He did want trouble though? If youre witnessing a crime, you either snitch or leave it be. You dont go there playing a hero unless you got a deathwish. In real life heros get cuts and holes, not glory or raises to their salaries. Ive had to teach that lesson once, but thank god he was a quick learner and left alive.
Sentence isn't long enough, with that much evidence and that level of savagery to an innocent victim there should be no possibility of parole imo, just insanity.
@@deal5307 100% if you have a Xanax blackout it gets rid of that part of your brain that says that’s a bad idea don’t do that and you’ll just act recklessly
Imagine the excitement of having a child, being a parent, then 16 years later you get a knock on the door to tell you that your sons been arrested for murder...
And it's not related to gang violence, or a robbery gone wrong, or a fight over a girl taken too far, it was pure sadism... evil, they straight up brought a life into the world that became the ugliest thing it could have.
Sadly this is getting more common in the UK. Them little chavs think they're all hard, carry knives and machetes around, get sniffed off their heads and absolutely mortal drunk, then get aggressive when any minor inconvenience happens. I've seen loads of lads like that around where I live and it's like 20mins away from where this case happened.
@N7 Redacted I was talking about these people and they were drunk, so actually it is you that is using idiotic logic. Just because some other people are crazy without alcohol doesn't mean that alcohol doesn't increase the risk of violence ocurring. I hope you understand now
@@iunnox666 It is basic knowledge that alcohol increases aggression and lowers inhibition. Yes, no doubt these kids were already fucked up, but I have no doubt that the alcohol increased their willingness to perform these acts.
@@ninototo1 These monsters were going to do this one day regardless of "our culture". They are born evil and need to be tortured then executed by burning with molten metal.
I listen to his videos while I do my assignments and it was so hard to get through that part, I had to actually stop my work for a bit, life was so much better 10 minutes ago before I heard atrocity like this.
Agree, No matter how much "guidance" they receive, I would never want people previously capable of this to be free to walk the streets. Throw them in the sea
I just don't understand how these two couldn't have gotten life without parole. They tortured a random person to death, robbed his possessions afterwards and joked about it before denying any wrong doing in court. What more could they have possibly done to escalate the crime higher?
Don’t feel comfortable walking around knowing that these guys will be out one day. Shouldn’t ever be let out, no matter how “well behaved” they may be in the future. They shouldn’t be allowed to ever see the light of day again.
This kid was so excited to murder someone saying "pass me the shank" various times because he was jealous his buddy was getting all the "action". Disgusting. RIP Robert 🙏🏻
You don't understand how prison in the UK work. Those are the minimums they have to serve, they aren't released automatically when those minimums are served. They have to be released on parole after serving the minimums and that is highly fucking unlikely to happen. I know it's fun it shit on the legal systems of europe but they've been proven to reduce crime and recidivism.
@@BubbyBold It happens all the time bro, let’s not kid ourselves. Off the top of my head, Joseph McCann comes to mind: The rapist who got dubiously released on parole the same year he went on a spree of depraved violence. Check his story out. It’s hardly a freak occurrence in my mind. I agree with you on that last part, but let’s not exclude certain realities of ‘rehabilitation’ sentences
First time watching one of your videos. I appreciate the way you sincerely address and console the poor victim and his family in the end. I've seen a UA-camr who starts off the video with flaunting her outfit; it's off-putting and feels disrespectful. Thank you for sharing and spreading awareness around this unfortunate turn of events.
I am not here to defend them, but these kids are typical product of society. If you actually study them and listen to them, they are paranoid about being watched and judged. They want nice things. They are, themselves from broken homes, with cigarettes, drugs and alcohol their only source of nutrition. Mindless violence and mayhem is their only means of expression. When I say broken homes, I am not sure you know, but the outcome of that childhood means complete lack of sympathy, empathy or care.
@@tensevo 90% of the world has had a tough upbringing, it doesn't mean stabbing someone hundreds of times and chopping at their body like it's some plaything is society's fault. Everyone is a product of society. There were an infinite amount of options they had that night.
@@Elzzaw Agreed. I mean I would agree, but they look like typical youths who have chronically abused amphetamine tbh, not to mention only source of nutrition is cigs, alcohol and drugs (legal or illegal), oh and violent role models, that should do it. They seem to deify gangstas and gangsta culture ( I can't think where they got that idea from?)
@@Elzzaw I have to say having re-read your comment. It is incredibly naive and sheltered. It's a bit like saying a boy who has been brought up like a rottweiler, has some choice about acting like a rottweiler. Society needs to look at itself before dishing out blame. Btw I am not proposing they get early release, quite the contrary.
@@harrier331 no, it means for life but can be out within 10yrs or whatever the judge says. If he gets out and do something, goes back to prison straight bc of his life sentence but still can be out. As i know the real "no parole" life sentence doesn't exist in UK. I think it's upto 25yrs.
@@fra_yt Exactly life in the UK means when out they are on licence and will be under special conditions they can't breach. I won't argue about how much jail time they got but the US system shows that even the death penalty does not lower murder rates. Both systems are flawed but we have yet to develop anything better.
This could have been for any of us, our father. This is devastating. If this was my dad I would never recover from this ever. My dad died a couple years ago near to retirement due to asbestos and that was bad enough.
@Lord ballsac the 2nd Exactly, and they take like 20 minutes to arrive anyway. I learnt along time ago to take care of my own safety and security since police, random people in the street and even some of your so called "friends" wont even be there to help you. Only close family members and maybe if you're lucky enough to have one or two good friends will look after you. Some of us dont want to carry weapons to defend ourself since we know we are breaking the law but at this point with everyone in this country thinking they are a badman cause they carry a shank you kinda have to break the law to protect yourself anyway. When I lived in North Cyprus (Turkish side not the Greek) we could sleep with our doors and windows open without a care in the world. No one will try to rob you, hurt you or even insult you since they dont tolerate that shit there and in Turkey. If you get caught with a shank as a 15 year old all the elder men and police will kick the fuck out of you and tell your dad - who will then kick the fuck out of you. Over here? A few month sentence IF THAT - many times just getting warnings, and then most parents dont even do anything to inspire fear in the kids. Everyone thinks you need to talk to the children blah blah. No. Kick the fucking SHIT out of them when they disobey the elders rules and this wont happen. "Cant touch me ill go to child services" - lol Turkish parent will murk you infront of the police.
