I have always thought that the curse of Jacob over the person who had stolen his father-in-law’s idols was the cause for Rachel’s death. Our words carry power. “You must give an account on judgment day of every idle word you speak…either you will be justified by them or you will be condemned“ (Matthew 12:36-37). That’s why it’s so important for us to be careful with the words we use in our everyday lives. We could curse others without fully realizing it.
Dear Lord, fill my heart with gratitude for the blessings you've bestowed upon me. Help me to recognize and appreciate the beauty and abundance in my life.
She gave a self-fulfilling prophecy, "Give me children, or else I'll die". When Jacob was dying and giving final instruction he said to bury him in the cave where Leah was buried showing Jacob realized that God's chosen bride for him was Leah, especially since Judah was from her.
Yours is the most accurate comment because people don't often realize that there is divine ordering to even God choosing your spouse. This doesn't apply to every marriage, but Leah was chosen to bear Judah. Jacob might have preferred Rachel, but God ordained Leah for Jacob. Anything other than what God has divinely ordained will have to die.
Now the grace of God is showing in that Jacobs favorite son Joseph was chosen to save the Jews during the famine, so God didn't just let Joe or Benji not have insignificance.
But for me, the key word here is "or". I believe her words were simply that her longing to be a Mother was overbearing, and if she did not give birth, she could die from sorrow, or just simply could not go on in that way. I certainly don't know for sure, but stealing, and lying to your Father, and allowing someone else, (let alone your husband), take the fall, will definitely cause you to reap hardship. And the scriptures made it a point to say the sisters were constantly competing against each other. This has to be distracting for a man of God who needs to be near to God to hear his voice and know what his path should be. 💞
Nevertheless Rachel is considered as the mother of Israel(in the book of Isaiah & Rev) and Judah was from the seed of Jacob, Leah was just a portal for Judah to be born
Heavenly Father, in times of uncertainty, I turn to you as my rock and my refuge. Grant me the clarity of mind to make wise decisions and the faith to trust in your plan, knowing that you are always with me.
I think Rachael died in childbirth due to a breech birth since the midwife told her not to worry because she was having a son. The baby's head comes first and there was no way of seeing that it was a boy if the head would have been first.
100% correct breech birth Secret things belong to LORD If possible we can ask GOD Why HE took her & furthermore risk on breech is really high for fetus Suffocation! Shoulder dystopia or CPD. Head or shoulder get stuck! Either way mom died & they do today too! During before or after !
Rachel was cursed by her father for her father chose her sister to get married first to Jacob and then had Jacob repeat another 7 year cycle with Leah which left Rachel feeling insecure for she was getting older. Why would her father hold her marriage from Jacob I think he favored Leah more. It also seemed that Rachel was trying to fit in by having kids at a later age. Her father it seems wanted Leah to have a family with Jacob and had cursed the the divine love between Jacob and Rachel. Her father was an idol worshipper, so his own selfish reasons and greed persuaded Jacob to marry Leah. The two sons of Rachel were blessed by God and became leaders.
I think Rachel died because Benjamin was breech. The midwife said to not despair because she was birthing another son. The only way she would know that is if he was born butt first. Breech births are extremely difficult and, in the absence of medical intervention, can be deadly for the mother. As these were ancient times, there were no adequate medical interventions available. But I have to wonder why the midwife didn't notice it sooner and try to turn the baby around.
I'll give a vote for idolatry as the cause of her death because she stole those pagan god statues. She was risking her life to keep those and that act didn't please our true God.
True that was the reason. The God of her husband was the true God and once married to him she should have worshiped him alongside her husband, but she chose the gods of her father. Also her stealing from her father put everyone in the camp of Jacob, as her father Laban wanted to use this as an excuse to capture Jacob and return him back with them. Keeping him around to work for Laban for many more years. If it wasn't for God Warning him against any harm to Jacob..
Rachel death was not any punishment from God. It was God's intension to put Rachel to put into sleep. Because God wanted Jacob to have only 12 sons, which have great ecclesiastical significance, e.g. 12 tribes, 12 Apostles, etc.
Where in the Bible does it say Leah conspired to marry Jacob? All it says is that her father sent her in to Jacob. Do you think she was given a choice? She knew who Jacob loved. And the implication is Jacob was so drunk he didn't even notice he was with the wrong woman. Quite an insult to both women. Laban was obsessed with Rachel? What is that even supposed to mean?
Stop being emotional. Many drunk men have woken up to something they were ashamed of or duped into. 🤭 As for Leah, her father Laban kept pushing her onto Jakob because the culture practices were that the oldest was to be married before the younger sibling(s).
Thank you, very educational and touching. Keep up good work👏 Who can explore God's strange design? Nobody, God is unsearchable. Blessed be God forever 🙏
My Heart goes out to Rachael.l find myself in Love with my ex-husband All over again after twenty years of being divorced.I was a very verbal woman.I feel like I'm dying.Please Pray for me And with me for Gods' MERCY.I Long For RECONCILIATION.Thank You JESUS.🙏😭🕊
Only God knows , we as humans can only speculate, we need to just trust God's sovereign will in everything even if we do not understand it , that is why He is God and we are but humans.
Was God plans. Was wonderful and pleasant to listen the story of Rachel in beautiful way related . Thank you very much for your hard work to relate us the Bible story . God bless You
Jacob’s words regarding the stolen idols were a simple statement of truth. They were probably made of precious metals and stones, so valuable. When the truth of what she had done came out, it probably affected the relationship between them and may have been why she had to ‘buy’ a night with Jacob. Jacob was the one who was gevurh - strength and law. He would have been shocked that the woman he loved had stolen and lied. Especially the head of the prophetic dynasty. Being the second wife in a polygamist marriage is hard enough and with distrust as well could have led to her becoming ill and weak. Benoni son of sorrow- you can hear her loss and grief from her failure. Jacob turned it round as much as he could, but you cannot undo some things. Joseph was persecuted, possibly due to family gossip about her. He was excluded, but became great in the goyim, and saved us but the tribe was split later. Benjamin also was almost wiped out later. But I do so identify with Rachel bless her. Weak, but for the grace of G-d not extinguished. Just like us Jews throughout history!
