I have the Outin Nano and here is what I found -- that the amount of water retention depends upon your roast and grind. I was surprised to find this out when I tested it with freshly roasted coffee from Bazzar Coffee in Canton, GA. Secondly, I like the idea of freshly ground coffee -- but sometimes when I'm on the move, I like the convenience of Nespresso Pods. It's really fast and concenient. For a while I thought I had to choose, but I was amazed to learn that the unused portafilter neatly and snugly stores in the water chamber. I understand your concerns about how many cups can be brewed on a single charge, but for me as a motorcyclists and backpacker it hasn't been a problem. Great video.
Thank you! This is really valuable. I agree on the convenience of pods. I would totally suggest this for people who likes and uses pods regularly, and I believe pretty much every portable espresso machine has an adapter for those. Also, I didn’t even think about putting the extra portafilter up there hahahah. This is a great tip! I agree, in an individual level, this machine is great. When I use it at work, one charge is enough for the cups I brew in a day so it’s never been an issue. But as soon as there’s a second person using it, it stops being as convenient. Thank you for this comment! 🙏
@@fluffylambut I have used the Good & Gather Signature pods. They are rich, flavorful, economical and convenient. Generally I use fresh ground coffee from local roasteries but that easily adds about 3-5 lbs in weight all in. It's worth it if you're a fanatic but the pods can't be beat if you are traveling light. Additionally I carry a HALO Bolt 58830 mWh Portable battery. It can charge the Outin 4 times, or around 16 pods. It's very handy. Finally get a set of double walled glass espresso cups. They add a bit of luxury to your kit. Cheers
Have it for almost a year and mostly use pods and have access to hot water on demand honestly didn’t charge it from first getting it for about 4 months and I drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day so claim off 200 cups is there. However heating up found that with max water about 75ml only could do 2 cups
It would be great if it also worked via a powerful adapter like the one that comes with a macbook, or via the cigarette lighter in the car, without having to wait for hours for the internal battery to charge.
I have it and use it regularly..I manage to get 3x80 ml cold water cups. Don't understand rhe criticism about charging. Unless you bring a gas stove and kettle you don't have boiling water either. I also have Staresso Mini, Inuse it at work because we have a kettle...
A Dedica barely reaches 12.5bar and is rated at 20bars while being a 220Volts powered expresso maker. Hard to believe the 20bars selling point for something battery operated and using a tiny inner pump. That is the reason why the result is watery as well, in reality is running at a low pressure, unable to fully extract that magic creamy expresso. Great review, btw!
I recieved mine last week tested it once using the nespresso pods and was super happy with the coffee. I just bought a manual grinder and will test it again soon!
@@lizhappybeans i like the fact that with this device i no longer need to consume instant coffee anymore when working in remote areas with no access to decent coffee.
I have and love the Gadgelux. I grind my coffee and don’t bother with the heating feature. I use a kettle. My formula is memorized and produces the perfect espresso consistently.
Oh, I’m so sorry I missed this comment before! I just measured mine and it’s about 38.1mm inside. There aren’t calibrated tampers this size, as far as I know. But the tamper it brings will give you a decently even tamp if you use the dosing funnel too!
I think I just ground the coffee too fine! But regardless of how the puck looks at the end of extraction, what really matters is that you enjoy the coffee it's producing. Cheers!
Thank you for such a professional and thorough review, very well done, answered just about all the questions had and has helped me make my choice. I will look up warranty info though.
Good video but I would like to know which machine makes the best crema? I don't really need a manual or non-electric machine. My main concern is weight and coffee quality. Any other machines make better crema and larger output (double espresso)? Thanks
A lot of other machines produce more crema and double espresso shots (including the Outin Nano if you use the double basket they released after this video was made!) - but the truth is that the crema in your shot is a lot more dependent on the freshness of your coffee beans than the espresso machine! At the end of the day, what creates the microbubbles in espresso crema is the release of CO2 which is more present the fresher the beans are! Hope this helps :)
Try the Wacaco Picopresso, it uses a Non-Pressurised basket and gives that rich syrupy texture. Of course with Non-Pressurised, the grind has to be right. Worth it though with everything you need fitting right in the device itself. Wdt, dosing ring, shower cap, and tamp fitting in the small device itself.
Absolutely need to get my hands on one! I had the chance to try it and found it very interesting! I'd love to chance to experiment a bit more. And of course, I'd really prefer to have a non-pressurized basket and be in control of the outcome...
