On Wendnesday this will be my new bike! I bought a 2008 Yamaha Tenere and I sold it after 15 days. 210kg is so much weight for my first bike! I tried a CRF 250L and I loved it, so this 300L will be AMAZING! Thanks you for the review, it is the best on UA-cam!
I’m picking up mine tomorrow (Tuesday). I’ve taken crf250 rally for a test drive and I fell in love with it. Capability of these bikes is amazing. I decided straight away that I just gotta have 300l. It’s funny how similar story we both have. Have fun and greetings from Warsaw! :)
I'm also interested. My last bike was a XT600E. The class >10.000€ or >180kg is not interesting for me. Maybe i even had more fun with the 120kg DT80LC2 before. But 10 horsepower is really not much....maybe the CRF300 is the sweetspot. A KTM390 Enduro would also be great.
Little tip. If you simply flick the kill switch or intentionally stall the bike for quick stops, the abs stays switched off. (Or simply pull the fuse) I mainly hit the kill switch for brief stops, (opening gates, chatting, etc.) So only have to press the abs switch about once a day.
I bought one brand new and found it an outstanding bike. Honda stroked the motor and changed the gear ratios and it's an amazing motor. The suspension is soft but I liked it for tough single track. The only negative is it's weight.
Have had several WR250Rs and WR450F bikes. Got a CRF300L Rally after a few years off the saddle. Couldn't be happier. Test rode the CRF450RL but liked the way the Rally rode on highway speeds and had less maintenance. Every bike is a compromise, but it does everything just well enough to keep me smiling.
I don't get why smaller bikes are called "beginner bikes"... I have over 25 years of riding experience, x00000s of km, have had GSs, Teneres, etc. and now only own (and really enjoy) 2 smaller 250cc bikes... Small is beautiful!
I understood that quickly after about 70000km and owning a 250 and 600 - unless you're planning to do moto-gp on the streets, 400cc is an absolute most you'll ever need.
I fully agree and share your experience...i remember one day i met peterhansel at a shop, he was preparing a rally on private, i ask what kind of bike he will use, his aswer: a 250 WRF...
Great honest fun video, as per usual. I changed my Africa Twin for a CRF300L this year and am really happy with that. It really is a fun and capable bike, if you don't feel the need for racing performance
5:30 awesome, it looks great and practical. I bought my 250L last year( after watching your review) , and 25000 kms later in 1 year.... I just love the bike, took it to explore, climb difficult hills and mountains pass off road , commute, rally, and a race with all the adventure bikes where i kept very well in front, completly stock but with good tyres. .the honda CRFL formula is great , having fun on a bike which is capable, reliable and fun to ride on or off road ( i was amazed how far and where i was going off road) . the 300 seems to have answer the little improvements needed . Perfect bike for the guys who don t need all that power, those settings and scary gearing. For the pleasure of riding , just because it does it in such a way , the honda became my daily driver .
Thanks for your video. Just bought a used CRF 300 L (with an aftermarket shock), waiting for it to be plated. My riding experience on it: about 1 km ;-) As you said not a racer at all, but an easy to ride allrounder, replacing my Transalp 600. I wanted something lighter, the Kove 450 Rally came close. But we don't have the tracks in Bavaria to ride the Chinese rally bike in all seriousness. Cheers from Nürnberg, Günter
Das melhores reviews feitas sobre este modelo. Penso que a Honda devia oferecer opções sobre suspensões ajustáveis. De resto, este canal se estivesse noutro país já teria mais de 100k de subscrições. Tem qualidade acima da média.
Hey Rui, obrigado por veres e comentares! Por acaso nem acho q esta review tenha saido assim tao bem... Acho q de todas é a que gosto menos, mas fiz o melhor q consegui com o tempo que tive :D
I am in a market for a light adv bike. I went over your KTM390 vids, again.....For my style of riding, mostly side roads and light off roads that bike was almost the winner. The weight is right, the power is awesome, with some tweaks the suspension could be sorted out, for me the cast wheels make more sense (emotionally spoke are nicer, but I am sorta tired of dealing with inner tubes) and the ground clearance I could also due with. After watching real owners, long term reviews, I don't want to deal with all the possible issues. I live in Asia, here because of license/tax laws the new CRF300 is still 250, we got all the changes, except for the bump in the stroke. My 250/300 2022 Rally is underpowered, or the engine develops power in very uninspiring way, so yes bit of a toy feeling. As we all know, the suspension is just plain too soft, I am 75kgs, little bit of gear, and the shock is done. Your comment about replacing the shock spring is a very inadequate solution, the stock dampening (especially rebound) will create even more of a pogo stick effect. The real solution is replacing the shock, to balance the bike, match the fork springs, and re valve or replace front dampening. Done carefully its $1000 or lot more. Do little research on the new 300 clutch, seems that guys who use the bike in the dirt a lot, burn them up in no time. The new plates are much smaller to make room for the slipper mechanism. Finally, there are some of us out there (maybe not many), that are "experienced" riders who simply want a reliable, simple, competent light and fun adv. As the CFR300 is a "global" bike I think the Asian 250cc limitation or influence, limits the western version cc. I wish Honda or the other big 2, would built a 35 hp or so version, so a 400-450???, not over stressed engine (like the CRF450), put a reasonable suspension on it, keep the weight reasonable, stay away from unnecessary electronics. Is there enough of us to support and buy such bike? Probably not. Seems like I have done a 360 circle, looks like the 300 Rally is the perfect bike for my European visits and trips. I hope the little bump in power is a game changer from my 250. Thx for nice vids.
