How Corporate Greed Destroyed East Palestine
Вставка
- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Get Nebula using my link for 40% off an annual subscription: go.nebula.tv/s...
Watch this video ad free: nebula.tv/vide...
On February 3rd, 2023, a Norfolk Southern train carrying tens of thousands of gallons of toxic vinyl chloride derailed in the small town of East Palestine, Ohio. This event, while not unique in the least, is a striking example of how corporate negligence causes environmental an humanitarian disasters. In the weeks since the crash, several other trains have derailed, including at least one more of Norfolk Southern's. Why is this such a common problem? What has led to the US having over 1,000 derailments per year, and why isn't anything being done about it? We flew out to East Palestine to speak to residents and take a look at the issue.
How Corporate Greed Destroyed East Palestine - Second Thought
SUBSCRIBE HERE: bit.ly/2nFsvTS
New video every other Friday (or Saturday in this case)!
Help the residents of East Palestine recover: gofund.me/76a5...
Citations and Further Reading:
The list was too long for UA-cam's description box, so here's a Google Doc with all the citations - docs.google.co...
Follow and Support Second Thought!
Twitter: / _secondthought
Patreon: / secondthought
BuyMeACoffee: www.buymeacoff...
CashApp: $JTChapman
Watch More Second Thought:
Latest Uploads: • Playlist
Spaaaaaace!: • Playlist
What If...: • Playlist
Popular Videos: • Popular Videos | Secon...
About Second Thought:
Second Thought is a channel devoted to education and analysis of current events from a Leftist perspective. Welcome!
Business Email: secondthoughtchannel@gmail.com
This is easily, one of the best videos regarding the completely avoidable East Palestine disaster. It put the people first, it gave their side of their struggles; it concisely put together the chain of events that lead to such a disaster and what we can expect going forward.
JT, thank you for your work! And thank you for being on the ground for this. Your work is invaluable in bringing knowledge to the masses
Noqapas. Allinta rimanki. Jt allinta llank'anki, sumaqmi videopi.
Ew
In a eeww
I absolutely don't want to be mean, but I personally felt like something was missing. Wish I could put my finger on it. I wanted so much for it to be like a 10 million views type of "Let's hit the streets and burn down city hall" kind of thing. I really like Second Thought. I wish more people watched it.
Covert ops done by the people who control the media and porn industry. They love symbolism and did away with the real Palestine 76 years ago as well.
“I was playing call of duty with my wife when the sky started to glow red” is truly the epitome of the American experience
Lmao 😂😂😂😂💀
The rocket’s red glare...bombs bursting in air...
Imagine if you were watching the movie "White Noise", when suddenly the real thing happens.
regular day in america 🙃
Would've been much more ironically prescient if he had been playing Umarangi (Red Sky) generation
I grew up in Beaver Falls about 15 minutes from East Palestine. Thank you for bringing light to this major issue. Too many good people are dealing with this disaster caused by large corporate interest with no accountability. Keep up the good work!
You need to coordinate violence on the rich or there will be no justice
Same! I moved to east Palestine a year ago
Near Beaver Falls is a vinyl Chloride PVC Cracker Plant! Owned by Shell Refinery Polluting PA Bigtime!!!
Norfolk & Southern Owned by Blackrock, Carlyle Group, Vanguard! Follow the $$$$$ Remember Times Beach Missouri and Love Canal Disasters!
After the Lac Megantic disaster, we learned about "one-man crew". There was literally one guy operating the whole train.
He was one of the three workers to have been prosecuted. They've been acquitted, much to the relief of the population.
Executives of the company were never brought to justice. They filed for bankruptcy before paying anything to the community,
The CEO is now running another railroad company.
This was infuriating to read.
We should start posting names and faces of evil people somewhere with lots of Internet traffic. Let vigilantes take justice as they see fit.
@@SirTorcharite Too much risk of mistakes over similar names and appearances.
@@vylbird8014 riskier than letting actual law enforcement attempt to prosecute?
Riskier than doing nothing at all?
Riskier than what? Because if I lived in Ohio, drank that water and breathed that air. Nothing seems as risky as letting this be forgotten.
Too risky for me and mine, too risky for any family like me and mine near any railway in the US.
@@SirTorcharite I'm actually surprised that people like the the CEO op talked about and the Sackler family are still alive lol
It just takes one person who lost a family member to their greed and doesn't have much left.
Since early February, I've been following the stories by the media and by the everyday people near the train derailment, much to my dismay.
The documentation of ecological extermination by Sam Hall and Jonathan Hoeflich opened my eyes to the juxtaposition between the complacent inaction and downplaying by Norfolk & Southern, (and the national government), and the horrible effects of the derailment on the local people and ecosystems.
I'm very proud of you, JT and crew, for the work you did in uncovering the bigger picture behind this terrible, preventable, inevitable disaster. Thank you.
>called East Palestine
>is to the west of Palestine
>is in a country that doesnt recognize palestine
There are Sooo many "Rome's" in america too it's soo weird😂😂
In Canada, specifically ontario, all our towns and cities are names after European cities. We have Berlin, London, Paris, Edinburgh, Brussels,Hamburg, Stratford, and so many others lol
These documentaries are what we need. Honest coverage on the side of the locals effected by this disaster, no corporate spin. Thanks ST
The rich KNOW the dangers. They CHOOSE to act this way. Real change comes from coordinating against them.