@@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo not with the right upgrades. With a Shwarks basket, better dosing ring, and a separate wdt tool, you have actually cafe quality espresso on the go. The Shwarks basket makes the difference because you can actually do light roast in it with no issue. Don't forget a good hand grinder too
@@gemini1123 espresso doesn’t have a filter….? This is a pressurized portafilter that is plastic yes, and has a plastic dispersion screen but not a filter.
The pressurized portafilter is made out of a BPA-free plastic. Also, they now have the Nano Basket Plus which is made out of food-grade stainless steel!
I have a GCP at home and wanted something for occasional travel, always by car. I was looking at the Outin and the Picopress. There are a LOT of "Outin" available at deep discount on e-bay (even considering shipping cost differences) and my long experience with battery-operated electronics indicates it is unlikely to last all that long. The Picopress requires a lot of hot water to preheat the unit and then to brew (and the shots tend to be on the cool-side). >>> Based on my research and my needs... I have a tiny propane camping stove meant for backpacking. I can make a nice coffee anywhere with my moka pot. It's not espresso, per se but close enough for travel. I get a good-sized coffee that is HOT.
I have one, itsgreat for outdoors. But made for 1 person, not multiple. Temp is good, i have an additional power bank to recharge twice. So i get 6 cups with recharging (2 hours).
You cant make a two shots espresso with only 5 to 6 grams of coffee. That is bullshit. The standard in coffee shops is 7 to 10 for a single and 16 to 18 grams for a double. Why does the manufacturers keep getting it wrong!!!! URGH. You end up with weak espresso. That's why i stick with wacaco picopresso it lets you have up to 18 grams to create a double and less if you want a single. This outin company needs to be fired!!!!
Dear friend, thanks for the precious feedback! Our new nano basket plus has been launched and it can contains 16-18g ground coffee per time! Check it out~
Picopresso is amazing. I can see why people would opt for this option. It's simpler and convenient for those who just want coffee. You gotta be serious about coffee to f*ck with Picopresso. Not very many people are serious.
This is not good and pretty odd. Close friends who bought it got it with no issue. I’ll share this with the people from Outin, hope you get your machine, or your money back 🙏.
Oh, so sorry I missed you too! I really feel that the quality build has the potential to hold long term, but in all truth I haven't had it for long enough yet to make a fair assessment! I may be able to answer so much better in a couple of months ;)
@@lizhappybeans mine will be here tomorrow, I roast my own beans, it will be interesting to see how different roast styles and grinds affect this since it’s 20 bar. I wonder if you can get a non pressurized basket for this.
@@lizhappybeans I have been unable to decide on buying this after not having the strength to pump the Picopresso; nor being able to get the baskets in and out of the Delonghi 'proper' espresso machine, that had to go back. I'm not very strong. My main issue that has held me back from purchasing this is because it is battery driven and chargeable. While convenient I am thinking how long will the battery last based on once espresso a day? It could end up a very expensive item as it's not cheap to begin with!
@@lizhappybeans I love how the doser and tamper fit into the cup. I just switched the leveler for a safety pin and it is perfectly compact. Now I am looking for a suitable medical bag maybe to pack outin, grinder, scale, 100ml beaker, three coffee jars, tissues and biscuits. And i didnt even drink coffee that much before buying an Outin. Dam
Oh, it certainly makes espresso. What I meant to say is that the result is not as dense/thick as an espresso you'd extract from a traditional espresso machine! In all my testing, the coffee was always leaning towards the watery/thin side. Hope that helps clarify!
I have the Outin Nano and here is what I found -- that the amount of water retention depends upon your roast and grind. I was surprised to find this out when I tested it with freshly roasted coffee from Bazzar Coffee in Canton, GA. Secondly, I like the idea of freshly ground coffee -- but sometimes when I'm on the move, I like the convenience of Nespresso Pods. It's really fast and concenient. For a while I thought I had to choose, but I was amazed to learn that the unused portafilter neatly and snugly stores in the water chamber. I understand your concerns about how many cups can be brewed on a single charge, but for me as a motorcyclists and backpacker it hasn't been a problem. Great video.
Thank you! This is really valuable. I agree on the convenience of pods. I would totally suggest this for people who likes and uses pods regularly, and I believe pretty much every portable espresso machine has an adapter for those.
Also, I didn’t even think about putting the extra portafilter up there hahahah. This is a great tip!
I agree, in an individual level, this machine is great. When I use it at work, one charge is enough for the cups I brew in a day so it’s never been an issue. But as soon as there’s a second person using it, it stops being as convenient.
