This is so good, I've been coming back to see opinions of others, compare my own observations, make decisions what to try to tag for 1fuel event. Thanks for this video!
People can say what they want about some specific points, I respect the work you put into these videos. It is probably the closest we have for a comprehensive comparison on all the specs and classes in one video. I've enjoyed the interview series back then and it's nice to get a sort of update since many things changed since then. Also, to help with Drakania's/ Kuno's problems and to reign in Woosel a bit, I think we need to get another 1 or 2 rounds of Maegu nerfs soon ;)
I've watched a ton of bdo tierlist videos and this is probably the second one that doesnt have a 60/40 like/dislike ratio. Something went really right here
for those who are wondering if they picked right class bcuz of seeing it on the bottom of the list..... every class can do PVE just fine... some are just easier due to less combo requirements, some are easier due to HP regen skills and some are just OP -> and that is temporary. Pick class you like guys!
Yea, choosing a (current) meta class that you don't enjoy just to farm 10% faster is a great way to lose interest in the game. I play corsair, she's a mid grinder, but I never get tired of her so I end up grinding more often instead of lifeskilling.
I can say Zerker is meta for PvP and PvE and I don't think he'll ever see a nerf and will see a buff before getting a nerf despite being the most annoying, fastest, extremely mobile, 3 grabs, HUGE HP, can heal himself by just Roaring, spammable skills, and is the strongest class in the game. lmao
@@boneylockz3967 well… it time has come to shine. Before awakening zerker was bad. After awakening release… zerker was in the middle of the pack but only good in pvp. So basically saying for pve it was mediocre for years. Even ranger is good nowadays pve wise what is a big surprise. So don’t look at classes that are current meta cuz it will change for sure
@@drewnayr1188you’re speaking facts. better to find a class you love instead of the flavor of the month in terms of meta… game will be way more enjoyable that way
Huge effort here in time and coordination. I truly appreciate the effort put into this and want to thank you, as I would never have played all these classes myself so having the class masters weigh in is incredibly helpful. Thanks again.
FINALLY someone who isn't stupidly throwing Succession Lahn as S++++++ Tier. I play Succ Lahn, Succ Tamer, and Succ Maewha and can 1001% say Succ Lahn is around A+ or S- despite how many people go against me saying she is "SOOOO OP and easy and melts everything in end game" meanwhile me maining the 3 and notices Succ Tamer killing Gyfin Underground fast, Succ Maewha killing them extremely fast as long as I can keep my stamina high, and Succ Lahn killing them moderately slowly than the 2 that the purple mob has time to do her 1 shot skill. This Tier List is on point the second I seen classes aren't tiered based on _Popularity_ or _Easiness and Past Achievements of them being OP_
Im a new player and absolutely love DK. I picked for aesthetics and love the way she plays, even if she was F tier I would still play her lol. Gonna use timepiece for Maegu to use as alt as her skills are absolutely beautiful (2nd behind DK) and I heard she has good big AoE’s which I like. DK and Maegu are the 2 classes that has interested me, I never chase meta in MMOs as they always change. Its better to chase classes that you love to play or the way they look, that way you will enjoy the game more
I really appreciate this list, didn't expect you to have the time to ask multiple people per class like I suggested but you pulled through! Great work, and very nice go finally see Witch Awakening get the praise she deserves :)
For woosa awakening, you can be 10/10 boss rush on bosses that don't move much. People sleep on the damage output of the trap flow with it only being a 10 second cooldown. It takes about 3.5 seconds to place the entire flow but does more damage than all of your other skills combined if it all hits. Master the traps, master awakening.
Succ lahn's buff gonna lead to 10% increased pve dps atmost....3% attack speed not gonna stack with z buff anymore after the patch.....a buff with a nerf
@@Quendya Is this post succ ranger buffs? She had some nice dmge buffs for her skills so im thinking her endgame grind prob at least better than 7/10 now.
i really wanna play awaken maegu but the idea of super high effort with low reward has me feeling meh about it, especially since im just in the mid game farming thornwood
HOLY IN DEPTH LIST. 50 HOURS ??? You are a legend man this is absolutely amazing and I recommend this channel to friends who are thinking of getting into the game. Keep it up man thanks for the hard work !!
