Yes! Please do the 1000km challenge. Even though it’s only 50kW, the charging curve is very flat and the car can be very efficient. Many people would consider a second hand i3 vs the newer cars such as e-208 or ID3, so it is a relevant test.
@@StanislavBD I have the 64Ah BEV and have taken it on a few road trips in the UK, including the Scottish Highlands, so I think you would be completely fine. (Unfortunately haven't vlogged it, but do want to in the future.)
Was about to trade in my i3... but..no i don't. I love this car. And about the small wheels?? It's an ego problem. If you've nothing to compensate, you love those wheels ;)
Tip: IKEA Samla 22 liter with lid fits the frunk. Wokeby sells a 24 liter trunk extension. The average charging speed from 20 to 90% is OK due to a flat charging curve, but I find the 11kW AC most useful. This is an excellent town car with short turning distance and it can’t rust.
I have both the IKEA Samla frunk box, and the Wokeby trunk floor replacement, which is excellent. @BJ is a bit hard on the i3 not being “born electric”! BTW, the rear doors are actually “Coach doors”...
We own a TM3 and BMW i3 (2015 REX). We love the i3 for around town. Maybe a City slicker review. Ease of parking, turning radius etc.. TM3 is great for road trips, but I prefer the i3 around town.
I traded my i3 in for a Volt (Ampera) a little over a year ago. I miss the i3. The Volt has bigger tires, leather seats, and is a bit bigger with four doors which is why I traded, but I still miss my i3. If you just need a small car, it is fantastic.
@@briise The Ampera is a good car also. Something about the i3 makes me miss it though. I have Gen 1, though I would prefer Gen 2. I did have to replace the lithium ion battery, but other than that it has been fine. Funny enough, I am actually wanting something a bit bigger still, so I may trade it in lol.
I was about to buy a model 3,....2 times in a row, but didn’t do it,. Because, the moment I drove away from the Tesla store, I noticed, that this little big i3 is something I love.
@@pilotandthecity8527 I've driven a Model 3 and Y. Personally, I think I would prefer those over the i3, but the i3 does have its charm. And it's alot cheaper if you just need a small car for daily driving.
7:40 that's a tow eye/hook, which gets screwed into the bumper behind a little cover that's visible next to the license plate at the front (8:00). Should be fairly noticeable.
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Was waiting for your review - delivery of my i3 is scheduled for mid Dec and it would be nice to see what Bjorn can squeeze out of this little fellow... Looking forward :) thank you Uncle Bjorn PS: Wokeby is solving both topics - lack of additional space in trunk and waterproof for frunk :).
Ha Björn, Thanks for keeping your promise from earlier this year to test “my i3” You’ve chosen the right version now, and I hope you can look with an open mind to it. Please check the charging speed. And specially the late tapering, compared to a car like the Peugeot 203e and Corsa E. I think over all, even with a low max charging speed, the total charging time is not that bad. I would be curious to see the range test of this version and ..mmmh, the 1000 km test.... I make almost every month a 690 km tour ..and,... for this the car is not the best, but after using ABRP I could reduce the travel time by almost an hour, by picking a more optimal charging pattern. I think you shouldn’t make a 1000 km challenge, but use the car for a cool road test. Drive to Berlin, and I’ll meet you there with my twin i3. ;) No Berlin is to far...but a cool road trip would be a great idea. And about the luggage space, ...I’ve converted it with the wokeby luggage extension. By this you can use the past where the former engine was. Very useful and easy to install. The smaller tires look strange, but you would be surprised how good they work in the snow. The pressure per cm2 is rather big, and this gives more traction control They gave you the most beautiful colour combination. It’s exactly the car I’ve:) I still love the interior design and the engineering of the subframe. It’s actually a shame they never finished this car with a final battery pack of 60kWh and a higher charging speed. I would buy it again if this would be for sale soon. The thing with the design is funny. After a while you start to love it. I was a few times at the Tesla store in Berlin to get me a model 3, but the moment I walked back to my i3 and drove away with it, I noticed I didn’t want to sell it. Why? ...well,.. I love this little under dog... Have fun Björn...and I’m very much looking forward to your findings. Greetings from Berlin. Ps, What can be interesting is to check the actual battery capacity. I found out that my car had more then 42 kWh. It was actually 44,3 kWh. Compared to the range I’m able to get out of it in summer, it can be right. I managed 310 km. The charging speed starts at 44 kW and around 86,5 % it’s at the top, at 50,1 kW. , after this the tapering starts. Not bad at all. During road trips, these days and with this knowledge I charge always till this max charging level to reduce the charging time during stopovers. You mentioned actually a few things that are not correct here, like it was a not designed as a ev. Please take time to see the Munro video. Sandy Munro is one of the best engineers in the world . You’ll find there also some surprising Telsa information.. please see this: ua-cam.com/video/uDr4L6BzpP8/v-deo.html
Is a master piece of clever engineering, apart from the boot that they didn’t bother to put some hooks to hold some supermarket bags, and you can’t charge it to let say 80 percent if you want, that feature is missing for me but apart from only that two issues I love it every day I drive it and is so fun and fast in the city no one get out of the lights as quick as the i3 ( up to 30 mls of course )
Yeah it's real holy cow. People say that the boot is really small and others say that you can fit a washing machine or a tumble dryer in the back with the rear seats down I'd like to see you test this.