Hello I’m open to have a debate on what’s the best political ideology 😊
I will go with fascist they are just soo cute🥰 🇩🇪🦅💪🏻
Howdy, friends! Thanks for watching today’s episode, and apologies for the brief delay while we got an export error sorted out. This is our longest (and most expensive) video yet, so if you’d like to help make videos like this possible, please consider supporting the channel by signing up for Nebula! All your favorite creators, early access, and all ad-free. Snag a nice little discount when you sign up at my link: go.nebula.tv/secondthought
Also, Luke (the guy from the interview) just passed along this link if you'd like to help East Palestine recover! gofund.me/76a575f7
Thank you for covering this. Every American should be enraged by the derailment and the response to it.
Anybody who makes this disaster all about Democrats versus Republicans is unfortunately caught into the easy trap that our system is designed to catch us in. Democrats and Republicans alike are happy seeing this event as an unfortunate accident, or to shift the blame into one particular company.
Great video, just wanted to give you a heads up that the nebula link in the description is not working
This upload is a shorter video than the one you uploaded and took down earlier... what information was possibly left out in this upload?
@@greyelmwalker746 Probly some dumb copyright claim from Norfolk Southern trying to keep this video from going viral.
I’m in Southwest Ohio, and I still haven’t drank the tap water. Everyone thinks I’m paranoid but I don’t think we understand how big of a deal this is yet. Thank you for this video, I haven’t heard much from the residents of EP and this video is excellent.
You're very smart not to touch the water. The Ohio water and land should be treated as a safety hazard and deemed unfit for human habitation.
They are calling you the paranoid one when the water there looks like somebody struck oil. Wait till the acid rain comes.
They let off an environmental nuke in your home and all you’re doing is not drinking the water???
You are paranoid. How much chemical do you think was released 😂
@@xenoneuronics6765 enough to possibly contaminate a not insignificant margin of corn grown in the US due to the effect of the watershed.
Same thing caused by the same reasons happened in Greece a week ago. The only thing worse was that the train was carrying passengers instead of cargo, of which 57 (mostly young university students) died. People have took to the streets to protest the mismanagement of the recently privatized railways but as always no justice will be served.
@À Strand they’ve created a stigma around protesters, and punish them too
@À Strand Protesting doesn't help unless there's something material attached to it. Otherwise it just tells people you're upset. Those in power already know we're upset lol
Vigilante justice will become necessary.
Remember This, "When it comes down to People Safety, 🤑 Money Wins Out Everytime" We must fight corporate greed,elect representatives that gives a damn.about our lives. We must fight for right to live our lives without hurt or harm! Remember Flint Michigan! Injustice to one is a Injustice to All!☮️⚖️❤️
@@jessh4016 While I agree, actually effective protests are often held by organizations who grew because of “meaningless” protests to begin with. A protest can signal to those who are also disillusioned that they are not alone.
If protests taking place now were entirely ineffectual, they wouldn’t feel the need to sick the pigs on them.
Thanks for all your work, but especially for this. It seems like you were alone in providing this kind of coverage of this event.
There was a similar incident in Bulgaria some time ago, a train loaded with explosive toxic chemicals derailed in a small town. Its a miracle it didn't leak or explode, even when it caught on fire.
Excellent work! We appreciate your coverage of important topics like this 👍. Now, we need to put these criminals in jail (fines mean nothing to them).
Maybe we wait 20 years, see how many civilians from the area get cancer (subtracting the previous projections of how many people in that area would've gotten cancer if the incident hadn't occurred, of course), and add one year on to an executive for every year the cancer is expected to take away from these poor peoples' lives
The question is, how do you jail a corporation?
@@denelson83 Jail all the mf'ers who took stock buybacks rather than investing in safety and jail all the people at the top
@@MMiel-mv2pt They have massive legal teams helping to keep them out of jail.
@@denelson83 of course, but my point is that it would be ideal if the idea of fines/lawsuits/legal weasling would be changed to hardcore jail time for f'ing over communities and the environment due to gross negligence like this. Although I know we don't live in that world, it's just a shame because they can always afford to pay their way out of this sh*t. Maybe they would think twice if they were guaranteed to have to serve actual prison time (and lose all their profits).
Was confused to see this pop up again after just watching it. Hope YT isn't giving you any trouble. Thanks for the amazing video as always. Keep up the great work guys.
The original upload has definitely been removed from the channel.
yeah. just shared it out before it gets pulled again.
I was halfway through the original upload when it disappeared, and I was left with a message saying "this video has been removed by the uploader."
Someone else said part of it didn't upload correctly?
I'm ~not~ defending YT, but I don't think there was anything hinky here...
He removed it because of a small error in the vid
@@nobody8328 same
Great video, thanks for informing us.
The fact that you actually went there and reported directly from the ground, shows your sincerity and speaks for the quality journalism shown here. You have my respect, brother.
