Honestly the passive for burning mana would be such a cool idea to put on Galio. He's literally a mountain of petricite, it would make sense he just passively absorbs magic around him.
Never happening. Riot got rid of all mana burn by end of season 1 and have never even entertained it again like they have with hybrid items. LoL will never have real strategic depth.
true. according to lore, his R is simply calling on the power of.... kayle, the winged protector of demacia. same as a prist will pray to a god, and he is so devoted to bring justice, so kayle answer his prayer to smite his enemies
think of it like clerics/paladins vs wizards/sorcerers in D&D. Kayle is Divine, her powers do not originate from chaos, like magic does, but order. Garen is effectively a paladin, harnessing the divine power given to him by his patron. it is not magic- it is channeling divinity.
@@SylvisNuvaraThe thing is that everything in Runeterra with powers exist in base of one of 3 major magics, Celestial Magic, Elemental Magic and Spirit Magic, Kayle is part of the celestial one, as Morgana.
@@MeLlamoBauti it should be -5% current mana and not max mana, but other than that its fine. Only half of toplaners if not less have mana, and 5% less mana every 3rd attack isn't that much, it just means you have to be more careful with your spells and spacing.
@@mahatmaniggandhi2898they're in one time projectile block, should have health so auto attacks don't easily destroy them. Additionally it actually gives Garen something to think about using, for himself? Or for his team? The passive i like aswell were it should be changed for current mana so garen while isn't inetly using up reasources entirely is atleast making ylu have to be careful with pacing. Against Manaless champions it instead deals additonal Judgement damage(Magic damage).
@@conscripthornet4430 it's a videogame where a mushroom planted by an overgrown squirrel can kill a dragon-god that destroys solar systems and galaxies for breakfast, if the authors say that's not magic, that's not magic. It's not an opinion.
lore-wise, Garen isn't using any magic... his armor is made of magic-nullifying (rather, magic "absorbing") material In his R, you can see him kneel... he's praying to Kayle, the Goddess of Justice. Kayle recognized Garen as "worthy", thus answering to his prayer anytime he asks, no questions asked. It's the Kayle's sword that smites the enemy.
the passive is such a unique skill i love it. i hope they put this on garen or another champ. im a mage player and even though this would be good against literally everyone i play i think it's a very thematic and interesting ability.
For those who don't know, Garen's ult is him asking for the help of the aspect of Justice, meaning Kayle. It's Kayle's blade that falls down from the sky.
@@bahemzki Well, that isn't completely true, even though I said it. Champion abilities are loosely based on their lore, mages do magic, warriors hit you with big fucking swords, there's a certain level of coherency between a champion's lore and their kit.
Fun fact: the lore explanation for Garen’s ultimate is that it is Kayle who is casting it. Garen is literally getting the “God” of Demacia to smite his enemies
when urf mixed with doom bots that one of the enemy team has a mage and you have a predator plus ghost with youmuus and boots of swiftness with the items that grants you movespeed be like: 0:11
Adc when they have to wait 4 seconds to do damage even thought they are safe and can just walk back(the instant it ends they will 2 shot Gwen because she has no stun or good engage options that allow her to do anything)
@@Arthur_Netto-Luana_Fox Yes because Gwen's target is not the ADC. Gwen is a tank destroyer. You get in range of the enemy tank and destroy them while enemy ADC and APC can't damage you in your W.
That passive could definitely be worked into to become part of normal garen (not with those stats of course, but something of the sort). The spending mana giving movement speed, that could be worked into his Q for example, his Q movement speed is stronger for every ability cast nearby within the last 5 seconds and burns x% of enemy mana. Some stuff of the sort, would be interesting and fit the character.
yeah that was like the old URF Garen one lol . I was expecting his doombot E would be larger radius and will airborne enemies like what Wukong's ult does 🤣
for the E skill demonstration, you should put 3 targets on one side of garen instead of 1 target on the left and right. This way, you can better show his increasing E ranges with levels. As the ranks improve, 1 more target would now take damage.