I’ve always pitied both sisters Leah and Rachel. Her father and aunt (Jacob’s mother) were both deceptive tricksters playing with the lives of their children. Awful elders.
Rachel disobeyed God when it came to idols. Initially stealing the Father's idols and then refusing to hand it over to him, when he came looking for it and allowed Jacob to pronounce a judgment on her unwittingly and unknowingly. Secondly in Genesis 35:11And God said unto Jacob, Arise, go up to Bethel, and dwell there: and make there an altar unto God, who appeared unto you when you fled from the face of Esau your brother. 2.Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the foreign gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments: 4And they gave unto Jacob all the foreign gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem. ----------------- Rachel tenaciously hung on to her idols maybe? Because if she did turn over her father's idols, it would have shown that she had both lied to her father and to Jacob. In the same chapter, soon after putting away the idols by Jacob's people, Deborah, Rebekah's nurse died. Followed by Rachel died. Maybe Deborah knew of Rebekah's secret and kept silent? Rachel was struck soon after that? It is too much of a coincidence that putting away or discarding the idols and Rachel's nurse and she dying. It really points to idolatry without stating it in words.
I'm not sure which of them could have cause her death. But I personally believe that she shoud have walked away from the relationship, seeing her Sister had married him. Even though Leah married Jacob through deception. She was still considered is wife and she was honored by God. Her son Judah were given kingly lineage and the promise Messiah came from her and the Priest hood also. She was the only one that was buried with the family and there is so much more that can be said. what I do believe is that God's plan was for Jacob to have one wife, and being the first wife she was honored by God.
Care should be taken in rendering a response like this. Think about the fact that Saul from the tribe of Benjamin was the first king over Israel. Likewise, Paul, the apostle, was also from the tribe of Benjamin. Again, it was the tribes of Benjamin and Judah, which were the combined tribes, forming the Jewish nation. Also, precious little, if anything, has been said about Joseph, who was used to save them from famine, and on whom was conferred the ultimate patriarchal blessing from his father, Jacob. These guys were Rachel's sons. Maybe she had developed a heart condition, occasioned by her longing for motherhood, that this second birth took her breath away.
@@georgebrown4419interesting. Women were so expected to produce children back then that it was considered a curse when they didn’t. Imagine the mourning and stress that caused her physically. Extreme stress and sadness do affect the heart. When we live in constant stress, worry, shame and guilt it definitely affects our health in terrible ways.
@@georgebrown4419i thought Josephs 2 sons were named after.. the 12 tribes of Isreal. I really think only God can put a curse on any of his creatures. Curse sounds to me like a bad word. I think Rachel died because the baby was breech
Rachel likely had severe bleeding that did not stop, my maternal grandmother had 5 breech births, the last , a stuck breech with severe bleeding and an exhausted mother. They called the doctor who told my grandfather that nothing could be done to save mother and child, so if you are a praying man than pray. He called the Elders of the situation and asked them to pray that both mother and child would be saved. A miracle of Grace led to birth and ceasing of bleeding. My grandmother took many months to fully recover and my Aunt was a healthy baby with no issues. What are the odds of survival with bleeding that does not stop or a baby stuck for 3 days not have any mental or physical effects without Divine Intervention. The midwife and Doctor held no hope. But God was gracious. The love of my grandmother was precious to me. Her Godly life and simple trust in God’s Faithfulness an example to follow. I would not have had all that and more treasured memories if God had not intervened and spared her life
Another possible explanation is that bearing children became Rachel’s obsession or idol. More important to her than God Himself, perhaps. And He will sometimes separate people from anything more important to them than Himself, according to His perfect plan. I also cannot help but notice that Jacob’s only legitimate wife was now Leah, whom he had not loved nor respected nor appreciated during Rachel’s lifetime.
True... It simply shows that God is gracious to the lowly.. Rachel received Jacob's love while Leah did not receive her husband's love. So she is one who seek the Lord. Rachel is someone who is sly. She stole, she despised her sister, nag Jacob to give her a child . Not a good woman to me . That's totally my view
In my opinion, I think it is more on Scientific basis, considering the harsh condition of the dessert, the hardship of travels under scorching heat, the very limited method of child birth delivery, and perhaps Rachel's age. If it is due to a curse, then it should have happened soon enough. But we can never easily tell or nor just judge every events. Everything happened may have been allowed by God for some good reasons only He knew. As others say "In God's time". If we're going to bring out the details point by point, this will go to a very long narrative. But the bottomline of these all is that... God, our heavenly Father, is indeed, and always have been very merciful.
"The children shall suffer the sins of the father". This all falls on laban. He was down right nasty and deceitful. To deceive jacob like that was the initial strike against God. Jacob didnt idolize rachel. He worked hard gavd his word and laban used him. Lied to him. Forced him to marry his eldest. Leah is no saint either. She conspired with her father to deceive jacob. More than likely out of jealousy. And labans obsession with rachel was more than likely rooted in some sick fantasy. Leaving laban to watch her suffer giving birth to children that would hate him. His legacy forever ruined.
Personally I always thought that - God made a law later that a man must not marry two sisters because of the anguish Leah experienced by being less loved than Rachel. There was a great imbalance, it was unfair to Leigh. Rachel had to go. I don't think her death was from any 'self-fulfilling prophesies' . When she stole the idols, it is good - Laban shouldn't have been fooling around with his idols anyway. She didn't worship them maybe destroyed or sold them. Why else would God answer her prayer?
I love The Lord not because what he does for me , but just because who he is in my life yes I fall short but I Love the Lord. I talk to him , pray to him Worship him because he's all sovereign he's the master of my life .
