Manas are mechanically overpowered. This is obvious from a design standpoint and it means no numbers nerfs will ever really fix them. They should have been locked to extinction upon release, but TBF, owls are very nearly as bad, and gasbags and velos aren't all that far behind owls, nor are gachas but for entirely different reasons... effectively all extinction-specific dinos should never have been transferrable off of extinction, they're all broken-OP pieces of trash.
@@erndeche1475 Manas are mechanically overpowered in that they can compete with pretty much every tame in the game even when they are in their ideal position eg: flyers in the air, bloodstalkers on the water or on a wall. The other tames are nowhere near close, because they have very apparent weaknesses which can be exploited. The Managarmr is a jack of all trades, master of all.
@@RevPVP Yeah, that's what is meant by mechanically overpowered. It's a scout/CC/brawler and first or second best dino in the game at each of these roles individually. It can't pick, heal, enhance vision, or fit in tight spaces or genesis maps, but half of that is covered by owls. We're only lucky there wasn't a new picking dino with extinction.... Oh hi Genesis Spider.
Basically, if you're playing official PvP, chances are half the dinos in the fight or more have a way to PERMANENTLY CC you that can be applied in about one second flat. Don't ever be caught outside of flame-dashing in a PvP situation unless it's literally just enemy foot PvPers.
That is interesting, pretty cool. Bet you could do it with a torch and with my melee it might heal it pretty fast. Assuming it isn't level 30 cloner and hasmore than 2000 health you can definitely make good use of that.
On a PvE server, I had a high level pheonix, and I used to go into the SE wyvern trench to burn up all the wyverns there for fun (charge ignite has an insane range for sure) never considered trying in PvP though lol
most cloner phoenixes are trash level, 5-20 ish because it's fairly cheap to clone. A pvp cloner around level 150-200 is gonna run you around 400 ele to start the cloner. Source: I tamed a 120 phoenix that came out at 172 for pvp and it costs 39880 shards to start the cloner at level 172. Somewhere around level 205-220 they become so expensive they're unclonable because you can't fit the shards in the cloner anymore. on the upside, that 172 starts its life with 4.8k health, 1,300 stam, and 511 weight, and can be leveled up to about 25k health if that's what you want.
Thylacs can pin down a theri or even just pick off the rider then bleed and comp them to death. you were planning deinonychus and thylac if i remember right so thought i might add some things Deino jump can be charged even while sprinting, when clinging onto a wall WASD only makes your jumps super laggy as the jump is only just aimed with your mouse so you can get aloot of height and distance.
Since the moth one I was so hyped to see what he did and phenix was kinda boring but I wasn’t expecting to to be that good so respect also I kinda wanna see enforcer or thyla or moose or any land tames tbh
yea phoenix was pretty boring tbh but all the others were great, phoenix didn’t really get enough kills and the kills it did get, he didn’t even show off the kits. but he still boss
tame up a quick low level icthy, the saddle is cheap and they are a quick raw meat tame which is a lot easier than building a whole base to store ur loot in, so it’s worth besides for esp..
At first I used a megalodon I tamed which I regretted, I'm probably retarded for trying that. Definitely go with an ichthy or my favourite, a baryonyx. Baryonyx is slow but you also have a capable PVP mount and it can dispatch anything that might attack you on the way down.
@@RevPVPthx for the advice but like where do u get the ichty like u have a new one everytime, cuz what I assume is just putting all my stuff in the vault then logging off
@@RevPVP yo I literally got the idea cos I saw a kid doing it solo w a bat heavy and he picked a kid on a mana and a kid on a giga. Just try it out and then tell me it sucks
Amazing video Rev, like always. have you tried Rock drake pvp, i really like them and when gliding if you dash to the ground it can deal damage. I never got to master it but it would be nice to see some Rock drake PVP.
10s burns for 9% health each second, capping at 100 health/tick, and bottoming at 12 health/tick, IIRC. Pretty much if you can dash into someone and then get a peck onto them after 1-2 ticks, they'll die unless they have some way to heal fairly fast. Teksuiters or people parachuting are prime targets, can't heal yourself while in the air.
Rev u made me want that thing! I already tried to tame one but didnt find one. What level was that Phoenix and which stats u leveled? Idk how that think works lol
Hey guys I hope you all enjoyed this one, it took a lot of time to find clips for this tame.
Also, 13:11 kinda slaps don't it?
Nice vid. Procoptodon next. My sons favorite mount lol
Maybe a trope next?.
@@thingymingy5015 Done that before, check some of my other videos. I have 3 on the tropeo I believe.
You should do a video on theriz
next mabe a frog lol
Phoenix should be immune to freezing from manas and owls like it’s legit on fire. It would balance out the meta.
Yeah they totally should huh?
Manas are mechanically overpowered. This is obvious from a design standpoint and it means no numbers nerfs will ever really fix them. They should have been locked to extinction upon release, but TBF, owls are very nearly as bad, and gasbags and velos aren't all that far behind owls, nor are gachas but for entirely different reasons... effectively all extinction-specific dinos should never have been transferrable off of extinction, they're all broken-OP pieces of trash.
