To be fair, charging only 15% more for business class back then really means that the current business seat hasn't changed much in price - the economy seat has just got drastically cheaper!
Also, that business class Qantas is offering sounds a lot like premium economy today, which isn't an arm and a leg more. First class has been getting phased out and business has just been taking its place. It's kind of weird how not much has changed, other than names.
Great video, actually funny too everyone should have a sense of humour when travelling!! I travel Qatar on a regular basis so pleased you mentioned the chaotic boarding experience; I've experienced the same in Doha and Heathrow they need to sort it out
I'm glad I found your review, first time flying on Qatar. I'm leaving in 2 days, transiting through Doha. I have viewed some other sites but you are one of the best because you addressed things that others didn't find significant. I'm now worried about getting to my connecting flight there due to a short time frame. Thanks.
Great review including all the extra information. Q Suite looks good and very spacious width wise. Glad to see my favourite apex suite got a mention in your dodgy graph 🤣🤣. Last few months did JAL Sydney to London return in the apex suite which was great as I had the window seat with the door/partition which is very private too!
@@FlightFormula They are mate, love your sense of humour and looked liked a pretty good flight, I would like a review that didn't go for the Mezze plate on Qatar or Emirates. Busting to see the other choices, cheers
I flew the 777 qsuite from MEL to DOH and had like 5 of those pineapple mocktails, they're DELICIOUS. The seat was easily the best business class seat i've ever flown, was a treat to fly for 14 hours. The a la carte dining is amazing not having to have set meal times. The meal options on that flight I had a steak which was the best steak on a flight ever, I really hope you get to try a longer flight with qatar. I used velocity points so was fantastic value. Great video! I really enjoyed the history in this one, didn't know the seat wasn't designed by Qatar. Also agree with the bed mode, it needs a mattress pad to make it more comfortable.
I'm flying QSuites next year with a 3 year old, and selected those two backwards-facing seats that sit adjacent in the middle, half of a family unit. Flying BNE-DOH. Hopefully he doesn't keep the whole biz cabin up. Fingers crossed they don't switch up the plane last minute
In the last few months I’ve flown a bunch of times with Qatar, on their A350 Qsuite as well as A350 and 787-9 non Qsuite and legacy 777 2-2-2 business. The Qsuite is night and day compared to the others, particularly the 2-2-2 which doesn’t even really give you a flat bed (although no foot-cubby is nice). I’ve never flown 1st so can’t compare to that, but the Qsuite experience is the best business seat I’ve flown bar none.
Thanks for putting all that effort into making those seat density graphs based off very scientific calculations haha … That’s the geekiness we love but it does give interesting insight. Would be curious to see how SQ seats compare
Good review as always Simon … very keen to try Qsuites on a longer flight. Technically I flew it when Qatar was operating Auckland to Adelaide but I don’t think a four hour flight really counts. 😝 Out of interest, how was the boarding process in Doha? I’ve read quite a few reviews suggesting it can be a bit chaotic/disorganised, including for premium passengers. 🤔 Appreciate that comparison on seats per fuselage metre! ✅🤣
@@lewininja250r I’ve been on various Qatar planes from Doha on business class, I’ve always found it a little chaotic. Once you get through the gate and head towards the plane, it’s all good. But getting into the gate and from the gate onto the plane could improve
Your videos made me realize no one airline has the best of best biz class without any drawback. It's a matter of choice, service over comfort, comfort over service, either over IFE etc. I thought Qatar is best, but lack of padding for lie-down is a deal-breaker for me. I need comfort for good sleep, and i travel biz so that i can sleep on planes.😢 Btw, talking about fleets, its very similar with SQ. But SQ is managed very well. You get the right aircraft as promised most of the time, something QR just somehow can't keep up with. Same with their ground staff. They actually tried learning from SQ but just can't get to that same standard. Pretty interesting as when QR first established, they took in a whole lot of ex-SQ staff to emulate SQ and be a strong competitor. Fun fact. Hence why many of their service standards are uncannily SQ.