@@Quendya Fair enough. Well worth the watch, but makes it harder to pick a class to copy my season char progress onto. My main is a Succ Berserker and my season character is a Maegu xD It seems like the list of classes that are similar or better performance is: Archer. And that's prolly several levels harder than my Zerk.
btw why awakening ranger is S- for early game while succession is S? You can literally storm through mobs with W+F (movement skill + aoe damage) and also move from pack to pack with W+RMB. You need to have inf. mana pot of course, so maybe this is why is not S? For new players?
100% agree with this my only draw back i have with so many nerfs buffs and changes to classes i would tell the new players to pick who u enjoy the game with and who u have fun with dont go for meta because its the flavor of the month only to hate it while u grind. Just be u lesrn your class and u will be good
nowadays, basically every class is good, the game is in his peak of balancement, but people still obsessed with tier list instead of playing whatever they like
I said that when ranger were farming witch earrings twice as fast as my zerker and having a ranger too. Ranger stayed lvl52, zerker retired years latern at 62 and now im grinding towards 62 on a new zerker.
damn i picked drakania as my first class in BDO and i just awakaned her but seeing her so low in tier list makes me wonder if i made a huge mistake :/ i really like the style of her so thats why i picked her
If you enjoy playing her dont worry you made a good choice. Dont worry about progressing fast focus on enjoying the journey. If you hate the gameplay you wont enjoy the game itself so a strong class you hate means you probably wont want to play. I have been a musa main since his release even when he was dogshit I played him and had fun.
The only thing that matters is if you enjoy a class man. Meta gaming is for end-game sweating and isn't all that big of a difference. Besides, Drak in PvP rn is still pretty damn solid
Bro who cares about pve rankings. This game is a pvp game. That is all that matters. If ur grind speed is that slow it bothers you just tag to a pve grinder meta class
For Musa PVE, after the buffs i want to say that at end game Awakened musa got buffed and is pulling more trash in all end game spots. Its hitting up to 21k Trash at Hexe, and 4k + at trolls. Hes also one of the best classes at SE towers. With him being better at trolls he's probably outputting more dps at oluns as well. The only area where succ would be dominant is Crypt due to the accuracy check at that spot
Колдунью в пробуде на ПТСе апнули еще вроде бы. Жду когда поставят на основной сервер, пощупать хочу. А так же надо будет Волшебницу в пробуде проверить, давно ей не играл.
I mean the comments in the vid explain to you why they chose those numbers... Her movement and AOE are pretty good, better than a lot of classes. If her whale ever gets a cdr buff she will be hella strong.
@@drewnayr1188 Awakening does not have a good AOE, especially for PvE, that being one of the things that are the main drawback of the class while grinding, most of your shots will not hit entire pack of mobs and the one skill that does have good AOE (anchor) has longer CD and cast time with not so much rewarding damage. Rest of the damage comes mainly from melee unprotected skills (and shift Z rabam) which all have quite low range even compared to other melee classes. And overall it was rated higher than awakening musa which is literally two tiers above corsair in terms of grind speed if you look at actual trash/hr data... And not to even mention she's in the same tier as succ maegu, that's just a huge meme even after maegu nerfs. Also using whales in awakening in pve is self griefing... long cast no damage
Anyone who says awk wiz pve at endgame is “very-easy” isn’t really trying or doesnt grind well. For example, pulling 30k+ trash/hr at Jade Forest with ys+agris. While its not better than the other busted ass new classes that has tons of movement, its still pushing the limits of awk wiz. Ive done this myself and it isn’t “low apm” if you’re chaining skills correctly. Awk wiz is and has always been a class with a low skill floor and very high skill ceiling. I dont think Ive ever even seen Huntler or Horsey grind, always pvp montages.
DK is my main, but I still can't decide who's gonna be my tag (currently Shai for Oluns grinding, but once I'm done with Oluns I'm going to tag my second "main"). I'm stuck between Archer, Musa, Woosa, or Maegu.