My cousin had a horrible death. She was a lifelong Christian. And one day she found a lump on her breast. Even though she was a nurse, she decided to pray it away. It was cancer that spread to her brain. She had the most horrible death.
That's why you don't "try" to pray it "away" and understand heath and common sense medicine. Much of these stories don't make sense. Some is bs. True spirituality isn't this.
@@dannylo5875 Praying alleviates the pain for both sufferers and suffering (everyone involved) - for lack of a better word. For many it gives a sense of relief per se. Although death isn't always pleasant ie. dying "peacefully " in one's sleep is the so-called "goal". Being ready for The Messiah's Second Coming is the ULTIMATE goal for many if not 'some'.
I’m sorry. I’m not against prayer but I’m also not against listening to medical advice. Matthew was a physician and Jesus never told him to stop caring for the sick. It’s so painful to lose someone you love 😢
I always feel so sad that Jacob and Rachel could not simply marry- like young people in love...why did this awful deception happen? Leah also suffered so much. Only I understand that God always brings good out of failure. So Leah had 3 sons with failings and a 4th , Judah, who developed character and was judged worthy to be the ancestor of Yeshua the Saviour! This is one of those mysteries. Joseph the exemplary son was not the chosen ancestor....Judah the reformed son of the rejected wife was .Can it be to fulful; a man of sorrows and rejected by men So He came from the rejected and sorrowful wife?
@@KittymoreJoy True. Appreciate your comment - on that vein- also Joseph, successful as he was , was essentially a broken person - rejected and almost murdered by his brothers(and bearing the trauma of this) , punished for doing good, forgotten in prison....interesting that he died before his brothers and he was younger than then all except for Benjamin
women die in child birth all the time it was very common then, she did wrong but who didn't in this world look at Jackob - it was an event that happend
She was a human being and like many unfortunate women today had birth complications, it suggests a breech given midwife's observation, possibly followed by severe bleeding and haemorrhage. Nothing spiritual. She obviously had some gynaecological issues that caused barren essential. Often such women in turn have birth complications. We live in a fallen world. Death and sickness our lot in life. Had she been born today. She may have had a c section, an oxytocin drip and maybe a blood transfusion. And got better and went on her merry way. But her biggest problem, born 4000 years too early!
Nice work and opinions. I think Rachel loving her father Idols shaped her sad destiny. She could conceive more children like her sister Leah if she get rid of her loving idolatry. Leah had faith and trust on Jacob's God (Her words after every child made clear) Finaly she PRAISED her God (became her God) by Judah. I never heard anything godly sayings from Rachel,
Jacob worked for 7 years for the sake of Racheal and his father in law betrayed him and got his elder daughter to marry Jacob. That was the Jacob's love that he worked 7 seven more years for Racheal. So Racheal was the love of his life and he was only wanted to got married with her not Leah.... Rachel's death may be due her word and or Jacob's cursed....
Leah deceived Jacob. (Not telling him that she is Leah at the wedding). She also should have died as punishment if Rachel indeed died as punishment for deceiving Jacob. (Not telling him that SHE stole the idols)
Laban deceived Jacob. And no doubt Jacob was drunk on his wedding night. Jacob learned a hard lesson since he had also deceived his own father with the help of his mother. Women weren’t really afforded the luxury of speaking out. When Jesus came He was the one who valued women😮
The power of tongue is real. Idol worship was and is forbidden but Rachel stole those images from her father Laban. This was wrong and that is why Jacob buried her along the road.
Goodness, until the last century, many women lost their lives during childbirth. One might think that God punished Jacob for his deception of his father and Esaue with help of his mother, by taking Rachel, who was dear to him, as one of these tragedies.
It makes so much more sense now why all Josephs brothers hated him, watching their Mother Leah grow unloved by their father, and then due to his love for Rebecca the first son she gave him was Joseph and his delight showed when he gave him that pretty colored rode eh? hmm, wow Glory Be To God.
@Kittymorejoy- I concur! Definitely could have been a severe hemorrhage and the horrible conditions she probably was surrounded by 💔 Praise JESUS for a praying husband and that your grandmother survived is truly GOD'S Divine intervention!🙌🏼
I'm with the first theory. Jacob was one of God's chosen. His words have more power than others due to that status. And being that close to God when he cast that curse on the person who stole Laban's pagan idols, it stuck big time. That theory rings true to me because I've had similar happen to me. I was not ready for a child that had been given to me, and was casting all sorts of hatred onto it due to the stress I was feeling. I was scared and frightened...enough where God heard that cry and I miscarried. He then placed another child in my life...after I was ready to have a kid with my husband and now it seems he REALLY wants this kid to be raised righteously. He hasn't been officially baptized and he refuses to grow, even if he's a happy little guy. I'm going to have him baptized and see where things go. God is definitely working in my life. I'm just a stubborn piece of clay that sometimes refuses to cooperate!
You made an ERROR.....Jacob did not wait another 7 years to marry Rachel. After the bridal week time for Leah he was given Rachel AND THEN WORKED those 7 years. ACCURACY IS CRUCIAL FOR GOD'S THINGS PLEASE❤
None of these polygamous marriages were peaceful. The wives were fighting. E.g hannah and penninah, sarah and hagar, leah and rachel. The children were also fighting. E.g. joseph and his brothers, ammon and absalom, adonijah and solomon, isaac and ishmael.
The Book of Yashar (Book of the Upright) in the Apocrypha Chapter 31:44 And Rachel stole these images (idols) which were her father's, in order that Laban might not know through them where Jacob had gone. So I would have to surmise that Rachel's son BenYahmin was probably a breech baby. I do highly recommend getting the books of the Apocrypha as they really fill in the blanks!!
I don't agree But, don't ever forget that the wives of Jacob envy Rachel cause she was the favorite. They wouldn't hesitate to throw her in a deep hall like Josef was by his brothers.