About the rear door. It’s better to think of it as a car for people who like 2-door cars but not as inconvenient when you need to get someone in the back. Edit: The 500e will be getting a similar style rear door as well.
Yes. We have no kids, and we don't have passengers. I love the coupe style front door with no window frame. Small but important detail that most people don't know about.
Actually the doors are perfect with small kids. We have 2! Getting the kids into the seats is easy. There is no door in the way. It's working perfect. I never understand the door issue. I think many complaints come from people that never used the car. And about the problem with the seat belt.. if you have a 2 door car, it's the same. Only with this car you can step in much easier... why are people always looking for problems instead of focus more on the benefits...
Funny! You just tested eNiro and now i3. I have i3s 44 kWh (since 1 year) and eNiro 64 kWh (since 2 days). I like both of them. I drove 20000 km in i3s already, including a family trip from Sweden to southern Poland. :-) Now i3s can rest a bit, time to enjoy eNiro. Happy testing for you! Do Geilo test! Also 1000km ...if you dare. Also I like the charging curve of i3, slowly going up till 86%, quite unusual. But eNiro is more efficient! Much bigger, no slim tires, no carbon fiber, just Korean technology! Thanks for all your work, I know so much from you.
@@mamadouaziza2536 In my opinion. Quality of both cars is good. Sometimes I can hear since sound from the left side of the dashboard in bmw. ENiro I have only for 3 days so too early to say.
Always interesting to re-visit older EVs and compare efficiency, range and charge speed with newer same class EVs. So, please do the test drives and conditions which show these most reliably. Also, consider prices. On discontinued REX models, ICE fuel vent can clog and is expensive to fix. Pity BMW lost its commitment to EV innovation. Good sheeet video. Thanks! (The weapon is also a towing loop!)
@Bjørn Nyland: Actually there is an after market solution for the i3 from a small company from Germany: www.wokeby.de. They offer a trunk extension to use the empty space of the REX and they offer a frunk sealing to make the frunk water proof.
We drive around in the 33kWh version. Love the CCS charging, 44kW up to 90%, AC 11kW and the heat pump (range in low temp still good). However a 1000km trip? Hmm. So I'd like to see the result of that. BTW the hood closes like you did. At least we do it like that. 65tkm now, no issues. Just remembered: about the tires, we have 175 50 in the rear, 155 front, so different sizes.
@@tonychestnut6791 yeah, same with tirewear, still the factory Ecopia from 2016 and still ok (edit: bought it second hand, might have had winter tires) . Correction on the tire sizes: Front 155/70 R19 Rear 175/60 R19
@@martinb932 how many kms or is it miles in your country. has the ecopia done?My tyres are doing well had mine for 3 years now and have travelled 19000 kms.No flat tyres ,touch wood.
Correction on the "corrections" here. The *winter* tire size *is* 155 at all corners. Only the summer tires are 175 at the back. The Smart ED had the same situation, and the same widths, but smaller wheels, 15" I think.
It's not that easy. I checked and the wheels I have are optional. I can't find matching winter tires, so I need to buy another set of wheels. Guessing the previous owner did this, and kept the wheels. So about 35tkm on the tires now I think.
The i3 wasn't born fossil. It was born a hybrid! Still way better than most other EVs at the time. Only Tesla did better with the packaging of the motor and inverter. Leaf, eGolf etc. went old school with the long bonnet, and a lot of stuff under it. Who wants fwd, btw? Carbon fiber is soo cool! Will last forever. Don't mistake recyclable with recycled. The material choices are super cool. Looking forward to more videos with this car! Keep it up, Bjørn! Btw. how many kWh batteries did you use to have in your fossil cars? ;) "Natural, renewable, and sustainable: the interior of the BMW i3 features door trim panels and a dashboard made from renewable natural fibres, naturally tanned leather, and open-pore eucalyptus wood sourced from 100 % FSC®-certified forestry. Overall, 25 % renewable raw materials and recycled plastics were used in the interior of the BMW i3. The textile upholsteries are made of up to 100 % recycled polyster, produced using 34 % PET. A further 25 % recycled plastics are used in the exterior."
