That's partly because everyone in Austin makes either $22,000 or $220,000 a year, and landlords think that if they keep jacking rent up, only millionaires will want to live in their crappy beat down leaking apartment building.
It’s low for the jobs that it attracts (and hence the comp cities.) Austin brings in similar job prospects as the Bay Area, Boston, NYC in terms of tech. So Austin is expensive for the south but dirt cheap to Californians.
There is one thing about moving to Texas that most people don't anticipate, and this is the high property taxes. When people see their first tax statement, they nearly have a heart attack. It's a little more manageable in rural areas and counties with smaller populations (think Lufkin, Victoria, Tyler), but in these metro areas, it's out of hand.
Correct. A lot of disabled veterans (RE:VA Rated 💯 P&T) hang their hats in TX though; as they are exempt from personal property tax on their primary residence.
Yep, had a $270K house in Houston and moved 2 years ago to Richmond, VA. My $700K house here has lower property taxes. The govt will get their $ one way or another.
I moved to DFW from New Orleans. Although I miss the culture of Louisiana. DFW was a great move for my family and is close enough to go back home when I want to.
People come to Texas like “omg no income tax” lmao 😂 yeahhhh that higher sales tax and property tax ain’t real cute though. It’s not cheap to live here. It USED to be.
And it’s only going to keep going up and up. Someone’s gotta pay for more police and firefighters and infrastructure and everything needed to accommodate more population
Every state will get the revenue it wants, if 1 type of tax is low or non-existent then another type will be high to make up for it. I have decided that for as bad as New York State taxes and politics are (and they are bad), atleast the weather is nice and the state actually keeps its half of the bargain and provides quality services in exchange for the taxes. (I see it as you can either be high tax - high service, or be low tax - low service. High tax - low service is getting scammed, and low tax - high service is unsustainable)
@@jasonreed7522 Absolutely. I work in mortgage and that property tax always throws people for a loop. I used to live in New Jersey for a few years actually and I will say the taxes there and in NY are a lot higher overall and it can get expensive so I moved back home. For me its kinda like I traded the 4 months of freezing cold for 4 months of insane heat. The positive is no shoveling or clearing snow I suppose. Still a great region up there and I visit regularly. I wish we had a state with good weather that wasn’t California for me to move to lol.
Excellent video Mike. I think you captured the reasons for these population increases exactly. It is true that most states with no income tax have other ways to capture those missing taxes, but there is no doubt that is a prime reason for the growth of Texas and Florida. My home state of NC, with state tax, is still growing at a huge clip and beginning to strangle with growth all over now.
Property taxes are very high in Texas, Houston has extreme humidity, almost suffocating and they can get hurricanes. San Antonio actually isn’t all that bad but traffic is getting bad. Getting something on the outskirts of Dallas, San Antonio, or Austin would be good, if you get the right spot and not having to drive into any of the big cities much, it could be good. No grocery sales tax here either.
Dallas native. I would take that Houston humidity all day, every day, over the humidity of New Orleans. You walk across the carpet and it feels DAMP in New Orleans, and that is WITH central AC in the summertime. It is appropriate that people shorten New Orleans to NO because that is exactly was it is: one big NO due to humidity there.
Honestly the outskirts of Austin doesn’t even save that much money though. Since Williamson County is one of the fastest growing counties in the country, it is getting to be as expensive as Travis County. So that leaves going south of the city, but that is where the traffic is the worst since it’s on the I35 corridor between Austin and San Antonio
i moved to san antonio 2 months ago and its been great (other than the weather), the traffic isnt nearly as bad as austin and while it might not be exciting its only an hour away by car which honestly is very nice.
The theft crisis in the Charlotte area is out of control. Builders no longer build affordable houses, transplants bought up all the affordable properties. The locals are being squeezed out. The cost in the area has skyrocketed and thefts have risen. The flood of people has made the area a very dangerous place.
Is anyone trying to do anything to solve the problems, Chris? We would like to move BACK to CLT but we are hesitating because of info like this. Thanks for responding.
You said it. In central Florida the locals are being priced out by big ballers from up North. I've been here for close to 15 yrs and I kinda see it from both sides. Interesting times...
Exactly 10 years ago I moved from NoVA area to Raleigh Metro and the reason for my move was cheaper housing and good colleges for my daughter. And it did work out very well as my daughter could get into UNC Chapel Hill (5th or 6th best Public University in the country) and I could get a reasonable spacious single family home in country's one of best small towns CARY for under 400K (I mean in 2013)! If one is looking for a job in tech industry, Pharma industry, Banking industry or looking for a job in a University Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill triangle which also is called RTP area is the best. Climate is very good with winters not being too cold and summers not being too hot. I have noticed that I can easily live without turning Heat or AC for close to 6 months!
Charlotte is apparently making some real positive changes that counter the sprawl that might otherwise make people not want to move there. It also helps that the suburbs aren’t that pricey in a society that is increasingly expensive.
@@BryantBaudelaire honestly Raleigh has a lot of nice spots. Crabtree Valley Mall, North Hills, Downtown, Cameron Village are all places that immediately come to mind about places to go. The unfortunate thing is you practically need a car to get there because it’s not walkable at all.
Been in Raleigh a long time. It’s has plenty to do and with nearby cities Chapel Hill, Cary, Durham and small towns even more to do. Plenty of parks, lakes, greenways, good food, breweries, pro and college sports, museums, food halls, shopping, music scene and beaches and mountains nearby for weekend trips or 2nd homes. I find little difference between Charlotte and Raleigh other than bigger skyline but a sterile downtown in Charlotte.
In Phoenix, we do not get all our water from The Colorado River, we have the Salt River Project. When I was a kid here in the 60s and 70s, all our water came from SRP. The Salt River Project is internal and does not need to be shared with other states. 5:25
seriously though, everyone thinks we are gonna run out of water but we have the srp watershed system which ensures water for the next 100 years, its very secure
@@soymilkman with all due respect, if that is the case then what is your solution? The Salt and Verde river system has existed for thousands of years. Additionally, we are in the midst of a demographic collapse, so to speak. Therefore, if it is a question of population, well I would not worry too much about that. There will just not be enough births to offset naturally occurring deaths in the next 100 years, there just isn’t. The reason for that is a majority of women today, over 50%, who have reach the age of 30 are childless. This is a recipe for demographic collapse. So no, I am not worried about over population growth, quite the opposite, it just can no longer occur. So where is the water issue?
well by the 2100s there will most likely be much more advanced tech and water saving techniques far more sustainable that what you can imagine now @@soymilkman
Excellent video...I live in a Dallas-Fort Worth suburb and a few other drivers of our growth are excellent school districts and low crime. Unfortunately, some of this massive growth over the last decade is having a negative impact as well.
You probably already know this by now Mileage Mike that I’m from the space coast of Florida, east of the Orlando Metropolitan Area. I’m can confirm that Orlando Metropolitan Area is growing rapidly. Horizon West, Lake Nona neighborhood of Orlando, Lake County, and Osceola County, are hotbeds for growth. Plus Polk County, which is not apart of Orlando Metro area, is growing too. And has a lot of people commuting from Polk County to Orlando Metro to work. At this rate, unless the cost of living becomes unaffordable. And weather really becomes an negative factor, an Orlando - Tampa Metroplex may not be out of the question.
One thing that MIGHT slow things down: infrastructure. Pinellas County, for instance, really does need need more cross-bay transit options. PSTA does have partnerships in-county with taxi and ride hailing services, but for Tampa and points east, it's 300X to the airport, 100X to Marion, or the Cross Bay Ferry, which is SEASONAL, and that's it. And Manatee County and points south is a joke. Brightline may be able to speed things up cross-state, but for now, if you're on the Gulf side, you pretty much have to drive, and the road situation is dicey.
Yeah I can see that. I could see the growth of Polk County when I was there. They're definitely going to need to get I-4 beefed up sooner rather than later. I'm also curious to see how many users Brightline can attract once they get it built through there.
You're looking at it from the east (Orlando side), similar is happening in west Polk (Tampa side). East Polk is considered Orlando metro, west Polk, Tampa metro.
Rent in Austin is about the worst in Texas, the traffic is probably the worst in Texas. If you move to Dallas, or any other major cities, you have to have a car. It will be very difficult to maneuver the cities without your own ride. Dallas rent is increasing as well and if you’re looking to buy a house, definitely, you’ll want to look far north of Dallas, north of the McKinney and Frisco areas If you search for something 30 minutes or so outside Dallas, you can find something reasonable now
I live in Houston and we at least have 3 light rail lines now that we voted for as a county to build. The good thing is lots of people can now commute using both. For example, a lot of the 100K employers of the medical center take the train from Fannin South or Smithlands stations. There’s not enough parking in the TMC so the hospitals and other employers will pay for your parking where it’s available. We need to expand it to the airports though for sure. Austin is wild because they neither want to have more than 2-3 lanes of traffic on highways nor build any decent transit. That capital metro was a bust lol
Hey, Mileage! I love your videoes but as a Tampa native I have to point out u showed Miami's NFL stadium, not Tampa's. The U of Miami's mascott is the Hurricanes. But, we are very familiar with them here also.
