After pinging, the odds that your opponent would survive the madder bomber was exactly 43997/1016064 (about 4.33%) So that outcome will occur about once every 23 times. Not even THAT unlucky ;)
tylerme14 actually because madder bomber can't overkill something and there was only 7 health on the board only 1 of 4 targets could survive. So the odds were 25% for both players and 50% for a draw... way less crazy than it seems
My math is correct. If you care enough to comment that I'm wrong, you might be interested enough to read through how to do the problem yourself: Start with a piece of paper with the numbers 4, 1, 1, 1 written on it. This represents the health of each character that could be hit. Draw 2 branches off this array. One will say 3, 1, 1, 1; and the second will say 4, 1, 1. These represent the new health of each character that survived the first bomb. The outcome where the Mage is hit is not included, as we are looking only for outcomes where he "wins". Write the odds of each of these outcomes happening: 1/4 for the 3-1-1-1, and 1/2 for the 3-1-1. Repeat branching process for each of the 6 bombs, keeping track of the probability of each path to victory, and then add the totals at the end. Your total should simplify to 43997/1016064, the number listed above. I hope you learned something today :3
Is there a proper way to calculate this though? What you're doing is brute force method of drawing the entire tree out. Like say bommber drops N bombs for n number of 1 health targets
If all targets had 1 health, it would be simple multiplication, but because one target has 4 health, it becomes complex in this way. I'm not aware of the "fast" method to calculate it, but I would assume there's an algorithm out there somewhere. If someone textured and packaged that as part of a Hearthstone Companion app, it would be easy money, honestly because of all of the missile and bomb effects in the game. (Imagine you have a 50/50 to draw Hammer of Wrath for lethal, but if you play the Novice Engineer you're out of mana for your Avenging Wrath...so which line is better?)
I'm with Krustypizza on this one. It's still a 6 mana 8\8, at the best of times (5, if you get a coin), but, on average, I'd say it's an 8 mana 8\8. It's not bad, but, generally, you can do better when you get to pick 1 out of 3 epic cards. He must have either gotten pretty unlucky in that regard, or just wasn't thinking clearly.
We saw only the end of the game in TodayInHearthstone/Trolden etc, but wtf with the entiere game we can realize how his deck was insane and how lucky he was, that's just unfair where is your justice now
Unless there is a joke I am not getting, or she maybe he was trolling... Congratulations NoidGamer. Around 7:26, "I am pregnant youtube" in caps. On another note, Amaz sucks at this game w0w. I thought he was a professional, apparently not.
In the end Amaz got what was coming to him for all the bad words he said to people in chat and bragging that he's an arena specialist. At this point I'm just watching him in hopes that he'll fail 12-win arena runs.
His opponent was NOT punished by hero powering first, though. Hero Power first increases chances to kill opponent (by quite a lot actually) but decreases chances you survive. Scamaz NeverLucky
Vincent Peng it's correct to hero power first but if he wanted to win he should have shot the scarab or the yeti. Because as it stood the Mage had a 25% to win with a 50% to draw. But shooting a minion down would change the odds to 33% to win with a 33% to draw. Which is the correct play if you want to win and the wrong play if you just don't want to lose.
Alex Miller I am pretty sure something is wrong in your calculation. No theory need here. The win rate cannot be that high for sure.(It's probably 1/7 = 14%) There will be 7 health in total(hero+minion) no matter where you hero power, right? So tell me, pin face or the minion?
![[Hearthstone] Let's Make Magic](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/k5Yj9hQu08U/mqdefault.jpg)
This is one of my favorite videos from Amaz, anyone else?
second only to that one game where the opponents sylvannas stole his 1/1 totem when he was 1 damage off lethal. i died laughing from that video haha
nope, i hate that lucky players...
Its my favorite too
There is no justice. Just ice, cold RNG.
Well, I guess there _is_ justice in Hearthstone. ^^
Amaz got lucky so many time
Shiftingerino Shaderino amaz is probably the luckiest hearthstone youtuber
After Kezan from the top, KK from Unstable Portal and 2 Firelands Portals, a perfect Madder Bomber. I only have 3 words: "fuck this game"
absolutely beautiful end to a game, I bet that guy played bomber with his eyes closed and prayed xD
"If there's any justice in Hearthstone." This proves it.