They're fucking crazy. It also proves they can't fight for shit cos they had to attack an innocent unarmed man with a fucking samurai sword. They're nothing but cowardly scumbags.
@Lord ballsac the 2nd Doesnt have to Islamic culture brother. I believe in fear and intimidation from the top down. I dont obey my Dad because of Islam or Turkish culture (although generally having good morals and principles regardless will lead you to respecting your loved ones anyway) - I obey him because if I cross him he will kick my head in and if I even attempt to look at a knife to use on him he'll try to take it out of my hand and kill me with it. Not because he's mean or an asshole but because I genuinely only would get disciplined if I was being unreasonable or a brat. He would always try and talk to me FIRST before raising his hand or the stick to me. When people cannot be reasoned with you have to be firm and fair. It doesnt have to be Islamic culture because Romania, Poland, Russia and other parts of eastern europe dont have this problem either but they arent muslim. Turkey and all these countries have one thing in common: A hard and firm legal system that punishes any of those that disobey its laws... mirroring the environment that should exist at home with a strong father figure that doesnt tolerate non-sense from any kids or even his wife. FEAR and VIOLENCE recieved at the hands of good strong men will always prevail over savages like this. Look at some of the videos of gang members all over London tormenting and taking the piss out of police. They arent afraid of police or jail. They dont give a shit. "What? Lock me up fam you think I care tho? - bet you got bullied at school faggot" etc etc. and NOTHING happens to him. When he gets into prison he meets up with his boys, makes more money INSIDE OF PRISON than alot of minimum wage workers on the outside do and when he comes out? hes got a new link for guns and drugs that he met whilst inside the prison. Decent food and cushy cells since obviously we cant be having criminals living in a insanitary, cold and uncomfortable environment now can we? Human rights remember? Lol. In Russia and Turkey the police will have you close to needing life support as soon as you called the officer a faggot and then when you're in prison you're fighting off cockroaches and doing your best to not piss off the Russian/Turkish mafia bosses INSIDE the prison system. You'll be in there for a long time too. Say one bad word to the guards and everyone in your cell is getting punched up and beat with a baton. It's not about being a tyranical asshole that hits anyone that does something you dont like - its about when the livelihood of good innocent everyday people are endangered by these wannabee tough guys you must punish them ruthlessly so they never want to do it again. These people only understand fear not words.
Life with a minimum? Those two should never be given a chance to parole and be released from prison. What they did to Robert was beyond sadistic and evil….hearing the details made me sick. RIP Robert.
In the UK, minors cannot be sentenced to Whole Life Tariffs - where a life sentence means no release. Life with a minimum sentence means just that - they spend AT LEAST that amount of time in prison and have to be reviewed by a parole board to see if they'll be released. I seriously doubt they ever will be. If they are, they spend the rest of their life "on license" - meaning if they commit any other similar offences (i.e. violent crime) - they're returned to prison automatically for the rest of their life. It may seem strange, but the only sentence for murder is life imprisonment. The minimum term and tariff system is a way to differentiate different scales of seriousness between different murders. A person who murders an elderly relative who's dying of a horrible illness is not evil like these guys, but if found guilty of murder, would still get a "life" sentence. So there's a need to differentiate.
Trust me trying too tell people man this guy did this so he could act like he’s on stuff yuno a fucking factory worker and man said left him all wet up shullllllllap
“We never will snitch on each other” Yeah mate.... apart from when you..... wrote this stupid song snitching on him and yourself This mans a genius I’m telling you
@huawei thirteenmegapixel no if he's human, he's human. We don't need to categorize any more then that as people create bad connotations with certain groups. Therefore innocent people bare the grunt of the hate.
@Dirty mildcholestor if you actually look into it Eazy didn't write most of his bars, lot of them been written by other rappers like BG Knocc Out & Dresta, he was also mad off beat while recording. Rapping and being a real gangster don't go hand in hand, just check most of top UK rappers, do you really believe they're all top gangsters?
Yeah about 4-5 months ago a child was raped down here in freshwater and their parents caught the guy doing it. if you google it should pop up the guy is still yet to be sentenced but is remanded until January 8th. because if he was allowed on bail I know a lot of people who was offering to pay to find where he lives so real justice could be served. Why remand him the guy was caught red handed? He should be castrated that child and the parents will never live a normal life again
All im thinking about rn is that robert was probably someone's father, heck he had a family of his own and was doing honest work before all this happened. rest in peace robert
I gotta tell you Ape that I just started listening n watching you today and already watched four segments....each has left me gapped open mouthed and just sitting trying take it all in. You've really done your homework on these and put them together so thoroughly and as it went down. The kid or rather adult aged male drunk in the mall stopped by the officer later fleeing after pulling a firearm had my adrenaline pumping then the scariest doorbell security footage ...I mean geez if I sleep without a nightmare tonight will be amazing ...your a great story teller ...
What law would have prevented this? Assault with a weapon and murder are already illegal. Even if the old man was carrying a stick or cane, let alone a gun, he might be alive and those punks would get what they deserved.
As Xen Xen said, if people were allowed to defend themselves, most of these cases wouldn't happen. If you're a woman (or a man) being raped and you defend yourself by biting and clawing you'll be charged with assault or battery.
if an older guy confronted us for trespassing when i was a kid wed probably just run and possibly egg his house or something, but nowadays kids will decapitate people for it, what a lovely world
I think the 16/22 year minimum term is time spent in prison. If they are released their life will still be heavily restricted. I doubt they'll ever be released though.
@@oliveoil_yt It's also quite rare for convicted murderers to get out on their first shot at parole, partly because the parole board are wary of them and these people don't know what buttons to push having been banged up for so long.
Minimum of 16 & 22 years is not enough. They should never get out. What ever excuse people can come up with, “Showing off in front of a girl, fuelled with drugs and alcohol,” is no excuse at all. The family of Robert, will suffer for the rest of their lives as well as John and others who witnessed this act.
They don't ever *have* to get out. The minimum term is how long they must spend before they can even go before the parole board, absolutely no guarantee of the parole board granting release. In fact most murderers fail on their first shot at parole anyway, having to wait 2 years for another go.
It’s not an excuse. It was given as an explanation. NOBODY thinks that is a reason to torture and kill an innocent man. It’s just the possible factors leading up to it Rip to Robert
Excuse me 18 years & 22 years are you hearing this..... please Can we learn some laws from The US 🇺🇸 because if anything death penalty is the best answer to this tail...
