yeah i remember that. Almost everybody have Scythe cooler in PC back in 20xx. Recently i purchased their new Fuma 3 cooler and for 50euro is good cooler (and their motherboard compatibility is Excellent for future pc builds) very competetive to Noctua D15S which cost 120euro (chromax)
Scythe Kama and Slipstream, around 15 yeara old, used for years, still working. Kama was a thing when Noctua had P12 pressure fan as best of the bunch and was under 10 euros while Noctua was around 20 to 25 if I remember corectly. Still, P12 had weird pitch boise due to its blade design at around 1000rpm while Kama had just a bit lower pressure but was as silent and half the money. History continues.
The A12 is still considered the best due to its sound frequency. Even the phanteks get super annoying sounds at above 1300 rpm. arctic P12 and uni p28 lian li also have sound issues. It doesn't matter how better a fan is in cfm, static pressure or cooling efficiency if it will produce annoying sounds next to my head, given the pc case is on the table.
Funny how things have changed. Back in the late 90's ( and my late teens ), I liked my CPU fan making noise, it meant it worked and it was kind of like having an engine humming. But now, I'm like everyone else, I like silence.
@@seamon9732 my first 2 pc were loud as hell and I didn't care, you got used to it somehow lol But now, with my gf I share bureau sometimes and since my case ison desk I'd rather keep it performing, but silent if possible.
Great video! What would you say though, is the very best Radiator fan? Like, the very VERY best, price doesn't matter, same for noise. Just raw performance wise on a Radiator? Are the T30 already the maximum, or are there any crazier ones than that?
Phanteks T30 are still the best if talking about "normal" PC fans. Normal being a fan that can safely work at it's max speed and consume less than 1.0 A since just about all motherboard fan headers are rated to up to 1.0 A. You can get better performing fans but they'll be industrial fans that you cannot hook up to a motherboard fan header and are usually much thicker and are usually much much louder and in the 4000-7000 RPM range. For "normal" stuff, Phanteks T30 is still king.
funny how this fan resembles the thermalright TL-B12 almost perfectly and even has the same S-FDB Bearing etc. i am currently using a thermalright Frozen Edge 360 AIO which has the 3 TL-B12 fans and must say they work really well. Also from what i understand they make an extreme model as well which is there 3k Rpm fan version vs the standard 2150RPM and makes me curious if even the standard B12 fan is capable of 3k Rpm but they are limiting it the same way you can limit these Grand tornado's? But just out of the box? Probably not the case lol but it is crazy how much they resemble each other straight down to the bearing they used + the center hub gold nut etc just minus the Lcp material.
Please give us more comparative audio samples!! Love the channel but I really think this is something that's missing. You did it with the AlphaCool Apex Stealth review and it was awesome!!
This was $13 for a while in amazon but zero reviews, I regret not buying it :( As for static pressure performance, maybe you can try it with a thick dense heatsink like NH-U12A?
It's definitely inferior to the T30 and NF A12x25. It seems Scythe needs a proper partner like Nidec to make a revolutionary fan (like the Gentle Typhoon).
I have a pair of those on my Fuma2 now. They can do ~150rpm faster than old Kaz Flex at same noise level, but with noticeable turbulence noise above 1500rpm. FDB bearings are dead quiet tho. Can't complain for the price.
check thermalright tl-b12. they are the same basically but only go up to 2150 rpm. the b12 extrem goes to 3000 rpm but is dual ball bearing, instead of SFDB
@user-qb1nk1ey2d I would say they have different design concepts, noctua A12 focus on Noise/RPM all the way, and Grand Tornedo seems designed to minimize the maximum Noise at full speed. This is smart, since little people can know the difference between 39dB and 40dB.
@@Crunkmaster depends on your situation. In my personal case it interests me to have a relatively silent build, regardless of me having really good headsets when gaming or playing sound. I went for the infinity lian li in the end anyways, the nictua didn't match my build.