I just found your channel. Are you sharing what riot is working on, creating new ideas, or both in this video? From a programming perspective, looks cool being allowed to do something like this
You just made me think of what it woukd take to make a syoas doom bot. Perhaps he just takes the ult of the player and just turns it into a doom bot version, or he just gets a random ukt he teies to use immediately every 30 seconds. Or both!
My vision of doom bot Garen: • Passive: OG effect + Upon receiving magic damage, heal 8% max Health in 3 sec, cd 15 sec. • Q: OG effect + erase all slows and incoming slows effect for the next 1 sec, burned 15~35 mana/energy of the target. • W: OG effect + Stores 100% of post-mitigation damage taken as grit on his resource bar up to 30% of max Hp. Consume Grit for extra shield, when the shield is consumed or perished, reduce Passive cd by 5 sec. • E: OG effect + enemy with armor reduction received extra 1% max Hp per spins as physical damage. • R: OG effect + now dealing extra physical damage to surrounding enemy champions that use mana/energy. Extra damage caculation is as follow: Grit × (1 + 0.5 × (1 - %mp/energy remain))
Garen if he was released in 2023
SO TRUE!!
Why are you saying that like he isn't the highest winrate top laner
@@leviathan8282in what elo bro
@@CharisSem mb mb it's not him malphite beats him, both equally braindead champs
@@CharisSem also it's in emerald
I love how the passive is just Garen's racism being turned up
Garen: Lux … you aren’t a mage … are you?
Lux: … are you one?
Garen: Shit she’s on to me!
garen dont use magic he just use one of kayle swords
@@conorgenesis7820 So she’s the magic user
Well
@@conorgenesis7820it’s not Kayle’s sword. He is “blessed” with her powers
@@thenightqueen0yea, Garen is basically a paladin, drawing power from his god to empower himself and all that jazz.
Riot: we are slightly buffing Garen to get him in line with other modern champions.
Riot buffing Garen:
Honestly the passive for burning mana would be such a cool idea to put on Galio. He's literally a mountain of petricite, it would make sense he just passively absorbs magic around him.
Anti mage passive
@@argumentumadhominem3977 I was thinking more of him draining peoples mana when he's near them rather than on-hit like Anti-mage.
makes seraphs/tear a necessity for mages or bruisers just dont get to use spells against him
Wow maybe 1 new champ from Demacia who is the mage seeker that have anti mage skillset
Never happening. Riot got rid of all mana burn by end of season 1 and have never even entertained it again like they have with hybrid items. LoL will never have real strategic depth.
Garen's ult at rank 3 looks like it would just straight up execute you from full
You and everybody you hold dear*
Oh Im a Mage-main, he already does....the Motherducker already does..
@@saiky4686 bonk :)
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not?
my interpretation was that it suns you, so even if the execute didn't kill you team would finish them off
two types of people:
"i have garen ult on q"
"i have camille q"
Cleary Garen grabbed a few swords and slams them into his enemies, no way it's magic
true. according to lore, his R is simply calling on the power of.... kayle, the winged protector of demacia. same as a prist will pray to a god, and he is so devoted to bring justice, so kayle answer his prayer to smite his enemies
@@sensitive0198I thought he just yeeted a bunch of swords in the air and suspends them until he calls them on demand.
@@thevault1134 thats what Garen mains think he does lol
@@thevault1134QUINCY REFERENCE
@@sensitive0198 I am a Garen Main but I know his lore very well. Guess not all Garen mains thinks the same
I find it amusing that Garen's ultimate is just him calling forth the magic from Kayle's blade.
It’s kayle’s blade not kayle’s magic after all..
@@indhira104 yep
think of it like clerics/paladins vs wizards/sorcerers in D&D.
Kayle is Divine, her powers do not originate from chaos, like magic does, but order.
