Hey Doug! I went to a MF dealer (Watts Brothers Tractor in Columbia, MS) a couple weeks ago to get a part for my 231 and got to sit on several different tractors. I LOVE MASSEY FERGUSON. If I remember correctly, the 2604H and the 2605H has some differences. I also sat on the 1735M and 1740M.. LOVED BOTH!
Dang, Massey still makes these 2wd ag/utility tractors. Reminds me of my dad's 2005 431 with the 3.3l NA Perkins. Mostly my dad and I put almost 1000 hours on the tractor for the past 18 years. It's been a versatile, retro tractor looking, and fun piece of equipment to operate on a week to week basis like mowing and etc. From the looks of it, the transmission looks almost identical to the 431. Though, one thing to keep in mind is the hi/low gear are weak on the non synchro 8 speed 431 trannys which look familiar on this tractor. I'm not sure if they change anything on it. (Probably) Could be just the 431 and unfortunately ours tranny had just gone out😔. I like what massey did to this that the 431 doesn't have and really refined it to be a easier tractor to operate/maintain. I love these retro looking Massey's!!
Yes the 2600H series lives off the Legacy of the Massey Ferguson Legacy Models. And available in 2wd or 4wd configurations from 45 to 74 Engine HP. Many updates in have happened over the years to tweak the time proven transmission, hydraulics & rear end. Still runs the Ferguson Hydraulic & 3-Point System.
That was an excellent review. I watch a lot of tractor reviews trying to compare what I want. I have it down to this, a Mahindra 2545 or 2645 or a Kubota L4701
Thank You for taking the time to Comment. Best of luck finding your perfect tractor. We sell lots of these Massey Ferguson 2600H Series and customer just absolutely love them and reliability has been outstanding. That is one of Massey Ferguson added benefits if the after sales support from AGCO Parts & Service. If you ever need them we have tremendous resources to take care of our customers before during and most importantly many, many decades after the sale.
That is why we stock and sell several 2600H series tractors. Not everyone is looking for advanced features. Massey Ferguson offers 4 sizes in the 2600H Series and all are available as 2wd versions.
In 2008 they started offering both Perkins and AGCO Power (SISU Diesel) Engines in 5400 Series Tractors and the Performance, Fuel Efficiency, Lower Emissions and Reliability of the AGCO Power was started to been seen. Also CAT had purchased Perkins when AGOC purchased Massey Ferguson. That relationship went south after CAT ownership change and better performance and less emissions plu better fuel economy from the AGCO Power Engine they owned the switch began.
@@VahrenbergImplementmy padre had one of those ua-cam.com/video/Pa9T-vZFJHU/v-deo.html I'll assume that the gearbox would be at least very similar. And I don't remember he changed gears like that. He changed gears while tractor's traveling. For 30 years. No grindin.
Straight Gear Transmission is recommended to come to stop before shifting. Synchronized Transmission have synchronizers in them that allow shifting on the go. The 8x2 Transmission in 2600H is non-synchronized transmission and is recommended to stop before changing speeds or ranges.
Depends on Transmission Design and Synchronizers in the Transmssion. If it does not have Synchronizers the transmission needs to come to a stop. Some Transmission are Fully Synchronized and some are limited Synchronized like 3rd to 4th Gear has Synchronized. The Synchronized can be shifted on the mover.
Un digne descendant du Massey Ferguson 135 !!! Avec encore des freins a tambour !! Mais avec une direction assistée tout de même et un moteur moderne et les leviers de vitesses décalés sur les côtés du chassis très bien !!! Dommage que en France il ne soit pas commercialisé . En tout cas j'adore !!!!
Translate [A worthy descendant of the Massey Ferguson 135 !!! With still drum brakes !! But with a power steering all the same and a modern engine and the shift levers offset on the sides of the chassis very well !!! Too bad that in France it is not marketed. In any case I love it !!!!] Yes the 2604H is much a like the Legendary 135 but with modernized conveniences. Ask Massey Ferguson Customer Service in your region for that answer. I know they sell them in many countries around the world. Each region can choose the products they sell like France has models we don't offer in North America. 3700 Series is not offered here.
@@VahrenbergImplement la 3700 series n'a malheureusement plus rien a voir avec les 2600 h , châssis, Boite de vitesses ,Pont Ar sont totalement different. Oui les 3700 sont très modernes ! Mais pas solide et fiable comme les 2600 h ! Les 3700 sont également fabriqués pour d'autres marque de tracteurs (Landini …) et sont fabriqués en Italie. Avant les series 100 "Red Giant" été fabriqué en France jusqu'en 1986 ! Et après la production de tracteurs de se gabarits a été délocalisé en Italie avec de nouveaux modèles . Mais hélas pas aussi solide et fiable ... En France il reste l'usine de Beauvais ou sont encore fabriqué les gros modèles 4000 series et plus .. J'ai moi même un 135 vigneron de 1970 et un 158 Etroit de 1977. C'est 2 excellents tracteurs ont leurs descendant chez vous avec les 2604 h et 2605 h ! La chance !!!