I agree with this list for the most part, but as a 749gs succ Maegu player i can honestly say she is still S tier in end game, pulling 20-20.5k on Hexe with draughts and Quint i pull 3.8k-3.9k which is really high for just running draughts, with Elixirs i pull around 23k on Hexe and 4.2-4.3k on Quint, the people on reddit and ingame calling it a dead class after the nerfs are delusional, she is still super strong and the nerfs was necessary, the nerf that is noticeble the most is the evasion nerf if you run spots like Crypts, but i would not say she is S-, its just my personal opinion tho so yeah take it for what it is (y)
@@Nutritional-Yeastlet the man play what he wants to encouraging everyone to fking meta chase I swear that’s all you people care about not everything has to be busted like the meta succ woosa etc 💀
i completely disagree with where awak guardian is. as someone who has almost 600 days logged on her i absolutely disagree. she should be at least A+ or higher.
Not to be that guy but succession warrior still by a small margin better in PvE which I love how balanced both specs to each other one defense the other offense. But it does bother me to trust the opinions of of the warriors you showed when they never touched succession warrior once except Gold. I recommend trying to reach out to bicepmusprime. That guy like PvE king when it comes to warrior and plays both specs but ether way good tier list
@@fenswann he was on succession for quite a long time and I do main succession warrior and I am hype for the fixes in the gaps that can now be protected cancelling and the AP scars buff
valk succ Easy to learn, yes, but it is really difficult to master. It has many more abilities and possible combos that make it great and fun, in addition to having many skills with coverage. the Awak looks easy at first, but when climbing in the difficulty of spots it is necessary to learn the other abilities and cooldowns well, good speed and many super armors, I feel that the succ valkyrie is much better with world bosses than her awak version this class has been my main class for 5 years♥ and not just a reroll because of the buff "rmb +space" got a resistant and fun class to play in both instances :´)
I tried it for like 1 hour and quit. Her C skills on top of everything else made it feel like I needed 3 hands to use it efficiently. It was one of the worst input combinations I ever felt.
Hey. I'm really wondering, why you said, awa warrior is hard and f.e. succ tamer medium to learn? My friend play tamer and he needs a break after 2 hrs of grinding 😮 i played warri now almost a year and think he's the second easiest and beginner friendliest class after gardian. And you need 3 to 4 skills in medium mob areas. So i really don't know, why your 'classmasters' but him into hard 🫢
I really wonder what kind of abilities are being tested for Black Shrine tier list. I tried Awak Mystic, Succ Nova and Awak Valk. The score from this list seems a bit off. For example, I can easily make into 5 mins on Songakshi on succ Nova while awak mystic cost me 3 hours for trying and not even be able to finish. The same goes to Bari and Bammbo legion. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I truly wonder what factors are being considered for the score.
I didn't like the ninja shunkko's comment, the awak is easier to learn simple combos for low game and in pvp it is much easier to keep yourself protected I think he focused on teaching someone who is going to play end game.
I like how mid game is where i'm not even there with my main class lmao. Cause i'm just a like 250 AP or so. Using old boss gear from Tuvala conversion, no nouver (kutum there), accessories are just PEN capotia or PEN tuvala. Sooooo.. well help? xD
Too one sided a people were asked, again. Streamers do not represent the opinion of the community and often have their own agendas that are far from the truth and are often intend on leading Pearl Abyss and the community astray. A realistic result would be to actually send these polls to all class discords, not just a select few abbrevations, since some class discords have more than 1, and have the entire community vote and then maybe factor out the extreme outliers. (Garmoth does that by removing the bottom few % and top few % of postings for a realistic average) So someone that would wrongfully write that Succ Sorc is 1/10 endgame pve, would be filtered out. I agree with others though; this is better and closer to the truth than the previous tier list.
Man Drakania's current state right now made me sad. Of all the combat gameplay she was the most appealing for me. I wish she gets buffed soon. I guess it's either Lahn or Guardian for my first character then. Which of the two is more recommend for a newbie?
Go for Drakania bro trust me, starting with a class that's fun for you will make the game 10 times more fun , all classes are good so just pick your playstyle
You are a GODDAMN legend and a lifesaver, my man. I will forever be grateful for the amazing content you put out constantly. When do you plan to release the PvP tier list?
