When Kyler Murray catches fire he plays like a Top-2 NFL Quarterback. And when he's dialed in (which is what he seems to be this season) he can make a Bottom-Dweller perform like a Wildcarder. Plus, he's exciting (ie, a ticket-seller). If a Franchise has any doubts as to whether he's a Franchise QB then that Franchise needs to check its Franchise management.
Yea ok! Coming from the same fans who said you guys were gonna win a SB with K.K! Y'all will be drafting top 12 each of the next two seasons. Not counting this embarrassment of a season!
Cards are 3-2 since Kyler came back, with wins vs ATL, @PIT, and @PHI. They were competitive in a loss at Houston with a healthy CJ Stroud and Tank Dell, and lost to the 49ers but put up 29 points. And this is with a below average skill position group and an awful defense. Get Kyler one of MHJ, Rome Odunze, or Malik Nabers with one pick, and then get either the Georgia or Alabama OT or one of the Alabama defensive players like Turner or McKinstry. Cards will be a double digit win team next year.
Simms makes so many great points. He’s so right about building around the qb and letting them develop. Kyler has shown moments where he can be elite with not much talent around him so imagine you build around him and he keeps getting better.
It's a bit strange that year after year there seems to be so much redundant conversation of QB's in an organized team sport. Coaching has an impact of unlocking and hindering a player's potential and so do the pieces around them. Look at the Chiefs struggles without Hill and Bieniemy. Look at the Eagles struggles without Steichen and Gannon. If Gannon is having success with Murray why should they start over instead of just adding pieces to surround him?
I absolutely loved what Chris just said. G Ms are too reliant on QBs and if they ain't a super star straight away they look for the next. How many 1st in the draft win Superbowls. I bet it's not many. The greatest QBs come from late 1st round and beyond. I think generally their with good organizations. Maybe being first in the draft is a curse?.
Murray is an elite QB he just hasn’t any weapons really the last two years and the team crumbled around him last season due to injuries. Murray was a 2x Pro Bowler in his first 3 years playing at an mvp level last time he had real talent in 20/2021. This year he has nothing around him and he’s winning. Get him some real talent and he’ll be back in the pro bowl and they’ll be in the playoffs.
@@seancue2803we have seen him with great weapons. Cardinals had the best record in the league and he was a MVP candidate. However team fell apart because it’s still coach by Kingsbury
@@joegardner851 Exactly. He had 3 receivers in the top 20. He had the Cards offense in the top 6. Kyler is legit. Give him some pieces. Draft a stud wr. Then go after a Nike Evans or Stefon Diggs. This team will be a playoff team.
My issue is Gannon never even once insinuated that Kyler would not be the QB. From day one, he said Kyler was the guy. Florio is the one who keeps coming up with this scenario where the Cards move on from Kyler.
I´m a ravens fan saying this but this guy is very underrated. the homework stuff and the ugly playoff loss has made some people think that murray is garbage or average,
This is so idiotic. I don’t know what Florios problem is it’s like he can’t admit he was wrong. Arizona isn’t moving on from Kyler, they’ve said that all along. For some reason Florio loves to keep pushing this BS. AZ can be a playoff team with Murray next year with all the resources they have to build, none of these QBs coming out are better than him they’d be idiotic to move on. They’re just pushing this crap to drive clicks.
I think people are aloud to grow up, sometimes we forget these football players are young, and make their mistakes in the limelight. I can remember when I was in my early twenties. Thank God I'm not in their situation.
Non of the qbs coming out are as good as Kyler, hes shown he can play at a high level in the league. Maye and Williams have upside but Kyler is a dude, give him talent on O and talent on D and you can compete with anyone, Kyler is better than jalen hurts
The cardinals are a 8-9 team this year if Murray was never hurt for the first half of the season. With the 4-12 tank record plus 2 firsts a top 5 pick a top 18 pick, 1 second 36th overall and 3 high 3rd round picks. Plus money to spend in the offseason. There’s no reason the cardinals can’t be a 10-7 wildcard team next year
remember this was also the guy (florio) who criticized gannon and ossenfort for showing support to kyler by going to his statue unveiling because it was "too close to the draft"
Cardinals would probably be 8-9 or better if murray played all season. They almost started 3-0 without him minus a few plays. They are much better than their record shows. They have some good draft capital and salary cap space
Florio knows damn well the eagles not getting Fangio was totally on the eagles. So you're telling that Gannon had his defense playong at a wlite level and no one was going take interest in him?....tf outta here with that narrative.