Thank you for the coverage of this disaster, JT. Thank you also for pointing out that it's far from the first of its kind - solidarity to any and all communities that have gone through or are going through catastrophes like this. Such disasters shouldn't be "memoryholed," and the underlying economic structures and incentives that foment the ever-growing amount of them need to remain in the public dialogue. Your work is extremely important!
Ohhhh, 38 minutes! JT and his dear man are making documentaries now! This is a real jump in quality: I welcome the change, Second Thoughers, and hope this brings a kick up in attention to all the issues this channel helps introduce.
This is one of a few stories with this much in depth coverage I have seen on this incident. Good job to all on this piece.
"Homicidal thirst for profit" is a hell of a phrase. Gonna have to start using that myself, because it seems unfortunately accurate.
Keep up the good work
This is a fantastic video JT, thank you! We need journalism like this and I appreciate you delivering this information to us. 10/10
I was working the Lumber department at the Chippewa Home Depot on a closing shift, and we saw the flames from the top of the hill where it changes from 45mph to 55mph. It was jaw-dropping how massive it looked from that far away.
Also WOW I haven't seen Luke since high school.
I remember the times where your videos were just slideshows of stock videos and images with a bit of zooming. It's amazing to see how far your production value has come, despite UA-cam demonitizing your very much educational content :)
Before this video, the most "coverage" I saw about this disaster was a few instagram stories. No air time from any major news outlets. Your work is so very crucial, and we can't thank you enough.
This is the perfect recipe for even more rampant distrust to spring up... Bravo.
I would not accept any money because when you inevitably go to sue them they are going to say they already compensated you in court, DO NOT ACCEPT ANY MONEY OF ANY KIND FROM NS
Thank you for covering this so well. It is hard to not feel hopeless about the future when tragedies like this continue to happen. I hate knowing that evil people are powerful, and put their profits before people's safety. What can any of us realistically do? We can voice our concerns as much as we want but they continue go ignored. I'm tired, and so sad. But your coverage, and all these comments as well, give me hope
Start petitions to update the laws of incorporation, to require public safety measures, worker safety measures, and that companies be required to attempt to earn long-term sustainable profit only.
Currently corporations are required to attempt to increase profit at all costs.
Newspapers for example were earning %20 profit a year, and because corporations decided to go for short term profits, continually cut staff until they were no longer profitable at all, and had no one wanting to advertise with them as their content levels dropped on a constant downhill slope.
The basic regulations that encourage short term gains need to be replaced. ❤
Kind of makes you wonder which politicians are sponsored by/owned by Lobbyist for corporations.
Politicians should be made to wear labels on what or who owns them
I'm an aquatic ecologist. I'm in creeks all the time, all year. The repercussions from this are literally unfathomable. We're gonna be seeing it for decades. Endangered species populations wiped out. The fact that it's in the sediment like that means we're losing entire benthic communities, losing stability, we'll see increased sedimentation. The Ohio River is fucked now. Norfolk Southern should not be involved in any testing, just paying and being executed by death penalty for this.
For a country that doesnt stop talking about Chernobyl its shocking how normalised this tragedy already is
It's great to see how far you have come JT. This is a quality video covering an important topic. It's important that what happened in EP remain in the spot-light. Not enough about the EP disaster in the news and it seems like the main-stream media and the party responsible is eager to move on.
By far your best video. It's a sad reality to see innocent people get caught up in this hellish late stage capitalist society. People in America need to start waking up and realize that privatization and corporations will never safeguard the average American. I am glad you put this video out to make people more conscious about it. Good job and keep it up JT.
Im so use to seeing ppl just sit in a room or in front of a camera taliking about these thing (which its nothing wrong with that) but the fact that you guys really went there to report what was going on moved me. It shows that you really do deeply care about what you're talking about and don't mind mobilizing. I just loved that.
This is so similar to the mining dam disasters in Brazil.
November 2014 a huge dam was tore, contaminating a river with heavy mud for kilometers up to the ocean. Few years later, January 2019, yet another dam was tore and overwhelmed a town, killing hundreds of people.
The mining company (Vale) used to be state-owned, but was privatized in 1997. After so much lobby to ensure maximum profits, the dams' safety was completely neglected. Overfilling the dams with mining dejects, all it took was a rainy summer to seal each tragedy.
Yes please make more of these where you go interview people I also wouldn’t mind you uploading longer form interviews on perhaps a second channel
Such an important video. Corporate greed is completely unchecked
Best coverage I've seen for this ongoing crisis
I’m from Canada and never even heard about that lac megantic spill…. Good job covering that one up
Thought it was late to ask about this but yay Second thought video so I'll watch and learn.
We need to nationalize a lot more than the railroads.
Your content keeps getting better by the video. It's totally worth waiting a couple of weeks, and I'll be singing up to Nebula to help out as well. Thank you very much for all the great work, JT and team!
I live almost 100mi SE of EP, and we are still being told that our “water is being closely monitored.” Which makes me believe our water isn’t being closely monitored.
Its weird hearing your hometown pop up in these types of videos, even if only for a few seconds.