We just left Dallas and moved to Philadelphia. It is a misnomer to posit that the cost of living is low in Texas. Our last electric bill from Carollton Texas north of Dallas was over $700 for the month of July. The Texas grid has everyone Captured in their sinister plot. Our first electric bill in Philadelphia was $28. We moved for 3300 ft.² to 2100 ft.² so, even with the square footage adjustment we’re paying much much less!
@2:30 "Some reasons why people are moving to the Houston area: low cost of living, robust job market, *warm weather...* " Bruh. It's like living on the surface of the sun down here.
South Florida metro is stagnant even though people are moving here because those high income earners are pricing long time residents out. Lower income folks are priced out of Miami, and move to Orlando, Tampa, and Jacksonville
I live in the Tampa area. I love it. Great growth the past few years, the city of Sarasota is exploding also, especially the Lakewood range subdivisions. Downtown Sarasota is also being renovated and new construction added. Great beaches, fishing, and very rich people are moving there all the time.
Yes but Sarasota is very very very hot and very very crowded...made up of mostly retired married couples...so it feels like a nursing home...so I lot of people hate it there...gets boring and monotonous...also sterile and shallow...fake..even the beaches are man made.....everything is man made...very hollow... Anyway have a great day...
Also...Tampa is so hot that everything is inside with the Air Conditioner running...even the Baseball Diamond is indoors...they say the weather is great...nope not when your inside all the time...
@@stevewalther2293 I love it. To each its own. There is a reason why Sarasota's real estate is exploding, and I don't think they have anything to do with what you said. LOL
I live in western North Carolina and this region has been inundated with refugees from Chicago and New York City. Visit either city and you will understand why.
@@anon-ju9bgnashville very far behind Tennessee in general is far behind we just now getting new buildings infrastructure is terrible In nashville our interstate is so trash & dirty
I have been here all my life and remember it before this insane boom. It is not very livable at this point. It has been 115 _ for a whole month shattering all records. I am very seriously planning my exit. I remember cool nights and rain in summer. Not anymore. It is hotter than hell itself with California prices now. Just insane !
@@DefenestrateYourself They also ran out of water and abandoned it. Thus the name Phoenix when humans returned to try again... only to fail again. This place its cursed. Trust me
Cool videos 🤙. Just subscribed to your channel, i like how ya make the videos entertaining without any snarky, negative or obnoxious comments that many similar channels resort too.
I moved my family to VA from FL a few years ago and people look at me like I am crazy when I tell them where I moved from..they are like you did it backwards!
I'm not surprised that it was 39% on your poll that ppl left NYC or the Jersey area but I can't speak for New Jersey. As for N.Y the dwn state yes. It's not worth crap living here, cost of living is ridiculous even before inflation it's been ridiculous. Pay rent that's through the roof for what. High crime, fear of being attacked on the subway, rats, crackheads in the neighborhood, possibly getting hit with a escooter. NYC is a miserable hell whole. I was born and raised here, there is nothing here. It's expensive all over but not like here
The most recent one of these metro areas I’ve been to is Jacksonville. Hot as hell of course but I really liked the place for the most part to visit. So much construction around I-95 and I-295 but the traffic wasn’t nearly as godawful as in Atlanta, not even near the airport either! I liked St. Augustine and Fernandina as well. Nashville I got to see as last year when I was heading to Indiana. Also one of those places I’d check out more next time.
Many people have moved to River Ridge Louisiana from other states and from other parts of Louisiana., where houses are very attractive and are reasonably priced. Only a few are for sale. Most of the main streets and private streets have been made efficient and beautiful.
Arizona is actually using less water today than 60 years age, due to decrease in agriculture (especially cotton). And all the reservoirs were filled to the brink this spring.
you need a few years just like this year with abundant rain to be comfortable with the water situation there. One year of good rain is not enough to secure the water issues.
I'm in the Phoenix area (from N. Carolina) and I'm hoping to move back in the next few years. My area back home still has a lot of native carolinians and few transplants.
Moved to The outskirts of Tampa from the NY/NJ area. It's too expensive to go back. Within the last 6-7 yrs they been cutting down all the wooded areas to build housing communities probably for more northerners. It's getting more expensive here by the minute.
The traffic on I-35 between San Antonio and Austin is already out of control. Trust me, I would know I live between Austin and San Antonio. I lived my entire life here.
Austin is now expensive. Property taxes are very high as well. Worse than anything is the traffic. Austin never planned for mass transit. The place is a mess. I moved out.
@@MileageMike485 hell yea i live not that far from it too, and also we got a Daves Hot Chicken although the actual establishment is lacking because they dont have a proper soda machine, its been out of service the couple of times ive been there. and no adequate seating for the amount of traffic it gets.
3 possibilities for me: Charlotte, JAX, PHX. I'm retiring so I'm actually more towards Utah/Colorado. My wife will have the ultimate say and it'll probably be Florida because that's how it is.
@@0neOver0neThreeSeventhe weather right now is wonderful in northern to central Florida it’s cooler than the Mid-West. Most of the country in the summer is very hot. But in the spring, winter and fall is were the weather is optimal. It’s not humid at all. Very California like. No rain. It’s wonderful my family and I would have moved to Orlando much earlier if we only knew it was so perfect 10 months out of the year. The Mid- West was too cold 8-9 months out of the year and then had such short spring and fall it was at best a few weeks. Then the summer was too short and much to hot and humid. The sharp contrast was unbearable even after the 21 years we lived there. Glad to be rid of fly over country mid-west.
@@MileageMike485 I moved out of PC Beach on a 110° day and have *never* missed the weather. The beaches are great, if you can overlook the millions of non-Floridians that you need to step on and over to get to the water. There are good things about the state, but I don't count those two things very heavily. Georgia has great weather if you don't like the cold. If you're retiring to FL, consider that the people carrying your medications and financial paperwork have one interstate highway and one airport to choose from; and the place is on fire, under water, or being beaten by storms for about a month out of every year. I strongly recommend the panhandle.
Anywhere south of Jacksonville is expensive af. I currently live just across the state line in New Mexico, bordering paso tx. I pay 2300 a month for a modern 2015 built 2100 sq ft home with 4 bed rooms, 4 baths, located in the suburbs with a golf course in the neighborhood. Basically upper middle class community. Ive been contemplating moving to Tampa area. This same house equivalent in a similair upper middle class community in Tampa would be about 5500/ month (minimum). Houses in the hood in Tampa/Miami cost the same as what I'm paying to live in the suburbs here. No thanks. Ill stick to visiting Florida only, unless my income jumps to 200k/year.
avg housing cost in AZ now 360k vs 242k in 2019. insane growth in prices and salary has not followed. Too many cash buyers flocking from CA or investors to take these houses. Perfect storm for unaffordability happening now. Low inventory, high prices because of low inventory, and high interest rates. Virtually impossible to buy a house here in the state where the avg household income is 80K
I didn't expect Texas to get four of 10. San Antonio and Houston have an advantage of being an easy drive to the ocean and beaches. Texas cities are not an easy drive to the mountains of New Mexico or Colorado.
? I am genuinely surprised that Salt Lake City was not on this list. I know Salt Lake City itself doesn't even come close to 1 million people, but the Wasatch Front has to be at least 1.5 million people. 10 or 20 years ago, I would have thought there were three, possibly four separate areas in close proximity, but they have basically become one large area. Those four previously distinct areas are Salt Lake City and it's suburbs, Provo, Ogden, and Park City, and every city/town in between each of these areas. Bottom line, they have basically become one large area. Although, I have a feeling that the Salt Lake City metropolitan area is still considered separate from Ogden and Provo and Park City. I don't know for certain, but my gut would say that Salt Lake City metropolitan area is growing crazy fast, but probably is not quite one million people. The Park City area is growing fast, Provo is probably growing but not exceptionally fast, and Ogden is surprisingly either stagnating or possibly losing population. That is just my gut feeling. I am not basing this on any data. It would be interesting to have you do a video about Salt Lake City and possibly Utah, and it's many contradictions. Obviously, Utah is a Republican state, but Salt Lake City itself is extremely liberal. Surprisingly so in my opinion. When I moved back to Salt Lake City from Seattle after being gone for 11 years, I could not believe the mayor at the time, Rocky Anderson. He was/is unabashedly liberal. Although someone whom I respect pointed out that whenever you have an extreme whatever it is, you often have an opposite. Also, just to clarify and not have a bunch of people correct me, Salt Lake County almost always has a democratic mayor, but I think it is more in play then Salt Lake City itself or the governorship for instance. To be 100% clear, none of what I write is a criticism or phrase. It is simply an observation.
