I like this knot fine but if you slow it down it's identical to the Highwayman's Hitch but tied half upside down & a half twist is added when you finish the bow. The UNDER pass version is in fact the Highwayman's Hitch. I think that one twist weakens the cinch which might be why it slips on you. So funny how there are hundreds of working knots for similar jobs & yet they are all just variations on 4 or 5 total knots. Loops & Hitches & Bends oh my.
You must be a very poor man, probably two of the most expensive things to be doing, as both take so much money to maintain!! 😉 Thanks again for taking the time to have a chat with me.
a strange overlap of professions... I'm the only cowboy sailor I've ever met! lol (at least since Selleck played Rafe in Crossfire Trail) It is secure, but if put under strain can be hard to undo... Very similar in form and function to a "getaway hitch" the knot you are tying I learned as the "Thief's hitch" and I use it for my horse and my fender alike...
@@KnottingKnots Some of us work as sailors and the income can be spent on a horse haha but you're right a horse eats money never mind a boat, love the channel mate you have thought me loads, much love from Ireland!
Love this knot. Great weight bearing knot. I have used it in the middle of the rope and lowered items to the ground as much as 50 ' below with the standing end. then pull the working end to release and pull up your rope.
Use it to stow away paint buckets, one guy down in the stowing space and me up on deck lowering them down. As long as the working end doesn't snag it's brilliant.
I was taught this knot as a kid, and was told it was called a Highwayman's hitch - with a story about it being a quick release for a horse when they wanted to make a run for it
Just stumbled on this video by coincidence, but I really like your channel. ;) Sailor here. I don't know how or from who I learned this knot, but it's the only knot I use and instruct for tying up fenders to the lifelines, while preparing to dock. It's secure because of the weight of the fender on the standing end, while the quick release on the working end enables a quick repositioning and secure it back again really fast.
The bowline knot is used famously at the fire department. But after captain figured out the "painters knot" as you call it. He fell in love. The security makes it handy for hauling small objects upwards towards it be a roof or balcony. and the quick release makes it ideal for fast paced action. Love this knot. It's easy 😊
Fantastic, I love it when someone tells a story of a knot used in anger. I have pinned your post for others to see. I take it then you are more a practical knotter than a decorative one?
Johnny Debt yes sir. I use them in more needed situations as I mentioned before, the department, than just to do it lol. Nothing against that of course 😊
A slipped bowline is as secure and does not constrict, (and if you can only remember one knot in the heat of the moment, then it should be the bowline.) Tie a painter-hitch around a person to raise/lower them and you can crush the air out of their lungs.
Used it to tie up a horse but were it is really handy is tying up my fishing boat. You can use as long of a rope as you want. I tie up the boat tight and when I want to get in my boat I take the working end with me. These days it takes me a while to get in the boat. I get settled and pull on the working end and I'm a float. The knot has never failed me yet with a horse or a boat. Sometimes the post I tie it too fails but that's not the knots fault. Thank you very much for your excellent videos. Very well explained.
As a merchant mariner I used this hitch many times on ships when working aloft or down in tanks and cargo holds lowering tools, paint or buckets of grease. The hitch needs to be cinched up tight and the final locking bight should be left long. And most importantly the working end "or trip line" has to be long enough to reach wherever your lowering to, and care was taken to let it run free and not snag on anything.
I love to hear real life stories of when knots were used in anger. I was a marine engineer and spent many an hour in fuel tanks. The worst job I ever had was to preserve a tank by coating it with grease. From your username, I take it you are a diver?
Cheers mate, very kind of you to say. The only trouble is keeping people interested all the time. Maybe I ought to just do Ashley Book of Knots in the order that he did them. Then if there are any complaints about repetition I can blame him. Got any photos of your work?
Very nice again. Thank you. I use this one as a quick utility knot for hanging stuff up. Very handy as you say. It's not very stable, if you pull hard on the stand it will capsize into something more stable but not a tumble hitch anymore. If, as you suggest, you pass the working end through the loop to secure it, you can still tumble it if you grab the bight of the working end.
It is used by cowboys to tie horses to posts, tree branches etc. Some horses learn to pull on the loose end a free themselves. I also use it to tie the boat to a platform (oil rig) offshore. Easy to untie during emergencies. I use it all the time.
Hell Travis, thanks for popping over and leaving a comment. In fact, I am quite glad that you mentioned kayak could you take a look at this video and tell me if I am correct? ua-cam.com/video/f_jOhYD64Ko/v-deo.html
Yes! My father used this knot all the time securing anything to a roof rack. Mr. Whenever binding a roll ie tents or tarps. Much better than a shoelace box.
I use it all the time to tie up my horse. I like the way it comes free. So many knots used to tie up horses put the rope through the ring etc. They do not come free as easily.
I haven't seen that knot for over thirty years. I grew up on a ranch. We had horses that occasionally needed tied up for saddling, shoeing, or vet visits.
Great video. This knot is very useful but you must test it’s hold with a given type of rope and anchor point, as it works more securely in certain combinations than in others. I agree with others who do not rely on this knot for dynamic load situations.
