How Shatter ACTUALLY Works. King VS Huma + Shiro is NOT Trash | Tower of Fantasy

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  • @lapocine.055
    @lapocine.055 2 роки тому +301

    This is why we need theory crafting in TOF..most tier list are based on whats written without actual testing.

    • @zacvarg3530
      @zacvarg3530 2 роки тому +6

      hopefully as it gets bigger in global servers, we get more informed tier lists 🤞

    • @vajraentite133
      @vajraentite133 2 роки тому +5

      Zajeff77, a TC for Genshin was asked about TC for ToF and from what he has seen, he says TC for ToF would just primarily be frame counting for Motion Values. And thats it. So we only need a fairly small team of TC Heroes willing to do the counting for ToF.

    • @nostradamuz_
      @nostradamuz_ 2 роки тому +5

      fr, if genshin had keqing main, zajef, tenten etc. having tof theory crafter for global would be very helpful imo

    • @mephilaz_3881
      @mephilaz_3881 2 роки тому +1

      Is there any ToF TC discord server? like Keqing mains in Genshin Impact.

    • @Tragedyval
      @Tragedyval 2 роки тому +3

      There are definitely many misinformation spreading around for sure. In pvp for example jetpack huma can be monstrous and not just jetpack crow.
      even Tsubasa and Shiro have some great niche pvp gimmick too. Shiro with confinement combo can 100 - 0 you under 2 second in pvp and in pve shiro with hologram relic is the best single target dps in the game ( yes it does more dmg than crow jetpack drill in pve) all ssr weapons seems to be viable for me because they all have their own gimmicks and tricks and it just depends on the players.

  • @TaiketsuG
    @TaiketsuG 2 роки тому +156

    Who needs other shatter/charge weapons if u can have Huma do everything herself

    • @Crazmuss
      @Crazmuss 2 роки тому +4

      Yep, balanced resonance also helps a lot with my boomer hands.

    • @KC_Smooth
      @KC_Smooth 2 роки тому +8

      That’s a good point. I might use her instead because I can’t stand King’s long ass aerial attack combo that leaves you as a sitting duck.

    • @zairemorpheus
      @zairemorpheus 2 роки тому +6

      Huma dodge attack is insane not to mention it charges up really fast

    • @prinnkulkaew2795
      @prinnkulkaew2795 2 роки тому

      real pain in pvp

    • @PoisonousRakun
      @PoisonousRakun 2 роки тому

      After so many rerolls, I am now spamming Huma...

  • @justinfreimann7367
    @justinfreimann7367 2 роки тому +116

    huma shatter does not only come from her attacks. its also the DoT she puts on the ground and the DoT from her fire element that shatter as well.

    • @lodsup
      @lodsup 2 роки тому +8

      then u slap a 2pc huma set on her and bam

    • @赵露阳-q3w
      @赵露阳-q3w 2 роки тому +7

      The dot is like 50% of the shattering on my C0 huma

    • @k-BlazeWW30
      @k-BlazeWW30 2 роки тому +5

      ​@@lodsup its broken yeah bleed

    • @Codezer0xshinzu
      @Codezer0xshinzu 2 роки тому +2

      @@k-BlazeWW30 shields go CrAcK hEalTh Go BrRrRrRrR

    • @k-BlazeWW30
      @k-BlazeWW30 2 роки тому

      ​@@Codezer0xshinzu easy Shatter yeah bro specially when u put huma together with shiro XD the shatter is like u paper enemies shield

  • @Lace
    @Lace  2 роки тому +36

    i friggen forgot to mention the KING aerial combo, even though i personally hate it 'cause i'm trash. it's air-a3c or air-a4c. whilst you're in the big aoe move, hold attack to use charge attack. it's a massive slam down.

    • @nyx4074
      @nyx4074 2 роки тому +5

      OOT, but please do Frigg breakdown after she got released. I really need your insight. Especially for f2p players.

    • @KC_Smooth
      @KC_Smooth 2 роки тому +4

      Same. King’s aerial wastes so much time and leaves you vulnerable. Shirou you can set up shield breaks and move while saving stamina for your main DPS.

    • @banefury
      @banefury 2 роки тому +1

      im new to this. what is this a2c a3c a4c mean

    • @BG-vg5jd
      @BG-vg5jd 2 роки тому +2

      @@banefury this is the first time i heard too but based on this video A means auto and C means charge. So a3c means auto+auto+auto+charge

    • @happyface5014
      @happyface5014 2 роки тому

      @@banefury a means auto and charge is when you hold that auto, so a3 means auto three times and hold, a2 means shiro basic combo for shatter and most damage auto twice and hold

  • @Kienamaru
    @Kienamaru 2 роки тому +8

    Been using Shiro's N3 C since day 1 of Global, and after getting her A3, you can actually use Full Bloom to instantly shatter shields because you'll get it back immediately. It comes in handy during Phantasm as it also resets the rotation of all other weapons, assuming they aren't stamina driven.

  • @MegarionZ
    @MegarionZ 2 роки тому +4

    This actually helped a lot. I noticed through gameplay that Huma seemed to break shields more easily than King, and I've been doing the same combo (I also hate the aerial shit), now I understand why I've been feeling that.
    What I like to do is use Huma to deal the most damage on the shields and than switch to have King break them, because he sets enemies on fire after breaking shields, so I have that extra DPS.

