I always focus on the flooring first…. But the Wall being exactly 90* perpendicular is most important for the shower door install!! I learned that this hard way!!
I have tore out so many of those type of pans. In the middle of doing a condo. Showers stacked each one leaking into next unit. Who ever did it initially used the shower drain for a fiberglass base.
Hey Sal starting shower where they have already installed the shower pan and it's wooden and pre sloped never seen that before I guess just schlueter membrane it as is
Removing that much of the Joist could cause problems. I saw a method to use a linear drain in place of the curb and pitch the the base towards the shower opening. This way you don't remove any subfloor or trim the joists. I had concerns about that but if installed correctly it avoids a lot of structural problems or other mechanicals underneath interference. Sal, you have done everything and love all your videos, have you ever done it this way?
Awesome! I’m putting in hydroban walls and Laticrete pre-sloped linear drain pan (would have the drain on the far right in the shower you just showed). Question: is Laticrete adhesive sufficient, like Laticrete indicate for the pan/wall interface or would you still band or use hydroban liquid membrane on those joints?
He uses mapie 4to1, lots on manufactures make there own. Quickrete and sakrete sand mix 60lbs bags works too. Just mix sand in the mix to make it 4 to1. Half a 50lbs bag of sand to every 60lbs bag of topping mix.
Depending on concrete thickness and type of poor, you can cut groove and bust them out. I beam and truss use foam pan made for that. You cant alter trusses and I beams, best you can do is drop the floor 3/4". Unless you get a engineer and GC to do it for you.
Although shleuter is a great product, the hydrban boards tend to be more stiff with less flexibility or squishyness which tends to be better for tile install as for the uncoupling membrane between schluter or other brands I haven't seen a huge difference. Also brands like schleuter and others will normally not warranty any of the installs if you don't use all of their products. At the end of the day availability plays a huge factor as no one wants to wait months to get the job done so we do what we can.
@@hereticxxx9317 What if I used a different Tile Backer, like DensShield, Kerdi Board, etc? Can I seal the joints with Mesh Tape and Thinset? Because the sealant I see most people use is white so I was wondering what that is
@@prettyfuego9158 kerdi uses kerdi band Hydro ban board uses sealant, banding or hydro ban with mess tape Go board- sealant Prova sealant or banding Cement board grey mesh tape, mortar and roll on waterproofing or sheet membrane. Sheetrock- waterproof sheet membrane only. Dense shield- I dont use it Very general guidelines, follow manufactures instruction and you wont go wrong. Laticrete systems are the best to me but they all work.
@@hereticxxx9317 Thanks a lot for the information. What's your go-to tile backer? For its price and quality. I'm a young contractor and want to know what's the best quality, easiest installation, and a good price for the client that I can use for every job.
@@prettyfuego9158 laticrete all day, most versatile system. Learn to pour pans and do a traditional water in water out system, even if you don't install them. Dont just learn foam pans and foam boards. Learn all the ways to build a shower and all the different systems and you'll be able to fit any budget and make money.
How do you do the water leak test in a curbless shower? doesn't code requires that you fill the shower and let it sit overnight? Do you recommend the Schluter method? ua-cam.com/video/9gK9Jh3nT_E/v-deo.html
Flood test depends on your local codes, not needed in my area, but I flood test every shower. For a curbless shower you have to construct a temporary barrier of some kind.
Why not just raise the main bathroom floor by adding a sheet of plywood and lea e the shower area alone ...same difference is not and you don't have to cut your floor joice or anything like tht..
@SalDiBlasi yea I'm adding plywood down in the bedroom as well i wpuld rather do it this way than to just start cutting into my floor and shaving off floor joices... the way this giy did it hey props to him but man that seems like alot more hassle than just building up the floor.
Sal, your videos are the best, anything that comes up fixing up my house, you've covered, thank You for taking the time to show us how its done
I always focus on the flooring first…. But the Wall being exactly 90* perpendicular is most important for the shower door install!! I learned that this hard way!!
Love your videos!! Everyone makes mistakes but how you catch it and fix it is what makes you a professional!! Keep up the good work!!!😎🌴🤙
I have tore out so many of those type of pans. In the middle of doing a condo. Showers stacked each one leaking into next unit. Who ever did it initially used the shower drain for a fiberglass base.
Greetings all.
Would it not be better to place shower pan membrane first, banding next then corners?
Like you did the Ditra
Thanks for the tips well done Sal
😊👍
I commented a couple years ago and you replied. Now to update you, he is getting close to finishing the bathroom he started long time ago.
Thanks for sharing 😇
Just found your channel, great stuff my man. Sub'ing right now.
Great video as always. Seems that boilers are a lot more common in your area than mine
How would you prep a curbless shower transition for LFT’s outside the shower and smaller mosaic tiles inside the shower on the floor?
What if the floor outside the shower isn’t level? For example in a basement with concrete? Self level outside the shower area?
Hey Sal starting shower where they have already installed the shower pan and it's wooden and pre sloped never seen that before I guess just schlueter membrane it as is
The pitch is what it is because of your corners but sure.. More aggressive.. 😄👍🏼
Seems tricky to get the drain height proper, but you made it look simple. I guess with pluming in place could be a bit trickier.
