A very important and overlooked topic. Personally and to each it's own, I refuse to carry a pistol that is not eather a doble action or has a manual safety. In the age of the sticker fired pistol, thanks S&W to give us options. Coming from 1911, I never understood what is all the negativity toward manual safeties, but no body complain about the safety in their home defense rifles.
I have a M18 and a 1911 shooter like you. Totally agree with with the MS solution. I've made that same argument for awhile in other P320 video comment threads and was ignored. Great job!
I wish SIG would at least offer the manual safety as an "option" on all of their striker fired guns. I would really like a new SIG P365 XL Legion... but with no manual safety....pass.
Us country boys would say, "You're going the long way around the barn." I never really cared much for the M9 but was required to carry one in both Kosovo and Iraq. I found its "decocking lever" useful when clearing and loading the weapon when going in and outside "the wire."
I'm sure I'll get hate mail. I grew up with rifles and shot guns. All had safeties, and in different positions. My first hand gun was a ruger single six, way back in the day. My second was a SIG p320. Great pistol no malfunctions. But I couldn't get past the no safety. Never felt comfortable. I contacted SIG and they put the safety in for me. It's like the M18. Kinda spendy but I know it was done correctly. Thanks for the review, but was surprised you didn't say that SIG could install the safety. Unless I missed it.
Excellent points! One other feature that I find important is the ability to load and unload the firearm with the manual safety engaged. I will take all the layers of safety I can get.
The only Sig P320's with zero of these problems are the military ones. I am looking to install the safety soon. Having a safety lever even makes it more reminiscent of the classic Sig P22X series anyway
Thanks for the insight. Maybe just simpler to to buy a compact 1911 in 9mm with a double column magazine. For now I will stay with the glock and will be switching over eventually to a SA/DA guns of some sort when I find one below $1,000 with features that I like.
@SodaPrezsing Yes, includes 2day shipping, trigger safety, role pin, new frame. They will ship you back the gun, old frame and old parts. Super easy and quick. 1 week turn around in my case. Plus it doesn't void your warranty
Racking a round into the chamber also makes a ton of noise, which I find disconcerting. Yeah, if you're at Walmart and some wacko starts popping people across the store, it won't matter. But if someone breaks into your house and doesn't know where you are, announcing your location just to have your weapon ready is a bad idea. You want to announce your location at the time of your choosing, without having your safety predicated upon it, as far as I can tell.
I shipped mine back to Sig. They are installing the safety for 265. If I were to have a gunsmith perform the work, it would be more. Between the cost of the Safety($99), Roll Pin($5), JIG(50), Gunsmith(100), it would have been more expensive. With Sig doing the work, you get the safety and new frame. Plus, it's tested and still under warranty. Just an FYI.
You overlooked the bigger issue with the 320; the drop safety. For Sig to come out with a weapon that isn't drop safe in this day and age is unacceptable. And the way they handled the issue was equally unacceptable.
The reason why Sig doesn’t offer the safety on any other model is because of one thing. Sales. Because it’s a “modular” type pistol, not offering it on every p320 creates more sales for, not only the models of the p320 they offer, but also the parts they offer. Think about it. You’ll either need to purchase multiple pistols to create what you want OR, create what you want piece by piece. It’s all about increasing profitability for them.
A very important and overlooked topic. Personally and to each it's own, I refuse to carry a pistol that is not eather a doble action or has a manual safety. In the age of the sticker fired pistol, thanks S&W to give us options. Coming from 1911, I never understood what is all the negativity toward manual safeties, but no body complain about the safety in their home defense rifles.
I have a M18 and a 1911 shooter like you. Totally agree with with the MS solution. I've made that same argument for awhile in other P320 video comment threads and was ignored. Great job!
I wish SIG would at least offer the manual safety as an "option" on all of their striker fired guns. I would really like a new SIG P365 XL Legion... but with no manual safety....pass.
You can add and or remove manual safety in just a few mn. I ordered my manual safety for my p365xmacro for like 50 bucks
Us country boys would say, "You're going the long way around the barn."
I never really cared much for the M9 but was required to carry one in both Kosovo and Iraq. I found its "decocking lever" useful when clearing and loading the weapon when going in and outside "the wire."
Great video, very thorough explanation.
I'm sure I'll get hate mail. I grew up with rifles and shot guns. All had safeties, and in different positions. My first hand gun was a ruger single six, way back in the day. My second was a SIG p320. Great pistol no malfunctions. But I couldn't get past the no safety. Never felt comfortable. I contacted SIG and they put the safety in for me. It's like the M18. Kinda spendy but I know it was done correctly. Thanks for the review, but was surprised you didn't say that SIG could install the safety. Unless I missed it.
Excellent video!!
Excellent points! One other feature that I find important is the ability to load and unload the firearm with the manual safety engaged. I will take all the layers of safety I can get.
The only Sig P320's with zero of these problems are the military ones. I am looking to install the safety soon. Having a safety lever even makes it more reminiscent of the classic Sig P22X series anyway
Thanks for the insight.
Maybe just simpler to to buy a compact 1911 in 9mm with a double column magazine. For now I will stay with the glock and will be switching over eventually to a SA/DA guns of some sort when I find one below $1,000 with features that I like.
Such a high bore axis though. Other than that they are great.
I want to put safety on my p320 x - I have one on my m18
I called sig about a month ago, and they said they were going to start offering safety in the near future . I haved put my build on hold until then.
Any news on the internet on this?
Nothing yet from sig
@@SodaPrezsingyes, I had mine done. 265.. took about a week
@@simonedibari9986 SIG themselves did it?
@SodaPrezsing Yes, includes 2day shipping, trigger safety, role pin, new frame. They will ship you back the gun, old frame and old parts. Super easy and quick. 1 week turn around in my case. Plus it doesn't void your warranty
Racking a round into the chamber also makes a ton of noise, which I find disconcerting. Yeah, if you're at Walmart and some wacko starts popping people across the store, it won't matter. But if someone breaks into your house and doesn't know where you are, announcing your location just to have your weapon ready is a bad idea. You want to announce your location at the time of your choosing, without having your safety predicated upon it, as far as I can tell.
How much cost to put the manual safety on the p320s???
about 150.00 give or take a couple bucks. SIGMECH Sells the jig and cutting bits, sig sells the safety kit.
265 from SIG and it's doesn't void your warranty
@@simonedibari9986 Very true but if the pistol was bought used there is no warranty.
@@jasonbays9684 Yes, great call out.
I shipped mine back to Sig. They are installing the safety for 265. If I were to have a gunsmith perform the work, it would be more. Between the cost of the Safety($99), Roll Pin($5), JIG(50), Gunsmith(100), it would have been more expensive. With Sig doing the work, you get the safety and new frame. Plus, it's tested and still under warranty. Just an FYI.
You overlooked the bigger issue with the 320; the drop safety. For Sig to come out with a weapon that isn't drop safe in this day and age is unacceptable. And the way they handled the issue was equally unacceptable.
The reason why Sig doesn’t offer the safety on any other model is because of one thing. Sales. Because it’s a “modular” type pistol, not offering it on every p320 creates more sales for, not only the models of the p320 they offer, but also the parts they offer. Think about it. You’ll either need to purchase multiple pistols to create what you want OR, create what you want piece by piece. It’s all about increasing profitability for them.