Yes, this is a rather lovely knot and very popular! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
I just learned a highwayman's hitch and noticed a big difference between these two: this painter's hitch one requires some dressing up, checking it's tight all over, and pulling the standing end makes it twist and turn in a way I don't like (with a string/rope that's not very good for pulling things thight through from just the end). This one sort of wants to lean into an angle. The highwayman's hitch on the other hand gets tight just by pulling the standing end and feels very secure when you yank it. I also liked tying the highwayman's hitch way, way more with that annoying piece of rope/string. They are very similar knots however, the only different in tying them up to my eye is the orientation of the ropes. The underhand version of painter's hitch doesn't keep the standing end parallel and the working bight goes through the other side of the loop as a result. This little change seems to make the highwayman's hitch sit much more nicely against the bar and tighten more willingly.
I tried tying this on a rail with some slippery 3/8" nylon rope. I found that I could give several sharp tugs in different directions and could undo this knot quite easily, even if I put a good long loop in the final step with the working end. My conclusion is that it would be a good knot for fairly static loads, (hauling buckets, or gear upwards) but I would never trust it for a moving load like a boat, or an animal.
It would appear that others who have commented here and elsewhere, suggest that this knot is better with a natural fibre cord. Cheers for taking the time to comment and also report your results here. I have now pinned your post for others to see also.
I agree. I would not use it for an unattended boat. It relies on the rope itself being quite grippy (e.g. natural fibres) and being ted round something that isn't too slippery, and then not being subject to lots of variable forces. It is a useful knot within these constraints, and great fun.
I typically use a bowline for towing, since most boats have cleats the painter hitch has mostly fallen out of use in my part of the US. Asked my horse - friendly people and they use a different method because smart horses (and smart dogs too) will figure out how to untie themselves unless this knot is locked. So I suppose this one will fade away like the slippery bowline did with campers. Curious squirrels appear to be the issue with that one, although raccoons can also be the issue. Usually noted as your tarp falls down and a very surprised squirrel is spotted scampering away from the end of your ridgeline that suddenly came undone...
Very nice and easy knot...check out the Siberian Hitch too, is very quick and just as easy to untie. This one requires a couple of tucking of the loops or bytes..in the Siberian Hitch its a bit faster.
I really think passing the working end through the hole and cinching it down makes it a somewhat reliable knot. And maybe instead of right across the front, turn the end around the back and through the hole. I like it. Good video.
Being raised a cowboy & horse trainer since the 50's this is the knot most used to tie horses. Colts can get rank, through fits, others can spook & get in trouble & you can release them quickly. We always used bowline around the neck even w/ a halter on those unschooled type of horses as halters will break. On the other hand dinks that nibble can untie themselves. For the nibblers add more bites/loops as in a daisy chain. REPLY
Absolutely superb!! Thank you so much for sharing real life situations involving knotting. Also interesting to hear about the Bowline. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
I have found that a great number of knots are known by different names from region to region and then even more when it comes to other countries. I am sure that you find that also with some of your everyday stuff too?
Great demonstration! This knot is very helpful! So, on video U tied two schemes with a small difference, I usually use the last one. So cool, cause it quick-release)
@@benveach9689 Johnny has the best vids and he's entertaining. I make a folder on UA-cam of saved videos called Favorite Knots, and save the vids and knots I like best to that folder. Handy because you always have your phone with you, Not a Knot book. Lol no pun intended. I don't use knots much but enjoy learning new things, at 75 yrs old. I try to remember one that is most versatile to me, and maybe one more at the most. My all time favorite from Johnny is the Adjustable hitch knot. I use this for over 90% of situations. My next favorite is the Painter's Hitch. I sometimes use both in combination for a particular task. Also, with each knot there are maybe 3 or 4 key elements that are key to tying a good knot. Learn these elements and it will make your life easier.
Canoeing and the like I use it a lot. Fairly secure for tying on to the bank or for when you are towing a tired paddler. Mainly in both cases I use it as it is quick to release. This is important when towing a tired paddler. Particularly useful in a Kayaking where I end up towing more often. I have never had it slip on me but the rope does make a difference. And you can generally tell once you have tied it with a tug if it is good enough or not. I use it all the time for temporary holding. Even use it for bags and nets when scuba diving. But not for things like tying down a load on a trailer etc.. only something you are going to generally be able to monitor.
Highwayman’s hitch, aka: Bank Robber’s hitch. I’ve never used a horse to rob a bank, so I can’t attest to that. Seems likely thought. I have used it to tie off a skiff. It’s awesome for that. It can be used to leave your skiff on your mooring or to tow behind your other vessel. When the hitch is properly dressed it tightens as the standing part takes a strain. It is therefore very reliable. Yet it releases quickly and cleanly with a good tug on the tag end no matter how much strain it has endured.
interesting knott i put a toggle were quick release loop pull the same quick release tighten her. on the main line i played with it. shes secure tight. thnks good video
I use this knot to tie my plane down when I hand start it. Working end is really long to go inside the cockpit, once the engine is started and I'm ready to taxi and takeoff, I pull the working end and done. Use it darn near every day.
I'm an offshore sailor and I use this knot occasionally. Very helpful to secure a line quickly. However, I don't use it to tie a boat over night. For that I would add two half hitches to secure the working end.
Oh, I really do love it when people leave a comment and tell me more about a knot and how they use it. I sometimes feel a little seasick when people mention offshore sailing. I can only think of little boats and big waves. Destroyers or bigger for me shippers. Name your vessel so that I can do a search and see it?