7:07 sound of a madman
O Trolden deve amar o Amaz kkkk
Quem não?
3:07 King Krush mouth opens as big as Amaz does!
omg this was the best video. I rewound the ending like 6 times haha
After pinging, the odds that your opponent would survive the madder bomber was exactly 43997/1016064 (about 4.33%)
So that outcome will occur about once every 23 times.
Not even THAT unlucky ;)
tylerme14 actually because madder bomber can't overkill something and there was only 7 health on the board only 1 of 4 targets could survive. So the odds were 25% for both players and 50% for a draw... way less crazy than it seems
My math is correct. If you care enough to comment that I'm wrong, you might be interested enough to read through how to do the problem yourself:
Start with a piece of paper with the numbers 4, 1, 1, 1 written on it. This represents the health of each character that could be hit.
Draw 2 branches off this array. One will say 3, 1, 1, 1; and the second will say 4, 1, 1. These represent the new health of each character that survived the first bomb. The outcome where the Mage is hit is not included, as we are looking only for outcomes where he "wins". Write the odds of each of these outcomes happening: 1/4 for the 3-1-1-1, and 1/2 for the 3-1-1. Repeat branching process for each of the 6 bombs, keeping track of the probability of each path to victory, and then add the totals at the end. Your total should simplify to 43997/1016064, the number listed above.
I hope you learned something today :3
Is there a proper way to calculate this though? What you're doing is brute force method of drawing the entire tree out. Like say bommber drops N bombs for n number of 1 health targets
If all targets had 1 health, it would be simple multiplication, but because one target has 4 health, it becomes complex in this way. I'm not aware of the "fast" method to calculate it, but I would assume there's an algorithm out there somewhere. If someone textured and packaged that as part of a Hearthstone Companion app, it would be easy money, honestly because of all of the missile and bomb effects in the game. (Imagine you have a 50/50 to draw Hammer of Wrath for lethal, but if you play the Novice Engineer you're out of mana for your Avenging Wrath...so which line is better?)
Watching the last few moments in 0.5 speed is even more hilarious. Amaz looks like an anime character.
After that game, Amaz spent 3 months in an asylum, and was never the same.
Haha, the best thing I've seen this week!
"He played Madder Bomber, what's the worst that could happen?"
No justice Confirmed
I assumed he plays Tavern Brawl when I saw the thumbnail
XD Get shrekt Amaz xD *Ben Brode's laughing somewhere in the distance*
anyone laughing and staring at amaz when king krush was summoned by the mage? XD
When you play a secret and the enemy plays kezan mystic and then they took your secret
Is it still a secret ?
Now that was beautiful.
HAHAHAHAHAHA your face was the best pls dont ever stop making videos
Yogg would never do that.
May someone please tell me what deck tracker he's using?
Maybe its just editing,try googling it
haven't seen amaz drop a mic before
"Where's your justice now?"
such skill
it was oddly satisfying to watch this XD
it s a very good fun amaz....never lucky
6:59 welcom3
Praise RNGesus
"Damn dude, NEVER LUCKY"
Why does amaz record from his bathroom?
believe in the heart of the cards
Always have trust in the cards
youre not right for rockbiter, its not the only card, who do 3 dmg for 1 mana, there is also fiery win axe
this game was complete nut balls... i watched it live it was sooo funny...
Whats the worst part of this?
He has arcane giant in arena...
because he had 6 spells.... 3 backstaps...
I'm with Krustypizza on this one.
It's still a 6 mana 8\8, at the best of times (5, if you get a coin), but, on average, I'd say it's an 8 mana 8\8. It's not bad, but, generally, you can do better when you get to pick 1 out of 3 epic cards. He must have either gotten pretty unlucky in that regard, or just wasn't thinking clearly.
Imma Getcha 10 mana 8 8 is a really good topdeck in arena... i preffer that than topdecking a 1 1 in turn 15...