Generally I agree what your comment and your 360 circle xD but let me add some more info: The ktm390 might be a good bike for you...try it out yourself. My opinion on it may be misleading as i had a lot of unmet expectations. Doesnt really mean the bike sucks that bad. As for the increase of power on the 300l.. its not way more powerful, but to me, it feels like "just enough" to be interesting. Especially knowing that, if you fall in love with it there will be unlimited aftermarket upgrades and ways to make it better. If you really want to, you can probably get it to those 30-35hp, improve the suspensions quite a lot, etc etc There are no perfect solutions unfortunaetely :(
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I saw both KTM posts of yours, your second "correction" post was spot on. Yes, the KTM 390 is a better bike for me, but for me above all else, the reliability of the motorcycle matters the most. It's unfortunate, but the KTM as many other "higher" end manufacturers and the Chinese stuff, is too much of a gamble. Yes you can open up the 300, but again at a $$$ cost as well as the reliability issue. As I am more of a street oriented rider with the Rally, a 450 cc would solve all the power issues. Even that is a matter of perception, it seems that I like most of us want more, when we have plenty good already. Thx for the reply.
Noo Francois, actually I am still getting them from my friends :D But honestly, I think I prefer it this way... not attachments, no strings, and + time to test them. Thank you for your suggestions though... maybe some day I will use them ^^
@@OFFroadOFFcourse No, I totally agree!! This is much better than press bikes where you always feel you don't want to offend them. Your reviews are better for it!
Great funny review. Especially liked the super cringy ad, and how you acknowledge big adv are "stress inducing". After all, many riders seek the fun factor. I'm sold, or would've been, was the crf available in my country at a reasonable price (not available, and if it is in the future, won't be at reasonable $$) Looking forward to voge ds300 review, which, unlike the crf, is available here. Happy rides, man.
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Oh how we wish! No man. Even if we had, it'll be priced aggressively considering they'll be imports. I really want to see this 300-500 segment diversified here because it's probably the most easily affordable to many people :) Btw, this Honda or the Himalayan? What's your pick?
I'd love to see you review the Kawasaki KLX230, an even simpler bike, compares pretty well with CRF300L although 230 cc it is air cooled and has a fuel guage. Great little bike infact.
Thanks for your videos! You are the reviewer I trust the most :) I would like to hear your consideration on the SWM rs650r wich with his 144kg, 50 HP, low maintenance and cheap price could have potentially filled the market gap you mentioned in this video.
Dear Diogo, I have been watching all your videos with interest and pleasure for a long time. I ask you for advice. I am 62 years old, and have 2 motorbikes (Tenere 700 and CRF300L). Where I live (northern Italy) there are many restrictions for off roading. My wife recently purchased a Royal Enfield 350. Since I rarely use the CRF300L (which is causing me problems with the height) I wanted to sell it and buy a Caballero 500 Scrambler, a light, comfortable motorcycle, a little more powerful and usable with my wife and also for some small dirt roads: perfect as a second bike. I ruled out the KTM 390 even after watching your video. The question: given the conditions, am I right to switch to the Caballero, or would it be better to keep the CRF300L? Thanks for the advice, bye
Hello Basilio! I am very very sorry I took the long to reply! If you are not off-roading that much, then i dont see any reason to keep the CRF300L. And if you struggle with the height of the bike, than surely you would feel better on a lower, more stable and faster bike! I really enjoyed the Fantic Caballero Rally...and honestly, I would also enjoy the KTM 390 Adv if the main use would he on-road. The new 390 (2020+) is actually better than the one I tested, so please dont take it out of your list before you try it :) Its a very very fun bike that will let you explore some trails IF you get the chance :)
In the meantime I tried both bikes and chose to buy a new Caballero 500 Rally (the Ktm had too many vibrations, a tank and fairing that were too bulky, and a road riding setting, not to mention the aesthetics...). HI@@OFFroadOFFcourse
Thanks for the video. I love the entertaining factor on your channel. Is the clutch also as light as in 250l? I'd like to do a test ride of the 300, but it's not available nearby and the nearest dealer wouldn't even pick up the phone. My next bike is gonna be either 300 Rally or Husky 701. I wish there was something in between, that has EFI and 6 gears, but I have enough of waiting.
Oh how I understand you.... something between the "300L and the 701". I think we need a lightweight twin-cilinder (to have the offroad capacity of the light weight and the on-road smoothness of the twin).
@@pitchwife7573 5600euro, basically the same price as new. The bike had crashed and had a broken blinker and some minor other "signs" of the crash, but easy stuff to fix :)
What did you think about the front ABS off-road? Is it something that actually works well or something that you would really want off when riding off-road?
Não serei o único, e não sei assim tão bem, mas acho que percebo o que dizes :D Muitas vezes os artigos são escritos por jornalistas que andam de moto, e não por motards que sabem escrever :P Obrigado por veres e por comentares!
After a 20 year break from biking I can't decide between this or the CFMoto 450mt...i want to commute to work (4 miles) and some off roading ( if i can find somewhere)... which would you choose?.... thanks.
The CRF300L is by far a better off-road bike and a small commuter in my opinion. Its lighter, more practical, more fuel efficient, etc etc... and for me the best part is that it can take you ANYWHERE in the world. Anyone can ride it easily, its not a touring bike but it will tour for as long as you need it to, if you drop it you can pick it up easily, etc etc. The 450MT on the other hand is a very affordable and easy way to get into "adventure bikes", whatever that means :P Its a different experience, that I personally enjoy...but is it better than a good dual-sport? Not really
Thanks for your review! Would you recommend this bike for travelling through Europe? For example, riding 2000kms on the road in 3 days, than hit ACT Portugal and than back home again. Do you think it's doable on this bike?