  • @TheStrongestBaka
    @TheStrongestBaka 2 роки тому +5

    As a King user (opened 4 copies as f2p), i would use discharge + skill + dodge attacks to pop shields. Thanks to this video, i'm now mixing in attack-attack-hold combos if i don't think i'm getting hit and using the skill for damage. It helped in Bygone. Nice tips!

  • @SmugHomura
    @SmugHomura 2 роки тому +17

    As a Huma chad myself I can confirm she's best girl. Peak gameplay: plunge (breach) attack, dodge out and dodge attack, plunge back in, dodge out and dodge attack. Repeat until out of dodges then go into axe form and start slapping 8)

    • @DavidBaronStevensPersonal
      @DavidBaronStevensPersonal 2 роки тому

      I try to get 2-3 stacks of strong shield (1* talent) before switching, since that turns to dmg buff

  • @sleepyartist2554
    @sleepyartist2554 2 роки тому +32

    Your video is VERY on-time. Just got Huma yesterday, and i was confused when level 1 Huma shattered shields faster than level 90 1-star King. Now i know why. Thanks so much!

    • @williampetrus9775
      @williampetrus9775 2 роки тому +2

      This is very true 😂, my s0 lv30 huma can deal more shield breaking than my s0 lv80 king 🤔

    • @Zarko.
      @Zarko. 2 роки тому +1

      @@williampetrus9775 lvl does not affect your shatter, as said in this video

    • @kevinkchao8
      @kevinkchao8 2 роки тому

      @@williampetrus9775 This is because King can't shatter worth a damn until s1

    • @williampetrus9775
      @williampetrus9775 2 роки тому

      @@kevinkchao8 tru... 😓

  • @rabbit9118
    @rabbit9118 2 роки тому +11

    Huma is so underrated,in her axe form she can shatter insanely fast+probably one of the best charge in the game

  • @jimmylm9894
    @jimmylm9894 2 роки тому +17

    Each bounce from Shiro's chakram during Full Bloom is 24.2%. Full Bloom starts with 5 chakrams that bounce 5 times. If you dodge attack 2 twice you add 6 more chakrams. (5+6) x 5 x 24.2% = 1331%. Multiply that by 30% at c1. Multiply that again by 15% at c3.

    • @d.n.t.saifullah5813
      @d.n.t.saifullah5813 2 роки тому +3

      youre saying shiro is better in shattering than king?

    • @mephilaz_3881
      @mephilaz_3881 2 роки тому +6

      @@d.n.t.saifullah5813 That's true, I saw that in game, also Shiro can do it off-field so you can switch to your main DPS while Shiro is destroying the shield.

    • @jimmylm9894
      @jimmylm9894 2 роки тому +5

      @@d.n.t.saifullah5813 I would suggest to change the framing to how does each character help your overall team comp. I main Shiro and King supplements. They are always in my comp because both can shatter and dps but one can do it at range, can buff, debuff, and charge up discharge while the other has a huge strong aoe discharge with a dot, large strong skill, and can proc flame dot. Combining thier abilities is the key.
      Another way of looking at this how to split resources and your preferred playstyle. A ☆6 King has more shatter power than a ☆6 Shiro. But would I rather spend my resources to get King to 6☆ and keep Shiro to 0☆? Now way. Would I 5☆ King and 1☆ Shiro? Maybe. Would I 3☆ King and 3☆ Shiro? This is the most balanced choice. Personally I went with 1☆ King and 5☆ Shiro because I like playing Shiro more than King.

    • @Gizmodeus.6684
      @Gizmodeus.6684 2 роки тому +3

      also upon shattering shiros full bloom resets.

    • @SuomenPaska
      @SuomenPaska 2 роки тому +1

      @@Gizmodeus.6684 Just to add on this, not just Shiro's full bloom but every characters weapon skill resets - which brings insane utility with her.

  • @zzz-px6jv
    @zzz-px6jv 2 роки тому +1

    @17:10 does someone understand what is he saying ? "a3c king" that s three auto then charged attacks right ?

  • @calamity6233
    @calamity6233 2 роки тому +19

    BROO ur vids have been so helpful it's actually insane how much you and Volkin have helped me on understanding the game better and being a more optimal player. Keep it up man I love your content

  • @uhoh6574
    @uhoh6574 2 роки тому +6

    In conclusion, Huma gets the Rie Takahashi buff, who herself has the Mash Kyrielight and Megumin skill trees, and thus Huma does big damage and has a cool shield

  • @jollyfalcon1277
    @jollyfalcon1277 2 роки тому +7

    Shatter isn't usually about sustained shatter, but burst - especially against bosses who you have to shatter before their big damage move. So, Shiro's full skill + 3 dodge might just be the strongest burst shatter in the game. The only downsides is making sure the boss is centered in the skill area and hoping that they don't move out of it - that is all fixed by a phantasm.

    • @Nakamako1
      @Nakamako1 2 роки тому

      i wish i had her man... you dont even need to build her for her to be good

  • @Brachiosaura
    @Brachiosaura 2 роки тому

    Uuugh, such juicy info for my king. Thanks as always!

  • @Shirodx
    @Shirodx 2 роки тому

    Great vid! Learned how to comb with King properly.

