Yeah running over a hard packed icy lake is enough to burn the hyfax sliders on a snowmobile. Have had a 2002 Edge X 600 and if you aint get enough snow in the tunnel for cooling it shuts down in ignition mode to some kind of limp mode. I know that people have put a extra radiator + electric fan in the front when doing stuff like this. And sprayed the sliders with a whole lot of WD40 or likewise.
This is some old legendary video on some hoonigans in my old hometown on a "Polaris Edge" in city traffic at night: ua-cam.com/video/wYjTTtsxoFc/v-deo.html They modded the machine with a extra cooler and fan infront. Dont know how they did with the lubricant on the hyfax. Anyhow 1:00 minute in the video they drive past the local police station. =P
Cool stuff! My father had a setup called "snowmowheels" installed on his 1970 Arctic Cat Panther. Track and skis removed and a full frame 3 wheel was bolted up. It was fully registered as a motorcycle and he rode it to work daily in summer. Took off the kit and back to snow for winter. This brought back memories.
Wheel snowmobile, have converted 800 Polaris with reverse using tall Snowblower wheels, 5/8 th inch ready rod very simple, and useful in around gold claim for short work pulling trailers and transportation, used copper pipe for bering over 5/8 th inch ready rod inside rim works great, and crosses very rough terrain, and beaks trail nicely.
Awesome video! Snowmobiles can drive on sand, gravel, etc. You just need the special track and slides for it. As for cooling, It is liquid cooled. Probably has a fan on it to cool it or the tunnel type system. It didn't overheat so it seems like it has sufficient cooling. I had a 440 2 cylinder snowmobile engine on a polaris trailblazer and those quads are friggin huge! It was really fast, did wheelies and I didn't need an adapter it fit in with the original transmission. Traded it though for a Honda NX250 dirt bike.
Penney Fabrication, Midland Michigan did this in the 60's and held a patent for a kit for the Polaris 440. The kit had real wheels in place of the track. He also held a patent for a forward/reversing transmission. Tried to sell it to Honda but never got it done. This was my grand father.
I can tell you you have no idea how much fun this is until you try it yourself. My friend did the same thing a few years back was tons of fun but you really have to add a radiator and fan to ride it more that 10-15 mins before the overheat light comes on, your gonna go thru tracks too, but they lasted pretty long on dirt for us, only crossing roads sometimes and one or two drag races down the asphalt. He got the sled for $500 with an extra track with it. Doesn't snow much where I live so they can be had super cheap.
Just a quick FYI - Track will need Lithium Grease to protect it. Also, the engine is liquid cooled (Unless it's fan. Dunno) And is cooled by a tunnel radiator that uses snow. Sooo. Yeah. Don't blow it up from overheating or from the track blowing off and you getting seriously injured.
It's definitely a liquid cooled, saw the motor for a second at the end, couldn't tell what cc it is though. An XC500 or bigger should have no problem hitting 65mph though, so the must've melted the slides pretty good for it to take that long to hit 65. The XC500'S(smallest liquid XC's) should hit at least 90mph. Won't be long til the rings are melted though.
The radiator is above the track under the seat and it’s cooled by the track kicking snow up onto the radiator. So this isn’t such a good idea, it’ll run hot as hell and seize up.
That's cool man, I made one of these back in 1978 out of a rupp, kept on twisting the frame and the chain kept popping off, so we put the bogie wheels back on, that damn thing was a tractor, climb any hill around.
Well, you guys convinced me that snowmobiles are the best vehicle ever. I'm selling my ATV and buying a snowmobile in the middle of Las Vegas. I'll show everybody I know what a snowmobile can do when you slap some wheels on the front!