I agree with other people who suggested city traffic tests for city cars. I think that now that you are driving a wide range of cars, also many city cars, it would be great if you could develop a test where their characteristics could "shine". They of course don't do as well in the 1000k challenges or Geilo tests as Teslas or eTrons, as they are optimised for different stuff. The usual tests are of course still interesting also for smaller cars, please do all the usual tests with i3, I'm just thinking perhaps you could develop additional tests especially for the smaller cars you drive. The Uncle Björn's Urban Mobility Test :) could include commute test, or consumption during commute and shopping runs (if you have this car, and use it daily to get to work and back and going shopping, can you make it through the working week without charging it), how easy it is to handle in small spaces (cameras, parking assists, turning circles), maneuverability in slow-moving city traffic (I'd think cars with "one-pedal systems" would be easier to drive in queues, autopilot functionality in city (I really liked your analyses about the Kia Niro rear-ending that was supposedly due to a failure in auto-braking), if you have two bags of groceries in the trunk, can you attach them so that they are still standing when you come home... I'd be happy just to see your qualitative assessment of these, some could turn into measured data in your famous Google Sheeeets (e.g. turning circle), some perhaps not, but at least I wouldn't mind. Your insights would be valuable for someone considering buying these cars. Of course, for example consumption in city depends a lot on traffic conditions, and so it's difficult to have constant conditions across tests, and thus it is not as fair comparison as in your other consumption tests, but I think it would be interesting and add a new, meaningful data point, as for example the Kia Niro seems to be very efficient in slow speeds.
I have the 2020 model too so really interested in what’s coming up. I agree about the tyres, I think they went over the top with how thin they are, so it bunny hops when high speed cornering! Would be great to see long range test and the challenge of sleeping in it and keeping the heat on etc.
Just to add another request , it seems the i3 doesn't show detailed energy consumption like a lot of other ev's so would be great if you help with showing if it's possible.
Auxiliary climate is to turn on the heating/AC when the car is not in "ready" (driving) state. It turns off automatically after 30 minutes. If the car is on, you can select temperature, if the car is off you only see a fan icon blinking and it heats/cools to a default temperature set by bmw
@@bjornnyland ah, gotcha. The name also confused me. I have a bmw plug in and at first I didn't understand why the ac wouldn't turn on when I wasn't driving, until I discovered that you need to enable that option (and you need to set a departure time also) not intuitive at all
You can configure the star key on your fob to start auxillary heater. That works like a charm for me. In my earlier i3 tests, I also didn't understand why heater refused to fire up while charging. Most other EVs I test, the heater comes on as soon as you "start" the car. Even if you're charging.
The REx is essential where we live in the US. We have virtually zero charging stations around here. I wouldn't trade my i3 REx for anything. Not even after I get my 350+ mi Cybertruck. A RWD hatchback is the ultimate practical but also fun car.
It would be great to see a driving / handling test on your regular route. If you do it when it's dark we get the light test through curves and everything 😊 Thanks.
If you like to see the real use of the battery you can download the electrified app with a ELM compatible dongle, it will give you great inside in temp of batteries, charge and discharge, I can recommand it. It also shows how fast it's charging in DC mode. I'll check back on you findings, I drive a 2014 i3 Rex myself. Happy driving
@@mamadouaziza2536 hi I do drive long distances, normally around 135 km per day commute (summer able to do at 90 kph, winter range is around 100km). I also go on vacations and then will run around 500..700 km per day. Will run the Rex as it's cheaper then charging at currently increased DC charging prices. My car is 6 years old, 144.000 km, I own it 2 years and a bit and drove around 25.000 km per year. It's my only car.
@@mamadouaziza2536 it depends all on wind, temperature and speed. The car draws 30Ah with 90 kmph, 40Ah with 100 kmph. The car has done 144 thousand km
Yeah al your usual range tests and how it charges - also what price range is it in Norway, how does it compare to other EVs in that price bracket? Just a few ideas and questions.
@@REV-EV Thanks , I really hate cars that are not stable on the motorway , especially living in a county which is frozen for 5 months and nothing feels stable on ice as it is.
@@David-bl1bt its true to an extent but it was exasperated by the tall, thin wheels, a taller ride hide and plastic bodywork when compared to the Ford Fiesta XR2’s that I used to own many years ago (which were also driven on the motorway).
Electric motor on the left, gasoline engine on the right, made by Kymco. So there is no actual BMW in this car. But i love my little i3. quick and light. Perfect little city car. Acceleration is good for a car of this size. Better than leaf.
Once you setup your mind you can go wherever you want! When I bought my I3 with 33 kWh battery I drove about 500 km to get back home. And this is in Bulgaria!
I'd like to see regen tested. Can it be easily tested? Maybe like this: Roll down a steep hill for a few km while regenerating. Then turn around, drive back up the same route to see how far you get back up by just using the added SoC from the downhill part. If you get 1/5 of the way up, then regen is 20%, which is about what I'm guessing for many cars. Must perhaps drive no faster than 40 km/h and subtract the expected SoC loss from both legs (down and up) by the km for how much SoC would be lost if those parts where driven on a normal flat road (i.e. ~150Wh/km). To ignore normal consumption for both legs. Maybe at night to avoid traffic and friction braking. Maybe measure difference in meters above see level instead of meters driven (not needed if the slope doesn't vary, if it's a steady downhill angle). Maybe the test would have to be repeated to find some average. And maybe some cars overheat by too much regen?
