Citrus Pre Wash from Garage Therapy | Quick Test Tuesday Ep26
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2024
- In the 26th episode of my Quick Test Tuesday series, I have a quick use of Garage Therapy Zero Citrus, and even compare it against their Zero Decon Shampoo, to see if this is a viable alternative and if it does what it says on the label - I'll then decide if I want to use it again! SUBSCRIBE to see more!!!
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Im with you Mark, nothing wrong with GT Citrus Wash but I wouldn't order any more once my bottle has been used up as Decon does it for me. For me, Decon was a game changer of a product in so many ways, pre wash, snow foam or shampoo. I dont know of another product that is so good at so many things. As for Johns comment on wearing shorts, you're Irish nothing more to say🤷🏻♂
It really is that good Martin, hard for them to beat that with another product in the same category and could explain why theirs no V2 of Decon! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
And I'm Northern Irish so even tougher than that 🤣🤣 it's always winter ooop north!! 😁😁👍🏼
@@SparkleanAutos 🤣👍
@@SparkleanAutos wouldn't surprise me if it were in the works. GT so far have shown no willingness to rest on their laurels in improving products. I'm sure expecting GT Alpha wax to get a V2 to make it easier to apply, more durable and hopefully a price reduction thrown in for good measure as the current pricing is making it a difficult option to it's competitors.
I'm a big fan of GT products but Alpha wax, for me anyway, doesn't need a revision .. it needs to be abandoned and started from scratch... I'm off the opinion that a wax application is a process for enthusiasts, and it has to be an enjoyable process... I've tried Alpha Wax 3 times now and each time I haven't enjoyed applying it. Great results yes, but I can get great results from a lot of waxes and still enjoy putting them onto the car at the same time!
@@SparkleanAutos yep , I was so impressed with Alpha that I gave it away. GT are a top brand and enjoy lots of space on my shelf but for me any Soft99 wax kicks Alpha into the distance for performance and price
As you know, I’m a citrus kinda guy, but that decon stuff is such a great all rounder
I do love the price per wash concept, definitely like to see the calculations come back like the early vids 👍🏻
Good thinking 🤔 I'll maybe start doing that in the near future 🙂👍🏼
Great video Mark and welcome back Quick Test Tuesday 👏👏.
I have to agree with you on the decon arguement, its so versatile that you could water it down even further if killing the lsp is of a concern. However if its winter grime I tend to add a capful to the GT snowfoam and thats enough to give it a bit of extra bite.
By the way my dash nearly needed cleaning as I spat a mouthful of coffee over it when I thought i heard you say lets rinse this Decon shit off, only to realise what you actually said 🤣🤣🤣. You're gonna kill my one of these days 🤣🤣
Thank you Paul, it's great to have the series back 😁
I haven't tried adding a capful to the snowfoam, that's interesting 🤔
Yeah, I was going to edit over the "decon shide" slip of the tongue but I thought you and a few others might like that one 😂😂
Thanks again mate, love the support 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Great video Mark and a welcome return to QTT!, AWESOME idea to test between Citrus and Decon, so GT now has up to 3 choices of pre Wash (we have 4 😉) it was quite a surprise to see GT releasing a citrus prewash when one Snowfoam has citrus in it 🤔 maybe satisfying the market for one or giving the consumer the choice as a lot of the comments seem to suggest they think Decon is only for old wax removal 😬
I agree on not using the lance method though, I might just go and order that pump sprayer now 😂
Thank you Graeme 😁
Yeah the misunderstanding around Zero Decon is quite surprising - people seem to be under the impression that one use of this will just completely strip off your protection, no matter how fresh 🤷🏻♂️ I imagine any product that could do that at 5% when sprayed on and rinsed off would also take some of the clearcoat with it, and would be as pleasant if it got in your eyes as the dreaded IW Incinerate 😵
But in reality Decon is an extremely versatile product and if you dilute it properly you can use it for nearly anything!
And I have to agree that the only reason I can see for Citrus being produced was to appease people who didn't understand the existing range... Snow foam (V1 & V2 😉) are both strong enough to deal with most, up until the point where Decon could easily take over and still be cost effective.