  • @Darcmagikan1
    @Darcmagikan1 2 роки тому

    My God I found a actually useful tog video that is not just obvious info or reading of patch notes. I LOVE IT

  • @zeldaevolve
    @zeldaevolve 2 роки тому +2

    Don't forget to not immediately switch out from Shiro's weapon if you're expecting her S3 skill reset
    Her weapon needs to be active for all your skills to reset
    Also, have you tried how effective the Wind Blade matrix set would be if it as just used to break shield? Like as for a main tank, if it's good to use until and not until you get a better matrix?
    That's additional 18% shatter btw

  • @0kills
    @0kills 2 роки тому +11

    Checking the chakrams translation:
    "Wheel flat a pull crotch, close to the face 2a charge, a total magnification of 303.7%, taking 2.4s, the average magnification of seconds 126%"
    pull crotch LOL no wonder shiro top... she pulls crotch.

  • @KoyomiVamp15
    @KoyomiVamp15 2 роки тому +30

    finally an in-depth guide to shatter. my 1star King feels so slow to shattering and I've kinda regretted raising him to 100 when I have a 1star shiro sitting at lvl 50 lol

    • @lain6711
      @lain6711 2 роки тому +12

      do not understimate king he is still very good and one of the advantages of having him is that it's a dps weapon so having 1 more dps weapon will get you resonance with 10% final damage upped to 40% if you're in a team

    • @KC_Smooth
      @KC_Smooth 2 роки тому +2

      Mine is 4* and he doesn’t feel much better lol. I’m going to retire him simply because I hate his play style.

    • @hwbysi
      @hwbysi 2 роки тому +1

      I'm on the same boat. Got king 2 star lvl 100 and shiro 1 star lvl 50. However i've found 'success' using king only for his ult and skill to shatter (occasionally using his auto attacks to finish shattering). I might raise shiro / huma in the future if I manage to have spare mats.

    • @cramax4871
      @cramax4871 2 роки тому +1

      I got him all the way up to 5*. And he still feels very slow to shatter without discharge+skill

    • @kyuuujinnn9425
      @kyuuujinnn9425 2 роки тому +1

      Probably using King wrongly. He mentioned it here. Use his ground hold attack.

  • @shinymew1213
    @shinymew1213 2 роки тому +4

    If you run out of dash on huma jump into the air and if the enemy is big enough you will instantly spin down. This works better than dash in some cases. It usually works on actual real bosses or mini bosses but it is a substitute when her dash is down to keep the big shatter

  • @revy6183
    @revy6183 2 роки тому +1

    just when i wonder wich one should i pick to go, lace drop this video

  • @xgamermarco
    @xgamermarco 2 роки тому

    It's always nice when stuff you learn by yourself and later on find ppl that reinforce your discoveries if more info and proof!

  • @shelbyKiraM
    @shelbyKiraM 2 роки тому

    "already dead inside" KEKW but ALSO... 𝙨𝙖𝙢𝙚!!!
    Def aligns with my experience. Shiro/King/Samir main... Lez gooo

  • @CelestialMelody
    @CelestialMelody 2 роки тому

    omg, an actual factual video with numbers and practical use, instead of the usual guessing and pulling out numbers from a magical hat while saying that those are facts~
    Thank you, you really did an amazing job~! Very useful video, many need to see this~!

  • @odinalmighty8063
    @odinalmighty8063 2 роки тому

    This answered a lot of questions I had about huma vs king thank you for the video

  • @louiswong0801
    @louiswong0801 2 роки тому +2

    Very insightful video! Thanks for the detailed explanation and demonstrations :)
    Had king as my shield breaker until I got meryl on 2nd pity of gold nucleus banner. Used my black gold and Ssr box to 2* my queen and her spin to win + skill slays 🔥

  • @-saikros-9330
    @-saikros-9330 2 роки тому +4

    I break shields with Huma then use shiro's skill mainly for damage, then just before it ends I launch both of samir skills so it receives the damage increase

  • @FlowCat
    @FlowCat 2 роки тому +2

    I build off meta in genshin, and what you're saying resonates with me a lot. I constantly tell viewers that meta is meta, but that doesn't make all other units suck. It's so great to see the developers improve the balance in the global version to make more variety possible.
    Great video my guy!

    • @Gilgamesh-em6ru
      @Gilgamesh-em6ru 2 роки тому +3

      tbh I find meta talk in genshin kind of pointless when any well invested team can beat any content in the game. there are very few instances where you're required specific class of characters to beat a boss or domain.

    • @FlowCat
      @FlowCat 2 роки тому

      @@Gilgamesh-em6ru i agree!

  • @eulers
    @eulers 2 роки тому +4

    I agree with Huma being at least A+ tier. Her and shiro were a bit underrated at launch. I got both before king, and when king dropped for me I was expecting a huge upgrade but was surprised how close they felt.

  • @DragoonX2
    @DragoonX2 2 роки тому

    2 questions...
    1. Whats the effect of instance buffs like say -65% flame dmg taken in hard frontier clash to shattering?
    2. Does the color of the shield matter? Like say i see a mob that makes a "red" shield...is it more resistant to flame...vs say another one that has a "blue" shield

  • @EforEvery1
    @EforEvery1 2 роки тому

    Great info.
    I am glad you put in a lot of work because majority of content creators just spread misinformation and make the community worse off via superficial tier lists based on CN or repeating what someone else said, not based in actual experience.
    I particularly appreciate you not ranking a character you haven't played enough. Because as everyone should know by now, the playstyle/combos are extremely unique to each character and they all have many finer details that are never mentioned in any tier lists.
    The aspects of the game are simple, but when combining all of them, complexity emerges.
    I appreciate you talking about the resource management (stamina use of Meryl clashing with other stamina users)

  • @GLICHyoutube
    @GLICHyoutube 2 роки тому +4

    I think King is ranked high not so much for fast shield breaking as for decent shield breaking and the damage he can do (c1, count passively deals damage if I'm not mistaken at 120% attack for 15 seconds while you're slicing Samir for example). Where the speed of passage is required, the shield King is a must-have

    • @kitsuchii6809
      @kitsuchii6809 2 роки тому

      Only way why king is there is that huma and meryl have tank rezo so sht for nemesis and samir duo

  • @DoingFavors
    @DoingFavors 2 роки тому

    Subscribed, absolutely love your theory crafting and stat review. Thanks for taking the time for this.

