The New BEST Middleweight Naked Bike? | CFMOTO 800NK First Ride and Review
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It's finally here! The CFMOTO 800NK. Based on the KTM Duke 790, but only $8,599. Is this thing the new best middleweight naked bike?
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00:00 - Intro
01:30 - Specs
02:48 - Tech
04:31 - Highway Test
08:47 - Twisty Road Test
13:50 - Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
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I can’t believe how much I like the styling on all CF-Moto’s stuff.
It’s a little busy
agreed
Because most of their design does a guy that does design for MV Agusta
@@cube1cze actually their chief design engineer for their Street division came from Ducati, which can be seen in the design element of the 450 SR/SS. Either way they have a very menacing and distinct look that kind of sets them apart from the rest of the players in these segments and not in a bad way at all. If you were to strip the brand decals from the bike you would easily mistake these as European manufactured machines.
@cube1cze this is not true at all despite the similarities to the 3cyl benelli tnt. Adrian Morton seems to doing design consulting now after he stepped down at mv.
My wife has a CFMoto 650NK and I've been waiting for this model in my area. I've fallen in love with CFMoto over the last few years.
The entire review can be summed up in these 20 sec 4:31 to 4:51. The feeling it gives you and the smile it puts on your face :)
Thanks for the awesome Vid, Spite; it was fantastic to hear your overview and first impressions, and I'm looking forward to that comparison with the MT-09 SP!
Great review, I was waiting for this.
I bought a Chinese Z650, a.k.a. the CFMoto 700CL-X, and I'm loving it so far. Very solidly built moto for what I paid for it and it's a blast to ride around town. It was between it and an MT-07 and the handling on it blew the MT away, especially the suspension and braking.
I got the 650nk and really enjoyed it. Only sold it because I have to move and it helps
I thought that one was KTM based rather than Kawi?
I bought the cf moto 450sr and I love. Except for the dealer not putting enough oil in the bike for the first 1450ks, as someone who has ridden daily for nearly 20 years... it's really awesome.
@@maxharris6012 it's basically a stroked out 650 kawi engine
There is a abs recall on the cl700....
Hell yeah Im getting to ride one at our Honda! I'm very excited for the big boi bikes from cf moto to finally drop
I went to a powersports dealership the other day, and got to look at some bikes (window shopping for the future) got to see some of CFmoto’s bikes in person. once I get a garage I may want to get one of these. My dad’s garage has nothing but Honda in it. I think CFmoto is just the kind of bike for me. They just need more peeps to try em out.
Loving the Vmax pulling up alongside 😎 Spite
that looked like some pretty stellar traffic you got there in austin.
Spite, loved how you just steered around the cow (pun intended) without missing a beat and with no comment, like it just happens every day here in Texas!
Had a 2022 CFMOTO CLX-700 for around 3,000 miles. Absolutely loved it. Only got rid of it because i a big aftermarket guy and love to make things mine...cfmoto doesnt have quite the aftermarket support just yet from 3rd party manufacturers. Miss it but glad i switched to a Yamaha XSR
I rode the Papio SS and was surprised with how good it felt and all the amenities it came with standard. Specially for a mini bike. CFMOTO is doing some really cool things in the two wheel space.
gonna be a fun bike to play with. cant wait to see more.
I bought the CFMOTO 650GT for my first bike as I'm a bit older and have some back problems. The riding position is so comfortable its a fun bike because its defiantly not "Fast" so you can ride the crap out of it and you are hardly breaking the speed limit. as for quality, it's well put together everything is tight and feels good but I have only had it for 2 months so I cant talk to the reliability piece yet but I haven't seen any red flags from other owners.
I did a testride on a 800NK like this. And I agree pretty much on everything you said. Definitly in that price range... I doubt you can find a bette new bike
I must confess that I wouldn't mind this bike.
