Fun fact. Andrew wrote the guitar parts and did lead guitar for this song. That's why the instrumental feel has more of an Eidola vibe than a DGD vibe. Brought a fresh feel to their music
There was shoutouts to the band members, but let’s not forget the late, great Tim Feerick on bass. He brought so much groove to this album, even if it’s a little less prominent in the mix of this song. He brought so much to the band.
Industry standard is to use auto-tune, but not in the way of fixing anything. You can usually tell when it’s a good/bad singer. With a bad singer, you’ll use it to fix their vocals, but most producers and mixers only use auto-tune to shape the already good vocal, and trim things, more than fixing a bad take or anything.
They'll use some post processing on the vocals from what I can tell but not really what I'd call auto-tune. Tillian can hit those notes live if you wanted to do a live reaction from them there's some good ones out there from warped tour a few years back.
You gotta listen to Amity affliction- not without my ghosts Amity affliction- drag the lake Amity affliction- all fucked up And plenty more. But those are top 3 i think youd really like to react too.
Paolo Nutini - Iron Sky (Abbey Road Live Session) You should really watch this video. It’s so good, powerful, soulful and the musicians are great. I get goosebumps every single time I hear it🙏🏽
I continue to champion some of their older songs; for Jonny, Lemon Meringue Tie, or for Kurt, Carl Barker. Both songs are incredibly unique, even for DGD, and not only are the vocalists different, but I think fundamentally their guitar playing in their first 5 or so albums is utterly different than it is now and is such a treat.
I was thinking the same thing regarding auto-tune listening to Demi Lovato's new album. SO MANY insane belted high notes, and there's definitely some processing to make it sound...well, processed. But like T-Pain and Ronnie Radke have both said, it's not like you can auto-tune a BAD vocalist and they'll sound good. It's pitch-correction, not pitch-creation. There might be a little bit of correction to hold a note more perfectly, or just to squeeze out that extra half step because the rest of the take was perfect except "this ooonne note", but none of that REALLY matters when talking about talent. The talent is there regardless of any post-processing that might occur.
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't actually think Will Swan is playing on this track, I believe Andrew did both guitars for this song. As for the auto-tune the vocals are definitely tuned, but you really do have to tune if you're going to work with all these layers, and you still want it to sound modern. I'm not sure if Kris Crummett (their producer) uses autotune or melodyne though.
I care, David. I care! I’d buy that shirt. I mean, nothing against Howie. It’s just a funny non sequitur. There’s no way he’s hitting that note..c’mon. That’s got to be digitized. The distortion on it sounds like a synthesizer.
maybe an unpopular opinion, but this is definitely one of my least favorite songs from the new album. probably the worst music video dgd has released as well, apparently it wasn't completely finished when it was released. would love for you to check out back on deck, one man's cringe, ember, or swallowed by eternity from the new album
If you like the swancore style you should listen to Royal Coda their newer song "We Slowly Lose Hope For Things To Come" is phenomenal and features purely Kurt Travis one of the earlier DGD leads
Yes, please do some Royal Coda! Will Swan is one of the guitar players and DGD's old singer, Kurt Travis is the front man. Their newest record is INCREDIBLE and I'm sure you would love it
Would love to see you react to Feels Bad Man. It’s a bit more pop than their usual, but it’s some of Tims best base playing on the album IMO. Love all you guys do here - you’ve re-ignited my drive to learn music (and music theory specifically)
on this same thread, going back in time and reacting to Summertime Gladness, which is probably one of their absolute weirdest song/video combos but a ton of fun
I'm not sure if it's auto-tuned but Tilian's vocals are definitely processed on the album and he uses a lot of layering. However he can definitely hit all the same notes live so I think it's mainly for effect, gives it a very "poppy" sound a lot of the time. Also in the future it'd be cool if you checked out one of their songs like "Nothing Shameful" or "For The Jeers" which have prominent vocal spots by the 2nd guitarist Andrew, he's a phenomenal singer in his own right. Or you could check out his own band Eidola, their song "Mutual Fear" has a good music video as well as a feature from Jon Mess so it'd be pretty familiar territory I think.
I think that's my problem with Tillian's vocals on a lot of the DGD albums. They always sound very processed. I liked how his vocals sounded a lot more on Dreamhouse by Tides of Man, for example. He's a great vocalist, I just wish they'd dial it back a bit on the production side to let him shine through more.