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Is orc camp mid or end game ?
mid @@Gearscore_Diff
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Why you no read?
Hi there, i hope all good!, could you let me know about wizard awk and musa awk? which one would be better in Rhutums or Gyffin underground?
This is so good, I've been coming back to see opinions of others, compare my own observations, make decisions what to try to tag for 1fuel event. Thanks for this video!
Thanks!
Way better than old PVE tierlist imo
The one with sage succ S lol. That was a total joke.
@@ArantyrDarkhand did you grind hexe with succ sage? how much trash loot/h did you get???
@@luq7657 With Succ theres no grind. Only time wasted... with awakening its very bad loot per hour.
@@ArantyrDarkhand Okay, so how much loot/h you get?
Bro, the quality of your videos, your voice, your easy explanation on every video...HOLY!!! Well done dude, well done.
thanks to bdo community have you and with these all information we can experiance better gameplay.
People can say what they want about some specific points, I respect the work you put into these videos. It is probably the closest we have for a comprehensive comparison on all the specs and classes in one video. I've enjoyed the interview series back then and it's nice to get a sort of update since many things changed since then.
Also, to help with Drakania's/ Kuno's problems and to reign in Woosel a bit, I think we need to get another 1 or 2 rounds of Maegu nerfs soon ;)
I've watched a ton of bdo tierlist videos and this is probably the second one that doesnt have a 60/40 like/dislike ratio.
Something went really right here
Is new tierlist video soon ? It would be great ^^
This is by far the most thoughtful tier list I've seen for this game.
As a returning player it was very useful to pick my class, thank you.
First time giving bdo a proper go, chose maegu because her awakening skills just look so beautiful
for those who are wondering if they picked right class bcuz of seeing it on the bottom of the list..... every class can do PVE just fine... some are just easier due to less combo requirements, some are easier due to HP regen skills and some are just OP -> and that is temporary. Pick class you like guys!
Yea, choosing a (current) meta class that you don't enjoy just to farm 10% faster is a great way to lose interest in the game.
I play corsair, she's a mid grinder, but I never get tired of her so I end up grinding more often instead of lifeskilling.
I can say Zerker is meta for PvP and PvE and I don't think he'll ever see a nerf and will see a buff before getting a nerf despite being the most annoying, fastest, extremely mobile, 3 grabs, HUGE HP, can heal himself by just Roaring, spammable skills, and is the strongest class in the game. lmao
@@boneylockz3967 well… it time has come to shine. Before awakening zerker was bad. After awakening release… zerker was in the middle of the pack but only good in pvp. So basically saying for pve it was mediocre for years. Even ranger is good nowadays pve wise what is a big surprise. So don’t look at classes that are current meta cuz it will change for sure
@@drewnayr1188you’re speaking facts. better to find a class you love instead of the flavor of the month in terms of meta… game will be way more enjoyable that way
@@drewnayr118810% is fine :p problem starts when its 30-40%+
Huge effort here in time and coordination. I truly appreciate the effort put into this and want to thank you, as I would never have played all these classes myself so having the class masters weigh in is incredibly helpful. Thanks again.
Almost all sea witch skills are protected, you have agro with the red orb, and super easy to play compared with other classes.
Nice info brother
thank you for the hardwork and interview
FINALLY someone who isn't stupidly throwing Succession Lahn as S++++++ Tier. I play Succ Lahn, Succ Tamer, and Succ Maewha and can 1001% say Succ Lahn is around A+ or S- despite how many people go against me saying she is "SOOOO OP and easy and melts everything in end game" meanwhile me maining the 3 and notices Succ Tamer killing Gyfin Underground fast, Succ Maewha killing them extremely fast as long as I can keep my stamina high, and Succ Lahn killing them moderately slowly than the 2 that the purple mob has time to do her 1 shot skill. This Tier List is on point the second I seen classes aren't tiered based on _Popularity_ or _Easiness and Past Achievements of them being OP_
Im a new player and absolutely love DK. I picked for aesthetics and love the way she plays, even if she was F tier I would still play her lol. Gonna use timepiece for Maegu to use as alt as her skills are absolutely beautiful (2nd behind DK) and I heard she has good big AoE’s which I like.