If that sword is the one that was actually used. Then that ain't a samurai sword. It looked like a 10 dollar sword on Amazon. If that was a samurai sword Robert wouldn't have suffered so much.
It's not about the sword, it's about the master. Look up how hard it actually is to slice those bamboo sticks in one diagonal go. Most can't do that unless decades of training. So yeah even with the best sword it can get messy. Not about the sword mate.
To think that guy is coming out at the age of 32 at max is shocking, he’s still got a life ahead of him even though he’s taken someone else’s away from them
The thing is how should you stop this? Knives are always gonna be easy accessible otherwise you have to ban all knives which is quite impossible... You have to change the mindset of these youths in my opinion...
@@187Blondie "Capital punishment would work". Then explain why the murder rate per capita is higher in US staes that have capital punishment than those who do not. How does that work?
Detective: *reads lyrics and throws bloody samurai sword on table* 16-Year-Old: "I have no idea what that object is. If I had to guess... I'd call it... a sammy... of the big long variety..."
Facts, makes me feel hollow af thinking about, it’s fucked how 2 clear psychopaths can kill an innocent man and basically get away with but a guy trying to bun an opp gets more tf. London Justice system is fucked
R.I.P to Robert wilson, don't think anyone deserves to go out like that, he sounded like a kool guy judging by how he tried to initially handke the situation, its sad man
I find it strange that I expose myself to horrific accounts of crimes like this. I don't understand why someone would carry around a samurai sword, much less killing someone. There's no positive to this case. I suspect that prison will either make them broken or much, much worse people. It's rather inconsequential now, but I do wonder if either of them had underlying mental health conditions that could have been addressed before this, or if it was a combination of drugs, drink, bravado, idiocy, and misplaced self-belief.
This is crazy. RIP to the man who got murdered. I can’t believe what the world is coming too. count your days. Enjoy life. Don’t take anything for granted.
@@FrankCastleTIG to be fair the poster is probably referring to their own living memory. Not comparing to medieval or caveman days. Things were nowhere near this bad when I was young.
@@finngriffin9566 he was always up to no good, smoking fighting etc, but I could never of thought he would try to decapitate someone , that's beyond being a sicko
This is a combination of no role models, no hope or value in one's life, too many drugs and all the bad influences that drill can have on an unhealthy mind
Heartbreaking. That poor man must have really suffered. As an ex funeral director it takes a lot to reduce me to tears but I have to admit that this did. Life should mean life for these 2 scumbags!
@@yungmentalproblems Because there's nothing funny about it. If this story amuses you your brain isn't functioning correctly. It's clear you're lacking brain cells
“Yeah I wrote that but I didn’t think it was going to be shown in court” 😐😐😐 Yeah, most people don’t think their incriminating behavior will be shown in court but look here where we are... 🙄
@Stabswache He'd definitely watched some crime tv shows or something, thinking he's gonna get out of a brief stint in jail scot free over murdering a total pedestrian as if he's D'angelo Barksdale from The Wire. Apart from anything else imagine the embarrassment you'd feel in whichever afterlife from getting killed by someone so fucking stupid
Should never ever get out, and parole hearings for these people should be made public so they are not just quietly released the public deserves a voice. How would 22 and 16 years bring any closure to families.
@@cibinomin6540 they server a minimum term, meaning, they COULD spent the rest of their lives in prison, something I am hoping to happen, especially after their non-existent remorse shown by their shitty attempt at rapping
anyone saying he has remorse and that somehow makes it better, just imagine thats your loved one treated the way they murdered him..then tell me remorse matters..
The way he’s wrote them bars you’d think he’s talking about opps. Mans talking about a defenceless innocent old aged man that didn’t want any trouble
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Tapped youts living with parents in middle class family
@@RB-vb9wy fucking for real 🤣
He’s in prison telling everyone he got down like 5 opps at once 🤦♂️
He did want trouble though? If youre witnessing a crime, you either snitch or leave it be. You dont go there playing a hero unless you got a deathwish. In real life heros get cuts and holes, not glory or raises to their salaries. Ive had to teach that lesson once, but thank god he was a quick learner and left alive.
R.I.P Robert Wilson
For real
x. 🕊
Yep big time r.i.p !get to funkin jail walking around with a sword nowt but trouble
RIP
@@rich3905 This story is SHOCKING!! How has this not been given more coverage?? These Cats are absolute garbage!! 🤢🤮🤬R.I.P to Robert Wilson..
Sentence isn't long enough, with that much evidence and that level of savagery to an innocent victim there should be no possibility of parole imo, just insanity.
If I wss the judge I give him a death penalty
Internetums britain does not have the death penalty
Life without parole is hard to dish out tbh , idk why
@@rider3098 It is, especially for such a young age but in this case i would argue it's appropriate.
mre1995 facts. These nitty’s deserve the maximum sentence
The sheer amount of times Luke asked for the "shank" proves he's a derranged maniac.
Yep, I doubt either will but out for quite some time, they seem deranged.
Definitely. It's not a normal way to behave. They were on xanax aswel, that probably didn't help.
@@deal5307 100% if you have a Xanax blackout it gets rid of that part of your brain that says that’s a bad idea don’t do that and you’ll just act recklessly
They were on some demonic shit
What is a shank?
Deserves 16 years just for those shit bars
Honestly think that is a bit generous
Lol
Right !? Lol fucking awful
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best comment on here
Imagine the excitement of having a child, being a parent, then 16 years later you get a knock on the door to tell you that your sons been arrested for murder...
And it's not related to gang violence, or a robbery gone wrong, or a fight over a girl taken too far, it was pure sadism... evil, they straight up brought a life into the world that became the ugliest thing it could have.
Doubtful the parents had any control over them. Probably relieved they're in prison
I always worried about having a fuck up.
35 and still no kids, so far so good lol
@@brandondorsey5064 39 and no kids. It's great
@@Supraboyes kinda want one but in this climate of bs going on and these stories....
I'm good
Sadly this is getting more common in the UK. Them little chavs think they're all hard, carry knives and machetes around, get sniffed off their heads and absolutely mortal drunk, then get aggressive when any minor inconvenience happens. I've seen loads of lads like that around where I live and it's like 20mins away from where this case happened.