Is very doable! Its not the most interesting or confortable bike on-road, but its perfectly capable od such a trip. A friend of mine just did 800km, rode part of the ACT with me and then when back 800km :)
I would consider the PR7 a dual-sport (or a small adventure bike...to me it kinda means the same). Its definitely not an enduro bike because its too heavy for that, the maintenance intervals are long, and you cant really race in any official enduro category (250-450cc, etc).... the problem with it is AJP itself. On my review I was too optimistic... the bike is sold out everywhere (so hard to get), the brand is not doing a good job restocking the distributors with parts, etc etc. Unfortunately, that kind of takes it out of the "recommendable bike's list" in my opinion. Is more like a "buy at your own risk" kind of thing :P
Great review, as always. BUT, £1500 more than I paid for my 250L new. A lot more cash for a small gain in power. I think the Ktm 390 adventure is a better all round bike for just a bit more cash than the 300L, with it’s pogo stick suspension.
It depends on your focus. If you want road and city with a little bit of non-demanding offroad, pick the the 390. If you love offroad ans have pals to ride with every other sunday, pick the 300L. For the purpose of making offroading seem easy accessible and safer the crf is a far far superior bike (even with the pogo stick suspensions) in my opinion. I wouldnt think twice :)
Viva , que boa review da Crf 300l. Estou a pensar comprar uma para alguma diversão em off road. Contudo, como penso usá-la não apenas para esse fim, pergunto se consigo andar na estrada sem grande cansaço por cerca de uma hora. E pequenos passeios com pendura (em estrada, claro)? As suspensões (principalmente a traseira) aguenta-se, ou será, de todo impossível? Agradeço
I know that this is a different kind of bike then Himalayan…however how would you compare them? I like Himalayan, however I deffo have more trust in Honda which is actually cheaper in Slovakia
Hello! :D The crf300 is a more capable offroad motorcycle that will let you follow any group of riders (with any biked) anywhere.on the other hand The himalayan does not let you go as fast and safely through hard terrain... As for travelling, they have +/- the same top and cruise speed, but the himalayan is much more enjoyable. In other words..i feel that the crf300L is a very good and affordable typical dual-sport. The himalayan is something diferent... Its kind of a comfortable scrambler that delivers.
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thanks for your valued expert opinion! At the end, I believe it will go down to the bike availability. Local Honda dealer mentioned that they have only 2 crf bikes available for 2022. I am looking forward to your Voge 300 review!
Diogo, the CRF Is so terrible to use with my girlfriend? I have found the american "seat concepts" but nothing to dico lower the foot pegs of the passenger....
It really is terrible... unless she is very small (and you too). The biggest problem is that the pillion's foot pegs are too high (too close to the pillion's butt), so its never very comfortable.... you can still ride for 10-20min, no problem, but I dont think she would like to spend the whole weekend sitting there :D
Acho que as marcas de motos podiam aprender um bocadinho com os fabricantes de suspensões de bicicleta - uma mola auxiliar pneumática (em adição à já existente) tem um ajuste super fácil e permitia uma melhor adequação ao peso e utilização de cada comprador.
As suspensoes "como deve ser" sao muito facilmente ajustáveis (nas normalmente sao a oleo, nao pneumáticas). Um dos problemas da crf é precisamente nao ter afinaçoes nenhumas :p
@@OFFroadOFFcourse A amplitude de variação do módulo elástico possivel de obter com um simples sistema pneumático é muito grande e permitiria evitar a maior envolvencia que existe para trocar de molas (além de que seria perfeita para em motas de aluguer ajustar as molas de um rider de 60 kg para um de 110, como é o meu caso). O que se consegue com a pré-compressão das molas de série é muito limitado. Quanto ao ajuste de amortecimento tanto em compressão como em recuperação também não é nada do outro mundo mas as marcas evitam usar cartuchos hidraulicos mais "presos" o que resulta no efeito pogo stick. Essa preferencia das marcas creio vir da tendência que temos em fazer um testezinho no estacionamento ou numa voltinha muito curta e uma suspensão com a hidraulica muito solta parece mais confortavel no primeiro contacto quando passamos por cima de buracos e bastava trocar o oleo das suspensões por oleo de maior viscosidade para melhorar significativamente. Enfim são coisas que dão pano para mangas, como se costuma dizer. Boas voltas.
@@karlsantos tudo o que disseste é super interessante, mas sinto "nao tenho estudos" para comentar xD De facto suspensões pneumáticas não são nada comuns nas motos, mas não te sei dizer se é por burríce ou se por algum motivo mais técnico. Transcende-me :p
klx300 is better by a long shot because of the far superior suspension. no other bike at that price has comparable suspension which is by far the most important when considring any offroad bike.
Yeah, I know... but unfortunately they dont sell the KLX300 in Europe. The CRF300 is indeed the only dual-sport on the market since 2004. (At least from the known top 10 brands) It sucks
@@philipraposo8324 Yeah... we dont have DRZ400, KLX300, XR650, KLR650, DR650, etc etc since early 2000's. Tne CRF300L or the Rally are literally the only thing you can buy new (actually, in Portugal, Spain and France you only have the L...not even the rally!) nowadays (and the Voge 300 Rally I will review this week :D ) I wish we had the KLX here... i would probably have bought it instead of the CRF for my tours :O (I do like the CRF though... very reliable and more than enough for the intended purpose)
Hmm... good question! I would have to try a WR250 again so I could compare them more accurately...but overall, I would say the WR is still superior (the suspensions are tuneable, and although they are not perfect, they are better and can be improved easily). If you own a WR, you really need to test the CRF and test if yourself...but my gut tells me you wont want to change =) The WR was too good :)
Moin, vielen Dank das es mit deutschen Untertiteln zu sehen ist. Besitze die 250 und die 690 r. Überlege die 250 gegen die 300 zu tauschen. Abo ist raus🤙🏼
I'm particularly interested in the voge 300 rally of the other small dual sport bikes. Except for the limited suspension, it appears to be a valid cheap option.