Praise the Lord!! Amen!! Laban's errors, Rachel's jealous and anger, and his son's disobedience, are not curse; it is the Jacob who has the leading spirit should have rectified it; " He (Jacob) had seek God only during his critical situation.(Gen 35:2) He failed to make his family to obey and disciplined before God...
Rachel drew the short stick. God coddled Leah and her whining and con to be the wife of a man who didnt want her. Jacob and his cons, Laben and his cons. Then God finally remembered Rachel (she was never a priorty, small potatoes for later).I've noticed that if your knit with a big heart ( his knitting) and get hurt its your fault for not having boundaries but if you set boundaries your unloving. All manipulations. Wonder what would have happened if Rachel went rogue and sold Leah since she liked to pretend to be someone else. Life at home would probably would have been calmer and a better birthing. Poor Rachel...Everyone in the game won but her.
I hardly call that winning. And God didn’t coddle Leah. She never had the love of her husband. God loved her as he loves all of us who love and trust Him
I believe Rachel died because of the words spoken by Jacob to Laban because we've already seen through the Patriarchs' blessings that their words carry weight with YHWH, even if the person is unaware of the situation (Isaac giving Jacob the blessing after being tricked). Also, Jacob we have to remember, was a prophet; we see this in his last words to his sons, where he even prophesies about the coming Messiah.
Joseph Peace be upon Him was a prophet of GOD. Mother of a Prophet can only be a pious lady. Fear GOD when mentioning the mothers of the Prophets . Do not say what you do not know.
My Dad named me Rachel … because he loved the name. I believe it was just because God intended her to die during birth , lots of women did during those times . Ironically my brother’s name is Benjamin.
Is there a reason so much of the story was skipped over? Like Jacob accidentally cursing Rachel to die? Or is it saved for the end rather than the beginning?
I may say, that GOD can give you a perfect match. Leah is enough; but as person we have this desire that sometimes we forget to listen to HIS message. On the other hand, Jacob has thing to settle with Esau the reason he went to Laban. In the end, Jacob and Rachel were the same if we talk about curse (they are matched as well). Over the top, GOD's love covers all sins. The word of GOD is true. If HE said He will bless you.... He will
I don't think that Rachael was cursed. It was not unusual for women to die in childbirth in ancient times. Perhaps it was a breech birth. There was little medical knowledge back them.
I have always thought that the curse of Jacob over the person who had stolen his father-in-law’s idols was the cause for Rachel’s death. Our words carry power. “You must give an account on judgment day of every idle word you speak…either you will be justified by them or you will be condemned“ (Matthew 12:36-37). That’s why it’s so important for us to be careful with the words we use in our everyday lives. We could curse others without fully realizing it.
You are correct. Jacob cursed his wife with death. He did not know that she had stollen the idols.
Dear Lord, fill my heart with gratitude for the blessings you've bestowed upon me. Help me to recognize and appreciate the beauty and abundance in my life.
Myself as well. Thank you Lord for everything from the air I breathe to the smallest blessing you gift me.
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When writing GOD please do it with capital letters in your subtitles. Thank You
Yes pls keep this in mind
God is a title and means "one who exaults thyself." It's not the Most High 2nd Enoch 20:3👈 His Name and dwelling.
Exactly
Thank you, I wanted to type the same message.
@@Shadoweknows76and it is not a sin to exult yourself.
She gave a self-fulfilling prophecy, "Give me children, or else I'll die". When Jacob was dying and giving final instruction he said to bury him in the cave where Leah was buried showing Jacob realized that God's chosen bride for him was Leah, especially since Judah was from her.
Yours is the most accurate comment because people don't often realize that there is divine ordering to even God choosing your spouse. This doesn't apply to every marriage, but Leah was chosen to bear Judah. Jacob might have preferred Rachel, but God ordained Leah for Jacob. Anything other than what God has divinely ordained will have to die.
Now the grace of God is showing in that Jacobs favorite son Joseph was chosen to save the Jews during the famine, so God didn't just let Joe or Benji not have insignificance.
But for me, the key word here is "or". I believe her words were simply that her longing to be a Mother was overbearing, and if she did not give birth, she could die from sorrow, or just simply could not go on in that way. I certainly don't know for sure, but stealing, and lying to your Father, and allowing someone else, (let alone your husband), take the fall, will definitely cause you to reap hardship. And the scriptures made it a point to say the sisters were constantly competing against each other. This has to be distracting for a man of God who needs to be near to God to hear his voice and know what his path should be. 💞
Deep revelation dear
Nevertheless Rachel is considered as the mother of Israel(in the book of Isaiah & Rev) and Judah was from the seed of Jacob, Leah was just a portal for Judah to be born
She died because of the words Jacob mentioned to laban , that whosoever the idols of laban should b found with would die
O wow!
I totally agree with this
Yes!!!
Correct
though it was a theory as mentioned in the video; it has possibilities. However, it remains speculative
Heavenly Father, in times of uncertainty, I turn to you as my rock and my refuge. Grant me the clarity of mind to make wise decisions and the faith to trust in your plan, knowing that you are always with me.
I think Rachael died in childbirth due to a breech birth since the midwife told her not to worry because she was having a son. The baby's head comes first and there was no way of seeing that it was a boy if the head would have been first.
Jacob cursed the person that stole the idol from laban....she died from the curse the childbirth was probably the avenue
Yes she died as a result of the curse through child birth
According to your thinking not according to the scripture l can't bring into conception and fail to bring forth
This is a really good point
100% correct breech birth
Secret things belong to LORD
If possible we can ask GOD Why HE took her
& furthermore risk on breech is really high for fetus
Suffocation!
Shoulder dystopia or CPD.
Head or shoulder get stuck!
Either way mom died & they do today too!
During before or after !