Makes me think our culture of glorifying alcohol might be an issue. Doubt they'd have done it without being drunk
@@ninototo1 Really? I think you have to be pretty fucked up to do something like that, drunk or not.
@N7 Redacted I was talking about these people and they were drunk, so actually it is you that is using idiotic logic. Just because some other people are crazy without alcohol doesn't mean that alcohol doesn't increase the risk of violence ocurring. I hope you understand now
@@iunnox666 It is basic knowledge that alcohol increases aggression and lowers inhibition. Yes, no doubt these kids were already fucked up, but I have no doubt that the alcohol increased their willingness to perform these acts.
@@ninototo1 These monsters were going to do this one day regardless of "our culture". They are born evil and need to be tortured then executed by burning with molten metal.
They should play his lyrics to him on a loop. That would be real torture
Yeah
I listen to his videos while I do my assignments and it was so hard to get through that part, I had to actually stop my work for a bit, life was so much better 10 minutes ago before I heard atrocity like this.
Right?
😂😂😂
Genuinely, the death penalty is justified here.
Torture penalty .
in the 16th century England they would have been drawn and quartered in public
@@anitabonghit2758 are you ok?
@@anitabonghit2758 wtf is wrong with you bruv
@@anitabonghit2758 you’re some crackhead slag
killing a civilian who wasn’t involved
ur hard
1v1 me pc, yk what i'm talking about.
@@0b100 no
@@Monkey-15 😭😭
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@@0b100 1v1 me brawlhalla
They don't need guidance, they need life with no release and hard labour.
No they need their life ending in the most horrible way possible and so do the scummy parents
@@Unknown-vf9qk amen
Im pretty sure they gonna deal with that someway or another.
They need a rope and a tree, what sort of redemption could there be for someone who legit tries to cut a a persons head off?
Agree, No matter how much "guidance" they receive, I would never want people previously capable of this to be free to walk the streets. Throw them in the sea
i've never felt so physically sick from a case i've seen. Those two are disgusting. RIP ROBERT WILSON.
Get them a chair. Make it electric. Make it torturous
Dont wet the pads...
N R huh?
@@ygr1229 Green Mile reference. ..movie
N R looool I know the movie. But long time. Wouldn’t have clocked
@Greg Moonen Why not just wrap them in razor wire and roll them down a hill
I just don't understand how these two couldn't have gotten life without parole. They tortured a random person to death, robbed his possessions afterwards and joked about it before denying any wrong doing in court. What more could they have possibly done to escalate the crime higher?
In the UK murder sentences are a joke. These guys will be out in 10 years.
@@SlopedOtter I agree our sentances are a joke but it is a minimum of 22 years...so he wont get out early
@@rachael2908 22 yrs for murdering someone?
Seems like a joke to me 🤡
@@Granglife Like i said i dont agree...but i was responding to the comment abour getting out early, they will not
@@rachael2908 and I'm saying 22yrs is mad early for their crime
Tries to cut man's head off, then asks: "why am I being arrested?"
I mean they do say this snowflake generation is "entitled"
@@tensevo To my shame I did laugh out loud at your comment!
"Police are harassing me!!!" -violent criminals
@@tensevo Now isn't the time to discuss how much you hate your kids gramps
"he didnt do nothing 😭"
Don’t feel comfortable walking around knowing that these guys will be out one day. Shouldn’t ever be let out, no matter how “well behaved” they may be in the future. They shouldn’t be allowed to ever see the light of day again.
Rest in Peace Robert Wilson 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
🕊💜 Rest in Peace Robert Wilson 🕊💜
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Rest in peace Robert Wilson🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Rip :(
This kid was so excited to murder someone saying "pass me the shank" various times because he was jealous his buddy was getting all the "action". Disgusting. RIP Robert 🙏🏻
Exactly.... Rest in Peace Robert. If only there could have been someone nearby to truly provide him some help in that horrifying situation....
real sad
Pity Robert wasn't an angry individual who took that sword and stuffed it right up each bottom of those disgusting cents
I hope they get what they deserve behind bars I’ll leave it at that
Seriously hope they got a beating . Sickening
Imagine murdering and attempting to decapitate an innocent old man and still being able to walk the same streets 20 years later. No justice in the UK.
You don't understand how prison in the UK work. Those are the minimums they have to serve, they aren't released automatically when those minimums are served. They have to be released on parole after serving the minimums and that is highly fucking unlikely to happen.
I know it's fun it shit on the legal systems of europe but they've been proven to reduce crime and recidivism.
@@BubbyBold It happens all the time bro, let’s not kid ourselves. Off the top of my head, Joseph McCann comes to mind: The rapist who got dubiously released on parole the same year he went on a spree of depraved violence. Check his story out. It’s hardly a freak occurrence in my mind. I agree with you on that last part, but let’s not exclude certain realities of ‘rehabilitation’ sentences
They are disturbed , should never get out
But still terribly ugly
@@smallfeet4581the one on the left looks pure evil something dead behind his eyes
First time watching one of your videos. I appreciate the way you sincerely address and console the poor victim and his family in the end. I've seen a UA-camr who starts off the video with flaunting her outfit; it's off-putting and feels disrespectful. Thank you for sharing and spreading awareness around this unfortunate turn of events.
this is disgusting, I can’t believe that there’s actual people who are like this.
I am not here to defend them, but these kids are typical product of society.
If you actually study them and listen to them, they are paranoid about being watched and judged. They want nice things.
They are, themselves from broken homes, with cigarettes, drugs and alcohol their only source of nutrition. Mindless violence and mayhem is their only means of expression.
When I say broken homes, I am not sure you know, but the outcome of that childhood means complete lack of sympathy, empathy or care.
@@tensevo 90% of the world has had a tough upbringing, it doesn't mean stabbing someone hundreds of times and chopping at their body like it's some plaything is society's fault. Everyone is a product of society. There were an infinite amount of options they had that night.
@@Elzzaw Agreed. I mean I would agree, but they look like typical youths who have chronically abused amphetamine tbh, not to mention only source of nutrition is cigs, alcohol and drugs (legal or illegal), oh and violent role models, that should do it. They seem to deify gangstas and gangsta culture ( I can't think where they got that idea from?)
@@Elzzaw I have to say having re-read your comment. It is incredibly naive and sheltered. It's a bit like saying a boy who has been brought up like a rottweiler, has some choice about acting like a rottweiler. Society needs to look at itself before dishing out blame. Btw I am not proposing they get early release, quite the contrary.