Whether it's QSuite or the reverse herringbone on the Qatar A380 (and the awesome onboard bar), there just isn't a better business class product on any other airline in my opinion. Everything feels more premium on Qatar. The food, the service, the cutlery and plates, the lounge at Doha, and my favourite thing, dine on demand. Qatar for the win every time.
Loving the social observations, porn guy on the train, sleezy guy 2 seats up and possible groomer in the middle seats! I’m guessing the next video will top them all. Great video as always Simon.
excellent video ! I'm sorry I can't undestand feet and inches, can you please put the equivalent in meter or it is too much work for you ? And is it possible to test business class from an European carrier in the future ? Thx for your videos, it's always great to see !
I don't understand the ages of the man and woman being "very relevant in next video" I assumed you meant next clip but is there another video to come where it becomes relevant
It's already clear from hundreds of reviews and numerous awards that Qatar Airways is the top choice for business class among all airlines. So, what's the point of your video?
People should boycott Qatar Airways. Watch Josh Cahill's 2 most recent vids on them. Long story short apparently they mistreat their flight crew, underpay them, & fired the flight crew of Josh Cahill's 2 most recent flights because he left a negative review.
dont hate on an older man with a young woman... if you got divorced at that age you wouldnt want a woman in your age bracket who got divorced for probably the same reasons as you did. nice video anyway
To be fair, charging only 15% more for business class back then really means that the current business seat hasn't changed much in price - the economy seat has just got drastically cheaper!
Good point!
Also, that business class Qantas is offering sounds a lot like premium economy today, which isn't an arm and a leg more. First class has been getting phased out and business has just been taking its place. It's kind of weird how not much has changed, other than names.
great way to spend my arvo, watching a flight formula yap sesh
lets gooooo
Best legs and most natural presentation among Flight review UA-camrs.
I like Qatar's approach of focusing more on business rather than first class. Qatar's business experience is better than most first class experiences
Not true.
@@dodaz5604 you must have had a bad experience then or were unlucky to fly on the dreaded 2-2-2 configuration
Flew Qsuites to South Africa and back from the US. My wife and I loved every single second of it. No other way to fly! Can’t wait for 2.0
The memes never fail to make the video better.
Your stabilizer moving with the plane banking at 4:20 is so cool to see wtf
Another splendid video, Simon. Still my favourite flight reviewer. Welcome back legs!
Thanks mate!
Love your videos mate, very entertaining as always
Great video, actually funny too everyone should have a sense of humour when travelling!! I travel Qatar on a regular basis so pleased you mentioned the chaotic boarding experience; I've experienced the same in Doha and Heathrow they need to sort it out
Love your work. You need to fly and post more my friend!! Keep it up!
I'm glad I found your review, first time flying on Qatar. I'm leaving in 2 days, transiting through Doha. I have viewed some other sites but you are one of the best because you addressed things that others didn't find significant. I'm now worried about getting to my connecting flight there due to a short time frame. Thanks.
HAHAHA, "Look at this Graph!". Mate, bluddy hilarious.
My new fav UA-cam channel? Actually I think yes
@crumpler You guys needs to sponsor this guy. From Melbourne, using your products and pumping out quality videos. Much love.
Hahaha I’ll take some free bags…
Phenomenal video as always mate
Cheers!
Great review including all the extra information. Q Suite looks good and very spacious width wise. Glad to see my favourite apex suite got a mention in your dodgy graph 🤣🤣.
Last few months did JAL Sydney to London return in the apex suite which was great as I had the window seat with the door/partition which is very private too!
Apex suites are pretty good!!
@@FlightFormula They are mate, love your sense of humour and looked liked a pretty good flight, I would like a review that didn't go for the Mezze plate on Qatar or Emirates. Busting to see the other choices, cheers
I flew the 777 qsuite from MEL to DOH and had like 5 of those pineapple mocktails, they're DELICIOUS. The seat was easily the best business class seat i've ever flown, was a treat to fly for 14 hours. The a la carte dining is amazing not having to have set meal times. The meal options on that flight I had a steak which was the best steak on a flight ever, I really hope you get to try a longer flight with qatar. I used velocity points so was fantastic value. Great video! I really enjoyed the history in this one, didn't know the seat wasn't designed by Qatar. Also agree with the bed mode, it needs a mattress pad to make it more comfortable.
