KT88, EL34 or 6L6 - Which do you like best? BLACKSTAR 10 AE SERIES - Series One, Artisan & Artist
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Some amazing amps from Blackstar from Winter NAMM'18. These 3 are 10 watts, and come with different power sections. A KT88, EL34 or 6L6 based. More info here: www.sweetwater...
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After all these years I hear a 6L6 & right away, "YEP! That's the one!"
greatvanzinni I don't know why so many just hate 6L6s... there's so many amps that I love that use 6L6s... so if it sounds good, it is good!
Unless these amps are cranked to 8 or above you're not hearing what the power tubes REALLY sound like
cast390 that's actually not true. Each amps could be set differently to start breaking up at different level. You could find an amp that would already start breaking up on 2. That's really up to the amp designer.
This argument will never die lol. It's an age old debate on the internet. My take is that power tubes of a similar type IE 6l6/el34/kt88 have some very tiny sonic differences, but less so than the sonic difference you might hear between say NOS mallard 6l6's and brand new JJ 6l6's. It's almost entirely the preamp that gives the amp it's tonal character. I've swapped out 6l6's for el34's on my Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier, and there is absolutely no sonic difference between the two on the same amp Same with a couple marshalls and fenders, I wanted there to be sonic differences, but there just wasn't ever anything that was worthy of note.
You are far more versed in this than I am that's for sure. I think back in the day (60's) everything was 6L6 so I have that as my baseline so to speak. We had Gibson & Epi which we understood to be the same amps just different coverings, Gray vs. Brown & we had Fender. Everything else were store brands to us & cheap, Silvertone, Supro, etc. I wish I had even some of the cheap ones stashed away in a closet these days.
6L6 for me ,nice demo TK !
HBDTTK! KT-88 gets my vote though I liked the 6L6, too.
Well yeah, the series1 preamp has a tonne more gain and the kt88's are super clean tubes. 99 per cent of the differences across these 3 amps is in the character of the preamp, not the different in power tube. Marketting mumbo jumbo to think otherwise.
Exactly. I had a single ended amp that you could swap power tubes. There was very little difference between 6l6, el34 and kt88 in that amp. It was so small that by using the tone controls you could make any tube sound like the other. So its really the pre-amp design specific for each tube that makes the difference.
Nothing at all wrong with preamps being tuned for specific power tubes and amps being sold for their unique tonal signature. But to think that these 3 different powertubes account for the drastic tonal differents across these 3 amps, would be very incorrect. I've got Mesa's and Marshalls that I can swap 6l6's and el34's in and out of the same amp, and really, other than very slight changes in feel and how the amps react at high volume, there isn't a whole lot of difference tonally. When you hear an amp with el34's it's typically got a Marshall style tone stack. An amp with 6l6's is typically going to have a more fender style tone stack meaning they're not going to sound anything alike regardless of what kind of power tube they are running. I was commenting more on this video and the way it was presented to imply that the power tubes were making all the difference on the 3 amps...as in, oo, yeah, I like the KT88's because there's way more gain and it sounds like metal...no, that amp happens to have kt88's because it needs the headroom, but the preamp is creating all that distortion not the power tubes...put a 6l6 in that series 1 and it'll sound basically the same, same with an EL34. The amps are simply all voiced differently, and their preamp voicing and speaker choice work well with each power tubes sonic characteristics.
KT88 or 6L6 the clean was sweet on the 6L6.
Oh happy B Day TK!!!
I liked the sound of all of them. I'm not so sure it's really the tubes that make the big difference though. I think that it must be each amps got a slightly different pre-amp in them. Which again is why I liked the sound of all of them. BTW that guitar sure did sound nice too.
Tone King, are you playing a Gordon Smith guitar in the video? What did you think of it?
Btw, I liked the kt88s best.
KT88 by a mile!!!
GuitarTex. That distortion is so smooth. Need a big amp full of 88s. What fun that would be
Yep kt88
Ive a windsor studio and im thinkin bout a kt88
sabbath all day
When is your next live stream TK?
EL34 fan but that 88 amp sounded A MAZE ING
KT88 fits best to Blackstar..
None of them with this guy playing
Roland jc is the only amp I love super clean
i prefer the series one and artist 10th anniversary amp
this is part of why Blackstar are taking over Marshall much better sales pitch
Wow, they all sound crap
learn some new licks . tired of hearing the same ones over and over again .
I am and Always will be an EL34 guy but those KT88 sound so Good!!!! not a 6L6 person. I dig the more 70's tone but that Crunch on the KT88 is Amazing!!! Thank you TTK and Happy Birthday Brother.
Yep, the KT88 did it for me in this test whether it was due to preamp or the KT88's
That's my favourite too.
The Series One with the KT88 had some ballsy tones. Nice! Happy Birthday to you too!
KT88. give to daddy.
I liked the first one best. They all sounded good in their own way though
I'm an EL34 kind of guy.. and Happy Birthday TTK!
I can't wait for them to build an amp both all tubes included with a way to select them (like the H&K TriAmp)...
We’re a little old school but the EL34 has the sound we like, each one is superb amp for the money!
Happy b-day !! :)
Thanks TB!
welcome & really dig that 1 with the KT88's in it !! :)
Man adding the DPR to this amp would be the ultimate amp....
Great Job on the Show TK! Thanks for all the uploads.
Happy birthday Mr. King!
Love the KT88. Thanks TK!
So which one would be more of an Gary Rossington/Skynyrd tone?
Richard Gregory gary for most of skynrd played the peavey mace amp which was solid state pre amp and 6l6 power tubes.
It's not really a full valve amp thow
if ur amp comes with el34z can u direct swap out for kt88z or 6l6?
Happy birthdate!!!!