@@tensevo they where under the influence of class a drugs
“You just do it to say that you did it” M24 speaks truth
peter pan?
@@BennBeckman0 yeah
yh thats mad but m24 hid behind his mum
jay sq Haha yeh ^^
jay sq don’t be sleeping on mums tho like i swear 99% of these drillas have had a few beatings with the belt before
British Justice system is awful. Should've been life
They got life sentences.
16 years and 22 years is life? This is why the U.S people adore the privilege of firearms
@@garliccat8470 No, a "life" Sentence in the UK means for the "life" of the sentence, no parole. How does adoring guns factor into this at all?
@@harrier331 no, it means for life but can be out within 10yrs or whatever the judge says. If he gets out and do something, goes back to prison straight bc of his life sentence but still can be out. As i know the real "no parole" life sentence doesn't exist in UK. I think it's upto 25yrs.
@@fra_yt Exactly life in the UK means when out they are on licence and will be under special conditions they can't breach. I won't argue about how much jail time they got but the US system shows that even the death penalty does not lower murder rates. Both systems are flawed but we have yet to develop anything better.
I can’t even imagine how much hate you have to have in your body to literally try to cut off someone’s head
This could have been for any of us, our father. This is devastating. If this was my dad I would never recover from this ever. My dad died a couple years ago near to retirement due to asbestos and that was bad enough.
Rip your dad man thats sad
If my dad died to something like this I would never feel the same
I worked security for a pharmaceutical company lol
@@bigmike6179 count the days till they are released.
If it was my mom id feel bad as well.
These guys just killed someone for looking like they are recording.
What has the world come to
Well we really dont know what happened for sure. If its true this account then yeah they should have got death penalty.
Wild West well we do because it’s bee revealed. But yes I completely agree or like a 75 year prison sentence.
@Lord ballsac the 2nd Exactly, and they take like 20 minutes to arrive anyway. I learnt along time ago to take care of my own safety and security since police, random people in the street and even some of your so called "friends" wont even be there to help you. Only close family members and maybe if you're lucky enough to have one or two good friends will look after you. Some of us dont want to carry weapons to defend ourself since we know we are breaking the law but at this point with everyone in this country thinking they are a badman cause they carry a shank you kinda have to break the law to protect yourself anyway.
When I lived in North Cyprus (Turkish side not the Greek) we could sleep with our doors and windows open without a care in the world. No one will try to rob you, hurt you or even insult you since they dont tolerate that shit there and in Turkey. If you get caught with a shank as a 15 year old all the elder men and police will kick the fuck out of you and tell your dad - who will then kick the fuck out of you. Over here? A few month sentence IF THAT - many times just getting warnings, and then most parents dont even do anything to inspire fear in the kids. Everyone thinks you need to talk to the children blah blah. No. Kick the fucking SHIT out of them when they disobey the elders rules and this wont happen.
"Cant touch me ill go to child services" - lol Turkish parent will murk you infront of the police.
They're fucking crazy. It also proves they can't fight for shit cos they had to attack an innocent unarmed man with a fucking samurai sword.
They're nothing but cowardly scumbags.
@Lord ballsac the 2nd Doesnt have to Islamic culture brother. I believe in fear and intimidation from the top down. I dont obey my Dad because of Islam or Turkish culture (although generally having good morals and principles regardless will lead you to respecting your loved ones anyway) - I obey him because if I cross him he will kick my head in and if I even attempt to look at a knife to use on him he'll try to take it out of my hand and kill me with it. Not because he's mean or an asshole but because I genuinely only would get disciplined if I was being unreasonable or a brat. He would always try and talk to me FIRST before raising his hand or the stick to me. When people cannot be reasoned with you have to be firm and fair.
It doesnt have to be Islamic culture because Romania, Poland, Russia and other parts of eastern europe dont have this problem either but they arent muslim. Turkey and all these countries have one thing in common: A hard and firm legal system that punishes any of those that disobey its laws... mirroring the environment that should exist at home with a strong father figure that doesnt tolerate non-sense from any kids or even his wife. FEAR and VIOLENCE recieved at the hands of good strong men will always prevail over savages like this.
Look at some of the videos of gang members all over London tormenting and taking the piss out of police. They arent afraid of police or jail. They dont give a shit. "What? Lock me up fam you think I care tho? - bet you got bullied at school faggot" etc etc. and NOTHING happens to him. When he gets into prison he meets up with his boys, makes more money INSIDE OF PRISON than alot of minimum wage workers on the outside do and when he comes out? hes got a new link for guns and drugs that he met whilst inside the prison. Decent food and cushy cells since obviously we cant be having criminals living in a insanitary, cold and uncomfortable environment now can we? Human rights remember?
Lol. In Russia and Turkey the police will have you close to needing life support as soon as you called the officer a faggot and then when you're in prison you're fighting off cockroaches and doing your best to not piss off the Russian/Turkish mafia bosses INSIDE the prison system. You'll be in there for a long time too. Say one bad word to the guards and everyone in your cell is getting punched up and beat with a baton.
It's not about being a tyranical asshole that hits anyone that does something you dont like - its about when the livelihood of good innocent everyday people are endangered by these wannabee tough guys you must punish them ruthlessly so they never want to do it again. These people only understand fear not words.
Life with a minimum? Those two should never be given a chance to parole and be released from prison. What they did to Robert was beyond sadistic and evil….hearing the details made me sick. RIP Robert.
In the UK, minors cannot be sentenced to Whole Life Tariffs - where a life sentence means no release. Life with a minimum sentence means just that - they spend AT LEAST that amount of time in prison and have to be reviewed by a parole board to see if they'll be released. I seriously doubt they ever will be. If they are, they spend the rest of their life "on license" - meaning if they commit any other similar offences (i.e. violent crime) - they're returned to prison automatically for the rest of their life. It may seem strange, but the only sentence for murder is life imprisonment. The minimum term and tariff system is a way to differentiate different scales of seriousness between different murders. A person who murders an elderly relative who's dying of a horrible illness is not evil like these guys, but if found guilty of murder, would still get a "life" sentence. So there's a need to differentiate.
People back in the day got hanged drawn and quartered for much lesser crimes than this. Our justice system is shocking.