There are lots of articles that will tell you that Phoenix has a water problem. The strongest data against that fact is that Arizona uses less water to take care of its 7 million population in 2023 than it did to take care of its 700,000 population in 1950s. And the canary in the coal mine of Phoenix's water issues is a neighborhood just outside of Scottsdale called Rio Verde - a community that still has people building houses while they aren't being assured any water by any municipality. They have to purchase water or build their own wells. And yet people are moving there and building million dollar homes. That doesn't sound like a slowdown to me... that sounds like a resilient, strong area. The fact is that while the Sonoran Desert experiences the longest drought in its history, it has added millions and millions of people and is now receiving even more job security from federal investment as massive microchip fabricators are beginning to build factories in the valley. Please do more than just surface-level research on your videos.
I plan on moving from the DFW as soon as I can. The heat here is unbearable and driving to everywhere fucking sucks. I HATE driving, yet that’s the only way I can get anywhere I want to go.
Moving to Florida is a bad idea. There's THOUSANDS of homes being built everywhere and they are doing nothing to help with traffic and expansion of the roads. They're only JUST now fixing the highway by adding one more lane that was needed 10 YEARS AGO. I imagine florida will look like LA one day, at least traffic wise around Tampa region.
It's cheaper to live in Texas IF (if!) you are coming from a place like Cali/NYC. Anywhere else, Texas is more expensive. It's as bad as when I moved to Tampa back in '98. Coming from NYC, I was amazed how cheap cost of living was. Folks from Georgia, West Virgina, etc, never stopped complaining of much more expensive Tampa/FL was.
New construction is consistently dropping. Every month, I get new "price reduced" notification from zillow, 3 months in a row so far. Don't know if it is helping older homes' property value, but it has to be better than that new construction rising in price. You have A LOT of new construction homes available there right now.
So many people don't understand the cost of living and taxes. State government still need tax dollars to function. Where do you think that comes from? If they aren't getting anything from income tax, they are going to get it in another way...or they are going to let their state crumble. I live in Minnesota. We have some of the highest taxes in the country. My sister and her husband are low income earners. They decided to move to Texas because of the "cost of living." Yeah rent was cheaper...but other stuff was more expensive. As people in this thread have said, look at property taxes. They also made less money doing the same jobs. They ended up moving back to Minnesota because their situation wasn't any better down there, so may as well be where family is at. We could look at my wife's income. She is a registered nurse. She is part of the nursing union. She makes $100k a year. According to our taxes, 30% of her income went to taxes, so she made $70k. Guess how much she would make as a nurse in Texas? $70k. Move to Texas (or any other place) because you like it, not for economic reasons...UNLESS you are rich. If you are making millions of dollars, move to a state with no income tax. If you are the average American, don't fall for that scam.
Give it 10-20 years when the temperature is a LOT hotter than it is now. The last place people are going to want be in Texas and Florida. I Detroit, Chicago and anywhere else along the Great Lakes is going to make a huge comeback because of much lower temperatures and endless supplies of water.
The problem with Texas is that if you are a homeowner you will foot the bill, since Property Tax is the major contributor to funding the state since there is no state income tax. Corporations don’t have to pay state income tax on top of getting large tax credits.
@@1pinestreetif you renting in an apartment complex the tax is atleast divided across all residents. In theory the primary benefit of renting in a complex is aggregating common costs across all residents to lower the percieved cost of things like replacing a boiler. (Also not having to do certain things yourself) Obviously if the property tax is lower on your complex your indirect payment for it will also be lower.
@@1pinestreetBingo! We have higher tax rates than New York State actually. You’ll be hard pressed to find low rise complexes in the city here these days. A lot of old duplexes too are now gone. Land here has gotten ridiculous. There’s 3 plots of land near me going for 170K lowest and 285K highest. It’s gotten insanely expensive here.
This isn’t completely true though. All corporations get credits for one, but they pay billions here. A good video on it is “why Louisiana stays poor” that delves into how the SAME oil companies Valero, Exxon, etc that are in both states pay differently in both. Louisiana let’s them pay next to nothing. And it shows tremendously. Ever been on I10 over the Sabine River? It gets third worldy real quick lol. The lake Charles bridge is literally a ticking time bomb and the LADOT can’t be bothered.
I’ve been in Austin for over a decade. Considering moving to Houston now because I can sell my little condo in town and buy a 4000 sf house with pool 3 car garage and on a golf course for the same price
I live in Austin and it continues to grow but in terms of volume Houston and DFW are growing faster. Housing prices in Texas has stabilized and it is still relatively cheap comparted to many other places such as the east and west coasts. Projections have the state surpassing the 40 million mark in 25 year or less. There are around 25 metro areas around the lone star state and all of them are growing. Property taxes are high in some areas but there is no state income tax. Texas is pro business and at the end of the day business gets to make their own decisions, not the state yet the state has some of the strongest consumer protection laws in the nation. So yes, Disney would do very well in Texas as they would always have the final say so by default.
I just looked at the Wikipedia page you were using. Austin isn't number one by your criteria. It should have been number 2. Behind Louisville, Kentucky. It had a pop. of 1,285,439 in 2020. And a pop. of 1,395,634 in the 2022 estimate. A growth of +8.57%. lol.
excellent and very informative video ! I find the Tampa/Clearwater/Dunedin area a great location --beaches/water/multi ages/culture/food/convenience/accessibility to a lot and an outstanding large beautiful airport
While those states don’t put a “income tax” they tax everything else high. So it balances out. It’s not a “perk” it’s a short side people think is a perk but when they live there, then they see it isn’t cheap. The people in the south west won’t last long, they need water so they will move back near the Great Lakes.
As the real estate prices and rents skyrocket in Texas, so do the property taxes. Texas has extremely high property taxes, and when the cost of housing goes up, the property tax bill looks even more enormous.
Tx Property taxes statewide were reduced by $100K of assessed value approved by the voters in 2023. Plus TX has two exemptions available, if you are 65 years or older, these property values are not reassessed. Disabled military pay zero property taxes. Partial military disability is a sliding scale (i am told by a neighbor). Check on that. Utility rates to rise due to infrastructure improvement needs. We still have power at: $.13 kWh in my town. Some towns are de-regulated electric. I Moved from Fresno, CA a year ago. 70 years old. Will Never go back to Commiefornia! Texas also has a high speed rail under construction, Dallas to Houston.
I really hate calling two cities that connect by sprawling single family homes a "metroplex". It's nothing but terrible, car dependant, suburban sprawl that puts a drain on the city's resources.
Louisiana lacks opportunities and major corporations. They want everybody to be short order cooks. Cost of living high. High housing and car insurance.Low pay
I'd be interested to know the median age of the immigrants to these areas. Are they chasing seven-figure salaries in unstable STEM fields like cryptocurrency and EVs, or are they boomers and gen-Xers retiring in areas where it's impossible to afford a home on full-time pay? Or are they actual working-class people who have a means of supporting themselves and working toward their own goals?
@@le_th_ What's more important? Working 40-50-60 years and getting a bunch of money, or meeting your financial needs and having a life outside of your pay stub? I hope millennials are retiring right now.
Dallas is a depressing concrete dystopia. Move there if quality of life isn't very important to you. Spent 25 years there. Also its hotter than absolute shit.
Amazing. Let's remember that rapid growth is typical for late stage cancer. A place like Phoenix will be like an Anasazi ruin or like Detroit in a decade or two. Yes, hard to imagine but the forces that will kill these cities are far outside of their control and moving fast.
No keep dreaming Phoenix is doing just fine my Uncle has been there forever they just need to get rid of Hobbs that's all, because no one actually voted for her. They have a political problem not a water one solve that and the water issue gets dealt with just like all desserts, a tree hugger like hobbs just doesn't want to do it.
@@DiligoBarba LOL. That's great. I was looking to move to Phoenix 40 years ago and I looked at a map and saw all the golf courses and realized that these people have no idea where they are and the long term history of the area. But like I said, go ahead and live the delusion, what is coming is not going to change and could care less about your election cycles.
I just moved from Orlando to Colorado Springs. Orlando hot summers were just too much and after 10 years, I had enough. Besides, you basically have to fly to any other part of the country. While Florida has no state income tax, with insurance companies leaving, it is getting very expensive to have home or auto insurance in the state. My first insurance company left the state, which resulted in my rate doubling from the previous year. Alas, I choose Farmers - which announced their departure. Too bad, because if you can tolerate the excessive summer heat, the state is really nice otherwise. Winters are glorious - all 6 weeks! The ultimate play is to be a snowbird - if you can afford it. Hot summers, not hurricanes, is the main drawback to anywhere in Florida. Hurricanes may play an indirect factor if _all_ the insurance companies leave the state. Mortgage companies require insurance for loans - so that limits things to only cash buyers willing to take all the risk. Unless you're looking at a direct hit by a Cat 3 or worse, they aren't a big deal if you prepare correctly - in that case, other humans panic-buying are the biggest issue. This is one area that Orlando has a huge advantage over any coastal city.