salut j'ai une YAMAHA 250 WR R de 2010 32ch plus légère, préparée par moi même avec un gros réservoir IMS de 17,5L. ( beaucoup d'autres modifications, la liste est longue mais rien qui ne peut être fait par soi même)) on ne peut pas avoir une moto à 5700€ avec des amortisseurs de qualités. cette moto a été pensé pour faire un maximum de vente plus que d'apporter du plaisir. mes propos manquent de nuance... oui...à 20ans j'aurais probablement aimé avoir cette moto et le fait d'avoir un prix raisonnable est une bonne chose. merci pour cette vidéo et pour toutes les autres
It’s impossible to get a test ride on one of these in Australia, but I have ridden the Himalayan, which I thought was pretty fun. Which would you prefer for city commute pus low level adventure riding?
1.) Which dealership is easier or cheaper to reach? 2) Am I confident to pick it up, on my own? 3) Further economic concerns. 4) Test sit both. For myself: H!, H, ?, ? Buying RE, because thats all you can get, is probably OK, especially when you rode and liked it. My urban German POV: Its a chonk and a guzzler. I also questioned my maturity; at tender age of 50 I felt lacking what it takes to ride a bike even slower than flat out on the motorway and worried that the Honda might withstand my mad 5 minutes or vacation end rushes back home, more gracefully than the Himalayan. Some UA-camrs posted about RE battery, relais and steering bearing issues. The Honda is comparably ugly, way too red for my liking, unobtainable and worst: Payload seems absolutely borderline for a big packrat, like me. YMMV.
What are your opinion did the machine do better with one sprocket more in front if i want to lower the rpm's i know the comprimise between lowering rpm's and longer acceleration
Another great review, I'm looking forward to testing the 300L myself. By the way, I don't think it's possible to change the rear spring on the stock shock. At least the guys at MAD TV couldn't, so if you want a stiffer spring you have to change the whole shock out (which by the looks of it should be done by everyone).
It is possible, yes. They were just pushing people to go for the full shock conversion. Although in my opinion, if someone can afford to buy the whole shock with at least rebound and pre load adjustments, I would advise to go for that route instead. Just because when you change only the spring you are increasing the worst part of the stock shock, which is the rebound being to fast, at least for most of the terrains inn general. This is just my opinion in my 36K on my 250L with stock suspension to this date.
I agree completely with Hugo! Improving the spring without improvivng the dampening is perhaps worse. Besides, the price of the spring (+ labour) will be perhaps 350€? Might as well put 250€ on top and get a propper shock with adjustments. I wish I had thought of this before the video :(
Hey there! I have 2 DR350SE actually :p I rent them for my tours and training sessions. They are great bikes, but they are old...and maybe ours work just fine and are reliable and we have owned the for centuries... But most people who want a bike nowadays dont want to risk spending 2000-2500eur (yeah they are quite expensive still!) on a 25year 350c old bike and then spend the next year spending additional money making it reliable enough to be trusted. Do you know what i mean?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse definitely! They are cheap out here. Got mine for 2000cdn and it's a blast! I'd like to compare it do a 300l or klx300 and see how different they feel.
On Wendnesday this will be my new bike! I bought a 2008 Yamaha Tenere and I sold it after 15 days. 210kg is so much weight for my first bike! I tried a CRF 250L and I loved it, so this 300L will be AMAZING! Thanks you for the review, it is the best on UA-cam!
Congratulations on finding one! Perfect first bike. Ride it stock for a few months before modding it.
I’m picking up mine tomorrow (Tuesday).
I’ve taken crf250 rally for a test drive and I fell in love with it. Capability of these bikes is amazing. I decided straight away that I just gotta have 300l. It’s funny how similar story we both have. Have fun and greetings from Warsaw! :)
I'm also interested. My last bike was a XT600E. The class >10.000€ or >180kg is not interesting for me.
Maybe i even had more fun with the 120kg DT80LC2 before.
But 10 horsepower is really not much....maybe the CRF300 is the sweetspot.
A KTM390 Enduro would also be great.
Little tip. If you simply flick the kill switch or intentionally stall the bike for quick stops, the abs stays switched off.
(Or simply pull the fuse)
I mainly hit the kill switch for brief stops, (opening gates, chatting, etc.)
So only have to press the abs switch about once a day.
Good tip! On some bikes (like the 390adv) that trick wont work. It sucks twice as much! :P
I bought one brand new and found it an outstanding bike. Honda stroked the motor and changed the gear ratios and it's an amazing motor. The suspension is soft but I liked it for tough single track. The only negative is it's weight.
Have had several WR250Rs and WR450F bikes.
Got a CRF300L Rally after a few years off the saddle.
Couldn't be happier. Test rode the CRF450RL but liked the way the Rally rode on highway speeds and had less maintenance.
Every bike is a compromise, but it does everything just well enough to keep me smiling.
Long waiting times for this and the rally version in most Eu countries...that says a lot!
I don't get why smaller bikes are called "beginner bikes"... I have over 25 years of riding experience, x00000s of km, have had GSs, Teneres, etc. and now only own (and really enjoy) 2 smaller 250cc bikes... Small is beautiful!
Hey Renato! I dont consider the crf a bike exclusively for beginners, but its the bike a beginner should get!
Makes sense? :P
I understood that quickly after about 70000km and owning a 250 and 600 - unless you're planning to do moto-gp on the streets, 400cc is an absolute most you'll ever need.
I fully agree and share your experience...i remember one day i met peterhansel at a shop, he was preparing a rally on private, i ask what kind of bike he will use, his aswer: a 250 WRF...