Hmmmmmm words are very very powerful! May the good Lord give us grace to seak positively🙏🏽
Rachel was cursed by her father for her father chose her sister to get married first to Jacob and then had Jacob repeat another 7 year cycle with Leah which left Rachel feeling insecure for she was getting older. Why would her father hold her marriage from Jacob I think he favored Leah more. It also seemed that Rachel was trying to fit in by having kids at a later age. Her father it seems wanted Leah to have a family with Jacob and had cursed the the divine love between Jacob and Rachel. Her father was an idol worshipper, so his own selfish reasons and greed persuaded Jacob to marry Leah. The two sons of Rachel were blessed by God and became leaders.
I think Rachel died because Benjamin was breech. The midwife said to not despair because she was birthing another son. The only way she would know that is if he was born butt first. Breech births are extremely difficult and, in the absence of medical intervention, can be deadly for the mother. As these were ancient times, there were no adequate medical interventions available. But I have to wonder why the midwife didn't notice it sooner and try to turn the baby around.
I'll give a vote for idolatry as the cause of her death because she stole those pagan god statues. She was risking her life to keep those and that act didn't please our true God.
I’ve wondered WHY she did it.
Your God. Not mine. I'll never bow down to the evil God of Israel
True that was the reason. The God of her husband was the true God and once married to him she should have worshiped him alongside her husband, but she chose the gods of her father. Also her stealing from her father put everyone in the camp of Jacob, as her father Laban wanted to use this as an excuse to capture Jacob and return him back with them. Keeping him around to work for Laban for many more years. If it wasn't for God Warning him against any harm to Jacob..
She did as an insurance against Lot as idols were also used as sigils back then
@@thepanda1044You will bow down and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That is 100% fact. God’s Word never comes back void.
How sad!! Poor Benjamin never got to know his mother!!😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😮....
Yaaa shame
But he had many step mothers around
When his brother was sold away it exasperated his situation
Rachel death was not any punishment from God. It was God's intension to put Rachel to put into sleep. Because God wanted Jacob to have only 12 sons, which have great ecclesiastical significance, e.g. 12 tribes, 12 Apostles, etc.
You have spiritual understanding Godbless you.
Where in the Bible does it say Leah conspired to marry Jacob? All it says is that her father sent her in to Jacob. Do you think she was given a choice? She knew who Jacob loved.
And the implication is Jacob was so drunk he didn't even notice he was with the wrong woman. Quite an insult to both women.
Laban was obsessed with Rachel? What is that even supposed to mean?
Stop being emotional. Many drunk men have woken up to something they were ashamed of or duped into. 🤭
As for Leah, her father Laban kept pushing her onto Jakob because the culture practices were that the oldest was to be married before the younger sibling(s).
Thank you, very educational and touching. Keep up good work👏
Who can explore God's strange design? Nobody, God is unsearchable. Blessed be God forever 🙏
So true!!!
My Heart goes out to Rachael.l find myself in Love with my ex-husband All over again after twenty years of being divorced.I was a very verbal woman.I feel like I'm dying.Please Pray for me And with me for Gods' MERCY.I Long For RECONCILIATION.Thank You JESUS.🙏😭🕊
Only God knows , we as humans can only speculate, we need to just trust God's sovereign will in everything even if we do not understand it , that is why He is God and we are but humans.
I don't believe Rachel was cursed in any way.
Rachel, worshipped idols ,stole, lied,put her trust in her husband instead of God. Let her husband sleep around. Of course it's divine intervention.
She's one of my least favorite persons from the bible.
Her husband didn’t sleep around. It was customary in that day and time. You are judging thru the lense of today.
Was God plans. Was wonderful and pleasant to listen the story of Rachel in beautiful way related . Thank you very much for your hard work to relate us the Bible story . God bless You
Jacob’s words regarding the stolen idols were a simple statement of truth. They were probably made of precious metals and stones, so valuable. When the truth of what she had done came out, it probably affected the relationship between them and may have been why she had to ‘buy’ a night with Jacob. Jacob was the one who was gevurh - strength and law. He would have been shocked that the woman he loved had stolen and lied. Especially the head of the prophetic dynasty.
Being the second wife in a polygamist marriage is hard enough and with distrust as well could have led to her becoming ill and weak. Benoni son of sorrow- you can hear her loss and grief from her failure. Jacob turned it round as much as he could, but you cannot undo some things.
Joseph was persecuted, possibly due to family gossip about her. He was excluded, but became great in the goyim, and saved us but the tribe was split later. Benjamin also was almost wiped out later.
But I do so identify with Rachel bless her. Weak, but for the grace of G-d not extinguished. Just like us Jews throughout history!
I’ve always pitied both sisters Leah and Rachel.
Her father and aunt (Jacob’s mother) were both deceptive tricksters playing with the lives of their children. Awful elders.
Rachel disobeyed God when it came to idols. Initially stealing the Father's idols and then refusing to hand it over to him, when he came looking for it and allowed Jacob to pronounce a judgment on her unwittingly and unknowingly.
Secondly in
Genesis 35:11And God said unto Jacob, Arise, go up to Bethel, and dwell there: and make there an altar unto God, who appeared unto you when you fled from the face of Esau your brother.
2.Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the foreign gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments:
4And they gave unto Jacob all the foreign gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem.
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Rachel tenaciously hung on to her idols maybe? Because if she did turn over her father's idols, it would have shown that she had both lied to her father and to Jacob. In the same chapter, soon after putting away the idols by Jacob's people, Deborah, Rebekah's nurse died. Followed by Rachel died. Maybe Deborah knew of Rebekah's secret and kept silent? Rachel was struck soon after that?
It is too much of a coincidence that putting away or discarding the idols and Rachel's nurse and she dying. It really points to idolatry without stating it in words.
Excellent Scripture Clarification
What was Rebekah's secret?
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I'm not sure which of them could have cause her death. But I personally believe that she shoud have walked away from the relationship, seeing her Sister had married him. Even though Leah married Jacob through deception. She was still considered is wife and she was honored by God. Her son Judah were given kingly lineage and the promise Messiah came from her and the Priest hood also. She was the only one that was buried with the family and there is so much more that can be said. what I do believe is that God's plan was for Jacob to have one wife, and being the first wife she was honored by God.