And they have multi terrain tracks and even tarmack tracks these are why spyders were created but that terrain is no worse that riding a hard ice and snow filled track I'd say the terrain is comparable to the winter so it's very convincing to do this for summer trailing for sure wash out the track after each run krown all the components to slow rust build
I had an older Polaris Indy with a 433cc engine given to me last week.. winter's over and it runs awesome with low miles so I put wheels on the front and it was easy to do and it is fun as hell to ride and goes from 0-60 much faster than a typical quad.. ppl look at me like I'm crazy when I ride it
AWESOME IDEA turning a seasonal vehicle into an all rounder! I mean it basically makes it all the more value BUT Id suggest your fabrication methods step up a notch and what is with quenching the weld like that dude you want it to break?
the things the tred is riding on is called "slides". when not cooled / "lubricated" by snow, they get worned out really fast. it is the slides that is sissling when they pour water on them. that is why this is not a regular thing.... awsome but not practical
That really doesn't work so well your heat exchangers no longer working you need to put a radiator on it because all you're doing is basically demolishing that engine every time you run it because it has no cooling system and that suspension is set up to be constant lubricated with snow however they do make suspension kits that are designed specifically for use on asphalt this is not a new idea it's actually very very old they drag race snowmobiles on drag strips all the time
Exactly. I'm wondering how long it lasted. Then again, I'm pretty sure these guys are finnish. Which is an old world English term for "Zero Fucks Given" !
Engines come as both aircooled and liquidcooled engines. Aircooled engines (usually below 500cc) only have a fan to keep them cool, meaning they can run whatever seasons, while liquid cooled engines have a radiator placed between the seat and the tracks where snow can collect. The bigger problem is the slides, which are 1m/3feet long plastic bits that the tracks glide against in the boggy. Rubber tracks gliding on plastic causes friction, and they can melt if not cooled by snow. That's why you see in the movie they spray the boggy with cold water.
yes snowmobiles need snow to cool them down because what happens is the snow goes up into the tunnel underneath the back of the sled and hits the tunnel radiator and cools them down without that snow you can overheat the engine and it can cause serious damage to the engine such as cylinder scoring piston damage and piston ring damage wrist pin and connecting rod bearing damage which would lead to you having to replace the crank as well or have it rebuilt so this is a Polaris XC in this video and yes it does have a liquid-cooled engine which needs snow to cool it down but there are other makes and models from Yamaha Polaris and Ski Doo and Arctic Cat that do not require snow to cool them down because they are air cooled engines and they have heat sinks around the cylinders and a fan that pulls air through those heat sinks to cool them down and that is pretty much the simple version to answer your question if you have anymore questions just go ahead and message me thank you
You should have done the offroad test... BEFORE the drift test. It looks like you left most of your traction on the asphalt back at the drift test. You could literally see rubber spraying out from under that track while drifting. LoL
Easy man carefull how you reply to other people. It was only a thought, and as your probably know, some people just do this stuff not knowing how much of a money pit they get into.
Awesome sled bike! They have been doing this as well in Canada since the early 80’s. I’ve always wondered why it never caught on everywhere else. Great video!
Yep, that exactly what I was going to say. They could also come up with some way to lube the sliders similar to a chainsaw oiler but they could oil it with dish soap.
well it won't be long now before they blow a head gasket or melt down the top of the motor and destroy the suspension in the back I would highly recommend that you put a radiator on that sled because I know for a fact that is not an air-cooled engine it's liquid cooled and if there's no snow going up in the tunnel it will heat up very fast and you can cause some very significant damage to the engine
DRAKE FORCE I do not doubt your knowledge in the art of keeping a engine alive... Im sure you´re knowledge in the subject is above averedge. What i mean is just: Have a laugh and chill! Sorry if i offended you, that was not my purpose at all! Best regards/ Jimmy
+J1I9M7M4Y it's okay you did not offend me it's just I thought I was going to have to argue with another person you know how some people are on UA-cam and I shouldn't have jumped at you like that I am sorry that was uncalled for
@@boostedboys2342 how? The part where the track is being pulled from is in front of where the rider sits? It would need a chain and gear. And all the hardware. Lots of welding. That isn't easy dip shit. It can be done, but not easy.
Many years ago in my area there were actually off road races in fields with snowmobiles modified like yours. So nothing new but maybe for your generation. But I am 71 so this was roughly 40 years or so ago. I always wondered how long the belts lasted being used like you were on pavement and off roading on gravel. How long to you figure the belt will last using the way you do? I always thought the drive systems on snowmobiles required snow to cool and lubricate them for longer long? Have you ever thought about trying to make a rear axle to mount wheels and tires on? I had seen one on UA-cam and it was pretty neat but not as professional looking as your build. Neat O
To become old and wise,you have to have been young and foolish! I am old and wise! I feel you 2 will also become old and wise!!!! Great mod,stuff the haters!!!