DK and Maegu are the 2 classes that has interested me, I never chase meta in MMOs as they always change. Its better to chase classes that you love to play or the way they look, that way you will enjoy the game more
Because of the hard work and how you explain everything in your video, I did sub to your channel.
Great job mate 👏👍
I really appreciate this list, didn't expect you to have the time to ask multiple people per class like I suggested but you pulled through! Great work, and very nice go finally see Witch Awakening get the praise she deserves :)
great stuff brother! amazing work!
Only creator in this circle that I’ll actually check out the tier list lol. Great job once again man.
For woosa awakening, you can be 10/10 boss rush on bosses that don't move much. People sleep on the damage output of the trap flow with it only being a 10 second cooldown. It takes about 3.5 seconds to place the entire flow but does more damage than all of your other skills combined if it all hits. Master the traps, master awakening.
Hmm ok thanks :)
Bro chill let everyone sleep on her we don't need PA realizing this!!!
This is how a tier list should be done; amazing
Great video as always, glad to have been apart of this one 🙌
With how often PA does the class balance these days, you can update this list weekly or bi-weekly. For example, Lahn is getting big buffs next patch.
I am uploading global lab notes every week. people can check them if they want they can decide if any class get buff or nerf :)
Where did you see which class will be buffed next week?
Succ lahn's buff gonna lead to 10% increased pve dps atmost....3% attack speed not gonna stack with z buff anymore after the patch.....a buff with a nerf
@@Quendya Is this post succ ranger buffs? She had some nice dmge buffs for her skills so im thinking her endgame grind prob at least better than 7/10 now.
@@Dr.Thanatoswhere u read that z buff dont stack with 3 % attack speed buff?it just replaced from q to lmb 15% attack speed buff.
This video i waiting for, GG
I came here because my dyslexic-self read "Ultimate Terorist" and not "Tierlist". Came for memes, left with education
Thank you for this video, is great to have this kind of content
Striker tips were really useful.
i really wanna play awaken maegu but the idea of super high effort with low reward has me feeling meh about it, especially since im just in the mid game farming thornwood
Drakania C tier makes me sad:( but true
Thanks! Good stuff.
Asking PAWEL about nova? This tier list is BASED
Truth
Awake nova not s+ only cuz it breaks hands.
I think end game best 3 class (pve)
S + Lahn Succ
S+ Berserk Succ
S++ Guard Succ
HOLY IN DEPTH LIST. 50 HOURS ??? You are a legend man this is absolutely amazing and I recommend this channel to friends who are thinking of getting into the game. Keep it up man thanks for the hard work !!
Very nice video . Thx . At the end slide with all classes together for end game spot, i think succ hash with 9.5 should be at S.
An updated PvP tier list might also be in order
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This is perfect list! Big thanks!
This is an incredibly informative video, but it took me an hour to watch! xD
It took me 70 hours to prepare it :)
@@Quendya Fair enough. Well worth the watch, but makes it harder to pick a class to copy my season char progress onto. My main is a Succ Berserker and my season character is a Maegu xD It seems like the list of classes that are similar or better performance is: Archer. And that's prolly several levels harder than my Zerk.
Archer is very hard. but if you can handle him, he is one of the best for pvp and pve. overall rating is quite big.@@Umrtvovacz
Can you do Nov 2023 post buff class PVE tier list?
Yes please
+1 i need this for my new season char, hope awk drakania got more better
Hi ! Kuno succ or Ninja Awak for pve/pvp content ? Maybe awake warrior ?
Yine emek kokan bir çalışma olmuş teşekkürler
wow so good, i love drak in succ
didnt expect 5\10 ratings tho lol
btw why awakening ranger is S- for early game while succession is S? You can literally storm through mobs with W+F (movement skill + aoe damage) and also move from pack to pack with W+RMB. You need to have inf. mana pot of course, so maybe this is why is not S? For new players?