Garen is effectively a paladin, harnessing the divine power given to him by his patron. it is not magic- it is channeling divinity.
@@SylvisNuvaraThe thing is that everything in Runeterra with powers exist in base of one of 3 major magics, Celestial Magic, Elemental Magic and Spirit Magic, Kayle is part of the celestial one, as Morgana.
@@indhira104 even if thats not magic, how does he let her know he needs a blade? They got no text messages he 100% using magic to contact her
Garen if he used his sword properly:
Garen if he cared to listen to Sylas
@@Aleksandr_TararinGaren if Mageseeker wasn't Sylas game
@@gabrielaragon9562 Still worth it tho
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😅😅😊
@@lightningblade3352 it's not about mana, it's about Magic
actually the passive is really good, i wish they'd add this
It's just like Rek'sai W but better, I wonder what would doom bots Rek'sai do.
That would make laning against them quite annoying, like literally no counterplay you can't use your skills lol
@@MeLlamoBautiyou will be fine if your not a ranged toplaner, so maybe it’s a good thing lol
@@MeLlamoBauti it should be -5% current mana and not max mana, but other than that its fine. Only half of toplaners if not less have mana, and 5% less mana every 3rd attack isn't that much, it just means you have to be more careful with your spells and spacing.
@@kalfkeith5646More like Warwick W
For his E I was hoping that the enemirs would get stuck on the sword and be twirled around
Funny haha
I expected more beyblades...3 garens spinning around xD
maybe more dps as it levels up or a slight pull kinda like rell's ulti but softer
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😅😅
That's just garen during the boss fight in mageseeker
As a garen main I wouldn't mind this change
For real his aa passive and his W creating shields could be added in this game.
I really like the W
that would be op but the mana burner one would be viable
the w is broken
@@mahatmaniggandhi2898they're in one time projectile block, should have health so auto attacks don't easily destroy them.
Additionally it actually gives Garen something to think about using, for himself? Or for his team?
The passive i like aswell were it should be changed for current mana so garen while isn't inetly using up reasources entirely is atleast making ylu have to be careful with pacing.
Against Manaless champions it instead deals additonal Judgement damage(Magic damage).
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😅😅
Could do like the Garen in cinematic. Giant Sword hit the ground and break into another realm.
Okay, the passive is neat, but what about the energy champions? I mean, Zed and Kennen are definitely using magic.
J4
they're actually techniques, Kennen found them through practice and Zed learn it from a scroll
@@nguyenquoccuongto6379Kennen’s lightning casts are definitely magic bro
@@conscripthornet4430, nuh uh. It's energy of chi bro.
@@conscripthornet4430 it's a videogame where a mushroom planted by an overgrown squirrel can kill a dragon-god that destroys solar systems and galaxies for breakfast, if the authors say that's not magic, that's not magic. It's not an opinion.
lore-wise, Garen isn't using any magic... his armor is made of magic-nullifying (rather, magic "absorbing") material
In his R, you can see him kneel... he's praying to Kayle, the Goddess of Justice. Kayle recognized Garen as "worthy", thus answering to his prayer anytime he asks, no questions asked.
It's the Kayle's sword that smites the enemy.
Abilities changing with their lvl actually feels like you are lvling up. Would be nice for all champs but mostly those without evolution.
Play dota 2
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😅😅
the passive is such a unique skill i love it. i hope they put this on garen or another champ. im a mage player and even though this would be good against literally everyone i play i think it's a very thematic and interesting ability.
Dude can smell magic on da rift
"Ignorant of the very magic you carry into battle. How Demacian."
For those who don't know, Garen's ult is him asking for the help of the aspect of Justice, meaning Kayle. It's Kayle's blade that falls down from the sky.
I know that League's lore is a mess and that lore doesn't influence gameplay at all, but how come Garen can damage Kayle with his ult?
@@geli95us you literally answered your own question.