Finally yes, get the sprayer ordered (I've a second on its way to me right now 😁😁) and remember to use my link 🤣🤣🤣👌🏼
Another very well put together video and honest appraisal of a product Mark.
Like you im not quite sure where this sits in the range, mainly cause GT already have the very versatile Zero Decon shampoo.
I have found similar to yourself where the solution application is far more effective than the lance applied application.
Thank you Dave! Completely agree with you, the lance application just does nothing for me but some people must prefer it. I'll stick with what works for me 😊👍🏼
I did write a long considered comment yesterday detailing my thoughts on the difference between citrus decon and snowfoam from GT but seems it didn’t post and I can’t be bothered to do it again so you can just get…
Great video as always 🔥🔥🔥
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GT Decon shampoo is really versatile. I’ve been using it as a wheel shampoo lately having run out of GT’s own Wheel shampoo and I think it’s possibly even better and gets the browning out of the tyres too, which the GT wheel shampoo doesn’t do. Only question as a pre wash via a sprayer is whether it’s LSP safe I guess. Good test here anyway & thanks for posting. 🙏🏾
Thanks Barry, I've used it plenty at this dilution (1:19 / 5%) and haven't noticed any significant effect on LSP - Granted though because I'm always trying to test products I don't really put long-term protection on the cars! But it's supposedly very good for unclogging ceramic coatings... Thanks again 👍🏼
Good to see the quick test tuesday back Mark and this worked so well for this test. Some great tunes too👍
As for the product it seems a solid pre wash that does the job as intended. Something youd expect coming out the GT stable. The comparison with Decon is natural i guess and the question will always arise why they needed to release it? Youve only got to look at the comments here to see people simply dont understand Decon shampoo and its affects at diff ratios.
Would i buy it? Unlikely given i have plenty of Decon and understand how to use it. Plus for me, Citrus looks like a re hashed Snowfoam to me and i also have plenty of that which i have used via a pump spray to good affect. People will ultimately buy it though as people like "Citrus Pre Wash" in the name and this is the only reason GT would have released it imo
Thank you Andy, really appreciate the feedback 👍🏼
Can't disagree with a single word you just said - people definitely seem to be under the impression that if you let decon shampoo near your car it's just gonna strip your protection away 🤷🏻♂️ well, their loss sadly because it's a fantastic product.
As for the citrus, you're absolutely on the same page as me, just seems like a product that was introduced for people who 'prefer to use citrus' 🤷🏻♂️
Hi bud!
Decon for me any day!
Great video!
Hi Alan, hope you're well 👍🏼
Yip, definitely my preference over this - a very capable product, but why drive a 2.0 when there's a V6 in the garage lol
Decon is clearly a great product but I can't help wondering if it's a sledge hammer to crack a nut for medium soiling. Maybe I'm wrong, but a snow foam and a 1:10 surfex hd local spray for the bug guts would be adequate
Well it's a good question but... Using Surfex at 1:10 would actually be stronger than using Decon Shampoo at 1:20... plus you're also throwing a snowfoam into the mix which is actually making your suggested method not only more expensive (Surfex is half the price but you're using twice as much, plus the snowfoam), but possibly counter productive as, depending on your chosen snowfoam and when you apply it, you could actually be reducing the cleaning power if the 10% Surfex you've applied.
I'm not saying decon is the only option - personally I only use it when I need to, just as I use Surfex when I need to - but that particular part of this test was to demonstrate that this GT citrus product is on a par with Decon in terms of cleaning power at 1:20... this series is about testing individual products, it's not about me trying to declare the best products in each category, as there's far too many variables to make those claims 👍🏼
good video, i like my citrus pre-wash with a foam blanket, currently use Infinity Wax's one, but i have tried GT's and its similar to IW (but the safety caps are a pain, especially after very cold winter, and my fubar hands). In the GT line up, i guess if you clean your car often, you wouldn't want to be using decon everytime, or it will be stripping off the protection your looking to top up. Or perhaps you do want to strip off protection, if its just spray/rinse wax, or sealant. I've been using IW Wax Off Shampoo when i want to 'reset' and test other products.
Thanks Mogsy. I don't mind blanketing my citrus with some foam, especially after it's had a few minutes to dwell, but I don't find actually foaming the citrus itself to be cost-effective!