Great honest fun video, as per usual. I changed my Africa Twin for a CRF300L this year and am really happy with that. It really is a fun and capable bike, if you don't feel the need for racing performance
Totally :D
Thank you for watching and congratulations on your choice of bike :D
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Thanks :)
5:30 awesome, it looks great and practical. I bought my 250L last year( after watching your review) , and 25000 kms later in 1 year....
I just love the bike, took it to explore, climb difficult hills and mountains pass off road , commute, rally, and a race with all the adventure bikes where i kept very well in front, completly stock but with good tyres.
.the honda CRFL formula is great , having fun on a bike which is capable, reliable and fun to ride on or off road ( i was amazed how far and where i was going off road) .
the 300 seems to have answer the little improvements needed . Perfect bike for the guys who don t need all that power, those settings and scary gearing.
For the pleasure of riding , just because it does it in such a way , the honda became my daily driver .
Thanks for your video. Just bought a used CRF 300 L (with an aftermarket shock), waiting for it to be plated. My riding experience on it: about 1 km ;-) As you said not a racer at all, but an easy to ride allrounder, replacing my Transalp 600. I wanted something lighter, the Kove 450 Rally came close. But we don't have the tracks in Bavaria to ride the Chinese rally bike in all seriousness. Cheers from Nürnberg, Günter
I was looking at buying the crf 300 rally but now i will have a look at the navi tower instead. Thanks for the info :)
Great news!! Ahah, thanks for the comment!
The "meh" factor of this bike is quite low, which is a good thing 😁, offcourse! Love the review! ❤️
Yes! Very low meh % on this one. this is the best "small bike" since the WR250R. I wish they didnt shut that one.... stupid arsoles :(
Das melhores reviews feitas sobre este modelo. Penso que a Honda devia oferecer opções sobre suspensões ajustáveis. De resto, este canal se estivesse noutro país já teria mais de 100k de subscrições. Tem qualidade acima da média.
Hey Rui, obrigado por veres e comentares! Por acaso nem acho q esta review tenha saido assim tao bem... Acho q de todas é a que gosto menos, mas fiz o melhor q consegui com o tempo que tive :D
Looking forward to the reviews of the other small bikes 😀
I am in a market for a light adv bike. I went over your KTM390 vids, again.....For my style of riding, mostly side roads and light off roads that bike was almost the winner. The weight is right, the power is awesome, with some tweaks the suspension could be sorted out, for me the cast wheels make more sense (emotionally spoke are nicer, but I am sorta tired of dealing with inner tubes) and the ground clearance I could also due with. After watching real owners, long term reviews, I don't want to deal with all the possible issues.
I live in Asia, here because of license/tax laws the new CRF300 is still 250, we got all the changes, except for the bump in the stroke. My 250/300 2022 Rally is underpowered, or the engine develops power in very uninspiring way, so yes bit of a toy feeling. As we all know, the suspension is just plain too soft, I am 75kgs, little bit of gear, and the shock is done. Your comment about replacing the shock spring is a very inadequate solution, the stock dampening (especially rebound) will create even more of a pogo stick effect. The real solution is replacing the shock, to balance the bike, match the fork springs, and re valve or replace front dampening. Done carefully its $1000 or lot more.
Do little research on the new 300 clutch, seems that guys who use the bike in the dirt a lot, burn them up in no time. The new plates are much smaller to make room for the slipper mechanism.
Finally, there are some of us out there (maybe not many), that are "experienced" riders who simply want a reliable, simple, competent light and fun adv. As the CFR300 is a "global" bike I think the Asian 250cc limitation or influence, limits the western version cc. I wish Honda or the other big 2, would built a 35 hp or so version, so a 400-450???, not over stressed engine (like the CRF450), put a reasonable suspension on it, keep the weight reasonable, stay away from unnecessary electronics. Is there enough of us to support and buy such bike? Probably not.
Seems like I have done a 360 circle, looks like the 300 Rally is the perfect bike for my European visits and trips. I hope the little bump in power is a game changer from my 250. Thx for nice vids.
Generally I agree what your comment and your 360 circle xD but let me add some more info:
The ktm390 might be a good bike for you...try it out yourself. My opinion on it may be misleading as i had a lot of unmet expectations. Doesnt really mean the bike sucks that bad.
As for the increase of power on the 300l.. its not way more powerful, but to me, it feels like "just enough" to be interesting. Especially knowing that, if you fall in love with it there will be unlimited aftermarket upgrades and ways to make it better.
If you really want to, you can probably get it to those 30-35hp, improve the suspensions quite a lot, etc etc
There are no perfect solutions unfortunaetely :(
@@OFFroadOFFcourse I saw both KTM posts of yours, your second "correction" post was spot on. Yes, the KTM 390 is a better bike for me, but for me above all else, the reliability of the motorcycle matters the most. It's unfortunate, but the KTM as many other "higher" end manufacturers and the Chinese stuff, is too much of a gamble. Yes you can open up the 300, but again at a $$$ cost as well as the reliability issue. As I am more of a street oriented rider with the Rally, a 450 cc would solve all the power issues. Even that is a matter of perception, it seems that I like most of us want more, when we have plenty good already. Thx for the reply.
That Fantic looks awesome
Great review, as always!
Glad you enjoyed it, John :D
I personally love this bike, somedays I don't know if it is this bike or my tenere 700 I will take to the trail.
Great review! glad you're getting test bikes now :)
Noo Francois, actually I am still getting them from my friends :D
But honestly, I think I prefer it this way... not attachments, no strings, and + time to test them. Thank you for your suggestions though... maybe some day I will use them ^^
@@OFFroadOFFcourse No, I totally agree!! This is much better than press bikes where you always feel you don't want to offend them. Your reviews are better for it!
Thank you, I was just about to ask you to review the Voge...I'm loving these little bikes!
