The Problem with Biomed 1s
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As a biomed 1 I tried to apply myself and learn as much as I could , while a tech 1 I obtained certifications for the Baxter prismaflex, spectra optia , zoll defibs and draeger anesthesia. I have become a BMET 2 making about $75k-$80 a year , work hard and push through , it can be a very rewarding career !
Congrats man! Good luck on your journey!
@@BetterBiomedChannel thank you , awesome channel you got ! Keep it up !
I’ll be graduating in 2024 with my biomedical technician degree they train for a level 1 and 2 so I will try and get on as a level 2 myself
I like the name of your channel. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thank you so much for touching on this! I’ve been a Biomed 1 for almost two years now and I am NOT confident in my technical skills AT ALL. You are absolutely correct about churning out work orders because that has been my life for the past two years! Now because of time and my CBET, I’m being promoted to BMET2 and we’re hiring for a BMET 1 and for the past 3 weeks I’ve been worrying about their training. From my own experience, I think it’s damaging to throw a BMET1 into the churning out work orders phase because there’s no real professional development! I would LOVE to practice my soldering skills to make me a better technician because the last time I soldered anything was almost 8 years ago when I learned it in school! With so many Biomeds leaving, we can’t afford to throw our biomed 1s away like that. These are the people who will take over when we’re done! What does that say about the future of the industry???
Thank you Justin! This was a great discussion topic!
I couldn't agree more. The BMET1 is the starting point of our future. If we want them to succeed, we have to set them off right. We are setting the course of our future in motion with them. With fewer schools producing fewer biomeds, our goal is to help them help us.
Thank you for your passion to help this field. Your appreciated.
You are a blessing to this field sir. Keep up the good work.
Wow I really do appreciate this video. I love videos like these because it gives you a realistic view on these careers. I’m interested in BMET and I’m currently looking at programs. This was very useful in my research for this career.
As a recent biomed that got lucky with really good mentors and is looking to eventually run my own shop i can say I will be tuning in to your videos regularly
Biomed1 here!💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Good points, I wrote repeated memos. We had a director of maintenance, one of the several iterations of supervision, who thought Biomeds were electricians. He found out differently when 6 of 16 left in a few months. 1M in training walked out the door. One aspect of memos is protection against accusation when things go wrong.
You basically summed up everything that happened during my first few months as a Tech 1 in a nutshell, except what to do correct.
🖤Wow 🌞 haven't heard such great comments of the biomedical life coming out of college. Your absolutely right. 11 years health field one hospital & hearing this gives me goose bumps. Two thumbs 👍 👍up. Smart about the board life 😄
More power to you, people should be valued.
Excellent speech and values for new BIOMEDICAL Students.
I buy all of my new techs am/fm radio kits to build for that exact reason. The local community college electronics degree program doesn’t even teach or do any soldering. They only use breadboards…
What's the name of the kit you buy? That's an interesting idea.
Been there. One thing I loved was the mentorship I got. But I remember getting paid based on our hospital contract. School responsibilities, on call, and working projects whenever my coworker or my management was out of town which was every other week. I remember the company having to fly directors from other states to supervise me due to the nature of my situation. Should have seen the look on the hospital's C-Suite's faces when they found out I wasn't supposed to be working full-time but I was banking in the hours to get the work done lol "We didn't even know" 😂
I’m heavily interested in this career. Great video!
This is a pretty good vid and thanks Justin for giving us the info in a raw and in a real world way. Btw as always I'm sorry to bug you with this but since the pandemic I haven't seen enough info on what I believe you could do a Solid Vid about how ECMO is being used to save lives from the Covid-19. Stay safe bud and keep doing what you do and thanks for being a huge help in my education in the Biomedical field.
As a BMET 1 about to start at a hospital I was uneasy to watch this. Afterwards I am glad I did. Maybe I can convince my mentors to do as you say. I must say you are a little intimidating talking to as a newbie but was great meeting you. Thank you for these videos.
Intimidating? hahaha ok. How so? Was I not conversational or was I too technical? I probably am a little bit of both sometimes..
It was very inspiring to meet you Lynn. Thanks.