Care should be taken in rendering a response like this. Think about the fact that Saul from the tribe of Benjamin was the first king over Israel. Likewise, Paul, the apostle, was also from the tribe of Benjamin. Again, it was the tribes of Benjamin and Judah, which were the combined tribes, forming the Jewish nation. Also, precious little, if anything, has been said about Joseph, who was used to save them from famine, and on whom was conferred the ultimate patriarchal blessing from his father, Jacob. These guys were Rachel's sons. Maybe she had developed a heart condition, occasioned by her longing for motherhood, that this second birth took her breath away.
@@georgebrown4419interesting. Women were so expected to produce children back then that it was considered a curse when they didn’t. Imagine the mourning and stress that caused her physically. Extreme stress and sadness do affect the heart. When we live in constant stress, worry, shame and guilt it definitely affects our health in terrible ways.
Ummm..
Having more than one wife is bound to cause Jealousy, Strife, bitterness, and so much more.
Keep it simple...
@@georgebrown4419i thought Josephs 2 sons were named after.. the 12 tribes of Isreal. I really think only God can put a curse on any of his creatures. Curse sounds to me like a bad word. I think Rachel died because the baby was breech
Rachel likely had severe bleeding that did not stop, my maternal grandmother had 5 breech births, the last , a stuck breech with severe bleeding and an exhausted mother. They called the doctor who told my grandfather that nothing could be done to save mother and child, so if you are a praying man than pray. He called the Elders of the situation and asked them to pray that both mother and child would be saved. A miracle of Grace led to birth and ceasing of bleeding. My grandmother took many months to fully recover and my Aunt was a healthy baby with no issues. What are the odds of survival with bleeding that does not stop or a baby stuck for 3 days not have any mental or physical effects without Divine Intervention. The midwife and Doctor held no hope. But God was gracious. The love of my grandmother was precious to me. Her Godly life and simple trust in God’s Faithfulness an example to follow. I would not have had all that and more treasured memories if God had not intervened and spared her life
Another possible explanation is that bearing children became Rachel’s obsession or idol. More important to her than God Himself, perhaps.
And He will sometimes separate people from anything more important to them than Himself, according to His perfect plan.
I also cannot help but notice that Jacob’s only legitimate wife was now Leah, whom he had not loved nor respected nor appreciated during Rachel’s lifetime.
And yet he chose to be buried with Leah. Leah's father forced her on Jacob when he knew Jacob only wanted Rachel.
I don’t think so because Hannah would be dead too
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Interesting analysis 🤔
@@vxinn7769and of course could be too, only that Hannah already positioned herself to surrender the son she would receive, to the service of God.
True... It simply shows that God is gracious to the lowly.. Rachel received Jacob's love while Leah did not receive her husband's love. So she is one who seek the Lord. Rachel is someone who is sly. She stole, she despised her sister, nag Jacob to give her a child . Not a good woman to me . That's totally my view
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God has a plan for everyone god only know the purpose why she died giving birth to Benjamin god bless her soul❤
I think stealing her father's idols was the worse thing she did
Rachael became pregnant when Jacob prayed for her. God listen to Jacob prayer. Remember God said , "I am God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."
In my opinion, I think it is more on Scientific basis, considering the harsh condition of the dessert, the hardship of travels under scorching heat, the very limited method of child birth delivery, and perhaps Rachel's age. If it is due to a curse, then it should have happened soon enough. But we can never easily tell or nor just judge every events. Everything happened may have been allowed by God for some good reasons only He knew. As others say "In God's time". If we're going to bring out the details point by point, this will go to a very long narrative. But the bottomline of these all is that... God, our heavenly Father, is indeed, and always have been very merciful.
Jesus said "it's not what goes in your mouth but what comes out!"
And also: "The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD". Proverbs 16:33.
"The children shall suffer the sins of the father". This all falls on laban. He was down right nasty and deceitful. To deceive jacob like that was the initial strike against God. Jacob didnt idolize rachel. He worked hard gavd his word and laban used him. Lied to him. Forced him to marry his eldest. Leah is no saint either. She conspired with her father to deceive jacob. More than likely out of jealousy. And labans obsession with rachel was more than likely rooted in some sick fantasy. Leaving laban to watch her suffer giving birth to children that would hate him. His legacy forever ruined.
Jacob was also deceitful . This was him tasting his own medicine. From stealing his brother’s birthright. Someone deceived him too .
@@thulimashinini9012he didn’t steal it, Esau gave it to him for food. And it was obvious food mattered more than that birthright to Esau at that time.
Maybe she died just because she died. We are all going to die
Personally I always thought that - God made a law later that a man must not marry two sisters because of the anguish Leah experienced by being less loved than Rachel. There was a great imbalance, it was unfair to Leigh. Rachel had to go. I don't think her death was from any 'self-fulfilling prophesies' . When she stole the idols, it is good - Laban shouldn't have been fooling around with his idols anyway. She didn't worship them maybe destroyed or sold them. Why else would God answer her prayer?
I love The Lord not because what he does for me , but just because who he is in my life yes I fall short but I Love the Lord. I talk to him , pray to him Worship him because he's all sovereign he's the master of my life .
Jacob was insulted pronounced unknowingly the decree of death over his beloved Rachel.
My cousin had a horrible death. She was a lifelong Christian. And one day she found a lump on her breast. Even though she was a nurse, she decided to pray it away. It was cancer that spread to her brain. She had the most horrible death.
Sorry to hear this. Cancer is the most ugliest disease one can get.
That's why you don't "try" to pray it "away" and understand heath and common sense medicine. Much of these stories don't make sense. Some is bs. True spirituality isn't this.
@@dannylo5875 Praying alleviates the pain for both sufferers and suffering (everyone involved) - for lack of a better word.