I'm on different boats but one that I was last year is a 43 foot Hallberg Rassy. Sailed from Enkuizen to Edinburgh. Not a big ship but very seaworthy. I get seasick! Not very much but I do :-) This year it was a törn from Mallorca to Alicante with an Xc42. www.marinetraffic.com/ais/details/ships/269591000 www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:330708/imo:0/mmsi:269104880/vessel:DREAMING%20SWISS
Swing those lanterns............ Now feel really seasick!! Here is one of my old ships, HMS Glamorgan: www.hmsglamorgan.co.uk/assets/images/Glamorganpicture.jpg Thanks for taking the time to send me your links.
To make the knot more secure, now that the knot is tied, take the standing end and make a fold over loop and pass it over the working end and tighten. Now the knot is more secure and still unties easily with a tug on the line.
Great Knot ! Also..Sometimes when my hand is the middle of a Long line on both sides and you need to tie a not fast and easy I usually do this nice and simple knot.
Would you post a video on the in-line or (directional) figure 8? It is the foundation of several multi point self equalizing anchor systems as well as personnel retrieval systems. I teach it but would like a video done by you that I can show people as an alternative.
Also known as a "smugglers". Use it frequently but not for "secure" loads. The security of the knot depends on the circumference of the line relative the circumference of the object tied to. English is not my first language but I hope you understand. Thanks!
A painter is a rope that is attached to the bow of a dinghy, or other small boat, and used for tying up or towing. Ideally, the length of the painter should be no longer than the length of the boat, especially on small craft, to prevent fouling the propeller of an outboard engine. Painter (rope) - Wikipedia
Variant of the Highwayman’s hitch. I’ve found it’s more secure if it is wrapped extremely tight before the last cinch. I wouldn’t trust this knot under heavy load, especially with so many different rope characteristics.
Thanks for the info! I think for heavy loads I would personally use the Backhand Hitch. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
This knot works great, but fails hard when used on 1" nylon webbing. We had to loose a bunch of sail ties in an emergency, all made from 1" webbing, except that the crew had used these painter's hitches. Damn near tore the sail in half. Traditional slip knots work much better with flat lines
So that's how you tie your horse up! Mines been wandering round for years! Although my wife says it's a dog not a horse lol but it eats grass I don't know what's the best knot to tie my wife up I wonder? LOL
I have a lurcher cross gray hound and a jack Russel planning on doing a video tomorrow about my collection and I have decided the knifes I make from now on will be sold for water aid to the highest bidder however small or big I'm hoping to keep poping out videos I have a lot of ideas but definitely going charity based with my sales if anyone buys them
If you are looking for a easy, fast and secure way of joining two ropes. then maybe the Alpine Butterfly Bend would suit: ua-cam.com/video/h0NlB1xf-DA/v-deo.html would this work or do you mean something else?
As long as there's tension/weight on it, the know hitch should work fine. I could see utility workers, painters and anyone who works on a high place or ladder using this to haul up an item. Of course, you need an assistant on the ground!
Yes that is how you hitch a horses lead rope However, with a lead rope you would continue to do a dayzie chain And if your horse tends to fiddle with the rope then yes you would have to lock 🔒 it But your lock end would need to be considerably longer So as the horse couldn’t pull it out
you cannot beat the security...Yes I am a cowgirl. lol Actually I just love riding horses :O) The hardest part is when horse does spook and pull it tight, unless you have left a long end it will be impossible to untie. Even slippery rope will still hold so tight it will not release even if a thousand pound horse is pulling with all his might.
This not but repeat several times and then pull the tail all the way through. Have tied up a boat this way for years. Undo the lock and pull the chain unbuttons
I use the painter hitch all the time when tying up my dinghy. For more security when finished with the hitch, put the working end through the last bight made; no need to snug 'the lock'. Use when moderate of 'light' weather; for heavy weather you're not going to be tying up anyway.
Learned it as the Highwayman's Hitch and BASICALLY, you use basically, like my son, basically too much. But then again, I use, 'and that there', at the end of a sentence, far too frequently. I was in blissful ignorance of this, then my mates at the swimming pool pointed it out to me. Now, I'm fekin paranoid about it, basically. Have fun.
Oh yes, "Basically" has been pointed out to me, I now live in fear of saying that word. This is the one that I learnt as the highwayman's HItch: ua-cam.com/video/xN2wdp0Wvj8/v-deo.html Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment.
snipper1ie, the knot shown is called the painter's hitch or the mooring hitch, but not a highwayman's hitch. They are two different knots, but they are similar, but tied differently.
Could be useful in the rescue of wild animals... Once the animal is out of the hole or the mud pit having the ability to release the rope quickly and at a distance would be a big advantage
Thanks for your comment. It is good to hear when people suggest different purposes for a knot. Possibly another good knot for this sort of purpose could be the Evenk Hitch: ua-cam.com/video/vRAwbBNsHZo/v-deo.html they are a tribes people that used this knot in capture and herding of animals.
An Internet search brings up a number of suggestions as to its origin. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
When I was robbing banks with Jesse James we used this knot to tie our horses to the hitching rail while we went the bank to rob it . When we came we just pulled the end and jumped on our horses and rode away. We called bank robbers knot.
If you are interested, I find the Secure QTaR Hitch a better knot: ua-cam.com/video/ypRd8e3VfvA/v-deo.html Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I have been involved in wilderness rescues where it was necessary to be able to retrieve your rope and we used similar techniques. It IS highly advanced and should only be used as a last resort by the most highly qualified, competent and cohesive team. Never say never or always😁. But I appreciate your comment. Just thought I would share that with you. Have a great day.