Translate [the 3700 series unfortunately has nothing to do with the 2600 h, chassis, gearbox, rear axle are completely different. Yes the 3700 are very modern! But not solid and reliable like the 2600 h! The 3700 are also manufactured for other brands of tractors (Landini, etc.) and are made in Italy. Before the 100 series "Red Giant" was made in France until 1986! And after the production of size tractors was relocated to Italy with new models. But alas not as solid and reliable ... In France there is the Beauvais factory where the large 4000 series models and more are still produced. I myself have a 135 winegrower from 1970 and a 158 Narrow from 1977. C are 2 excellent tractors with their descendants at your home with the 2604 h and 2605 h! Luck !!!] I was just using the 3700 Series as example of a product sold in Europe not sold in North America. I do see that not all European Countries offer the 2600H. Turkey shows they offer 2600H series. I would request from AGCO Customer Service of France. They might not realize the market potential. Never hurts to ask. Thanks!
@@VahrenbergImplement Merci pour votre réponse ! On voit bien que vous êtes un vrais passionné de la marque !! En Turquie ils ont les 240 , 240 S qui oui eux aussi sont des descendants des series 100 !!! Avec des moteurs perkins 3 cylindres comme les 135 ! Il y a des videos ou on voit leur fabrication dans leurs usines …. Fonderie des carters , etc etc !! Incroyable et beau a voir !! Et au USA ils sont fabriquer sur place ou viennent d'Amérique du Sud ? ou Canada ?
Translate [Thank you for your reply ! We can see that you are a real passionate about the brand !! In Turkey they have the 240, 240 S which yes they too are descendants of the series 100 !!! With 3-cylinder perkins engines like the 135! There are videos where we see their manufacture in their factories…. Housing foundry, etc etc !! Amazing and beautiful to see !! And in the USA are they made on site or come from South America? or Canada?] 2600H are sourced from TAFE of India for North American Market.
All is well but back diffrential block runing alot of gears inside and excel tube are very thin and not strong enough..so both and block should be same enough strong like that of 2605 but equal in length in 2604...
Not sure what you are trying to discuss? Can you explain in better detail. This PowerTrain is not something new and been proven since the 100 Series Massey Ferguson Tractors.
2600 Series are built in India. TAFE Tractors which started as an Assembly Center back in the 100 Series days now is the 2nd Largest Tractor builder in India and they build the Massey Ferguson 2600 Series Tractors. Simpson is an engine manufacturer in India that has used Perkins blueprints to build engines. Both are long term suppliers. India is one of the largest markets in the world for tractor production as these size tractor. Here is a link on the History of TAFE: www.tafe.com/corporate/tafe-history.php
TAFE has expanded into the Chinese Market like Massey Ferguson and many other brands and are offering product for the Chinese Farmers too. There are huge benefits for companies that build product in China via reduced tariffs to compete more fairly in China. That is why AGCO built a plant there many years ago. Once they have manufacturing established it alos allow companies to import other products from other manufacturing facilities at reduced or no tariffs. Products from Jackson, Minnesota, Hesston Kansas, Beauvais France and other AGCO facilities are not being imported into China. Global Production in a variety of facilities is very common with just about every brand.
Hey Doug! I went to a MF dealer (Watts Brothers Tractor in Columbia, MS) a couple weeks ago to get a part for my 231 and got to sit on several different tractors. I LOVE MASSEY FERGUSON. If I remember correctly, the 2604H and the 2605H has some differences. I also sat on the 1735M and 1740M.. LOVED BOTH!
Id love one - brings back memories of Dad's 35.
It's pretty much a modernized 35/135 Massey Ferguson. Built on that Legendary Powertrain.
Dang, Massey still makes these 2wd ag/utility tractors. Reminds me of my dad's 2005 431 with the 3.3l NA Perkins. Mostly my dad and I put almost 1000 hours on the tractor for the past 18 years. It's been a versatile, retro tractor looking, and fun piece of equipment to operate on a week to week basis like mowing and etc. From the looks of it, the transmission looks almost identical to the 431.
Though, one thing to keep in mind is the hi/low gear are weak on the non synchro 8 speed 431 trannys which look familiar on this tractor. I'm not sure if they change anything on it. (Probably) Could be just the 431 and unfortunately ours tranny had just gone out😔.