Thank you for this comment! 🙏
Could you comment on the quality of the result from the pods? Thx
@@fluffylambut I have used the Good & Gather Signature pods. They are rich, flavorful, economical and convenient. Generally I use fresh ground coffee from local roasteries but that easily adds about 3-5 lbs in weight all in. It's worth it if you're a fanatic but the pods can't be beat if you are traveling light. Additionally I carry a HALO Bolt 58830 mWh Portable battery. It can charge the Outin 4 times, or around 16 pods. It's very handy. Finally get a set of double walled glass espresso cups. They add a bit of luxury to your kit. Cheers
To those in Europe, 205 Fahrenheit is 96 Celsius, and it's actually pretty good for a portable coffee maker.
Fantastic input! Thank you for adding value to the conversation! ☕☺
It's actually 96°C everywhere else as well 😉
To those in anywhere outside US haha
Have it for almost a year and mostly use pods and have access to hot water on demand honestly didn’t charge it from first getting it for about 4 months and I drink 3-4 cups of coffee a day so claim off 200 cups is there. However heating up found that with max water about 75ml only could do 2 cups
That's right! I've had the same experience when heating up at max water level
It would be great if it also worked via a powerful adapter like the one that comes with a macbook, or via the cigarette lighter in the car, without having to wait for hours for the internal battery to charge.
I completely agree with you!
I have it and use it regularly..I manage to get 3x80 ml cold water cups. Don't understand rhe criticism about charging. Unless you bring a gas stove and kettle you don't have boiling water either. I also have Staresso Mini, Inuse it at work because we have a kettle...
That’s perfect! I’m happy to hear you’ve found your flow!
A Dedica barely reaches 12.5bar and is rated at 20bars while being a 220Volts powered expresso maker. Hard to believe the 20bars selling point for something battery operated and using a tiny inner pump. That is the reason why the result is watery as well, in reality is running at a low pressure, unable to fully extract that magic creamy expresso. Great review, btw!
I recieved mine last week tested it once using the nespresso pods and was super happy with the coffee. I just bought a manual grinder and will test it again soon!
Great news! I hope you like it with the manual settings too!
@@lizhappybeans i like the fact that with this device i no longer need to consume instant coffee anymore when working in remote areas with no access to decent coffee.
Du you think manual grinder better in comparison with capsule?
does anyone know of a batter powered milk warmer to go with this
I have and love the Gadgelux. I grind my coffee and don’t bother with the heating feature. I use a kettle. My formula is memorized and produces the perfect espresso consistently.
Fantastic to hear you've found your rhythm with it! 😍
Great video! Thanks for the info. Just ordered my OutIn !
Amazing! I hope you have a lot of fun with it!
Do you know the diameter of the basket plus? I would like to get a calibrated tamper for it
Oh, I’m so sorry I missed this comment before! I just measured mine and it’s about 38.1mm inside. There aren’t calibrated tampers this size, as far as I know. But the tamper it brings will give you a decently even tamp if you use the dosing funnel too!
Too much water your packing it too tight
I think I just ground the coffee too fine! But regardless of how the puck looks at the end of extraction, what really matters is that you enjoy the coffee it's producing. Cheers!
There is an 18ml basket set for the Outin now, has a much better tamper too.
Oh yes! I just got the new double basket today and it’s an amazing upgrade!
5-6g of coffee is just not nearly enough.
Since I made the video, they have released a double basket so you can use 16-18g of coffee and produce a double espresso shot.
Thank you for such a professional and thorough review, very well done, answered just about all the questions had and has helped me make my choice. I will look up warranty info though.
Amazing! I’m so happy it was helpful! If you decide to go ahead and buy it, remember to use my link and code at checkout to get a discount! ❤️☕️
The new double shot is game changer
Agreed!
Caught your reference there 2:09
Oh reaaaally? Wow wow wow…. Catching references is TIGHT! 😂
Good video but I would like to know which machine makes the best crema? I don't really need a manual or non-electric machine. My main concern is weight and coffee quality. Any other machines make better crema and larger output (double espresso)?
Thanks
A lot of other machines produce more crema and double espresso shots (including the Outin Nano if you use the double basket they released after this video was made!) - but the truth is that the crema in your shot is a lot more dependent on the freshness of your coffee beans than the espresso machine! At the end of the day, what creates the microbubbles in espresso crema is the release of CO2 which is more present the fresher the beans are!
Hope this helps :)
Yes, great video! However, you didn't mention which country this machine is made in. If it's made in China, I'm also allergic to products from China.