And no, I definitely wouldn't be reaching for Decon for every wash although at that dilution it won't be stripping off LSP, unless that LSP is already starting to degrade. I'm a big fan of the GT lineup myself, but I just don't really see a place for this citrus in between their snow foam and decon wash. But that's just me, I'm sure plenty of others disagree and that's what makes the world go round 🙂👍🏼
On my first try of citrus too currently was interesting video I think we will see a big difference in summer citrus based cleaners have a bigger effect on bugs in my
Experience
I briefly mention that in the video that I have used it off-camera from the sprayer on bugs etc and it was absolutely fine with them, particularly if there was good protection on the car! Just kinda pointless and wasteful as a foam
Hi great video I thought that the decon shampoo was designed for striping waxes so every time you use it it will take off your protection so the prewash will not take off your protection only the crap that's my thoughts maybe you can advise me but that's how I see it.
Hi Craig - Decon shampoo will help remove the remnants of old waxes/sealants IF they're already showing signs of failing - but using it at this sort of ratio won't have that effect - if it strips a fresh wax off at 5% dilution then that wax wasn't very good to begin with!
In actual fact, for ceramic coatings, products like decon shampoo, and even fallout removers, can actually help to unclog them and bring back the water behaviour.
So no, it's a common misconception but in reality, contact washing will do more to degrade a wax/sealant than using something like either of these at that dilution ratio 👍🏼
Thank you for the very helpful information much appreciated
Any time Craig 🙂👍🏼
i have tryed loads of diffrent brands of prewash for me bilt hamber serfex hd its on another level to any thing i have tryed £18 for 5 litres 💪
If your priority is pre-wash then you need to try this -
www.a-kem.com/products/articu
At 30:1 in the winter it'll outperform Surfex at double that concentration - before I started out on youtube, I was like yourself and used Surfex every time... Since I discovered this stuff I haven't bought a single bottle of Surfex 👍🏼
Hi Mark you are either brave or mad wearing shorts in winter but by the amount of bugs on the car me thinks this was maybe filmed in the summer months. I have never applied Citrus products by lance and that will not be happening after this test. I bought AutoBrite Direct Citrus 5L in one of their sales and I have still 2.5 L left after about 4 years even though I use it nearly every time I do a detail and even after David@DM Detail suggested I could up the dilution safely I still don't see the level drop dramatically. I only pre rinse if the car is heavily soiled to let the citrus at least part contact the paint to get under the road film. I do love a white car as it can look clean longer but then you realise it is filthy when you detail it and they do look so good when finished. I do like to LSP them with a spray sealant or a liquid product rather than a wax as they are difficult to see where they are waxed unless I am really methodical and have a lot of time to keep checking my progress. With regards GT products I have used most of them and they do really impress me. I would be using citrus rather than decon if I had a wax on the car but if it was a deep clean Decon would be my product of choice rather than citrus as a pre wash. After your previous video I put Sigma on top of one of Mitchell & Kings luxury waxes to great effect just don't tell tell John@M&K but it has come up really well and GT QD will be applied at the next wash to improve it further if that is possible. I look forward to your next video.
Haha yes John, I can't remember exactly but it was definitely filmed before last Autumn (judging by the leaves on my neighbours tree 🤣) but I'll also admit that I'm one of those weirdos who wears shorts all winter too 😬
I'm also a huge fan of the Autobrite Direct Citrus and actually bought another 5L of it in their Halloween sale - I find that it's on a par with this one as a maintenance pre-wash and it's typically about £10 cheaper for the 5L container. Typically use it at 1:20 - 1:30 but go stronger if needed, OR reach for Zero Decon! And if I need stronger than that I go to my secret weapon (which isn't even a secret lol) A-Kem PreClean (Previously Anachem Articulate before their rebranding) which is the strongest pre-wash I've ever used that I know is safe to use!
Glad the Sigma is working well for you and your secret is safe with me 😁👍🏼
Thanks@@SparkleanAutos
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Thanks for that. I do love a good side by side comparison.