Realistically Hurricanes are the sort of thing you can build for, its just a matter of enforcing it in the building code. Personally the 2 biggest reasons i would never consider Florida are the Hot Summers (this Yank thinks 85°F and 60%rh is hot, and 40°F and sunny is shorts weather, i would simply die in the Florida summer). And the entire peninsula is flat and low lying, and considering how the world's governments are still only giving just more than lip service to climate change, i don't think its a wise investment to be buying future ocean floor property. (I know its like a 100 years out before the peninsula is underwater, but thats also just 1 human lifespan away)
I'm from and still live in Orlando. The heat is one of the main factors why I want to move. It's literally too hot June-September to do anything outside besides go to the beach...and you can only do that so many times. You can't be outside to enjoy the city. Traffic and cost of living suck now too.
My wife and I moved from Colorado (Fort Collins) last year to the northeast coast of Florida. She is a native Coloradoan and I lived most of my life in Colorado. We grew up in Colorado Springs and are very familiar with all the benefits of Colorado as well as the negatives. We absolutely LOVE Florida. If people want to discuss unaffordable housing Colorado is one most expensive states in the US and significantly more expensive than Florida. Our home we purchased in Florida would have been 60%-65% more in Colorado, especially since we’re on 1/4 acre. Moving to Florida also saves me 4.5% of my income since Florida doesn’t have state income tax. Colorado state legislators have raised taxes on business, specifically small business. I’m an independent contractor and was hit with a high 4 figure tax increase on my business in 2021. This is an annual business tax that is sure to increase every year and separate from personal taxes. Yes, homeowner insurance is higher but ours for 2022/2023 wasn’t horrible and it is with a major insurance company. Car insurance in Florida is a little higher than Colorado. Summers are hot in Florida for sure but living 2.5 miles from the Atlantic Ocean makes the summers a little more tolerable. If I am being honest I wouldn’t like living in central Florida. I’d rather have 4 months of hot and 8 months of outstanding weather any day that ends in a “Y”. Hail is a serious concern in Colorado and it hails often. If you don’t have a garage to park your car be prepared for hail damage. It is going to happen even with a garage as a car will undoubtedly be out in the weather. Snow and ice …. Yeah, not in Florida but in Colorado. While the front range isn’t as bad as the high country, it is still bad enough. Streets in residential developments rarely, if ever, get plowed and the snow will become compacted by local traffic. The high altitude sun is terrific for melting off snow, until it is gone and evening comes and turns he melted snow into ice. Ice is a problem for anyone. While northeast Florida can get below freezing (5 nights last year and the lowest temperature was 25 degrees Fahrenheit) it can be very cold in the Colorado front range. There is usually a week, maybe two, when daytime highs will be below 0 degrees Fahrenheit. Generally you can expect winter time daily high temperatures to be between 10 degrees Fahrenheit to the low 60 degree Fahrenheit range. Yes, I’ve seen mid 60s in January so those moving to Colorado buckle up for a winter weather temperature roller coaster. At the end of the day be happy where you’re moving to. Hopefully the place is perfect for what you want. My wife and I found our piece of paradise in Florida. We absolutely love it and have embraced it. We have no intention of turning Florida into Colorado in any sense. We came to Florida for what it offered and know there are some things we don’t prefer (those oppressive hot humid summer days and bugs) but have learned to coexist with it knowing this is a smaller part of the year. Overall Florida fits us very well.
OMG! Are these people serious? If I want to be roasting, I’ll move back to Taipei! 11: Nashville TN 10: Houston TX 9: Orlando FL 8. Phoenix AZ 7. Charlotte NC 6. Tampa FL 5. San Antonio TX 4. Dallas TX 3. Jacksonville FL 2. Raleigh NC 1. Austin TX
There are a few problems with these booming areas. For many of them is WATER. Many people flocking to those areas are coming from places were water is taken for granted. As more people move in, the infrastructure will need to change. In addition, the demand will increase the cost. What was a "paradise" even 10 years ago, is really no longer. It can't be. The best way to to get to a "paradise" is to move to where not many people are going to. The Phoenix area was not meant to sustain the population that it now has. Texas has all its MANMADE lakes, but water is an issue there, but not like Phoenix. Florida now has high cost insurance. Moral of the story, you can run, but you can't hide.
The cost of living in Austin is NOT low. Rent is skyrocketing.
That's partly because everyone in Austin makes either $22,000 or $220,000 a year, and landlords think that if they keep jacking rent up, only millionaires will want to live in their crappy beat down leaking apartment building.
its low compared to northeast and california cities, but that could change.
Same with Houston, Orlando, and most of the others.
It’s low for the jobs that it attracts (and hence the comp cities.) Austin brings in similar job prospects as the Bay Area, Boston, NYC in terms of tech. So Austin is expensive for the south but dirt cheap to Californians.
Austin is Little Manhattan
There is one thing about moving to Texas that most people don't anticipate, and this is the high property taxes. When people see their first tax statement, they nearly have a heart attack. It's a little more manageable in rural areas and counties with smaller populations (think Lufkin, Victoria, Tyler), but in these metro areas, it's out of hand.
Correct. A lot of disabled veterans (RE:VA Rated 💯 P&T) hang their hats in TX though; as they are exempt from personal property tax on their primary residence.
ESP in the DEMONRAT run cities
I guess if they don't have income tax, they need to get the $$ somewhere.
Yep, had a $270K house in Houston and moved 2 years ago to Richmond, VA. My $700K house here has lower property taxes. The govt will get their $ one way or another.
@@georgewashington7374 you are only exempt if you are 100% rating disabled.
I moved to DFW from New Orleans. Although I miss the culture of Louisiana. DFW was a great move for my family and is close enough to go back home when I want to.
People come to Texas like “omg no income tax” lmao 😂 yeahhhh that higher sales tax and property tax ain’t real cute though. It’s not cheap to live here. It USED to be.
And it’s only going to keep going up and up. Someone’s gotta pay for more police and firefighters and infrastructure and everything needed to accommodate more population
Every state will get the revenue it wants, if 1 type of tax is low or non-existent then another type will be high to make up for it.
I have decided that for as bad as New York State taxes and politics are (and they are bad), atleast the weather is nice and the state actually keeps its half of the bargain and provides quality services in exchange for the taxes. (I see it as you can either be high tax - high service, or be low tax - low service. High tax - low service is getting scammed, and low tax - high service is unsustainable)
@@jasonreed7522 people are really uninformed and misinformed about how taxes work, and that is by design.
@@jasonreed7522 Absolutely. I work in mortgage and that property tax always throws people for a loop. I used to live in New Jersey for a few years actually and I will say the taxes there and in NY are a lot higher overall and it can get expensive so I moved back home.
For me its kinda like I traded the 4 months of freezing cold for 4 months of insane heat. The positive is no shoveling or clearing snow I suppose. Still a great region up there and I visit regularly. I wish we had a state with good weather that wasn’t California for me to move to lol.
Same in Florida
Excellent video Mike. I think you captured the reasons for these population increases exactly. It is true that most states with no income tax have other ways to capture those missing taxes, but there is no doubt that is a prime reason for the growth of Texas and Florida. My home state of NC, with state tax, is still growing at a huge clip and beginning to strangle with growth all over now.
11. Nashville, TN
10. Houston, TX
9. Orlando, FL
8. Phoenix, AZ
7. Charlotte, NC
6. Tampa bay area, FL
5. San Antonio, TX
4. Dallas / Ft Worth area, TX
3. Jacksonville area, FL
2. Raleigh area, NC
1. Austin area, TX
Nashville is not growing more than Atlanta bro I’m from nashville that’s a lie ,
Property taxes are very high in Texas, Houston has extreme humidity, almost suffocating and they can get hurricanes. San Antonio actually isn’t all that bad but traffic is getting bad.
Getting something on the outskirts of Dallas, San Antonio, or Austin would be good, if you get the right spot and not having to drive into any of the big cities much, it could be good.
No grocery sales tax here either.
Dallas native. I would take that Houston humidity all day, every day, over the humidity of New Orleans. You walk across the carpet and it feels DAMP in New Orleans, and that is WITH central AC in the summertime. It is appropriate that people shorten New Orleans to NO because that is exactly was it is: one big NO due to humidity there.
Honestly the outskirts of Austin doesn’t even save that much money though. Since Williamson County is one of the fastest growing counties in the country, it is getting to be as expensive as Travis County. So that leaves going south of the city, but that is where the traffic is the worst since it’s on the I35 corridor between Austin and San Antonio
i moved to san antonio 2 months ago and its been great (other than the weather), the traffic isnt nearly as bad as austin and while it might not be exciting its only an hour away by car which honestly is very nice.
same. it's fantastic out here, especially if you only rent
The theft crisis in the Charlotte area is out of control. Builders no longer build affordable houses, transplants bought up all the affordable properties. The locals are being squeezed out. The cost in the area has skyrocketed and thefts have risen. The flood of people has made the area a very dangerous place.
