Good question, OK: 1) Gearbox map (though only when out of warranty as I am not buying another DSG box at £5k!) 2) I like the idea of the SuperPro top mounts but only if not noisy, tempted to fit Clubsport S hubs to do it properly, be interested to see how Mk8 GTI has more negative camber as might be cheaper). 3) Definitely the big brake kit (but in red) 4) SuperPro ARB (prob all it needs for track with top mounts) 5) Racingline R600 intake The BIlstein B16 DCC suspension is good but I'd have to try the other bits on their own first. I'd also try the EIbach version which made in partnership with Clubsport S 'ring record driver, Benny Leuchter (although Bilstein and Eibach are mates so it's probably the same bar the marketing!) I think TCR is fast enough for front wheel drive so I'll leave the engine as it is. Likewise exhaust is characterful enough.
@@volkswizard Would the same be true for the standard GTI? What about for a Mk6? (I have a standard Edition 35 that I'm considering modding rather than going to Mk7)
Car looks great. My only critique would be that you listed the ‘only’ weaknesses of the car being the engine gearbox and brakes and in my view those are pretty much the fundamental element of the car other than the suspension. I have a regular mk7 GTI and having owned lots of Renaultsport cars including the trophy R and then a Lotus Elise Cup it’s not the fastest thing in the world but it’s a great car to drive with an excellent manual box. I’d agree the brakes aren’t the most urgent but for 90% of driving they’re sufficient and it’s very easy to drive the car very fast on some challenging roads and it just handles it well and pushes on with rampant urgency when driven in anger. It’s not as raw as a Megane RS but a great great car nonetheless. PS I have the MPS4’s and they are excellent in all weathers. I drive them daily and in this rotten weather even standing water they’re so good. I’ve had Cup 2’s before and loads of other performance tyres and as an all round tyre the 4s’s are really good.
Interesting video - not sure I'd do any of them myself to my R. Fancy doing them to your R Estate? Now, THAT would be a video!! It would be practical issues I'd have with this - I live hundreds of miles away from any tuning company like this & Id guess that letting the VW warranty run out first would be a given. Totally agree that doing these mods on an older R makes much more sense (mines a 20 plate). I've tried such things before - sports exhausts, suspension, etc - about 25 years ago on s Vauxhall 1.6 Cavalier 🤣🤣 - to be honest, I'm more into dB than hp - I'd be taking mine to a bespoke car audio place & doing hifi mods/upgrades🤣. On a different note re Golf R brakes - like yourself, I run 17" Dijon wheels on my R estate in the winter. Obviously the brakes on that featured Golf R wouldn't fit 17" wheels, but I think I remember you saying on your R estate video that the performance pack brakes are the same size as the standard brakes, with different discs/pads but the same callipers - just thinking that would be a great upgrade to do? Probably commenting on the wrong video for that, apologies!
Great review. Suppose these type of comparisons should be divided into two camps; best factory and best modified (as well, modified could be an unlimited scope of change.) Time for a modified TCR review? 👌
Hi mate hope you are well. I've had a mk6 dsg and mk7 manual gti in the past didnt really feel that great just ordinary refined cars. Do you think the r is a big step up from the gti?
As always, a very good, insightful video. A tcr is a nice car but I think an R is much better value for money. Now test drive an 8r and upload the video! 😜👍🏽
Interesting video but sort of implying you need to spend 11K on an R to make it a better car than your beloved TCR. Also there are few things about the video that I would question. 1. Racingline catch can reduces the octane?!?! 🤔. 2. I'm not going to use launch, because I don't think you should?!? 😂 Thats like saying I won't use the windscreen wipers because you don't think you should. If launch control wasn't supposed to be used it wouldn't have been built into the car by VW. 3. As good as those brakes are, the early Racingline 6 pots don't have dust boots so they need rebuilding on a regular basis.
I watched your face driving this and not once did you smile.my Golf R was APR tuned and i loved it! i sold it and purchased a GTI TCR.it is like a slug after driving my R and i do not ever put my foot down any more.that is why i purchased it,so i can drive like you and have a sad face,
Totally agree and that's where the R wins out, because you can mod them to make them come alive and they've got the traction. I still saw ESC light yesterday a few times but I like that because the chassis is finally having to do some work. I think VRS tuned a Clubsport to 500 hp and I can only imagine how hideous that was to drive especially in the damp and cold.
I'm glad you finally drove and reviewed a tuned Golf R Andrew...especially Stage 2....Great video....I enjoyed it very much.....Glad you loved driving this car...I knew you would...The car you drove which is very similar to my Mk 7 R soon to be Stage 2...My car is also Deep Black Pearl and will have a lot of the mods this car has including Bilstein B16's...(I also have DCC)...Greetings from a New Zealand Golf R owner...Keep up the awesome work....I like your vids....I don't always agree with your comments and reviews....but appreciate your knowledge ...passion and experience....I've learnt a lot from you over the last few years I've owned and driven fast Golf's...I'm now on my 3rd.....Previously had Mk 5 R32 and Stage 2 Mk 6 Golf R....Now onto my Mk 7 R which will be IE Stage 2 very soon....Keep the vids coming....👍👌
Hey Andrew! Awesome video once more! However, I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't trade the TCR for the tuned Golf R because, when it comes right down to it, the Golf R is crazy fast and you have to be at that level to have fun. It's also at that level that disaster is most likely to occur if and when you lose it. The TCR is just fast enough to frighten, but not so much that you can't control it when it does go too far. The edge is so much smaller at the top end and so much faster on the Golf R, where control is beyond most but career racing drivers. Besides the TCR is still a way better looking car than the R, at least, in that generation. Be safe and have loads of fun driving!