Sad low lives🤢
Kids probs got no opps fucking nitty
Trust me trying too tell people man this guy did this so he could act like he’s on stuff yuno a fucking factory worker and man said left him all wet up shullllllllap
Opps are still civilians lol
JYMMY Colt nah they ain’t, opps choose to live that kind of life, whereas civilians don’t choose to and aren’t about that life smh
ididit 210 trust me😂😂
“We never will snitch on each other”
Yeah mate.... apart from when you..... wrote this stupid song snitching on him and yourself
This mans a genius I’m telling you
no need to snitch when its on cctv 😌
What’s the song
That whole rap was snitch on him and his friend, then said people don't want a 1 in 1 with him like wtf he on
@@mystronnagrom9881 He was on serious drugs at a very young age, that shit messes your noodle in ways no one understands
🤣
No worries guys, with poetry like that, they'll surely die in prison.
dey gon wet him up innit
De gon wet him up innit
dey gon wet him up innit
dey gon wet him up innit
Dey gon we him up innit
His rap lyrics are exactly what I'd expect from a kid with a decreased amount of thought processes. 🤭
Bruh this is one of the worst stories I've heard in a while.
Lol
@@Adam-xu3ty fucking weirdo
Now there’s the Muslim who went mad and cut someone’s head off over a cartoon drawing wtf is this world, deluded people
@@user-ok8dd5el9i call him a man not a muslim, that's how racism accumulates
@huawei thirteenmegapixel no if he's human, he's human. We don't need to categorize any more then that as people create bad connotations with certain groups. Therefore innocent people bare the grunt of the hate.
Boy is his rap a load of donkey doo doo. lol
what do you expect from someone who cant think properly
garbage bars
Donkey doo doo 😂😂😂😭
@Dirty mildcholestor I dont think writing ability has anything to do woth how gangsta you are
@Dirty mildcholestor if you actually look into it Eazy didn't write most of his bars, lot of them been written by other rappers like BG Knocc Out & Dresta, he was also mad off beat while recording. Rapping and being a real gangster don't go hand in hand, just check most of top UK rappers, do you really believe they're all top gangsters?
Sad thing is these monsters are likely to be out of jail in a few years there is no justice in uk
ffs what is it that yall dont understand? There never was or will be justice. The LAW has NOTHING to do with JUSTICE! get this in your brain....
@@andulasis6283 there is justice unfortunately it has its flaws like everything 👍 mainly the people making it don't live in the real world
Yeah about 4-5 months ago a child was raped down here in freshwater and their parents caught the guy doing it. if you google it should pop up the guy is still yet to be sentenced but is remanded until January 8th. because if he was allowed on bail I know a lot of people who was offering to pay to find where he lives so real justice could be served. Why remand him the guy was caught red handed? He should be castrated that child and the parents will never live a normal life again
Update: the guy has got 9 years, fucking joke
The victim was 3 years old
Wow. This made me realize why my family tells me to be careful about who confronts me when I'm out. Damn...
Imagine if that was ur dad tho, just doing his job to pay the bills, too many brain-washed kids these days kmt🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Michael Iwobi this is what drill music has done
Danarcho TV facts these kids are soft but drill just makes them do shit they wouldn’t do
Don’t blame the music... why u wanna give these wet farts a scapegoat?
@@danarchotv5243 not really they are wannabe just want rating and attention
facts bro. kids idolising murderers. he decapitated a civi for recording him. theyve lost the plot
All im thinking about rn is that robert was probably someone's father, heck he had a family of his own and was doing honest work before all this happened. rest in peace robert
That kids eyes are further apart than my wingspan, holy fuck he looks like Sid the sloth.
you got wings asher?
@@isitnewyears if that kids eyes are that far apart anything is possible my man
@@asher3262 I feel offended but it's okay
@@hassan.hadier go home Karen.
Classic case of F.A.S.
I gotta tell you Ape that I just started listening n watching you today and already watched four segments....each has left me gapped open mouthed and just sitting trying take it all in. You've really done your homework on these and put them together so thoroughly and as it went down. The kid or rather adult aged male drunk in the mall stopped by the officer later fleeing after pulling a firearm had my adrenaline pumping then the scariest doorbell security footage ...I mean geez if I sleep without a nightmare tonight will be amazing ...your a great story teller ...
Some demon spirits was lurking above these guys that night
Please explain I'm genuinely curious
@Hello Hi it was defo block 6 lucci
It’s the Xanax and cocaine
@@Pc-hq8hs 15 year olds on coke? it only showed weed and booze in his system
Hamez sb if u listened the one on the left on thumbnail was on Xanax and cocaine
The UK needs to make their law system more severe, a case like this they deserved (at least) life without parole.
Bro this is what happens when you make self defence weapons illegal. Because now only criminals have weapons…it’s just sad at this point…
What law would have prevented this? Assault with a weapon and murder are already illegal. Even if the old man was carrying a stick or cane, let alone a gun, he might be alive and those punks would get what they deserved.
They should have got the death penalty which is unfortunately abolished in the UK . Death penalty in public ofcourse........
As Xen Xen said, if people were allowed to defend themselves, most of these cases wouldn't happen. If you're a woman (or a man) being raped and you defend yourself by biting and clawing you'll be charged with assault or battery.
@@KingFluffs no you wont what kind of bollocks is that
45 years minimum each should have been the sentence
Death sentence is way better
Crazy to think that’s almost 3 times the time he’s been alive
@@kangkinkang yeah at the end of the 45 make them suffer
If it had been America they’d never get out
Their sentence should've been torture by registered sex offenders followed by execution by burning.
Their parents should absolutely be held accountable. Talk about failing.
Why is he acting like a random factory worker is one of his main opps??
Cause they ain’t on shit, there just psychopaths with no goal. Waste of semen tbh
Bro he ain't even an opp it's his arch nemesis
ManPiss ManPiss man said arch nemesis you man are deluded fully
@@babybairr2487 trust 😂
its called mental health
me close to being 16, still having a bedtime set by my parents
you stay innocent mate
rules are good for life
@@Oliver-sb2yh yeah dont think i will ever come close to or even think about doing stuff like this
@@NotJames__ you don't 'think' so? what
@@MrSenserus its sort of just a bit of sarcasm or saying
The bigger boys in the jail will be whispering wag warn in their ears as they buckaroo their hides, best part is they'll be pushing back haha
if an older guy confronted us for trespassing when i was a kid wed probably just run and possibly egg his house or something, but nowadays kids will decapitate people for it, what a lovely world
Loooool yeah always some eggs or stink bombs on hand
@@patricktate4782 or them poppers to scare people
I mean, there were always killer kids out there, they just gain more notoriety thanks to the internet
It's not a common occurrence you spac
@@griefercreations9477 yeah them poppers were the one, used to do a jog past londis and throw a handful through the door over the counter
Clowns think they’re bad killing innocent people. Lost guys
He probably had no opps so he probably just stabbed the guy so he can rap about his chinings.