I saw that hearing where a bunch of senators ripping the NS CEO, Alan Shaw, a new one for his gross negligence... and I barely felt a thing. It's getting harder and harder to enjoy scenes like that when you just know they're not going to change anything.
Never trust a politician railing against lobbying, when they are also getting payouts from other lobbyists. It's a circle jerk.
By the time this video releases, we'll certainly know more about the crash and its causes... Nope. This was easily the most in depth review I've come across. I've been following on twitter a little bit, and I'm active in some social media that would share that kind of information, and without a doubt this has been the most comprehensive breakdown I've seen so far. Things are *that* bad in our journalism landscape. Thank fuck for you, JT
Nationalize the railroads? Make them safe and efficient? Not only would that prevent disasters, but it would also take trucks off the roads, making them safer and reduce carbon emissions. Something I first read about in 1976!
Thank you for this reporting - your on the ground analysis is super valuable - thank you!
this is amazing work JT, you and the crew have grown tremendously and thank you for all the work you do
The term, "Getting Railroaded " has been around a long time. Its time we nationalized all of them.
We need to nationalize alot more than railroads
28:30
Thinking about the media blackout of this. It reminds me of the quote “the revolution will not be televised.”
This video and the one from more perfect union have genuinely opened my eyes to this disaster. We needed railroad nationalization yesterday.
Have a look at the Swiss transportation system where public and private transport operators are able to have one scheduled timetable for all kind of transport…
Ever heard of the Battle of Blair Mountain? Things have not changed.
JT actually Seemed Angry in some parts of this... Like, I understand why, but it was kinda a Surprise to see, he usually tries so hard to keep a neutral or Sarcastic tone.
I’m worried about the residents of East Palestine, and I haven’t seen much talk online about them anymore. Afaik, there’s no kind of “cleanup” even possible, and I think the rail company should pay for all of the residents to move. Imho, we should be treating it like a tiny, company-caused Chernobyl, and East Palestine should be evacuated.
What really tans my hide is how insurance makes they're cost analysis work in their favor. Like, what about the cost of what they're hauling? How is it still profitable for them to lose all that cargo?
Wheel bearings, brake shoe's/pads, axle grease, rail spikes and ballast are all 10 a penny when transporting such toxic nasties they should be handled with the same care as radioactive waste.
WELL PUT ! Best coverage I have seen !
This is just like in a very bad b-movie.
A public press conference with a guy in white scientist jacket?! really, do people in US only believe when it looks like out of a cartoon?
That's why I don't want to life in US. 50 wagons releasing toxic chemicals, affecting people and animals for the next decades, and no one does something, no one seem to care a lot and 5 months later it is already forgotten again.
There might be a TV show in 5 years showing how people are still suffering but only few people will watch it, like all the other economic catastrophies in US ...
Great video, very important
As an european I thought this was about the country, Palestine. The news have talked about it here as well but the location has been stated as Ohio, not East Palestine. Edit after watching the whole video: Really informative and important video. It's like the teflon film all over again...
The people of East Palestine and the surrounding region deserve better. Nationalize rail, or at least regulate the rail companies so they have better safety standards, to stop this happening again. As we can see, the profit motive destroys lives.
This work was amazing. Thank you so much for providing this content!
I saw this video was taken down. Better get through it now before it goes down again.
Again Second Thought nails it. The reasoning as to why the narrative is being ignored on main stream news is dead on. Unfortunately this will fade except for a few of the You Tube or Twitch news streams. Thanks JD.
An impressive, in-depth and in-person investigation into the tragedy and failings that befell east palestine... and it could have been prevented.😢
I have already shared! Thank you, for continuing to find and share the ugly truths that rule our land, of the not so free, in order to educate and inspire action. This channel and creator helped play a role in me finding the courage and inspiration to run for office in the local election...in just a few weeks! Gulp. (As panic and imposter syndrome kick my neurodivergent brain into high gear...)
I better start pounding the pavement again.
The CEO needs to be arrested for this
You filled in gaps that I wasn't getting from other sources, well done. Now we watch as Congress will say they need to do something, propose great legislation, then drag their feet as the water it down over the next several months, as they make East Palestine more and more of a memory. Maybe then we will then get distracted by something else... like another balloon. Then they can do nothing and pocket more lobbyist money.
It was actually anonymous rail workers that came up with the term "bomb trains".
Excellent reporting!!
I live near Toledo and I'm telling you they try and sweep this under the rug constantly or downplay it constantly
The local government decided to set fire to the derailed train cars! Absolutely disgusting actions!
Pass a bill to protect people from corporate neglect we deserve to be safe from these monsters
Thank you very well document. Presentation was very informative and understood. HOW they are trying to change the narrative 🤔🤔😳 WOW
"Profit is the only thing that matters." Welcome to our society.
Thank you for the strong ending calling out these sick behaviors!
Your new “feet on the ground” style is definitely working for you. I know it is more costly to produce, but have no doubt you will see a growth surge, due in part, to your polish and professionalism. You have worked hard to get to this point, and have a lot of work ahead of you.