  • @Lalainnia
    @Lalainnia 2 роки тому +14

    Just want to add the character with the highest shatter tooltip is actually Hilda with a whooping 16%. Not the fastest breaker in practice but she does pretty well not to mention can discharge to her grab her shatter and normal attack buff 60% for 10 secs and just swap to another weapon. Plus shes pretty realistic to get to 6 stars with where we are atm in global. Shes also cc immune in her turret which could have some niche application somewhere potentially lol.

    • @boutinpowered8373
      @boutinpowered8373 2 роки тому

      Add 25% with Frigg and even more CC protection when out of turret.

    • @EurrikkeEdward
      @EurrikkeEdward 2 роки тому +1

      man I wish hilda was an SSR id be sitting on that turret AAALLL day

    • @kitsuchii6809
      @kitsuchii6809 2 роки тому

      Get meryl 6* + frig + hammer in one team you will forget hilda

  • @BG-vg5jd
    @BG-vg5jd 2 роки тому

    Omg. My QoL using King as shieldbreaker improved so much with that auto+auto+auto+charge technique. Now i'm thinking of making him C1. Thank you

  • @fegito9206
    @fegito9206 2 роки тому

    I started watching the video, but I am not sure at 2:22. My Lv 1 and lv 100 weapons have different attack scaling. I don't know at what level the difference started. Can you explain this? Because this is game changer to what you said

  • @mako_ichi
    @mako_ichi 2 роки тому +1

    Just my opinion as someone who has used shiro and king, shiro can be much better than king at 3* since it’s really helpful having her skill up when shattering. It’s also nice to add the spacetime rift relic with shiro to gather the enemies together and shatter all at once.
    I have yet to try the 3NC thing on the video for king but thank you so much for that info! ^_^

  • @malfunctioninghero
    @malfunctioninghero 2 роки тому +7

    I don't know how my experiences with this will translate into math of shield breaking, but Meryl's stamina consumption with her spin is actually incredibly easy to manage once you get around 1000 stamina on your account--
    --the strategy is you start with the spin until you run out of stamina and then immediately go into her skill and you just get your entire stamina bar back. I mention having 1000 stamina because earlier game her spin into skill wouldn't be enough to break most shields, but once you get to that 1000 stamina mark, you've generally destroyed most shields at the start of the skill and the rest of the skill ends up being pure aoe dps.
    It's both very satisfying and convenient for most fighting scenarios. I do want to mention using Meryl like this makes her very easy to use with a stamina-dependent dps because you will have full stamina at the end of her dps rotation.

    • @vuhaison2195
      @vuhaison2195 2 роки тому

      My team now is samir3(100), stu1(90) and meryl0(70), Could you help me the combo should I do? I also have king0 and huma0 and shiro0 but Im lack at resource. In the video he say a3c meen auto3 then chain or charge? a3m is what?

    • @malfunctioninghero
      @malfunctioninghero 2 роки тому

      @@vuhaison2195 The weapons you have seem good! I believe a3c = (a)uto (3) times, (c)harge attack. I would focus on leveling up Meryl if you enjoy using her, her being lvl 70 might make her damage seem worse until it's properly leveled up.
      In the wanderer's log chapter 7 you get a 4piece pepper matrix set, which I would recommend for your Tsubasa when you get that. My main team is Tsubasa, Meryl (or king depending), and Nemesis.
      For the team you mentioned, I would Tsubasa for stacks (especially if you have her awakening active as well)-- stacks being dodge attack for attack boost + skill, into meryl spin into meryl skill for shield break, into samir main dps. I don't use samir so I'm less familiar with her combos, but I know she uses stamina so I feel like this rotation should be smooth? I wish you the best of luck!

    • @avd3614
      @avd3614 2 роки тому

      @@malfunctioninghero Every Samir's move is lethal. Her combo usually, discharge, kills, auto, kills, auto, kills, charge, kills, jump, kills, dash, kills.
      Switch next char, then teabag for taunt.

    • @vuhaison2195
      @vuhaison2195 2 роки тому +1

      @@malfunctioninghero Thanks alot, by the way, about the strait, do I have to use that weapon on field (which own the strait) to active it? I mean could I stack up tsubasa strait by using samir attack? If have to be use Tsu, and its say that buff last for 30s, up to 15 , so each stacks have its own cooldown or it will reset to 30 (work same as her Adv 1)?
      About the stamina, Meryl is only for shatter so as you mentioned after spin to win, we use her skill for a while and recover some stamina before discharge to samir, hope that smooth.
      I got nemesis jsut now and wonder if I change to King nemesis and samir. My CS kinda low due to I dont have much material to level up gear. Using the echo set now for Tsubasa.