So true Justin. I said this same thing at my first Biomed job. Unfortunately, only 1 of the 14 biomeds was over a biomed 1.
You hit the nail on the head in this video.
I hear you. I have a director who only wants to see a spreadsheet of numbers cranked out each day. But when it comes to the proper sealing and quality check of the device, it just falls back on the tech. And you're right. managers just want to see numbers.
I agree with you! Thanks for the information…Im from the Philippines Biomed tech. Practitioners,.much appreciated.
I work on a variety of stuff, from bed pressure units, to ventilators. I think that it's important that a new Biomed learns every possible unit that is in the shop. I'm glad that I don't work in a hospital (though the benefits and pay are probably better..lol), because I get to work on a variety of stuff.
I respect you sir. Thank you for this video
I'm going to make a video about the Problem With BMET 3s. You're going to love it.
@Aaron Smith Aaron, you are not allowed to work on life support without OEM training - which I am sure you know. You can and should use that as a reason to push back on those responsibilities. If anything, if you really wanted training, get quotes for a year service contract vs cost of training and be sure you have the manpower to assume those roles.
@Aaron Smith Interesting other biomeds face these scenarios. Same, work under BMET III not willing to train much not even for first look.
i totally understand what you're saying here; managments mindset needs to change . . . . . unfortuneately, it likely never will.
Great advice like always👍
Super glad I found your channel brother
Thanks man! Stay in touch and downt hesitate to write at abetterbiomed@gmail.com
I'm no spring chicken, but just finishing up my AAS in Biomed. Looking to find a good place to work. Completely agree with your perspective. Saw the same problem so many times in the miltary with leaders focused on the work and not the development of their soldiers.
Hi, I see your mentioned you are in the military, are you getting your AAS from the military? Or what program/school/certified are you doing?
Thank you and you are the best. Please show some basic of test devices like using Oscilloscope or their features and usage.
I've been a biomed for 5 years now, the first 2 years I was in a shop of old timers who did component level repairs. The new hospital I'm in is all board level repairs, literally told not to troubleshoot components and just buy a new complete part. It made things "easier" but took all the fun out of it...
Most hospitals do no component level repairs
There's health safety in replacing boards as opposed to resoldering or reworking them, med eqpt tend to be finicky & throw random errors, tight tolerance range you don't wanna mess.
Beautiful, thanks
You're raising your standards
No shame in that. I was trained at the component level, been greatful for that. "Troubleshoot resistors for 4 months straight", basic training for any electronics technicians. It teaches you discipline but also introduces them to what electricity is.
I am reading up on my medical terminology.
Good talk!
Medical companies are cheap despite the amount of money they charge their clients.
"You didn't know diodes had polarity?" 😂😂😂
OG CBET (R)...USAMEOS 😎
Wow so it happens over there 😢You described my early career life!
My first job i rebuilt o2 regulators for at least three months before moving on to infusion pumps and steelizers in central supply
Love the video, I’m finishing up school this semester and I’m going to be try to get an internship. Hoping I get a manager like you
Let me know if you need help finding a position
Very good content
Everything you've said facilities should not do is what happened with my first facility right out of school. day 1 in fact both of the other techs called out sick and I had to fly solo.
Great video I was that biomed one at a small hospital with only a two-man shop they put me on call after 90 days having to be on call for rad and Lab at the time I was very motivated and I taught myself many things when I had a PM for something I would pull the manual out and spend half a day reading how to do the p.m. so I would know I was doing it right almost had a nervous break down about a half a year end of the job because I understand what I do affects patients lives love this video not on call for Lab anymore but still on call for rad
I am now a biomed 3
Congrats man. Onward and upward!
Good one♥️
You sir are the type I would like to be under the wing of. It seems and looks very intimidating working on medical equipment, especially if that equipment needs to be done urgently and possibly around patients, but your nurturing personality would help me get over the the anxious feeling I would have if I worked around a patient to work on the equipment, if this is the career path for me. I'm still unsure of what I want to do for a career.
What city are you in? I have openings here in Houston TX
@@BetterBiomedChannel Oh I'm in CA. I'm trying to find a better career where I can actually grow in and feels rewarding. It was suggested that I might want to look into this field. I am somewhat handy and I like learning, but this career looks to be very practical and secure in the sense that there will always be a need for technicians.