>>lore doesn't influence gameplay
@@bahemzki Well, that isn't completely true, even though I said it. Champion abilities are loosely based on their lore, mages do magic, warriors hit you with big fucking swords, there's a certain level of coherency between a champion's lore and their kit.
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😅😅
His R should create a shockwave like aurelion sol's ult.
You forgot the part where his q makes him unstoppable and gives him 500 extra ms for about 10 seconds
THIS IS SO COOL!!! I love the use of AE and the in-game effects!
Garen sprinting against the mage Graves while Viego being totally undetected when using his mist powers
Garen is that elden ring player that swears faith is not just magic with extra steps.
"The fact that you're on summoner's rift, doesn't that mean you're here because of a mage?"
Garen: *Attacks Riot games
so you made garen a blonde sniffing speed demon that knows spinjitzu
Something about the mental image of Garen on all fours running like a blood hunting Warwick straight for the nearest mage terrifies me.
I with his hatred for magical human I'm sure that Garen would be a great cop in real life
"Suspect is armed with a wand and might be on magical herbs"
The Mageseeker game revealed that he has kinda changed his ways
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😮
Fun fact: the lore explanation for Garen’s ultimate is that it is Kayle who is casting it. Garen is literally getting the “God” of Demacia to smite his enemies
Garen when he calls out the name of his sword for the first time
I haven't taken a shower since christmas, now i am a mage.
Garen be like: I hate magic
while summoning A FUCKING GIANT SWORD
Чувствовать магию должен Сайлас. Гарен это защитник а не охотник на магов
I honestly think Garen needs this buff… to keep up with 200 years
when urf mixed with doom bots that one of the enemy team has a mage and you have a predator plus ghost with youmuus and boots of swiftness with the items that grants you movespeed be like: 0:11
Some parts of this should honestly just be part of his normal kit tbh.
Full level E must airborne the enemy i guess…
When I saw the giant Kayle sword during the maxed E I spit my drink out.
Garen pray ALL Days for use It XD
Silencer from DOTA:
"Write that down!"
Garen be sprinting to Lux bedroom at night sometimes....
They're siblings.
crownguard you always hate magic but you realise the best way to defeat magic is to use magic
Finally... Competitively Viable Garen...
Garen sniffing them kata Q's from across the map
Omg that level 5 w gave me wiplash to the minecraft mod wand from twlight forest hahaha, cool video tho :D
Okay okay, could I perhaps ask for Kindred next time?
That spin looks nuts
When you realize even with this version of Garen's W, Gwen's W is still more broken 💀
Adc when they have to wait 4 seconds to do damage even thought they are safe and can just walk back(the instant it ends they will 2 shot Gwen because she has no stun or good engage options that allow her to do anything)
@@Arthur_Netto-Luana_Fox Yes because Gwen's target is not the ADC. Gwen is a tank destroyer. You get in range of the enemy tank and destroy them while enemy ADC and APC can't damage you in your W.
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😅😅
bro turned into the lich from twilight forest
Garen are just ice and snowballs, I SWEAR!! 🥶
This looks understandably balanced from riots point of view
I imagine a league with all the DOOM BOT champions, that would be cool
garen: DEMACIA
also garen : I CAN SMELL EVERYTHING
ALSO GAREN: FACE THE WIND
That passive could definitely be worked into to become part of normal garen (not with those stats of course, but something of the sort).
The spending mana giving movement speed, that could be worked into his Q for example, his Q movement speed is stronger for every ability cast nearby within the last 5 seconds and burns x% of enemy mana.
Some stuff of the sort, would be interesting and fit the character.
But if the other team dont have champs with mana? Xd the passive its useless not? 😮
@@lightningblade3352 what if you have a slow and Yi is on the enemy team?