Watching you grow as a journalist, seeking out real people in real situations, has been delightful. Keep doing what you do…you, and others like you, are the future of news and journalism.🖤🇨🇦
I feel like i should have to pay to watch this, that's how quality it is.
@@Hyperion4K I agree, this is a huge step in his development as a serious journalist that more and more people will be paying attention to. I noticed the editorial and interactions in his last posting, but this just turned the intensity up in a serious way.🖤🇨🇦
dude pulled a tom scott
I have been surprised by the amount of "feet on the groud" journalism going on around this subject. Seems like a lot more than subjects usually get.
Hey Tamarra, it's so great to see you here supporting other awesome creators as well!!!
As someone from East Palestine, and I can't express how much I appreciate you making this video and keeping this story in the public eye. I moved away for college a few years ago, and it was such a surreal and difficult experience trying to gather updates and check on my family's safety as everything was unfolding those first few weeks, before national news really picked up the story. There's so much uncertainty around everything, from health to ecological to socio-economic, and just by the nature of it we won't really know the full extent of it for another 15-20 years.I'm not shocked that a big corporation is evil, but it just hits different when the direct victim of that greed is your hometown, the people you grew up with, places you've been 1000s of times over. It sucks on a whole different level :/
Do you know if the train conductor died?
@@Thecatnamedkiwi I thought it was reported No one died ..you hear different?
You will be under the rug in no time
@@Thecatnamedkiwi he survived (or they*), without he/them the disaster would have been worse because he/they decoupled the train cards and drive. Them away before it got worse.
* It's not gendern but there may been 2 driver's.
Lets not forget about the movie which predicted it
Thank you for covering us here in East Palestine! I am afraid we will be easily forgotten. I’m afraid we will be just another sacrifice zone. I appreciate all of your support and work on this.
Greetings and support from Paraguay!
My dad is an east Palestine firemen and we moved here from beaver falls about a year ago
@@Ilovegoatsss . I hope you’re all safe and doing well!
This is the most important video you've made yet, which is saying a LOT.
Thank you for putting in the legwork to get as much of the picture as possible. This is the future of true journalism. 👐🏻
So true! This is hardly getting any coverage on mainstream media. Here we all are, just regular folks getting hefty doses of facts through dedicated citizen journalism on YT. We've begun to take back control of the narrative from the corporate-owned media thanks largely to sites like 2nd Thought.
This was his best piece of work
This reminds me of Flint Michigan and the towns affected by fracking and other chemical/environmental disasters. It's insane that regular people fight against safety and environmental regulations when all it does is benefit corporations and harms local people.
It's almost strange to see this channel, over the years, go from "haha, here is a neat video" to what I would describe as competent and well produced journalism. I'm impressed and glad you're doing this kind of work.
I still remember my bafflement when (as an ancom and long-term subscriber) this channel suddenly switched to agitprop with no prior warning.
Nice pfp btw
Nice pfp
Nice pfp
@@michimatsch5862yeah I'm down widdit. Im an Anarchist (Anarcho-Syndiclist) not com or cap but I appreciate the socialist criticism of our corporate socialist or cronie capitalist system. Anyone who freaks out the Federal government enough to send the FBI to their front door is worth taking seriously. So Second Thought is a channel which I take seriously when trying to form my opinion on issues.
I work in a factory and I heard a manager say, "we don't need safety right now. We need more production." And this was a floor level manager. So I can imagine how the upper management CEO's feel.
Yikes! Best of luck- hope you and your coworkers stay safe as possible. Hopefully union/osha/whatever resources you all have can help buffer that
They really don't care about us, they only care about profit.
The sad thing is we have all heard this in some form, the entire job market runs like this. The railroad industry is only the one where the consequences are easiest to see.
@@deedsc Kinda like how people love the USCSB for reporting and doing analysis on industrial disasters. They love it because it has no power to enforce safety measures, it only tells them what they already agreed with, that safety measures are necessary. It's kinda like a patient who acknowledged that he has problems but refused to get on a therapy yet still claimed that he made more progress than a patient who refused to acknowledge that he has problems.
When you see/hear that type of behavior, promptly and firmly (yet politely) let them know that you *WILL* report them to the necessary agencies if they don't want to care about the safety of their workers. I have straight up called the health department on my own job before.
*We cannot afford to have ANY chill*
As a East Palestine local, my father is a retired engineer that ran these very same rails for NS’s successor, Conrail this may shed some light to understand all the derailments leading up to the East Palestine one. In 1998 when he retired, Conrail was ran and maintained by the federal government and was a profitable company In those days, the rails, crossings, bridges and even rail cars were better maintained and relatively new. However when he retired in 1998 the rails, crossings and bridges were due to be updated and upkeep needed done. When NS and CSX bought Conrail they cut corners to the point of instead of repairs and maintenance, they did away with crossings, lights and gates etc.. and did just enough maintenance to keep the “train on the rails” just to boos profits. Here we are 25yrs later, and we are finding out about all the derailments and it’s coming back to haunt NS and CSX
As a mechanic and soon engineer, the longer a company delay repairs and maintenance, the bigger the damage. If a smal part is not repaired and maintaned, that part will cause problems for bigger parts, causing more parts that would be fine otherwise to fail.