Hey Michael! Glad you enjoyed it. I think for real world daily use the TCR is better but as an example of what a Golf can be, the mods make that R a very impressive package and because of the limits of front wheel drive, I don't think a TCR modded in exactly the same way would be any good because it would be very frustrating. That doesn't mean the TCR can't be improved, more negative camber, manual mode gearbox map and those brakes and it would be a much nicer track car with very little compromise for the road.
Hmm well I don't think TCR needs any more power or torque, boring I know but traction isn't great at this time of year as it is and it feels a lot faster than a stock R already (one you get going). I'd like more negative camber and that gearbox map and I think that would make it a lot nicer to drive on track but no way am I touching that box until it's out of warranty having already forked out for new DSG box on a car that was under warranty because VW did the oil change 1000 miles late and invalidated it.
I think 400bhp is about the most you need from a hatchback in any country, the RS3 being a perfect example of this, given it has the correct brakes for the power and the chassis to handle it
Yes, it’s the sweet spot between performance, road-usability, reliability and not forgetting COST. I run a 380hp stage one map with TT inlet and club-sport brakes. Total cost circa £1200. 100. I would not bother with exhaust or down pipe and the catch tank or the expensive BBK, unless all 4 discs and pads needed doing. The coil over kit is interesting, but stock DCC is already nigh on perfect, so save on the suspension. Claimed 395hp from APR, I doubt, without the larger intercooler.
This one has done 60k, 53k of them with map. Going through the bills, only failure has been the coolant pump/thermostat module, not surprise there then!
Thanks! I said early Rs are £10k in the trade, I paid that for a 2014 with 80k in October, 1 owner, FVWSH, just needed some tidying. It will take time for that to filter through but it will happen as there are so many out there.
Have to Admire a sleeper, I love mine. I would have bought the AP 6 pots ( cheaper) Airtec cooler (cheaper) Miltek/scorpion decat frontpipe (cheaper) I’ve looked at b16 and kwv3 and £15-£1800 nice bits of kit. The superpro rear arb does make a difference , I love the “boring” understated looks of a golf surprises a lot of cars with younger drivers. It’s a lovely sympathetically modded car 👌💪my car was tuned by QSTUNING and love it #🚀
10.000 gbp are kind of a lot of money for a stage 2 .(trackslag/bcs catted downpipe , probaly intercooler but not 100%needed , a tune , fluid pads and clubsport discs , thats done rest is cosmetic and or useless and or not needed)
Great to see one without all the noise and silly bangs( very loud I mean). Maybe it’s an age thing as you get older you want something less attention grabbing. It’s all about choice though at the end of the day , great video once again , how about getting a tuned manual one on the channel??
Hi Andrew sorry to be Mr misery but at the end of the day when the guy who spent 11k on his R comes to move it on he'll still only get a bit more than what a 15 plate Golf R is worth. Yes I know he'll get masses of enjoyment out of it but he won't get any of his cash back(unless he finds someone gullible enough)
I've just looked at the APR site and rev limiter behaviour is user definable which makes sense so you can choose to have it or not, your call www.goapr.co.uk/products/tcu_upgrade_dq250_exx_fxx.html
@@kokekan75 I had a revo stage 1 dsg map and the guy who did it asked me if I wanted the option of hitting the limiter in manual mode or dsg upshifting itself. So I'm guessing apr should be the same
The KW DDC coilover kit in comfort mode is more comfortable than standard and in race it’s about the same but the character of the suspension is miles better than standard. No crashing over bumps.
Great vid...... Tell me is that exhaust res deleted or not..?? Also I wonder if APR are offering a similar DSG map for the 7.5 with the 7 speed. Keep up the good work Andrew....!!
great vid as usual andrew. Nice mods on the car, subtle. Have to say when i put coilovers on mine, i had DCC cancellation kit & def drives & feels more comfy than it was with DCC. KW brand coilovers tho.
Fantastic car, very good selection of modifications, however its too quick for UK roads, its a car to have fun in on the autobahn, or on track! Great Video Andrew
You could try and modify the TCR a bit (ECU-TCU Tune, beefier antiroll bars) and make a new "test" or track day if possible. Would be interesting as revo brought the performance pack gpf/opf to the market bringing it to 400hp for 1790 pounds.
Nice video. It would be nice to know what effect the upgrades have on the standard components.. clutch for example. I have a paranoia about failures with VW group cars now.
If it was manual car, clutch would have been dead long ago. No idea about DSG clutch longevity but I think 6R tuning showed the 6 speed DSG was pretty tough. I wouldn't assume the later 7 speed was because as you say a lot of components aren't as durable as they once were.