The decon shampoo really does appear to be a superb product. But....... for me i don't know where it sits in the holy trinity of Surfex, Autofoam and Autowash😂 which is why I'm yet to try it. I jest, but those 3 products (mixing them and with different dilution ratios) basically do all car, bike and home cleaning. Can't wait to try Touchless v2!
I guess you'll never know until you try it and give it a fair, impartial comparison side by side...
For me, Autowash is without a doubt one of the most boring shampoos I've ever used, there's absolutely nothing about using it that makes me want to reach for it - the only thing in its favour, for me, is a 1:2000 dilution but it's only pennies per wash so I'd rather use a product I enjoy using lol
As for Surfex & Autowash - well before my UA-cam days, and even for the first few months of UA-cam, they were still my go to maintenance products but the more I used others, the more I began to realise that, particularly in the case of Autofoam, it's not the flawless game changer people like to believe. For one, you need to use about 200ml in a lance to even make it a decent cleaning product, it leaves a rainbow residue if not rinsed correctly, and it smells like a toilet cleaner 🤣
Surfex is Surfex and is still pound for pound one of the best APCs on the market, and it still gets used a lot around the house and the cars!!
Touchless V3 which is out now, is a true game changer. It's the end of AF and any other prewash product
@@SparkleanAutos hahaha thank you for you candour. Always appreciated.
I have 5 pre washes and just revert back to AF every time. I'll buy Decon when Just Wheels runs out and see what all the fuss is about😅
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@@kwl189 can you expand on that? i'm really interested to know why. cheers
Hi Mark another good product and technique review was strange to actually watch it on the correct day 😂 all joking apart I found this very interesting and I use your normal system and it’s never let me down, as I am only a keen car cleaner and not in your area of expertise I have 2 questions that have always been in my head over these processes, would you ever try adding citrus wash with the snow foam if leaving to dwell for at least 5 minutes or would that end up being g the same as you final test plus why when rinsing products do you start at the bottom of the car and not the top as I am wondering when you go up the car does it not transfer dirt to the bottom you have cleaned 🤔 would like your view as I always respect your opinion and have even been cheeky enough to ask for your guidance 👍
Thank you Roy, Quick Test Tuesday in a Tuesday for a change! Amazing isn't it lol
Right, to answer your questions -
1. Adding Citrus into Snow Foam - personally I've never seen a benefit to this, partly for the same reason it doesn't really work in this video - adding it to the lance significantly waters it down way below manufacturer's normal recommended dosage... But... Stay tuned as I do have a video coming up related to this very subject within the next few weeks 😏
2. Rinsing from the bottom up. Well, every 'expert' has an opinion on this but quite frankly, it doesn't really make any difference to the end result! I rinse from the bottom as I think thoroughly removing pre-wash chemicals is essential - but rinsing from the bottom it's easier to see which areas I've rinsed. But there is, I suppose, some justification behind it which works the opposite of a contact wash - when you wash your car with mits (AFTER THE PRE-WASH!! lol) you should always wash from the top, as nearly everyone knows. The top is cleaner, the bottom, being closer to the road, is dirtier... So the last thing you'd want to do is drag the dirt from the dirtiest parts upwards towards the cleaner parts. Makes sense
So... When prewashing, the areas which require the most attention are STILL the lower sections, only this time you do them first... As if you do the top first you'll simply be diluting the product on the bottom further before you hit it with the pressure washer.
Now, that's a theory and realistically the chemicals should have already done their work on the lower sections by that stage, but I believe that's why a lot of people do it that way.
But, from a video point of view, it just looks better on camera 🤣
Hope that answers your questions mate 😁👍🏼 and thanks again!
@@SparkleanAutos a fantastic few answers to my questions and has given me the information I asked 👏👏 hopefully my questions may have been on many of your viewers so hopefully ticket a few boxes for all, the only downside of your answer is the thought your doing another review soon 😳 😂 again just pulling your leg as usual and are you aiming for a Tuesday again 👍
I aim for every Tuesday mate, unfortunately I have the accuracy of a drunk blind man with no arms so I don't always hit the target 🤷🏻♂️🤣
Totally agree with you when you point out that the citrus doesn't really offer you anything more than the decon, and with the decon being more versatile I think a weaker solution of that would still do a very similar job through a pump sprayer, so as much as I'd like to own all the gt range and have an amazing set up in my garage I think I'll leave the citrus out. And just stick with my 5l of decon. Also decon shide cannot be said enough 😂😂😂
I agree Paul, I just can't justify this product for the sake of having the whole GT cleaning range, I'd rather spend the £££ on decon than this, it's as simple as that.
