Jimmy Jean Louis + Yulia Tymoshenko talk colonial bonds

Fogtown.com talks - Jimmy Jean-Louis is an actor, producer, activist, & ambassador-at-large to Haiti. He’s also known for his role as “the Haitian” in NBC’s Heroes. Julia Tymoshenko is a Ukrainian voice speaking to the world about climate justice.
JULIA: In the beginning of 2022, Russia invaded my country. My parents, my dad, and my grandparents survived Russian occupation. My activism started when I realized there was not enough Ukrainian voices in the overall English-speaking media. And: Europe’s dependency on Russian fossil fuels is a critical issue because it enables Putin.
JIMMY: When we have a voice, I think it's good to try to use that voice as best as possible to try to not necessarily change the big issues, but to press on some of the subject matters to make sure that we stay focused on what matters. And if we stay focused, then it might take a few years, but change will come.
JULIA: It's so hard for us now that all of this is happening. We're Ukrainian, so suddenly we’re considered Europeans. Europe started taking a lot of Ukrainian refugees.
JIMMY: I can definitely validate that growing up in Paris. I understand that relationship from all the Eastern European coming down to Paris or London, you know, the way they were treated. The important thing to remember from all of this it's about strategic positioning for some of the superpowers. It's about what can they gain from that region for their own country, how they can benefit.
JULIA: Exactly, suddenly Europe is welcoming to us now, when they weren't before. Before they were like, “Oh, you were like a second grade Europeans.”
JIMMY: And right now, Haiti os not a place that I could I could go to, even though I'm Haitian, because it's so dangerous. And, and the situation is catastrophic, but nobody's doing anything about it. I understand your fight, your struggle with with the opposition as well with your relationship with Europe. But at the end of the day, we have people that are dying. So when we have a voice, I think it's good to try to use that voice as best as possible to try to not necessarily change the big issues, but to press on some of the subject matters to make sure that we stay focused on what matters. And if we stay focused, then it might take a few years, but change will come.