Thanks Craig? Sorry I’m a bit confused, what are the wheels on which Golf? On this one they are OZ Omnia 8x18, on my TCR they’ll be revealed soon. I’m confused because I thought I’d said what they were on the R but I may not have 👍
Get the TCR to r tech performance in Nuneaton, great guys and a full custom map with dyno print out. they are the best in my opinion , Nicky knows his stuff
Thanks Malcolm! I can't work out whether it's expensive or not. Ultimately you can't buy a car like that from VW so it's valid to modify one, AMG A45 is £50k and 415 bhp and probably no quicker as it must be heavier. But then add £10k onto a new R you might as well buy the Merc
Lovely car, you could debadge it and swap the mirror caps out for body colour and have the ultimate Q car. I love what the owners done and thanks for another great video.
Hello Andrew....can you help with a question as the dealers are a bit 'not sure'! A 2016 Golf R Mk7...does it have a cambelt or a timing chain? Thank you....love your workshop videos.
Blimey, use another dealer quickly! Mk7 R is timing chain so no regular interval, Mk6 R was cambelt but we've had 7 years of chain driven Rs now. Glad the workshop videos are useful 👍
Brill video Andrew. Should’ve had a custom remap by Niki at R-Tech though! Best in the business by a mile for this engine. Would love to see you guys do a video.
I nearly did some work with R-Tech when I had my Edition 30 for VW Driver mag but the mag went out of business and it I sold the car. The time will come though I am sure, they are quite local to me too.
@@stujeffrey I also have a Edition 35 and looking to stage 1 tune it for daily road use. Did you have DSG, if so did you tune it too and was it worth it?
GFB diverter valve are one the best DV to buy for performance cars. A company called Demon Tweaks also sell them another well known performance parts company
Thanks Steve. I have a 72 year old chap who's a regular customer. Sold him a Scirocco R nearly 2 years ago, asked me to find an early Golf R and this came up. Knew he wasn't averse to modifications but he likes his cars to be super tidy, luckily after front and back bumpers were painted it was good enough for him. I did say the deal was subject to a video so he knew it was happening. When he saw it today he asked if I'd been rallying in it! He does 2k per year so I'll get it back one day soon in just as good condition.
clubsport s discs more than capable for stopping well with this power, far too excessive, oil catch can isnt required unless stage 3 big turbo set up, bcs system sounds like absolute dog shit and half the money seems to be spent on labour charges so would hardly be £11k on mods specifically and finally coilovers arent required personally, again not a necessity, all IMO of course
A whole new side to the channel Andrew, and you didn’t have to con someone into letting you drive there pride and joy while they sit in the passenger seat!1
had both pilot sport 4 (18") and 4s (19") the 4s deffo felt quite a bit better, now using goodyear eagle f1 supersports and so far they do feel a little better than the 4S
Great video. Just a comment and thumbs up for the YT algorithms, keep trucking with the content. Another year or so and the channel will be at 100k and a little more manageable when you will have sensible offers from sponsors to repay your time and effort for previous content!
Love it when folk splash out on extras just for the hell of it Andrew 😂 Also, I think I’ll check out the fare at the cafe the next time I’m down visiting my family in Kenilworth 😉🍔🚗
The owner was 56 so he is one of us, 5 years to piece it all together as well so enough time to research and feel the incremental benefits. Just a shame he didn't have it for long with the Bilsteins as they were fitted in June.
To be honest, I like the fact it looks just like a standard R. That adds to the appeal, rather than turning it into a chavved up McDonald's cruisemobile. The money was spent on things that actually improve the car (not what I'd do myself, but each to their own), rather than show off cosmetics.
@@andrewmcivor42 i would expect a little style and standout for the money. If KIA, Hyundai, Honda and even Toyota can manage it, surely VW can. The Stinger has it all, for less money.
@@gone547 a). What's a Stinger? b). That completely missed the point of a Golf R - it's supposed to be a "Q" car - if you want show off styling with a Golf, get a GTi. and C). It isn't a standard VW car anyway - the mods are aftermarket. Personally, I'd spend the money on stuff that matters, other than stuff to pose in
@@andrewmcivor42 with all the offerings available today, the only true 'Q' car these days is an unmarked police car as you will soon find out if you street race or indulge in traffic light derbies. If I wanted a shoebox I would visit the nearest shoe shop and I wouldn't wate time and money trying to turn it into a chocolate box. What's a Stinger, you ask. Well, it's a GT that ticks all/all the boxes in one go for less money and a longer warranty. The biggest advantage is you don't have to have a little dick to own one and then spend a fortune trying to make it bigger.
Hi there...make sure thats no a meths tank on the front...it was on the one I won off Calvin's car diary.that was 600 bhp on race fuel and 550 on v power....wowww. did incorporate a new turbo also...check out arhers 600bhp golf on you tube.CRAZY.🤣🤣🤣👍
I think with AWD you have a lot of potential there, above 300 on GTI and you just won't be able to use, 395 hp yesterday in greasy wintery conditions and it was totally fine as the launch showed, want to try 500 next!
