my current setup but run rode for all my camera mics. Might have to grab one too!
Man your sennheiser sounds so much better tho.
It's sounds like how a mic would sound inbetween the SM58 and the SM7b.
Not too sharp like SM58 but not too smooth/boring like the SM7b.
Very pleasing to the ear.
i bought a sm57 for voice because i think it gets lower and more baritone singing and what i like to sing
A lot of mic selection really does come down to individual voice/preference. It's hard to make objective statements that are truly accurate. The SM57 is an outstanding mic.
I was looking for a comparison video, lol and behold, you have one! Me again and yes I found that the sm58 sounds better in a long be setting. So I think I won't upgrade to the podmic cuz it doesn't seem like an upgrade. Perhaps a procaster in the future. I do have a sure super 55 which I love as well but it's really pricey and I wanted one for the look being am old school Elvis and rockabilly fan
Very few things can top the "cool factor" of the Super 55. But yeah, the 58 is incredibly versatile. I've always thought of it as kind of like a Fender Strat. If you ask someone who knows nothing about guitars to imagine a guitar, they'll probably think of a Strat.
If you ask someone who knows nothing about microphones to imagine a mic, they'll probably think of the SM58.
Rode is good when speak fixed distance, it is quite sensitive when speak different positions. SM58 sounds in this test really nice, but not in all settings. I think Rode podmic might get some help from wind filter.
I have many of Rode podmics and not yet find decent wind filter, only couple really large.
Someone just recommended the WS2 as a wind filter, but I haven’t tried it yet.
I bought an SM57 for voice. It sounds fairly similar to the SM7B and it looks a lot better on camera with the wind screen than the 58 (which matters to some people).
I really like the 57 with a windscreen 😎
How do they compare for sound rejection? I record by a window with cars driving by so this is a huge factor. Thanks!
Personally, I wouldn't say any of them excel at rejection, but I'd give the SM58 the gold star.
The RODE WS2 Windscreen fits on the podmic
Really? Very cool...
Nice job! It sounds like you were working the Shure mics s little closer than the Rode. Is that accurate?
If I was, it wasn’t on purpose- I tried to keep everything as consistent as possible.
I think its because the rode is positioned a little lower than the others...
So you have just created a big problem for me and that is when it came down to the sm58 and the rode podmic I felt they sounded the same and was set on getting the podmic just for looks. Unfortunately I know am I only wondering how the podmic would sound with a pop filter because when you put the pop on the sm58 it sounds much better but if the rode can sound like that with the filter I want the rode.
Tricky decision for sure. The PodMic has a built in pop filter, but I think it’s a tad weak. Some bigger filters, like ones for the SM7B will fit on it, but I don’t have one. The SM58 is more versatile, but the PodMic works treat and is more visually appealing (which might matter in some circumstances). I personally own two PodMics and am very happy with them.
The popping with the SM58 was a little disturbing Tom. I've not heard the SM58 pop before on other reviews. What was happening? I love that mic
Probably just poor technique on my end 🤷🏻♂️
Hey, i have a question: is it possible to use the rode psa1 with the shure sm58 ? I was thinking of buying the psa1 but i don't know if i can use my sm58 on it
Yep! You just need to put a mic mount on the end of the arm and you’re good to go. I believe they also sell shock mounts for it if you need one.
@@tombuck okay thanks for the reply !
Starting with a 57 to podcast is solid cred. A lot of older audio guys tend to gravitate towards using nothing but a 57.
It's a really great mic. I think it was a seasoned vet who recommended it to me in 2005 to record guitar amps and it's still going strong.
Adorei o teste
SAMSON Q2U is also a good budget option ✌️
True! Samson makes great mics.
Do you recommend having two different branded mics when having 2-3 guests using the Rodecaster Pro? Im getting mixed reviews on whether this is vital or not. I'm still pretty brand new and not too tech savy. Also- do you have any tips regarding how to export recording into Garageband to tidy up with small edits? Sorry! Lots of questions! Your channel has helped me tremendously so far :)
Hi Cassie! As far as mics go, I would just use whatever you have to get started. I think common advice is to match mics whenever possible, but you can always play with the settings to make different mics sound good together. Start simple and upgrade as necessary.