Similar is happening in Dallas
Is anyone trying to do anything to solve the problems, Chris? We would like to move BACK to CLT but we are hesitating because of info like this. Thanks for responding.
Sad, that can be corrected though.
You said it. In central Florida the locals are being priced out by big ballers from up North. I've been here for close to 15 yrs and I kinda see it from both sides. Interesting times...
Same crap has been happening in So Cal for decades get used to it
Exactly 10 years ago I moved from NoVA area to Raleigh Metro and the reason for my move was cheaper housing and good colleges for my daughter. And it did work out very well as my daughter could get into UNC Chapel Hill (5th or 6th best Public University in the country) and I could get a reasonable spacious single family home in country's one of best small towns CARY for under 400K (I mean in 2013)! If one is looking for a job in tech industry, Pharma industry, Banking industry or looking for a job in a University Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill triangle which also is called RTP area is the best. Climate is very good with winters not being too cold and summers not being too hot. I have noticed that I can easily live without turning Heat or AC for close to 6 months!
Charlotte is apparently making some real positive changes that counter the sprawl that might otherwise make people not want to move there. It also helps that the suburbs aren’t that pricey in a society that is increasingly expensive.
The rent in Charlotte has increased and, there’s really no corp jobs down there
I wish Raleigh would make these changes. It’s small and boring in Raleigh.
@@BryantBaudelaire honestly Raleigh has a lot of nice spots. Crabtree Valley Mall, North Hills, Downtown, Cameron Village are all places that immediately come to mind about places to go. The unfortunate thing is you practically need a car to get there because it’s not walkable at all.
Been in Raleigh a long time. It’s has plenty to do and with nearby cities Chapel Hill, Cary, Durham and small towns even more to do. Plenty of parks, lakes, greenways, good food, breweries, pro and college sports, museums, food halls, shopping, music scene and beaches and mountains nearby for weekend trips or 2nd homes. I find little difference between Charlotte and Raleigh other than bigger skyline but a sterile downtown in Charlotte.
@@BryantBaudelaireindeed 😂
In Phoenix, we do not get all our water from The Colorado River, we have the Salt River Project. When I was a kid here in the 60s and 70s, all our water came from SRP. The Salt River Project is internal and does not need to be shared with other states. 5:25
seriously though, everyone thinks we are gonna run out of water but we have the srp watershed system which ensures water for the next 100 years, its very secure
@annedebratto2361 100 years is not a long time..... that's a single lifetime. You're fine with losing water within a lifetime?
@@soymilkman with all due respect, if that is the case then what is your solution? The Salt and Verde river system has existed for thousands of years. Additionally, we are in the midst of a demographic collapse, so to speak. Therefore, if it is a question of population, well I would not worry too much about that. There will just not be enough births to offset naturally occurring deaths in the next 100 years, there just isn’t. The reason for that is a majority of women today, over 50%, who have reach the age of 30 are childless. This is a recipe for demographic collapse. So no, I am not worried about over population growth, quite the opposite, it just can no longer occur. So where is the water issue?
well by the 2100s there will most likely be much more advanced tech and water saving techniques far more sustainable that what you can imagine now @@soymilkman
Excellent video...I live in a Dallas-Fort Worth suburb and a few other drivers of our growth are excellent school districts and low crime. Unfortunately, some of this massive growth over the last decade is having a negative impact as well.
You probably already know this by now Mileage Mike that I’m from the space coast of Florida, east of the Orlando Metropolitan Area. I’m can confirm that Orlando Metropolitan Area is growing rapidly. Horizon West, Lake Nona neighborhood of Orlando, Lake County, and Osceola County, are hotbeds for growth. Plus Polk County, which is not apart of Orlando Metro area, is growing too. And has a lot of people commuting from Polk County to Orlando Metro to work. At this rate, unless the cost of living becomes unaffordable. And weather really becomes an negative factor, an Orlando - Tampa Metroplex may not be out of the question.
Already happening: Lakelands growing a huge amount and really you dont find empty land anymore traveling down Tampa
One thing that MIGHT slow things down: infrastructure.
Pinellas County, for instance, really does need need more cross-bay transit options. PSTA does have partnerships in-county with taxi and ride hailing services, but for Tampa and points east, it's 300X to the airport, 100X to Marion, or the Cross Bay Ferry, which is SEASONAL, and that's it. And Manatee County and points south is a joke.
Brightline may be able to speed things up cross-state, but for now, if you're on the Gulf side, you pretty much have to drive, and the road situation is dicey.
@@josuermorales they need to improve how people get around, better infrastructure would help, more highways, public trans, trains
Yeah I can see that. I could see the growth of Polk County when I was there. They're definitely going to need to get I-4 beefed up sooner rather than later. I'm also curious to see how many users Brightline can attract once they get it built through there.
You're looking at it from the east (Orlando side), similar is happening in west Polk (Tampa side). East Polk is considered Orlando metro, west Polk, Tampa metro.
Rent in Austin is about the worst in Texas, the traffic is probably the worst in Texas. If you move to Dallas, or any other major cities, you have to have a car. It will be very difficult to maneuver the cities without your own ride.
Dallas rent is increasing as well and if you’re looking to buy a house, definitely, you’ll want to look far north of Dallas, north of the McKinney and Frisco areas
If you search for something 30 minutes or so outside Dallas, you can find something reasonable now
I live in Houston and we at least have 3 light rail lines now that we voted for as a county to build. The good thing is lots of people can now commute using both. For example, a lot of the 100K employers of the medical center take the train from Fannin South or Smithlands stations. There’s not enough parking in the TMC so the hospitals and other employers will pay for your parking where it’s available. We need to expand it to the airports though for sure. Austin is wild because they neither want to have more than 2-3 lanes of traffic on highways nor build any decent transit. That capital metro was a bust lol
Hey, Mileage! I love your videoes but as a Tampa native I have to point out u showed Miami's NFL stadium, not Tampa's. The U of Miami's mascott is the Hurricanes. But, we are very familiar with them here also.
Lots of Bay Area and LA transplants are in Sacramento, California. Housing prices have risen here because of the pandemic and people moving here.
I’m moving to Florida very soon. Thankyou for this video it is right on time
We just left Dallas and moved to Philadelphia. It is a misnomer to posit that the cost of living is low in Texas. Our last electric bill from Carollton Texas north of Dallas was over $700 for the month of July. The Texas grid has everyone Captured in their sinister plot. Our first electric bill in Philadelphia was $28. We moved for 3300 ft.² to 2100 ft.² so, even with the square footage adjustment we’re paying much much less!
Great videos buddy! Keep up the great work!
Thanks! Will do!
@2:30 "Some reasons why people are moving to the Houston area: low cost of living, robust job market, *warm weather...* "
Bruh. It's like living on the surface of the sun down here.
The traffic between San Antonio, Austin, and Dallas is horrendous!
South Florida metro is stagnant even though people are moving here because those high income earners are pricing long time residents out. Lower income folks are priced out of Miami, and move to Orlando, Tampa, and Jacksonville
Lol
What jobs in south Florida 😅
Remote workers left
That's why it's stagnant
Miami Dade is stagnant but palm beach is still booming
@@seanthe100 Miami dade isn't stagnant
It's losing people faster than anywhere in America
80k in 3 years and likely 40k in 2023
@@SA-hz1rs it lost 28k in two years not 80k
I live in the Tampa area. I love it. Great growth the past few years, the city of Sarasota is exploding also, especially the Lakewood range subdivisions. Downtown Sarasota is also being renovated and new construction added. Great beaches, fishing, and very rich people are moving there all the time.
Yes but Sarasota is very very very hot and very very crowded...made up of mostly retired married couples...so it feels like a nursing home...so I lot of people hate it there...gets boring and monotonous...also sterile and shallow...fake..even the beaches are man made.....everything is man made...very hollow...
Anyway have a great day...
Also...Tampa is so hot that everything is inside with the Air Conditioner running...even the Baseball Diamond is indoors...they say the weather is great...nope not when your inside all the time...
@@stevewalther2293 I love it. To each its own. There is a reason why Sarasota's real estate is exploding, and I don't think they have anything to do with what you said. LOL
@@stevejohnson2108 You must be retired...
@@stevewalther2293 I am. Retired at 58.
I live in western North Carolina and this region has been inundated with refugees from Chicago and New York City. Visit either city and you will understand why.
Nashville has just exploded, it does look like they are building a light rail from the downtown area to the airport, but who knows.