It's always a toss up drafting qbs. I think cards in a good spot to just trade pick to highest bidder. Hopefully that team would have a higher pick as well so you can still draft a difference maker
Oh is that right ? What has Kyler done in FIVE Years ? NOTHING.. he's a BUST. He has NEVER thrown for over 4K and never had over 26 TDS... in FIVE friggen Years ! Time to MOVE on. If I was a Cardinals fan I'd be furious.
@misinfluence that's what I'm getting at, the first three picks will be qbs. Get to 4 or 5 and pick him. There should be teams with top picks trying to jump each other.
@catchemcarlisle5655 I think it's possible. Teams get real hot on qbs and overvalue them so I think Daniels could go 3. Qbs will be an even bigger commodity this year based on all the injuries across the league
Cardinals need to prey chicago takes a qb. Take Marvin jr, and with later pick in 1st take tackle from either oregon state, Georgia, or bama. With the second you take the cb king from penn st. Trade back into mid 2nd take Texas dt sweat. In free agency you go get Christian Wilkins, Josh Allen, and maybe another corner for defense
Kyler is a stud. If he gets his head right & commits to football. He has a chance to be Great. Wish Cardinals get rid of him so he stays away from the NFC West.
He’s shown he’s elite with talent around him. AZ just has to get him some weapons and he’ll be back in the pro bowl. There aren’t 7-8 QBs more gifted than Murray in the sport
JG also told Dobbs a day or so before he was traded that he would continue to be the starter. The fact is, what else is he going to say other than Kyler is an amazing QB? If you're try to sell something, you talk about the great aspects and don't mention anything bad.
they were 1-8 without him and if they win next week will be 4-4 with him with a worse team that lost WR1 and a bunch of defensive guys. Its hilarious how anyone ever tries to doubt Murray is top 10. Theres no stat that says he isn't... at all
I'm a Seahawks fan and I'd love it if they gave up on Murray because I suspect a rookie would be a downgrade. But in today's instant gratification atmosphere in sports, no franchise seems to have the luxury of taking time to build something. Hell, Eagles fans are already calling for Hurts to be taken out in the desert and abandoned and the entire coaching staff fired. (And they legit still could get hot in the playoffs and win it all) Fans are obsessed with minute to minute perfection and their overly amplified voices on social media have made the NFL worse.
Florio: "I got nothing against Jonathan Gannon... except that he's known for lying through his teeth ! " Florio's special brand of perverse besmirching through innuendos an outright fabrications is so entertaining.
@@richardernsberger5692 rebuild year. They are loaded with premium picks and cap space. They have been very competitive despite depleted roster this season
Or, and hold on to your seat, Gannon wasn’t bullshitting and Kyler is our guy. He is and you’ll all be on his nuts next year when he’s lighting up defenses
Mike Florio a show. Why? Professional foot play ball players want to win this whole concept of tanking or a dysfunctional organization has to do with personal bias rather than how the Cardinals have played. They are playing harder with a roster that has limited talent. Gannon and his coaching staff have shown then selves to be superior evaluators of talent. Last time I listened to Florio he talked about how stupid the Cardinals were for trading Dobbs. How has that mediocre analysis held up little Mikey?
Remember unproven QBs that you really have no idea if they can be an NFL QB. At least you knw what you have with kyler Murray and you knw he can play in the NFL.
K-1 that being siad I see nothing wrong with having more then one good QB and letting him develop and event with these 11 picks in this loaded draft. That tampering wasn’t shit,it was the Egales being hoes. I say we pick a QB Pinnex Jr with the second 1st and in 2 years he takes over or you have 2 Super Bowls and paying K-1 for the 2nd time is a good problem to have.
