Nice review. at 60 plus years old, the Light bee got me back out into the woods (my first love) and riding again .. now running an Ultra Bee. Thanks to Charged Cycle Works for all the great content! (looking forward to getting back out there on the tire you just sold me!)
Please do! We were a little surprised the field wasn’t bigger. Half of us are just showing up and racing for fun. Hopefully more people show up next year.
I've been a long time EV enthusiast and have been following the TKO since the beginning. This vid was awesome in showing how far the bikes and the event have come. I'm so happy to see where EV's are heading and am so looking forward to the future. I can't wait till EV tech makes sense for bigger bikes and to eventually see price parity. Great job guys.
Glad you enjoyed it! The “modded Varg” bike was actually a full-size bike conversion. That tech is getting better and will be built into more bigger bikes in the future. The only downside is you need a donor bike, but those are also very easy to acquire at a great price now.
Glad I got to go, had my hands full with kids but got a chance try the EM bikes. The Escape XR is the bike to beat for this type of riding and its next bike on my list. Hate I didnt race again this year but it gave me that little extra time to figure out my future plans and its no question the XR is in it haha. Somehow I finished with my 19/16 light bee but those EM, varg, Ultra are just another type of bike completely. Glad I waited on pulling the trip on the Ultra. Great summary/review of the bikes.
@@ChargedCycleWorks if I already have the stock 19…why buy another 19? Is the warp 19 better than the stock 19? Different dimension? Can I just buy the 16? Is there a reason 16 rear is better than 19 rear? How about 17/14 setup? Thanks in advance.
@@Alex-oy6wbit is a higher quality front wheel however, you can just upgrade to a rear 16” we do have that option as well on our website. The 16/19 is by far the best option for trail riding these smaller bikes, great tire options incredible traction, reduced pinch flats. Definitely highly recommend doing that. The 14/17 is good for shorter people and kids or teens, but if you fit onto the bike nicely with the stock 19/19, 16/19 is the way to go
Thanks for this awesome summary of the bikes! Charged Cycle Works is really helping us learn about all the electric options available today. Tucker @electriccyclerider has done a great job growing this event. So great to see the bikes improving so rapidly in just 3 years. I am excited to see how the Arctic Leopard did in the end. Looking forward to more reviews of the EX-800 from you guys.
We appreciate it! It’s awesome to see our sport progressing this fast. The EX800 got 3rd in the Sunday race, really cool seeing the new black color taken out of the box that weekend and raced. We are putting the new Tech suspension on our bike and will be creating lots of content for all the trail riders out there.
I know it's a strictly trials bike, but I would really love to see ya put a Mecatecno Dragonfly through its paces. Total respect for y'alls insight, skills and straight up perspective on all your reviews! Keep on rockin'!✌😎
The bike that competed is not quite as updated as the latest bikes. They have a different battery in now, that produces way more range. Stock surron ultra bees were also doing battery swaps in this event. It’s a large and strenuous effort for 8-9 miles
I really wanted to buy this bike but the bait and switch of the first 50 and the constant marketing bs made me pause. Another silicon valley crowd funding like skeem made me pause with all the new models hitting the market soon. Plan accordingly.
Don’t let that hold you back. Trying to make an American-based bike is a massive undertaking and so much more difficult than you would ever imagine. We’ve been meeting more and more investors behind Varg and it’s surprising how much they were able to keep secret for the years leading up to the launch. Dust just happens to be making their journey public. We are filming with Dust again soon and terribly excited to ride the next iteration.
@@tamaskristonwe found out after filming that it was Varg plastics over an electric dirt bike conversion. We tagged him, hopefully he’ll respond and tell us a bit more about it.
It's hard to compete with 18/21 wheels and a larger more stable bike with more travel for this sort of riding. For the average trail rider the smaller bikes are a great option, though. That's the meat and potatoes of their sales base ;-)
This is a tough one and really comes down to rider preference. No doubt Spencer is a great rider and surprised everyone on the Varg, but most people would really struggle racing a bike that heavy. The weight helps with traction but can also be a detriment if you drop and have to pick it up 10x during the race.
A Stark Varg 60hp model weighs about 243, which is about the same as a Yamaha YZ450. Fully-modded Ultra Bees weigh around 220 lbs, the Dust Moto's target production weight is ~200 lbs. How are they too heavy for MX?
What great interviews. Mr Aaron is the man off road!
The entire field was talented this year. Our next video will highlight how much faster the electric bikes are vs the gas bike’s lap times.
Nice review. at 60 plus years old, the Light bee got me back out into the woods (my first love) and riding again .. now running an Ultra Bee. Thanks to Charged Cycle Works for all the great content! (looking forward to getting back out there on the tire you just sold me!)
Can’t wait I’ll try to make it next year
Please do! We were a little surprised the field wasn’t bigger. Half of us are just showing up and racing for fun. Hopefully more people show up next year.
Thats my boy @ 18:30 ! Go team DB !
I've been a long time EV enthusiast and have been following the TKO since the beginning. This vid was awesome in showing how far the bikes and the event have come. I'm so happy to see where EV's are heading and am so looking forward to the future. I can't wait till EV tech makes sense for bigger bikes and to eventually see price parity. Great job guys.
Glad you enjoyed it! The “modded Varg” bike was actually a full-size bike conversion. That tech is getting better and will be built into more bigger bikes in the future. The only downside is you need a donor bike, but those are also very easy to acquire at a great price now.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Who is Thunder Varg 15:24?