I like what massey did to this that the 431 doesn't have and really refined it to be a easier tractor to operate/maintain.
I love these retro looking Massey's!!
Yes the 2600H series lives off the Legacy of the Massey Ferguson Legacy Models. And available in 2wd or 4wd configurations from 45 to 74 Engine HP. Many updates in have happened over the years to tweak the time proven transmission, hydraulics & rear end. Still runs the Ferguson Hydraulic & 3-Point System.
That was an excellent review. I watch a lot of tractor reviews trying to compare what I want. I have it down to this, a Mahindra 2545 or 2645 or a Kubota L4701
Thank You for taking the time to Comment. Best of luck finding your perfect tractor. We sell lots of these Massey Ferguson 2600H Series and customer just absolutely love them and reliability has been outstanding. That is one of Massey Ferguson added benefits if the after sales support from AGCO Parts & Service. If you ever need them we have tremendous resources to take care of our customers before during and most importantly many, many decades after the sale.
That is one awesome tractor wow
Thanks for the Comments and watching. It's a great tractor at a great price for those looking for heavy weight utility tractor.
Basic tractor, I like it very much.
No "useful" computer
Reliable manual transmission
No expensive 4wd
That is why we stock and sell several 2600H series tractors. Not everyone is looking for advanced features. Massey Ferguson offers 4 sizes in the 2600H Series and all are available as 2wd versions.
when did massey stop using the perkins diesel engine and why please?
In 2008 they started offering both Perkins and AGCO Power (SISU Diesel) Engines in 5400 Series Tractors and the Performance, Fuel Efficiency, Lower Emissions and Reliability of the AGCO Power was started to been seen. Also CAT had purchased Perkins when AGOC purchased Massey Ferguson. That relationship went south after CAT ownership change and better performance and less emissions plu better fuel economy from the AGCO Power Engine they owned the switch began.
Das ist ein super Traktor
First thing I noticed was it reminded me of the old reliable 100 series
Exactly the 2604H is like a 135 Massey Ferguson Modernized!
I need this tractor
Get to your local Massey Ferguson Dealer and they can make it happen!
@@VahrenbergImplement trector price .?
You need to talk Pricing with Your Local Dealer they are the ones who can help with that
what do you mean by: you have to stop to change gears?
Movement of the Tractor must stop and then Clutch Pushed in before making a Gear Selection Change or Change in Direction.
@@VahrenbergImplementmy padre had one of those ua-cam.com/video/Pa9T-vZFJHU/v-deo.html
I'll assume that the gearbox would be at least very similar. And I don't remember he changed gears like that. He changed gears while tractor's traveling. For 30 years. No grindin.
Straight Gear Transmission is recommended to come to stop before shifting. Synchronized Transmission have synchronizers in them that allow shifting on the go. The 8x2 Transmission in 2600H is non-synchronized transmission and is recommended to stop before changing speeds or ranges.
I have to stop my MF 165, 383 271XE before changing gears. I can shift from. 3rd high to 4th high on the 373 and 271xe while moving but that's it.
Depends on Transmission Design and Synchronizers in the Transmssion. If it does not have Synchronizers the transmission needs to come to a stop. Some Transmission are Fully Synchronized and some are limited Synchronized like 3rd to 4th Gear has Synchronized. The Synchronized can be shifted on the mover.
Why don't they sell these in the UK?
You would have to ask AGCO Representatives for your country.
you can get IMT it's the same thing made in Serbia
omg its like a modern MF35!
Yep it's a Modernized Version of the time proven features of the Massey Ferguson Legendary Models.
Un digne descendant du Massey Ferguson 135 !!! Avec encore des freins a tambour !! Mais avec une direction assistée tout de même et un moteur moderne et les leviers de vitesses décalés sur les côtés du chassis très bien !!!
Dommage que en France il ne soit pas commercialisé . En tout cas j'adore !!!!
Translate [A worthy descendant of the Massey Ferguson 135 !!! With still drum brakes !! But with a power steering all the same and a modern engine and the shift levers offset on the sides of the chassis very well !!!
Too bad that in France it is not marketed. In any case I love it !!!!]
Yes the 2604H is much a like the Legendary 135 but with modernized conveniences. Ask Massey Ferguson Customer Service in your region for that answer. I know they sell them in many countries around the world. Each region can choose the products they sell like France has models we don't offer in North America. 3700 Series is not offered here.