Thank you! And…I strongly recommend you buy some Benadryl 😅❤️
if you can heat up the water, why not using a manual pump version for $60 ? :)
Super valid question! But I guess we don’t always have a way to heat up the water which is where this comes in handy ☺️
Try the Wacaco Picopresso, it uses a Non-Pressurised basket and gives that rich syrupy texture. Of course with Non-Pressurised, the grind has to be right. Worth it though with everything you need fitting right in the device itself. Wdt, dosing ring, shower cap, and tamp fitting in the small device itself.
Absolutely need to get my hands on one! I had the chance to try it and found it very interesting! I'd love to chance to experiment a bit more. And of course, I'd really prefer to have a non-pressurized basket and be in control of the outcome...
Yes and the picopress gives you the PROPER dose of ground coffee. none of this 5 to 6 gram crap. Its 7 to 10 for single and 16 to 18 for double
I had to send mine back. It is really tough to press the pump in and out and I couldn't do it. Only for those with strong hands.
Picopresso is sooooo over rated
@@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo not with the right upgrades. With a Shwarks basket, better dosing ring, and a separate wdt tool, you have actually cafe quality espresso on the go. The Shwarks basket makes the difference because you can actually do light roast in it with no issue. Don't forget a good hand grinder too
It's super easy....barely an inconvenience ....nice nod to Ryan
Love his channel!
@@lizhappybeans I knew it!!!
Is that a plastic espresso filter? 🤨
@@gemini1123 espresso doesn’t have a filter….?
This is a pressurized portafilter that is plastic yes, and has a plastic dispersion screen but not a filter.
The pressurized portafilter is made out of a BPA-free plastic.
Also, they now have the Nano Basket Plus which is made out of food-grade stainless steel!
For $5 you can buy a plastic cone coffee dripper and with a paper filter you can enjoy nearly the same thing. Better than Starbucks.
There’s always a cheaper alternative to enjoy good coffee! 🫶
@@richardivey9186 but.. espresso?
Do your beans look soupy after a pull? I feel like my espresso should look like compressed puck, not soup
Usually if your puck looks soupy, it’s because of a very fine grind! Try adjusting to a coarser setting and see if it helps!
Great video thanks for your time much appreciated.
Thank you for watching! ☕️❤️
thx liz
I have a GCP at home and wanted something for occasional travel, always by car. I was looking at the Outin and the Picopress. There are a LOT of "Outin" available at deep discount on e-bay (even considering shipping cost differences) and my long experience with battery-operated electronics indicates it is unlikely to last all that long. The Picopress requires a lot of hot water to preheat the unit and then to brew (and the shots tend to be on the cool-side). >>> Based on my research and my needs... I have a tiny propane camping stove meant for backpacking. I can make a nice coffee anywhere with my moka pot. It's not espresso, per se but close enough for travel. I get a good-sized coffee that is HOT.
Moka pot never disappoints!
OMG its top device.
I have one, itsgreat for outdoors. But made for 1 person, not multiple. Temp is good, i have an additional power bank to recharge twice. So i get 6 cups with recharging (2 hours).
I love your strategy with the power bank!
This is the Bang and Olufsen of Portable coffee makers
☕️🤌🏼
Do or can you clean this out by going thru the process with just water (without the coffee)?
Absolutely yes! It's great practice to keep it tidy!
Have you checked the temperature of the water at output? I heard it outputs 81degree, 96 is a little bit too much for such a machine…. Thank you
You're correct! In further testing, I'd say the average output temperature is about 88ºC - never as high as 95-96ºC
How do you replace the battery once it wears out?
How do you replace battery in your €1000 phone once it wears out?
As far as I'm aware, you can't for the time being. Same as an iPhone, you'd replace the entire unit when that time comes.
I contacted the company about this. They said not replaceable but covered by a two year warranty under “ normal “ use.
@sussudioharvey9458 thank you so much for checking with them and updating us here 🙏🏼
@@sussudioharvey9458 thank you.
You cant make a two shots espresso with only 5 to 6 grams of coffee. That is bullshit. The standard in coffee shops is 7 to 10 for a single and 16 to 18 grams for a double. Why does the manufacturers keep getting it wrong!!!! URGH. You end up with weak espresso. That's why i stick with wacaco picopresso it lets you have up to 18 grams to create a double and less if you want a single. This outin company needs to be fired!!!!
Dear friend, thanks for the precious feedback! Our new nano basket plus has been launched and it can contains 16-18g ground coffee per time! Check it out~
I bought one and it doesn’t even work! It says it’s charging but it never fully charges!!! What a scam
Picopresso is amazing. I can see why people would opt for this option. It's simpler and convenient for those who just want coffee. You gotta be serious about coffee to f*ck with Picopresso. Not very many people are serious.