Excellent review. Nick
That laugh you gave was legendary 😂 every biker knows that one 😁👍
Have seen one yesterday going through a corner
Looks modern but kinda very "not in your face" almost like a honda when it is just moving and not minding details
Sounded really nice for a Euro5 stock engine.
getting this as my first bike and i cant wait! im a relatively tall guy at 6'4" and i feel comfy on this bike and could see myself using it for long rides, plus its the perfect amount of sporty and comforbilaty that i was looking for
THIS! Plus the fact that it has cruise control. I'm 6'3" with boots on and I struggle to find a comfortable bike.
I've been waiting for a good review from an American UA-camr. Thanks!!! Keep it up and I can't wait for the other videos to come out. MSC out of Mississippi has tunes on the other cfmoto bikes. You should check them out.
I’m hoping to see a video on the 450 nk soon. I’m looking at possibly getting the 450 or a z650 as my 2nd bike
looks like a really nice ride and good value. One I would consider if CFMoto was here in AK.
Spite ... WHAT gloves are those?? I LOVE 'em!
Ive had the Ibex 800 T for 3 months and have over 2000 miles on it with no issues. CF Moto are doing great things! I'd recommend their bikes to anyone.
i would not
@@lawrencedavidson296 care to explain why?
I was looking at this bike last night online parallel twin 800cc 100 hp about 80 nm of torque… impressive.
J-Jaun was bought out by Brembo and they made some of the best braided brake lines. It's like Craftsman was bought by Dewalt and as other company's was and you could take a plant tour and see every brand they bought being built under the same roof with the Logo Dewalt on it. My CF loves 5 to 6 grand where the PowerBar comes on strong and its an NK. I have no complaints. I with mine and I have had it almost a year. I have only heard one person on these videos mention the Bosch fuel injection with dual overhead cams and the navigation system or the 45 degree engine shut off it has or slipper clutch.
Hoping they will be available in New Zealand soon. Also waiting for the new 450MT
The 450mt is the first Chinese bike I've been excited about. Hopefully Spite will get one when it becomes available.
I've been watching all you cf moto videos with interest, but i also bough an early Hyosung back in the day and im scared
that laugh sold me on it
I bought a used 2023 650nk, with less than 300 miles on it for a steal of a price. I didn’t ask any questions I just bit the bullet. It’s an awesome freaking bike and I can’t believe they aren’t more popular but in a way in glad too because everyone doesn’t have one and it gets tons of looks and rides like a champ. I get GPS and it have different ride modes and ABS front and back…Perelli tires, it’s like a secret weapon nobody knows about yet.
You guys in the states don’t seem to have the advanced model according to the USA website, The advanced model adds keyless, steering dampener, quick shift, and Apple CarPlay ready 8” screen. Done nearly 1000kms in Australia and loving this bike. The app logs all the rides, sends notifications if the bike is moved or vibration is detected so essentially if it’s stolen you can find it quickly and on top of all that it has an auto wake feature when your walking towards the bike (just like some cars). The competition offers none of the apps features let alone at this price. Gizmos aside it performs and rides very well. I worked for Motorrad for years and the connected ride app ain’t nearly as polished, Shows how much the other brands are taking everyone for a ride (literally)!
As well as the great value bike I’m loving those gloves and jacket watching from England UK 🇬🇧🤙
Cool you got to ride one of your most anticipated motorcycles, happy for you!
Funny you mention people want to see a lot of tech and/or features for the lowest price as possible or the most reasonable price I guess?
While I am here sitting like: ...uhm.. nah..don't need lean angle sensors, anti wheelie control, ride modes and what not. Meanwhile my bike although having heated grips and a windshield added/ It doesn't have ABS (it is optional when it was released a lot of them were sold with) no traction control or ride modes etc. Just an analog RPM gauge a display with time, coolant temp, fuel gauge, speed in km/h and of course total km's ridden and obviously the indicators, neutral indicator, low beam high beam control light and an engine check light I think which I can't confirm since that hasn't lighted up, lol.