BeetleJuice Clips 🤦♂️
He did have opps that's why he was so tapped in the head n carrying knives, I knew him personally bro back in the day mad kid
Remi Junior who was his opps.
Reece 0500 people like this call anyone they don’t like opps
Exactly
I wouldn’t even write bars this bad if I was smashed and barely moving.
16 years and 22 years are not life sentences
I think the 16/22 year minimum term is time spent in prison. If they are released their life will still be heavily restricted. I doubt they'll ever be released though.
@@oliveoil_yt It's also quite rare for convicted murderers to get out on their first shot at parole, partly because the parole board are wary of them and these people don't know what buttons to push having been banged up for so long.
Maybe an inmate will fix that
I thought life is how many years you’ve been alive
@@jurassicsmackdown6359 hopefully
Minimum of 16 & 22 years is not enough. They should never get out. What ever excuse people can come up with, “Showing off in front of a girl, fuelled with drugs and alcohol,” is no excuse at all. The family of Robert, will suffer for the rest of their lives as well as John and others who witnessed this act.
They don't ever *have* to get out. The minimum term is how long they must spend before they can even go before the parole board, absolutely no guarantee of the parole board granting release. In fact most murderers fail on their first shot at parole anyway, having to wait 2 years for another go.
It’s not an excuse. It was given as an explanation.
NOBODY thinks that is a reason to torture and kill an innocent man. It’s just the possible factors leading up to it
Rip to Robert
Rest up Robert. Awful. No one should die in that manner just trying to make an honest living
RIP
Bless the family, terrible
Thank you for all the work and time you put into all your video , I can tell you do great research
, you are appreciated ! Fr.Canada
My mother works there and I'm telling you it was absolutely vile
Yikes she must've been so shocked. What a terrible thing to have happened
"think you're bad but you ain't bad on your own" says the guy who needed help killing an innocent, defenceless man.
I don’t know what’s more horrifying, the murder or the bars
i know man, boys need to take a page out of high focus.
Fuck off you little shit
@Dirty mildcholestor that statement itself is borderline retardation. Get yourself checked at your local gp are kid.
@Dirty mildcholestor when has eminem ever said he whas a gangster?
@@pisstakecentral fuck you bitch
These 2 have a chance for parole? What a crazy "justice" system.
Excuse me 18 years & 22 years are you hearing this..... please Can we learn some laws from The US 🇺🇸 because if anything death penalty is the best answer to this tail...
Agreed. Death penalty is 1000% appropriate for these clapped kids.
Stay in your little bubble, do wat you want to ur country just dont fuck up ours yeh?
@@user-rk5cu5tg2g our country is already fucked
Although I definitely agree that these guys deserve death, the death penalty is a waste of money and there’s not really a point in using it.
@@muhammadlee- how is it a waste of money? Its 2 less people to pay taxes for
If that sword is the one that was actually used. Then that ain't a samurai sword. It looked like a 10 dollar sword on Amazon. If that was a samurai sword Robert wouldn't have suffered so much.
Looks like a 3mm thick "ninja sword". Katanas are somewhat heavier and more impressive..
It's not about the sword, it's about the master. Look up how hard it actually is to slice those bamboo sticks in one diagonal go. Most can't do that unless decades of training. So yeah even with the best sword it can get messy. Not about the sword mate.
That's a cheap and nasty crap "sword" that wouldn't last a minute in a real sword fight.
To think that guy is coming out at the age of 32 at max is shocking, he’s still got a life ahead of him even though he’s taken someone else’s away from them
These are demons not children.
I bet these man been saying 3sj on socials. Imagine thinking you’re on something for killing a middle aged guy who didn’t do shit to you
What does 3sj mean?
@ it’s a drill rapper that white neeks willy suck for his stabbings smh
dinnynosher nah drill music
@@ojt2051 what's a neek?
@@ojt2051 They all seem like scared little Fannie's though. IMO. Quick to the knife and numbers.
I don't understand how the uk is planning on dealing with our knife crime and gun crime when its just rising massively.
The thing is how should you stop this? Knives are always gonna be easy accessible otherwise you have to ban all knives which is quite impossible... You have to change the mindset of these youths in my opinion...
It's not rising as much as you think, things used to be way more violent, it's just covered a lot more in the media.
L B how do you stop it? Capital punishment would work, harsher sentences. Etc, the world is too far left now though.
@@187Blondie 10000% capital punishment is needed
@@187Blondie "Capital punishment would work". Then explain why the murder rate per capita is higher in US staes that have capital punishment than those who do not. How does that work?
Straight DEMONIC.
Thought I’d commented for a second 😂
Please explain a lot of comments about this
Konnichiwa
@@jamiemadison8082 just christians that try to blame it on something.
@@jamiemadison8082 www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/are-demons-real/
Detective: *reads lyrics and throws bloody samurai sword on table*
16-Year-Old: "I have no idea what that object is. If I had to guess... I'd call it... a sammy... of the big long variety..."
They go 16 and 22 years but gsmarko got 21 for attempted murder
Facts, makes me feel hollow af thinking about, it’s fucked how 2 clear psychopaths can kill an innocent man and basically get away with but a guy trying to bun an opp gets more tf. London Justice system is fucked
Pleading guilty reduces your sentence generally
It’s different judges you think a judge says “oh gsmarko got 21 so I’m gonna sentence you to the same”
@Guiding Towards Solutions so does your age at the time of the crime. 16 years for a 15 year old who pled guilty is actually standard
@@Jordan-qm9xj in no world an AM should be 21 don't matter who you are or who you tried to smoke
“You don’t get no points for no innocent bodies” -g herbo 💯
R.I.P to Robert wilson, don't think anyone deserves to go out like that, he sounded like a kool guy judging by how he tried to initially handke the situation, its sad man
I find it strange that I expose myself to horrific accounts of crimes like this. I don't understand why someone would carry around a samurai sword, much less killing someone.