@@zechariahdemshar8696 think about what you just said... "Never say Never" is a contradictory statement in and of itself. That being said, My statement is correct. Any "quick release knot" is less secure than its non release cousin. Think about that too. You are rescuing someone from a cliff. You use a quick release knot (to save a few bucks in rope or some other reason) instead of a simple bowline. The quick release snags on a rock. The child falls to his death. I would not want to be you.
Yeah, we all have our favourites, just showing those that may be interested in this one. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment, much appreciated.
Oh mate, don't send me to a classroom!!! All my school days I just wanted out, I was lucky as I left school at 16 and had a great time then on. Actually I did some teaching the other day, but it was at a bushcraft school. This was far better than any classroom. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Passing the working end through the last loop is great for smart/mischievous horses that like to suss out different ways of escaping whatever you're using to secure them. Excellent video, as always!
30 years..... i saw an episode of MacGyver where he tied a sea plane up to a dock with a knot that he was able to release with the tug of the working end. and this is the day I figured out what it was. Thank you for making this video.
It’s also called a toggle hitch. It was used to secure crew boats, captains gig when I was in the US Navy in the 1970’s. I still use it for tying up livestock here on my farm. The not is as secure as the strength of the line or rope your using. Toggle knot and Double bowline, bowline with a secure knot on the tag end are very secure.
It is always good to hear about knots actually being used in anger! The trouble with some knots that I show, I can only repeat what I have learnt through my research. So when someone like you with experience praises a knot, it gives me pleasure to know more about the knot.
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I like this knot fine but if you slow it down it's identical to the Highwayman's Hitch but tied half upside down & a half twist is added when you finish the bow. The UNDER pass version is in fact the Highwayman's Hitch. I think that one twist weakens the cinch which might be why it slips on you. So funny how there are hundreds of working knots for similar jobs & yet they are all just variations on 4 or 5 total knots. Loops & Hitches & Bends oh my.
Thanks I needed that info.
@@saintpo Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
I’m a sailor and a horseman. Yes, it’s heavily used in both applications and you did an excellent demonstration.
You must be a very poor man, probably two of the most expensive things to be doing, as both take so much money to maintain!! 😉 Thanks again for taking the time to have a chat with me.
Johnny Debt not at all. Middle class income, very comfortable. It’s about “know how”, not money.
a strange overlap of professions... I'm the only cowboy sailor I've ever met! lol (at least since Selleck played Rafe in Crossfire Trail)
It is secure, but if put under strain can be hard to undo...
Very similar in form and function to a "getaway hitch" the knot you are tying I learned as the "Thief's hitch" and I use it for my horse and my fender alike...
@@chancelange I find the typical cowboy's Stetson & leather boots always get waterlogged and they drown, leaving me to swim back to shore ;)
@@KnottingKnots Some of us work as sailors and the income can be spent on a horse haha but you're right a horse eats money never mind a boat, love the channel mate you have thought me loads, much love from Ireland!
Love this knot. Great weight bearing knot. I have used it in the middle of the rope and lowered items to the ground as much as 50 ' below with the standing end. then pull the working end to release and pull up your rope.
Use it to stow away paint buckets, one guy down in the stowing space and me up on deck lowering them down. As long as the working end doesn't snag it's brilliant.
I was taught this knot as a kid, and was told it was called a Highwayman's hitch - with a story about it being a quick release for a horse when they wanted to make a run for it
Just stumbled on this video by coincidence, but I really like your channel. ;)
Sailor here. I don't know how or from who I learned this knot, but it's the only knot I use and instruct for tying up fenders to the lifelines, while preparing to dock.
It's secure because of the weight of the fender on the standing end, while the quick release on the working end enables a quick repositioning and secure it back again really fast.
The bowline knot is used famously at the fire department. But after captain figured out the "painters knot" as you call it. He fell in love. The security makes it handy for hauling small objects upwards towards it be a roof or balcony. and the quick release makes it ideal for fast paced action. Love this knot. It's easy 😊
Fantastic, I love it when someone tells a story of a knot used in anger. I have pinned your post for others to see. I take it then you are more a practical knotter than a decorative one?
Johnny Debt yes sir. I use them in more needed situations as I mentioned before, the department, than just to do it lol. Nothing against that of course 😊
A slipped bowline is as secure and does not constrict, (and if you can only remember one knot in the heat of the moment, then it should be the bowline.) Tie a painter-hitch around a person to raise/lower them and you can crush the air out of their lungs.
Used it to tie up a horse but were it is really handy is tying up my fishing boat. You can use as long of a rope as you want. I tie up the boat tight and when I want to get in my boat I take the working end with me. These days it takes me a while to get in the boat. I get settled and pull on the working end and I'm a float. The knot has never failed me yet with a horse or a boat. Sometimes the post I tie it too fails but that's not the knots fault. Thank you very much for your excellent videos. Very well explained.
Glad that you like it Steve, always good to hear of knots being used in action.
As a merchant mariner I used this hitch many times on ships when working aloft or down in tanks and cargo holds lowering tools, paint or buckets of grease. The hitch needs to be cinched up tight and the final locking bight should be left long. And most importantly the working end "or trip line" has to be long enough to reach wherever your lowering to, and care was taken to let it run free and not snag on anything.
I love to hear real life stories of when knots were used in anger. I was a marine engineer and spent many an hour in fuel tanks. The worst job I ever had was to preserve a tank by coating it with grease. From your username, I take it you are a diver?