Bjorn, you should try a track test, maybe not on the Nurburgring, but on a small, kart-like track! EVs are not just a boring stuff, despite the fact that most of them are boringly designed... I'm a proud owner of a BMW i3s, and it's a pure fun to drive, light, tremendously fast and reactive, incredibly silent and I still haven't found another EV so far that could replace it. Moreover, you should say that it's the most reliable BMW on the market and one of the most reliable cars overall. Suicide doors are great if you have to load your back seats (how many drivers are always travelling with 4/5 passengers?). The i3 was not born as fossil car, but had (still has, in the US) a REx option, which extends the range to unlimited mileage. Have you ever tried a 1000km test with the REx? It means virtually no stops. I did it (800km) from South to North Italy ;) The point is different. Who buys an i3 REx, will probably not need it at all, except for rare long trips, not typical for a car thought mainly for city environment. I use it so rarely that sometimes (once a month or so) my REx has to start and run for 5 minutes just for maintenance routine to keep it lubrified, not exactly a gas guzzler... ;) A REx on a car also means cheaper, smaller and lighter batteries, less lithium, less polluting cobalt and battery cells to recycle, and much lower costs to replace or upgrade your battery if needed. What do you think about? ^_^
First of all what is iMove? I have an i3s 2018 33.6 model and enjoy it very much. At the time in Canada in late spring 2018; the model 3 deliveries were still very unclear and I was running out of time for the provincial gov't incentive rebate. I wanted something better than a leaf but not as expensive as a Model S thus the BMW i3s was our choice. Fun peppy little city car with a unique design. Sure it has it's flaws but it works for me. Note that in extreme cold winter conditions the only heat setting that sufficiently works for me is the automatic temperature setting which keeps the window clear and your feet warm in -17c weather (extreme cold day in the Toronto area last january). When I tried without the automatic setting it was a disaster..cold feet then windows fogging up and so on. My i3s is a REX so that backup is available for high consumption. Maybe you can talk about CODING the i3 and Traffic Jam assist; the optional very basic semi autonomous driving option. The BMW toggle wheel command centre for the entertainment and screen menu is pretty nice too imo. Those look like the skinny Winter tires btw. My i3s comes with slightly wider and cooler all season 'summer' tires with nice rims too but those winters and the skinny design mean great traction control in the ice and snow.
In Australia there are Bridgestone EP500 or Nankang ECONEX NA1 in the 19’s (155/70R19, 175/60R19) As for life - 30Kkm rears and 45Kkm on front (still going)
Yeah, it's one of the only things I don't like, either. One choice each for summer, winter, and tire life is almost unbelievably bad, and I don't drive like a maniac. I drive and accelerate slowly most of the time.
This is not top spec as suggested, no Harmon stereo, sunroof, ect... It's a shame it's getting colder as it's rapid charge rate will be lower than the 48 I get in summer, but still will be an interesting viewing!😀 Would love to see some brake testing, that would be a new one Bjørn! You never do stopping distances, and that's important with all these heavy and light! Ev's ! P.s. I got 273km on my 94amp before, with 23km remaining, (in eco+ mode) before! And average 220 in comfort mode, so intrigued what the 120amp gets! Also I did some 0-100 tests with a GPS tester before, and it took 8 hard tests to get the battery hot enough to then get it down to 5.8 seconds! So get the battery hot hot hot before you do your 0-100 runs 😃 ( done in summer temps)
So, here ist my hate comment: Only the right part under the trunk is reserved for the Range Extender, the left part is occupied by the electric motor. So it's unfair to compare it with a Leaf wich does have an engine in the front. So I would say, that it is very unfair to say, that it has not been created - in 2013! - as an electric vehicle. They also would have never used a carbon fibre frame in this case. And the interior layout in the front compartment would also never have been possible the way it has been done. And by the way in German is says "Standklimatisierung". So I would say, that it is just a translation error. If you have never seen the Munro review of the car you should do so. It was well ahead of it's time.
I‘d like you to do:
- Geilo test
- 1000 km test
- Arctic circle road trip
Danke schön! Love your videos!
Indicator function test.
@@jakobnev5973 BMWs got indicators???
@@steilkurbler4973 Never driven one, but i've seen orange areas where indicators typically are located on cars.
Yes! Please do the 1000km challenge. Even though it’s only 50kW, the charging curve is very flat and the car can be very efficient. Many people would consider a second hand i3 vs the newer cars such as e-208 or ID3, so it is a relevant test.
*50 kW
@@bjornnyland Yep. Was typing on a phone. Fixed now. 😅
Yes, please. I’m one of the ones with a second hand i3 and need you to store some confidence on taking it for a trip 😂
@@StanislavBD I have the 64Ah BEV and have taken it on a few road trips in the UK, including the Scottish Highlands, so I think you would be completely fine. (Unfortunately haven't vlogged it, but do want to in the future.)
This is by far the best car I have ever owned
Me too, and I've owned a lot of luxury cars. The i3 is superb.
Had the i3 for over a year, absolutely loved it. Getting the ID.3 next week.
Was about to trade in my i3... but..no i don't. I love this car.
