The Pattison Waltz (1889)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Another of Edison's early music recordings; this one from 1889 (recorded 25 February). This is the ever-so-slightly silly "Pattison Waltz" (no text I can make out at all, just lots of la-ing and so on - but she mIght be singing words I guess) . The singer is Effie Stewart (a New York soprano of no particular fame) and the pianist is Theo Wangeman, one of Edison's technicians. Frankly, it sounds comical, to put it politely.
Incidentally, Wangemann was the man who turned up in Vienna in December of the same year, and who recorded Brahms performing in the house of his friend, Dr Felinger, there.
"What kind of music do you listen to?"
"80s music."
"Cool. Do you like Cyndi Lauper, Madonna, and Michael Jackson?"
"No, not 1980s. 1880s."
😅
Scary to know that all participants in the performance, recording, crafting, and playing of this record are long, long gone.
I think it would be scary if those people were still alive! 😂😂
I do wonder what would they think about this would it be wow or wth I don't sound like that? Do I? Like most recordings now
i remember participating in this exact recording!! oh the memories me and guys were in the back with our glasses of jack daniels tapping along!!! good days.
So far as I know this is the only existing recording of this song, the words are by E.A Valentine and the music by J.N.Pattison and it goes like this
"I would like if we could here alone with no other
take a turn in this waltz only just once together
I would like if we could here alone with no other
take a turn in this waltz ah yes
While I am dancing, all things entrancing, I feel my heart within me all full of love for thee
while I am dancing all things entrancing I feel my heart within me all full of love for thee, for thee
Take a turn in this waltz take a turn in this waltz only just once together
I would like if we could here alone with no other take a turn in this waltz ahhh yes.
After the dance we'll go, for it would please me so,
to sup on something light ere we part for the night
After the dance we'll go for it would please me so,
to sup on something light ere we part for the night. ah.....ah....ah....ah...ah...ah.....ah....ah....ah...ahhhhhh....ahhhh"
(Then there should be 2 pages of instrumental which has been omitted in this recording)
"I would like if we could here alone with no other
take a turn in this waltz only just once together
take a turn in this waltz only just once together
take a turn in this waltz only just once together...ahhhh yes."
I like how the man doing the introduction stops to clear his throat. I don't know why, I just found it slightly amusing.
Honestly same
Pretty sure that's either Wangemann or Edison lol
Would guess Edison myself if Wangemann is playing piano but could be another assistant too
@@craigshewchuk9018 I don't think it was Edison. The accent is clearly German.
probably had TB
You might want to compare the (muffled) sound of this recording with later (1890's) brown wax cylinders on U-tube. Late 1880's Edison system cylinders were recorded on what is (was) called white wax which actually was a type of wax (and also was not prone to mold as were (are) brown wax cylinders. In 1890 a formulation was developed which gave a better recording as the white wax cylinders gave a muffled sound as can be heard here. This formulation was chemically not wax but rather chemically is an insoluble soap. You might also notice that some brown wax cylinders have a lot of background noise; this is because of the growth of mold on the cylinders surface which, if extensive enough, can obliterate the recording. Some collectors of early audio shave off these moldy cylinders for re-recording however Shawn Bori (who makes brown wax cylinder blanks today) abhors this practice as some method might be developed to "read through" this mold and reproduce the original sound on the cylinder--who knows?
top song
This song was made a year after i was born
DJ vlogs well, you must be 128 years old then
@@MrHannahandmiley1 Must be, with his brain gone all to mush.
You mean 1988 not 1888?
XD
This is what it would sound like if there was radio in the 1880's.
sounds perfects for a video game or movie set in that time!
A great recording
@chrisz78 I'm afraid the assumption you're making is wrong, though it makes good sense! The almost-contemporary Block cyclinders (same technology) include Sandra Droucker saying "Oh, I forgot to say that I am Sandra Droucker" with her rendition of Chopin Prelude op.28 no.8 in 1898, and Anna Essipova saying "I Anna Nikoleayevna Esspiova played at the apartment of Julius Ivanovich Block" on her performance of Godard Gavotte op.81 no.2. in 1898. These have no appreciable gap between voice and piano
Only 80s keep kids will understand
It is mostly of opratic 'coloratura', d60944. 🤨
She is an excellent singer.