@@volkswizard Of course, having that ability to throw the power down is great. But it takes away the fun, like you say, it's to easy to do it all so it takes so much drama away. I can imagine, when done right and setup correctly, they're a lot of fun! Hoping to get myself a Clubsport or a nice GTI Performance this year, you do sourcing of vehicles?
I took one in px for £10k recently, it was what the owner wanted for it so I paid it. 2014 manual 5 door black, 80k miles, no options, needed some minor tidying but 1 owner from new and FVWSH
Mk7 R dsg was the worst vw I’ve ever had (from 8 of Them ) hated it - only had it a year. Interesting video as my choice was either to spend this much to make it more drivable - especially the gearbox which was shite, or to buy a 7.5 gti pp - manual , for less £ - which is what i did and I absolutely love it. Best one so far 🥰
sadly I have driven a Mk4 2.0 and I can't even think what it could be the best at? The best GTI for not driving or looking like a GTI? The best GTI for consuming oil? Bad times...
I think on this occasion it's worth putting the doors to one side as the rest of it makes up for that (and it's got enough grunt now to make up their extra weight!)
Andrew has said before, even the stock R, you can have some real fun in it, but at silly speeds. Which is just not viable, not for me anyway, I want to be able to have fun at legal speeds.
Andew. I'd be interested to know which of these mods, if any, you'd be interested in having o your TCR.
Good question, OK:
1) Gearbox map (though only when out of warranty as I am not buying another DSG box at £5k!)
2) I like the idea of the SuperPro top mounts but only if not noisy, tempted to fit Clubsport S hubs to do it properly, be interested to see how Mk8 GTI has more negative camber as might be cheaper).
3) Definitely the big brake kit (but in red)
4) SuperPro ARB (prob all it needs for track with top mounts)
5) Racingline R600 intake
The BIlstein B16 DCC suspension is good but I'd have to try the other bits on their own first. I'd also try the EIbach version which made in partnership with Clubsport S 'ring record driver, Benny Leuchter (although Bilstein and Eibach are mates so it's probably the same bar the marketing!)
I think TCR is fast enough for front wheel drive so I'll leave the engine as it is. Likewise exhaust is characterful enough.
@@volkswizard Thanks for the reply. Great vid as usual. Sorry I got your name wrong (typo honest).
@@volkswizard Would the same be true for the standard GTI? What about for a Mk6? (I have a standard Edition 35 that I'm considering modding rather than going to Mk7)
I realize Im kind of off topic but does anybody know of a good site to stream newly released series online ?
@Trent Carl Try FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)
What a credit to the owner. An opinion from a man who knows his Golf's.
Car looks great. My only critique would be that you listed the ‘only’ weaknesses of the car being the engine gearbox and brakes and in my view those are pretty much the fundamental element of the car other than the suspension. I have a regular mk7 GTI and having owned lots of Renaultsport cars including the trophy R and then a Lotus Elise Cup it’s not the fastest thing in the world but it’s a great car to drive with an excellent manual box. I’d agree the brakes aren’t the most urgent but for 90% of driving they’re sufficient and it’s very easy to drive the car very fast on some challenging roads and it just handles it well and pushes on with rampant urgency when driven in anger. It’s not as raw as a Megane RS but a great great car nonetheless. PS I have the MPS4’s and they are excellent in all weathers. I drive them daily and in this rotten weather even standing water they’re so good. I’ve had Cup 2’s before and loads of other performance tyres and as an all round tyre the 4s’s are really good.
Interesting video - not sure I'd do any of them myself to my R. Fancy doing them to your R Estate? Now, THAT would be a video!!
It would be practical issues I'd have with this - I live hundreds of miles away from any tuning company like this & Id guess that letting the VW warranty run out first would be a given. Totally agree that doing these mods on an older R makes much more sense (mines a 20 plate).
I've tried such things before - sports exhausts, suspension, etc - about 25 years ago on s Vauxhall 1.6 Cavalier 🤣🤣 - to be honest, I'm more into dB than hp - I'd be taking mine to a bespoke car audio place & doing hifi mods/upgrades🤣.
On a different note re Golf R brakes - like yourself, I run 17" Dijon wheels on my R estate in the winter. Obviously the brakes on that featured Golf R wouldn't fit 17" wheels, but I think I remember you saying on your R estate video that the performance pack brakes are the same size as the standard brakes, with different discs/pads but the same callipers - just thinking that would be a great upgrade to do? Probably commenting on the wrong video for that, apologies!
Loved this. Sounds like a perfectly modded car without any stupid body modifications. Very nice 👍🏻😎
Thanks Darren! 👍
Great car overall with solid mods. Not sold on the suspension though. Stock R suspension is fine if you use the car on the road most of the time
Yeah I agree
Great review. Suppose these type of comparisons should be divided into two camps; best factory and best modified (as well, modified could be an unlimited scope of change.) Time for a modified TCR review? 👌
Hi mate hope you are well. I've had a mk6 dsg and mk7 manual gti in the past didnt really feel that great just ordinary refined cars. Do you think the r is a big step up from the gti?
Would be interesting to see what the TCR would be like with the amount spent on it!
No point putting that much power into a fwd. The R is a Rock Solid platform to build a proper beast
Does it feel faster than a standard RS3 with 400hp?