Awesome overview man… I did get distracted at some point, but it was a good distraction. Don’t mind such…. 😉
Hahahaha thanks
...huh? 😳
15:06 you missed an opportunity to include “thats what she said!” with Michael being in the background😂
Ahhh you’re right, next time!
I am pretty sure that a Qantas return business class airfare is significantly more expensive departing Australia vs departing from anywhere else.
Notifsquaaaaaad!!!! 🎉❤😊 LOVE your vlogs!!!!
LFG!!!!
@@FlightFormulaBoom! 💯🔥🥳
I'm flying QSuites next year with a 3 year old, and selected those two backwards-facing seats that sit adjacent in the middle, half of a family unit. Flying BNE-DOH. Hopefully he doesn't keep the whole biz cabin up. Fingers crossed they don't switch up the plane last minute
Hope sleepy simon had a good snooze!
45 mins of good sleep!
They still offer a free flight change if you get Qatar'd! Just did it last week.
In the last few months I’ve flown a bunch of times with Qatar, on their A350 Qsuite as well as A350 and 787-9 non Qsuite and legacy 777 2-2-2 business. The Qsuite is night and day compared to the others, particularly the 2-2-2 which doesn’t even really give you a flat bed (although no foot-cubby is nice). I’ve never flown 1st so can’t compare to that, but the Qsuite experience is the best business seat I’ve flown bar none.
Legacy 777 is the polar opposite of qsuites
Qatars my fave also love the vids Simon
Thanks for putting all that effort into making those seat density graphs based off very scientific calculations haha … That’s the geekiness we love but it does give interesting insight. Would be curious to see how SQ seats compare
New fan here from Philippines but currently here in Doha Qatar
Did it feel weird facing ‘down’ during take off as you were facing backwards?!
Nah not at all!
Thanks again for a great video! Out of curiosity, what do you use for your video capture? Including mics/stands? Thanks.
It changes a lot, currently an Osmo 3, Action 4, my iPhone, and an Insta 360 X3
Nice video. I fly Qsuites Bali to Miami (via Doha) next February
Yeah boi - love your work!
Glad you enjoy it!
Good review as always Simon … very keen to try Qsuites on a longer flight. Technically I flew it when Qatar was operating Auckland to Adelaide but I don’t think a four hour flight really counts. 😝
Out of interest, how was the boarding process in Doha? I’ve read quite a few reviews suggesting it can be a bit chaotic/disorganised, including for premium passengers. 🤔
Appreciate that comparison on seats per fuselage metre! ✅🤣
It’s a bit chaotic, ground staff need more training on so many levels
The gate I was at for my first class A380 trip had a separate pre boarding area to economy and everything seemed quite smooth?
@@lewininja250r I’ve been on various Qatar planes from Doha on business class, I’ve always found it a little chaotic. Once you get through the gate and head towards the plane, it’s all good. But getting into the gate and from the gate onto the plane could improve
You should try the Qatar 787-9 suite.
Your videos made me realize no one airline has the best of best biz class without any drawback. It's a matter of choice, service over comfort, comfort over service, either over IFE etc. I thought Qatar is best, but lack of padding for lie-down is a deal-breaker for me. I need comfort for good sleep, and i travel biz so that i can sleep on planes.😢 Btw, talking about fleets, its very similar with SQ. But SQ is managed very well. You get the right aircraft as promised most of the time, something QR just somehow can't keep up with. Same with their ground staff. They actually tried learning from SQ but just can't get to that same standard. Pretty interesting as when QR first established, they took in a whole lot of ex-SQ staff to emulate SQ and be a strong competitor. Fun fact. Hence why many of their service standards are uncannily SQ.
You should bring a laptop or a steam deck/handheld and play msfs using the hdmi
1.29 is that elvis 😂
When was the last time you had a Bunnings charity snag
Would’ve got one today but got there too late!
Did you visit the lounge?
Yep, I did a video on that a little while ago!