100% agree with this my only draw back i have with so many nerfs buffs and changes to classes i would tell the new players to pick who u enjoy the game with and who u have fun with dont go for meta because its the flavor of the month only to hate it while u grind. Just be u lesrn your class and u will be good
More of less what I'm trying to say is. Better dosent allways me best for you❤
i feel like Awakening in generel needs to get buffed, succesion mostly outclass awakening in every class
With the musa buff incoming, where do you estimate he would end for low/mid/high spots?
He will be very good
Hello. Is orcs considered a mid spot or a high end spot? Sorry if i missed it anywhere in the video, i did try to look closely.
mid
Cheers!@@Quendya
main witch awak and linked a maegu to grind pots with what i think is just orange red witch 2023 release
Damn its been awhile since i last saw a dog tier list but here it is.
Hi ! Kuno succ or Ninja Awak for pve/pvp content ?
yeah boi. My girl dark knight is poppin.
nowadays, basically every class is good, the game is in his peak of balancement, but people still obsessed with tier list instead of playing whatever they like
Specify what GS is early, mid, and endgame.
Awesome tier list, really appreciate all the work you put in!
S.a hocam Awake Guardiyana buff geldikten sonra mı geçerli yoksa buff öncesi mi yapıldı.
Viewing that as a noob who started with Drakania is sadge :(
But definitely appreciate the effort!
I will and forever be Succ Drakania main, no matter how dogsh*t she is at PVE.
Np, lahns gonna get some more buffs upcoming patch.
I said that when ranger were farming witch earrings twice as fast as my zerker and having a ranger too. Ranger stayed lvl52, zerker retired years latern at 62 and now im grinding towards 62 on a new zerker.
New player here. She is just so fun to play. Fuck what they say.
Is she really that bad? I love her so :’)
I hope i am you...
damn i picked drakania as my first class in BDO and i just awakaned her but seeing her so low in tier list makes me wonder if i made a huge mistake :/ i really like the style of her so thats why i picked her
just play what u like ignore tier list but if u want play meta just tag meta class and grind on tagged
If you enjoy playing her dont worry you made a good choice. Dont worry about progressing fast focus on enjoying the journey. If you hate the gameplay you wont enjoy the game itself so a strong class you hate means you probably wont want to play. I have been a musa main since his release even when he was dogshit I played him and had fun.
The only thing that matters is if you enjoy a class man. Meta gaming is for end-game sweating and isn't all that big of a difference. Besides, Drak in PvP rn is still pretty damn solid
bro u good. still have a loooooooong way to go before you hit end game. might as well have fun on the journey.
Bro who cares about pve rankings. This game is a pvp game. That is all that matters. If ur grind speed is that slow it bothers you just tag to a pve grinder meta class
For Musa PVE, after the buffs i want to say that at end game Awakened musa got buffed and is pulling more trash in all end game spots. Its hitting up to 21k Trash at Hexe, and 4k + at trolls. Hes also one of the best classes at SE towers. With him being better at trolls he's probably outputting more dps at oluns as well. The only area where succ would be dominant is Crypt due to the accuracy check at that spot
Колдунью в пробуде на ПТСе апнули еще вроде бы. Жду когда поставят на основной сервер, пощупать хочу. А так же надо будет Волшебницу в пробуде проверить, давно ей не играл.
No idea what's everyone smokin' to put awk corsair in S- and 8/10, but I want some.
I mean the comments in the vid explain to you why they chose those numbers...
Her movement and AOE are pretty good, better than a lot of classes. If her whale ever gets a cdr buff she will be hella strong.
@@drewnayr1188 Awakening does not have a good AOE, especially for PvE, that being one of the things that are the main drawback of the class while grinding, most of your shots will not hit entire pack of mobs and the one skill that does have good AOE (anchor) has longer CD and cast time with not so much rewarding damage. Rest of the damage comes mainly from melee unprotected skills (and shift Z rabam) which all have quite low range even compared to other melee classes. And overall it was rated higher than awakening musa which is literally two tiers above corsair in terms of grind speed if you look at actual trash/hr data... And not to even mention she's in the same tier as succ maegu, that's just a huge meme even after maegu nerfs.