For GarageBand, you should be able to drag the file directly from the memory card into a new project. If you’re recording with multi track, then all of the separate tracks should show up.
@@tombuck Thank you!
planning on getting a sm58 but am concerned about the infamous low output volume issue when speaking into it or recording vocals. heard it’s a reallyy quiet mic. which audio interface would u recommend to pair it with the sm58? am on a budget though!
The 58 is a pretty decent mic without a booster. The SM7B is the truly quiet one. Chances are just about any interface will give you workable levels with the 58. If not, you can add an affordable booster like the Klark Teknik CT-1 and be all set 👍
@@tombuck Sorry if it's a dumb question because I'm really new but is the booster essentially the same as a mic preamp? Also, thank you for the recommendation, really appreciate the help!
I'm gonna be honest the SM57 sounds better than all of them. Kinda a bit more clear compared to the others too. And the PodMic has like a robot noise i can hear. I think the Shure SM58 sounds pretty great although I thought your voice sounded better on the SM57. To bad I don't know what beatboxing would sound like on the SM57 lol.
I really love the 57 for vocals once a windscreen is added. Super rad for beatboxing 😁
I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2. Will it have enough gain with the Podmic without any extra gear? If
not, can you recommend a similar mic that doesn't need any additional
pre-amp apart from my Scarlett?
The Scarlett should be more than enough 👍
@@tombuck Thanks!
you can actually go even cheaper than all these, with a Shure SM48. costs about $40.. sound just like the SM58/57 and i think its sounds as good or better than the podmic (the podmic does sound good tho).
Currently using an SM48 with an MG10XU mixer..
Can anyone help me find a mic with the sm58 sound? I don't exactly like the build of the sm58 and it doesn't suit my needs but the sound does.
What’s up with its build? It’s one of the most durable out there. If you mean you don’t like its appearance, put a pop filter that looks good to you in front.
If you have access to music stores that lease microphones do a shootout, it’s fun and hopefully you’ll find what you’re looking for. I was surprised when I did it.
Hey Tom, do you think you could use the SM58 for an outdoor podcast where there may be some wind? Or would you use another mic type altogether?
I would add a windscreen over it, but yes definitely 👍
@@tombuck thanks ! 🙏🏼
The sm57 with A81WS windscreen is better than anything in the 100$ range (my opinion)
It’s really a great combo.
The SM58 is more clear and a bit louder.
Hey quick question if you still check here. I'm in the market for a dynamic xlr mic under $200 just for streaming/games by chance would you be able to give me a couple recommendations? Initially I was hard set on a sm58/beta 58a but now I'm coming across a few other options such as the Rode PodMic. Thanks and great vid!
I really love the PodMic, but they’re in really limited supply right now. The SM 58 is a really tough mic to beat overall though.
@@tombuck Oh wow that was a quick response. If supply was not an issue where do you think you'd land based on your experience/impression? Thanks for the reply, much appreciated!
Edit: or even something else in that range?
The podmic sounds thin as compared to sm57 and 58 but that is because it's eq'ed in such a way that you don't have to later on. the sm58 and 57 sound a bit muddy so you will need to clean them up with an eq. So I think for podcast podmic wins. In case if somebody is a singer or guitarist as well as a youtube podcaster than sm57 and 58 will be better I think.
I like the sm57 the most. it seems to be very balanced without eq in low and high end. I think the sm58 sounds great to but there's just something about it that I don't like and I can't figure out for the life of me what it is.
The 57 really is a stellar mic, especially with a nice windscreen on it for voice.
Finally someone said it so I didnt have to. Been looking for this type of comment. I think it's the Hollow Metal Capsule sounding tone heavy in the mids, that's how I describe it.
The podmic to my ear does not sound very good due to its anemic bass response.
Exactly. I think my Audix f50 sounds better than both for half the price of EITHER!