In order to get into this field though, I still have to go to vocational school, so for now I'm looking into this career.
I never went to school for bio med. I was hired as an intern and was working by myself many times before becoming a Bio med 1. Luckily I had enough mechanical knowledge and some very basic electrical understanding to squeek bye.
Pretty crazy eh?
You would lose your mind if you saw what my work week looks like 😅
Likewise
Biomed here who's worked at multiple third party companies and a hospital. Tbh the biomed field is fucked I agree with you on 90 percent of what you said. The problem is also a lot of senior biomeds are stubborn and do pass on mal practice to rookie biomeds. Now you think biomed ones are used for cheap labor ? I've met biomed 2s making biomed 1 money. I also feel this comes from biomed as a career not being respected enough which is why they always wanna hire newbies at a bare minimum and give them tons of PMS and signing off the work order as completed. Great video, I really wish I had a boss like you but I had to learn the hard way by figuring out a lot and being ridiculed for not knowing certain things
Good luck Sebastian. Do you use the Bmet Discord?
@@BetterBiomedChannel I didn't even know there was a BMET discord. Id love to join
Hello 👋 better biomed
Find a Hospital or shop that puts you through the AAMI apprenticeship.
So I have watched this video in the past, now I’m watching it again after I just started the first day of my apprenticeship with one of the biggest biomed corporations in the United States. I won’t name them because of privacy situations. After my first day yesterday my mentor asked me if I would like to be put on the on call list after I get a couple months under my belt. I don’t want to sound lazy but I do not feel comfortable doing that in the slightest. I forgot to mention I’m not even done with school. I’m still in my last semester.
That's not right. The reason biomeds wrongfully push a junior into doing call is because that lengthens out their own call interval.
As someone who is getting their cert in Biomedical Tech, this is kind of disheartening to hear but at the same time good 👍🏾 to know. That’s why my backup will be going into the nursing program as well..
No career is without complications but at least you know what to look out for. Let me know if you need help finding a good job.
My first hospital, my director kept telling me that i would get BMET 2 after 3 years. After 4.5 years, i was heading up projects, the contact for Cap Inspection, the go to guy for offsites and a whole host of other responsibilities. Ended up leaving for a company that onboarded me at level 2 because the other company recognized what an asset i could be.
What's the best route to get into the industry?
@@mykejohnson4980 in all honesty, school. If you can find a BMET program at a college or trade school, you can intern at a hospital and network with other techs. The hospital I interned at let me know not openings, and I've recommended interns for jobs before, or spoken on their behalf as a reference.
@@mykejohnson4980I started working at a company that did circuit soldering then found another company that works on medical equipment as a medical equipment tech. Now I am a Biomed repair tech. Took about 5 years to get to where I'm at. I have my own office now which is awesome.
About to graduate from the military BMET school lol ready to get out there and learn all I can.
Good luck man!
Great program at the military school house
I can do infusion pumps all day. Such an easy and relaxing life.
Anyone can do infusion pumps all day but that is not setting your career up for the future.
@@BetterBiomedChannel Very true, I know biomeds that are content working on pumps all day but don’t further their skill set or knowledge of other devices and PMs.
@@BetterBiomedChannel I'm honest and tell all apprentices and BMET1 employees that Biomed is not a field to be in. They are not appreciated by hospital administration and are underpaid for the responsibility of working on life support equipment. Being under staffed and a never ending growing equipment inventory burns out the older experienced BMETs that want to do quality work, train new BMETs, show them them the proper way to do things, troubleshooting skills / tips, service calls, etc...
I had one manager that said new BMET 1 don't need to know any electronics because they are the PM techs. 20 IV pumps per day to meet that PM metric, these new employees only know how to "Lick em & Stick em" the equipment with new PM stickers. 😟
New BMETs make a few bucks more than an Amazon warehouse employee. I'm not joking. 😲
Hospital Administration making Big $$$ 💰...... while we try and keep 20 year old equipment alive. 😤
Hi sir do you learnings materials there i mean a ebook or soft copy? Can uou share? :) appreciate much all your videos
Been in the field for 5 months, already asking myself if I want to go get my Electrical Engineering degree if I am gonna work this hard.
