Is Stable Diffusion WebUI Forge Just Plain Better Than A1111 WebUI?
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2024
- Stable-Diffusion-WebUI-Forge is just plain better than Automatic1111. There. I said it :p Why? Well, performance and resource usage to start with. Even better still, some of the oldest bugs related to model loading have gone, plus you get loads of stuff just built right in! All that complete with the familiar A1111 WebUI gradio interface. Sure seems better to me!
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Finally an UI for us who are not full-time unemployed in order to master ComfyUI
I think the frustration comes from tutorial youtuber keep gaslighting by saying "easier/simple"
I had just installed this fork and I'd definitely be interested in seeing a video of you exploring some of these built-in features further :) Some really cool stuff in here.
Holy shit. I no joke was about to go install automatic1111 since I haven't used in a year or so since I have fallen in love with instantid, but this is awesome!!! Hope it's easy to set up and use I know what I'm doing this afternoon. Thanks!
While I'll definitely be giving this a go, I've never had the issues you mention with A1111 but that's me. This Forge does come with some nice features built in and the other plus side is that settings will easily transfer across, along with a couple of extensions that aren't default. Nice one.
haha I thought A1111 just got screwed up after using it for a while. I didn't know it was from changing models, thanks!!
Long time user of A1111 and ComfyUI, i'm truly impressed. You can run turbo models, generating 832x1024 in less than a second on 3090 but even better, you can crank up to 1640x2048, generate in less than 5 seconds and no VRAM implosion. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to change branch on my original a1111 though, i run forge on a new install, just symlinked my models and extension folders. Just wow 🎉
I can do the same on a 3060, this is definitely the new go to WebUI for me
@@xXxDisplayNamexXx don't remove a1111 yet, deforum and animatediff are not fully working in forge.
@@DrMacabre what folders did you symlink?
@@PunxTV123the whole "models", i ended up leaving a1111 extension alone as some are specific for forge like animatediff.
interesting. what i'd like to know is what makes Forge that faster ? is there any drawback to it ? is it forced non-deterministic 'x-formers' ot things like that, or is it
definitely faster with the same parameters vs comfyui & A1111 ?
I love the humor in your voice! It always gives me a good mood.
Looks interesting, I hardly use a1111 these days, preferring comfyi but I will check this out
This is really nice - works way faster with my 8GB VRAM ! Thank you ! 👍👍👍
Would you say it's comparable to fooocus?
Glad to hear it!
@@NerdyRodent Hey Nerdy, how does performance compare to comfy? And do you prefer this ui over comfy atm?
amazing! thanks for always bring nice tips and tricks nerdy!
Thanks, followed the Ananconder install video first and then this and was able to install it using the full install method with no issues. I've not used Anaconda before and been using portables. Might have to do the same with ComfyUI as I'm guess it has the same pros.
Great overview video!! I am trying to figure out where to place upscale models... do you know folder location?
Thanks rodent. I will try it.
Your voice is so amazing , you deserve to be a movie actor
I hope Stability matrix adds this package.
I can't believe it!!! thank you! i have a poor RTX3050 4GB VRAM, since the last A1111, i can run the sdxl but for generating a single image it was used to take about 10 minutes. Now with this release, an image will be generated in 2 minutes!! JUST WOW!! JUST THANK YOU
2 min is still too much may be sticking to comfyui
yes. depend of your hardware. maybe in your case it's better. but for my case comfyui it's pretty slow. Personally i like ComfyUi, but (for now at least) ForgeUi, gives me better performance (for my case and uses)@@anushdsouza9632
Sounds like you're generating from your CPU. I was making sd15 images with me RX570 4GB which is much older than your 3050, and it only took me 40 seconds, and that's using the DirectML version which is even slower than using CUDA.
wait.. are you talking about SDXL right? but i've now remade the calculation, it tooks 1 minute and 20 sec.. for a SDXL 1280x968 and adetailer enabled@@z1mt0n1x2
@@z1mt0n1x2How can I run Forge with Amd card?
@Nerdy Rodent do you know if WebUI forge works with G-Prompter i dont wanna stop using G-Prompter atm im using it with UI/UX depending on how it works with WebUI Forge i might switch to that instead
I installed it and it is indeed better and faster. Only one thing I didn't realize to get:
I just wanted to try "ip-Adapter" in ControlNet, but I can't find the "ip-adapter_face_id_plus" Preprocessor because - I think - it is not updated to the last version. How can I update CN to the last version?
I tried to intstall CN also but it keeps disabled because there is CN already integrated. Any idea please?
