I've got a model 242B from the 30's that I inherited from my grandfather years ago and has served me well... the leather pump seal finally dried out all I had to do was oil it again and the thing is back in service. love these!
in the early 60s we lived in wichita (mcconnell afb) and had neighbors who worked at coleman. we were invited to their pool/clubhouse once and eventually spent the entire summer there! they invited us daily and it so hospitable we couldn’t refuse. the coleman folks put out an incredible buffett spread and outfitted the entire grounds of their clubhouse with, of course, coleman products of every kind; tents, cots, sleeping bags, etc. i have never seen some again (excepting in mil) but it was a campers and outdoorsmans dream world! everything coleman made was on display and most actually in use. lighting, heating, cooking all done with coleman. at dusk out came the lanterns that light the pool, walkways, even the main entrance at times and at Holidays - what a cookouts and gatherings there were at coleman. great memories...
Excellent video with a lot of good points especially the Evaporust with the Bebees for cleaning the rust in the tank! I’ll use that one on my 1949 228D ! Thanks 👍
Just purchased a new dual fuel. Unboxed 30 minutes ago! Can’t pump it more than twice. You can’t get the rod back down after two pumps to tighten. Thank you for the video. I thought I was doing something wrong. Seems it ain’t me!
I have a mint Coleman Kero that I can pressurize with new fuel and new mantles but nothing is coming out to burn. I want to say it’s a 221 but just now I can’t remember yet will be at home tomorrow to find and rewatch this vid. Right now I can’t even have sound on so am watching without hearing the gems. I’m just 1/3 thru but want to say this is excellent. Also, I have to love a guy who is comfortable around kerosene and knows he can smoke without endangering hisself.
Your vid is the first I've seen that has to do with the pump check valve. Not to say their aren't others, but you really helped me repair two of my lanterns. I thank you very much. Please keep your videos coming. They are getting out to all of us. Thanks. Bill W.
I just picked up a model 220k from a white lady. It was super clean because she probably kept it very good. I tried lighting it and yes, it lit up like a champ. I love it...
Nice! I just got a '74 lantern for $20. Haven't had a chance to fire it up. Valves and cleaning lever were stiff but I got them to move freely. Seems to hold pressure on the pump and there's an extra pump and mantles stuffed inside. Looking forward to playing with it.
I saved a 200a marked 8 59 and a 228d nickel from the dump. They are both packed full of mud wasp nests. I love these old lanterns. Time to evict the squatters! Thanks for the video. I'll be back soon...
228d update works good enough had to flip pump cup around. Fuel flow seems low. Have to watch video again. Fount marked 50 can't read month side. I used dish soap and water... No leaks ! Thankyou!
I was told, that you can use a propane torch you sweat pipe with...and torch the generator... then drop it in cold water.. Repeat if you need to to get the ceramic/cardboard tube out. Also, torching it can help clean it. The older 'paper tubes' are ceramic type and can take the torch directly, but not the paper ones. (newer ones). I was told this from the oldcolemancollector forums.
I'm about to get my first Coleman, a 282-700t. It's also my first gas lamp, mostly in England we use paraffin/kerosene lamps. This vid was really useful. Thanks. PS: go easy on the cigarettes!
@@SWPhotography Up and running real good, fitted correct mantle, bit of a cleanup, checked for leaks (all ok), lube the leather and filled with Aspen4 fuel. Burned in the mantle, fitted the globe, bit of a pump and shes away! Super bright, easy light, great lantern. My go to already!
Bought my double mantle in '75 for $10 used. Used the heck out of it. always worked fine, never cleaned it. This thing will really give off a lot of heat. Warmed my van up to comfortable temp when freezing outside. Don't recommend sleeping with it on though. Will keep you warm outside if you huddle around in with a blanket over your back
I really liked your videos, I fixed a couple ov 200,220s. Theres a mini compact thats 330 lumins on propane. If you refill 1lb they last 20hrs on prpne. There tiny but mighty keep sum #51 mantels on hand. I love em
Great video thank you. I have a model 275 I’m going to work on. Hope it goes as easy for me as it did for you. Looks like I’m going to have to remove the check valve for starters, back pressure. Again thank you for a great video.