Similar but the handling as waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than an RS3 as it doesn't have a heavy engine up front
for 2k you'd think they'd use stainless hardware on the brakes..
no one uses stainless on brakes, and there are reasons.
Fake pops and crackles in modern cars are only a tad bit better than pumped in engine noise through the speakers
Have had goodyear f1 and Michelin ps4s and the Michelin are a lot better.
I have PS4’s on my GTI they really are a fantastic tyre in all weather. Mega.
As always, a very good, insightful video. A tcr is a nice car but I think an R is much better value for money.
Now test drive an 8r and upload the video! 😜👍🏽
more fun ? yes
more money ? yes
maybe it really just depends on your budget :)
Interesting video but sort of implying you need to spend 11K on an R to make it a better car than your beloved TCR.
Also there are few things about the video that I would question.
1. Racingline catch can reduces the octane?!?! 🤔.
2. I'm not going to use launch, because I don't think you should?!? 😂 Thats like saying I won't use the windscreen wipers because you don't think you should. If launch control wasn't supposed to be used it wouldn't have been built into the car by VW.
3. As good as those brakes are, the early Racingline 6 pots don't have dust boots so they need rebuilding on a regular basis.
I watched your face driving this and not once did you smile.my Golf R was APR tuned and i loved it!
i sold it and purchased a GTI TCR.it is like a slug after driving my R and i do not ever put my foot down
any more.that is why i purchased it,so i can drive like you and have a sad face,
Enjoyed the content.nice car.very capable but subtle.tcr would have too many traction issues with that much torque I think
Totally agree and that's where the R wins out, because you can mod them to make them come alive and they've got the traction. I still saw ESC light yesterday a few times but I like that because the chassis is finally having to do some work. I think VRS tuned a Clubsport to 500 hp and I can only imagine how hideous that was to drive especially in the damp and cold.
I'm glad you finally drove and reviewed a tuned Golf R Andrew...especially Stage 2....Great video....I enjoyed it very much.....Glad you loved driving this car...I knew you would...The car you drove which is very similar to my Mk 7 R soon to be Stage 2...My car is also Deep Black Pearl and will have a lot of the mods this car has including Bilstein B16's...(I also have DCC)...Greetings from a New Zealand Golf R owner...Keep up the awesome work....I like your vids....I don't always agree with your comments and reviews....but appreciate your knowledge ...passion and experience....I've learnt a lot from you over the last few years I've owned and driven fast Golf's...I'm now on my 3rd.....Previously had Mk 5 R32 and Stage 2 Mk 6 Golf R....Now onto my Mk 7 R which will be IE Stage 2 very soon....Keep the vids coming....👍👌
Hey Andrew! Awesome video once more! However, I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't trade the TCR for the tuned Golf R because, when it comes right down to it, the Golf R is crazy fast and you have to be at that level to have fun. It's also at that level that disaster is most likely to occur if and when you lose it. The TCR is just fast enough to frighten, but not so much that you can't control it when it does go too far. The edge is so much smaller at the top end and so much faster on the Golf R, where control is beyond most but career racing drivers. Besides the TCR is still a way better looking car than the R, at least, in that generation. Be safe and have loads of fun driving!
Hey Michael! Glad you enjoyed it. I think for real world daily use the TCR is better but as an example of what a Golf can be, the mods make that R a very impressive package and because of the limits of front wheel drive, I don't think a TCR modded in exactly the same way would be any good because it would be very frustrating. That doesn't mean the TCR can't be improved, more negative camber, manual mode gearbox map and those brakes and it would be a much nicer track car with very little compromise for the road.
Welcome to the slippery slope of Golf Modifications Andrew lol How long before the TCR gets power hike and DSG remap then? 🤣👍
Hmm well I don't think TCR needs any more power or torque, boring I know but traction isn't great at this time of year as it is and it feels a lot faster than a stock R already (one you get going). I'd like more negative camber and that gearbox map and I think that would make it a lot nicer to drive on track but no way am I touching that box until it's out of warranty having already forked out for new DSG box on a car that was under warranty because VW did the oil change 1000 miles late and invalidated it.
Is 400hp usable on our UK roads though? Personally I'd rather go for a stock manual Golf R or stage 1 GTI, seems like the sweet spot for me!
I think 400bhp is about the most you need from a hatchback in any country, the RS3 being a perfect example of this, given it has the correct brakes for the power and the chassis to handle it
Yes, it’s the sweet spot between performance, road-usability, reliability and not forgetting COST. I run a 380hp stage one map with TT inlet and club-sport brakes. Total cost circa £1200. 100. I would not bother with exhaust or down pipe and the catch tank or the expensive BBK, unless all 4 discs and pads needed doing. The coil over kit is interesting, but stock DCC is already nigh on perfect, so save on the suspension.
Claimed 395hp from APR, I doubt, without the larger intercooler.
I’m glad you are finally coming around to the golf r side haha
How many miles does it have on the clock?
This one has done 60k, 53k of them with map. Going through the bills, only failure has been the coolant pump/thermostat module, not surprise there then!