I dont see why some companies do this as the cost of not doing maintenance is higher in the end. Maintenance parts like brakepads, grease, some sensors, wires are all cheap
@@kristofferhaugstad7616 Short term profits. You are absolutely right tho, it's like not fixing that dent in the bridge, which leads to it collapsing one day
I know I'm very late, but what your father said about CSX and NS neglecting maintenance and resulting in accidents 20 years later sounds exactly like what happened with the DC Metro. The neglect started in late 90s, and then a couple decades later we had electrical fires every week for a year or so it seemed.
Good Video overall on the topic and I especially appreciated the in person interviews, but I have to comment on some things:
1. ECP Brakes: These are a red herring and where only picked up by David Sirota because he needed something to directly blame (He even admitted this on Chapo). Unfortunately every other journalist picked this specific point about "safety" without actually diving into what it meant. ECP brakes are barely used anywhere else in the world (only one Australian mining railroad actually uses them), every other railroad that has safer practices than the US doesn't have anything similar. European Railways are still using the same westinghouse airbrakes that our rail system is using yet do not have as many derailments. Its not the brakes that are the issue, but I understand why its an easy point to harp on with the RRs avoiding safety measures. Its just not the slam dunk that everyone thinks that it is.
2. I'm happy that you mentioned Nationalization. True systematic changes to the system are the only way to truly prevent future catastrophes like this. Hap-hazard Band-Aids on the system will only allow corporations to find some other loophole around legislation. Other people have covered this before and similar issues like PSR but they either stay awhile from the idea of nationalization or just omit it completely. Also another industry that benefits from nationalization is our airline industry as most airports are publicly owned.
Great video overall and its obvious that you stepped up your editing on this one.
P.S. It's probably not best practice to just use random train stock footage, about 60% of what you had up there was either eastern European or Chinese trains.
Ayo, i didnt know you were a socialist! Good to know
This needs more attention, always appreciate the analysis from Fisher.
Did deregulation cause this? 1970?
There was a deadly train crash recently in my country, Greece, where more than 57 mostly young people tragically died. And damn, the parallels are so many... The privatised rail network, the complete negligence for safety measures, the constant warnings by the unions, the indifference of politicians, the attempts of most media to present is as an accident and "human error". It would have been funny if it wasn't so tragic. Our lives are of no value in comparison to their profits under our current system. Thank you for this great video, JT!
Privatization is the devil´s work -- $$$ making at any cost.
damn that sucks bro
Same in quebec. I don't know if it's for a similar reason, but a train derailed and killed 46 in lac mégantic.
Until people accept that the system must change the murders will continue.
@@milkkorsmth absolutely, negligence by decreasing man power and limiting safety measures for the purpose of profit.
I'm a Columbus resident and I heard a lot of stories out of there about people being watched by the police and unmarked black SUVs whenever they were looking around and asking questions. Glad you managed to avoid that and thank you for making this. I, and I know many others, are so tired of the corporate greed and complete lack of concern for safety. Like you pointed out, even if they see their day in court, they will just continue on with business as usual, peoples health and safety be damned.
They shouldn't make it to a day in court. Suicide is a major killer of Americans nationwide.
None of the psychopaths participating in the corporate greed are ever too far from one of their victims or people victimized by people just like themselves.
All we have to do is keep it publicized where evil people are and when. Like the Twitter guy who only tweets Elon Musk's location and actions. That kind of person would be invaluable to someone with a score to settle with Musk.
If there was lots of people like that Twitter guy then maybe they could help the suicidal become martyrs.
Maybe after a few cases of martyrdom these psychopaths will be more cautious in their acts against the American citizenry.
I mean, what's the point of having a bunch of money if you and all your family must be constantly looking over your shoulder. Living in constant fear of surprise retribution for their inequities. Constant fear that a parent who lost a child from the corporation's actions, coming to take an eye for an eye.
No amount of wealth can protect you from EVERYONE.
And "business as usual" in that sense means the human species being accelerated towards extinction.
@denelson83 when I look at any city with all its concrete and junk polluting the environment that's fine by me.
We crossed a line we can't cross back over decades ago.
@@obtuseangler768 Begone, fatalist fool.
Sounds like corporate rent-a-cops or just police there to protect the corporations.
The mad lad said nationalization LEEETTTSSSS GOOOOOOOOO
Thank you for showing the people and the impact this has on them. Norfolk needs to be held accountable, and what's currently happening is not them being held accountable enough. THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY FOR EAST PALESTINE!
Nationalize the railroads!
I know youtube takes a fair bit of this, but I do subscribe to nebula & curiosity stream as well.
As someone who considers sleeping on the streets because I have to slave to afford to pay my rent and live, I can’t imagine just giving a UA-camr $100😭
@salma I'm sorry you're in that position. It's not your fault. I work for the postal service. They pay well, are unionized, are a very secure job (we have a no layoff clause in our craft contract) and are desperately trying to hire for lots of different jobs. Maybe that helps, maybe it doesn't.