Yup. Tech diver for fun and used to teach recreational diving. I enjoy your vids, fellow knot tier and guild member myself. Keep up the great work.
Cheers mate, very kind of you to say. The only trouble is keeping people interested all the time. Maybe I ought to just do Ashley Book of Knots in the order that he did them. Then if there are any complaints about repetition I can blame him. Got any photos of your work?
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Beautiful work!
Very nice again. Thank you.
I use this one as a quick utility knot for hanging stuff up. Very handy as you say. It's not very stable, if you pull hard on the stand it will capsize into something more stable but not a tumble hitch anymore. If, as you suggest, you pass the working end through the loop to secure it, you can still tumble it if you grab the bight of the working end.
Maybe have a look at the QTar Hitch, I find it to me more stable for my needs: ua-cam.com/video/ypRd8e3VfvA/v-deo.html
It is used by cowboys to tie horses to posts, tree branches etc. Some horses learn to pull on the loose end a free themselves. I also use it to tie the boat to a platform (oil rig) offshore. Easy to untie during emergencies. I use it all the time.
I've been tying this knot for years on my kayak anchor and never knew what it was called...good vid!!!
Hell Travis, thanks for popping over and leaving a comment. In fact, I am quite glad that you mentioned kayak could you take a look at this video and tell me if I am correct? ua-cam.com/video/f_jOhYD64Ko/v-deo.html
Yes! My father used this knot all the time securing anything to a roof rack. Mr. Whenever binding a roll ie tents or tarps. Much better than a shoelace box.
I use it all the time to tie up my horse. I like the way it comes free. So many knots used to tie up horses put the rope through the ring etc. They do not come free as easily.
I haven't seen that knot for over thirty years. I grew up on a ranch. We had horses that occasionally needed tied up for saddling, shoeing, or vet visits.
Nice when a knot brings back memories!! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Great video. This knot is very useful but you must test it’s hold with a given type of rope and anchor point, as it works more securely in certain combinations than in others. I agree with others who do not rely on this knot for dynamic load situations.
I use this knot quite often. Most common uses for me, are for kayaking and camping. Very useful knot, and can be very very strong.
Yes, this is a rather lovely knot and very popular! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Practical.
I just learned a highwayman's hitch and noticed a big difference between these two: this painter's hitch one requires some dressing up, checking it's tight all over, and pulling the standing end makes it twist and turn in a way I don't like (with a string/rope that's not very good for pulling things thight through from just the end). This one sort of wants to lean into an angle. The highwayman's hitch on the other hand gets tight just by pulling the standing end and feels very secure when you yank it. I also liked tying the highwayman's hitch way, way more with that annoying piece of rope/string. They are very similar knots however, the only different in tying them up to my eye is the orientation of the ropes. The underhand version of painter's hitch doesn't keep the standing end parallel and the working bight goes through the other side of the loop as a result. This little change seems to make the highwayman's hitch sit much more nicely against the bar and tighten more willingly.
If you are interested in different variations, you may also find the lesser known QTaR Hitch worth looking at: ua-cam.com/video/ypRd8e3VfvA/v-deo.html
I tried tying this on a rail with some slippery 3/8" nylon rope. I found that I could give several sharp tugs in different directions and could undo this knot quite easily, even if I put a good long loop in the final step with the working end. My conclusion is that it would be a good knot for fairly static loads, (hauling buckets, or gear upwards) but I would never trust it for a moving load like a boat, or an animal.
It would appear that others who have commented here and elsewhere, suggest that this knot is better with a natural fibre cord. Cheers for taking the time to comment and also report your results here. I have now pinned your post for others to see also.
Thank you for the great video! It can not be an easy thing to show all the twists and turns so clearly.
If there was still such a thing as a cutting room floor, I would be buried!!
If you repeat the last two steps, it pretty much prevents the knot collapse under high tension
I agree. I would not use it for an unattended boat. It relies on the rope itself being quite grippy (e.g. natural fibres) and being ted round something that isn't too slippery, and then not being subject to lots of variable forces. It is a useful knot within these constraints, and great fun.
I typically use a bowline for towing, since most boats have cleats the painter hitch has mostly fallen out of use in my part of the US. Asked my horse - friendly people and they use a different method because smart horses (and smart dogs too) will figure out how to untie themselves unless this knot is locked. So I suppose this one will fade away like the slippery bowline did with campers. Curious squirrels appear to be the issue with that one, although raccoons can also be the issue. Usually noted as your tarp falls down and a very surprised squirrel is spotted scampering away from the end of your ridgeline that suddenly came undone...
Very nice and easy knot...check out the Siberian Hitch too, is very quick and just as easy to untie. This one requires a couple of tucking of the loops or bytes..in the Siberian Hitch its a bit faster.
Yep, can also be tied wearing gloves as I demonstrate here: ua-cam.com/video/vRAwbBNsHZo/v-deo.html
I really think passing the working end through the hole and cinching it down makes it a somewhat reliable knot. And maybe instead of right across the front, turn the end around the back and through the hole. I like it. Good video.
Great knot. The cowboy days when it was used by bank robbers when tying their horse.
It made for an easy escape
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Use the knots in tree arbor and also climbing
Thanks for letting me know..
Being raised a cowboy & horse trainer since the 50's this is the knot most used to tie horses. Colts can get rank, through fits, others can spook & get in trouble & you can release them quickly. We always used bowline around the neck even w/ a halter on those unschooled type of horses as halters will break. On the other hand dinks that nibble can untie themselves. For the nibblers add more bites/loops as in a daisy chain.