I get rider aids are useful especially traction control and ABS, I see value in that, and sure cruise control can be a nice feature as well. Same anti wheelie stuff for safety but it wouldn't be my demands for bike. Maybe later they'll become more of thing or something idk. So far just really happy with my bike and the features it has. Really learns me how to handle a bike without helping aids. Note: Not opposed to any of the technologies being added on bikes or cars even, but I do think they are overdoing it occasionally.
There is a advance version that has a vertical 8” touch screen and has a steering dampener & up/down shifter, unfortunately no traction control, yet. That is coming in the next iteration. I chose the 8S because I have very cold & slippery roads here. I wanted TC. I paid more but was okay with that. Cheers🤙
The omission of traction control on advanced model raises eyebrows. My 11 year old poverty pack Hyperstrada has 9 levels of TC
Do you not get the Advance model in the states? As in Australia the one you are riding is the entry level Sports. The Advance comes with a tablet sized display, up and down QS and a steering stabiliser as standard with cruise control. It’s about $1,000 USD more.
dude this video & your utterly immature laughter is everything i need to know about this bike ahaha thank you again spite! CFMOTO for the win!!
Maybe in time that the issues will come out specially components other than the engine. Wirings, ignition coil, cooling pump, etc
Question
What would you say the power and Torque is in the different modes
Sport vs Street vs Rain
Does the rain mode take the snap out the throttle and tame it down to the halfway point
The bike is priced well. It just has to get past the stigma.(im part of the problem) when it comes to bikes like these i think Japanese first. I like the color scheme not loud like the KTM. Cfmoto just needs to get some traction as new riders move up from the NK300 and 450SS they will have a built in customer base. Great value for the money.
I think the stigma persists mostly because people don't try them. Every CFMOTO I've ridden has been bad ass.
@@spitescorner The stigma isn't that they're bad, it's that they won't last. Still no devoted dealers in the UK...
@@dreamcrusher112 maybe in that part of the world but here in asia, there's plenty of nk400, nk650, gt650 with literally no problems going 5+ years and 30k+ kms. The only bike that had power loss problems due to electronics was the 1st version of the nk400 which was sorted out by CFmoto the 1st year of them selling. I was interested by nk400 then but the problem for me was for a 400cc it's weight rivals that of the 650 class. But when they released 800nk in ph. I was one of the first to buy and needless to say, of all the bikes I've owned(all japanese) 800nk, imo, has better build quality than all my previous bikes. I'm at 5k kms now and no issues so far aside from the gas consumption, maybe because of my riding style.
@@dreamcrusher112to add. In terms of reliability I think that testing a bike in the tropical countries of asia is the best barometer. The horrific traffic + the average temp would test the quality of the engines. That's why you'll rarely see guys who owns Ducati's, Aprillia's use their bike daily here. I owned a monster 795 before and the heat from the V engine on standstill traffic was just unbearable and every hour of riding it in traffic I need to find a place to cool off the bike because of overheating since it's air-cooled
@@9LB.hammer and if they fell apart due to rust from salted roads? Doubt they salt them often in Saigon. There simply aren’t enough of them yet to make a decision in the West, as our requirements are different.
Only someone from Texas would dodge a cow in the middle of the street and not even make a comment. I am with you, brother. I live right down the street from you and Yam's.
Looks better than it's KTM 790's cousin. More than CF Moto vids please.
I test rode the 450ss and the CX-L a while back. I was pleasantly surprised by both, but especially the 450ss. They both felt very well made (aside from weirdly squishy turn signal switches, and a very strange power band on the CX-L). I think that if they could just somehow convince more people to test them out, the stigma would wane quite a bit. People scream about China with this sort of thing, but don't even blink twice when buying something from Walmart or Amazon that is almost certainly made in China.
I'm personally very interested in the NK800. It seems to tick all the boxes that I'm interested in and at a ludicrous price point.