There's no positive to this case.
I suspect that prison will either make them broken or much, much worse people. It's rather inconsequential now, but I do wonder if either of them had underlying mental health conditions that could have been addressed before this, or if it was a combination of drugs, drink, bravado, idiocy, and misplaced self-belief.
Nah just dangerously stupid
This is crazy. RIP to the man who got murdered. I can’t believe what the world is coming too. count your days. Enjoy life. Don’t take anything for granted.
The world has always been like this. If anything, it's been far worse.
@@FrankCastleTIG True in medieval times this was the norm
@@FrankCastleTIG to be fair the poster is probably referring to their own living memory. Not comparing to medieval or caveman days. Things were nowhere near this bad when I was young.
Pity he didn't have conceal\carry , he could have blown them way and saved keeping the cnuts
@@FrankCastleTIG you might have got killed by the sword but I don't think a swordsman would behave like that , this was over the top mindless murder
The fact this guy went to my school and I have litterly sat next to him in detention gave me chills
What was he like at school? Would have to be a very messed up person to do this
@@finngriffin9566 he was always up to no good, smoking fighting etc, but I could never of thought he would try to decapitate someone
, that's beyond being a sicko
@@chrismario6371 holy.. I just googled it. Happened in 2012 right?
@@pizza9709 no, it was around 2020, just before lockdown
@Fat Girl Spelunker it was my fist one mate, never had one since
This is a combination of no role models, no hope or value in one's life, too many drugs and all the bad influences that drill can have on an unhealthy mind
I know people with all the above and wouldn’t do this there just pure evil
I grew up with no father figure, plus I love murder rap, I've never killed anyone or plan on doing, people are just daft
Steven Grindey then why do you like murder rap?
@@damedusa5107 it's like watching a horror movie
Steven Grindey find that strange. But I suppose people like watching horrors. Point taken.
Omg what kind of world are we living in, this is absolutely disturbing. That poor man and pray for his family 🙏♥️
Bet you didn't pray though
Village boys listening to too much drill
Litreally
Legit
Drill is massive in the countryside now. new gangs in most villages. nice to have them around cos it keeps out the townie scum
@@SC-hk6ui you guys are dumb violence will always be there without drill
Heartbreaking. That poor man must have really suffered. As an ex funeral director it takes a lot to reduce me to tears but I have to admit that this did. Life should mean life for these 2 scumbags!
Ofb fan boys, took this one too far
Trust me 😂
Took it further than ofb themselves
mate more like isis fanboys xD
the true ofb fanboys are in year 7
@@nomoregoodlife1255 init since when have ofb tried to behead anyone, this is England not Syria
“But we won’t tell. Na, we never will snitch on each other” - big oops there then!
They shouldn't be aloud out that's horrible.
Wait are the in prison for life?
"We would never snitch on each other" Then proceeds to write a tell all with zero rhymes
There is no redemption for lads like this.
In one line saying he'll never snitch/tell, then continues rapping about what him and his fwend did.
I like how you switch the photos when their stabbing him. Really makes me imagine the scenario better lol
lol? whats funny lad? lacking brain cells are we?
@@PalmBaiReader how does finding something funny make you lack brain cells?
@@yungmentalproblems Because there's nothing funny about it. If this story amuses you your brain isn't functioning correctly. It's clear you're lacking brain cells
@@PalmBaiReader I thought the changing pictures was funny, reminded me of Anxiety Wars nonce stings
Ur a fucking wrongun
If anyone knows where they went prison and knows someone in that prison, get them pressured everyday
They've been smacked around HMP Hull already 😉
@@dumdumdimdimdemdimdum9143 Nice one hopefully they come out and learn a lesson maybe they will do some good with their lives
atleast now they know what happens if they dont! lol
@@dumdumdimdimdemdimdum9143 Hope it continues
@@moocow2172 listening to the crusty yutes awful lyrics, he wont learn. They are psychopaths.
John must have heard his name being called as he ran off. Man, that's got to be hard to live with.
To be honest I doubt there wasn't something there to use against them, a pole or chucking a brick something
@@jackkawf4449 yeah but if he’s bricked one of the little shit he’d be in prison himself
@@josie5670 but not chopped into pieces
Four words only 'Bring capital punishment back'
“Yeah I wrote that but I didn’t think it was going to be shown in court”
😐😐😐
Yeah, most people don’t think their incriminating behavior will be shown in court but look here where we are... 🙄
In their “defense” they obviously ain’t that bright in the first place...
@Stabswache He'd definitely watched some crime tv shows or something, thinking he's gonna get out of a brief stint in jail scot free over murdering a total pedestrian as if he's D'angelo Barksdale from The Wire. Apart from anything else imagine the embarrassment you'd feel in whichever afterlife from getting killed by someone so fucking stupid
Should never ever get out, and parole hearings for these people should be made public so they are not just quietly released the public deserves a voice. How would 22 and 16 years bring any closure to families.
what's "rare" is the Crown Court system in the UK ever giving any REAL justice or punishment.
These are the demons we get to deal with now a days.
Says he'd never snitch but literally has lyrics detailing what he'd done
"Can't wait 'til I'm free, drinking Henny wid ice"
Yeah no, not gonna happen
He's gonna be drinking water with a dead fly in it
what makes you think this is not gonna happen? its not like they will spend their whole life in prison
Hes getting out at age 32...
This is the UK, of course it will happen
@@cibinomin6540 they server a minimum term, meaning, they COULD spent the rest of their lives in prison, something I am hoping to happen, especially after their non-existent remorse shown by their shitty attempt at rapping
Sociopaths , irreparable and dangerous.
Neither should ever be released.
Would’ve been great if there was literally a single licensed firearm on scene! 🤯
anyone saying he has remorse and that somehow makes it better, just imagine thats your loved one treated the way they murdered him..then tell me remorse matters..
Anyone saying he has remorse can listen to his "song" titled - No Remorse...
WTF?!?! Why just why?!?! RIP Robert I am so sorry 😞
Bruh!!! Man didn’t deserve this at all Prayers go out to the family fr 🙏
Amen :'(
their lawyers would’ve been crying once they found out about those rap lyrics 🤣
He couldn’t rap a gift, 😂
Lmao
@@thebodykeepsthescore2828 the joke work if he says wrap