No kidding it is a demanding field.
Good day sir ,my name is chibunna Ikechukwu Franklin am interested on the practicals
My hospital biomed expects you to start call in 6 months of hire for any level BMET and we are on call for 5 hospitals at once.
Not in biomed, but have some of the skills to apply for this position i see online. I am thinking to myself if i should apply now. lol.
Always try.
Been a biomed for a few years , currently a travel biomed 1 . I want a permanent position ,but I just don't know where to look for open positions. Besides the norm sites like indeed and company sites like ge . Is it worth going to MD expos to look for new employeers
Abetterbiomed@gmail.com
I did school and got a diploma....
Why oh why is a CBET certificate better than a diploma?
Every time when I apply for a job, they ask for the certificate....I worked hard for that diploma
Justin!!
As a Biomedical Technician 1, for 4 Years now I've been pounding out infusion pumps... guess what??? Year 5 and I'm still here 😪.
My appraisals are usually outstanding ofc since I've basically mastered IV Pump technology.
You're right! No one wants to change the system of operation. We as Biomed 1s run around year after year PumpingOutPumps. And it is frustrating.
I have to ask, what are your thoughts on a seasoned Biomed 1 training a newly hired Biomed 2?
Your career is a competition. Your years of biomed work vs your actually diverse skills are what you will be weighed against vs other candidates. 5 years without growth is unexceptable. You should never have allowed that to happen to your career. That's also bad on your management for abusing their techs.
@@BetterBiomedChannel I really appreciate your support and advise in this regard. Really do feel like I don't fit the mold here even though I do have so much to offer to this industry. I would agree that I have more to learn but my professional progression and self development cannot be sacrificed. Thank you. 🖐🏼
I hope you are still not a level 1 BMET. Most hospitals is 2 to 3 years experience to move up to a BMET 2. Usually with at least one service school training. CBET should definitely move you up after 3 years
I work at dialysis specific clinics, seems to be better than going the hospital/ acute route.
How is the pay these days in dialysis? I started in dialysis but have been in a hospital for 12 years now.
@@seanthompson9741 I work for Fresenius and avoided the hospital because they are horrible here in Arizona however with absolutely zero experience not even knowing what dialysate was they brought me in at $20/hr
I've been a tech 1 for almost three months. As if early last month I am primery tech for infusion pumps. I am goin to Elite Solutions in Ohio for training next month or so. I would have been sent sooner but January was "pump month". In our hospital we have well over 700 pupms. We have only one bed guy so, soon I will aslo be back up bed guy. Got any advice for me?
Learn as much as you can at work and after work. Use your situation as a stepping stone to prepare for what's next. Have a long term plan and start working towards that plan today.
Desperately interested in joining this field. I'm searching for where to go to get appropriate training. As I see many free paid training programs. I feel you describing the very concern I have in receiving training to my long term desire to be trained and trained properly. I like the idea of being paid while learning but I'm a prideful worker. I like to work smart. Would you have recommendation of a properly trained program that you feel has high value and or a school that fits well in quality standards.
Cbet.edu has multiple options and they're well known in the industry for job placement assistance
I wished I could of known about your channel before quitting BMET. 🙁 I would only go back If I had somebody like yourself running the operations.🤔 Don't get me started on all the things I saw which you would never believe. 😮 I'd be glad to share my experience with you and everyone else but the comment would be too long.🤷
If you're ever thinking about coming back - let me know, I can help you find a great position. Are you connected with me on LinkedIn (Justin Barbour)?
@@BetterBiomedChannel You have an email I can send my Resume to for your viewing Convenience?
We don't do component level repairs. We just replace the boards. Haven't soldered in 3 years lol.
Same, too much liability I believe.
It's not a liability but a skill issue. Many boards and even more hand / foot controls can be repaired. Soldering is a core competency. If all we become is middlemen who RMA items, we won't continue getting our premium pay.
@@BetterBiomedChannel I agree with that but surface mounted components? That’s a challenging job.