@@mikemeyer5973manning and luck are the only names in my mind. We got robbed of a prime Andrew Luck because the Indianapolis Colts couldn’t build a line to protect a true generational talent
We took off doubt us against wait until next year we have picks and everybody getting better when were locked in its over eagles fans crying and our new system is falling in place.🎉
I would take penix over kyler as a bigger qb who's gonna be on a rookie deal all day. Kyler has played 5 seasons and has played mediocre for all but 1 year
@@tru3dialect 2020 he played at an elite level. Some of his decline can be due to lack of consistent play calling from kingsbury who’s second half record is horrid dating over a decade long before Kyler
100% disagree... What has Kyler done ? He's had 5 Years... He's NEVER thrown for over 4K... He's never thrown over 26 TDs. Justin Fields... what has he done in THREE Years ? NOTHING... He hasn't thrown for over 2500 Yards or 18 TDS. ENOUGH with pushing these Black QBS that can RUN. Ughhhh If I was a Cardinal or Bears fan... YUCK first of all... Secondly I'd be furious if we had such a high draft pick and didn't roll the dice on a NEW QB. You trade Kyler or Feilds get a high draft pick in this draft to help build and just roll the dice again. I see Chris's point... like Buffalow shouldn't have given up on Allen.... Green Bay shouldn't give up on Love.... But I'd say we've seen enough of of Young to know he's a BUST.. yes just ONE Year. Carolina would be stupid if they can take another shot and don't.
Kyler isn’t going anywhere. He’s incredible
Dude still makes some dumb headed mistakes sometimes though, but if we get a good team around him he could take us far
When Kyler Murray catches fire he plays like a Top-2 NFL Quarterback.
And when he's dialed in (which is what he seems to be this season) he can make a Bottom-Dweller perform like a Wildcarder.
Plus, he's exciting (ie, a ticket-seller).
If a Franchise has any doubts as to whether he's a Franchise QB then that Franchise needs to check its Franchise management.
Chris Simms = 100% correct. our team has been competitive in every game. we are only a few pieces away from having a winning record.
Yea ok! Coming from the same fans who said you guys were gonna win a SB with K.K! Y'all will be drafting top 12 each of the next two seasons. Not counting this embarrassment of a season!
Cards are 3-2 since Kyler came back, with wins vs ATL, @PIT, and @PHI. They were competitive in a loss at Houston with a healthy CJ Stroud and Tank Dell, and lost to the 49ers but put up 29 points. And this is with a below average skill position group and an awful defense. Get Kyler one of MHJ, Rome Odunze, or Malik Nabers with one pick, and then get either the Georgia or Alabama OT or one of the Alabama defensive players like Turner or McKinstry. Cards will be a double digit win team next year.
You haven't really though
@@wickedrs_716 why are you so worried about the Cards?
@@kurtangle6516 so worried. I'm so worried about a team who has 6 playoff wins since 1950!
no one is talking about this guy balling out only pft love the murray appreciation
Bwahahahaha Murray is a JOKE... I hope your team has him. hahahahahaha
@@mikehouse68 hey casual im not even a cardinals fan, i just appreciate good qb play and before you type “he l0v3z c0d” save it you don’t know ball
Simms makes so many great points. He’s so right about building around the qb and letting them develop. Kyler has shown moments where he can be elite with not much talent around him so imagine you build around him and he keeps getting better.
It's a bit strange that year after year there seems to be so much redundant conversation of QB's in an organized team sport. Coaching has an impact of unlocking and hindering a player's potential and so do the pieces around them. Look at the Chiefs struggles without Hill and Bieniemy. Look at the Eagles struggles without Steichen and Gannon. If Gannon is having success with Murray why should they start over instead of just adding pieces to surround him?
I absolutely loved what Chris just said. G Ms are too reliant on QBs and if they ain't a super star straight away they look for the next. How many 1st in the draft win Superbowls. I bet it's not many. The greatest QBs come from late 1st round and beyond. I think generally their with good organizations. Maybe being first in the draft is a curse?.
@@Nevets_2770 I agree, but he's not a bad QB, it's where he is maybe that's why high draft picks don't do that well at QB?
Wasn't Kyler Murray drafted #1?
Kyler is way better than Tua in my opinion in more ways than athleticism
You put Kyler with that offense, and its not even fair for defenses.
He’s better than hurts.
Murray is an elite QB he just hasn’t any weapons really the last two years and the team crumbled around him last season due to injuries.