@@erndeche1475 Manas are mechanically overpowered in that they can compete with pretty much every tame in the game even when they are in their ideal position eg: flyers in the air, bloodstalkers on the water or on a wall. The other tames are nowhere near close, because they have very apparent weaknesses which can be exploited. The Managarmr is a jack of all trades, master of all.
@@RevPVP Yeah, that's what is meant by mechanically overpowered. It's a scout/CC/brawler and first or second best dino in the game at each of these roles individually. It can't pick, heal, enhance vision, or fit in tight spaces or genesis maps, but half of that is covered by owls. We're only lucky there wasn't a new picking dino with extinction.... Oh hi Genesis Spider.
This channel is so fucking underrated I finally get to see someone use the Phoenix and it makes me feel so happy to see that it’s actually good
Pvp on a frog 🐸 Loving the content bro
That's pretty normal XD
Once a frog saved me from a raid by knocking out a mama it’s pretty op
Frog PVP is very common -_-
pvp on raptor, you can pick with them. Ferox, can also stun and dismount. Enforcer is also very intresting.
Ferox aren’t a weird tame they are used for pvp quite often but you don’t see em that often as just general pvp
I like the sound of enforcer
The enforcer now..... that’s sounds nice 😂
@@lifelinedoesark5434 no ppl dont rlly us them for pvp i dont think i usually only see ppl use them in raid deffences but never like open pvp
@@victorop9412 thats cause they need ele and they run out
Yesssss this is exactly what I wanted to see, thank you rev
With the new pvp meta you really need to do this again!! I just got destroyed by a phoenix and voidwyrm, so OP
Enjoying these ones. Good job!
Your music choices were perfect for these shenanigans. :)
4:10 hey that’s me! :)
I think revs New Years resolution should be daily uploads for a month😳
I support this motion
Then it's lower quality :(
@@RevPVP dam
@@RevPVP I don't care uwu, I just need to hear your voice.
@@Krugster cringe
Imagine having a 225 phoenix in pvp
Would be so op
Got a 235, a 172 leveled up actually. It has its moments, but it has some glaring secret weaknesses too.
Basically, if you're playing official PvP, chances are half the dinos in the fight or more have a way to PERMANENTLY CC you that can be applied in about one second flat. Don't ever be caught outside of flame-dashing in a PvP situation unless it's literally just enemy foot PvPers.
if you take flame arrows / flame thrower you can heal it by shooting it
we used phoenix for pvp classic season 1
That is interesting, pretty cool. Bet you could do it with a torch and with my melee it might heal it pretty fast. Assuming it isn't level 30 cloner and hasmore than 2000 health you can definitely make good use of that.
@@RevPVP no, because torch give melee damange too, you propably only kill your tames XD
@@corsaro2645 The torch fire does not scale from melee sadly
@@RevPVP yep, the fire damnage is the same.
Cool
On a PvE server, I had a high level pheonix, and I used to go into the SE wyvern trench to burn up all the wyverns there for fun (charge ignite has an insane range for sure) never considered trying in PvP though lol
Rev Bro, what is your "ini water" o-o??
I told my tribemates i wanted to troll on Phoenix. Who knew they were actually viable :O I need that 150 phoenix tame now.
Just go and by a Clone we have to many of them
most cloner phoenixes are trash level, 5-20 ish because it's fairly cheap to clone. A pvp cloner around level 150-200 is gonna run you around 400 ele to start the cloner. Source: I tamed a 120 phoenix that came out at 172 for pvp and it costs 39880 shards to start the cloner at level 172. Somewhere around level 205-220 they become so expensive they're unclonable because you can't fit the shards in the cloner anymore.
on the upside, that 172 starts its life with 4.8k health, 1,300 stam, and 511 weight, and can be leveled up to about 25k health if that's what you want.
Loved this so much 😂
Big fan civic drop a new vid man
Same
CIVIC just so you know I’m not a fan and I hate your content I am not like these 2 simps I am more like adam johnson
BHAH I’m not a simp cause you don’t like someone’s vids u did not have to respond this just shows u are a brat
This was so fun when you have 1
I love you’re vids, keep up the fantastic work
Next you should pvp with a spider or megalania
Btw keep up the good work
nearly at 10k lessgooo love this series btw fav ark series ever!
The terror bird is waiting haha
No bobs were harmed I swear!! Literally 2 sec later burns down thatch base
Thylacs can pin down a theri or even just pick off the rider then bleed and comp them to death.
you were planning deinonychus and thylac if i remember right so thought i might add some things
Deino jump can be charged even while sprinting, when clinging onto a wall WASD only makes your jumps super laggy as the jump is only just aimed with your mouse so you can get aloot of height and distance.
This series is sick dude I love it!