And about the small wheels?? It's an ego problem. If you've nothing to compensate, you love those wheels ;)
@@pilotandthecity8527 agreed. I ordered my 2019 i3 with 20’ rims so in that sense, I don’t have that ego problem. But you are 100% right.
I have had a 33kWh i3 (BEV version) for the last 3 years. Love it - it's a great car
In Germany we call those tires “asphalt cutting discs” or “Asphalt-Trennscheiben” on german 😅
Cheese cutters
lol
Tip: IKEA Samla 22 liter with lid fits the frunk. Wokeby sells a 24 liter trunk extension. The average charging speed from 20 to 90% is OK due to a flat charging curve, but I find the 11kW AC most useful. This is an excellent town car with short turning distance and it can’t rust.
I have both the IKEA Samla frunk box, and the Wokeby trunk floor replacement, which is excellent. @BJ is a bit hard on the i3 not being “born electric”! BTW, the rear doors are actually “Coach doors”...
My favorite car, had 2 i3's before the tesla model 3.. i3 still my fav. ❤
That's interesting! I have an i3 and it's the best car I've ever owned. Curious what you prefer over the TM3.
We own a TM3 and BMW i3 (2015 REX). We love the i3 for around town. Maybe a City slicker review. Ease of parking, turning radius etc.. TM3 is great for road trips, but I prefer the i3 around town.
I traded my i3 in for a Volt (Ampera) a little over a year ago. I miss the i3. The Volt has bigger tires, leather seats, and is a bit bigger with four doors which is why I traded, but I still miss my i3. If you just need a small car, it is fantastic.
i did the same, ampera in 2017 love the ampera works like ninja
Before I had my i3, I drove a Smart fortwo for 16 years. The i3 is huge in comparison! 😁
@@briise The Ampera is a good car also. Something about the i3 makes me miss it though. I have Gen 1, though I would prefer Gen 2. I did have to replace the lithium ion battery, but other than that it has been fine.
Funny enough, I am actually wanting something a bit bigger still, so I may trade it in lol.
I was about to buy a model 3,....2 times in a row, but didn’t do it,. Because, the moment I drove away from the Tesla store, I noticed, that this little big i3 is something I love.
@@pilotandthecity8527 I've driven a Model 3 and Y. Personally, I think I would prefer those over the i3, but the i3 does have its charm. And it's alot cheaper if you just need a small car for daily driving.
7:40 that's a tow eye/hook, which gets screwed into the bumper behind a little cover that's visible next to the license plate at the front (8:00). Should be fairly noticeable.
You must be fun at parties :P
Bjorn must be kidding. All Tesla Model S/X/3 has this kind of tow hook and placed inside the frunk.
Yeah I realized this now. Should've known. xD But at least it's helpful for people who don't know.
@@bjornnyland 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Gelio Test yes. And trip to Stavanger or Bergen.
I love this. Got my 07 i3 this summer because I want to go green but not spend a lot of money and I love it.
I like the i3 - remember I saw it first time in "carbon" that was....in Munich many summers ago.
Great city car.
Was waiting for your review - delivery of my i3 is scheduled for mid Dec and it would be nice to see what Bjorn can squeeze out of this little fellow... Looking forward :) thank you Uncle Bjorn PS: Wokeby is solving both topics - lack of additional space in trunk and waterproof for frunk :).
Ha Björn, Thanks for keeping your promise from earlier this year to test “my i3”
You’ve chosen the right version now, and I hope you can look with an open mind to it.
Please check the charging speed. And specially the late tapering, compared to a car like the Peugeot 203e and Corsa E.
I think over all, even with a low max charging speed, the total charging time is not that bad.
I would be curious to see the range test of this version and ..mmmh, the 1000 km test.... I make almost every month a 690 km tour ..and,... for this the car is not the best, but after using ABRP I could reduce the travel time by almost an hour, by picking a more optimal charging pattern.
I think you shouldn’t make a 1000 km challenge, but use the car for a cool road test. Drive to Berlin, and I’ll meet you there with my twin i3. ;)
No Berlin is to far...but a cool road trip would be a great idea.
And about the luggage space, ...I’ve converted it with the wokeby luggage extension. By this you can use the past where the former engine was. Very useful and easy to install.
The smaller tires look strange, but you would be surprised how good they work in the snow.
The pressure per cm2 is rather big, and this gives more traction control
They gave you the most beautiful colour combination. It’s exactly the car I’ve:)
I still love the interior design and the engineering of the subframe.
It’s actually a shame they never finished this car with a final battery pack of 60kWh and a higher charging speed. I would buy it again if this would be for sale soon.
The thing with the design is funny. After a while you start to love it. I was a few times at the Tesla store in Berlin to get me a model 3, but the moment I walked back to my i3 and drove away with it, I noticed I didn’t want to sell it. Why? ...well,.. I love this little under dog...
Have fun Björn...and I’m very much looking forward to your findings.
Greetings from Berlin.
Ps,
What can be interesting is to check the actual battery capacity.