    • @malfunctioninghero
      @malfunctioninghero 2 роки тому

      @@vuhaison2195 You don't need to use the character for the simulacrum/awakening trait at all! I was worried about this also, and the english translation of the ability is very missleading. You can only have one s-trait available at a time though.
      The echo set is also good for tsubasa, you're doing well there! Nemesis will work well with your samir (because of nemesis' passive volt resonance), so if you wanted you could switch out tsubasa for her. I do think having 4 or so characters built up that you switch between is fine.
      You don't need to have perfect rotations/combos for a team to feel good playing, and so long as you're having fun and not feeling like either shields or low-charge weapons are holding you back, you're doing fine! I would recommend you level up king and nemesis a little bit (maybe 40 or 50) and see if you like how they play, and invest in the weapons you enjoy playing with.
      I'm happy if I was able to help at all! I hope you have fun playing :)))

  • @whatever0000
    @whatever0000 2 роки тому

    that was fast
    btw big fan of the streams I really like the vibes also the jacket look suits you

  • @teamkuletz2002
    @teamkuletz2002 2 роки тому +1

    Im using Shiro's combo but it not breaking the shield that fast. The enemy (mini boss) is already at half hp when the shield breaks.

  • @jaredkeenan9760
    @jaredkeenan9760 2 роки тому

    BRO THANK YOU!!!! IVE BEEN USING MY KING WRONG!! YOU SAVED ME!! THANK YOU SO MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

  • @olobmis
    @olobmis 2 роки тому

    a question (sorry for my English). Does 15% elemental damage affect armor destruction?

  • @reizerogaming1734
    @reizerogaming1734 2 роки тому +1

    I am the guy who suggest u for this video on ur Livestream...
    🙃🙃🙃
    Hello!!

  • @ThiagoJaqueta
    @ThiagoJaqueta 2 роки тому

    I feel like Shiro is really underrated, It's nice to see someone looking at her qualities.
    I got her A3 and don't regret it one bit, the CD Reset is it is extremely valuable, it allows you to spam more skills, mitigates her own long-ass CD, but also lets you use her Skill to both Break the shield, and then deal big damage right after (As long as you manage your Dashes correctly to bounce the Chakrams).
    I'll keep investing in her because I plan on pulling for Claudia, and they seem to synergize extremely well too.

    • @αιχ-β1ν
      @αιχ-β1ν 2 роки тому

      Good to see that someone actually enjoy character that like despite what any tier list says. Would you mind give me some advice about Shiro? I think of replacing King with Shiro and I'm just curious about her mechanics, team building etc.

  • @Erideah
    @Erideah 2 роки тому +3

    Having gotten Huma as my first 5*, I honestly felt really underwhelmed by King when I eventually got that. It has its use, sure, but Huma has insane charge and shatter. Since I ended up mainly tanking, I'm pretty much using Huma for the charge, frequent skill, and regular attack shattering, King or a healing weapon as pretty much burst and skill only, and Meryl spinning and skill. If I could go back in time, I'd probably be saved up and more invested in Balmung, to entirely bench King until I have a proper DPS offspec. Too awkward to change things around now until CS targets for the suppressor are hit

    • @hazelberry
      @hazelberry 2 роки тому

      Def agree here, King just feels like a worse Huma to me except he does have higher damage. Thing is I'd much much rather shatter faster to get rid of the 50% damage resistance from shields, instead of shattering slower but dealing more damage while shattering.

    • @ebenezerindi1766
      @ebenezerindi1766 2 роки тому +2

      @@hazelberry Not only Huma shatters faster but also charges even faster. You get fully charged after like 5-10 seconds.
      King got nothing on Huma except for a little more damage.

  • @saurlex1368
    @saurlex1368 2 роки тому +13

    I was using King, but I pulled c3 Shiro so I can reset skills when I shatter. So Shiro is now the real King.

    • @jezmoz3977
      @jezmoz3977 2 роки тому

      I don't like King's weapon Star... But the game give me king

  • @Azulinez
    @Azulinez 2 роки тому

    I have a C1 king, on the behemoths (the mobs that drop the right arm for the mount) I can break shields in 1 quick chain by doing a Dash attack -> Auto -> auto -> auto -> Auto 4 -> Charge -> auto

  • @wiredrayne
    @wiredrayne 2 роки тому

    I'm pushing 260+ Bygone with 6star Shiro and she is a fantastic shatter. You just have to play around her, making sure you expend all weapon charges, saving at least two dodges to Waning Moon during Full Moon, and unloading all your weapon skill resets for insane burst and massive weapon charge build up. The game play is very very fast paced and she instantly mirks any boss shield.

  • @remember8118
    @remember8118 2 роки тому

    Thanks, this really helpfull.. now I like Huma and Shiro even more..

  • @guntur2527
    @guntur2527 2 роки тому +2

    Huma weapon also generate tons of discharge point, it felts so good when you shattering while also raising your discharge point which mean more dps from another weapon discharge skill for your rotation. Compared to King, King felt so miserable to play on-field because his charge capability is so low and barely increase your discharge point.

    • @edychen4324
      @edychen4324 2 роки тому

      Really ruin my rotation if using king
      My discharge never refilled

    • @cartharax4308
      @cartharax4308 2 роки тому +2

      Thing i do with huma when i have discharge hungry characters is while in axe mode i make sure to double charge discharge before i use it

    • @skydinoy2260
      @skydinoy2260 2 роки тому +1

      I only use King’s discharge then switch back to huma

  • @JaredBerry
    @JaredBerry 2 роки тому

    Hey Lace, any chance you can help me pick out a team to focus on with my current simulacrum choices? I have Samir, Nemesis, Meryl, Huma, Shiro, Zero, and all epics to choose from. I've been playing Meryl, Shiro, Nemesis, but it doesn't feel super amazing and I'm not sure why.