Also using whales in awakening in pve is self griefing... long cast no damage
i was there was an updated succ tamer guide around
Anyone who says awk wiz pve at endgame is “very-easy” isn’t really trying or doesnt grind well.
For example, pulling 30k+ trash/hr at Jade Forest with ys+agris. While its not better than the other busted ass new classes that has tons of movement, its still pushing the limits of awk wiz. Ive done this myself and it isn’t “low apm” if you’re chaining skills correctly.
Awk wiz is and has always been a class with a low skill floor and very high skill ceiling.
I dont think Ive ever even seen Huntler or Horsey grind, always pvp montages.
DK is my main, but I still can't decide who's gonna be my tag (currently Shai for Oluns grinding, but once I'm done with Oluns I'm going to tag my second "main"). I'm stuck between Archer, Musa, Woosa, or Maegu.
As a DK main myself im gonna go for Maegu for timepiece. Big AoE’s and beautiful skills
@@Rawzix Same here. DK Main and Maegu is tagged.
new player here, hesitating betwen guardian and DK. Your thoughts ?
I agree with this list for the most part, but as a 749gs succ Maegu player i can honestly say she is still S tier in end game, pulling 20-20.5k on Hexe with draughts and Quint i pull 3.8k-3.9k which is really high for just running draughts, with Elixirs i pull around 23k on Hexe and 4.2-4.3k on Quint, the people on reddit and ingame calling it a dead class after the nerfs are delusional, she is still super strong and the nerfs was necessary, the nerf that is noticeble the most is the evasion nerf if you run spots like Crypts, but i would not say she is S-, its just my personal opinion tho so yeah take it for what it is (y)
Ninja Awakeneing below succ? What?
Awakening with Ninja is literally the same as succ, but with additional options lol.
Nice list overall 👍
What do you mean by boss blitz? I came back to the game after 2 years and I'm trying to learn some things in between.
New 10 bosses on new region
I'm returning and learning Awk Maegu. I'm happy with A+
@@Nutritional-Yeast no thank you
@@Nutritional-Yeastlet the man play what he wants to encouraging everyone to fking meta chase I swear that’s all you people care about not everything has to be busted like the meta succ woosa etc 💀
Any thoughts on the awak striker buffs?
Very good :)
i completely disagree with where awak guardian is. as someone who has almost 600 days logged on her i absolutely disagree. she should be at least A+ or higher.
I'm playing Maegu level 16 lol. New player. But I'm loving my skills right now so sticking with sucession as I'm also more of a PvE player
Pretty good for you. Keep play maegu
Not to be that guy but succession warrior still by a small margin better in PvE which I love how balanced both specs to each other one defense the other offense. But it does bother me to trust the opinions of of the warriors you showed when they never touched succession warrior once except Gold. I recommend trying to reach out to bicepmusprime. That guy like PvE king when it comes to warrior and plays both specs but ether way good tier list
Big prime fan and even he is predominantly AWK. Awk just has that style haha! Said he might try it succ again with the dash change. Same here.
@@fenswann he was on succession for quite a long time and I do main succession warrior and I am hype for the fixes in the gaps that can now be protected cancelling and the AP scars buff
valk succ Easy to learn, yes, but it is really difficult to master. It has many more abilities and possible combos that make it great and fun, in addition to having many skills with coverage. the Awak looks easy at first, but when climbing in the difficulty of spots it is necessary to learn the other abilities and cooldowns well, good speed and many super armors, I feel that the succ valkyrie is much better with world bosses than her awak version
this class has been my main class for 5 years♥ and not just a reroll because of the buff "rmb +space" got
a resistant and fun class to play in both instances :´)
I tried it for like 1 hour and quit. Her C skills on top of everything else made it feel like I needed 3 hands to use it efficiently. It was one of the worst input combinations I ever felt.
Hey. I'm really wondering, why you said, awa warrior is hard and f.e. succ tamer medium to learn? My friend play tamer and he needs a break after 2 hrs of grinding 😮 i played warri now almost a year and think he's the second easiest and beginner friendliest class after gardian. And you need 3 to 4 skills in medium mob areas. So i really don't know, why your 'classmasters' but him into hard 🫢
Is Drakania going to get a PVE buff soon?