Please seek public assistance if you haven't already, and get on the waiting list for subsidized housing if you can. I'm proud to pay my taxes to help support people who are struggling in your situation, and only regret that our society doesn't do more for you.
i love how they call it 'controlled burnoff' lmao
Right? If they're so vital to the economy and companies "can't afford" to adhere to tight safety standards or to pay for sick leave, perhaps a body actually capable of doing so should fill in for them. Indefinitely.
wait how much does UA-cam take from Super Thanks
Great journalistic work about horrific consequences of systemic regulatory failure, thanks from Germany and I hope that the accident will serve as a warning not to loosen regulation or privatize the railroad networks here in the EU. Most importantly, I wish all the best to the community of East Palestine and its people 🫶
Cough cough, DB AG, cough.
I wish this would serve as a warning to america as well, but we don't learn easily. somehow less regulation is always the answer
@@livewellwitheds6885 i don't see how that's possible
Thanks autocorrect for butchering up my last comment.
@@livewellwitheds6885 because anything else than less regulation is socialism and socialism is evil and directly from hell, isn't it?
Hello I’m open to have a debate on what’s the best political ideology 😊
I will go with fascist they are just soo cute🥰 🇩🇪🦅💪🏻
When you said the money is stained with the blood of kind and decent people, damn. Truth drop that instantly made me overwhelmed with grief. I love you young man. Thanks for weaponizing our knowing.
Several months ago, the rail unions were striking (or about to strike) over fears of safety and the like. And Biden stepped in. Interesting paradox. More than ever, we have a political system entirely beholden to corporations, and not to the public. As another youtube producer noted, the East Palestine event is a new lower bar as to how the United States government generally considers the welfare of its citizens. Excellent production and coverage for this video. Thank you!
Well said
If East Palestine were Ukraine the $$ would be flowing in. But in fact the Ukrainians are mere cannon fodder -- being blown to bits by Biden´s desire for war and not peace negotiations. Biden = Trump but worse.
Exactly. Wonder what would've happened or not happened, had Biden let the workers strike. I was disappointed that he took that step; he's for the working man, or so he says. A new lower bar's how Candidate Biden promised absolutely no oil drilling in the Arctic, none period, and now Willow Creek's next. It's all about profit for fossil fuels and campaign finance. Great piece today on that by DN.
I understand what you are saying. We live in a Federal system though. What the fuck was the Ohio governor doing and why couldn't Ohio handle this? They have a National Guard. Why were they not called in? I was in the Army and we handle chemical shit. They have doctors. Shelters they could have put up. If the state has no money for this, WHY? The state is not purple but red. Both DeWine and Husted are Republicans.
The Federal govt should not have to step in for these kinds of things unless maybe there were nukes on board. Instead this come 2024 will be pushed by one said as a Biden failure and not a failure of a red state.
@@feralhomunculus Hmm, so one side wants to take away SS and Medicare while the other side does not? Pull any coin out. I will wait. Got one? Now look at both sides. Come now, look at both sides. Are they the same? Yes, there are strong similarities such as corporate money but they are NOT the same.
It’s pretty damn disgusting how these people are being treated by Norfolk Southern but it’s not surprising in the least. These corporations create “million dollar funds” but neglect to ever mention that the damage they did would cost several magnitudes more to ACTUALLY fix allowing people to think that they are doing enough to address things. Side note, awesome to see you getting out and doing these new vids JT.
Toxic spills cant be fixed. You just wait for nature to absorb it. Which can take many lifetimes.
Corporations are evildoers to me!
Sadly legislators and corporations have always shown the people how disposable they are from gun control to infrastructure to the environment but people refuse to believe it until it directly impacts them and even then all the elite do is use patriotism to bring them into line.
It's our own government!! They paid off the CEO of the train company. It's obvious the train derailment was fine until they literally dug trenches and let the deadly chemicals out and purposely burned them into our atmosphere!
Nofolk Sufferin
Algorthm got confused by the title
I expected this video to make me angry, but I didn't expect that it'd make me bawl my eyes out.
I grew up in the Southeast of the U.S, and a good chunk of my childhood was spent playing in the woods, rivers, creeks, hiking mountains, etc.
Seeing that person hold the dead wildlife in their hand and how polluted that creek was hit me like a ton of bricks. I thought about seeing the places I loved in my childhood like that. I know there were kids who played in those spaces, and now they're ruined.
It breaks my heart and makes me fucking furious. These parasites need to be stopped.
bawl
@@herculesrockefeller8969 Ope, good catch. Friggin auto-correct
The only question is how do we stop them? Everything we have tried has been met with ruthless extermination by these parasites.
@@denelson83 air brakes
@@denelson83 just don't sabotage the rails! definitely don't do that. We must NOT meet this infestation with fire and lead
JT, amazing work again. Makes me proud to be a Patreon supporter for content like this. Always love your work comrade.
This episode helped me understand what even went on there because most media outlets didn’t even try to educate the public on what happened. Your journalism with an anti-capitalist perspective is so refreshing and engaging to watch.