Most producers of modern music do use pitch correction. Even if a vocalist is fairly close in pitch, it just helps give vocal tracks a more polished sound.
Please please PLEASE react to “Ember” and “For the Jeers”. Honestly…. probably the best (which I’m sure will be debated) songs on the album!!!!!! Please please please! POR FAVOR!!!!!!
Jon's voice has evolved so much since the first album its insane. Hands down best scream vocalist in the game in terms of sound/clarity and it isn't even a competition
@@Orithous true there is some studio trickery going on but Tilian tends to be stronger at the beginning of tour then gets flatter bc he's always at the top of his range and blows his voice out
@@Orithous pitch correction is used all the time, it's nothing new. But to insinuate Tilian can't hit those highs live is just factually wrong. He doesn't hit it perfectly every single time, but he's still getting there
All I was saying was that I was not sure about auto tune or not because I don’t really know anything about it. I’m sure it’s used for the albums, But I have heard him in person and he does hit the high notes.
Also if you think it is impossible for him to hit the highest notes then you have not seen him in person. Yes sometimes it’s shaky and you can tell his voice gets tired but he can definitely sing it.
How do I request you reacting to the band "Gold Necklace"?? Especially the song Vibe with Me. The lead singer is ex lead vocalist for Dance Gavin Dance Kurt Travis and the band seems to have perfected the Soul Rock style. Knowing just how much you enjoy jazz and dance gavin dance, I think this would be something you'd love!
A lot of people will put bands in the “swan-core” sub genre of post hardcore. It’s a mess but my guess is it stems from DGD members being in like 3-4 different bands lol
Finally the trilogy is completed! Die Another Day was a solid DGD song, not to much of anything, not too little, and covered all the bases (kinda like a bowl of plain oatmeal, then dumping an ass load of maple syrup, but only from "cage-free" TREES). I love your reviews, especially the fundamental breakdowns of the individual instruments/vocals that go unnoticed! There is still alot more DGD to cover! Alot of their best songs dont have music videos but there are still some gems!
If you want to hear how Jon Mess sounded early on, you should check out And I Told Them I Invented Times New Roman from Downtown Battle Mountain. You also get to experience Johnny Craig era DGD
6:24 Of course there’s pitch correction. Auto tune isn’t really the right term to use. Any professional recording that doesn’t use some form of pitch correction is pretty obvious. Most artists use it to make the record sound better. I have seen this band live and Tilian sounds great without pitch correction. If you listen to their tree city session records it doesn’t use pitch correction because they’re live recordings.
Jon Mess' vocal progression has been amazing. If you haven't already, you should react to "And I Told Them I Invented Times New Roman" which is off their first full length album. It is without Tilian, but Jon Mess is there and sounds so different to what he sounds like today
I'd love to hear your reaction to One Man's Cringe, there's this really cool part where Tilian and Andrew go back and forth with vocals, it's beautiful
You should listen to their older stuff with Jon. His progression is incredible, he gets better every album. There was also an album here Will did the unclean vocals. Pleas do a react to Feels Bad Man
So couple of notes to some questions you asked and a request! 1) Kris Crummet has mixed, recorded, and produced every one of their albums 2) normally Will does all the writing but this song in particular was written by Andrew! 3) While everything has auto tune nowadays, I’ve seen them like 5-6 times and depending on when you catch em on your, Tilian can either definitely hit these notes or he’ll avoid/hit lower register to probably save his voice. 4) Andrew is the vocalist of Eidola, who you should definitely do a reaction to!! Perennial Philosophy or Mutual Fear ft. Jon Mess being some suggestions!
They do very minor correction, but Tilian is also a perfectionist and he is really really great at his layering and self-correction. Their song One in a Million off of Afterburner, I believe Tilian did 17 or so layers at the end? Created his own choir. Fuckin nuts. Andrew is also incredibly versatile in his singing too! Would love love love to hear you react to a song that Andrew has leads on! Their closer off of the new album, Have a Great Life really shows off their back and forth. As well as Swallowed By Eternity. Your videos are always so awesome. Really hope you can catch them live some time
DGD are considered to be in the post-hardcore genre, which is sometimes referred to as "screamo". I guess you could say it's somewhat a 'sub-genre' of emo, mixing melodic elements of "emo" or pop-punk with the heavier tendencies of hardcore [punk] music
Post-hardcore is defined as follows: is a punk rock music genre that maintains the aggression and intensity of hardcore punk but emphasizes a greater degree of creative expression. It was initially inspired by post-punk and noise rock. Like post-punk, the term has been applied to a broad constellation of groups
I would love a reaction to FLUORIDEINTHEHARDSELTZERWATER by Bilmuri and Jon Mess. Or anything by bilmuri. He’s done a few songs with dance Gavin dance.