Track was designed to lubricate and cool with snow. Running it dry will eventually cause heat and friction breakdown. Running it in water is ok.
Yeah running over a hard packed icy lake is enough to burn the hyfax sliders on a snowmobile.
Have had a 2002 Edge X 600 and if you aint get enough snow in the tunnel for cooling it shuts down in ignition mode to some kind of limp mode.
I know that people have put a extra radiator + electric fan in the front when doing stuff like this. And sprayed the sliders with a whole lot of WD40 or likewise.
This is some old legendary video on some hoonigans in my old hometown on a "Polaris Edge" in city traffic at night:
ua-cam.com/video/wYjTTtsxoFc/v-deo.html
They modded the machine with a extra cooler and fan infront. Dont know how they did with the lubricant on the hyfax.
Anyhow 1:00 minute in the video they drive past the local police station. =P
HenkeEdge
Nice
Cool stuff! My father had a setup called "snowmowheels" installed on his 1970 Arctic Cat Panther. Track and skis removed and a full frame 3 wheel was bolted up. It was fully registered as a motorcycle and he rode it to work daily in summer. Took off the kit and back to snow for winter. This brought back memories.
Wheel snowmobile, have converted 800 Polaris with reverse using tall Snowblower wheels, 5/8 th inch ready rod very simple, and useful in around gold claim for short work pulling trailers and transportation, used copper pipe for bering over 5/8 th inch ready rod inside rim works great, and crosses very rough terrain, and beaks trail nicely.
Awesome video! Snowmobiles can drive on sand, gravel, etc. You just need the special track and slides for it. As for cooling, It is liquid cooled. Probably has a fan on it to cool it or the tunnel type system. It didn't overheat so it seems like it has sufficient cooling. I had a 440 2 cylinder snowmobile engine on a polaris trailblazer and those quads are friggin huge! It was really fast, did wheelies and I didn't need an adapter it fit in with the original transmission. Traded it though for a Honda NX250 dirt bike.
Impressed with how well that actually worked Haha.
CanadianRandom they use to sell these as kits in Quebec back in the day.
Penney Fabrication, Midland Michigan did this in the 60's and held a patent for a kit for the Polaris 440. The kit had real wheels in place of the track. He also held a patent for a forward/reversing transmission. Tried to sell it to Honda but never got it done. This was my grand father.
Used Polaris XC for sale. Never abused, never overheated. Ran on groomed trails only.
I can tell you you have no idea how much fun this is until you try it yourself. My friend did the same thing a few years back was tons of fun but you really have to add a radiator and fan to ride it more that 10-15 mins before the overheat light comes on, your gonna go thru tracks too, but they lasted pretty long on dirt for us, only crossing roads sometimes and one or two drag races down the asphalt. He got the sled for $500 with an extra track with it. Doesn't snow much where I live so they can be had super cheap.
It's now an All terrain "snowmowheel" 😂😂😂 that thing is amazing👌
Thats good name 👍🏻👍🏻
+Pihvi It would be awesome if they gave it that name 👍👍👍
+Chris 👍👍👍
you know your addicted to snowmobiling when.... you make it drivable for summer
Finally a snow mobile I can drive in Australia
Half snowmobile Half atv Full awesome :D
Wow this is amazing!i bet this was alot of fun building and riding!!!good job guys
Just a quick FYI - Track will need Lithium Grease to protect it. Also, the engine is liquid cooled (Unless it's fan. Dunno) And is cooled by a tunnel radiator that uses snow. Sooo. Yeah. Don't blow it up from overheating or from the track blowing off and you getting seriously injured.
It's definitely a liquid cooled, saw the motor for a second at the end, couldn't tell what cc it is though. An XC500 or bigger should have no problem hitting 65mph though, so the must've melted the slides pretty good for it to take that long to hit 65. The XC500'S(smallest liquid XC's) should hit at least 90mph. Won't be long til the rings are melted though.
+Jason Jaeger it's a 500 liberty
The radiator is above the track under the seat and it’s cooled by the track kicking snow up onto the radiator. So this isn’t such a good idea, it’ll run hot as hell and seize up.
so what, its a piece of junk snowmobile
I live in Florida and I've been wanting to do this but thank you I was wondering if they implicate weather in cooling
@@tetrahydrocanibonol your welcome.