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Absolutely superb!! Thank you so much for sharing real life situations involving knotting. Also interesting to hear about the Bowline. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
What's amazing is I never heard it called by name " Hey kid, here's how ya tie an animal up" I use for many other purposes also.
I have found that a great number of knots are known by different names from region to region and then even more when it comes to other countries. I am sure that you find that also with some of your everyday stuff too?
Being a Scout leader I think I will show the Scout's this one, it looks like a very useful knot.
Thank you 😉
Great demonstration! This knot is very helpful! So, on video U tied two schemes with a small difference, I usually use the last one. So cool, cause it quick-release)
We all end up with our favourite method. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
@@KnottingKnots Thanks for comment Johnny!
@@intosiberiaadventures1217 Nothing worse than writing a comment and not getting an answer!! Cheers.
You are the best knot teller...ive learned your method the best..thanks forvyour patience and knowledge. Peace...lets get knotting..how cool
#LetsGetKnotting 😉 Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Quick: How many here have had to re-learn a previous knot after learning a new knot?
Statement to the General Community~I’ve been cursed with CRS Syndrome and need to buy a knot tying book~Any suggestions for me?
@@benveach9689 Johnny has the best vids and he's entertaining. I make a folder on UA-cam of saved videos called Favorite Knots, and save the vids and knots I like best to that folder. Handy because you always have your phone with you, Not a Knot book. Lol no pun intended. I don't use knots much but enjoy learning new things, at 75 yrs old.
I try to remember one that is most versatile to me, and maybe one more at the most.
My all time favorite from Johnny is the Adjustable hitch knot. I use this for over 90% of situations. My next favorite is the Painter's Hitch. I sometimes use both in combination for a particular task.
Also, with each knot there are maybe 3 or 4 key elements that are key to tying a good knot. Learn these elements and it will make your life easier.
@@TheAllAtOnce 🇺🇸I’d make a file for vids as well when a child will do it for me~
Every time I learn a new knot I suspect I forget how to tie an old one
Canoeing and the like I use it a lot. Fairly secure for tying on to the bank or for when you are towing a tired paddler. Mainly in both cases I use it as it is quick to release. This is important when towing a tired paddler. Particularly useful in a Kayaking where I end up towing more often. I have never had it slip on me but the rope does make a difference. And you can generally tell once you have tied it with a tug if it is good enough or not. I use it all the time for temporary holding. Even use it for bags and nets when scuba diving. But not for things like tying down a load on a trailer etc.. only something you are going to generally be able to monitor.
Highwayman’s hitch, aka: Bank Robber’s hitch. I’ve never used a horse to rob a bank, so I can’t attest to that. Seems likely thought. I have used it to tie off a skiff. It’s awesome for that. It can be used to leave your skiff on your mooring or to tow behind your other vessel. When the hitch is properly dressed it tightens as the standing part takes a strain. It is therefore very reliable. Yet it releases quickly and cleanly with a good tug on the tag end no matter how much strain it has endured.
Perhaps you could start a new career in crime? 😉 😉 😉
interesting knott i put a toggle were quick release loop pull the same quick release tighten her. on the main line i played with it. shes secure tight. thnks good video
Yes, always good to heave a toggle at hand for additional safety. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
your welcome sir🤙🤙🤙
Love all your videos. Unfortunately I had lost track of you for a bit. Here is hoping that notifications work.
I use this knot to tie my plane down when I hand start it. Working end is really long to go inside the cockpit, once the engine is started and I'm ready to taxi and takeoff, I pull the working end and done. Use it darn near every day.
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I use this knot every day for securing overhead obstacles for parkour training(I'm a gymnastics coach) and it's very secure and easy to untie.
Good knot.
I had to use this knot when kiteboarding because I forgot my safety leash. This is an essential knot to learn. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used! Are you in general a knotter, or just passing by?
Johnny Debt I am a sailor and hobby knotter. When I had my kiteboarding safety leash conundrum, I knew there had to be a “knot for that.”
Great to hear that you are a sailor, thanks for sharing.
So easy to remember!
This one is also easy to remember and maybe a little more secure: ua-cam.com/video/ypRd8e3VfvA/v-deo.html
Definitely nifty. I'll have to experiment with it.
Good lookin knot great video on it thanks!
I'm an offshore sailor and I use this knot occasionally. Very helpful to secure a line quickly. However, I don't use it to tie a boat over night. For that I would add two half hitches to secure the working end.
Oh, I really do love it when people leave a comment and tell me more about a knot and how they use it. I sometimes feel a little seasick when people mention offshore sailing. I can only think of little boats and big waves. Destroyers or bigger for me shippers. Name your vessel so that I can do a search and see it?
I'm on different boats but one that I was last year is a 43 foot Hallberg Rassy. Sailed from Enkuizen to Edinburgh. Not a big ship but very seaworthy. I get seasick! Not very much but I do :-)
This year it was a törn from Mallorca to Alicante with an Xc42.
www.marinetraffic.com/ais/details/ships/269591000
www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:330708/imo:0/mmsi:269104880/vessel:DREAMING%20SWISS
Swing those lanterns............ Now feel really seasick!! Here is one of my old ships, HMS Glamorgan: www.hmsglamorgan.co.uk/assets/images/Glamorganpicture.jpg Thanks for taking the time to send me your links.