Hopefully :)
hi what's the name of the music starting from 3:50?
I really wonder what kind of abilities are being tested for Black Shrine tier list. I tried Awak Mystic, Succ Nova and Awak Valk. The score from this list seems a bit off. For example, I can easily make into 5 mins on Songakshi on succ Nova while awak mystic cost me 3 hours for trying and not even be able to finish. The same goes to Bari and Bammbo legion. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I truly wonder what factors are being considered for the score.
I didn't like the ninja shunkko's comment, the awak is easier to learn simple combos for low game and in pvp it is much easier to keep yourself protected I think he focused on teaching someone who is going to play end game.
I like how mid game is where i'm not even there with my main class lmao. Cause i'm just a like 250 AP or so. Using old boss gear from Tuvala conversion, no nouver (kutum there), accessories are just PEN capotia or PEN tuvala. Sooooo.. well
help? xD
Too one sided a people were asked, again. Streamers do not represent the opinion of the community and often have their own agendas that are far from the truth and are often intend on leading Pearl Abyss and the community astray. A realistic result would be to actually send these polls to all class discords, not just a select few abbrevations, since some class discords have more than 1, and have the entire community vote and then maybe factor out the extreme outliers. (Garmoth does that by removing the bottom few % and top few % of postings for a realistic average) So someone that would wrongfully write that Succ Sorc is 1/10 endgame pve, would be filtered out.
I agree with others though; this is better and closer to the truth than the previous tier list.
almost sounds like i need to do another tier list some time soon lmao
@@Mo96224 It appears indeed so, Mo. :)
Its woul be very helpfull if you add what does early mid and late game means. What does its spots or your ap/dp?
I was wondering exactly the same!
Hiiii first comment !!! 😅😊
You re first YEP :)
Man Drakania's current state right now made me sad.
Of all the combat gameplay she was the most appealing for me. I wish she gets buffed soon.
I guess it's either Lahn or Guardian for my first character then.
Which of the two is more recommend for a newbie?
Go for Drakania bro trust me, starting with a class that's fun for you will make the game 10 times more fun , all classes are good so just pick your playstyle
@@osama9501”all classes are good” idk who told you that
@@ItsSwitchXD i played with them and they all were fine
@@osama9501 so drak making 800mil at hexe compared to woosa making 1bil+ at the same spot is “fine” to you?
hey I just started the game I was wondering if I should go succession berserker or succession woosa
Play what you want but if those are you 2 favorite class I would go succ zerk because it’s way better early game and also way more fun movement
Thanks for the video,
Is drakania really that skill intensive, all 80+ skill cancels/flows??????
ua-cam.com/video/E-xkquQZh04/v-deo.html Watch this pls :)
Yes, Succ Drakania suc )
Need big rework!
Worked so hard to get my succ wizard to end game, then I find out it does horrible at hexe and shit accuracy at crypt
which class is the most fun for you
Drakania . But she is bad for pve.
Nice :)
You are a GODDAMN legend and a lifesaver, my man. I will forever be grateful for the amazing content you put out constantly. When do you plan to release the PvP tier list?
In a month maybe
Archer is breaking numbers in pve but still só hard 😢
Best tier list in the whole community.
I would like to see APM rate too...
Pvp tier list when?
Do you think Woosa will get nerfed soon?
awk sage is super easy to grind on should be easy and higher on the list tbh succ nova also should not be so low it’s insanely easy
Easy has nothing to do with anything
@@lespretend it’s literally in the tierlist easy plus high burst kills packs fast therefore ez
Succ woosaya kesinlikle iyi davranilmis. Earlyde 3/10 falan bandı olmalıydı, pot spotu deneyin bence tekrar
tamam deneyeceğim söz :D
@@Quendya valla deli etti beni ya :D miruda orkta falan müthiş ama earlyde cidden 2 3/10 ben ps oyuncusuyum. Awa dkya geçeceğim early mid için sen ne diyorsun