I have two Coleman dual fuel lanterns, a 295 model I've had for a good while which seems to work fine and I recently acquired a 290 model which is the one I'm having problems with. The issue is that I cannot seem to pressurize the tank and therefore it just doesn't light properly or if it does just about get going it soon stops! I reckoned that the likely issue was a loss of pressure at either the filler cap (losing pressure) or the pump end not working properly (not gaining pressure). To try to narrow things down with the parts being interchangeable between the lanterns I decided to swap the pump and the filler cap from the good lantern to the bad lantern to see if this cured it, if it did I could then work out which component was faulty. Yes, you've guessed, swapping these components, both of which must be good because they work on the other lantern, the second lantern will still not come up to pressure :-( Where do I go from here? Can you give me any advice, please? Thank you!
I soaked the leather cup over night in 3 in 1 oil . I have a 1970 model 220F the model number is on the bottom as well as on the silver band around the middle of the lamp . So far its holding pressure, but I’m moving soon so I’m not sure if I want to start her up because the mantel’s become very fragile after you burn them. I like the older ones . These , I believe are duel fuel. Colman’s or unleaded gas .P.S. not smart smoking near flammable materials.
Very nice score on the 228H. Yer wife sure knows what to look for. Don't cha just hate those child proof lids on the fuel cans??? W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee
Hi I am based in the UK. We don’t have a lot of Petrol lamps. The one I have was bought for me. It’s an old Coleman 335. I stripped it down after watching you doing it. I have lost the tip off the generator. Can I use a generator off a younger lamp as I can not get spares for old lamps here Most people use butane My friends are telling me to dispose of it. There telling me that if I use a different generator it will explode. Any advice would be welcomed I’ve sort of fallen in love with it Thanks
very nice very detailed video. i have a few in storage i should probably drag out and go through. i have never used mine, how long do they usually last on a tank of gas compared to the propane ones
Thanks Adam! A larger 2 burner like this one will last around 7 hours on a tank of gas. Better drag yours out and fire them up. They are great lanterns.
It can be a pain if it's stripped. A tool made for it ... one like this one. www.amazon.com/Coleman-Removal-Wrench-Professional-Lantern/dp/B01L7BMV7K will work sometimes cause the center bolt locks the tool in place. You can find them on Ebay or Amazon. If that doesn't work drill it and use a screw extractor.
did you make that check valve remover tool? and how and what did you make if out of? and what would you charge someone to make one for them? please let me know . thanks
Hi AWH, I talk about what I made it from and how I made it in the video here: ua-cam.com/video/TUvTGTKQay8/v-deo.htmlm40s I don't have any free time to make one right now but there are several guys that make a lot nicer one than mine. There's several of them on Ebay for around 32 bucks and free shipping. www.ebay.com/p/Coleman-Lantern-Stove-Check-Valve-Removal-Tool/1531970510
there is nothing wrong with that rusted 220. soak it in evapo-rust for a day then do a regular jet system clean! as for pinholes in fonts.... i solder them but covert the latern to kerosene (for safety sake), never had a prob
Mike Cip yes or it just needs to be cleaned. One way to check is pull the generator and take it outside, pump it up a little and slowly open the valve. If gas comes out then it’s the generator, if not it’s the pickup tube. Good luck
you could get a new style generator and use a tip cleaner 0.008 in size and see if the new ones are too big or not. but i just buy new style ones and rebuild my old ones for now.
OMG. Pouring flammable fuel, and talking about flare ups when he starts it, saying 'I've got three fire extinguishers if I need 'em' - and has a lit cigarette beside him!!
thank you I was looking for how the cleaning lever worked and what it did and so far this is the only video that actually mentioned it.