Glad I got to go, had my hands full with kids but got a chance try the EM bikes. The Escape XR is the bike to beat for this type of riding and its next bike on my list. Hate I didnt race again this year but it gave me that little extra time to figure out my future plans and its no question the XR is in it haha. Somehow I finished with my 19/16 light bee but those EM, varg, Ultra are just another type of bike completely. Glad I waited on pulling the trip on the Ultra.
Great summary/review of the bikes.
Nice
What’s best wheel setup for 2024 Surron lbx (off road; trail riding)
chargedcycleworks.com/products/16-19-complete-wheel-tire-combo-warp9
@@ChargedCycleWorks if I already have the stock 19…why buy another 19? Is the warp 19 better than the stock 19? Different dimension? Can I just buy the 16? Is there a reason 16 rear is better than 19 rear? How about 17/14 setup? Thanks in advance.
@@Alex-oy6wbit is a higher quality front wheel however, you can just upgrade to a rear 16” we do have that option as well on our website. The 16/19 is by far the best option for trail riding these smaller bikes, great tire options incredible traction, reduced pinch flats. Definitely highly recommend doing that. The 14/17 is good for shorter people and kids or teens, but if you fit onto the bike nicely with the stock 19/19, 16/19 is the way to go
@@ChargedCycleWorks thank you! I’m 5’5”. Is 17/14 better option or 19/16?
@@Alex-oy6wb we still recommend 16/19”. We have tons of customers your size. They fit the bike perfectly.
Would spectators pay money to watch those bikes race? The sound they make does not evoke excitement.
NOBODY CARES...it's either GAS and a spark...OR NOTHING
EVERYBODY CARES... HIGH VOLTAGE is here to STAY. BABAY ⚡⚡⚡
Tucker really is the man! We will make it back next year for sure.
Thanks for this awesome summary of the bikes! Charged Cycle Works is really helping us learn about all the electric options available today. Tucker @electriccyclerider has done a great job growing this event. So great to see the bikes improving so rapidly in just 3 years. I am excited to see how the Arctic Leopard did in the end. Looking forward to more reviews of the EX-800 from you guys.
We appreciate it! It’s awesome to see our sport progressing this fast.
The EX800 got 3rd in the Sunday race, really cool seeing the new black color taken out of the box that weekend and raced. We are putting the new Tech suspension on our bike and will be creating lots of content for all the trail riders out there.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Thanks! I understand that the Tech suspension may be standard on the 2025 EX800. Very curious to see how you like it.
I know it's a strictly trials bike, but I would really love to see ya put a Mecatecno Dragonfly through its paces. Total respect for y'alls insight, skills and straight up perspective on all your reviews! Keep on rockin'!✌😎
Electric is here to stay!💪
Will have to make it out the TKO sometime. I don't think the old Light Bee will do too well against these next gen electric bikes though.
Dust moto bike couldn't do 8-9 miles?
The bike that competed is not quite as updated as the latest bikes. They have a different battery in now, that produces way more range.
Stock surron ultra bees were also doing battery swaps in this event. It’s a large and strenuous effort for 8-9 miles
Where do I find out about upcoming events like this?
Serious question how do I get into TKO as a amateur
19:33 My favorite and future bike ⚡🤘⚡
I'd like to do this once just to live life
Same
Come do it! Although the pro’s will continue to dominate, most of us just want to ride and race for the fun of it.
@ChargedCycleWorks exactly I don't plan on winning but just the experience is my quest
i wish i can join! but dont have a bike
I really wanted to buy this bike but the bait and switch of the first 50 and the constant marketing bs made me pause. Another silicon valley crowd funding like skeem made me pause with all the new models hitting the market soon. Plan accordingly.
Don’t let that hold you back. Trying to make an American-based bike is a massive undertaking and so much more difficult than you would ever imagine. We’ve been meeting more and more investors behind Varg and it’s surprising how much they were able to keep secret for the years leading up to the launch. Dust just happens to be making their journey public. We are filming with Dust again soon and terribly excited to ride the next iteration.
More info about the MODDED stark varg?
It's not a modded Varg, it's a diy conversion starting from a ktm exc chassis with stark plastics on it (and it has a gearbox with clutch)
@@federico297 is existing a video about it?
@@tamaskristonwe found out after filming that it was Varg plastics over an electric dirt bike conversion. We tagged him, hopefully he’ll respond and tell us a bit more about it.
They were saying light bikes are better for tko but a varg is the winner.
It's hard to compete with 18/21 wheels and a larger more stable bike with more travel for this sort of riding. For the average trail rider the smaller bikes are a great option, though. That's the meat and potatoes of their sales base ;-)
This is a tough one and really comes down to rider preference. No doubt Spencer is a great rider and surprised everyone on the Varg, but most people would really struggle racing a bike that heavy. The weight helps with traction but can also be a detriment if you drop and have to pick it up 10x during the race.
They are too heavy for MX. Just use them in Enduro.
A Stark Varg 60hp model weighs about 243, which is about the same as a Yamaha YZ450. Fully-modded Ultra Bees weigh around 220 lbs, the Dust Moto's target production weight is ~200 lbs. How are they too heavy for MX?
@@jasper_of_puppets Go ahead and make excuses for them.
@@334honda lol
@@jasper_of_puppets It will be a lame race to watch if the bikes are all EV. You can't get but about a foot off the ground from a jump with them.
@@334honda 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🙃😉
DO NOT SUPPORT OR BUY THIS CRAP..!!!!!!
I SUPPORT AND WILL BUY ALL THE ELECTRIC MOTOS!!!!
The OFF ROAD COMMUNITY DOES NOT SUPPORT ELECTRIC GARBAGE !!!!
RedBull TKO supports ELECTRIC MOTO!!! We're not here to take part... we're here TO TAKE OVAAH!!!