Good job 👍 I like the Exhaust tone uunderstated like the golf, Could some one recommend a exhaust for my golf mark 7 Gti or even a down pipe
BCS as per the video
.... they also do100 cell sports cats or decat pipe
Thanks for your reply will look it up 👍
GFB, go fast bits, I believe they're Australian iirc :p
They are indeed I used to have a few of their bugs on my MK3 st but got family to send it to me as it was way cheaper
So can you please tell me where i can get a 15 plate golf r with reasonable mileage on for 10k? well done video
Thanks! I said early Rs are £10k in the trade, I paid that for a 2014 with 80k in October, 1 owner, FVWSH, just needed some tidying. It will take time for that to filter through but it will happen as there are so many out there.
Have to Admire a sleeper, I love mine.
I would have bought the AP 6 pots ( cheaper)
Airtec cooler (cheaper)
Miltek/scorpion decat frontpipe (cheaper)
I’ve looked at b16 and kwv3 and £15-£1800 nice bits of kit.
The superpro rear arb does make a difference , I love the “boring” understated looks of a golf surprises a lot of cars with younger drivers.
It’s a lovely sympathetically modded car 👌💪my car was tuned by QSTUNING and love it #🚀
All very good as a hobby, but I’d rather have a stock RS3 which will keep its residual value
10.000 gbp are kind of a lot of money for a stage 2 .(trackslag/bcs catted downpipe , probaly intercooler but not 100%needed , a tune , fluid pads and clubsport discs , thats done rest is cosmetic and or useless and or not needed)
Golf GTI PP VS Golf R both to be permanently left standard?
Sad to see the thumbnails are changing with the times
The BCS exhaust is one of the best exhausts for the R 😍
Here here. Amazing exhausts!
Great to see one without all the noise and silly bangs( very loud I mean). Maybe it’s an age thing as you get older you want something less attention grabbing. It’s all about choice though at the end of the day , great video once again , how about getting a tuned manual one on the channel??
Hi Andrew sorry to be Mr misery but at the end of the day when the guy who spent 11k on his R comes to move it on he'll still only get a bit more than what a 15 plate Golf R is worth. Yes I know he'll get masses of enjoyment out of it but he won't get any of his cash back(unless he finds someone gullible enough)
What DSG map has this got? I have the APR stage 1 TCU remap and it does change up in manual mode.
It's an APR map on both, it was updated in 2018. It was installed originally 31/12/15, invoice says "DQ250 DSG remap".
@@volkswizard Must be the Stage 2 map. Stage 1 definitely auto upshifts.
I've just looked at the APR site and rev limiter behaviour is user definable which makes sense so you can choose to have it or not, your call www.goapr.co.uk/products/tcu_upgrade_dq250_exx_fxx.html
@@volkswizard Thanks! Will check if I can get that enabled on the stage 1 I have with my local dealer.
@@kokekan75 I had a revo stage 1 dsg map and the guy who did it asked me if I wanted the option of hitting the limiter in manual mode or dsg upshifting itself. So I'm guessing apr should be the same
Interior door has red ambient strip? Should be blue
Just checked and it’s blue, where in the vid is it red?
@@volkswizard I think it's your red jumper reflecting lol
13.07 check it out volkswizard
The KW DDC coilover kit in comfort mode is more comfortable than standard and in race it’s about the same but the character of the suspension is miles better than standard. No crashing over bumps.
Great vid...... Tell me is that exhaust res deleted or not..?? Also I wonder if APR are offering a similar DSG map for the 7.5 with the 7 speed. Keep up the good work Andrew....!!
Thanks! Yes, 7 speed can be mapped too www.goapr.co.uk/products/tcu_upgrade_dq381.html
10k for 15 plate with DSG and leather. What trade you working in? Circus?
Did I say DSG and leather?
@@volkswizard I quote these cars change hands for 10k. Couldn't even get a categorised no options Golf R for that.
great vid as usual andrew. Nice mods on the car, subtle. Have to say when i put coilovers on mine, i had DCC cancellation kit & def drives & feels more comfy than it was with DCC. KW brand coilovers tho.
Nice car, nice video. Good job putting this together.
Thanks larry! 👍
Fantastic car, very good selection of modifications, however its too quick for UK roads, its a car to have fun in on the autobahn, or on track! Great Video Andrew
You could try and modify the TCR a bit (ECU-TCU Tune, beefier antiroll bars) and make a new "test" or track day if possible. Would be interesting as revo brought the performance pack gpf/opf to the market bringing it to 400hp for 1790 pounds.
Nice video. It would be nice to know what effect the upgrades have on the standard components.. clutch for example. I have a paranoia about failures with VW group cars now.
If it was manual car, clutch would have been dead long ago. No idea about DSG clutch longevity but I think 6R tuning showed the 6 speed DSG was pretty tough. I wouldn't assume the later 7 speed was because as you say a lot of components aren't as durable as they once were.
Great vid as always. It’s probably been said but what are the wheels on the golf now 👍
Thanks Craig? Sorry I’m a bit confused, what are the wheels on which Golf? On this one they are OZ Omnia 8x18, on my TCR they’ll be revealed soon. I’m confused because I thought I’d said what they were on the R but I may not have 👍
Get the TCR to r tech performance in Nuneaton, great guys and a full custom map with dyno print out. they are the best in my opinion , Nicky knows his stuff
tastefully done mods great video loved how you explained the differences with the mods on this Golf R.