For the Jazz lover in you, check out Eternity Forever. The vocalist for the band, Kurt Travis, was a former DGD vocalist. And the guitar work is fantastic. If you do it, I'll buy a Howie is an asshole shirt for sure. I watch most videos that you post that are rock focused. The pop and rap loses me because it isn't my focus of music. But I love your commentary!
Just found your channel and I'm loving your reactions. DGD is one of my favorite bands, Tillian is a great singer but have you heard or reacted to any of Jonny Craigs songs when he was in DGD, or even Emarosa or SLAVES?
For the auto-tune question you asked: No matter how great a singer's pitch is while recording, a pitch correction plugin is often applied during mixing, because frankly, our ears expect it. The sonic artifacts that a plugin like melodyne or autotune have can act as a sort of "glue" to help the vocals sit in the rest of the mix. A lot of mixers even run screams through pitch correction software. These plugins aren't only used to correct bad vocal takes anymore. Without the the software, it would still sound good. However, if you heard a mix of this song without pitch correction, you'd notice that something sounds a bit off. You just probably wouldn't be able to put your finger on it. For bands with really good vocalists, autotune is used more as an effect than an actual correction of pitch. I went to school for music production and audio engineering, along with being a musician myself. It's often a subtle but necessary step in the mixing process.
Something similar to this that I think would be cool to check out is a new song from The Dooo, GBSN, and John Silkie called _but I pretend i'ma beginner. They are all musicians on UA-cam that came together to put out a song.
Tilian does use some auto tune, like most vocalists though. Live his voice can hit the range, assuming he warmed up. There are definitely videos of him going from being real flat to hitting his range, where you can tell he didn't warm up
Tillian is no doubt exceptionally talented, but the vocals are heavily pitch corrected. He absolutely hits the notes, but for recording purposes they are tuned pitch perfect.
tides of man knowing is a good song to see tilians earlier voice. from 2009. im pretty sure john mess has been in dgd since 05 i think? so some older dgd stuff u might hear jon?
judging based on the young robot unboxing video, Id say if they use autotune its extremely little, and the mixer and masterer is kris crummett and he's been the same mixer since they started which i believe also gives the consistency the band gives.
you said you were looking to sere an evolution of jon's voice. that's a great opprotunity to go back and listen to the older jonny craig stuff. the music of that era was also incredible.
kris crummet produced all their albums also Tilians earliest bands is tides of man, also reccomend listening to whatever i say is royal ocean. one of the first dgd albums
That's a great video idea to go in on how both vocalists developed their voices. You could do Tree City Sessions to compare Jon on current versions vs original few albums, and tides of Man tilian
Fun fact. Andrew wrote the guitar parts and did lead guitar for this song. That's why the instrumental feel has more of an Eidola vibe than a DGD vibe. Brought a fresh feel to their music
There was shoutouts to the band members, but let’s not forget the late, great Tim Feerick on bass. He brought so much groove to this album, even if it’s a little less prominent in the mix of this song. He brought so much to the band.
I think Andrew actually wrote most if not all of the guitar parts on this song.
He did! We love Andrew🤘🏽
I'd be super curious to hear what you think of the Jonny Craig era of DGD
Play some Elder Goose!
Industry standard is to use auto-tune, but not in the way of fixing anything. You can usually tell when it’s a good/bad singer. With a bad singer, you’ll use it to fix their vocals, but most producers and mixers only use auto-tune to shape the already good vocal, and trim things, more than fixing a bad take or anything.
53?! You dont look a day over 43! Love your reviews man, been getting into bands I've ignored in my teen years.
Gotta do the whole album. It's incredible.
you need to hear thee whole album
They'll use some post processing on the vocals from what I can tell but not really what I'd call auto-tune. Tillian can hit those notes live if you wanted to do a live reaction from them there's some good ones out there from warped tour a few years back.