For many it gives a sense of relief per se. Although death isn't always pleasant ie. dying "peacefully " in one's sleep is the so-called "goal".
Being ready for The Messiah's Second Coming is the ULTIMATE goal for many if not 'some'.
I’m sorry. I’m not against prayer but I’m also not against listening to medical advice. Matthew was a physician and Jesus never told him to stop caring for the sick. It’s so painful to lose someone you love 😢
@@dittohead7044Luke was a physician
I always feel so sad that Jacob and Rachel could not simply marry- like young people in love...why did this awful deception happen?
Leah also suffered so much.
Only I understand that God always brings good out of failure.
So Leah had 3 sons with failings and a 4th , Judah, who developed character and was judged worthy to be the ancestor of Yeshua the Saviour!
This is one of those mysteries.
Joseph the exemplary son was not the chosen ancestor....Judah the reformed son of the rejected wife was .Can it be to fulful; a man of sorrows and rejected by men
So He came from the rejected and sorrowful wife?
Think about it.
Jakob deceived his twin brother Esau over his birthright.
Laban duped Jakob into seven years [initially] of labour for Rahel. 😉
@@rosalindhershkovitz4390 A very informative idea that leads us to how , broken as we are, GOD still can use us to fulfil his purpose.
@@KittymoreJoy True. Appreciate your comment - on that vein- also Joseph, successful as he was , was essentially a broken person - rejected and almost murdered by his brothers(and bearing the trauma of this) , punished for doing good, forgotten in prison....interesting that he died before his brothers and he was younger than then all except for Benjamin
@@tantalize811so there are consequences for sins....
@@tantalize811consequences for sins
women die in child birth all the time it was very common then, she did wrong but who didn't in this world look at Jackob - it was an event that happend
She was a human being and like many unfortunate women today had birth complications, it suggests a breech given midwife's observation, possibly followed by severe bleeding and haemorrhage.
Nothing spiritual.
She obviously had some gynaecological issues that caused barren essential. Often such women in turn have birth complications. We live in a fallen world. Death and sickness our lot in life. Had she been born today. She may have had a c section, an oxytocin drip and maybe a blood transfusion. And got better and went on her merry way. But her biggest problem, born 4000 years too early!
Wow! I am so well acquainted with this story yet never thought of these possibilities. Interesting!
Nice work and opinions.
I think Rachel loving her father Idols shaped her sad destiny.
She could conceive more children like her sister Leah if she get rid of her loving idolatry.
Leah had faith and trust on Jacob's God (Her words after every child made clear)
Finaly she PRAISED her God (became her God) by Judah.
I never heard anything godly sayings from Rachel,
Jacob worked for 7 years for the sake of Racheal and his father in law betrayed him and got his elder daughter to marry Jacob. That was the Jacob's love that he worked 7 seven more years for Racheal. So Racheal was the love of his life and he was only wanted to got married with her not Leah.... Rachel's death may be due her word and or Jacob's cursed....
Thanks for a extraordinary story , enjoyed, and realized new meaning to Jacobs life.
Leah deceived Jacob. (Not telling him that she is Leah at the wedding). She also should have died as punishment if Rachel indeed died as punishment for deceiving Jacob. (Not telling him that SHE stole the idols)
Laban deceived Jacob. And no doubt Jacob was drunk on his wedding night. Jacob learned a hard lesson since he had also deceived his own father with the help of his mother. Women weren’t really afforded the luxury of speaking out. When Jesus came He was the one who valued women😮
@@dittohead7044 Yes, just like Jacob and his mother deceived Isaac, Laban and Leah deceived Jacob. He reaped what he sowed, I guess.
The power of tongue is real.
Idol worship was and is forbidden but Rachel stole those images from her father Laban. This was wrong and that is why Jacob buried her along the road.
Rachel had to pray for her children for so many years because they were going to be so blessed and do such great things 🙏🙏🙏❤❤
Crafty and deceptive Jacob met his match in Laban.
We all die since Adam,and God knows when only.
Hebrews 9: 27
Jacob did not wait another 7 years to marry Rachel. The agreement was to marry Rachel in one week and then work another 7 years. Read the Bible.
Thank you very much i really liked the bible story very much
I think Benjamin must have been cared for & nurtured by Leah. He was afterall, not just her stepson but also her nephew (her late sister’s son).
Goodness, until the last century, many women lost their lives during childbirth. One might think that God punished Jacob for his deception of his father and Esaue with help of his mother, by taking Rachel, who was dear to him, as one of these tragedies.
God says not to judge for you will be judged likewise. We don't know God's reasons. Maybe He knew she couldn't cope with what happened to Yosef
Such a sad story but I gather it may have God's will. I enjoy this story!! Rachel had a wonderful husband. Rachel went thru alot.
She dead because of the divine intervention but thanks alot, l always learn alot. May God bless you so much
It makes so much more sense now why all Josephs brothers hated him, watching their Mother Leah grow unloved by their father, and then due to his love for Rebecca the first son she gave him was Joseph and his delight showed when he gave him that pretty colored rode eh? hmm, wow Glory Be To God.
What happened to Joepsh was basically Jacobs's doing, even though he was prob unaware...He dint seem to be able to let the favoritism go,
@lilacicecream It's true, both of them favored one son, but failed to love them equally,
@Kittymorejoy- I concur! Definitely could have been a severe hemorrhage and the horrible conditions she probably was surrounded by 💔
Praise JESUS for a praying husband and that your grandmother survived is truly GOD'S Divine intervention!🙌🏼
True I always write GOD like this much respect ❤
I'm with the first theory. Jacob was one of God's chosen. His words have more power than others due to that status. And being that close to God when he cast that curse on the person who stole Laban's pagan idols, it stuck big time. That theory rings true to me because I've had similar happen to me. I was not ready for a child that had been given to me, and was casting all sorts of hatred onto it due to the stress I was feeling. I was scared and frightened...enough where God heard that cry and I miscarried. He then placed another child in my life...after I was ready to have a kid with my husband and now it seems he REALLY wants this kid to be raised righteously. He hasn't been officially baptized and he refuses to grow, even if he's a happy little guy. I'm going to have him baptized and see where things go. God is definitely working in my life. I'm just a stubborn piece of clay that sometimes refuses to cooperate!