Since the moth one I was so hyped to see what he did and phenix was kinda boring but I wasn’t expecting to to be that good so respect also I kinda wanna see enforcer or thyla or moose or any land tames tbh
yea phoenix was pretty boring tbh but all the others were great, phoenix didn’t really get enough kills and the kills it did get, he didn’t even show off the kits. but he still boss
This is gonna be the best series
I had no idea this was possible 🔥🔥🔥🔥
bro this series is the best
I LOVE THE VIDEO KEEP IT UP
4:20 supermario sunshine music lol
Rev almost on 10k subs
Nice video always love being set on fire for science 🔥 #1 test subject on the ark 😜
Affter this day Phoenix became a meta
Oooh Phoenix nice
That things brighter than a Crystal wyvern.
You should pvp with kapros next
That video was sickkk
Undervalued.
Next Dino you should’ve pvp with is a crab
Love uuuu
10:00 lol
PVP on. Shadowmane
Don’t worry I am subbed
When u use a phoenix and look up video thinking you found the meta and you find this video
Enforcer!!!! One of my favorite underrated mounts. Sucks high levels are kind of expensive for normal tames
18 minutes of rev quite litterally roasting people
Rev you should pvp on a rock drake, then do a tapajara
Quick question for the vault u had on small tribes underwater how did u keep getting down to it to get ur stuff ?
tame up a quick low level icthy, the saddle is cheap and they are a quick raw meat tame which is a lot easier than building a whole base to store ur loot in, so it’s worth besides for esp..
At first I used a megalodon I tamed which I regretted, I'm probably retarded for trying that. Definitely go with an ichthy or my favourite, a baryonyx. Baryonyx is slow but you also have a capable PVP mount and it can dispatch anything that might attack you on the way down.
@@RevPVP ooooo didn’t even really think about using a bary to get down, that’s a good idea cause it’s easy af to tame too
@@RevPVPthx for the advice but like where do u get the ichty like u have a new one everytime, cuz what I assume is just putting all my stuff in the vault then logging off
if you hit it with flame thrower or flame aro or fire wyvern it regains health
Gotta make this a series fr this shit is awesome
Love these vids bro
You should try PVP with a rock drake
Do pvp on a mantis
That's kind of common
Where can I find the music you’re using
Epidemic sound
@@RevPVP thx dude
I’d say either ice wyvern or tapa ooooooo tek tappy
Pvp on a quetzal with a bat heavy, its fucking OP
That sounds like it'd suck.
@@RevPVP no trust me if u use a platform saddle and box urself in with an imprinted quetzal its op
@@ItzMaydayYT in a group of people yes, but solo its dogshit you're too slow to do anything and quetzal does no damge.
@@RevPVP yo I literally got the idea cos I saw a kid doing it solo w a bat heavy and he picked a kid on a mana and a kid on a giga. Just try it out and then tell me it sucks
we need to see more
Next do pvp on terror bird
New vid!!! Hell yeah
Lol I'm dead
I thought phoenix we're stupid ornamental tames nice vid
The music tho 😁
That was 🔥🔥
Quite literally lmao
Kapa bro ngl frog would be funny 2
👑
legend nice intro
Pogu first
Bro keep the pvping with weird tames series going
Amazing video Rev, like always. have you tried Rock drake pvp, i really like them and when gliding if you dash to the ground it can deal damage. I never got to master it but it would be nice to see some Rock drake PVP.
It will be cool if it can pick
The pvp was good an all but the music tho🤘
IT'S RAINING FIRE DX
Yo first love your vids
Terror birds are fun to pvp on
Lol you listened to my comment on the last video .
Yoooooo I was on the server with u, I’m the 1 that suggested the phiomia
Discord gang baby
do pelagornis 😂
Yo wassup Rev
kaprosuchus will be great
Yess sir
Thyla pvp, and roll rat
First one! Love the videos keep it up
The only man that could kill anyone on that thing 😂
10s burns for 9% health each second, capping at 100 health/tick, and bottoming at 12 health/tick, IIRC. Pretty much if you can dash into someone and then get a peck onto them after 1-2 ticks, they'll die unless they have some way to heal fairly fast. Teksuiters or people parachuting are prime targets, can't heal yourself while in the air.
PvP with a maywing
Yo really nice vid I already liked how u pvped with moth but phynix is better in my opinion haha
Rev what do you think is the best small tribes stats you should make a video on one?
Pvp with alosaurus or carno.
Rev u made me want that thing! I already tried to tame one but didnt find one. What level was that Phoenix and which stats u leveled? Idk how that think works lol
Pvp on a pelagornis 😱
Pvp on Sarco, remember that sarco dude
YEAAAA HEARTED
SARCO PVP HERE I COMEEE
I love it
lmao play kapro next
Bip10 op
I’ve always had this idea but never had a good enough Phoenix
I actually just used a level 30 clone.
@@RevPVP oh damn
Maybe try using Calico??
pvp on a pelagornis!!!!! :D
PvP on a diplocaulus🐾🐾🦎
6.05 we gotta give credits to that guy, he got into the tribe! (look chat 5:55)
True!
Thylacleo ???
Bola + Pachy OP ?? lol you should definitely try it