@@tetrahydrocanibonol if you buy an old air-cooled sled it won't overheat. Plus they're cheap. I don't know if there are many in Florida though haha.
@@andrewthacker1389 we dont have sleds in Florida unless some snow bird brings one down here in the move lol
That's cool man, I made one of these back in 1978 out of a rupp, kept on twisting the frame and the chain kept popping off, so we put the bogie wheels back on, that damn thing was a tractor, climb any hill around.
What about the sliders burning up.
Well, you guys convinced me that snowmobiles are the best vehicle ever. I'm selling my ATV and buying a snowmobile in the middle of Las Vegas. I'll show everybody I know what a snowmobile can do when you slap some wheels on the front!
Acerracer202 breaking it
Nevada and surrounding states have Mountains.. which means snow! I am sure a few people in vegas have sleds.
Maybe add a removable radiator, against overheating,
if you're driving it in town, below the mountains
i am supprised u dont overheat it, but still very cool
Dude thank you,thank you for making my life better,i always watch your videos and i just love them.Keep up the good work
It's funny I did a search on UA-cam for Snowville with wheels in the front because this idea seems like a great idea to me great job guys
Super easy and fun! 😁 do it!
Juste incroyable, magnifique !!!!!
Say goodbye to the sliders, and the cooling system
man im pretty sure they dont give a fuck its just a sled they used for the video and if it gets destroyed who the hell cares lmao
Welcome to my laboratory where safety is number 1 priority.
Ha
Would make a great engine for a go cart or a off road buggy
an off-road buggy*
finnaly something that wears down the middle of the track 😂😂
Say goodbye to your slides and track
man im pretty sure they dont give a fuck its just a sled they used for the video and if it gets destroyed who the hell cares lmao
Chris B it’s a old Polaris
And they have multi terrain tracks and even tarmack tracks these are why spyders were created but that terrain is no worse that riding a hard ice and snow filled track I'd say the terrain is comparable to the winter so it's very convincing to do this for summer trailing for sure wash out the track after each run krown all the components to slow rust build
Not a new idea; was done in the 70's, but it is nice to see someone try it again.
The engine will overheat, the sliders will melt, and the track will be shredded after the first trail ride.
Looks cool, though.
Almost unstoppable off-road. Guys, I think you just invented a new sport.
The most fun you can have with your pants on and a welder!!! 👌👌
I had an older Polaris Indy with a 433cc engine given to me last week.. winter's over and it runs awesome with low miles so I put wheels on the front and it was easy to do and it is fun as hell to ride and goes from 0-60 much faster than a typical quad.. ppl look at me like I'm crazy when I ride it
Todd Peace they look at you like your crazy because you’re wrecking the track slides. And if it’s liquid cooled its definitely running hot.
Now you only need to replace the sliders with rollers so that your track frame does not get destroyed by lack of lubrication.
back in early 70's a kit was available & you also had rear wheels to install in place of track using drive cogs to power rear wheels.
hahaha.. this video is sooo freaking GOOD... I want one!!!!
Ohhh yeaahh... =]
AWESOME IDEA turning a seasonal vehicle into an all rounder! I mean it basically makes it all the more value BUT Id suggest your fabrication methods step up a notch and what is with quenching the weld like that dude you want it to break?
It will seize up heat exchanger needs snow to cool the engine like a radiator
The dirt will cool it off don't worry 😂
omg :D in SFT garage is everything possible :D best video so far for me :D good job guys
It's a snowmowheels!😆
God damn that sky is beautiful
How long before the engine and sliders burn out ?
snowmobiles are the best offroaders lol
the things the tred is riding on is called "slides". when not cooled / "lubricated" by snow, they get worned out really fast. it is the slides that is sissling when they pour water on them. that is why this is not a regular thing.... awsome but not practical
Good job guys-I really enjoyed your video !!!
Old idea..... John Deere made wheel kits for their snowmobiles back in 1970s.
I think Snowmowheels is a good name for this machine !