@@JVk321 I will be replacing a solid state mini relay as soon as it comes in from China. I will record how easy SMDs are if you have a hot air station.
@@BetterBiomedChannel I don’t believe we do in shop. Hey I love deep troubleshooting down to component level, it’s gratifying and saving the hospital money, showcasing our skills. You know our industry is very demanding and all about down time/turn around time per our KPIs forces us to overnight boards and replace them quickly. Depending on work load we don’t get to dig into these deep repairs but just getting by.
I’m a marine veteran and just curious about the bmet career I used to do radio electrician in the marines and was hoping this was the job for me some company had called me about applying and they travel a lot so I was just curious. On your thoughts 😅?
Abetterbiomed@gmail.com
@@BetterBiomedChannel I sent you an email sir
So Biomed 1 is basically an apprenticeship?
hello i like the RULES OF REPAIR behind you in this video. can i read them please
I'll do a whole new video for this soon
Biomed 1 here
So with this said, my very first opportunityz to go back to school, I should change my mind about BMET?
I couldn't name a single career where a business won't try to get the most out of underpaid employees. There are plenty of great Biomed companies.
Awesome information. Do you need a bachelors degree to get into this field? Or would a trade school certificate suffice?
A 2 year degree is preferred but someone with technical experience and a training certificate can get placed into most positions.
@@BetterBiomedChannel Thank you for your informative response.
As a 40 year BMET, Sounds like this is a management problem more that a BMET 1 problem.
That is basically what I said in the video.
It’s so scary to think of going straight to a job right after school
A good job doesn't throw you into the fray. Bmet1 is a supervised position.
I was a previous Avionicsman in the Air Force and have my Associates in Science/Technology, Can i just apply for a BMET 1 position? Or do i need some sort of certificate?
I think most people do the college of biomedical equipment technology certificate. I'm prior USAF as well, but I did more telecommunications work. Still looking into this career, though, seems interesting.
I put BMET I's on call within 3 months of hire. The secret is pairing them up with an experienced technician after hours. The new guy takes the calls but an experienced tech shows up too, until the new guy is comfortable. Sure, it costs twice as much to put two techs on call but the learning experience is worth it. And it lets the new guy make a bigger contribution early on.
I teach my team to be well rounded! My biomed 1 took call after first week! It takes their leader to own it and lift up those Tech's to own their responsibility! Earn Trust! Biggest task!
Oops! No one told me that there was such thing as a color-coded zener diode. (smile)
First you fix the customer, then the equipment. In the Army I wanted CT school. You need department heads calling your boss saying what a stud you are and the defense will melt away. Remember some biomeds are attracted to the boring equipment or admin for various reasons and they are important and needed. Not every biomed is Gung ho McGuyver.
I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
Now im scared to persue biomed :/
You'll look back in 10 years and think "what if.." while the people who did join biomed at that time make over $65k / year
@@BetterBiomedChannel I’m back in the program pursing an AAS what do I do to get more experience so that I can make a better entrance into my career?
actually they created MET now Medical Equipment Technician . Horrible. They keep downgrading the position.
Ivac 560 and 590 😂
I could do this gig, no problem, with my AS Electro Tech and Navy experience. But I would not wear a mask, deal breaker, and the 'other' issue, as well.
This is one reason why hospitals get rid of in-house programs.
Hospitals get rid of in-house because they are sold a umbrella package of supply / food service / laundry/ EVS / engineering with the unicorn and rainbow promise of cost savings.
What would you say about GE Healthcare's promises of cost savings and bottom line of metrics?
@@gerryanderson6378 Oh boy. All 3rd party management have the same game plan. They quote and sign at a low $ number, they then find ways to increase their inventory numbers and decrease contracts to cut costs. -This puts extra strain on the technicians. They find ways to charge the customer for damages, accessories and batteries.
@@gerryanderson6378 let ge take over. Then get schooled. Think about what I said!
Sadly, it's not my lane to make the decisions. I have had good experiences with GE as far as their equipment. Not pleased with hearing about their being worshippers of the almighty metrics. Metrics are important but the danger lies in placing it on a pedestal.