I found out that my car had more then 42 kWh. It was actually 44,3 kWh. Compared to the range I’m able to get out of it in summer, it can be right. I managed 310 km.
The charging speed starts at 44 kW and around 86,5 % it’s at the top, at 50,1 kW. , after this the tapering starts. Not bad at all. During road trips, these days and with this knowledge I charge always till this max charging level to reduce the charging time during stopovers.
You mentioned actually a few things that are not correct here, like it was a not designed as a ev.
Please take time to see the Munro video. Sandy Munro is one of the best engineers in the world .
You’ll find there also some surprising Telsa information.. please see this:
ua-cam.com/video/uDr4L6BzpP8/v-deo.html
Is a master piece of clever engineering, apart from the boot that they didn’t bother to put some hooks to hold some supermarket bags, and you can’t charge it to let say 80 percent if you want, that feature is missing for me but apart from only that two issues I love it every day I drive it and is so fun and fast in the city no one get out of the lights as quick as the i3 ( up to 30 mls of course )
I totally agree. I wish the car would allow limiting the SOC. They should add it as a software update, but they won't, I'm sure.
Yeah it's real holy cow.
People say that the boot is really small and others say that you can fit a washing machine or a tumble dryer in the back with the rear seats down I'd like to see you test this.
About the rear door. It’s better to think of it as a car for people who like 2-door cars but not as inconvenient when you need to get someone in the back.
Edit: The 500e will be getting a similar style rear door as well.
Yes. We have no kids, and we don't have passengers. I love the coupe style front door with no window frame. Small but important detail that most people don't know about.
Actually the doors are perfect with small kids. We have 2! Getting the kids into the seats is easy. There is no door in the way. It's working perfect. I never understand the door issue. I think many complaints come from people that never used the car. And about the problem with the seat belt.. if you have a 2 door car, it's the same. Only with this car you can step in much easier... why are people always looking for problems instead of focus more on the benefits...
Funny! You just tested eNiro and now i3.
I have i3s 44 kWh (since 1 year) and eNiro 64 kWh (since 2 days). I like both of them. I drove 20000 km in i3s already, including a family trip from Sweden to southern Poland. :-) Now i3s can rest a bit, time to enjoy eNiro. Happy testing for you! Do Geilo test! Also 1000km ...if you dare.
Also I like the charging curve of i3, slowly going up till 86%, quite unusual. But eNiro is more efficient! Much bigger, no slim tires, no carbon fiber, just Korean technology!
Thanks for all your work, I know so much from you.
@@mamadouaziza2536 In my opinion. Quality of both cars is good. Sometimes I can hear since sound from the left side of the dashboard in bmw. ENiro I have only for 3 days so too early to say.
I am hoping for a review on the iX3, so far been really good reviews on the range and efficiency on that model and it has been just released!
Road trip would be cool, to see how it is to sleep in the car :) 1000km also of course, we have been waiting for this to come... thanks a lot!
Always interesting to re-visit older EVs and compare efficiency, range and charge speed with newer same class EVs. So, please do the test drives and conditions which show these most reliably. Also, consider prices. On discontinued REX models, ICE fuel vent can clog and is expensive to fix. Pity BMW lost its commitment to EV innovation. Good sheeet video. Thanks! (The weapon is also a towing loop!)
Roadtrip please. Drive the same route as the TV2 journalist you talked about in your video "Car journalists making EVs look bad"
1000km, geilo & road trip. Summer tyres at rear are wider. 👍
A B C = Always Be Catering (to the viewers)! Geilo test is my favorite these days, 1000km challenge is also fun to watch
i3 is awesome! Multiple test please :-)
@Bjørn Nyland: Actually there is an after market solution for the i3 from a small company from Germany: www.wokeby.de.
They offer a trunk extension to use the empty space of the REX and they offer a frunk sealing to make the frunk water proof.
I have the Wokeby rear trunk replacement, which is excellent. Very well made, strong, and easy to fit. Strongly recommended for BEV i3 models.
@@petergorton9848 Thank you for sharing your feedback :-)
4K video .. looks great
We drive around in the 33kWh version. Love the CCS charging, 44kW up to 90%, AC 11kW and the heat pump (range in low temp still good). However a 1000km trip? Hmm. So I'd like to see the result of that. BTW the hood closes like you did. At least we do it like that. 65tkm now, no issues. Just remembered: about the tires, we have 175 50 in the rear, 155 front, so different sizes.
Odd how you see i3 reviewers assume all the wheel widths are the same .
@@tonychestnut6791 yeah, same with tirewear, still the factory Ecopia from 2016 and still ok (edit: bought it second hand, might have had winter tires) .
Correction on the tire sizes:
Front 155/70 R19
Rear 175/60 R19
@@martinb932 how many kms or is it miles in your country. has the ecopia done?My tyres are doing well had mine for 3 years now and have travelled 19000 kms.No flat tyres ,touch wood.
Correction on the "corrections" here. The *winter* tire size *is* 155 at all corners. Only the summer tires are 175 at the back. The Smart ED had the same situation, and the same widths, but smaller wheels, 15" I think.