Ha, this is a real ship! Horatio Hornblower got seasick as well!
I was also once on aircraft carriers, basically, they were as you can imagine very stable. Putting the seasickness aside, I really miss those days!
AKA the Highwayman's Hitch. I've used it countless times.
To make the knot more secure, now that the knot is tied, take the standing end and make a fold over loop and pass it over the working end and tighten. Now the knot is more secure and still unties easily with a tug on the line.
Cheers for the additional information.
Great Knot ! Also..Sometimes when my hand is the middle of a Long line on both sides and you need to tie a not fast and easy I usually do this nice and simple knot.
Glad that you liked the Vid. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with others in the comments.
Have all these knot got a use I've just tried the fishman knot to tie on rope flag pole I like
Check out the Mad Cow Hitch to make it just a hair more secure
Would you post a video on the in-line or (directional) figure 8? It is the foundation of several multi point self equalizing anchor systems as well as personnel retrieval systems. I teach it but would like a video done by you that I can show people as an alternative.
Don't use nowadays but I still teach it
i still use it when kayaking to secure items in my friends inflatable kayak
And if he makes you made just yank the quick release😂😂
I like it a lot ...Subbed, and always a thumbs up!
Good Video! Thanks for sharing.
Referred to as the "get away" knot in the old west.
Also known as a "smugglers". Use it frequently but not for "secure" loads. The security of the knot depends on the circumference of the line relative the circumference of the object tied to. English is not my first language but I hope you understand. Thanks!
A painter is a rope that is attached to the bow of a dinghy, or other small boat, and used for tying up or towing. Ideally, the length of the painter should be no longer than the length of the boat, especially on small craft, to prevent fouling the propeller of an outboard engine.
Painter (rope) - Wikipedia
Variant of the Highwayman’s hitch. I’ve found it’s more secure if it is wrapped extremely tight before the last cinch. I wouldn’t trust this knot under heavy load, especially with so many different rope characteristics.
Thanks for the info! I think for heavy loads I would personally use the Backhand Hitch. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
This knot works great, but fails hard when used on 1" nylon webbing. We had to loose a bunch of sail ties in an emergency, all made from 1" webbing, except that the crew had used these painter's hitches. Damn near tore the sail in half. Traditional slip knots work much better with flat lines
great knot. i prefer to start the first bite going under the rail rather than over it. for me ... much faster.
With time we all seem to have our own little variations on a knot. Good to hear another little dit about using a knot in action.
So that's how you tie your horse up! Mines been wandering round for years! Although my wife says it's a dog not a horse lol but it eats grass I don't know what's the best knot to tie my wife up I wonder? LOL
A big dog then, what sort? How often do you plan to knock out your videos?
I have a lurcher cross gray hound and a jack Russel planning on doing a video tomorrow about my collection and I have decided the knifes I make from now on will be sold for water aid to the highest bidder however small or big I'm hoping to keep poping out videos I have a lot of ideas but definitely going charity based with my sales if anyone buys them
Wrap the working part once around the loop before threading the final slip through that loop. It's a variation of the Robber Hitch.
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Thank you for the knot info. Using carrick bend to join two anchor rodes--any alternative?
If you are looking for a easy, fast and secure way of joining two ropes. then maybe the Alpine Butterfly Bend would suit: ua-cam.com/video/h0NlB1xf-DA/v-deo.html would this work or do you mean something else?
Thank you so much for getting back to me and sharing your knowledge. I will check it out.
Wonder how many horses figured this out too!🤣😂
You could throw the working end back down the loop for added security. Yes, many people have said that their horses know how to undo knots.
Thanks for sharing ! ... I always learn something !
Yep. learning never stops.
As long as there's tension/weight on it, the know hitch should work fine. I could see utility workers, painters and anyone who works on a high place or ladder using this to haul up an item. Of course, you need an assistant on the ground!
Evenk hitch is a similarly useful knot,
Yes that is how you hitch a horses lead rope However, with a lead rope you would continue to do a dayzie chain And if your horse tends to fiddle with the rope then yes you would have to lock 🔒 it But your lock end would need to be considerably longer So as the horse couldn’t pull it out
I use this to secure my tail end when rigging.
I just love to hear when people use a knot in anger! Thank for sharing the information. Also thanks for watching a making a comment.
you cannot beat the security...Yes I am a cowgirl. lol Actually I just love riding horses :O)
The hardest part is when horse does spook and pull it tight, unless you have left a long end it will be impossible to untie. Even slippery rope will still hold so tight it will not release even if a thousand pound horse is pulling with all his might.
For cow boy's
That hitch was call the bank robber hitch
Here a cross the pond this knot is known as highway mans knot for quick getaway
This not but repeat several times and then pull the tail all the way through. Have tied up a boat this way for years. Undo the lock and pull the chain unbuttons
Thanks mate. That's a new one for me
This knot is also called the bank robber's hitch, the highwayman hitch, and the get-away hitch ... and there's another way to tie it.
4:26 :) well-exemplified example
Many thanks, I must have done something right in this video, as it is one of my more popular ones. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
seriously, Hitch is very useful. great movie.
I use the painter hitch all the time when tying up my dinghy. For more security when finished with the hitch, put the working end through the last bight made; no need to snug 'the lock'.