I've got a model 242B from the 30's that I inherited from my grandfather years ago and has served me well... the leather pump seal finally dried out all I had to do was oil it again and the thing is back in service. love these!
in the early 60s we lived in wichita (mcconnell afb) and had neighbors who worked at coleman. we were invited to their pool/clubhouse once and eventually spent the entire summer there! they invited us daily and it so hospitable we couldn’t refuse. the coleman folks put out an incredible buffett spread and outfitted the entire grounds of their clubhouse with, of course, coleman products of every kind; tents, cots, sleeping bags, etc. i have never seen some again (excepting in mil) but it was a campers and outdoorsmans dream world! everything coleman made was on display and most actually in use. lighting, heating, cooking all done with coleman. at dusk out came the lanterns that light the pool, walkways, even the main entrance at times and at Holidays - what a cookouts and gatherings there were at coleman. great memories...
Lovely. Thanks for sharing. I have two. Appreciate your fine work.
Excellent video with a lot of good points especially the Evaporust with the Bebees for cleaning the rust in the tank! I’ll use that one on my 1949 228D ! Thanks 👍
Outstanding video thanks for taking the time to film it it is appreciated.
Just purchased a new dual fuel. Unboxed 30 minutes ago! Can’t pump it more than twice. You can’t get the rod back down after two pumps to tighten. Thank you for the video. I thought I was doing something wrong. Seems it ain’t me!
I have a mint Coleman Kero that I can pressurize with new fuel and new mantles but nothing is coming out to burn. I want to say it’s a 221 but just now I can’t remember yet will be at home tomorrow to find and rewatch this vid. Right now I can’t even have sound on so am watching without hearing the gems. I’m just 1/3 thru but want to say this is excellent.
Also, I have to love a guy who is comfortable around kerosene and knows he can smoke without endangering hisself.
Lol ... Thanks Nowakezone Forever. I get a kick out of reading the comments from ppl that think I’m going to blow up.
I hope ya can figure yours out.
Your vid is the first I've seen that has to do with the pump check valve. Not to say their aren't others, but you really helped me repair two of my lanterns. I thank you very much. Please keep your videos coming. They are getting out to all of us. Thanks. Bill W.
Also btw. Nice tool for check valve removal. Needs to be available. Just a hint.
I just picked up a model 220k from a white lady. It was super clean because she probably kept it very good. I tried lighting it and yes, it lit up like a champ. I love it...
A Whte lady?
I’m sorry but not in a racist way of saying. I respect this lady very much because she did what she promised me. Please excuse my language.
@@TubTsovPhajEj relax man, i didn't mean anything by it
Nice! I just got a '74 lantern for $20. Haven't had a chance to fire it up. Valves and cleaning lever were stiff but I got them to move freely. Seems to hold pressure on the pump and there's an extra pump and mantles stuffed inside. Looking forward to playing with it.
I saved a 200a marked 8 59 and a 228d nickel from the dump. They are both packed full of mud wasp nests. I love these old lanterns. Time to evict the squatters! Thanks for the video. I'll be back soon...
Stacy Boots good luck with your lanterns. Ya gotta love those dang mud wasps 😡
Shane - Blind Dog Blades update 200a works great! The 228d will be the challenge! If these old girls could talk! Thank you.
228d update works good enough had to flip pump cup around. Fuel flow seems low. Have to watch video again. Fount marked 50 can't read month side. I used dish soap and water... No leaks ! Thankyou!
Good job@@stacyboots1818 I'm glad it fired up for ya.
Thanks Shane. Just found my Dad's 1960's Coleman lantern which is in pretty good shape so I hope to rehab it. Good vid.
Love this! Vintage Coleman is my thing. You should do more. Thank you for your service.
The frame on that 228 looks like its new, but the Hat looks pretty used!!
I was told, that you can use a propane torch you sweat pipe with...and torch the generator... then drop it in cold water.. Repeat if you need to to get the ceramic/cardboard tube out.
Also, torching it can help clean it. The older 'paper tubes' are ceramic type and can take the torch directly, but not the paper ones. (newer ones).
I was told this from the oldcolemancollector forums.
Best informative video on lantern tear down I've seen.
Thanks for informative video!! I love my old Coleman Lanterns. Great Channel!