Adding to the Feels Bad Man request train that seems to be going on. My favorite song on the entire album.
Don’t sleep on Eidola. Andrew’s vocals are supreme.
I know youre past the DGD videos, but you have to check out War Machine. Their last single with Tilian and it showcases their talent for sure
Would love to see you react to "Into Your Arms" by The Maine Live with Sydney Sprague! or perhaps their song "Never Loved You a Little"
Been waiting for you to do this album
Man you'd really enjoy Tilian's old band Tides of Man, Dreamhouse and Empire Theory are GREAT albums.
I think you would really enjoy Two Secret Weapons
For the Jeers, PLEASE NEXT!
You gotta listen to
Amity affliction- not without my ghosts
Amity affliction- drag the lake
Amity affliction- all fucked up
And plenty more. But those are top 3 i think youd really like to react too.
Listen too a song by goregibson and the dooo called "...but i pretend I'm a beginner."
Hey man you should do the song Friday by Jessie reyaz and 6lack!!!
You should check out Yen by slipknot.
Have you reviewed the Mars Volta already?
Not yet
@@MusicShed Foals deserves a review please make it happen for us! ✌️
Love that nobody comes up for a Jon comparison. Jon is so wonderfully odd
Paolo Nutini - Iron Sky (Abbey Road Live Session)
You should really watch this video. It’s so good, powerful, soulful and the musicians are great. I get goosebumps every single time I hear it🙏🏽
I continue to champion some of their older songs; for Jonny, Lemon Meringue Tie, or for Kurt, Carl Barker. Both songs are incredibly unique, even for DGD, and not only are the vocalists different, but I think fundamentally their guitar playing in their first 5 or so albums is utterly different than it is now and is such a treat.
Would you be interested in checking out some new-age reggae?
Stick Figure - Weight of Sound
Think you'd really dig it.
I was thinking the same thing regarding auto-tune listening to Demi Lovato's new album. SO MANY insane belted high notes, and there's definitely some processing to make it sound...well, processed. But like T-Pain and Ronnie Radke have both said, it's not like you can auto-tune a BAD vocalist and they'll sound good. It's pitch-correction, not pitch-creation. There might be a little bit of correction to hold a note more perfectly, or just to squeeze out that extra half step because the rest of the take was perfect except "this ooonne note", but none of that REALLY matters when talking about talent. The talent is there regardless of any post-processing that might occur.
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't actually think Will Swan is playing on this track, I believe Andrew did both guitars for this song. As for the auto-tune the vocals are definitely tuned, but you really do have to tune if you're going to work with all these layers, and you still want it to sound modern. I'm not sure if Kris Crummett (their producer) uses autotune or melodyne though.
I care, David. I care!
I’d buy that shirt. I mean, nothing against Howie. It’s just a funny non sequitur.
There’s no way he’s hitting that note..c’mon. That’s got to be digitized. The distortion on it sounds like a synthesizer.
maybe an unpopular opinion, but this is definitely one of my least favorite songs from the new album. probably the worst music video dgd has released as well, apparently it wasn't completely finished when it was released. would love for you to check out back on deck, one man's cringe, ember, or swallowed by eternity from the new album
If you like the swancore style you should listen to Royal Coda their newer song "We Slowly Lose Hope For Things To Come" is phenomenal and features purely Kurt Travis one of the earlier DGD leads
Yes, please do some Royal Coda! Will Swan is one of the guitar players and DGD's old singer, Kurt Travis is the front man. Their newest record is INCREDIBLE and I'm sure you would love it
Either this or as we fall into deep waters
Once clinging to reeds is a classic song of 2022 for me
Kurt Travis sounds great in Royal coda and gold necklace but my God I hated him in Dance Gavin Dance
@@zechs5079same, man. Same.
Would love to see you react to Feels Bad Man. It’s a bit more pop than their usual, but it’s some of Tims best base playing on the album IMO. Love all you guys do here - you’ve re-ignited my drive to learn music (and music theory specifically)
My jam of the summer!
Song does in fact go hard
on this same thread, going back in time and reacting to Summertime Gladness, which is probably one of their absolute weirdest song/video combos but a ton of fun
Just came out, excited to see that one next
I'm not sure if it's auto-tuned but Tilian's vocals are definitely processed on the album and he uses a lot of layering. However he can definitely hit all the same notes live so I think it's mainly for effect, gives it a very "poppy" sound a lot of the time.