Shows just how far behind they actually are
Dude nashville so far behind 😂 I’m from here nashville all hype don’t know why people would even move here unless it for a job or something
@@anon-ju9bgnashville very far behind Tennessee in general is far behind we just now getting new buildings infrastructure is terrible In nashville our interstate is so trash & dirty
As someone who lives in the Dallas Ft worth area since 1990 I can say it is growing fast but I do love it here
Interesting Nashville.. they have 450k ppl in the areas 25 miles away (mostly Clarksville msa).
Tennessee in general is getting very popular even in rural areas, it is nuts.
That’s a lie my guy
In Houston….Sugarland is full…the woodlands is full…they are moving to pearland and manvel, Iowa colony, Katy, cypress lol
It makes me sick that Phoenix is growing so quickly. People aren't meant to live in such a hot, arid place. And they have golf courses.
I have been here all my life and remember it before this insane boom. It is not very livable at this point. It has been 115 _ for a whole month shattering all records. I am very seriously planning my exit. I remember cool nights and rain in summer. Not anymore. It is hotter than hell itself with California prices now. Just insane !
@@utistudent099That is why my wife and I left. She also has family here in Dallas. To be honest you can’t get a decent burrito. I miss Poliberto’s!
Native Americans have been living in and internationally created the city now known as Phoenix, for literally hundreds of years. But bless your heart
I was in Phoenix Aug 2022 for the first time is 15-17 years, and I was STUNNED how much it had grown. It was 119 that day.
@@DefenestrateYourself They also ran out of water and abandoned it. Thus the name Phoenix when humans returned to try again... only to fail again. This place its cursed. Trust me
Cool videos 🤙. Just subscribed to your channel, i like how ya make the videos entertaining without any snarky, negative or obnoxious comments that many similar channels resort too.
Oh shit. Bojangles. Gotta move for that.
As someone who lives in the DFW area I can confirm that we are rising
I moved my family to VA from FL a few years ago and people look at me like I am crazy when I tell them where I moved from..they are like you did it backwards!
No you didn’t! You made a smart move.
I’m originally from VA living in FL for work. I would love to move back to VA.
VA sucks 😂😂😂
@@midlife_minimalistHope you do.
I'm not surprised that it was 39% on your poll that ppl left NYC or the Jersey area but I can't speak for New Jersey. As for N.Y the dwn state yes. It's not worth crap living here, cost of living is ridiculous even before inflation it's been ridiculous. Pay rent that's through the roof for what. High crime, fear of being attacked on the subway, rats, crackheads in the neighborhood, possibly getting hit with a escooter. NYC is a miserable hell whole. I was born and raised here, there is nothing here. It's expensive all over but not like here
Im from NC and once I saw chicken price coop and bojangle, youre legit affff 👏❤
It’s Prices’s Chicken Coop, meaning You AIN’T legit
The most recent one of these metro areas I’ve been to is Jacksonville. Hot as hell of course but I really liked the place for the most part to visit. So much construction around I-95 and I-295 but the traffic wasn’t nearly as godawful as in Atlanta, not even near the airport either! I liked St. Augustine and Fernandina as well.
Nashville I got to see as last year when I was heading to Indiana. Also one of those places I’d check out more next time.
Many people have moved to River Ridge Louisiana from other states and from other parts of Louisiana., where houses are very attractive and are reasonably priced. Only a few are for sale. Most of the main streets and private streets have been made efficient and beautiful.
Arizona is actually using less water today than 60 years age, due to decrease in agriculture (especially cotton). And all the reservoirs were filled to the brink this spring.
Middle East countries are using most of the water in AZ to grow alfalfa ⁰0
you need a few years just like this year with abundant rain to be comfortable with the water situation there. One year of good rain is not enough to secure the water issues.
I've been to naperville. It's super nice and i'm surprised it's having a population decline.
DFW will be at 10million before we know it
Houston too
Los Angeles too
@@MahootLos Angeles already have 10 million in the Metro
@@Mahoot la has 18 million
DC metro will be at 10 mil once it officially incorporates Baltimore
I'm in the Phoenix area (from N. Carolina) and I'm hoping to move back in the next few years. My area back home still has a lot of native carolinians and few transplants.
Same here!!! Just moved back to Chandler AZ-Miss Davidson NC so much and Charlotte!❤
Moved to The outskirts of Tampa from the NY/NJ area. It's too expensive to go back. Within the last 6-7 yrs they been cutting down all the wooded areas to build housing communities probably for more northerners. It's getting more expensive here by the minute.
And richer...
The traffic on I-35 between San Antonio and Austin is already out of control. Trust me, I would know I live between Austin and San Antonio. I lived my entire life here.
Thanks for the great info. Very helpful!
Austin is now expensive. Property taxes are very high as well. Worse than anything is the traffic. Austin never planned for mass transit. The place is a mess. I moved out.
Moved to Raleigh in 2020 And the cost of living is going up rapidly. It’s beautiful and safe but lacks energy. Will be leaving soon
Mileage Mike- where did you move? Charlotte sure has changed since the early 60's!
Bojangles has locations in DFW now
San Antonio is getting 1 soon.
Nice. I saw them building them when I was last there.
@@MileageMike485 hell yea i live not that far from it too, and also we got a Daves Hot Chicken although the actual establishment is lacking because they dont have a proper soda machine, its been out of service the couple of times ive been there. and no adequate seating for the amount of traffic it gets.
wtf is it? aint' no one dun explained okurrr.... is it a massage parlor and happy ending or wut?
The cost of living in Dallas has skyrocketed and it has become so overpopulated.
3 possibilities for me: Charlotte, JAX, PHX. I'm retiring so I'm actually more towards Utah/Colorado. My wife will have the ultimate say and it'll probably be Florida because that's how it is.
All solid choice for retirement. Personally I’d opt for Florida. Can’t beat the weather and beaches.
@@MileageMike485 can’t beat the weather in Florida! You must love heat and bugs.
@@0neOver0neThreeSeventhe weather right now is wonderful in northern to central Florida it’s cooler than the Mid-West. Most of the country in the summer is very hot. But in the spring, winter and fall is were the weather is optimal. It’s not humid at all. Very California like. No rain. It’s wonderful my family and I would have moved to Orlando much earlier if we only knew it was so perfect 10 months out of the year. The Mid- West was too cold 8-9 months out of the year and then had such short spring and fall it was at best a few weeks. Then the summer was too short and much to hot and humid. The sharp contrast was unbearable even after the 21 years we lived there. Glad to be rid of fly over country mid-west.
Charlotte has the worst downtown of any city I've ever been in - zero shopping other than restaurants and no nightlife outside of a few bars.
@@MileageMike485 I moved out of PC Beach on a 110° day and have *never* missed the weather. The beaches are great, if you can overlook the millions of non-Floridians that you need to step on and over to get to the water.
There are good things about the state, but I don't count those two things very heavily.
Georgia has great weather if you don't like the cold.
If you're retiring to FL, consider that the people carrying your medications and financial paperwork have one interstate highway and one airport to choose from; and the place is on fire, under water, or being beaten by storms for about a month out of every year. I strongly recommend the panhandle.
Anywhere south of Jacksonville is expensive af. I currently live just across the state line in New Mexico, bordering paso tx. I pay 2300 a month for a modern 2015 built 2100 sq ft home with 4 bed rooms, 4 baths, located in the suburbs with a golf course in the neighborhood. Basically upper middle class community. Ive been contemplating moving to Tampa area. This same house equivalent in a similair upper middle class community in Tampa would be about 5500/ month (minimum). Houses in the hood in Tampa/Miami cost the same as what I'm paying to live in the suburbs here. No thanks. Ill stick to visiting Florida only, unless my income jumps to 200k/year.
avg housing cost in AZ now 360k vs 242k in 2019. insane growth in prices and salary has not followed. Too many cash buyers flocking from CA or investors to take these houses. Perfect storm for unaffordability happening now. Low inventory, high prices because of low inventory, and high interest rates. Virtually impossible to buy a house here in the state where the avg household income is 80K
Why do we even have houses in a place that summer temps are 114+ degrees.
I didn't expect Texas to get four of 10. San Antonio and Houston have an advantage of being an easy drive to the ocean and beaches. Texas cities are not an easy drive to the mountains of New Mexico or Colorado.
San Antonio is hours from a beach?
Percentage wise, Sarasota is growing faster than any of the big four Florida metro areas.
Sarasota is growing because the others have recently maxed out, sending people west.
Bummer. I’m an hour south of Sarasota and we’re maxing out too.