Planning to get a 450sr as a 1st bike😌
That's because when we buy things made from China at Walmart or Amazon, the price we pay, including taxes, is clearly listed with the product along with a generous return policy is the item does not work as intended. With CFMotor (or any manufacturer for that matter), we know not price nor reliability, and there is no return policy whatsoever.
Let me leave you with a quote from my nearest CFMoto dealership that's advertising a leftover year CL-700 for $4900. "Advertised pricing excludes applicable taxes title and licensing, dealer set up, destination, reconditioning and are subject to change without notice."
@@langhamp8912 Well, the argument about hidden fees, etc. applies to any bike you buy no matter the manufacturer. They never include the freight/tax/tag/title/assembly fees on the sticker, that's just something that pretty much every dealership does irrespective of the brand. As far as reliability, I understand that stigma a bit more since a lot of Chinese bikes in the past have been pretty terrible, but CF Moto has been in the game (albeit behind the scenes) for a long time making engines for other major manufacturers (KTM primarily, but some others) so they have more credibility than most other Chinese brands.
@@langhamp8912 wtf are u on? that is literally every bike ever. look at n400, advertised price 5000$-something, sold for around 6.2 otd, that's pretty standard with all bikes and cars. Have you ever bought a vehicle? if not, look around before assuming stuff about a single company pricing lmao
@markusn.7240 I bought the 450ss for my son. He loves it.
I rode it a few times and gotta say its a very fun bike
I EU we have the advance option whit the big tft and bobble shock absorber , quick shifter, i love the bike
Do you know if the newer version coming to the USA? Like the European versions with smart key and bigger cluster ?
I got a 23' MT-09 as a first bike this year and one of the first things I did was adjust the suspension myself and while yes, the stock base suspension is pretty meh, especially the rear shock.... I am continually surprised by the amount of owners who suggest a steering dampener because they get speed wobbles above 90MPH. I have taken my bike all the way to the ECU top speed limiter and never had wobbles or even an uneasy feeling in the front end.
I am glad cruise control seems to becoming more and more of a base model feature now, definitely something I wish was a feature on my bike.
I'm really hoping to see CFMOTO make something like an 800SS in the future. Although their 3 cylinder 675SR is also something I'm looking forward to, hopefully it sees a release in NA.
Careful with the wobbles, i had an MT 09 Gen 3 and sometimes depends of the road it wobbles... Front brakes are shit and the frame is pure garbage . Get full coverage insurance , the frame cracks like shit .
I doubt they'll make a sportsbike version of the 800nk. Remember, part of the reason this bike exists is because CFMOTO is using KTM 790 parts they were already manufacturing for the relaunched version of the KTM 790, which was never designed to be a faired sportbike.
that’s one hell of a first bike
I am really excited for this bike. Might even trade my speed triple 1050 in on it next season
That would be very stupid. CF 800NK is a good bike but nowhere near to your TST.
I’ve tried J Juan brakes on a couple Zero bikes and I wasn’t exactly impressed. Maybe part of that comes down to regen, but reeling it back from triple digits gave me a weird pulsing sensation reminiscent of early ABS, not electric motor regeneration. Maybe that’s just expectations around a $22k bike compared to $8.5k for this. Idk about having one long term, but for a year or so, yeah, this is a win
you talked a lot about how it looks like there is a spot for a steering stabilizer on the triple tree. the KTM 790 Duke has a steering stabilizer and considering how many parts are shared between the bikes, i would imagine thats why. i wouldnt be surprised if an aftermarket or OEM stabilizer made for the 790/890 would fit it perfectly.
Would you recommend this to a vary tall and heavy rider, looking for something more fun than a Cruiser?
Spite I have a Question do you wear a nappy (look it up ) that seat looks so thin. I have had pushbikes with better seats then that. Other wise minted.
Big question is will Honda bring the Hornet 750 to the USA ?