Also in the future it'd be cool if you checked out one of their songs like "Nothing Shameful" or "For The Jeers" which have prominent vocal spots by the 2nd guitarist Andrew, he's a phenomenal singer in his own right. Or you could check out his own band Eidola, their song "Mutual Fear" has a good music video as well as a feature from Jon Mess so it'd be pretty familiar territory I think.
What this guy said, 100 %!
I think that's my problem with Tillian's vocals on a lot of the DGD albums. They always sound very processed. I liked how his vocals sounded a lot more on Dreamhouse by Tides of Man, for example. He's a great vocalist, I just wish they'd dial it back a bit on the production side to let him shine through more.
100% all of this! I cannot recommend Eidola enough. Still Post Hardcore/Swancore and Andrew's voice is incredible.
For the Jeers and Mutual Fear are both amazing songs
Most producers of modern music do use pitch correction. Even if a vocalist is fairly close in pitch, it just helps give vocal tracks a more polished sound.
Do "Feels Bad Man" off their new album. Such a groovy tune and you get to see Tim Feerick in his element one last time.
Jon's outfit and dances are so iconic in that music video.
@@SmoofDizzle Jons strut is legendary
now you gotta do Feels Bad Man. :) Thank you for more DGD though.
Please please PLEASE react to “Ember” and “For the Jeers”. Honestly…. probably the best (which I’m sure will be debated) songs on the album!!!!!! Please please please! POR FAVOR!!!!!!
Jon's voice has evolved so much since the first album its insane. Hands down best scream vocalist in the game in terms of sound/clarity and it isn't even a competition
Eh, wouldn't say he's evolved too much from when he hit stride with Secret Band
jon is awesome but i give mike hranica from tdwp the trophy. love both tho
You need to give dayseeker a chance! I think you’d love Rory’s voice!
Their new song is AMAZING!!!!
@@dallasyarbrough yes!!! Already preordered my cd from them!! I’m soo excited for this new album. Now to get Dave to listen to them!!
More DGD! Feels Bad Man, Cream of the Crop, Ember, One Man’s Cringe. Always enjoy your reactions.
I don’t know about auto tune but I saw them live last year and tillian hits all these notes live.
They manipulate Tilian’s voice lmao. The vocals on strawberry wake are impossible lmao
@@Orithous true there is some studio trickery going on but Tilian tends to be stronger at the beginning of tour then gets flatter bc he's always at the top of his range and blows his voice out
@@Orithous pitch correction is used all the time, it's nothing new. But to insinuate Tilian can't hit those highs live is just factually wrong. He doesn't hit it perfectly every single time, but he's still getting there
All I was saying was that I was not sure about auto tune or not because I don’t really know anything about it. I’m sure it’s used for the albums, But I have heard him in person and he does hit the high notes.
Also if you think it is impossible for him to hit the highest notes then you have not seen him in person. Yes sometimes it’s shaky and you can tell his voice gets tired but he can definitely sing it.
How do I request you reacting to the band "Gold Necklace"?? Especially the song Vibe with Me. The lead singer is ex lead vocalist for Dance Gavin Dance Kurt Travis and the band seems to have perfected the Soul Rock style. Knowing just how much you enjoy jazz and dance gavin dance, I think this would be something you'd love!
Back on deck is amazing. Check that one out plz.
Swancore, a sub-genre? of Post-hardcore ;)
A lot of people will put bands in the “swan-core” sub genre of post hardcore. It’s a mess but my guess is it stems from DGD members being in like 3-4 different bands lol
@@linkgobrrr3358 that and will has his own record label lol, blue swan records
Watch “uneasy hearts live” it has all 3 of the clean singers from throughout the years
ahh finally! now do the rest of the album
Finally the trilogy is completed! Die Another Day was a solid DGD song, not to much of anything, not too little, and covered all the bases (kinda like a bowl of plain oatmeal, then dumping an ass load of maple syrup, but only from "cage-free" TREES). I love your reviews, especially the fundamental breakdowns of the individual instruments/vocals that go unnoticed! There is still alot more DGD to cover! Alot of their best songs dont have music videos but there are still some gems!
I think you meant honey.... maple syrup comes from trees....