That really doesn't work so well your heat exchangers no longer working you need to put a radiator on it because all you're doing is basically demolishing that engine every time you run it because it has no cooling system and that suspension is set up to be constant lubricated with snow however they do make suspension kits that are designed specifically for use on asphalt this is not a new idea it's actually very very old they drag race snowmobiles on drag strips all the time
Ok, now I've gotta find a snowmobile.
the problem with it being used without snow is the engine overheat. have you done anything with that?
i think it is a fan cooled
it would have to have more mods than a fan
Exactly. I'm wondering how long it lasted. Then again, I'm pretty sure these guys are finnish. Which is an old world English term for "Zero Fucks Given" !
The fan isn't a mod, it's a factory fan cooled sled. There are no heat exchangers in the tunnel like a liquid cooled sled would have.
that's bad ass I'm a new sub just found yalls channel
dont snow mobiles need the cold snow to keep the engine from over heating? or are they the old type,??
Engines come as both aircooled and liquidcooled engines. Aircooled engines (usually below 500cc) only have a fan to keep them cool, meaning they can run whatever seasons, while liquid cooled engines have a radiator placed between the seat and the tracks where snow can collect.
The bigger problem is the slides, which are 1m/3feet long plastic bits that the tracks glide against in the boggy. Rubber tracks gliding on plastic causes friction, and they can melt if not cooled by snow. That's why you see in the movie they spray the boggy with cold water.
+DevilizerHimself yea I was thinking about how the plastic slides will be dead
yes snowmobiles need snow to cool them down because what happens is the snow goes up into the tunnel underneath the back of the sled and hits the tunnel radiator and cools them down without that snow you can overheat the engine and it can cause serious damage to the engine such as cylinder scoring piston damage and piston ring damage wrist pin and connecting rod bearing damage which would lead to you having to replace the crank as well or have it rebuilt so this is a Polaris XC in this video and yes it does have a liquid-cooled engine which needs snow to cool it down but there are other makes and models from Yamaha Polaris and Ski Doo and Arctic Cat that do not require snow to cool them down because they are air cooled engines and they have heat sinks around the cylinders and a fan that pulls air through those heat sinks to cool them down and that is pretty much the simple version to answer your question if you have anymore questions just go ahead and message me thank you
Holy crap. Punctuation.
I bet those sliders are lovin it
Awesome! How melted where those slides after that tho?. And any belt left at all? xD
What slides? Arent they replaces by wheels?
My dad made one for us kids back in the late 70's! We called it half track.
You should have done the offroad test... BEFORE the drift test. It looks like you left most of your traction on the asphalt back at the drift test. You could literally see rubber spraying out from under that track while drifting. LoL
this is literally how ATVs came to be
Slides must last about 20 mins
man im pretty sure they dont give a fuck its just a sled they used for the video and if it gets destroyed who the hell cares lmao
Awesome video once again. Keep it up guys :D
How does your track not break lol
Thats pretty dang cool, great job.
I have the same thing, its called a CanAm Spyder doof.
looks like amazing fun. good job fellas :)
Reminds me of trailer park boys tv show full send
Trailer Park Boys The Movie, Cory n trevor
It's the snowmowheeler!
How come everyone is commenting in 2019 and this video came out 2016 😂😂😂😂
youtube has a amazing recommendation system
James Dell'Aquila ya ikr
jag har alltid undrat om det där har gått att göra och nu fick jag svaret skit bra video
I wonder if they know how expensive those tracks are to buy and replace...
plus the sliders
Aaron Allred of fucking course the do. this is a god damn proof of concept and for fun. Jesus Christ you people are so dumb
Easy man carefull how you reply to other people. It was only a thought, and as your probably know, some people just do this stuff not knowing how much of a money pit they get into.
Awesome sled bike! They have been doing this as well in Canada since the early 80’s. I’ve always wondered why it never caught on everywhere else. Great video!
now all you need is a radiator (sleds dont have one) nd to take off the plastic sliders and add mor idler whels
needs some eurobeat to make it drift better
+antsolja honestly, that too!
Yep, that exactly what I was going to say. They could also come up with some way to lube the sliders similar to a chainsaw oiler but they could oil it with dish soap.