Can you ask your friend at One Adventure Offroad to make it with a legal headlight and maybe a bit smaller and simpler? Thanks and great review!
I think he is preparing that legal version as we speak :) But you should talk to him directly, he is always eager to hear feedback!
Can’t wait for those next reviews! Both the voge but specially the caballero rally!!
Awesome review bud cheers 👍🏻
Great review! Can't wait for all the next reviews. LIKED AND SUBSCRIBED! THANKS Diogo!
aha, thank you Franciso! thank you for watching ^^
Great funny review. Especially liked the super cringy ad, and how you acknowledge big adv are "stress inducing". After all, many riders seek the fun factor.
I'm sold, or would've been, was the crf available in my country at a reasonable price (not available, and if it is in the future, won't be at reasonable $$)
Looking forward to voge ds300 review, which, unlike the crf, is available here. Happy rides, man.
Man, what a good bike. Even just the reviews are making me love it. Another good bike which isn't available in India :'(
Why Honda? Whyy?
Hey, thanks for commenting! Do you guys have the voge 300?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Oh how we wish! No man. Even if we had, it'll be priced aggressively considering they'll be imports. I really want to see this 300-500 segment diversified here because it's probably the most easily affordable to many people :)
Btw, this Honda or the Himalayan? What's your pick?
I'd love to see you review the Kawasaki KLX230, an even simpler bike, compares pretty well with CRF300L although 230 cc it is air cooled and has a fuel guage. Great little bike infact.
Fico à espera do teste à VOGE 300 Rally e comparação com esta Honda (já que a CRF 300 Rally não se vende por cá).
Apoiado, estou mesmo à espera de opiniões reais e comparações entre os 2 modelos. Especialmente em matéria de suspensões. Obrigado ☺️!
Thanks for this. I will try one of these this week. :)
Great vid, as usual. Might be tempted if I ever sell my DR350.
Love the review
Thanks for your videos! You are the reviewer I trust the most :)
I would like to hear your consideration on the SWM rs650r wich with his 144kg, 50 HP, low maintenance and cheap price could have potentially filled the market gap you mentioned in this video.
Dear Diogo, I have been watching all your videos with interest and pleasure for a long time. I ask you for advice. I am 62 years old, and have 2 motorbikes (Tenere 700 and CRF300L). Where I live (northern Italy) there are many restrictions for off roading. My wife recently purchased a Royal Enfield 350. Since I rarely use the CRF300L (which is causing me problems with the height) I wanted to sell it and buy a Caballero 500 Scrambler, a light, comfortable motorcycle, a little more powerful and usable with my wife and also for some small dirt roads: perfect as a second bike. I ruled out the KTM 390 even after watching your video. The question: given the conditions, am I right to switch to the Caballero, or would it be better to keep the CRF300L? Thanks for the advice, bye
Hello Basilio! I am very very sorry I took the long to reply! If you are not off-roading that much, then i dont see any reason to keep the CRF300L. And if you struggle with the height of the bike, than surely you would feel better on a lower, more stable and faster bike! I really enjoyed the Fantic Caballero Rally...and honestly, I would also enjoy the KTM 390 Adv if the main use would he on-road. The new 390 (2020+) is actually better than the one I tested, so please dont take it out of your list before you try it :) Its a very very fun bike that will let you explore some trails IF you get the chance :)
In the meantime I tried both bikes and chose to buy a new Caballero 500 Rally (the Ktm had too many vibrations, a tank and fairing that were too bulky, and a road riding setting, not to mention the aesthetics...). HI@@OFFroadOFFcourse
Hope to see the Voge 300 Rally revieuw. Seems to be a nice "chineese" bike 🤔
It will be the next on my list (right after the caballero review that is coming out this week) ;)
Buen trabajo y gracias por hablar en inglés de manera tan clara. También me ayudas a aprender un poco más.
Cool, but why isn't "Adventure is Calling" putting out vids on the screen??
Rui is selling the tower locally first, to test it properly :) he let me announce it first hand to the general public :)
Технические характеристики конечно интересны, но мне больше всего понравился цвет:)))
Thanks for the video. I love the entertaining factor on your channel. Is the clutch also as light as in 250l? I'd like to do a test ride of the 300, but it's not available nearby and the nearest dealer wouldn't even pick up the phone. My next bike is gonna be either 300 Rally or Husky 701. I wish there was something in between, that has EFI and 6 gears, but I have enough of waiting.
the clutch is lighter on the 300l.
@@xRotivx Thank you
Oh how I understand you.... something between the "300L and the 701". I think we need a lightweight twin-cilinder (to have the offroad capacity of the light weight and the on-road smoothness of the twin).
Good review! But where's the link to the tower? can't find this product anywhere!
Its a small business, they dont have a website yet. Check their instagram or send them an email (oneadventureoffroad@gmail.com) ;)
Thank you!
top como sempre 👌👌
How do you go about getting your hands on one of these? Do we order directly from a Honda dealership? Thanks, great video
I bought it used, with only 1200km ;)
Already with a YSS shock and some other goodies 😈😈
@@OFFroadOFFcourse bro... What did you snag it for, if you don't mind my asking? What a find!
@@pitchwife7573 5600euro, basically the same price as new. The bike had crashed and had a broken blinker and some minor other "signs" of the crash, but easy stuff to fix :)
What did you think about the front ABS off-road? Is it something that actually works well or something that you would really want off when riding off-road?
Uma review por quem sabe andar de mota, aleluia!
Não serei o único, e não sei assim tão bem, mas acho que percebo o que dizes :D Muitas vezes os artigos são escritos por jornalistas que andam de moto, e não por motards que sabem escrever :P
Obrigado por veres e por comentares!