I already saved the ip-Adapter models in the integrated CN Models folder, but the "Preprocessor" which is "ip-adapter_face_id_plus" isn't showing up.
Is it possible to download it maybe then upload it in a specific folder inside WebUI Forge folder?
I'm having the same issue. I hadn't thought of it not being updated but I think my Forge ControlNet version is higher than my A1111 version - I'll have to double check as they aren't the exact same extension now.
I was assuming the preprocessor wasn't being picked up because it was in the wrong folder but putting it in built-in ControlNet folders didn't solve anything. Please shout up if you find a solution and I'll do the same. 🙂
BTW, there are downloads for it under one of Sebastian Kamph's latest vids.
@@Elwaves2925 having the same issue!
@@saranmt1 It's listed as a high priority bug on the github, so there's nothing we ca do for now. It may already be fixed if I can understand github correctly but it's not released yet. Keep checking there for an update. 🙂
u need to change .bin to .pth
Hey Mr @Nerdy Rodant where do we put the control net models? Pretty please.
when changing model cmd crash. i have to lunch it every time i change model. any help?
Hi, I have a question for you that might be a good idea for your next content.
I'm new to using Automatic1111 and the file size is getting bigger, around 40GB. I'm using ControlNet and have downloaded the extension or model seg, depth, etc. for ControlNet.
When I use depth and see the preview of the depth image, will it download again in the CMD section? I thought that once I had downloaded parts of ControlNet like depth, seg, etc., it wouldn't download again, but it turns out it still downloads other parts in CMD. This also applies to extensions. Is that how it works? Or will it only download the remaining parts in CMD when using depth, etc. for the first time?
How the hell do we keep up? LOL I'm on my 4th UI for SD in 120 days? Dizzy...🙃
Crazy, isn't it? Exciting though, no doubt!
You don't. You find the one that works for what you want, then keep using that. You only change when something comes along with a must have feature or update you don't have. That way you only change every so often.
Heh, the awesome world of state of the art software. If it makes it better, think that text generation moves even faster than image generation. A new texgen ui comes out every day, it looks like.
Learn the skills, not the software.
Just don't switch to every kew thing but rather have an interval where you update your environment, like 4 months
Hey NR, do you scripts your videos? Or work in sections and edit as you go?
THX for this, much appreciated ! I just can't get use to the spaghetti comfy-ui even if it's much better so for me this is sweet music. I have tested it a bit and surely, it's faster (running on a 4090) and the ability to use masking in controlnet is fantastic. Thanks and I hope you post some more on WebUI Forge...
Even after almost 5 months with no updates. Forge is still MUCH faster than A1111. In my case for exactly the same task - it's a factor of about 5 or 6 times.
Same sampling method, images, model, weights etc 3070 RTX
4 minutes Vs 50 seconds.
It's amazing just how slow A1111 still is. 5 months and they haven't caught up at all.
I wanted to switch to ComfyUi. Do you still recomend using comfy when forge is released? (I have A1111 skill)
I use both. I would recommend diving into Comfy Ui because you can learn a lot about backend settings and control over every aspect of AI image rendering
@@PaulByrd1 and what about speed? Thanks
Holy crap, I've been using Easy Diffusion, because well it was an easy one click install, I figured my old 2080 Super was the reason for how slow it was, This runs circles around it. 2 to 3 minute single image generations, are now completing in like 20 to 30 seconds. And my GPU now actually sounds like it's cranking into high gear when I run it. And it doesn't absolutely hog my VRAM. This is such an upgrade.
thanks for making this tutorial and bringing this new alternative to our attention. I was going thru their repo. It is very tempting. Will give it a bit more time to mature before forging ahead.
this repo is as functional as the original one, try it now.
@@AlbertoCasanova okay
@@AlbertoCasanova I need to safe hd space! Should I delete my a1111 and install Forge ?
I like your sense of humour, great video :-) I'm getting roughly a 50% speed boost on my RTX 3070
Hm, Photomaker doesn't seem to work at all. How did you get it to run?
Some charitable soul to teach you how to use the A1111 repository, I've done everything changing it on the web notepad and I couldn't!
Thanks for this. What's the quickest way to create a shortcut to open this, instead of typing the path? When I click directly on the .bat, I get an error. Also, oddly enough, this isn't any faster than atuo111. Running a 4080 super.