It is the pitch and temporal distortions of the recording plus as layered on top of that, the payback, that combine to make it's hearing and appreciating say, 'difficult,' for we amateurs.
Now you can compare the voice of Wangemann with the introduction announcement in the Brahms Cylinder.
It is so sure that the person introducing Brahms is NOT Wangemann.
I have already have a copy - much cleaner copy than this transfer - but I won't post it because you already did.
I mett mr. edison years ago in 1884 when I was a lad of 15 years old he was a swell guy indeed I also strarted playing piano that year however when I was a lad of 7 in 1876 I would hope on my grandmothers piano here & there I was in quiere by 1875 so i started singing & much later in 1887 i my voice would be on the phonograph I recorded music from 1887-1951 again 1974-1978 then i died & now im alive agian hahhhhaa.
theguyof1900 mr. messiah, shouldn’t you have better grammar from all of your years alive?
@karlsalz It might be Wangermann (the pianist), who was one of Edison's technicians and recording people. That is the normal assumption. Then again, it might be someone else....
This is on the National Recording Registry.
Now it's on my playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLOkenPTX79oQ2wHuSuA7QLUywjADP7vXV.html
Sounds ‘80’s. 1880’s!
@chrisz78 Also, at this time it was normal to have only one technician present. We know the pianist is Wangemann, and we know he was an Edison tecnician.... so the assumption is that it is Wangerman who acted as technician for this recording. This *could* be wrong, but unlikely. Whoever it is, it can't be Gouraud: he was Edison's agent in London from at least 1879 onward, and was not in New York. Edison sent his phograph to Gouraud in London in 1888.
I think she is just intuning the melody without actually singing any lyrics for the purpose of analysing the sound waves, this recording was not meant to be played back, like most sound records made by Edison, so naturally he would not be expecting that his silly records would be listened to way over 140 laters, via a global computer network.
This must be the first recorded Soprano!
@chrisz78 That sounds convincing then! Perhaps not Wangemann on the piano then, but someone else. But still most likely to be Wangemann's voice as engineer...
@chrisz78 in any event, I have been led to understand the cylinder itself states both the pianist and the recording engineer were both Theo Wangemann.... if someone else was there to speak into the recorder, that would be very odd.
The Bülow is not definitively known to be destroyed. The cylinder(s) could still turn up I guess.
@chrisz78 PS - super find with the sheet music! As to the speed, I have no idea - this is an "official" recording of the cylinder..... do we trust them to get it right?
I don't believe it was ever normal for the performer to introduce themslves on these rolls though. All the other Gouraud and Block cylinders awith spoken intros are introduced by someone other than the performer (with a few notable and rare exceptions). I think it must have been something to do with being able to watch the recorder closely to make sure it was running up to full speed and the roll had begun - which the performer could not see as easily as someone standing over the machine,.
You're sure this is not Florence Foster Jenkins? :))
FIRE 🔥
the world needs more nyiregyhazi, though.
TRUE Michael, and especially this of his earliest work, such as the few precious phrases we get to hear in The Lost Zeppelin movie.
Wow
which was the voice at the beginning?
what is the rustling noise?
The mechanics of the phonograph.
Obey
How do you know that the introduction here is spoken by Wangemann?
Too bad the sound quality of the Brahms cylinder is not as good as this, and too bad Liszt did not live another three years.
Comical?
It's a shame Edison had such horrible taste in music. It would be nice if there were more recordings from the calibur of Brahms and (to my knowledge destroyed) von Bulow.
Classical music was a niche market that the Victor Talking Machine Company filled and dominated in the late-1900s and into the 1910s. Check out records by The McKee Trio and The Neapolitan Trio during this time period here on UA-cam, and you’ll know what I’m talking about.