  • @Jason93128
    @Jason93128 2 роки тому

    hi thr, im new to this game
    want to ask some question, now i got Samir 0* / Meryl 2* / Crow 1* (SSr box i choose Samir, bco lazy style)
    how can i plan my team for furture gameplay?

  • @HikariChanJr
    @HikariChanJr 2 роки тому

    ❤️ good explanation 👍

  • @tpayne3252
    @tpayne3252 2 роки тому

    You're an underrated youtube you explain things with simplicity but enough to get the point great video 👍👍

  • @Ramms23
    @Ramms23 2 роки тому

    Very good guide. I learned so much. Thanks

  • @crispy0326
    @crispy0326 2 роки тому

    I have currently Samir c1, king c0 and zero c0 at my team. (I hope to get nemesis) should I get c1 for king or another character to replace zero with. I could get kings c1 for the shop later too. (Can’t decide who to pic from the free Ssr box)

  • @MrJester6598
    @MrJester6598 2 роки тому

    One thing not really talked about is that shiro 3* can use her skill before breaking the shield and if you break the shield while using the skill you instantly reset the cooldown allowing you to use her skill again allowing for awesome dps. I am maining huma 4*, shiro 4*, and nemesis 6*. Using mainly shiro in joint operations for my dps i am topping the leaderboards on dps by over double regularly

  • @Coolica
    @Coolica 2 роки тому

    THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO! Finally someone does research on the subject of shatter instead of just saying "King" is the best.

  • @vibra7
    @vibra7 2 роки тому +5

    I wanna mention Meryl when partnered with Frigg, getting 30% bonus Shatter on the frost domain, would that shoot her up the list?

    • @sagansagan5395
      @sagansagan5395 2 роки тому +1

      Definitely. She will be, maybe, the best shatter in the game. At least a priori, we need to actually play to prove it

    • @ramza8355
      @ramza8355 2 роки тому

      Meryl goes SPEEEEEEN

    • @idi_nahuy666
      @idi_nahuy666 2 роки тому +1

      Are u sure? I think it's 25% and she will get 15 shatter

    • @jijiree3390
      @jijiree3390 2 роки тому +1

      even without frigg she's the best shield breaker, she's unstoppable

    • @idi_nahuy666
      @idi_nahuy666 2 роки тому

      @@jijiree3390 agreed

  • @AlejandroChavarriaAraya
    @AlejandroChavarriaAraya 2 роки тому +2

    I really like your videos, thanks for showing us many ways to play, can I ask u if there's a possibility to make a comparison of the permanent SSR character with 6 starts like a tier list

  • @user-ue6ur5nt5z
    @user-ue6ur5nt5z 2 роки тому

    Does smash attack from huma break more shield than the spin?

  • @iandiaz3417
    @iandiaz3417 2 роки тому

    I had 6* King, i tried that combo but the shielded enemy dies even it has half of its shield??

  • @dlvarcade9729
    @dlvarcade9729 2 роки тому +1

    Does King’s 5* increase damage to shield or just HP damage while a shield is up? I have 5* and the shields drop very fast

    • @FullchanAnon
      @FullchanAnon 2 роки тому

      Just HP damage while shield is up. How do you break shields with King? I personally dont want to use his dischagre or skill on shielded enemies because the ATK% ratings of them feels better of on the HP rather than wasting it on the shield (of course, that's irrelevant to you since all his attacks punch through at A5)

  • @redswords4295
    @redswords4295 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this video! I was so frustrated using king. But now that I know how to really break shields it's so much better that the stupid aerial attacks.

  • @user-ue6ur5nt5z
    @user-ue6ur5nt5z 2 роки тому +1

    Good thing I didn't succumb to the stupid tier lists youtubers made and just prioritized my own enjoyment on the weapons, I contemplated whether I should get king or huma in the ssr box because I really needed a shatter weapon and a fire weapon (for world exploration so I wouldn't have to use the bow anymore). And I chose huma because I believed that there is nothing coolor than a shield that transforms.

  • @mrrex470
    @mrrex470 2 роки тому +1

    So king 5star effect has no effect in shield breaking? Anyone has 5/6 star king to test, does it break shield faster than

  • @13thzodiac20
    @13thzodiac20 2 роки тому +1

    for me, 3* shiro is better shatter charracter than other 3* on std banner. her 3* increase your shatter by 15% and reset all skills on shield break( yes, all skill on all your 3 wep) so you can chain your long cooldown skill twice(like samir / coco), not to mention you can break the shield again as soon as enemy shield is up ( more or less 30 sec ) then do your combo again. don't forget shiro dodge attack bounce inside her skill up to 5 times, thats 9 chakram bouncing 5 times ( you can squeeze in 4th dodge, totaling in 12 chakram ) and your cd will reset. not to mention the ssr relic that make a copy of your character, skill, thats 24 chakram x5. and then reset all skill. its just crazy burst.
    but yes, she's really bad until she reach 3* ( been there, farming her is a pain in the ass ) because she's actually not relevant at all until she hit 3* where she can do most dmg.
    and shiro is great for heal team comp too, because you can reset your coco/zero skill, especially coco that takes whole 60 sec to be used again, so 2x coco skill back 2 back is really good for survival of your team.
    TL:DR shiro shatter rules.