Murray was a 2x Pro Bowler in his first 3 years playing at an mvp level last time he had real talent in 20/2021. This year he has nothing around him and he’s winning. Get him some real talent and he’ll be back in the pro bowl and they’ll be in the playoffs.
@@seancue2803we have seen him with great weapons. Cardinals had the best record in the league and he was a MVP candidate. However team fell apart because it’s still coach by Kingsbury
@@joegardner851 Exactly. He had 3 receivers in the top 20. He had the Cards offense in the top 6. Kyler is legit. Give him some pieces. Draft a stud wr. Then go after a Nike Evans or Stefon Diggs. This team will be a playoff team.
Kyler would look like a combination between Lamar Jackson and Drew Brees if he played with the eagles roster
My issue is Gannon never even once insinuated that Kyler would not be the QB. From day one, he said Kyler was the guy. Florio is the one who keeps coming up with this scenario where the Cards move on from Kyler.
Gannon literally said he took the job because of Murray.
I´m a ravens fan saying this but this guy is very underrated. the homework stuff and the ugly playoff loss has made some people think that murray is garbage or average,
Yup he's got as best a chance as anybody with the right pieces. That playoff loss was nasty but I'll throw most of it on Kingsbury and his scheme.
All that plus the important point that the Cardinals are bad.
I’m loving everything you’re saying Chris Simms. It’s like you’re saying what we as Cardinals fans are dreaming.
Florio taking L's as usual lol
This is so idiotic. I don’t know what Florios problem is it’s like he can’t admit he was wrong.
Arizona isn’t moving on from Kyler, they’ve said that all along. For some reason Florio loves to keep pushing this BS. AZ can be a playoff team with Murray next year with all the resources they have to build, none of these QBs coming out are better than him they’d be idiotic to move on. They’re just pushing this crap to drive clicks.
Dudes are rolling with the headlines, earlier this year they did nothing but smack talk on Kyler and ship tanking for Williams.
Big Ben is the perfect example of a QB becoming a star when he was surrounded by greatness.
I dont understand this, big ben was drafted on a very good steelers team and went undefeated for a ton of games
I’ve been a Kyler fan way before we drafted him and I still believe in him he’s gonna be a Cardinal for a long time!
I think people are aloud to grow up, sometimes we forget these football players are young, and make their mistakes in the limelight. I can remember when I was in my early twenties. Thank God I'm not in their situation.
Non of the qbs coming out are as good as Kyler, hes shown he can play at a high level in the league. Maye and Williams have upside but Kyler is a dude, give him talent on O and talent on D and you can compete with anyone, Kyler is better than jalen hurts
The cardinals are a 8-9 team this year if Murray was never hurt for the first half of the season. With the 4-12 tank record plus 2 firsts a top 5 pick a top 18 pick, 1 second 36th overall and 3 high 3rd round picks. Plus money to spend in the offseason. There’s no reason the cardinals can’t be a 10-7 wildcard team next year
Florio wants them to keep Kyler all of a sudden after one game?
He's always been a top 5 QB
remember this was also the guy (florio) who criticized gannon and ossenfort for showing support to kyler by going to his statue unveiling because it was "too close to the draft"
How did Florio get a show? 😂😂
Cardinals would probably be 8-9 or better if murray played all season. They almost started 3-0 without him minus a few plays. They are much better than their record shows. They have some good draft capital and salary cap space
He would definitely be 8-9. He's been playing against playoff teams this entire stretch of games and would be 10-7 or better if he started week 1
I beg people who try to blame Murray for the Rams playoff loss to go back and watch the OL during that game. They were hobbled and flailing.
This show would be unwatchable without Chris Simms
Florio losing it is kinda sad
Where's homies Josh Dobbs jersey he was wearing a month ago? Still shittin on the Cardinals.😂
Florio knows damn well the eagles not getting Fangio was totally on the eagles. So you're telling that Gannon had his defense playong at a wlite level and no one was going take interest in him?....tf outta here with that narrative.
It's always a toss up drafting qbs. I think cards in a good spot to just trade pick to highest bidder. Hopefully that team would have a higher pick as well so you can still draft a difference maker
Hell no. Pick MHJ.
Oh is that right ? What has Kyler done in FIVE Years ? NOTHING.. he's a BUST. He has NEVER thrown for over 4K and never had over 26 TDS... in FIVE friggen Years ! Time to MOVE on. If I was a Cardinals fan I'd be furious.