And yes, they should forget about calling the next one 'DECON V2' and go straight to 'DECON SHIDE' 🤣🤣
I think the main reason I would and am going to choose the citrus over the decon shampoo is the price point, I currently use decon for really bad door shuts, wheels/tyres, but citrus for the car prewash due to the cost per application
If it works for you it works... But as much as I love GT products there are better value for money citrus pre-washes on the market that I'd rather buy 👍🏼
@@SparkleanAutos care to spill? Havent yet used the GT citrus, currently using infinity wax, but looking for a change, just to try something new, at 20:1 I feel thats fairly well prices with trade account from my car cleaning £30 for 5 litres
Well if you're only paying £30 for 5L then I take it back lol that's a good price and it is a decent all round product - it's certainly much better than the IW one, in my opinion anyway!
Lots of mention of GT Decon Shampoo but it being caustic rules it out as being an option for me.
I understand people's apprehension but to be perfectly honest, using a product with some (I don't know percentages!) caustic ingredients once or twice a year, and diluting it down to a 5% concentration, will do no more harm than a weekly contact wash 👍🏼
@@SparkleanAutos I guess the problem I'm seeing is using this product week in, week out on alloys of varying materials and finishes, body work/wraps etc and the detrimental impact over time on them.
@@kwl189 that's easily avoided, don't use a Decon shampoo week in & week out, it's a product designed for decontamination washes... It CAN be used as a wheel cleaner, engine cleaner, tyre cleaner and even for interiors (at a very watered-down dilution where the caustic elements would be so insignificant that they would have no effect), but some people just like to keep products like this for when they need them - like TFRs or Acid wheel cleaners for example - you don't use them week in week out but that's not to say you don't buy them because they're not 100% safe to use
Have you used any of the j-tech products yet? Omagh made
No not yet, I'll maybe look them up though 👍🏼👍🏼
You didn’t mention if the vehicle had an lsp applied.. if it did then this vid is misleading
In what way would it be misleading?!
It would certainly be misleading if I'd said it didn't have LSP when it did, OR if I'd said it DID have LSP when it didn't... But if I didn't mention it, where does the 'misleading come from?
In fact, the main section of this video was a comparison between 2 products, so the LSP status of the vehicle was irrelevant, provided the test area was consistent.
Perhaps you should consider changing your attitude before making accusations and actually think about what you're saying?
Ha ha how did the guy not know you wanted to use it with an LSP 🤷🏻♂️🤣
@@SparkleanAutos maybe because a pre wash product works better when the vehicle has an lsp on.. I rate a product when it works on a completely unprotected vehicle but the problem is not many do unless they are very caustic! I don’t know why you are getting so defensive? I only asked if there was an lsp applied.. maybe you need to re read what I initially posted.. I’ve been in the detailing game for years now and the amount of over hyped products I’ve seen is ridiculous so maybe that’s where the skepticism derives from! I’ve seen so many people fall for the next detailing big thing when most of the time it’s just a reworded/redesigned product that has been before.. and don’t get me started on the buzz words that are banded about throughout the scene!
@@kamranhussain578 I'm not promoting products though, I couldn't care less if people buy it or not, I'm simply using them on the car in front of me and telling the viewer if it works or not. The overwhelming majority of people who watch detailing videos are people who regularly apply LSPs so they would, generally speaking, assume there was some... As it happens, there wasn't in this case, but I didn't feel the need to highlight that as it wasn't necessarily relative the comparison test I was carrying out... That said, had you ASKED me, I would have answered, but you didn't, you felt the need to imply that I was misleading the audience and I take great pride in being honest in my videos, so didn't appreciate the insinuation 👍🏼
@@SparkleanAutos no implication's or insinuations from me but do appreciate the reply.. I’ve been meaning to try GT citrus.. what a funny old world the detailing scene is ey!