CF moto are coming, i am having the MTX 800 as soon as that bas7ard hits the shops
The lack of traction control is the main purchase-stopper for many, with that said - it's 90% likely to be my next bike in a few months
Last month I picked up a 2022 CF Moto 650 Adventura for less than $4500 out the door. It is an excellent bike and very comfortable. I will keep CF moto as an option for when I replace the Adventua.
Do you have to buy the bike outright to get those good otd deals?
@onyx_might72 I don't think so. I'm sure if I financed it the OTD price would be the same.
Interesting Spite 🤔 you're talking about a potential future R model. It already exists, so maybe you just don't get it in the US.
In the Australian market, it's called Advance. It comes with a steering dampener, quickshifter, 8 inch TFT with Apple CarPlay.
God he loves CF moto ❤ (looking fwd to MT 450 adv)
Would you recommend this as a beginner bike
Needs a tune and that'll solve it. Sounds like it has the S1K 4-8k rpm dead spot. That gets fixed with a tune also
I'm so excited for this bike.
Can you tell a difference in the modes? I have a 650NK and the only thing that changes is the screen
There's a big difference between rain and sport. Street is less noticeable but somewhat more chill
@spitescorner once you get more miles on it I'd like to hear what you'd buy, I'm trying to decide between this, tuono 660, and mt09, comfort is probably the most important aspect as I ride over an hour each way to work.
I am super interested in this bike.
Talks about stealing and riding stabilization and then proceeded to take both hands off to explain lmao love it
Ahoy! I like what CF Moto is doing and I’m curious about some of their bikes though… at 13:15, the bike had quite a hissy fit with that bump flashing the hazards/etc, loose wiring connections?
It was the rain. I'm pretty sure it was catching some wheel spin leaving the low water crossing.
@@spitescorner ah ok, makes sense. My KTM doesn’t flash the hazards, only the traction control light if it’s on.
the corners were cut on the R&D, they took the already present KTM and changed it a bit, that is a big saving
What is your opinion of the stock tires? Would you "sport tour" on them?
Or do you have alternate tires in mind?
They're decent for road work, but on track they're a mess
@@spitescorner - The tires should be the first mod, then - if only to improve its canyon-carving credentials. And after that, a steering damper.
At 5’9” with longish legs. Would I be able to flat foot it?
Hey spite great vid, but I was wondering what’s a good motorcycle helmet for someone with a lot of hair?
I like my Shoei X14. It's more about keeping your hair from wadding up under the helmet.
Cool bike ❤
CFMoto is taking the motorcycle market by storm. I'm looking forward to when the CL-C gets here (their cruiser) and also what other bats**t crazy products they bring forward. Once again a great video Spite, be safe and have fun!
CL-C looks sweet.
Add a windscreen and some hard cases and this could be a big time do it all bike
The price on this bike is adequate actually. That's the average price of similar bikes on Chinese market, it's competitive.
A side question: would you still support your words about Svartpilen 401? Is it a decent choice for a scrambler? At this price point in China I could get a decent 600 v4 (although it's a cruiser). Kind of in the middle of making this decision
What are those gloves they look sick
You're right about the steering dampener. Here in Australia we have the NK800 Advanced, which comes with the dampener preinstalled, plus a massive 8 inch TFT touchscreen dash & a few other farkles.
On future pricing though, I think you're off the mark. The NK800 Sport is $10,990 ($7,158 USD) out the door here including taxes & registration, while the NK800 Advanced is $12,490 ($8,135 USD). Even factoring in higher shipping costs, there's still a big gap, so if CFMOTO can get some sales volume happening in the US you'll see prices dropping rather than increasing in the future.
Seeing them get cheaper would be interesting, but it makes sense if they have the Advanced. Have a cheap SKU and an expensive one.
Damper*
@@jcsuperstars1100 Sounds like you need a towel. 😅 Or some jam & cream if you're from Oz.
Damper in Australia is a type of bread originally made by early settlers, hence we call them steering dampeners.
and quickshifter
Wheelie control
Are any of the models will include the larger display? In Mexico the cheapest model have the smaller display, and the top of the range have the large ipadish dusplay
Maybe the GP will have a bigger one, but this one's big enough for me.