After a 20 year break from biking I can't decide between this or the CFMoto 450mt...i want to commute to work (4 miles) and some off roading ( if i can find somewhere)... which would you choose?.... thanks.
The CRF300L is by far a better off-road bike and a small commuter in my opinion.
Its lighter, more practical, more fuel efficient, etc etc... and for me the best part is that it can take you ANYWHERE in the world. Anyone can ride it easily, its not a touring bike but it will tour for as long as you need it to, if you drop it you can pick it up easily, etc etc.
The 450MT on the other hand is a very affordable and easy way to get into "adventure bikes", whatever that means :P Its a different experience, that I personally enjoy...but is it better than a good dual-sport? Not really
Thanks for your review! Would you recommend this bike for travelling through Europe? For example, riding 2000kms on the road in 3 days, than hit ACT Portugal and than back home again. Do you think it's doable on this bike?
Is very doable! Its not the most interesting or confortable bike on-road, but its perfectly capable od such a trip. A friend of mine just did 800km, rode part of the ACT with me and then when back 800km :)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Good to know! Thnx!
Muito boa avaliação.
Thank you for this review.
How do you consider the AJP PR7... enduro or adventure?
He already has a video on it: ua-cam.com/video/NsGsN98Zoec/v-deo.html
I would consider the PR7 a dual-sport (or a small adventure bike...to me it kinda means the same). Its definitely not an enduro bike because its too heavy for that, the maintenance intervals are long, and you cant really race in any official enduro category (250-450cc, etc).... the problem with it is AJP itself. On my review I was too optimistic... the bike is sold out everywhere (so hard to get), the brand is not doing a good job restocking the distributors with parts, etc etc. Unfortunately, that kind of takes it out of the "recommendable bike's list" in my opinion. Is more like a "buy at your own risk" kind of thing :P
Nice review. How would you compare this bike to the older Suzuki DRZ400S? +/-? Here in Norway a used DRZ400D costs 500-1500 EUR less than a CRF 300L.
How about a review of the Rally version?
it isnt sold here in Portugal, not easy to get one for a review.
Vitor already told you why :(
Great review, as always. BUT, £1500 more than I paid for my 250L new. A lot more cash for a small gain in power. I think the Ktm 390 adventure is a better all round bike for just a bit more cash than the 300L, with it’s pogo stick suspension.
It depends on your focus. If you want road and city with a little bit of non-demanding offroad, pick the the 390. If you love offroad ans have pals to ride with every other sunday, pick the 300L.
For the purpose of making offroading seem easy accessible and safer the crf is a far far superior bike (even with the pogo stick suspensions) in my opinion.
I wouldnt think twice :)
I have a 2020 250l and I’m not sure if it’s worth swapping to 300l? What do you think
Viva , que boa review da Crf 300l. Estou a pensar comprar uma para alguma diversão em off road. Contudo, como penso usá-la não apenas para esse fim, pergunto se consigo andar na estrada sem grande cansaço por cerca de uma hora. E pequenos passeios com pendura (em estrada, claro)? As suspensões (principalmente a traseira) aguenta-se, ou será, de todo impossível?
Agradeço
I know that this is a different kind of bike then Himalayan…however how would you compare them? I like Himalayan, however I deffo have more trust in Honda which is actually cheaper in Slovakia
Hello! :D
The crf300 is a more capable offroad motorcycle that will let you follow any group of riders (with any biked) anywhere.on the other hand The himalayan does not let you go as fast and safely through hard terrain...
As for travelling, they have +/- the same top and cruise speed, but the himalayan is much more enjoyable.
In other words..i feel that the crf300L is a very good and affordable typical dual-sport. The himalayan is something diferent... Its kind of a comfortable scrambler that delivers.
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thanks for your valued expert opinion! At the end, I believe it will go down to the bike availability. Local Honda dealer mentioned that they have only 2 crf bikes available for 2022. I am looking forward to your Voge 300 review!
Diogo, the CRF Is so terrible to use with my girlfriend? I have found the american "seat concepts" but nothing to dico lower the foot pegs of the passenger....
It really is terrible... unless she is very small (and you too). The biggest problem is that the pillion's foot pegs are too high (too close to the pillion's butt), so its never very comfortable.... you can still ride for 10-20min, no problem, but I dont think she would like to spend the whole weekend sitting there :D
Isn't ItchyBoots riding on this one?
She has the rally version, but yes
Acho que as marcas de motos podiam aprender um bocadinho com os fabricantes de suspensões de bicicleta - uma mola auxiliar pneumática (em adição à já existente) tem um ajuste super fácil e permitia uma melhor adequação ao peso e utilização de cada comprador.
As suspensoes "como deve ser" sao muito facilmente ajustáveis (nas normalmente sao a oleo, nao pneumáticas). Um dos problemas da crf é precisamente nao ter afinaçoes nenhumas :p
@@OFFroadOFFcourse A amplitude de variação do módulo elástico possivel de obter com um simples sistema pneumático é muito grande e permitiria evitar a maior envolvencia que existe para trocar de molas (além de que seria perfeita para em motas de aluguer ajustar as molas de um rider de 60 kg para um de 110, como é o meu caso).
O que se consegue com a pré-compressão das molas de série é muito limitado.
Quanto ao ajuste de amortecimento tanto em compressão como em recuperação também não é nada do outro mundo mas as marcas evitam usar cartuchos hidraulicos mais "presos" o que resulta no efeito pogo stick.
Essa preferencia das marcas creio vir da tendência que temos em fazer um testezinho no estacionamento ou numa voltinha muito curta e uma suspensão com a hidraulica muito solta parece mais confortavel no primeiro contacto quando passamos por cima de buracos e bastava trocar o oleo das suspensões por oleo de maior viscosidade para melhorar significativamente.