Actually it does 8-10g of coffee and they also sell a double shot with 16-18g if you prefer
@@OutdoorsIQ coffee cheers!
Great video. 👍
Thank you! ☺️
It can heat up coffee? 😱. How many watt does it use?
Hi there! It’s 90 watts!
Well I just appreciate good design ❤
Valid!
I ordered. I waited and nothing. they don't respond to emails. the money will not be returned. I was scammed. I don't recommend it.😢
This is not good and pretty odd. Close friends who bought it got it with no issue. I’ll share this with the people from Outin, hope you get your machine, or your money back 🙏.
@@lizhappybeans in the meantime they wrote back with great difficulty. it is possible that the problem will be solved. if so, I will apply
@@levicikecske okay brother, so this is a true cryptoway, just buy nothing and wait for something. Welcome to the club!
When I use cold water, it produces a little foam, why?
What kind of foam? It will normally produce some kind of crema regardless.
How much bar pressure is this?
20 bar of pressure!
such a good review, thanks
Thanks for watching! ☕️✨
I was making a mess with the scoop until I saw your video, thank you
I’m glad it helped! :D
Hello. Interesting video. Is it easy to descale ?
Absolutely! Just like any other machine you may use a tablet, liquid or white vinegar to descale ☺️
I’m sad I didn’t run into you at SCA. I have been looking into this machine, how does the build quality feel for long term?
Oh, so sorry I missed you too! I really feel that the quality build has the potential to hold long term, but in all truth I haven't had it for long enough yet to make a fair assessment! I may be able to answer so much better in a couple of months ;)
@@lizhappybeans mine will be here tomorrow, I roast my own beans, it will be interesting to see how different roast styles and grinds affect this since it’s 20 bar. I wonder if you can get a non pressurized basket for this.
@@lizhappybeans I have been unable to decide on buying this after not having the strength to pump the Picopresso; nor being able to get the baskets in and out of the Delonghi 'proper' espresso machine, that had to go back. I'm not very strong. My main issue that has held me back from purchasing this is because it is battery driven and chargeable. While convenient I am thinking how long will the battery last based on once espresso a day? It could end up a very expensive item as it's not cheap to begin with!
I have OutIn too. With nano basket. I love it! Absolulu
So good! After this video, I've also upgraded to the double basket and it's great!
@@lizhappybeans I love how the doser and tamper fit into the cup. I just switched the leveler for a safety pin and it is perfectly compact. Now I am looking for a suitable medical bag maybe to pack outin, grinder, scale, 100ml beaker, three coffee jars, tissues and biscuits.
And i didnt even drink coffee that much before buying an Outin. Dam
@Sala_mandr that sounds absolutely lovely! I’m glad it helped you find your love for coffee ❤️☕️
This video is so well made. Well done!
Thank you! I appreciate the support and positive feedback ❤️ hope to see you around for a lot more ☺️
Can it be charged by a power bank?
Yes! It may drain it fast but it’ll work!
Where can we find your double sided coffee glass to buy?
Hi there! These are the exact ones I have -> amzn.to/3tdcTi1 (affiliate link)
I see they're on sale right now, hope you can take advantage!
@@lizhappybeans Thank you so much. I will buy it.
Is it quite good for the crypthoinvestment team?
Wut 😧
@@lizhappybeans I mean if we're outside, deep in the forest right at the coaching process, can we do some coffee breaks using this tool?
Well, you can certainly do so! One cup at a time.
Oooh, very good, thank u so much my gaggia-sister.@@lizhappybeans
the info is great. the quick cut in video is too much. you dont need 5 quick cuts for 1 sentence
Ya I know, it was a concept that didn’t work out how I wanted in the end but the video had to go out 🥲. Thank you!
But does it make espresso or Moka?
Oh, it certainly makes espresso. What I meant to say is that the result is not as dense/thick as an espresso you'd extract from a traditional espresso machine! In all my testing, the coffee was always leaning towards the watery/thin side. Hope that helps clarify!
@@lizhappybeans do you think using less water might improve it?
@@lizhappybeansI have it and use it wirh caps for convenience and I think it makes a real good espresso (for me 80 ml, I like it that way with milk).
Can you make a full cup of coffee with it ? Or just an espresso
It will actually give you the equivalent to 2 shots of espresso!
You can keep add water in the watercontainer while running….
Klk. La pido?
Usa mi cupón de descuento y pídela por la página 😜. La mía me resuelve súper bien.
Absolutely great review. Thank you so much for the insight.🦾
So glad it was helpful! 🙏🏼