If they release an 800ss I’m going to the dealer asap.
Lots of tech for a low price, does any of it work?? J-1 dose it get the job done!!
I’ve been pissed @ Suzuki for a Very long time for not making a SV-750R!
Non US market has a premium version of this and I want that one
Is that 2024 version? The 800 NK here in the Phillippines has the BIG and UGLY TFT display that looks like a tablet
awesome video but you forgot to do a nice walk around, showing the parts and stuff
Awesome you got your hands on one! This is the bike I have been waiting on, and in jumping from 300nk to an upper middleweight, I am looking at this, the mt09 sp, and the gsx8r. I want to see if the Advanced version is coming here, hoping it will have traction control. If not, I am very likely going with the MT.
Here in Europe the Advanced version comes with the big Ipad-looking screen, TC, steering-stabilizer, keyless start, and up-and-down quickshifter. But one thing about the Advanced version I really don't like is the weird raised clip-on/handlebar instead of a traditional handlebar or regular clip-ons. Just feels like it limits ergonomics adjustability and mounting options for cameras, phone, etc.
Also, how long have you had your 300NK and how has it been serving you? I bought mine recently and put just under 1,000 miles on it, so wondering how it is after the first service and beyond.
@@t4r1k98im on a page on FB where the admin regularly posts about his milage on his 300nk. Its got 35k plus milage and says his has run real well. He drives it as his main vehichle. Only miner repairs of normal stuff.
Jjuan is owned by brembo now. So the quality and engineering is there.
goddamn they got the styling down
Just bought this last month, been waiting for the US version to show up and snatched it up as soon as it hit the showroom floor. Just wish the US had the advanced version but for the price (9.4 out the door) it's amazing.
i like it alot. I feel like im more interested in the 450NK. should be similar I hope.
450NK would sound a bit better with its 270° crank engine
I wanted it in the summer, this or the hornet, i didnt get neighter, last week i just ordered the 800 nk advanced at 6780 euros payed 30% and 6 other equal payment a month, no intrest but i know i already know i wont wait till the summer.
I ride an Indian KTM and it's great. China and India are bike heavy countries so both make a ton of good reliable machines. Having some extra cred by way of a more recognized brand liked KTM attached to this just seems like a win to consumers outside of China.
I test rode this bike recently it was a beast! My only issue is it cost the same as a ktm 790
The 790 is completely manufactured by CF Moto, albeit under KTM guidance.
@@kawihonsuzi1891 yea but i just think most people would choose the ktm. But i will say the tech on this bike was very impressive
one of the best looking naked bikes ❤
That one has the smaller tft screen that looks better than the big one. The 800nk here has a tablet.
Looks wise 10/10
saw this 6 seconds after posted 😃
Isn't the new 23 Ktm 790 the same price-ish?
Does it feel taller than it's listed seat height? Your comments (and another heard elsewhere) seem to suggest it feels taller than the listed 31.5 inches.
Yes. Sat on it and the Hornet both listed at the same height. I'm 5'10" and with the Hornet flat foot, good bend in the knees. With the 800NK flat foot much lesser bend. I think maybe the seat is wider at the front and forces your knees further apart. Still okay though.
Is there another version of this bike? It's missing the 8" touchscreen, the futuristic handlebar, bi directional quick shifter... Don't take this information to the bank but moto 2 Im 99% sure and for moto gp I think j juan has been in some bikes too.
I want one but I am a bigger dude and a new rider so a bit cautious. But it is a beautiful bike.
Even on a demo bike maybe keep the second key separate 😏
Love the CFMoto bikes!
SP version is around 500-700 more , comes with a bigger screen, tunable sus and steering damper
Thank you
J.Juan calipers and braking system is part of brembo group, therefore the quality is very good.
The laugh is addictive heehehhehehheea