@misinfluence that's what I'm getting at, the first three picks will be qbs. Get to 4 or 5 and pick him. There should be teams with top picks trying to jump each other.
@@johaw105 nope, the draft no matter what will be Williams, Maye, MHJ. Arizona will have to trade up to 3 or wont get harrison
@catchemcarlisle5655 I think it's possible. Teams get real hot on qbs and overvalue them so I think Daniels could go 3. Qbs will be an even bigger commodity this year based on all the injuries across the league
Give this dude a solid squad and you are a contender! Kyler is different
Florio hated doing this segment for sure. Chris got me alllll hyped for next year
Cardinals need to prey chicago takes a qb. Take Marvin jr, and with later pick in 1st take tackle from either oregon state, Georgia, or bama. With the second you take the cb king from penn st. Trade back into mid 2nd take Texas dt sweat. In free agency you go get Christian Wilkins, Josh Allen, and maybe another corner for defense
Kyler is a stud. If he gets his head right & commits to football. He has a chance to be Great. Wish Cardinals get rid of him so he stays away from the NFC West.
Love to see appreciation from a division rival 😂 good luck in the playoffs
He’s shown he’s elite with talent around him. AZ just has to get him some weapons and he’ll be back in the pro bowl. There aren’t 7-8 QBs more gifted than Murray in the sport
It’s so funny to watch florio die on this hill that Kyler is done in AZ. Guy is a clown
JG also told Dobbs a day or so before he was traded that he would continue to be the starter. The fact is, what else is he going to say other than Kyler is an amazing QB? If you're try to sell something, you talk about the great aspects and don't mention anything bad.
Kyler can be that dude. Tua and Bryce Love suck
Ok I remember why I put Mike Florio on my "don´t recommend channel" list... this guy is a Cardinals Hater trough and trough...
It's the Mahomes syndrome. Everyone wants the next Mahomes.
Cards could win the Super Bowl and Florio would still hate on them. You lose all credibility when you hate a player and team and ignore the facts
they were 1-8 without him and if they win next week will be 4-4 with him with a worse team that lost WR1 and a bunch of defensive guys. Its hilarious how anyone ever tries to doubt Murray is top 10. Theres no stat that says he isn't... at all
I'm a Seahawks fan and I'd love it if they gave up on Murray because I suspect a rookie would be a downgrade. But in today's instant gratification atmosphere in sports, no franchise seems to have the luxury of taking time to build something. Hell, Eagles fans are already calling for Hurts to be taken out in the desert and abandoned and the entire coaching staff fired. (And they legit still could get hot in the playoffs and win it all) Fans are obsessed with minute to minute perfection and their overly amplified voices on social media have made the NFL worse.
Kylers like the 8th highest paid QB
Dan Marino why to this day its still a cool name to say. Legends never die
Florio: "I got nothing against Jonathan Gannon... except that he's known for lying through his teeth ! " Florio's special brand of perverse besmirching through innuendos an outright fabrications is so entertaining.
Despite having one of the cheapest teams, cardinals are fighting for a playoff spot if Kyler was healthy all season.
He Wasn't Today.
Cardinals are gonna be super legit in the next couple of years. Team on the rise with a phenomenal QB
Team on the rise? The record says otherwise.
@@richardernsberger5692 rebuild year. They are loaded with premium picks and cap space. They have been very competitive despite depleted roster this season
Many tipped Cardinals to go 0-17 so you're wrong. The record does indicate its a team on the rise.
4 out of 12 with no quarterback until late season. Only really out of one game with SF. JG is a phenom to soon be recognized.
Or, and hold on to your seat, Gannon wasn’t bullshitting and Kyler is our guy. He is and you’ll all be on his nuts next year when he’s lighting up defenses
Crazy that he can see over all those giants, he's 5'10" with cleats on.
Florio is so anti AZ everything it's hillarious
Mike Florio a show. Why? Professional foot play ball players want to win this whole concept of tanking or a dysfunctional organization has to do with personal bias rather than how the Cardinals have played. They are playing harder with a roster that has limited talent.
Gannon and his coaching staff have shown then selves to be superior evaluators of talent.