We saw only the end of the game in TodayInHearthstone/Trolden etc, but wtf with the entiere game we can realize how his deck was insane and how lucky he was, that's just unfair where is your justice now
So much skill
Nice hairstyle bud! 👍
Such a soul crushing way to lose in Hearthstone!
Ppl think there is no justice i think this is justice right here..
Justice bombs from above!
There is no justice 😂😂👌
Hey, where's your madder bomber now?
GET REKT AMAZ!
名留青史成為後人歌頌的經典吧
My favourite moment is here xD
guys plss Hearthstone is SKILL BASED competitive gaaaaa..... fuck it I cant even finish that sentence.
Unless there is a joke I am not getting, or she maybe he was trolling...
Congratulations NoidGamer. Around 7:26, "I am pregnant youtube" in caps.
On another note, Amaz sucks at this game w0w. I thought he was a professional, apparently not.
All that bad karma finally paying off
*karma
Shiftingerino Shaderino Yeah true, that's what I meant.
In the end Amaz got what was coming to him for all the bad words he said to people in chat and bragging that he's an arena specialist. At this point I'm just watching him in hopes that he'll fail 12-win arena runs.
Dat preview.
Amaz put a blame on his subs
And then instantly dropped his mic accidently somehow
INSTANT KARMA
FeelsBatMan
LUL i miss the bathroom streams... feelsbadman
thats my hearthstone luck in one video
it was lethal if he had just played one of the 3 mana cost minion + hero power, the fatige would give him the win
Fucking REKT!!!!! Lmao
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
wow so skill
I think it's really odd that counterspell doesnt counter weapons.
a similar thing happened to kripp lol
wait how did he get TWO arcane giants. why???
You got Scmaz'd
justice?? sorry... all out of justice XD
get punished! Flame strike would have dealt with that potential DoArgus too
Amaz got Scamaz-ed
did someone say ... SALT?
JUSTICE DEMANDS RETRUBITION
Hearthsone is a skill game
LUL Hearthstone such a competetive skillbased game LUL
No f'n way....
What a god.
Did someone said BOMB?!
LMAO THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
Ugh... this reminds me of all those games of poker, where you have a huge odds advantage and lose anyway.
Turns out to be punished by dropping Eviscerate instead of shadow strike
His opponent was NOT punished by hero powering first, though.
Hero Power first increases chances to kill opponent (by quite a lot actually) but decreases chances you survive.
Scamaz NeverLucky
bomber turn? he do hero power first
Vincent Peng it's correct to hero power first but if he wanted to win he should have shot the scarab or the yeti. Because as it stood the Mage had a 25% to win with a 50% to draw. But shooting a minion down would change the odds to 33% to win with a 33% to draw. Which is the correct play if you want to win and the wrong play if you just don't want to lose.
Alex Miller I am pretty sure something is wrong in your calculation. No theory need here. The win rate cannot be that high for sure.(It's probably 1/7 = 14%) There will be 7 health in total(hero+minion) no matter where you hero power, right? So tell me, pin face or the minion?
When people tell me that HS is skill based.
Overconficence man, you know what they say...
It killed the cat ?
nop, IS A SLOW AND INSIDIOUS KILLER ..
Alexandru Alex Killer of cats, right ?
6:36
Nice haircut... looks better. :D
so thats how it feels when Heartstone F.... you really hard
had to seeit again lmao
that was so unlucky
Amaz are u streaming from the bathroom
coulda gone face with eviscerate
a hue hue hue
What are you know about LUCK?
rip ears
Thanks trolden for the spoiler
No Justice
Eh, it looks insane but there's actually a 12% chance for this outcome to happen.
Nothing too crazy.
word of advice.... wait until after you do something bad ass to "drop the mic"
Amaz got scammed.
0 dislike kkkkkk we like to see Amaz fucked up
See Amaz mage is the best, the only way to beat it is to steal its cards.
Lol hahaha
BM Scamaz got rekt
LOL How does it feel to be pearl harbor?
A massa azarado