I'm about to get my first Coleman, a 282-700t. It's also my first gas lamp, mostly in England we use paraffin/kerosene lamps. This vid was really useful. Thanks.
PS: go easy on the cigarettes!
seamanjive thanks and good luck with the new lantern.
@@SWPhotography Up and running real good, fitted correct mantle, bit of a cleanup, checked for leaks (all ok), lube the leather and filled with Aspen4 fuel. Burned in the mantle, fitted the globe, bit of a pump and shes away! Super bright, easy light, great lantern. My go to already!
Love the Coleman lantern videos! It's what attracted me to your channel!
Cool! Glad ya like them!
4Th ID loves this one ( reenactors ) Belgium.Thanks for your Service Marine !! Keep posting.
Bought my double mantle in '75 for $10 used. Used the heck out of it. always worked fine, never cleaned it. This thing will really give off a lot of heat. Warmed my van up to comfortable temp when freezing outside. Don't recommend sleeping with it on though. Will keep you warm outside if you huddle around in with a blanket over your back
I really liked your videos, I fixed a couple ov 200,220s. Theres a mini compact thats 330 lumins on propane. If you refill 1lb they last 20hrs on prpne. There tiny but mighty keep sum #51 mantels on hand. I love em
These things I’m starting to pick up thanks for the info because I kind a like him so keep picking them up good video
Great video thank you. I have a model 275 I’m going to work on. Hope it goes as easy for me as it did for you. Looks like I’m going to have to remove the check valve for starters, back pressure. Again thank you for a great video.
You're welcome Dan. Good luck with you're lantern!
Thanks for the video. I just recently picked up a couple of these cheap and I've got to do some maintenance on them. Cheers!
Great information. Thank you!
I have two Coleman dual fuel lanterns, a 295 model I've had for a good while which seems to work fine and I recently acquired a 290 model which is the one I'm having problems with. The issue is that I cannot seem to pressurize the tank and therefore it just doesn't light properly or if it does just about get going it soon stops!
I reckoned that the likely issue was a loss of pressure at either the filler cap (losing pressure) or the pump end not working properly (not gaining pressure). To try to narrow things down with the parts being interchangeable between the lanterns I decided to swap the pump and the filler cap from the good lantern to the bad lantern to see if this cured it, if it did I could then work out which component was faulty.
Yes, you've guessed, swapping these components, both of which must be good because they work on the other lantern, the second lantern will still not come up to pressure :-(
Where do I go from here? Can you give me any advice, please?
Thank you!
oldcolemanparts com/search.php?mode=search&page=1
(note, I removed the (dot) before "com") That is 'fuel cap' search results. Notice one is a 290-1401
mine is like the second lantern and was workin when I parked it 20 years ago.
Great tip, Bruce!
I soaked the leather cup over night in 3 in 1 oil . I have a 1970 model 220F the model number is on the bottom as well as on the silver band around the middle of the lamp . So far its holding pressure, but I’m moving soon so I’m not sure if I want to start her up because the mantel’s become very fragile after you burn them. I like the older ones . These , I believe are duel fuel. Colman’s or unleaded gas .P.S. not smart smoking near flammable materials.
I've learned alot from you Sir, THANK YOU
You’re welcome!
if you have an (academy sports ) store near you they usually have the new style generators for about $7 to $8
I left my pc for 30 minutes and ended up here
Thank you so much for posting!!!
Very nice score on the 228H. Yer wife sure knows what to look for. Don't cha just hate those child proof lids on the fuel cans??? W Rusty Lane K9POW in eastern Tennessee
Hi
I am based in the UK. We don’t have a lot of Petrol lamps. The one I have was bought for me. It’s an old Coleman 335.
I stripped it down after watching you doing it. I have lost the tip off the generator. Can I use a generator off a younger lamp as I can not get spares for old lamps here
Most people use butane
My friends are telling me to dispose of it. There telling me that if I use a different generator it will explode. Any advice would be welcomed
I’ve sort of fallen in love with it
Thanks
very nice very detailed video. i have a few in storage i should probably drag out and go through. i have never used mine, how long do they usually last on a tank of gas compared to the propane ones
Thanks Adam! A larger 2 burner like this one will last around 7 hours on a tank of gas.