Ohh scyte and a "performing" fan... did you try to scratch the sticker off an see Nidec-Servo under it :P And woo 30$ for a fan... better buy 3xT30 then with switchable RPM and for 86$ Anyways the blades on that thing already shows it a high airflow fan not a high pressure fan.. bet that 5.16 whatever is bs.
scythe did not make that dude... its a Nidec Servo relabeled by a company that copy's more stuff then Thermaltake. called Scythe..@@garavonhoiwkenzoiber
@@garavonhoiwkenzoiber Toughfan has subpar bearing and tends to fail or develop noises in less than 3 years though. Even the official MTBF is quite low at 40k hours.
Finally. A fan that can be passed down from generation to generation
Scythe is very underated they were hugely popular once, its always neat to see when people find them and find out how good they are
yeah i remember that. Almost everybody have Scythe cooler in PC back in 20xx. Recently i purchased their new Fuma 3 cooler and for 50euro is good cooler (and their motherboard compatibility is Excellent for future pc builds) very competetive to Noctua D15S which cost 120euro (chromax)
One of the most underrated channels on YT, great review
Scythe Kama and Slipstream, around 15 yeara old, used for years, still working. Kama was a thing when Noctua had P12 pressure fan as best of the bunch and was under 10 euros while Noctua was around 20 to 25 if I remember corectly. Still, P12 had weird pitch boise due to its blade design at around 1000rpm while Kama had just a bit lower pressure but was as silent and half the money. History continues.
I still have 6 of their UltraKaze 120mm 137cfm 3000rpm 47db fans that are 15 years old and still going strong!!.
The A12 is still considered the best due to its sound frequency.
Even the phanteks get super annoying sounds at above 1300 rpm. arctic P12 and uni p28 lian li also have sound issues.
It doesn't matter how better a fan is in cfm, static pressure or cooling efficiency if it will produce annoying sounds next to my head, given the pc case is on the table.
Funny how things have changed.
Back in the late 90's ( and my late teens ), I liked my CPU fan making noise, it meant it worked and it was kind of like having an engine humming.
But now, I'm like everyone else, I like silence.
@@seamon9732 my first 2 pc were loud as hell and I didn't care, you got used to it somehow lol
But now, with my gf I share bureau sometimes and since my case ison desk I'd rather keep it performing, but silent if possible.
be quiet, not the top oressure fans but are silent as it goes from my exp
Another new LCP fan that came out Thermal right TL-B12 Extrem LCP X3, currently seems to be limited to China
Do you plan to do the Wonder Tornado as well? It's significantly less expensive but still looks promising, at least on paper.
Great video! What would you say though, is the very best Radiator fan? Like, the very VERY best, price doesn't matter, same for noise. Just raw performance wise on a Radiator? Are the T30 already the maximum, or are there any crazier ones than that?
Phanteks T30 are still the best if talking about "normal" PC fans. Normal being a fan that can safely work at it's max speed and consume less than 1.0 A since just about all motherboard fan headers are rated to up to 1.0 A. You can get better performing fans but they'll be industrial fans that you cannot hook up to a motherboard fan header and are usually much thicker and are usually much much louder and in the 4000-7000 RPM range. For "normal" stuff, Phanteks T30 is still king.
Man these might be the new best bang for your buck other than noise.. $55 for a 3 pack and theyre very high end
Why don't you include noise recording? also max speed perf is not really indicative, noise normalised would be much more usefull
funny how this fan resembles the thermalright TL-B12 almost perfectly and even has the same S-FDB Bearing etc. i am currently using a thermalright Frozen Edge 360 AIO which has the 3 TL-B12 fans and must say they work really well. Also from what i understand they make an extreme model as well which is there 3k Rpm fan version vs the standard 2150RPM and makes me curious if even the standard B12 fan is capable of 3k Rpm but they are limiting it the same way you can limit these Grand tornado's? But just out of the box? Probably not the case lol but it is crazy how much they resemble each other straight down to the bearing they used + the center hub gold nut etc just minus the Lcp material.