  • @MythicMagus
    @MythicMagus 2 роки тому

    I have a question for you Lace. Does a monster's resistance/vunerability effect how easily you can break their shield?
    One of today's Joint Ops has Ice and Fire resistance. If I'm playing support and just want to bring something to help my team shatter what weapon is best to bring? Lv0 C1 Shiro, Lv80 C1 King or lv90 C0 Meryl? I have Huma as well, but she's also currently level 0. I haven't leveled Huma and Shiro yet because I already had similar units leveled to around 80 when I got them.

    • @AeriFyrein
      @AeriFyrein 2 роки тому

      From what I have seen, I believe it does affect how easily shields are broken.
      Given what this video has explained, I would assume that the resistances/vulnerabilities are essentially similar to the % damage numbers listed on the weapon sheets. For example, if the joint op has 50% fire resist and you use Huma to break shields, those 200%+ hits that she does would "effectively" be like doing 100%. Similarly, a 50% vulnerability would effectively turn those 200% hits into 300%.
      I absolutely could be wrong, but that's what it feels like in game to me.
      As for which weapon you should bring, the higher level and/or star value will give you better base stats, so your King or Meryl would be better than your Shiro or Huma. Which out of those two would probably be up to which one you have matrices in, and/or what resists/vulns are on the content you're doing.

  • @Zalvu
    @Zalvu 2 роки тому +3

    I have all 3 characters and King has nothing on Huma when it comes to shield break and Shiro is somewhere in between King and Huma.
    And Huma is perfectly paired with Crow because you basically have infinite discharge between those two.

  • @Vherax
    @Vherax 2 роки тому +2

    Magnetic Pulse relic gives you 5 seconds of hitstun immunity (with 35 second cooldown) - I use it whenever I switch to King for a shield break. It lets me do my aerial combo uninterrupted.

    • @αιχ-β1ν
      @αιχ-β1ν 2 роки тому +2

      If it is so that's smart and good trick. Thanks bro

    • @natoreyes7308
      @natoreyes7308 2 роки тому

      Won't you lose a dps relic slot though just to make it work? I would personally agree to use it if it's against the Frigg boss because she has a lot of cc which makes you lose dps if you didn't dodge.

    • @zRegicideTVz
      @zRegicideTVz 2 роки тому

      His aerial combo is auto x3 into charge?

  • @sloppycarrot8605
    @sloppycarrot8605 2 роки тому

    Very nice video thanks for making rational theory craft esque videos for tof
    your content is really nice especially in the sea of click bait youtube videos ranking characters and poorly theorycrafting

  • @silversage4397
    @silversage4397 2 роки тому

    Question:What about elemental resistance and weakness? Does that affect shattering performance?

    • @αιχ-β1ν
      @αιχ-β1ν 2 роки тому +1

      Yep it affect. You should avoid using the same type element as shield has to break it

  • @cartmaneric6970
    @cartmaneric6970 2 роки тому

    I have both king and huma at c1. Who shatters shield faster? More damage? Overall usefullness? will be running with Nemeses and Samir. Thanks

  • @saikei6382
    @saikei6382 2 роки тому

    shiro is so fun to use in bygone with hologram! i usually use 2* shiro/ 3* crow/ 1* nemesis for boss phases and replace crow with 1* samir during group phases

  • @GunShocka
    @GunShocka 2 роки тому

    Good video. Just wanted to note that the Hologram projector doesn't decrease your damage. The 35% damage is for the hologram itself. It only deals a portion of the damage you actually deal. If you read into its star activations by the time you get it to 6 it will allow the projection to deal 50% of the users damage. So you actually increase both your shatter capabilities and damage output

    • @Lace
      @Lace  2 роки тому

      Yeah I didn’t seem to articulate this well. I was trying to say that you would get 1.35x damage, but 2.0x shatter

    • @GunShocka
      @GunShocka 2 роки тому

      @@Lace Ya I figured as much I had a thought I was like you seem to know what it does but I think you just didn't say it correctly. Appreciate the response and keep up the good work!

  • @randompseudonym106
    @randompseudonym106 2 роки тому

    Yeah I got Huma as my 1st set of ssrs and she claaaps shields, and charges like crazy. She's also very fun to play

  • @kiwisploot1054
    @kiwisploot1054 2 роки тому

    I am currently looking for my 3rd in my team comp (I currently use huma, coco, and bai ling) I want to replace bai ling as I dont find myself using her much. Do you think I should replace her and if so, who should I replace her with?

  • @ossu7496
    @ossu7496 2 роки тому

    does attack matters for shatter? or it only depends on skill percentage and shatter point?

  • @isaac13d
    @isaac13d 2 роки тому +17

    I dunno, King was fun at low tier, but I could feel him getting less... Punchy in tougher content.
    Huma has stayed consistently decent with a great charge, I just think she has a better move set.

    • @aliki6653
      @aliki6653 2 роки тому

      yeah i dropped my 2 star king at level 80 because he wasn't giving me that much value compared to before

    • @KC_Smooth
      @KC_Smooth 2 роки тому

      Yeah I'm still using a 4* king, but I'm going to drop him soon for either Shiro or Huma

  • @TheIsahata
    @TheIsahata 2 роки тому

    Just got my 5th King star from black nuc, god damn the shield breaking is really nice

  • @The_Rum
    @The_Rum 2 роки тому +11

    While I generally agree with everything you’ve said. I think you’re forgetting what Huma adds that no other current shatterers don’t have is Humas ability to also charge weapon.
    It makes her gameplay very discharge heavy which is very satisfying.