1/4" per foot based on the longest point from drain center. That number is the distance below the floor the drain is set.
Removing that much of the Joist could cause problems. I saw a method to use a linear drain in place of the curb and pitch the the base towards the shower opening. This way you don't remove any subfloor or trim the joists. I had concerns about that but if installed correctly it avoids a lot of structural problems or other mechanicals underneath interference.
Sal, you have done everything and love all your videos, have you ever done it this way?
So thinset can be applied to LATICRETE HYDRO BAN ADHESIVE AND SEALANT?
Awesome! I’m putting in hydroban walls and Laticrete pre-sloped linear drain pan (would have the drain on the far right in the shower you just showed). Question: is Laticrete adhesive sufficient, like Laticrete indicate for the pan/wall interface or would you still band or use hydroban liquid membrane on those joints?
Sal nice work. How do you treat the seam between the hyrdoban and ceiling joint? Thank you! Jeff
What is used for the mud bed? What's the best mix and where do you get it?
He uses mapie 4to1, lots on manufactures make there own. Quickrete and sakrete sand mix 60lbs bags works too. Just mix sand in the mix to make it 4 to1. Half a 50lbs bag of sand to every 60lbs bag of topping mix.
@@hereticxxx9317 Thank you!!
I’m assuming if I was installing the Ditra heat mat outside the shower instead of Ditra XL it would be the exact same method?! Correct??!!
correct
Thanks Sal. Love your work!! Always trying to learn more and improve. And Happy New Year.
Sal any reason not to run the ditra over the shower, to add an element of uncoupling? Thanks for the awesome videos!!!
Because he needs a Slope to drain water, also waterproofing.
Sal, what’s the minimum thickness of the dry pac mortar bed? Great job as always. Regards
I believe it’s 3/8 of an inch. However, good practice is too add 1/4 of inch per every foot.
How would you do a curbless if the foundation is a slab, I-beams or trusses?
Depending on concrete thickness and type of poor, you can cut groove and bust them out. I beam and truss use foam pan made for that. You cant alter trusses and I beams, best you can do is drop the floor 3/4". Unless you get a engineer and GC to do it for you.
Hi, Sal! Is there a reason why you choose Hydro ban board but the Schleuter products for the rest? Just curious.
Right now kerdi is hard to find
Although shleuter is a great product, the hydrban boards tend to be more stiff with less flexibility or squishyness which tends to be better for tile install as for the uncoupling membrane between schluter or other brands I haven't seen a huge difference. Also brands like schleuter and others will normally not warranty any of the installs if you don't use all of their products. At the end of the day availability plays a huge factor as no one wants to wait months to get the job done so we do what we can.
would the band be ok to install after the floor sheet?
No
Doesn't matter what order you go in
Did he do a video on his shower board installation? What material is used to waterproof the seams/joints?
Laticrete sealant, they make their own sealant
@@hereticxxx9317 What if I used a different Tile Backer, like DensShield, Kerdi Board, etc? Can I seal the joints with Mesh Tape and Thinset? Because the sealant I see most people use is white so I was wondering what that is
@@prettyfuego9158 kerdi uses kerdi band
Hydro ban board uses sealant, banding or hydro ban with mess tape
Go board- sealant
Prova sealant or banding
Cement board grey mesh tape, mortar and roll on waterproofing or sheet membrane.
Sheetrock- waterproof sheet membrane only.
Dense shield- I dont use it
Very general guidelines, follow manufactures instruction and you wont go wrong.
Laticrete systems are the best to me but they all work.
@@hereticxxx9317 Thanks a lot for the information. What's your go-to tile backer? For its price and quality. I'm a young contractor and want to know what's the best quality, easiest installation, and a good price for the client that I can use for every job.
@@prettyfuego9158 laticrete all day, most versatile system. Learn to pour pans and do a traditional water in water out system, even if you don't install them. Dont just learn foam pans and foam boards. Learn all the ways to build a shower and all the different systems and you'll be able to fit any budget and make money.
Also, you should run the strip banding over the large banding, 2”. Mainly because manufactures call for that.
I know we didn’t get to see!? But, did you also RedGuard to take additional waterproofing measures?
How do you do the water leak test in a curbless shower? doesn't code requires that you fill the shower and let it sit overnight? Do you recommend the Schluter method? ua-cam.com/video/9gK9Jh3nT_E/v-deo.html
Flood test depends on your local codes, not needed in my area, but I flood test every shower. For a curbless shower you have to construct a temporary barrier of some kind.
Why not just raise the main bathroom floor by adding a sheet of plywood and lea e the shower area alone ...same difference is not and you don't have to cut your floor joice or anything like tht..
Then you have a step up at all the doors. This way they are flush.
@SalDiBlasi yea I'm adding plywood down in the bedroom as well i wpuld rather do it this way than to just start cutting into my floor and shaving off floor joices... the way this giy did it hey props to him but man that seems like alot more hassle than just building up the floor.
@SalDiBlasi I'm using barn doors everywhere in my bathroom and hallway area...I appreciate your time sir and knowledge.