I'm glad I read the comments cuz that's exactly what I think it sounds cheap
What was your gain set at for the SM-58?
Gain was at 35 for all of the mics
Hi which mic do you recommend if we have deep bass voice?
You can do quite a bit with most decent mics though EQ, but of these the 58 is probably the most versatile. If your budget allows it, you might want to consider checking out an RE20.
You nailed it with a great topic. Unfortunately no matter how awesome the 2 Sure mics sound unexpected plosives did occur. My $ purchase decision will go to the Rode. It was a flatter sound but didn't show plosives. Well worth the $100 without purchasing pop filters.
This ridiculous. You sound just like photographer/youtuber Sean Tuck, except he has a British accent. Even your names sound similar haha. That said: I appreciate the videos man! I was looking for a mic to conduct/record phone interviews without breaking the bank, and wasn't prepared for the market/jungle I was about to get completely lost in. This vid helped me decide to get the SM58. Thanks!
I need to go check out Sean and see the Buck Tuck connection.
I keep looking for evidence of a $100-something dynamic that holds a candle to the SM7B, and I can't find it. In the meantime, an SM57 with A81WS windscreen and a bit of EQ is better than okay. Nice review thanks.
For it was the PodMic i got for myself, because I'm looking forward to livestream in the near future and then the looks of the microfone are pretty important, because the viewers can see the mic all the time
The PodMic is the perfect mix of quality sound, good price, and visual appeal. 👍
Greetings! Would the Shure SM57 and SM58 be suited well for ENG situations or are they only good for podcasting and live vocals? Also do you know if they would work with the tascam DR-10x and the Zoom h4n? Thanks!
The 58 is one of the most popular "reporter" mics in the world- it'll definitely do the job. So can the 57 with a good windscreen. I haven't used the Tascam, but I've had my H4n for many years and they definitely work. 👍
@@tombuck thanks! I think I’ll pick up a few of each for my team! I just like the looks of both lol
@@tombuck I also have one more question and it’s fine if you are unable to answer this. Do you believe these mics would be compatible with rycote mic flags and the rode news shooter kit?
I know there’s a lot of fans of the Podmic, but to my ears the SM58 has a richer, fuller sound as is, with out any EQ. Still an amazing mic.
It’s really tough to go wrong with the SM58 👍
Agree! It's richer
How does Rode USB-Mini compare to PodMic in terms of sound? One is XLR while other does not need an audio interface.,
I haven't done a direct comparison myself, but the biggest difference would be USB vs. XLR. USB is simpler , but XLR allows for more options/expandability.
Hey sorry my Englisch ist not so Good, how many gain you give on the Schure SM 58 thank You for Video
The amount of gain will depend on your mixer/interface, but you usually want it to be reading -16 on your audio meters.
@@tombuck I have a goxlr Mini
which of the mics is best for loud environments? My current microphone picks up so much that happens in the background, loud family members, AC, etc...
Out of these ones, I’d go with the SM58. Get as close to it as you can and it should get rid of everything else.
@@tombuck interesting. I was planning on the Rode mic but because they've been selling out so quickly I haven't been able to. I'm glad because now I'll probably go with the sm58. Thanks!
Do you need a cloudlifter with the SM58, or it doesn't need it?
It really depends on your interface/mixer, but generally speaking I would say you can get by without one.
For me SM58. Sounds great.
It's so wildly versatile, I love it.
How about recording vocals to be mixed into a song? What works then?
Of these 3, I think the SM58 would be best.
@@tombuck thank you. What bothers is me that you have to give this mic a lot of gain through the sound card. Hoping to learn from you how one can tackle this.
I have the SM58 and im brand new to twitch streaming and UA-cam but my recordings end up way worse quality wise im not sure whats wrong I use obs as my recording app
It likely has to do with the interface and/or mixer you're using with the mic.
@@tombuck I use the behringer U-Phonia UM2. I'm thinking it might be the settings on obs though because when i recorded videos using audacity it sounded fine
Smart- that definitely narrows it down to OBS. 👍
@@tombuck Thank you very much, also great video even though i know im late.