Last time I listened to Florio he talked about how stupid the Cardinals were for trading Dobbs.
How has that mediocre analysis held up little Mikey?
Florio taking an L again. What’s new. Kyler isn’t going anywhere
These clowns were talking about how they should trade him 😂😂😂
Florio is a 🤡
Florio is a massive L
Let Chris cook
Remember unproven QBs that you really have no idea if they can be an NFL QB. At least you knw what you have with kyler Murray and you knw he can play in the NFL.
Sup Chris..Josh Allen. 30 for 35..385 yards 4 TDs. And runs for 70..and 1 rush TD .zero picks.
Different regieam and coaches. They didn't say the same a out K1 THIS Year.
Florio is a one trick miniature pony when it comes to his Kyler takes. So pathetic.
K1 all the way
K-1 that being siad I see nothing wrong with having more then one good QB and letting him develop and event with these 11 picks in this loaded draft. That tampering wasn’t shit,it was the Egales being hoes. I say we pick a QB Pinnex Jr with the second 1st and in 2 years he takes over or you have 2 Super Bowls and paying K-1 for the 2nd time is a good problem to have.
Only person that needs to go is Florio.
Who’s the closest comp to LeBron James for the nfl? In respect to the hype coming into the league and then delivering?
Peyton manning probably
@@mikemeyer5973manning and luck are the only names in my mind. We got robbed of a prime Andrew Luck because the Indianapolis Colts couldn’t build a line to protect a true generational talent
@tylerholt6828 he’s out of the conversation after this season. Even if you want to argue that it wasn’t his fault.
@tylerholt6828 Paints his nails, cried after a game, and lost 5 times this season. That sound like Lebron James coming into the league?
@tylerholt6828 I don’t think you understand analogies
K1 is him
We took off doubt us against wait until next year we have picks and everybody getting better when were locked in its over eagles fans crying and our new system is falling in place.🎉
Give Chris his show, and retire Florio…
Hard to be with shit ownership!!!
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Phil Simms was not awesome. C'mon Chris. Stop it with that. Every time you say that it sounds ridiculous.
Gannon is definitely a liar.
The only way Murray is a franchise QB is if he avoids getting hit 100% of the time, which we all know is impossible.
Kyler gets hit alot. His injuries aren't really from being hit.
Murray's injuries haven't been from getting hit. They are from lineman landing on him / non contact injuries, twisting ankle which any player can do
Kyler does get hit a lot but he protects himself, his biggest weakness has been non contact injuries.
I would take penix over kyler as a bigger qb who's gonna be on a rookie deal all day. Kyler has played 5 seasons and has played mediocre for all but 1 year
He’s played at an elite level in multiple years
@@Zach_82 when?? Lol I've watched every game he's played in the NFL oh yeah and the year he did play well he fell off late in the season
@@tru3dialect 2020 he played at an elite level. Some of his decline can be due to lack of consistent play calling from kingsbury who’s second half record is horrid dating over a decade long before Kyler
@@Zach_82 dude is getting paid 230 million dollars yet fanboys make excuse after excuse lol
@@tru3dialect 4th youngest qb to 10,000 passing yards. First qb in nfl history to throw for 70 tds and rush for 20 in their first 3 years
100% disagree... What has Kyler done ? He's had 5 Years... He's NEVER thrown for over 4K... He's never thrown over 26 TDs. Justin Fields... what has he done in THREE Years ? NOTHING... He hasn't thrown for over 2500 Yards or 18 TDS. ENOUGH with pushing these Black QBS that can RUN. Ughhhh If I was a Cardinal or Bears fan... YUCK first of all... Secondly I'd be furious if we had such a high draft pick and didn't roll the dice on a NEW QB. You trade Kyler or Feilds get a high draft pick in this draft to help build and just roll the dice again. I see Chris's point... like Buffalow shouldn't have given up on Allen.... Green Bay shouldn't give up on Love.... But I'd say we've seen enough of of Young to know he's a BUST.. yes just ONE Year. Carolina would be stupid if they can take another shot and don't.
Your the definition of you only watch film and don’t look at the context of the situations
Ignorant take
Boneheaded take. Jealousy and hatred aren't NFL stats.
Dear lord you are lost brother
Translation, “hes not quarterbacky”