Lol, thanks champ
If you love Tilian’s vocals here than you HAVE to react to Here Comes The Winner. His vocals are unbelievable
If you want to hear how Jon Mess sounded early on, you should check out And I Told Them I Invented Times New Roman from Downtown Battle Mountain. You also get to experience Johnny Craig era DGD
6:24 Of course there’s pitch correction. Auto tune isn’t really the right term to use. Any professional recording that doesn’t use some form of pitch correction is pretty obvious. Most artists use it to make the record sound better. I have seen this band live and Tilian sounds great without pitch correction. If you listen to their tree city session records it doesn’t use pitch correction because they’re live recordings.
Jon Mess' vocal progression has been amazing. If you haven't already, you should react to "And I Told Them I Invented Times New Roman" which is off their first full length album. It is without Tilian, but Jon Mess is there and sounds so different to what he sounds like today
I'd love to hear your reaction to One Man's Cringe, there's this really cool part where Tilian and Andrew go back and forth with vocals, it's beautiful
You should listen to their older stuff with Jon. His progression is incredible, he gets better every album. There was also an album here Will did the unclean vocals.
Pleas do a react to Feels Bad Man
So couple of notes to some questions you asked and a request!
1) Kris Crummet has mixed, recorded, and produced every one of their albums
2) normally Will does all the writing but this song in particular was written by Andrew!
3) While everything has auto tune nowadays, I’ve seen them like 5-6 times and depending on when you catch em on your, Tilian can either definitely hit these notes or he’ll avoid/hit lower register to probably save his voice.
4) Andrew is the vocalist of Eidola, who you should definitely do a reaction to!! Perennial Philosophy or Mutual Fear ft. Jon Mess being some suggestions!
Probably not auto tune, but they definitely use Melodyne in the studio.
FLOYA is a band I think youd love! Love the videos!
Every artist ever in the past 20+ years uses autotune however I’ve heard tillian hit notes live and god damn that man is talented
Goddamn finally David!!! Making us wait like this....not cool!
In my experience, Tilian sounds pretty similar live so IDK how much if any auto tune is used.
They do very minor correction, but Tilian is also a perfectionist and he is really really great at his layering and self-correction. Their song One in a Million off of Afterburner, I believe Tilian did 17 or so layers at the end? Created his own choir. Fuckin nuts.
Andrew is also incredibly versatile in his singing too! Would love love love to hear you react to a song that Andrew has leads on! Their closer off of the new album, Have a Great Life really shows off their back and forth. As well as Swallowed By Eternity.
Your videos are always so awesome. Really hope you can catch them live some time
Check out Andrew Wells' band, Eidola. Check out the song "Counterfeit Shrines".
More DGD! Also check out the adjacent swancore band Royal Coda!
DGD are considered to be in the post-hardcore genre, which is sometimes referred to as "screamo". I guess you could say it's somewhat a 'sub-genre' of emo, mixing melodic elements of "emo" or pop-punk with the heavier tendencies of hardcore [punk] music
Post-hardcore is defined as follows: is a punk rock music genre that maintains the aggression and intensity of hardcore punk but emphasizes a greater degree of creative expression. It was initially inspired by post-punk and noise rock. Like post-punk, the term has been applied to a broad constellation of groups
You introduced me to this band way back when and MAN it was of the pivotal points of my music listening enjoyment lol
You should check out Badflower!
Pretty sure they add some reverb that cuts off really quickly and layer his vocals so it could be mistaken for auto tune.
Bands to check out for amazing musicianship:
- Zeal & Ardor
- while she sleeps
- dresden dolls
- bury tomorrow
I saw Dresden Dolls open for Panic! wayyyyy back in the day.
They were amazing to watch live. I still vividly remember their cover of "War Pigs"
@@JJScrotus yes! Black sabbath is my favorite band and that is a hell of a cover they did.
dang man i wouldve never guessed u were in your 50s.. late 30s to mid 40s at most. whatever ur doing you look great
I would love a reaction to FLUORIDEINTHEHARDSELTZERWATER by Bilmuri and Jon Mess. Or anything by bilmuri. He’s done a few songs with dance Gavin dance.
Dude, if you're going forward with reacting to this band, regardless of what happened, at least do "Cream of the Crop". Absurdly musical track.
For the Jazz lover in you, check out Eternity Forever. The vocalist for the band, Kurt Travis, was a former DGD vocalist. And the guitar work is fantastic. If you do it, I'll buy a Howie is an asshole shirt for sure. I watch most videos that you post that are rock focused. The pop and rap loses me because it isn't my focus of music. But I love your commentary!