  • @abahwiranta1412
    @abahwiranta1412 2 роки тому

    I have king, meryl, shiro, and huma on diff id. I compared them all. And huma still the most fastest shield breaker among them all. Now i knew why. Thank you for the video. 🤝

  • @inbrrr
    @inbrrr 2 роки тому

    Smash with Huma axeL to King discharge+skill rinse and repeat. Extremely satisfying.

  • @xkaiyt5026
    @xkaiyt5026 2 роки тому +1

    The problem with huma is if your squishy in coop play you will get the aggro to the boss while on shield completing yourr 3dodge atks.
    So if you dont have a tank in your team you pretty much aggro the boss all the way.

  • @ookanakka
    @ookanakka 2 роки тому

    Anyone know if resistance reduces shatter application? Like if I’m using King to shatter, but the boss has flame immunity/resistance, do I still apply shatter normally?

  • @skydinoy2260
    @skydinoy2260 2 роки тому

    Which is better @ shattering? 6⭐️ King w/ 2 Shiro Matrix or 1⭐️ Huma w/ 3 Sobek Matrix???

  • @VioletSteel13
    @VioletSteel13 2 роки тому

    This video is almost everything I wanted to know about shatter. Most people I ask basically go high shatter number = good
    Its nice to know for sure what affects shield breaking, however im still unclear about what shields actually do. Im expecting something simple like high damage reduction in the 70%+ area + deadlier attacks, but it would be nice to know for certain

    • @CasuallyHenry
      @CasuallyHenry 2 роки тому +1

      It seems to me that an opponent with a shield reduced damage dealt by about 50%, but the bigger issue is it makes them CC immune so your attacks won't interrupt theirs. Try using volt attacks on a non-boss opponent while shielded vs non-shielded and see the different effects. Non-shielded should get stunned.

  • @MrJedi515
    @MrJedi515 2 роки тому

    Everybody gangsta until Hilda (SR Terminator, "giant unusable gun") one ult shatters your shield completely.

  • @holy_cheater
    @holy_cheater 2 роки тому +1

    There's also a case of time limit. When you do some harder bosses (like Frontier Clash on hard or something) you have to shatter them quickly. I'm using Meryl as shatter and her spin-to-win just takes too long before boss charges.

  • @TheSkyshattered
    @TheSkyshattered 2 роки тому

    I have both 1* Meryl and 3* King, and from what I have experienced so far, although Scythe of the Crow really does shine when there are lots enemies clustered together, that's just it. In most situations, I found Rosy Edge to be more consistent and reliable and, most importantly, faster at shattering shields. I would really love to use Huma but I don't have her yet, and the reason why I got King to 3* is I pulled him once from using gold nuclei and twice from using black nuclei --- not even pity, and not sure if I should feel lucky or unlucky with that (lol). Maybe if they made his combos less prone to interruption I'd consider using him again, but for now I switched to using Meryl instead.

  • @mastercc4509
    @mastercc4509 2 роки тому

    Whats optimal for shatter for Meryl? I usually CA spin till mostly out of stamina then hit the E where the stamina will almost fully recover. Should I do an n2C instead?

  • @SkitZHitZ
    @SkitZHitZ 2 роки тому +6

    ive been a shiro user from the get go she is amazing
    what about his aerial spin, shame thing that crow does but he can spin i been spamming that for huge dmg and shatter
    p-s you can trial my shiro if you like but she is a 2 star

    • @M3nt4LC4t
      @M3nt4LC4t 2 роки тому

      aerial spin? you mean Samir?

    • @Bluetruewhat
      @Bluetruewhat 2 роки тому

      @@M3nt4LC4t crow dive attack make him spin. So u have to jump and jetpack hover then hold attack to do dive spinning attack

  • @yuukifenia1611
    @yuukifenia1611 2 роки тому

    The other variable is that Matrix sets add a LOT. Slap a Shiro + King set onto basically any unit and they become super good shatter. Stackable with Tank Reso as well!

  • @luzrayrulov3443
    @luzrayrulov3443 2 роки тому

    My current team is Meryl-Huma-Shiro coz that's the first 3 SSR the system gave me. I did notice that they are good in breaking shields. I usually use Shiro or Huma to decrease shield then use Meryl to last hit/break the shield cuz it gives me hp after breaking. I really like Huma and Shiro's playstyle so I kept them even if a lot of ppl are saying they're mid/meh.

  • @chaostitan5042
    @chaostitan5042 2 роки тому

    So basically the shatter percent doesn't matter and the higher the attacks' percent?

  • @badger0985
    @badger0985 2 роки тому

    Please do more videos like this! We need a tc community in tower of fantasy.

  • @sphaerah
    @sphaerah 2 роки тому

    I would like to add, that there is a niche combo that involves pummeler hammer with shiro combo, allowing her to reset her dashes and thus throw even more chakram into the circle. Combo that with a atleast C3 shiro that resets all your weapons cooldown on shattering, and you got yourself some big damage.

  • @tymagpoc6849
    @tymagpoc6849 2 роки тому

    Is Lin good for shatter in Attack Resonance?