It's not that easy. I checked and the wheels I have are optional. I can't find matching winter tires, so I need to buy another set of wheels. Guessing the previous owner did this, and kept the wheels. So about 35tkm on the tires now I think.
Looking forward to the 1000km challenge. Noise test would also be fun considering the top brand badge.
I realy like the look of the i3! It’s best in white.
The i3 wasn't born fossil. It was born a hybrid! Still way better than most other EVs at the time. Only Tesla did better with the packaging of the motor and inverter. Leaf, eGolf etc. went old school with the long bonnet, and a lot of stuff under it. Who wants fwd, btw?
Carbon fiber is soo cool! Will last forever. Don't mistake recyclable with recycled. The material choices are super cool. Looking forward to more videos with this car! Keep it up, Bjørn! Btw. how many kWh batteries did you use to have in your fossil cars? ;)
"Natural, renewable, and sustainable: the interior of the BMW i3 features door trim panels and a dashboard made from renewable natural fibres, naturally tanned leather, and open-pore eucalyptus wood sourced from 100 % FSC®-certified forestry. Overall, 25 % renewable raw materials and recycled plastics were used in the interior of the BMW i3. The textile upholsteries are made of up to 100 % recycled polyster, produced using 34 % PET. A further 25 % recycled plastics are used in the exterior."
Hybrid = fossil
You should get an OBD2 dongle and download the electrified app.
Then you can check battery stats of the i3.
1000km test would be great.
Greetings for you and Paweł from Poland, homeland of non-existing REX covers! buing classic Ioniq btw 🤞🏻
I agree with other people who suggested city traffic tests for city cars. I think that now that you are driving a wide range of cars, also many city cars, it would be great if you could develop a test where their characteristics could "shine". They of course don't do as well in the 1000k challenges or Geilo tests as Teslas or eTrons, as they are optimised for different stuff. The usual tests are of course still interesting also for smaller cars, please do all the usual tests with i3, I'm just thinking perhaps you could develop additional tests especially for the smaller cars you drive. The Uncle Björn's Urban Mobility Test :) could include commute test, or consumption during commute and shopping runs (if you have this car, and use it daily to get to work and back and going shopping, can you make it through the working week without charging it), how easy it is to handle in small spaces (cameras, parking assists, turning circles), maneuverability in slow-moving city traffic (I'd think cars with "one-pedal systems" would be easier to drive in queues, autopilot functionality in city (I really liked your analyses about the Kia Niro rear-ending that was supposedly due to a failure in auto-braking), if you have two bags of groceries in the trunk, can you attach them so that they are still standing when you come home... I'd be happy just to see your qualitative assessment of these, some could turn into measured data in your famous Google Sheeeets (e.g. turning circle), some perhaps not, but at least I wouldn't mind. Your insights would be valuable for someone considering buying these cars. Of course, for example consumption in city depends a lot on traffic conditions, and so it's difficult to have constant conditions across tests, and thus it is not as fair comparison as in your other consumption tests, but I think it would be interesting and add a new, meaningful data point, as for example the Kia Niro seems to be very efficient in slow speeds.
Noise Test, please.
I have the 2020 model too so really interested in what’s coming up.
I agree about the tyres, I think they went over the top with how thin they are, so it bunny hops when high speed cornering!
Would be great to see long range test and the challenge of sleeping in it and keeping the heat on etc.
Just to add another request , it seems the i3 doesn't show detailed energy consumption like a lot of other ev's so would be great if you help with showing if it's possible.
I have a 2015 i3 rex. Love it
Check out CCS charging power through out a full charge cycle and also find out the real usable capacity of 44kWh
37,5 kwh in my i3s :)
The bmw brochure states 42.2 kWh gross, with 37.9 kWh net for both the i3 and i3s.
Road trip would be great (I won’t ask for a sleep in the car test but it would be really curious!).
Geilo test is nice
Consumption test against Renault Zoe Z.E 50 Intens from Oslo to Geilo can be fun.
A range test would be great.
I would really like to see a winter camping test. Also take it to Bodo to see Mom.
Auxiliary climate is to turn on the heating/AC when the car is not in "ready" (driving) state. It turns off automatically after 30 minutes. If the car is on, you can select temperature, if the car is off you only see a fan icon blinking and it heats/cools to a default temperature set by bmw
I know what it is. It's just the name I was talking about.
@@bjornnyland ah, gotcha. The name also confused me. I have a bmw plug in and at first I didn't understand why the ac wouldn't turn on when I wasn't driving, until I discovered that you need to enable that option (and you need to set a departure time also) not intuitive at all
You can configure the star key on your fob to start auxillary heater. That works like a charm for me. In my earlier i3 tests, I also didn't understand why heater refused to fire up while charging. Most other EVs I test, the heater comes on as soon as you "start" the car. Even if you're charging.
Charging test could be also interesting to watch
Do all the tests you mentioned Bjørn! Go for it :D
Geilo test would be great, thanks.