I heard a name Rechel in my dream yesterday night and I am here. Thanks for the information.
Only through these legacy we can learn mot to make the same mistakes and rather see God's will us, but in the storm we lose the bigger picture.
You made an ERROR.....Jacob did not wait another 7 years to marry Rachel. After the bridal week time for Leah he was given Rachel AND THEN WORKED those 7 years. ACCURACY IS CRUCIAL FOR GOD'S THINGS PLEASE❤
He made 2 mistakes
None of these polygamous marriages were peaceful. The wives were fighting. E.g hannah and penninah, sarah and hagar, leah and rachel.
The children were also fighting. E.g. joseph and his brothers, ammon and absalom, adonijah and solomon, isaac and ishmael.
The curse that Jacob put on who it was that stole the household gods of Laban his father-in-law, fell upon his wife Rachel...
The Book of Yashar (Book of the Upright) in the Apocrypha Chapter 31:44 And Rachel stole these images (idols) which were her father's, in order that Laban might not know through them where Jacob had gone.
So I would have to surmise that Rachel's son BenYahmin was probably a breech baby.
I do highly recommend getting the books of the Apocrypha as they really fill in the blanks!!
I don't agree
But, don't ever forget that the wives of Jacob envy Rachel cause she was the favorite.
They wouldn't hesitate to throw her in a deep hall like Josef was by his brothers.
It was definitely part of a divine plan!! Amen ❤
What a destiny ❤
Lovely art and very interesting and educational ❤
Praise the Lord!! Amen!! Laban's errors, Rachel's jealous and anger, and his son's disobedience, are not curse; it is the Jacob who has the leading spirit should have rectified it; " He (Jacob) had seek God only during his critical situation.(Gen 35:2) He failed to make his family to obey and disciplined before God...
Every thing is divine plan apotheosis glorious truth❤
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Chassidic & Orthodox Jews have a similar devotion for Rachel the Matriarch, that we Catholic & Orthodox Christians have for the Blessed Virgin Mary.
That's true words spoken in ignorance have fatal power😊
Rachel drew the short stick. God coddled Leah and her whining and con to be the wife of a man who didnt want her. Jacob and his cons, Laben and his cons. Then God finally remembered Rachel (she was never a priorty, small potatoes for later).I've noticed that if your knit with a big heart ( his knitting) and get hurt its your fault for not having boundaries but if you set boundaries your unloving. All manipulations. Wonder what would have happened if Rachel went rogue and sold Leah since she liked to pretend to be someone else. Life at home would probably would have been calmer and a better birthing. Poor Rachel...Everyone in the game won but her.
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I hardly call that winning. And God didn’t coddle Leah. She never had the love of her husband. God loved her as he loves all of us who love and trust Him
Even with all the decipts and lies Rachel is still more renowned. I felt for her, her sin was being more loved by Jacob. Her death was divine
I believe Rachel died because of the words spoken by Jacob to Laban because we've already seen through the Patriarchs' blessings that their words carry weight with YHWH, even if the person is unaware of the situation (Isaac giving Jacob the blessing after being tricked). Also, Jacob we have to remember, was a prophet; we see this in his last words to his sons, where he even prophesies about the coming Messiah.
Rachel is blessed, she hid the idols, it was a second best thing to do than destroy them completely.
For me Rachel died it because maybe she is old when gave birth and no medicine medical that time hospital
Great podcasts. God bless your ministry.
Yes I do believe that her words possibly brought on her death. Our words are important.
Words have power.
Our words affect us more than anybody else
Joseph Peace be upon Him was a prophet of GOD. Mother of a Prophet can only be a pious lady. Fear GOD when mentioning the mothers of the Prophets . Do not say what you do not know.
Rachel is Queen of DIAMONDS REST IN POWER Blessings and HUGS! 👑💜
My Dad named me Rachel … because he loved the name. I believe it was just because God intended her to die during birth , lots of women did during those times . Ironically my brother’s name is Benjamin.
Thank you, Sir, I just want to know about biblical story, 😊😊😊
AMEN 🙏 Praise The Lord
she lied about stealing her fathers idols
Beautiful story from the Bible. ❤
Rachel lied as she got periods ( bleeding) and couldn’t get up when Laban came to check for idols. However, due to bleeding, she died later.
Rachel, by stealing, showed her priority by loving her father's idols ''more'' than GOD.
Joseph cursed the thief - not knowing it was Rachel.
Must know the midrash of this story from a jewish perspective.
Loved the picture narrative
Is there a reason so much of the story was skipped over? Like Jacob accidentally cursing Rachel to die?
Or is it saved for the end rather than the beginning?
Rachel died because of giving birth at an older age.
Rachel was not strong enough because of her age.
Our days are numbered Life and Death is in God's hands.
Hebrews 9:27
It was her fate, she lived and die tragically
God's selection was Leah for Jacob. However, Jacobs's selection was Rachel.
I may say, that GOD can give you a perfect match. Leah is enough; but as person we have this desire that sometimes we forget to listen to HIS message. On the other hand, Jacob has thing to settle with Esau the reason he went to Laban. In the end, Jacob and Rachel were the same if we talk about curse (they are matched as well). Over the top, GOD's love covers all sins. The word of GOD is true. If HE said He will bless you.... He will
I don't think that Rachael was cursed. It was not unusual for women to die in childbirth in ancient times. Perhaps it was a breech birth. There was little medical knowledge back them.
I think the b Bible told the story of what happened and that explains why she died.
Divinity is behind this story!!❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