Glad you enjoyed it Sean!
What a great car - love that the mods whilst costly no doubt they transform the car so subtly - such fun and a great find Andrew :) 👍
Thanks Malcolm! I can't work out whether it's expensive or not. Ultimately you can't buy a car like that from VW so it's valid to modify one, AMG A45 is £50k and 415 bhp and probably no quicker as it must be heavier. But then add £10k onto a new R you might as well buy the Merc
What would the gti tcr with 10k be like with spend on it 🤔
Lovely car, you could debadge it and swap the mirror caps out for body colour and have the ultimate Q car. I love what the owners done and thanks for another great video.
Hello Andrew....can you help with a question as the dealers are a bit 'not sure'! A 2016 Golf R Mk7...does it have a cambelt or a timing chain? Thank you....love your workshop videos.
Blimey, use another dealer quickly! Mk7 R is timing chain so no regular interval, Mk6 R was cambelt but we've had 7 years of chain driven Rs now. Glad the workshop videos are useful 👍
Brill video Andrew. Should’ve had a custom remap by Niki at R-Tech though! Best in the business by a mile for this engine. Would love to see you guys do a video.
I nearly did some work with R-Tech when I had my Edition 30 for VW Driver mag but the mag went out of business and it I sold the car. The time will come though I am sure, they are quite local to me too.
@@volkswizard really nice guys. Who know the TFSI 2.0 inside out. I had a custom stage 1 on my Edition 35 in 2019. Transformed the car.
@@stujeffrey I also have a Edition 35 and looking to stage 1 tune it for daily road use. Did you have DSG, if so did you tune it too and was it worth it?
@@kylenewman7101 I have a manual. If you have a DSG definitely get the updated software to handle the extra stage 1 bhp and torque.
GFB diverter valve are one the best DV to buy for performance cars. A company called Demon Tweaks also sell them another well known performance parts company
No nonsense car journalism...love it.
Great video with good content.
Glad you enjoyed it David
Can a 395 bhp golf r be more fun than a gti?..... hmm let me think 🤔
Fun doesn't have that much to do with a power, a 200 PS Mk5 GTI is more fun than a stock 300 PS R
volkswizard depends what you find fun really doesn’t it I like to do launches and 2wd gti are no good for that
Great video! Was this golf one you’ve sold?
Thanks Steve. I have a 72 year old chap who's a regular customer. Sold him a Scirocco R nearly 2 years ago, asked me to find an early Golf R and this came up. Knew he wasn't averse to modifications but he likes his cars to be super tidy, luckily after front and back bumpers were painted it was good enough for him. I did say the deal was subject to a video so he knew it was happening. When he saw it today he asked if I'd been rallying in it! He does 2k per year so I'll get it back one day soon in just as good condition.
An interesting combination would be to review Michelin pilot sport cup 2 with Pretorias on the tcr.
clubsport s discs more than capable for stopping well with this power, far too excessive, oil catch can isnt required unless stage 3 big turbo set up, bcs system sounds like absolute dog shit and half the money seems to be spent on labour charges so would hardly be £11k on mods specifically and finally coilovers arent required personally, again not a necessity, all IMO of course
A whole new side to the channel Andrew, and you didn’t have to con someone into letting you drive there pride and joy while they sit in the passenger seat!1
I was thinking of doing a Living Life Fast type vid but not the same on your own, with a seat belt on.. :)
had both pilot sport 4 (18") and 4s (19") the 4s deffo felt quite a bit better, now using goodyear eagle f1 supersports and so far they do feel a little better than the 4S
Agreed, the standard Michelin 4 were a defo let down compared to the 4s.
Great video.
Just a comment and thumbs up for the YT algorithms, keep trucking with the content.
Another year or so and the channel will be at 100k and a little more manageable when you will have sensible offers from sponsors to repay your time and effort for previous content!
Love it when folk splash out on extras just for the hell of it Andrew 😂 Also, I think I’ll check out the fare at the cafe the next time I’m down visiting my family in Kenilworth 😉🍔🚗
A great channel you have very much look forward to watching them👍
Thank you kindly Matthew
Andrew,smitten by a Golf R mk7, now who would have believed that.
Thanks for the enlightening review of a well worked out and thought through mods👍😈
The owner was 56 so he is one of us, 5 years to piece it all together as well so enough time to research and feel the incremental benefits. Just a shame he didn't have it for long with the Bilsteins as they were fitted in June.
Nice to see a tastefully modified R. Me likey.
Wait till you drive a stage 3 golf r or a forged motor one another level up and you’d enjoy one with a TVS dsg tune!
Good review good content defo gets a thumbs up
sounds like the perfect Golf to me
Alot of money to spend ..
Still looks like any 80s Japanese econobox. I would expect a little more for the money.
To be honest, I like the fact it looks just like a standard R. That adds to the appeal, rather than turning it into a chavved up McDonald's cruisemobile.
The money was spent on things that actually improve the car (not what I'd do myself, but each to their own), rather than show off cosmetics.