I see a lot of people getting mad about the auto tune vocals question; but I do know that they used a lot more vocal layering on this album!
Just found your channel and I'm loving your reactions. DGD is one of my favorite bands, Tillian is a great singer but have you heard or reacted to any of Jonny Craigs songs when he was in DGD, or even Emarosa or SLAVES?
For the auto-tune question you asked: No matter how great a singer's pitch is while recording, a pitch correction plugin is often applied during mixing, because frankly, our ears expect it. The sonic artifacts that a plugin like melodyne or autotune have can act as a sort of "glue" to help the vocals sit in the rest of the mix. A lot of mixers even run screams through pitch correction software. These plugins aren't only used to correct bad vocal takes anymore. Without the the software, it would still sound good. However, if you heard a mix of this song without pitch correction, you'd notice that something sounds a bit off. You just probably wouldn't be able to put your finger on it. For bands with really good vocalists, autotune is used more as an effect than an actual correction of pitch. I went to school for music production and audio engineering, along with being a musician myself. It's often a subtle but necessary step in the mixing process.
"Swancore?" Being a new discoverer of this band, I'm surprised...but dang it, that's not very masculine -sounding, lol
Something similar to this that I think would be cool to check out is a new song from The Dooo, GBSN, and John Silkie called _but I pretend i'ma beginner. They are all musicians on UA-cam that came together to put out a song.
i don't know if you've checked out Andrew Wells' band Eidola, but they're also fantastic. They have a video up for the song Counterfeit Shrines
I can’t believe you paused it at one of the best transpositions at 4:18
I pause at those times
i'd say probably 95% of bands and artists nowadays use some form of pitch correction in recordings, whether it's drastically noticeable or not
Their last 3 music vids "Synergy", "Pop-Off", and "Die Another Day" are connected
Check out dayseeker!!!! Their new song without me is INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!
You should react to “Waiting on you” or “cutting it close” or “talk to myself” by The band Rain City Drive!
Tilian does use some auto tune, like most vocalists though. Live his voice can hit the range, assuming he warmed up. There are definitely videos of him going from being real flat to hitting his range, where you can tell he didn't warm up
The voice scheme started with Mess and Johnny Craig. Mess left and will swan took over rough vocals then mess came back with tillian
Do a 5 by of the new DGD album! But if you want to see how Tillian evolved? His first song with DGD is Robot with the Human Hair pt 4
Can you please take a listen to The Doo, GBSN & John Silkie new song …But I Pretend I’m a Beginner
Tim will forever be missed❤
Tillian is no doubt exceptionally talented, but the vocals are heavily pitch corrected. He absolutely hits the notes, but for recording purposes they are tuned pitch perfect.
tides of man knowing is a good song to see tilians earlier voice. from 2009. im pretty sure john mess has been in dgd since 05 i think? so some older dgd stuff u might hear jon?
In "story of my Bros" acoustic version we can see his vocal Control alot better. Maybe there is a little edituon but still. Its insane.
judging based on the young robot unboxing video, Id say if they use autotune its extremely little, and the mixer and masterer is kris crummett and he's been the same mixer since they started which i believe also gives the consistency the band gives.
53 i thought you where younger 😄, your a cool dude btw, the piano demonstration is what made me sub, yeah he hits some really difficult notes
you said you were looking to sere an evolution of jon's voice. that's a great opprotunity to go back and listen to the older jonny craig stuff. the music of that era was also incredible.
You gotta watch Synergy, then Pop Off and then this (Die Another Day) to get the whole video scheme.
kris crummet produced all their albums
also Tilians earliest bands is tides of man, also reccomend listening to whatever i say is royal ocean. one of the first dgd albums
That's a great video idea to go in on how both vocalists developed their voices. You could do Tree City Sessions to compare Jon on current versions vs original few albums, and tides of Man tilian
I've waited so long for this video...
Please do Feels Bad Man. You'll like it
You need to do a reaction to Mutual Fear by Eidola (Andrew Wells’ band) ft Jon Mess
pretty much every modern artist uses pitch correction, some even live nowadays.
Please react to "feels bad man" by dgd! The video is hilarious and the song is amazing!
You also really really really need to check out ember off this album, tilians parts give me chill