+Steven Vanheel hey, ive seen that on a sled i found at a junkyard once, except it was used motor oil
that ride looks so cool ;D
well it won't be long now before they blow a head gasket or melt down the top of the motor and destroy the suspension in the back I would highly recommend that you put a radiator on that sled because I know for a fact that is not an air-cooled engine it's liquid cooled and if there's no snow going up in the tunnel it will heat up very fast and you can cause some very significant damage to the engine
Bla bla bla bla bla.. Don´t you think they know all that? They are from Finland and everybody from Finland is a freaking motor genius!
+J1I9M7M4Y how long have you been around in this world because you should know how dumb some people are
DRAKE FORCE I do not doubt your knowledge in the art of keeping a engine alive... Im sure you´re knowledge in the subject is above averedge. What i mean is just: Have a laugh and chill! Sorry if i offended you, that was not my purpose at all!
Best regards/ Jimmy
+J1I9M7M4Y it's okay you did not offend me it's just I thought I was going to have to argue with another person you know how some people are on UA-cam and I shouldn't have jumped at you like that I am sorry that was uncalled for
DRAKE FORCE No worry´s. Peace! ;)
so how are you keeping it cool? always an issue in the summer.
Derek Gilbert liquid cooled
No cooling will toast the engine.
That is super awesome wheel!!!!!!
STV - snow terrain vehicle
Danny Murphy
ATSV - All Terrain Snow Vehicle
that is pretty sick man! :)
They won’t over heat I have a 97 440 Zr cat and it has a cooling system
Sunny Santino you still need cold air to cool it and if it’s liquid cooled you need snow
@Nimbus Nimbus What nimbus said
also, get a 30gal drum of ice water and carry it on the back and run small hoses to the slides. done it before, works ok
Doesn't it overheat?
There is a fan with a pulley built on the side of the engine
Neat All-Terrain-Snowmobile!
Would this be bad for the snowmobile? I have a 1985 tundra LT and I want to try this
Is it air cooled? Might have an issue with that
+Ethan I figured that by the 100hp title, but wasn't positive. Still quick sleds, sespecially for a 500. My Pro XR 440 was a very quick sled.
I can imagine the slides burning
should try that with the old yamaha vmax 800 ,it had a rad on the front,all you'd need is to add a fan.
I am guessing the track burned up really fast
Change the angle of the track that drives the "trailmobile" and you'll get better traction.
(Keep having fun guys - it keeps you young.)
Now it's an easy swap to tires in the back as well
Not even close pal
@@marcpp for one not your pal and two yes it fucking is dip shit
@@boostedboys2342 how? The part where the track is being pulled from is in front of where the rider sits? It would need a chain and gear. And all the hardware. Lots of welding. That isn't easy dip shit. It can be done, but not easy.
@@brandenjoseph604 fuck off I could do it in a weekend with a parts quad or three wheeler yeah some welding and ingenuity. It would come together
OMFG The New WheelMobile! ?
That whole sled is toast, suspension, track and engine all fried for 30 minutes of fun.
logpile13 I put wheels on a vintage Polaris Indy 440 and ride it for a few hours everyday and the dam thing has been very reliable
Todd Peace ok, good luck.
It was given to me for free and winter's over but I wanted to ride.. I don't beat the hell out of mine like these guys did tho
Surprised it didn't overheat? How long till the track was gone?
I hope they get the track blowing up on camera 😁
that forest road looks like the most amazing place for riding dirtbikes and quadbikes :DD
What about colling get a air coled engine
Nice job guys great machine
Bruh this thing is like if an ATV or quad had a baby with a snowmobile and, a jet ski was this thing's weird 3rd cousin.
Many years ago in my area there were actually off road races in fields with snowmobiles modified like yours. So nothing new but maybe for your generation. But I am 71 so this was roughly 40 years or so ago. I always wondered how long the belts lasted being used like you were on pavement and off roading on gravel. How long to you figure the belt will last using the way you do? I always thought the drive systems on snowmobiles required snow to cool and lubricate them for longer long?
Have you ever thought about trying to make a rear axle to mount wheels and tires on? I had seen one on UA-cam and it was pretty neat but not as professional looking as your build. Neat O
Dirt mobile is a good name
that's good for the track. the track needs snow to keep the rollers clean and cool if they get to hot it starts burning the track
To become old and wise,you have to have been young and foolish! I am old and wise!
I feel you 2 will also become old and wise!!!!
Great mod,stuff the haters!!!
Nicely done.