Great video
Love the personality and all the history in your reviews! The Gen Z memes are much appreciated by a fellow young aviation geek. Keep up the good work!
10:20 Wow so this is why flying solely to Doha is so damn expensive. Shame though, wouldn't this discourage tourism to the country itself?
Now I keep hearing about AeroLopa and its so funny because I found out about it around a month ago! Way better than seatguru and is more detailed!
Hyped shit. Especially as Qatar doesn't have it on much of the fleet. I keep getting a shitty 2-3-2 777 instead.
Whether it's QSuite or the reverse herringbone on the Qatar A380 (and the awesome onboard bar), there just isn't a better business class product on any other airline in my opinion. Everything feels more premium on Qatar. The food, the service, the cutlery and plates, the lounge at Doha, and my favourite thing, dine on demand. Qatar for the win every time.
Loving the social observations, porn guy on the train, sleezy guy 2 seats up and possible groomer in the middle seats!
I’m guessing the next video will top them all.
Great video as always Simon.
Hahaha glad to hear that, definitely not a groomer in the middle, all will be revealed in next weeks video!
Out of interest, did you book this with Qantas or Velocity points? I know they are One World but seem to have cut Qantas off
Paid ticket but cheap, watch my cheap business class ticket video for more details!
hey, what a nice surprise!
Nice review
Thanks!
Flight Fromula vids bout to have Wattage Tests on the USB ports and Latency Tests on airplane HDMI ports 👀 👀 👀 👀
Now you’re thinking…
More wearing of shorts pleases!
Hahaha 🫡
I liked the hot tea on your other fellow passengers 😏
Hahahaha
excellent video ! I'm sorry I can't undestand feet and inches, can you please put the equivalent in meter or it is too much work for you ? And is it possible to test business class from an European carrier in the future ? Thx for your videos, it's always great to see !
any macadamia nuts bro?
Best Office episode. 15:08
lets see what we got here!
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this guy is handsome
Clip the microphone to your shirt.. it always looks like you are about to eat the mic.
Would probably taste good though!
I don't understand the ages of the man and woman being "very relevant in next video" I assumed you meant next clip but is there another video to come where it becomes relevant
5:19 it’s okay to say sugar baby
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Why judge people and their ages if people are happy let them be… the famous saying “ judge me when you are perfect”
I don’t agree to shorts in business class, they usually is a standard at least make an effort.
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big nose things bro 😝
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Poor service. I took Qatar airways once, hopefully will never take it again.
Interesting!
I think for Qatar, the crew is just inconsistent. But not every flight is the same.
It's already clear from hundreds of reviews and numerous awards that Qatar Airways is the top choice for business class among all airlines. So, what's the point of your video?
You’d be fun to have a beer with ay
@@FlightFormula I prefer wine. As long as you're offering.
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Sorry but you are too judgemental of people around you! An older guy with a younger woman is ' a bit suss' ..... Seriously. Mind your own business 😢😢😢
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People should boycott Qatar Airways. Watch Josh Cahill's 2 most recent vids on them. Long story short apparently they mistreat their flight crew, underpay them, & fired the flight crew of Josh Cahill's 2 most recent flights because he left a negative review.
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food looks terrible
dont hate on an older man with a young woman... if you got divorced at that age you wouldnt want a woman in your age bracket who got divorced for probably the same reasons as you did. nice video anyway
😂
Not hating and all will be revealed next week 🫡
Stop trying to justify your creepiness 😂 it is what it is.
@@cornellcornell1 clearly haven't lived very long mate lol, know plenty of old guys who don't want another annoying old hag it's as simple as that.
No, that’s just creepy. Imagine a 60 year old guy with a 20 year old woman. Although it is legal, it is weird.
Marry me
Dress better.
lol smd
@@FlightFormula 😭
Bros thighs are so thin lol. Anyway, nice video!
Love the absolute neg here, will hit the squat rack🫡
@@FlightFormula 😂😂haha good on ya lad!
@@FlightFormulaNo don't.. I'm already jealous of your handsome face. Keep that lesser features for the rest of us😅
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