It seemed like the large media outlets were trying to downplay the event and its aftermath. Really cool to see many youtubers cover this in detail and with seemingly way less bias
So blaming capitalism instead of the people and government that caused it...yeah... anything related to information on a subject like this shouldn't be tainted by any "perspective". This had nothing to do with Capitalism, and everything to do with corruption and no regard for human life. Get a lot more of that in Socialist and Communist countries...but sure it's all evil Capitalism...moron.
More like anti-capitalist propaganda. His only perspective is "capitalism bad socialism good". Everything he says should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
@@kallerokanen8979 Read "Inventing Reality" or "Manufacturing Consent"
He not being anti capitalist he's being anti neo liberal capitalism.. capitalism is great but regulation is clearly needed..or you crony capitalism...
I live about 45 minutes away from East Palestine and it’s sickening how the local news around here has barely scratched the surface on the details about how and why this happened. This whole disaster is the perfect encapsulation of government/corporate corruption and how media acts as unofficial PR for both groups.
there is SO much more that both the rail company and the government could have done to address the needs of the people.
This catastrophe is being far too downplayed.
Also it's kinda dark irony that the rail workers strike was barred by the federal government and then this kind of rail disaster happens.
The workers warned us and they not only ignored the workers, they vehemently shut them up.
Thanks for your awesome work JT
You see? The US is a capitalist dictatorship. You don't toe the capitalist line, you get severely punished.
And capitalism is inherently violent towards the working class. It seems the only way the working class can get its way is to be just as violent towards corporate profits.
Yep that's a certified america moment. Weakening the government further and further until lobbying runs the country. When it goes wrong people wonder how it happened.. do you REALLY think companies will not kill people without the government forcing them to save citizens?? Companies want one thing and one thing only and that's money. The government is the only institution strong enough to control companies.. and it needs to stay that way regardless of what conservative puppets will try to tell you.
These are the same constituents that will scream "SOCIALISM!" when any talk of regulation comes up. Seriously, these people are all for the free market and then when they go into the free market, they don't like it's very favorable towards the big guy.
Here in Norway, nurses have been barred from striking for years without any increase in salary to compensate for inflation.
Guess what we have now? A shortage of nurses, who woulda thunk. And the dipshit politicians keep pushing for it as this amazing job when it's a lengthy education for high stress low pay.
And the same might happen to the teachers now that they too got recently barred from striking. A ton of students have moved over to other studies. Probably not long until we got a teacher shortage as well.
Denying employees the right to strike is in the long run damaging to both the profession and the local communities. It's tyranny.
While I believe we do a lot of things right, I am seeing things slowly getting worse and it is why I do not vote for any of the mainstream political parties anymore. They are all in varying degrees part of the problem.
You mean state government .... right? Because I can tell you that republicans will fight against any government overreach such as regulations. To republicans, regulations are evil.
" The rail unions are headed toward a strike over pay and ongoing grievances from members that the working conditions are grueling, and not conducive to a life off the job.
The schedules are of particular concern with rail workers citing a lack of sick leave, inability to routinely visit the doctor or tend to family emergencies, and weekslong stretches of being on call. "
USA Today, Anna Kaufman,
Congress steps to avert impending rail strike at Biden's ask. What do the rail workers want?
Sept. 15, 2022
I think conservatives and leftists (we've gone full horseshoe) are lying a lot to make the right look better than they are and to demonize the innocent left.
In point of fact, except for sick leave, I'm pretty sure these union workers got their pay raise. And they would have gotten the sick leave but a majority, no... an OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of republicans in Congress voted AGAINST sick leave for these railroad workers.
Biden called DeWine. DeWine rejected the offer of aid. Vance didn't bother to ask for help. The EPA - the only federal agency that actually has relevance considering the chemicals and environment, they were on the scene. FEMA is for buildings damaged and things like that. This was just a train derailment and I don't recall coverage of any houses being destroyed or any such property. Besides, DeWine would have had to declare a state emergency. I wonder why he didn't.
also... here's my bigger problem. Buttigieg is being blamed. Biden is being blamed. Trump overturned Obama's regulations. What's to stop the next republican from canceling any Biden rules? Isn't it just performance art to demand that Buttigieg look like he's doing some work that we all know that republicans are going to overturn in the next few years? Why are we wasting our time on this game? Remember that an overwhelming majority of republicans voted against sick leave for these railroad union workers. Also, remember that E. Palestine voted for republican legislators who failed them. Ohio legislature is mostly republican... and what have they done?
Besides... I'm okay with the union busting. Here's why. It's something the republicans should love. We can't just shut down the economy for the union. (I mean, isn't that what the republican politician from TX said when we were working at trying to stop Covid from spreading and endangering American lives? Something something grandma would be happy to die for the economy.)
In addition, it would have been a nightmare. Food shortages. I understand that republican voters in E. Palestine don't care if a black baby is starving because the baby formula didn't get to the local supermarket but I care. And I understand that republican voters in E. Palestine don't care if Juan, the Mexican immigrant, can't find food because our stores operate a just in time system. But I care. I just don't care about E. Palestine. Maybe they should ask their republican elected legislators to do something rather than asking for Democrats to fix republican mistakes ... again.
It's all so tiresome. I just want things to finally change for the better for once.
Welcome to reality : |