Use when moderate of 'light' weather; for heavy weather you're not going to be tying up anyway.
as you say a hitch joins a line to an object a knot joins 2 lines or a line to its self
It looks like highwaymans hitch or getaway hitch or bankrobbers hitch.They used it in the Wild West when they robbed banks and rode away quickly.
Yes, there are a few variations of this knot. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
Very good,useful and I will learn it.
But no-one in a hurry to tie up a horse would use it.
Not if you have to fiddle while tying it.
we call it the hiwaymans hitch or bank robbers hitch.
Skip to 2:02. If you are tying up an animal the knot has to come undone quickly and easily.
Please do tell me your preferred knot? It is always good to hear other people opinions on knots, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
Start at 2:05
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Learned it as the Highwayman's Hitch and BASICALLY, you use basically, like my son, basically too much. But then again, I use, 'and that there', at the end of a sentence, far too frequently. I was in blissful ignorance of this, then my mates at the swimming pool pointed it out to me. Now, I'm fekin paranoid about it, basically. Have fun.
Oh yes, "Basically" has been pointed out to me, I now live in fear of saying that word. This is the one that I learnt as the highwayman's HItch: ua-cam.com/video/xN2wdp0Wvj8/v-deo.html Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment.
Thank YOU for doing all the videos, very entertaining and educational and that there.
Glad that you like them. Please do keep commenting and maybe suggest a knot that I have not done before?
snipper1ie, the knot shown is called the painter's hitch or the mooring hitch, but not a highwayman's hitch. They are two different knots, but they are similar, but tied differently.
Could be useful in the rescue of wild animals... Once the animal is out of the hole or the mud pit having the ability to release the rope quickly and at a distance would be a big advantage
Thanks for your comment. It is good to hear when people suggest different purposes for a knot. Possibly another good knot for this sort of purpose could be the Evenk Hitch: ua-cam.com/video/vRAwbBNsHZo/v-deo.html they are a tribes people that used this knot in capture and herding of animals.
it's only a variant of the "higwayman hitch"...no..?????
That's a little different than the getaway hitch. But close.
We call it the 4H (club name )not it will hold a mad bull until the brord snaps
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used!
Like a half hitched half hitch
Why is it called Painter knot ?
An Internet search brings up a number of suggestions as to its origin. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
When I was robbing banks with Jesse James we used this knot to tie our horses to the hitching rail while we went the bank to rob it . When we came we just pulled the end and jumped on our horses and rode away. We called bank robbers knot.
We call it the robbers hitch.
Yes, many people say that. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
the bank robbers in the 1800's used that knot so they can pull the tag end and giddy up and gogogo .
Not sure you even need to loop the working end...
If you are interested, I find the Secure QTaR Hitch a better knot: ua-cam.com/video/ypRd8e3VfvA/v-deo.html Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
@@KnottingKnots Interested. And thank you for the link. 👍
Bank robbers getaway hitch.
عقبة الرسام
هل هذا سؤال؟
YAPYAPYAP.....
Be careful of putting your fingers in a bite of the rope when hitching a horse. You may lose a finger.
Aha, it sounds to me like someone is speaking from experience?
Any "quick release" knot, is by definition not secure. Never use this or any other knot for anything where it could impact safety.
I have been involved in wilderness rescues where it was necessary to be able to retrieve your rope and we used similar techniques. It IS highly advanced and should only be used as a last resort by the most highly qualified, competent and cohesive team. Never say never or always😁. But I appreciate your comment. Just thought I would share that with you. Have a great day.
@@zechariahdemshar8696 think about what you just said...
"Never say Never" is a contradictory statement in and of itself.
That being said, My statement is correct. Any "quick release knot" is less secure than its non release cousin.
Think about that too.
You are rescuing someone from a cliff. You use a quick release knot (to save a few bucks in rope or some other reason) instead of a simple bowline. The quick release snags on a rock. The child falls to his death. I would not want to be you.
I Use the " HYWAYMANS HITCH" I like better
Yeah, we all have our favourites, just showing those that may be interested in this one. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment, much appreciated.
John, you belong to a classroom, perfect explanation, excellent video!
Oh mate, don't send me to a classroom!!! All my school days I just wanted out, I was lucky as I left school at 16 and had a great time then on. Actually I did some teaching the other day, but it was at a bushcraft school. This was far better than any classroom. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
Johnny Debt Hi, John, I'm a survival instructor and also a DDS.
DDS?
Doctor of Dental Surgery...
Add a wooden stick in the very last loop and you have another Fail-Safe.
Passing the working end through the last loop is great for smart/mischievous horses that like to suss out different ways of escaping whatever you're using to secure them. Excellent video, as always!
30 years..... i saw an episode of MacGyver where he tied a sea plane up to a dock with a knot that he was able to release with the tug of the working end. and this is the day I figured out what it was. Thank you for making this video.
It’s also called a toggle hitch. It was used to secure crew boats, captains gig when I was in the US Navy in the 1970’s. I still use it for tying up livestock here on my farm. The not is as secure as the strength of the line or rope your using. Toggle knot and Double bowline, bowline with a secure knot on the tag end are very secure.
Yep. It’s good to tie fenders on the rail of my yacht. I’m yet to lose one by this method.
It is always good to hear about knots actually being used in anger! The trouble with some knots that I show, I can only repeat what I have learnt through my research. So when someone like you with experience praises a knot, it gives me pleasure to know more about the knot.
Spot on, a mate of mine uses the cow hitch, which is slightly simpler but definitely less secure.