Lee county too
? I am genuinely surprised that Salt Lake City was not on this list. I know Salt Lake City itself doesn't even come close to 1 million people, but the Wasatch Front has to be at least 1.5 million people. 10 or 20 years ago, I would have thought there were three, possibly four separate areas in close proximity, but they have basically become one large area. Those four previously distinct areas are Salt Lake City and it's suburbs, Provo, Ogden, and Park City, and every city/town in between each of these areas. Bottom line, they have basically become one large area. Although, I have a feeling that the Salt Lake City metropolitan area is still considered separate from Ogden and Provo and Park City. I don't know for certain, but my gut would say that Salt Lake City metropolitan area is growing crazy fast, but probably is not quite one million people. The Park City area is growing fast, Provo is probably growing but not exceptionally fast, and Ogden is surprisingly either stagnating or possibly losing population. That is just my gut feeling. I am not basing this on any data. It would be interesting to have you do a video about Salt Lake City and possibly Utah, and it's many contradictions. Obviously, Utah is a Republican state, but Salt Lake City itself is extremely liberal. Surprisingly so in my opinion. When I moved back to Salt Lake City from Seattle after being gone for 11 years, I could not believe the mayor at the time, Rocky Anderson. He was/is unabashedly liberal. Although someone whom I respect pointed out that whenever you have an extreme whatever it is, you often have an opposite. Also, just to clarify and not have a bunch of people correct me, Salt Lake County almost always has a democratic mayor, but I think it is more in play then Salt Lake City itself or the governorship for instance. To be 100% clear, none of what I write is a criticism or phrase. It is simply an observation.
There are lots of articles that will tell you that Phoenix has a water problem. The strongest data against that fact is that Arizona uses less water to take care of its 7 million population in 2023 than it did to take care of its 700,000 population in 1950s. And the canary in the coal mine of Phoenix's water issues is a neighborhood just outside of Scottsdale called Rio Verde - a community that still has people building houses while they aren't being assured any water by any municipality. They have to purchase water or build their own wells. And yet people are moving there and building million dollar homes. That doesn't sound like a slowdown to me... that sounds like a resilient, strong area. The fact is that while the Sonoran Desert experiences the longest drought in its history, it has added millions and millions of people and is now receiving even more job security from federal investment as massive microchip fabricators are beginning to build factories in the valley. Please do more than just surface-level research on your videos.
I plan on moving from the DFW as soon as I can. The heat here is unbearable and driving to everywhere fucking sucks. I HATE driving, yet that’s the only way I can get anywhere I want to go.
Moving to Florida is a bad idea. There's THOUSANDS of homes being built everywhere and they are doing nothing to help with traffic and expansion of the roads. They're only JUST now fixing the highway by adding one more lane that was needed 10 YEARS AGO. I imagine florida will look like LA one day, at least traffic wise around Tampa region.
Thankfully people move literally all over the entire state winch spreads the growth out.
Charlottes urban sprawl is crazy. Only 2 million people but it covers a massive area
If your moving to Orlando move to Pine Hills you'll love it
It's cheaper to live in Texas IF (if!) you are coming from a place like Cali/NYC. Anywhere else, Texas is more expensive. It's as bad as when I moved to Tampa back in '98. Coming from NYC, I was amazed how cheap cost of living was. Folks from Georgia, West Virgina, etc, never stopped complaining of much more expensive Tampa/FL was.
A lot of these are pandemic trends that are already reversing since last year!
UGH. I was hoping that San Antonio would NOT make this list. Property values are thru the roof making property taxes a nightmare!
New construction is consistently dropping. Every month, I get new "price reduced" notification from zillow, 3 months in a row so far.
Don't know if it is helping older homes' property value, but it has to be better than that new construction rising in price. You have A LOT of new construction homes available there right now.
Glad you use your resources and show it, because most people don't..
Very interesting video.
I think Phoenix will "flatten" out.
I don’t think so. Growth is now sprawling towards Pinal county which is next to Maricopa County.
@@janisianjusino9961 This is true.
So many people don't understand the cost of living and taxes. State government still need tax dollars to function. Where do you think that comes from? If they aren't getting anything from income tax, they are going to get it in another way...or they are going to let their state crumble.
I live in Minnesota. We have some of the highest taxes in the country. My sister and her husband are low income earners. They decided to move to Texas because of the "cost of living." Yeah rent was cheaper...but other stuff was more expensive. As people in this thread have said, look at property taxes. They also made less money doing the same jobs. They ended up moving back to Minnesota because their situation wasn't any better down there, so may as well be where family is at.
We could look at my wife's income. She is a registered nurse. She is part of the nursing union. She makes $100k a year. According to our taxes, 30% of her income went to taxes, so she made $70k. Guess how much she would make as a nurse in Texas? $70k.
Move to Texas (or any other place) because you like it, not for economic reasons...UNLESS you are rich. If you are making millions of dollars, move to a state with no income tax. If you are the average American, don't fall for that scam.
He who knows the story!
Dallas could be the 2nd largest metro in the US by 2030 😳
Give it 10-20 years when the temperature is a LOT hotter than it is now. The last place people are going to want be in Texas and Florida. I Detroit, Chicago and anywhere else along the Great Lakes is going to make a huge comeback because of much lower temperatures and endless supplies of water.
The problem with Texas is that if you are a homeowner you will foot the bill, since Property Tax is the major contributor to funding the state since there is no state income tax.
Corporations don’t have to pay state income tax on top of getting large tax credits.
I can assure you that if you're renting, you, too, are indirectly paying property taxes.
@@1pinestreetif you renting in an apartment complex the tax is atleast divided across all residents.
In theory the primary benefit of renting in a complex is aggregating common costs across all residents to lower the percieved cost of things like replacing a boiler. (Also not having to do certain things yourself)
Obviously if the property tax is lower on your complex your indirect payment for it will also be lower.
@@1pinestreetBingo! We have higher tax rates than New York State actually. You’ll be hard pressed to find low rise complexes in the city here these days. A lot of old duplexes too are now gone. Land here has gotten ridiculous. There’s 3 plots of land near me going for 170K lowest and 285K highest. It’s gotten insanely expensive here.
This isn’t completely true though. All corporations get credits for one, but they pay billions here. A good video on it is “why Louisiana stays poor” that delves into how the SAME oil companies Valero, Exxon, etc that are in both states pay differently in both. Louisiana let’s them pay next to nothing. And it shows tremendously. Ever been on I10 over the Sabine River? It gets third worldy real quick lol. The lake Charles bridge is literally a ticking time bomb and the LADOT can’t be bothered.
Despite people moving to Florida home insurance companies are leaving. Farmers being an example
I’ve been in Austin for over a decade. Considering moving to Houston now because I can sell my little condo in town and buy a 4000 sf house with pool 3 car garage and on a golf course for the same price
I live in Austin and it continues to grow but in terms of volume Houston and DFW are growing faster. Housing prices in Texas has stabilized and it is still relatively cheap comparted to many other places such as the east and west coasts. Projections have the state surpassing the 40 million mark in 25 year or less. There are around 25 metro areas around the lone star state and all of them are growing. Property taxes are high in some areas but there is no state income tax. Texas is pro business and at the end of the day business gets to make their own decisions, not the state yet the state has some of the strongest consumer protection laws in the nation. So yes, Disney would do very well in Texas as they would always have the final say so by default.
11:45 Correction: the article you cited referred not to Jacksonville, FL, but Jacksonville Illinois.
I don't get why people move to hellish ovens to escape the cold when you can get mild winters and less brutal summers in the Mid Atlantic.
I will say, you just explored the Texas Triangle
Yes and they can’t drive I’m Dallas even traffic on weekends now I hate it can’t wait till kids hit high school
I just looked at the Wikipedia page you were using. Austin isn't number one by your criteria. It should have been number 2. Behind Louisville, Kentucky. It had a pop. of 1,285,439 in 2020. And a pop. of 1,395,634 in the 2022 estimate. A growth of +8.57%. lol.
excellent and very informative video ! I find the Tampa/Clearwater/Dunedin area a great location --beaches/water/multi ages/culture/food/convenience/accessibility to a lot and an outstanding large beautiful airport
Ugly sprawling cities with parking lots everywhere and strip malls everywhere
how's the home insurance situation?
A nice area!
no, you mean LA@@Electrodexify
While those states don’t put a “income tax” they tax everything else high. So it balances out. It’s not a “perk” it’s a short side people think is a perk but when they live there, then they see it isn’t cheap. The people in the south west won’t last long, they need water so they will move back near the Great Lakes.
In Charlotte, half of the residents go to church, while the other half steal their cars.
As the real estate prices and rents skyrocket in Texas, so do the property taxes. Texas has extremely high property taxes, and when the cost of housing goes up, the property tax bill looks even more enormous.
Tx Property taxes statewide were reduced by $100K of assessed value approved by the voters in 2023. Plus TX has two exemptions available, if you are 65 years or older, these property values are not reassessed. Disabled military pay zero property taxes. Partial military disability is a sliding scale (i am told by a neighbor). Check on that. Utility rates to rise due to infrastructure improvement needs. We still have power at: $.13 kWh in my town. Some towns are de-regulated electric. I Moved from Fresno, CA a year ago. 70 years old. Will Never go back to Commiefornia! Texas also has a high speed rail under construction, Dallas to Houston.