@@andrewmcivor42 i would expect a little style and standout for the money. If KIA, Hyundai, Honda and even Toyota can manage it, surely VW can.
The Stinger has it all, for less money.
@@gone547 a). What's a Stinger? b). That completely missed the point of a Golf R - it's supposed to be a "Q" car - if you want show off styling with a Golf, get a GTi. and C). It isn't a standard VW car anyway - the mods are aftermarket. Personally, I'd spend the money on stuff that matters, other than stuff to pose in
@@andrewmcivor42 with all the offerings available today, the only true 'Q' car these days is an unmarked police car as you will soon find out if you street race or indulge in traffic light derbies.
If I wanted a shoebox I would visit the nearest shoe shop and I wouldn't wate time and money trying to turn it into a chocolate box.
What's a Stinger, you ask. Well, it's a GT that ticks all/all the boxes in one go for less money and a longer warranty. The biggest advantage is you don't have to have a little dick to own one and then spend a fortune trying to make it bigger.
@@gone547 what a ridiculous reply.
Couldn't stand the racket of that exhaust....... glad that car doesn't live near me
I hated the kick down on my R, one of the big let downs on the stock car. I am thinking about buying another 7.5 and modding it
Just needs a pedalbox and an alcantara steering wheel to freshen up the cabin 😎
That would be nice
Good vid Andrew 👍
Crazy car! probably a track weapon!
Hi there...make sure thats no a meths tank on the front...it was on the one I won off Calvin's car diary.that was 600 bhp on race fuel and 550 on v power....wowww. did incorporate a new turbo also...check out arhers 600bhp golf on you tube.CRAZY.🤣🤣🤣👍
You won a Golf R?
@@JoJoJoker yes...check out calvin on Calvin's car diary...it was a 25 pound raffle..originally Arthur's 600 bhp build also on UA-cam.cheers
great video thank you.
What Bilstein kit did he used?
He says in the video, bilstein b16 coilovers
Yep, I've missed that bit, thanks!
@@thecrazycomputer001 no worries 👍
Gfb are highly rated 👌👌
Good to know, thanks
Well, I now feel justified for buying the calender
11k of mods 🤣 - should of purchased a better base car to begin with. RS3 would of been a better start point
Short Answer: YES!:)....
I'm like yourself, I find the R too boring and not as exciting as the GTI. But when they're done right, they're brilliant cars!
I think with AWD you have a lot of potential there, above 300 on GTI and you just won't be able to use, 395 hp yesterday in greasy wintery conditions and it was totally fine as the launch showed, want to try 500 next!
@@volkswizard Of course, having that ability to throw the power down is great. But it takes away the fun, like you say, it's to easy to do it all so it takes so much drama away. I can imagine, when done right and setup correctly, they're a lot of fun! Hoping to get myself a Clubsport or a nice GTI Performance this year, you do sourcing of vehicles?
Obviously that a golf r with stage 2 Will be more funniest than the gti that is fwd
Nearly missed this video Mr C, the thumbnail style was like that Arse Hamilton 😉 Glad the content wasn’t
That Arse Hamilton can't be doing it all wrong can he though?
what wheels did you put on it?
Where did you see one going for 10k??
I took one in px for £10k recently, it was what the owner wanted for it so I paid it. 2014 manual 5 door black, 80k miles, no options, needed some minor tidying but 1 owner from new and FVWSH
@@volkswizard a lot of car for the money
No I’d still have the tcr 🥰
Mk7 R dsg was the worst vw I’ve ever had (from 8 of
Them ) hated it - only had it a year. Interesting video as my choice was either to spend this much to make it more drivable - especially the gearbox which was shite, or to buy a 7.5 gti pp - manual , for less £ - which is what i did and I absolutely love it. Best one so far 🥰
Surprised with your conclusion there, surely the MK4 2.0 is the best?? 😁😁😁😉
sadly I have driven a Mk4 2.0 and I can't even think what it could be the best at? The best GTI for not driving or looking like a GTI? The best GTI for consuming oil? Bad times...
@@volkswizardsorry, I was being facetious. Only the diesels and the V6's were decent in the MK4 (in my opinion)
Very nice.
The R wagons gunna feel a bit meh after this!
Oh, not a 3 door. No interest!
I think on this occasion it's worth putting the doors to one side as the rest of it makes up for that (and it's got enough grunt now to make up their extra weight!)
@@volkswizard I hear you. However, I don't. I simply will not and never have owned a car with more than two side doors. And I'm 52 (not 22).
Just far too much power, where can you safely drive it at its limit ? Not on the road
Give me my Up Gti any day of the week.
Andrew has said before, even the stock R, you can have some real fun in it, but at silly speeds. Which is just not viable, not for me anyway, I want to be able to have fun at legal speeds.
Well...
1. Many slower cars are far less safe
2. Many cars are faster in factory form
Slow Aveo these mods keep it on the road. It’s following the law....of nature.
@@JoJoJoker Well yes! Doesn't mean you won't get nicked though ;)
You cant drive ANY care at its limit on the road. All cars should be limited to 70mh by your logic
Awesome vid Andrew!
Glad you enjoyed it Russ, thanks!