Better drag yours out and fire them up. They are great lanterns.
Great video. How would you get the screw piece that is down in the plunger tube if it is stripped? Your vice setuo popped it right out.
It can be a pain if it's stripped. A tool made for it ... one like this one.
www.amazon.com/Coleman-Removal-Wrench-Professional-Lantern/dp/B01L7BMV7K
will work sometimes cause the center bolt locks the tool in place. You can find them on Ebay or Amazon.
If that doesn't work drill it and use a screw extractor.
Any tips on cleaning the inside of the fount. 288A700 has some rust. Cas I use CLR, or would you use vinegar?
did you make that check valve remover tool? and how and what did you make if out of? and what would you charge someone to make one for them? please let me know . thanks
Hi AWH, I talk about what I made it from and how I made it in the video here: ua-cam.com/video/TUvTGTKQay8/v-deo.htmlm40s
I don't have any free time to make one right now but there are several guys that make a lot nicer one than mine. There's several of them on Ebay for around 32 bucks and free shipping.
www.ebay.com/p/Coleman-Lantern-Stove-Check-Valve-Removal-Tool/1531970510
My dad had one need to look for it in the storage hope i can find it
there is nothing wrong with that rusted 220. soak it in evapo-rust for a day then do a regular jet system clean! as for pinholes in fonts.... i solder them but covert the latern to kerosene (for safety sake), never had a prob
@@jo9732 very simple. Switch genorator jet to a kerosene size and add a preheat cup. Utube 'coleman kerosene conversion'
Lacquer thinner cleans the check valves much better than carb cleaner.
I want to see the video where you clean the rust out of the fount with BBs and Evapo-Rust.
Tyson Bower me too. Sounds like a good solution.
You should try sea foam. Works wonders over carb cleaner.
My lantern holds pressure but when I turn valve on I hear no fuel spraying...lantern won't light. Do you think I need new generator?
Mike Cip yes or it just needs to be cleaned. One way to check is pull the generator and take it outside, pump it up a little and slowly open the valve. If gas comes out then it’s the generator, if not it’s the pickup tube.
Good luck
@@SWPhotography thank you sir I really appreciate it!
What size is your bushing that you insert into the check valve? outer diameter? inner diameter? Thank you in advance!
you could get a new style generator and use a tip cleaner 0.008 in size and see if the new ones are too big or not. but i just buy new style ones and rebuild my old ones for now.
I can get the generator tube out of my 220E but cannot get the heating tube, where the mantles hang from, out from the base. Any suggestions?
Charles T. Murray i have the same model and same question...
Try again
Charles T. Murray try spraying it with any rust out or wd40 let soak for at least 15 minutes. If all else fails heat with touch .
If you can get your hands on a can of Kroil that'll allow you to bust it open, far better than WD-40.
Forgot to ask, is the bushing made of brass?
Thanks for the info!
Nice job..!!
Where can a person go to online to order parts. I need a cleaning lever assembly, mine is froze and won't move. Bought at a garage sale.
Brad Huston eBay and www.oldcolemanparts.com/ are the only places I know of.
Good luck.
Thanks!!!
good
OMG. Pouring flammable fuel, and talking about flare ups when he starts it, saying 'I've got three fire extinguishers if I need 'em' - and has a lit cigarette beside him!!
I was expecting to see Marvin the Martian's "earth shattering kaboom."
What’s with the constant cigarette flicking brother ? Let it ash up for once
I’m jealous
Great move.....!! Smoking right next to gasoline!!
Don't go dropping that smoke in that fuel or your hair will be a good lantern.
No attraction a cast-iron skillit a 533 burner on white gas sum donut dough 😋 and boredom.
MIN 17:21..........WATCH OUT YOUR DAMN CIGARETTE!!!!
Entendí la referencia:v
nicotine addict?
Arky Bald Knobber no, I just like to smoke ;)
I rather use LEDs lanterns.
LOL, there you go.....I think you need to go to the Ladies section.........LOL