I really hate calling two cities that connect by sprawling single family homes a "metroplex". It's nothing but terrible, car dependant, suburban sprawl that puts a drain on the city's resources.
Yet it's booming by every single metric
@seanthe100 at least for now. Growth will drive up the costs....and demand for water.
Louisiana lacks opportunities and major corporations. They want everybody to be short order cooks. Cost of living high. High housing and car insurance.Low pay
I'd be interested to know the median age of the immigrants to these areas. Are they chasing seven-figure salaries in unstable STEM fields like cryptocurrency and EVs, or are they boomers and gen-Xers retiring in areas where it's impossible to afford a home on full-time pay? Or are they actual working-class people who have a means of supporting themselves and working toward their own goals?
Gen-X retiring? The oldest in the group is what, 60? I hope they're wealthy AF if they are retiring.
@@le_th_ What's more important? Working 40-50-60 years and getting a bunch of money, or meeting your financial needs and having a life outside of your pay stub?
I hope millennials are retiring right now.
STEM careers are not unstable and are rarely in crypto or EVs. They pay very well and can often work from home.
Most immigrants just live on welfare no joke maybe some work hard maybe 1/3 of them
Good video, subing
Large growth in areas that are going to get smoked with worse weather and insurance hikes to follow the weather issues. Hope for the best.
San Antonio has become way too crowded and no longer affordable (wages don’t support the prices)
What happened to Vegas. I thought they would have made the list?
Dallas is a depressing concrete dystopia. Move there if quality of life isn't very important to you. Spent 25 years there.
Also its hotter than absolute shit.
Totally agree! I have never visited anywhere multiple times i have hated so much! ANYwhere but the big D! Ugh
With no sidewalks in city neighborhoods for regular folk.
King of the hill syndrome rules Texas.
For Everybody else it’s “let them eat cake”
Amazing. Let's remember that rapid growth is typical for late stage cancer. A place like Phoenix will be like an Anasazi ruin or like Detroit in a decade or two. Yes, hard to imagine but the forces that will kill these cities are far outside of their control and moving fast.
Yep, essentially RoboCop world for every major metro. That's the actual cost of extreme growth, and it's slow and painful to come.
Just look at Seattle from 20 years ago to today...a lesson or 56 are to be learned from that debacle
No keep dreaming Phoenix is doing just fine my Uncle has been there forever
they just need to get rid of Hobbs that's all, because no one actually voted for her.
They have a political problem not a water one solve that and the water issue gets
dealt with just like all desserts, a tree hugger like hobbs just doesn't want to do it.
@@DiligoBarba LOL. That's great. I was looking to move to Phoenix 40 years ago and I looked at a map and saw all the golf courses and realized that these people have no idea where they are and the long term history of the area. But like I said, go ahead and live the delusion, what is coming is not going to change and could care less about your election cycles.
Rapid growth seemed to work out just fine for cities like new york 🤷🏻
Some of those booming cities, are forecast to be the hottest by 2050 😰
For sure, all of the climate predictions for the last 30-40 years have definitely been 100 percent accurate
Will we all still be here by 2050?
South Carolina is exploding with new people!
And we don't want anymore either! If I never hear another NY or NJ accent again it wouldn't bother me in the least.
What does gov. data say?
I just moved from Orlando to Colorado Springs. Orlando hot summers were just too much and after 10 years, I had enough. Besides, you basically have to fly to any other part of the country. While Florida has no state income tax, with insurance companies leaving, it is getting very expensive to have home or auto insurance in the state. My first insurance company left the state, which resulted in my rate doubling from the previous year. Alas, I choose Farmers - which announced their departure. Too bad, because if you can tolerate the excessive summer heat, the state is really nice otherwise. Winters are glorious - all 6 weeks! The ultimate play is to be a snowbird - if you can afford it.
Hot summers, not hurricanes, is the main drawback to anywhere in Florida. Hurricanes may play an indirect factor if _all_ the insurance companies leave the state. Mortgage companies require insurance for loans - so that limits things to only cash buyers willing to take all the risk. Unless you're looking at a direct hit by a Cat 3 or worse, they aren't a big deal if you prepare correctly - in that case, other humans panic-buying are the biggest issue. This is one area that Orlando has a huge advantage over any coastal city.
I moved from Orlando to Interlachen FL and my car insurance went down 150.00 per month.
Realistically Hurricanes are the sort of thing you can build for, its just a matter of enforcing it in the building code.
Personally the 2 biggest reasons i would never consider Florida are the Hot Summers (this Yank thinks 85°F and 60%rh is hot, and 40°F and sunny is shorts weather, i would simply die in the Florida summer).
And the entire peninsula is flat and low lying, and considering how the world's governments are still only giving just more than lip service to climate change, i don't think its a wise investment to be buying future ocean floor property. (I know its like a 100 years out before the peninsula is underwater, but thats also just 1 human lifespan away)
I'm from and still live in Orlando. The heat is one of the main factors why I want to move. It's literally too hot June-September to do anything outside besides go to the beach...and you can only do that so many times. You can't be outside to enjoy the city. Traffic and cost of living suck now too.
@@WalksandSuch . I don't mind the heat because I'm climatized.
My wife and I moved from Colorado (Fort Collins) last year to the northeast coast of Florida. She is a native Coloradoan and I lived most of my life in Colorado. We grew up in Colorado Springs and are very familiar with all the benefits of Colorado as well as the negatives. We absolutely LOVE Florida. If people want to discuss unaffordable housing Colorado is one most expensive states in the US and significantly more expensive than Florida. Our home we purchased in Florida would have been 60%-65% more in Colorado, especially since we’re on 1/4 acre. Moving to Florida also saves me 4.5% of my income since Florida doesn’t have state income tax. Colorado state legislators have raised taxes on business, specifically small business. I’m an independent contractor and was hit with a high 4 figure tax increase on my business in 2021. This is an annual business tax that is sure to increase every year and separate from personal taxes. Yes, homeowner insurance is higher but ours for 2022/2023 wasn’t horrible and it is with a major insurance company. Car insurance in Florida is a little higher than Colorado. Summers are hot in Florida for sure but living 2.5 miles from the Atlantic Ocean makes the summers a little more tolerable. If I am being honest I wouldn’t like living in central Florida. I’d rather have 4 months of hot and 8 months of outstanding weather any day that ends in a “Y”. Hail is a serious concern in Colorado and it hails often. If you don’t have a garage to park your car be prepared for hail damage. It is going to happen even with a garage as a car will undoubtedly be out in the weather. Snow and ice …. Yeah, not in Florida but in Colorado. While the front range isn’t as bad as the high country, it is still bad enough. Streets in residential developments rarely, if ever, get plowed and the snow will become compacted by local traffic. The high altitude sun is terrific for melting off snow, until it is gone and evening comes and turns he melted snow into ice. Ice is a problem for anyone. While northeast Florida can get below freezing (5 nights last year and the lowest temperature was 25 degrees Fahrenheit) it can be very cold in the Colorado front range. There is usually a week, maybe two, when daytime highs will be below 0 degrees Fahrenheit. Generally you can expect winter time daily high temperatures to be between 10 degrees Fahrenheit to the low 60 degree Fahrenheit range. Yes, I’ve seen mid 60s in January so those moving to Colorado buckle up for a winter weather temperature roller coaster.
At the end of the day be happy where you’re moving to. Hopefully the place is perfect for what you want. My wife and I found our piece of paradise in Florida. We absolutely love it and have embraced it. We have no intention of turning Florida into Colorado in any sense. We came to Florida for what it offered and know there are some things we don’t prefer (those oppressive hot humid summer days and bugs) but have learned to coexist with it knowing this is a smaller part of the year. Overall Florida fits us very well.
I blame Alex Jones and Steve Austin for making Austin popular
Joe Rogan by far
@JB-sg1vy Rogan just recently came the other two been in Austin for decades
@@NihilistSolitude well Austin has not been that popular for “ decades “ case in point.
OMG! Are these people serious? If I want to be roasting, I’ll move back to Taipei!
11: Nashville TN
10: Houston TX
9: Orlando FL
8. Phoenix AZ
7. Charlotte NC
6. Tampa FL
5. San Antonio TX
4. Dallas TX
3. Jacksonville FL
2. Raleigh NC
1. Austin TX
Oracle is leaving Austin for Nashville.
There are a few problems with these booming areas. For many of them is WATER. Many people flocking to those areas are coming from places were water is taken for granted. As more people move in, the infrastructure will need to change. In addition, the demand will increase the cost. What was a "paradise" even 10 years ago, is really no longer. It can't be. The best way to to get to a "paradise" is to move to where not many people are going to. The Phoenix area was not meant to sustain the population that it now has. Texas has all its MANMADE lakes, but water is an issue there, but not like Phoenix. Florida now has high cost insurance. Moral of the story, you can run, but you can't hide.
Please tell them!