On the same day my Grand Tornado arrived
Why isn't the BQ SW4 Pro in the benchmarl list ?
Please give us more comparative audio samples!! Love the channel but I really think this is something that's missing. You did it with the AlphaCool Apex Stealth review and it was awesome!!
This was $13 for a while in amazon but zero reviews, I regret not buying it :(
As for static pressure performance, maybe you can try it with a thick dense heatsink like NH-U12A?
Thermalright TL-K12
Review please
Noted!
11:10, small correction, the fan is 20 bucks. That is actually a CRAZY good deal for the airflow youre getting.
which fan is better scythe grand tornado or noctua industrial 3000rpm?
If compared to nf f12 industrial 3000rpm, scythe grand tornado is better
There are industrial Gentle Typhoons which are pretty good
It's definitely inferior to the T30 and NF A12x25. It seems Scythe needs a proper partner like Nidec to make a revolutionary fan (like the Gentle Typhoon).
Phanteks/Noctua hybrid. Looks great, whats the price ?
more like a better Gentle Typhoon, which they used to sell under Nidec’s license
I was running out of ideas for starting channel content, but life streaming consumer products until they die might just get me started
thanks!
1:45 the only difference is they added neodymium magnet
Suspiciously absent are the Be Quiet fans....
Cool now do the Wonder Tornado its only 9$ rn
I have a pair of those on my Fuma2 now. They can do ~150rpm faster than old Kaz Flex at same noise level, but with noticeable turbulence noise above 1500rpm. FDB bearings are dead quiet tho. Can't complain for the price.
I prefer Noctua Industrial fans as I have 11 of those 3000 RPM bastards. These are not bad either.
Isn't available in Europe?
Scythe doesn't care about us 😞
check thermalright tl-b12. they are the same basically but only go up to 2150 rpm. the b12 extrem goes to 3000 rpm but is dual ball bearing, instead of SFDB
10 dollers less than A12x25 and work as good as it, good job Scythe.
Worse sound profile than the Noctua tho.
@user-qb1nk1ey2d I would say they have different design concepts, noctua A12 focus on Noise/RPM all the way, and Grand Tornedo seems designed to minimize the maximum Noise at full speed. This is smart, since little people can know the difference between 39dB and 40dB.
@@John-t5q4h people who complain about fan noise are weird. put on some headphones or fuckin crank your speakers up
@@Crunkmaster depends on your situation. In my personal case it interests me to have a relatively silent build, regardless of me having really good headsets when gaming or playing sound.
I went for the infinity lian li in the end anyways, the nictua didn't match my build.
A fan that can last 42 years ??
That last google translate section... Lmao
Is your wooden pc test case for sale? 🤣
Dang, they don't come in white color for this model.
Jesus has Noctuals flagship fell off that hard?
=)
Ohh scyte and a "performing" fan... did you try to scratch the sticker off an see Nidec-Servo under it :P
And woo 30$ for a fan... better buy 3xT30 then with switchable RPM and for 86$
Anyways the blades on that thing already shows it a high airflow fan not a high pressure fan.. bet that 5.16 whatever is bs.
its 20 bucks on newegg rn tho
It only costs 20$
Another day, another copy of the A12X25 😅😅😅
A12x25, a copy of the Nidec Gentle typhoon
Looks like rebranded Noctua
it looks like a copy of a Thermaltake toughfan, which is a copy of the noctua a25, which itself is a copy of the original Scythe the gentle typhoon :v
The noctua is a copy of the gentle typhoon.
scythe did not make that dude... its a Nidec Servo relabeled by a company that copy's more stuff then Thermaltake. called Scythe..@@garavonhoiwkenzoiber
@@garavonhoiwkenzoiber Toughfan has subpar bearing and tends to fail or develop noises in less than 3 years though. Even the official MTBF is quite low at 40k hours.