Enfim são coisas que dão pano para mangas, como se costuma dizer.
Boas voltas.
@@karlsantos tudo o que disseste é super interessante, mas sinto "nao tenho estudos" para comentar xD
De facto suspensões pneumáticas não são nada comuns nas motos, mas não te sei dizer se é por burríce ou se por algum motivo mais técnico. Transcende-me :p
klx300 is better by a long shot because of the far superior suspension. no other bike at that price has comparable suspension which is by far the most important when considring any offroad bike.
Yeah, I know... but unfortunately they dont sell the KLX300 in Europe. The CRF300 is indeed the only dual-sport on the market since 2004. (At least from the known top 10 brands)
It sucks
@@OFFroadOFFcourse oh I didn't know that
@@philipraposo8324 Yeah... we dont have DRZ400, KLX300, XR650, KLR650, DR650, etc etc since early 2000's. Tne CRF300L or the Rally are literally the only thing you can buy new (actually, in Portugal, Spain and France you only have the L...not even the rally!) nowadays (and the Voge 300 Rally I will review this week :D )
I wish we had the KLX here... i would probably have bought it instead of the CRF for my tours :O (I do like the CRF though... very reliable and more than enough for the intended purpose)
You deserve many more subscribers. Always good…
How would you say the CRF 300 compares to a Yamaha WR 250 R? I have one and consider replacing it with a CRF 300.
Hmm... good question! I would have to try a WR250 again so I could compare them more accurately...but overall, I would say the WR is still superior (the suspensions are tuneable, and although they are not perfect, they are better and can be improved easily).
If you own a WR, you really need to test the CRF and test if yourself...but my gut tells me you wont want to change =)
The WR was too good :)
Moin, vielen Dank das es mit deutschen Untertiteln zu sehen ist. Besitze die 250 und die 690 r. Überlege die 250 gegen die 300 zu tauschen. Abo ist raus🤙🏼
Vogue 300 rally por mucho menos, mejor estética y muy buena moto.
Como comparas a CRF 300l com a AJP SPR250, sendo que esta é mais leve e já vem com suspensões com alguma qualidade?
I'm particularly interested in the voge 300 rally of the other small dual sport bikes. Except for the limited suspension, it appears to be a valid cheap option.
salut j'ai une YAMAHA 250 WR R de 2010 32ch plus légère, préparée par moi même avec un gros réservoir IMS de 17,5L.
( beaucoup d'autres modifications, la liste est longue mais rien qui ne peut être fait par soi même)) on ne peut pas avoir une moto à 5700€ avec des amortisseurs de qualités. cette moto a été pensé pour faire un maximum de vente plus que d'apporter du plaisir. mes propos manquent de nuance... oui...à 20ans j'aurais probablement aimé avoir cette moto et le fait d'avoir un prix raisonnable est une bonne chose. merci pour cette vidéo et pour toutes les autres
How do you think this compares to the KLX 300?
Hey there! Unfortunately we dont have the modern KLX300 in portugal :( not yet at least
It’s impossible to get a test ride on one of these in Australia, but I have ridden the Himalayan, which I thought was pretty fun.
Which would you prefer for city commute pus low level adventure riding?
1.) Which dealership is easier or cheaper to reach? 2) Am I confident to pick it up, on my own? 3) Further economic concerns. 4) Test sit both.
For myself: H!, H, ?, ? Buying RE, because thats all you can get, is probably OK, especially when you rode and liked it. My urban German POV: Its a chonk and a guzzler. I also questioned my maturity; at tender age of 50 I felt lacking what it takes to ride a bike even slower than flat out on the motorway and worried that the Honda might withstand my mad 5 minutes or vacation end rushes back home, more gracefully than the Himalayan. Some UA-camrs posted about RE battery, relais and steering bearing issues.
The Honda is comparably ugly, way too red for my liking, unobtainable and worst: Payload seems absolutely borderline for a big packrat, like me. YMMV.
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KTM failed, simple.
What are your opinion did the machine do better with one sprocket more in front if i want to lower the rpm's i know the comprimise between lowering rpm's and longer acceleration
Another great review, I'm looking forward to testing the 300L myself.
By the way, I don't think it's possible to change the rear spring on the stock shock. At least the guys at MAD TV couldn't, so if you want a stiffer spring you have to change the whole shock out (which by the looks of it should be done by everyone).
It is possible, yes. They were just pushing people to go for the full shock conversion. Although in my opinion, if someone can afford to buy the whole shock with at least rebound and pre load adjustments, I would advise to go for that route instead. Just because when you change only the spring you are increasing the worst part of the stock shock, which is the rebound being to fast, at least for most of the terrains inn general.
This is just my opinion in my 36K on my 250L with stock suspension to this date.
I agree completely with Hugo! Improving the spring without improvivng the dampening is perhaps worse. Besides, the price of the spring (+ labour) will be perhaps 350€? Might as well put 250€ on top and get a propper shock with adjustments. I wish I had thought of this before the video :(
All of the reasons you like this bike are why I like my dr350. Still waiting for a proper 450cc dual sport though.
Hey there! I have 2 DR350SE actually :p
I rent them for my tours and training sessions. They are great bikes, but they are old...and maybe ours work just fine and are reliable and we have owned the for centuries... But most people who want a bike nowadays dont want to risk spending 2000-2500eur (yeah they are quite expensive still!) on a 25year 350c old bike and then spend the next year spending additional money making it reliable enough to be trusted. Do you know what i mean?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse definitely! They are cheap out here. Got mine for 2000cdn and it's a blast! I'd like to compare it do a 300l or klx300 and see how different they feel.
Impossible de trouver le site pour acheter le fairing pour la CRF Pouvez vous me donner un lien qui fonctionne stp? Merci