Not everything needs to work 100% against every champion
I’m surprised his max q didn’t also permanently surprrss the enemy
Shoulve made him run on all fours when he smells magic
Riot PLEASE give this man a job
You should do quick combo with every doom bot champ at the end of the video. That would be cool
This is exactly what dota adds with talents, and aghs upgrades
Was expecting the max rank doombot E to make him perpetually spin and move at faster speeds. URF Garen style.
yeah that was like the old URF Garen one lol . I was expecting his doombot E would be larger radius and will airborne enemies like what Wukong's ult does 🤣
It would be lit if he transported someone into the golden sword dimension like in that greek gods anime
for the E skill demonstration, you should put 3 targets on one side of garen instead of 1 target on the left and right. This way, you can better show his increasing E ranges with levels. As the ranks improve, 1 more target would now take damage.
lore accurate garen
Sence. 💀Come on, bro, there's spell checking everywhere... no pun intended.
So basically Garen can smell his sister's scent too....
Garen towards lux
Snuff out the light
Garen's ult in Mageseeker be like
Imagine getting hit with Q then R at max levels, instant execution.
Garen would literraly be mage hunter from dota 2 if he was launched this year, mana break and all
Nobody talks about this enhanced W.. This is FIRE ! Imagine an armor like the Urgot legs but with pieces of armor
Okay but the w is actually a really cool idea
W as channeled ability would be good, also an %hp or even %missing mana R execute. Also, the VFX on lvl3 E is nuts here
Fiora: Yes-yes press w on every my r
I just found your channel. Are you sharing what riot is working on, creating new ideas, or both in this video? From a programming perspective, looks cool being allowed to do something like this
These are just edits lol, really good ones.
They're more like fan made concepts and not really tied to anything official. Its just for fun
The day riot givings Garen a better kit is the day I burn my pc
lore accurate
At night he can smell 2 smells twisting around 😂
Ah that's dark btw 😂
so garen can smell trundle if he bits someone
When Spinning is not enough
if they added this feature on garen he'd be perma banned
could be like like an Ult thing? a secondary part to his abilities during ult
This reminds me of that one Blue Archive meme about Swimsuit Ui and her sweat particles
I was expecting Garen's Ultimate is Mixed with his Ultimate but bigger and Galio's Knockback Ultimate.
That would have finally countered Singed so hard
The fact that it's Ezreal is perfect
1:33 for a second there I thought his W would redirect Ezreal's Q like Anti mage
It's not magic and Garen isn't truly a resource-less champ: his resource is *JUSTICE* .
Garens ult is one of kayles swords right when shes ulting
Why his passive is not named "the call of racism"
rank 3 ulti just outright kills your target and everyone around them in a 350 unit redius
You just made me think of what it woukd take to make a syoas doom bot. Perhaps he just takes the ult of the player and just turns it into a doom bot version, or he just gets a random ukt he teies to use immediately every 30 seconds. Or both!
his auto 0:34 kinda quite similar to Counter Helix by Axe from Dota 1 genius idea ngl
My vision of doom bot Garen:
• Passive: OG effect + Upon receiving magic damage, heal 8% max Health in 3 sec, cd 15 sec.
• Q: OG effect + erase all slows and incoming slows effect for the next 1 sec, burned 15~35 mana/energy of the target.
• W: OG effect + Stores 100% of post-mitigation damage taken as grit on his resource bar up to 30% of max Hp. Consume Grit for extra shield, when the shield is consumed or perished, reduce Passive cd by 5 sec.
• E: OG effect + enemy with armor reduction received extra 1% max Hp per spins as physical damage.
• R: OG effect + now dealing extra physical damage to surrounding enemy champions that use mana/energy.
Extra damage caculation is as follow: Grit × (1 + 0.5 × (1 - %mp/energy remain))
Just reminded me how busted pantheons old passive was with that w ngl
I think W should shoot the spells back at you, and maximum ultimate should create a Sky's descend shockwave
for the ultimate u should take a look on confiteor of ff xiv paladin's i think could be a cool inspiration, not magic at all