Regular A1111 had issues. VRam spiking and crashing the program and parts of old model retained. This Forge variant controls the memory much better, with no more spikes and no more crashes. The previous model is now completely cleared and there is indeed a speed improvement, in my case of around 20 percent, making it slightly faster than even Comfy now. I'm very happy with Forge.
Is the download file a portable file then? Can i fownload it and use it form an external SSD?
WOW! ....very cool! I share your enthusiasm!
what kind of program you use for symbolic link ?
You can create symbolic links in the CMD with mklink command lines
Actually huge thanks to video maker, Installed this webui Forge and it is indeed AMAZING!!
Simply marvelous!
you have any video on showing how to link the auto files to forge to use it?
Been using it for a few days now and I'm completely converted.
Been testing a bunch of UIs and Forge is the real deal, really polished.
any advice on how to resolve lora and adetailer slowdowns? loras can take 4x or longer to render.
Well done my friend, thank you for that, I was facing like 97% and crashes on my Nvidia 1650 Ti on a Dell Laptop now I have at top 70% and runs much more faster, thank you so much
Thank you. Q: Is there a way yet to create video within local Vladmandic or anything local?
Yes, colab is a remote Linux system that can be used without a local install
What about Nsfw ?
I can't get the t2iadapter controlnet for style to work in this. I don't have the clipvision preprocessor and it's not automatically downloaded when I try to use it.
I was impressed how quickly the Forge variant created generations within seconds, with the A1111 version. I'd end up getting error issues with my memory even though I have 16GB of RAM & GeForce2060 Super. Usually I am so use to waiting about 2 minutes, sometimes 17 minutes as well with A1111
3:12 As a very savvy tech user who works on AI, writes GPU shaders as his day job, and is already very familiar with this ML ecosystem held up by sticks and glue, for the love of my time, I greatly appreciate installations that are just a few clicks - I have things to do.
How does this compare with vladmandic's SD.Next? Is it worth switching over to Forge?
I've been waiting for masks for IP Adapter.. nice find!
I stopped using A1111 for ComfyUI, there are some things that I go back to use it for, but I've gotten used to the speed of ComfyUI - I'll definintely give Forge a go.
On my tests (8gb 3070) I get images almost twice as fast as with normal a1111, but one thing confuses me: Everything the same I still get different images than in a1111, even if the github says there shouldnt be a difference.
are u sure u using the same settings and seed?
You’re sounding better. Only a tad stuffy. So I keep hoping happy health for my rodent friend and maybe some random adventure too 😉
Achoo! Thanks 😄
@@NerdyRodent 🤣
The entitled pessimist me is whining for realizing I've done everything wrong from the start and have to uninstall everything (Auto1111, Ooba, ST, the works) and start over and learn how to use Python environments and maybe even learn how to code while I'm at it and so much hassle just to generate images, while the adult me is slapping pessimist me and telling him to quit whining and get to work, there's nothing wrong with learning something new and useful. Oh and I hit sub. Thanks Nerdy, hope you're feeling better.
Nice, can i link all the model that i have on Automatic 111to forge or need to paste and drop?
I it possible to use symlink from the files system to make the folder point to where you store your checkpoint/model and it is going to work.
Sadtalker is working in Automatic 1111 but i cant seem to make it work in Forge. It does not show in the tab
Excellent! Thank you.
may i know if it works with old UI themes?
Just tried your model switching example with A1111 and it worked just fine. Maybe patched or intermittent?
Hi All - does anyone know any hacks to get this installed on a laptop supporting a non-NVIDIA GPU? Is there any kind of wrapper for CUDA extensions? Also keen to understand the req. for Python 3.10.6? Thanks!
Can this do upscaling like SD Ultimate Upscale in A1111?
Love it, can finally run SXDL in webUI with my 8GB card.. and agreed no blasted memory issues
My Forge is missing the IP-Adapter models, the list is empty, and thus, the function doesn't work. Any idea what this could be, or how to fix it?
Cracking video. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
Had did you get your photomaker model to pop up
installed fine and ran in img2img but text2img gives TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable.. any ideas appreciated.. I'm running on AMD GPU
For me, I had the parameters for filenames wrong in the settings for image saving. If you've altered it you might want to check that.
@sparks1943 Can you tell me what I have to do to make it work on my Amd gpu?
Thank you 😊
I could not get it to work on AMD in the end I reinstalled the Ishqqytiger version and reinstall torch-directml with pip@@nenadm5747
Can't get LORA's to load with Forge... anyone have this issue?
Finally an SD UI that doesn't crash every 5 minutes what a time to be alive.