@@VahrenbergImplement la 3700 series n'a malheureusement plus rien a voir avec les 2600 h , châssis, Boite de vitesses ,Pont Ar sont totalement different. Oui les 3700 sont très modernes ! Mais pas solide et fiable comme les 2600 h ! Les 3700 sont également fabriqués pour d'autres marque de tracteurs (Landini …) et sont fabriqués en Italie. Avant les series 100 "Red Giant" été fabriqué en France jusqu'en 1986 ! Et après la production de tracteurs de se gabarits a été délocalisé en Italie avec de nouveaux modèles . Mais hélas pas aussi solide et fiable ... En France il reste l'usine de Beauvais ou sont encore fabriqué les gros modèles 4000 series et plus .. J'ai moi même un 135 vigneron de 1970 et un 158 Etroit de 1977. C'est 2 excellents tracteurs ont leurs descendant chez vous avec les 2604 h et 2605 h ! La chance !!!
Translate [the 3700 series unfortunately has nothing to do with the 2600 h, chassis, gearbox, rear axle are completely different. Yes the 3700 are very modern! But not solid and reliable like the 2600 h! The 3700 are also manufactured for other brands of tractors (Landini, etc.) and are made in Italy. Before the 100 series "Red Giant" was made in France until 1986! And after the production of size tractors was relocated to Italy with new models. But alas not as solid and reliable ... In France there is the Beauvais factory where the large 4000 series models and more are still produced. I myself have a 135 winegrower from 1970 and a 158 Narrow from 1977. C are 2 excellent tractors with their descendants at your home with the 2604 h and 2605 h! Luck !!!]
I was just using the 3700 Series as example of a product sold in Europe not sold in North America. I do see that not all European Countries offer the 2600H. Turkey shows they offer 2600H series. I would request from AGCO Customer Service of France. They might not realize the market potential. Never hurts to ask. Thanks!
@@VahrenbergImplement Merci pour votre réponse ! On voit bien que vous êtes un vrais passionné de la marque !!
En Turquie ils ont les 240 , 240 S qui oui eux aussi sont des descendants des series 100 !!! Avec des moteurs perkins 3 cylindres comme les 135 ! Il y a des videos ou on voit leur fabrication dans leurs usines …. Fonderie des carters , etc etc !! Incroyable et beau a voir !! Et au USA ils sont fabriquer sur place ou viennent d'Amérique du Sud ? ou Canada ?
Translate [Thank you for your reply ! We can see that you are a real passionate about the brand !!
In Turkey they have the 240, 240 S which yes they too are descendants of the series 100 !!! With 3-cylinder perkins engines like the 135! There are videos where we see their manufacture in their factories…. Housing foundry, etc etc !! Amazing and beautiful to see !! And in the USA are they made on site or come from South America? or Canada?]
2600H are sourced from TAFE of India for North American Market.
Wieso bekommt man denn nicht in Deutschland???
translate: "Why do not you get in Germany ???" You would need to ask Massey Ferguson Germany that question.
I WANT THAT TRACTOR DON HAVE A FARM BUT WHO CARES?😀
Don't have to have a farm to own a tractor :) There are many uses tractors can offer no farm owners too. Thanks for watching and commenting.
All is well but back diffrential block runing alot of gears inside and excel tube are very thin and not strong enough..so both and block should be same enough strong like that of 2605 but equal in length in 2604...
Not sure what you are trying to discuss? Can you explain in better detail. This PowerTrain is not something new and been proven since the 100 Series Massey Ferguson Tractors.
Simpson is engine made in India..maybe all this tractor is produced in India
2600 Series are built in India. TAFE Tractors which started as an Assembly Center back in the 100 Series days now is the 2nd Largest Tractor builder in India and they build the Massey Ferguson 2600 Series Tractors. Simpson is an engine manufacturer in India that has used Perkins blueprints to build engines. Both are long term suppliers. India is one of the largest markets in the world for tractor production as these size tractor. Here is a link on the History of TAFE: www.tafe.com/corporate/tafe-history.php
@@VahrenbergImplement 2600 series is alsow produced in Manisa Turkey with simpson engines
@@VahrenbergImplement ua-cam.com/video/GLx6g1Mr0K8/v-deo.html
North America does not use any of the Turkey build Product. Only the India built product is sold in the USA.
TAFE has expanded into the Chinese Market like Massey Ferguson and many other brands and are offering product for the Chinese Farmers too. There are huge benefits for companies that build product in China via reduced tariffs to compete more fairly in China. That is why AGCO built a plant there many years ago. Once they have manufacturing established it alos allow companies to import other products from other manufacturing facilities at reduced or no tariffs. Products from Jackson, Minnesota, Hesston Kansas, Beauvais France and other AGCO facilities are not being imported into China. Global Production in a variety of facilities is very common with just about every brand.