Hey i've spent about 4 hours trying to get PhotoMaker to work but just cant seem to get it working. It doesn't seem to do anything to my image even when I include the photomaker prompt. I Cant seem to find where the clip vision (photomaker) file is in the folder and I'm guessing could be a problem... anyone been able to get it working?
same here
What's the simplest way to create animated video from an image? I want eye blinking, but Pixverse is too warpy, random and uncontrollable.
I tried this a few days ago but directml support is minimal atm and hi-res fix renders were over an hour.
Looks great, is there a CoLab notebook for it?
Never mind, only took 10 mins to make one
It's insane how much better it is compared to A1111, I went from 1 Minute for 1 High-Res Picture to 1 Minute to 5 High-Res Pictures.
so i can copy and paste my automatic stuff and it will be fine?
some extensions don't work as its based of dev build
Can use install reactor as well?
i keep getting a Torch error: ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement torch==2.1.2 (from versions: 2.2.0, 2.2.0+cu121, 2.2.1, 2.2.1+cu121)
ERROR: No matching distribution found for torch==2.1.2 and then it exits.
Anyone managed to make sadtalker work? Mine is fine in 1111 but does not show in the tab in Forge
where I put the controlnet models?
Downloaded it last night(17/02/24), this one is going to replace ALL my other tools, I'm running a modest setup and this thing is blazingly fast!!(20 images in approximately 10 minutes)
Somehow cant find how to integrate LM Studio with WebUI.
It's hard to create nice prompts, so expecting language models can create :)
Help please, why Lore don`y working at this version, it`s generate fast and good, but Lore don`t working, in version which crashed but rarely gif me art all Lore was working
Good stuff, did some fast testing and on mine 1070 I went from ~1.1it/s to ~1.4it/s and in HiresFix from ~6.5s/it to ~5.5s/it (working on 512x768 HiresX2 1024x1536). ~27% and ~15% performance boost vs VladDiffusion, impressive I will update Vlad to latest version and check if Forge advantage still holds, and probably switch.
I just couldn't find Model/loras paths settings so I guess if I want to use it with Vlad as backup I will have to copy all models/loras to Forge and change paths in Vlad.
I personally never had problems with changing models in A1111, is it only with SDXL models?
I haven't either and that's with 1.5 and SDXL models. I constantly switch between Realistic Vision and RealVisXL while keeping the same prompt.
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neither did i but i understand what he's saying with that with each change it didnt release your ram, thereby stacking up and making things slower. I watch vids on my second screen and they stutter on my 4070ti while i generate images on A1111, this isn't an issue with comfyui or now Forge for me which is much more user friendly than comfyui and was the main reason i still used A1111..
I have a 4gb vram gpu, does it work with forge?
Can anyone explain how I can use photomaker to put my own face on for example a viking? I tried selecting controlnet, then upload a photo of myself and then generate but it doesn't seem to work
He said you need to download the files for it and showed the video about PhotoMaker which you'd think it would tell you where to get those files but it doesn't because he runs a full install which you wouldn't do since it's already loaded. Or I'm misunderstanding something.
it's possible to run it on Amazon Sagemaker lab?
Thanks!
i can't load SDXL, When i tried to load SDXL it's says just " Press any key to continue . .."
did any one else have control net inpaint model not work. the model doesnt load and can use inpaint feature. how can fix?
Just upgraded to the pro version of Forge totally worth it what a beast.
Forge is very painless! thanks for the recomendation
After switching to Forge UI, I can't activate "ReActor". Is this still an issue? Any leads fellas?
Does Forge fix the problem with Gradio's painting component being so limited you can't even erase from a mask?
your mom as a cute rodent had me laughing
Spmeone know why Lore not working in this version?
This might be a noob question: Forge is based on A1111 - and BOTH REQUIRE CUDA graphics cards to work right? There is a CUDA substitute called ZLUDA FOR AMD GRAPHICS CARDS. HOW DO YOU GET FORGE TO WORK WITH AMD GPU AND ZLUDA? IS THIS AN OVERLY COMPLEX THING TO DO? I believe that there would be a lot of people who would be interested in a solution.
While it’s true that Linux + Nvidia is the best combo, A1111 works on AMD and even Intel CPU / GPUs too!
What's the update? Is this still supported or updated? or is it dead re updates?
can i doi this with a macbookpro and runpod gpu?
If you want to use Linux via run pod, then it doesn’t matter what your local operating system is 😉
What about AnimateDiff + Controlnet via Forge Webui?
But...is it good for AMD gpu? Please tell me it's good so i don't have to buy another card