4K video looks nice :)
The REx is essential where we live in the US. We have virtually zero charging stations around here. I wouldn't trade my i3 REx for anything. Not even after I get my 350+ mi Cybertruck. A RWD hatchback is the ultimate practical but also fun car.
It would be great to see a driving / handling test on your regular route. If you do it when it's dark we get the light test through curves and everything 😊 Thanks.
I am a sucker for tyre tech, so the i3 scratches my itch very well.
1000 km test . Yess !!
Looks like a city car. So a city traffic test would wonderfull.
7:09 great for a few 5L jerry cans for extended ReX range
I would like you to make a video about all the charging passes and which are best for which kind of EV’s. Thank you!
I vote for a trip to Bergen too!
Full range test and 1000km please
One is the most popular Banana Box test!!!
That is so you can be towed when the i3 runs out of battery :) The tool in the boot - but could be a weapon lol!
ABL Always be Listening
If you like to see the real use of the battery you can download the electrified app with a ELM compatible dongle, it will give you great inside in temp of batteries, charge and discharge, I can recommand it. It also shows how fast it's charging in DC mode. I'll check back on you findings, I drive a 2014 i3 Rex myself. Happy driving
@@mamadouaziza2536 hi I do drive long distances, normally around 135 km per day commute (summer able to do at 90 kph, winter range is around 100km). I also go on vacations and then will run around 500..700 km per day. Will run the Rex as it's cheaper then charging at currently increased DC charging prices. My car is 6 years old, 144.000 km, I own it 2 years and a bit and drove around 25.000 km per year. It's my only car.
@@mamadouaziza2536 still it shows 140 km when full
@@mamadouaziza2536 it depends all on wind, temperature and speed. The car draws 30Ah with 90 kmph, 40Ah with 100 kmph. The car has done 144 thousand km
I'd like to see the Geilo test and the 1000 km challenge...
1000 km challenge👍🥳
Please compare range to ID3 48 kWh !!!
Camp in it in extreme weather :P or be an i3 taxi driver with that suicide door.
A 1000 km test would be much appreciated
Charge efficiency testing comparison would be interesting comparing the different options. Home,Type 2 and DC
Yeah al your usual range tests and how it charges - also what price range is it in Norway, how does it compare to other EVs in that price bracket? Just a few ideas and questions.
The overtaken by a lorry on the highway test. My i3 was nerve wracking on the U.K. motorway when being overtaken by an articulated lorry.
The wind moves it about ? not stable ?
@@supernova1976 I found cross winds and passing lorries blew my i3 about in its lane more than any other car I’ve owned.
@@REV-EV Thanks , I really hate cars that are not stable on the motorway , especially living in a county which is frozen for 5 months and nothing feels stable on ice as it is.
@@David-bl1bt its true to an extent but it was exasperated by the tall, thin wheels, a taller ride hide and plastic bodywork when compared to the Ford Fiesta XR2’s that I used to own many years ago (which were also driven on the motorway).
Electric motor on the left, gasoline engine on the right, made by Kymco. So there is no actual BMW in this car.
But i love my little i3. quick and light. Perfect little city car.
Acceleration is good for a car of this size. Better than leaf.
We need a race. How about vs I-pace. Thirstier, charges slightly faster. Might be fun!
1000 km range test in Norway please.
your right about the tires!
The i3 doesn't use bicycle wheels! It uses angle grinder discs.
The "weapon " is a front tow bar.
Will you also do the acceleration test please?
Acceleration test and 1000km test please!
1000km test
Once you setup your mind you can go wherever you want! When I bought my I3 with 33 kWh battery I drove about 500 km to get back home. And this is in Bulgaria!
Hi Bjorn, seeing the battery capacity and outer/inner dimensions, a race against a PSA car like Peugeot e2008 or DS3 Crossback would be nice.
I'd like to see regen tested. Can it be easily tested? Maybe like this: Roll down a steep hill for a few km while regenerating. Then turn around, drive back up the same route to see how far you get back up by just using the added SoC from the downhill part. If you get 1/5 of the way up, then regen is 20%, which is about what I'm guessing for many cars. Must perhaps drive no faster than 40 km/h and subtract the expected SoC loss from both legs (down and up) by the km for how much SoC would be lost if those parts where driven on a normal flat road (i.e. ~150Wh/km). To ignore normal consumption for both legs. Maybe at night to avoid traffic and friction braking. Maybe measure difference in meters above see level instead of meters driven (not needed if the slope doesn't vary, if it's a steady downhill angle). Maybe the test would have to be repeated to find some average. And maybe some cars overheat by too much regen?
Bjorn, you should try a track test, maybe not on the Nurburgring, but on a small, kart-like track!
EVs are not just a boring stuff, despite the fact that most of them are boringly designed...
I'm a proud owner of a BMW i3s, and it's a pure fun to drive, light, tremendously fast and reactive, incredibly silent and I still haven't found another EV so far that could replace it.
Moreover, you should say that it's the most reliable BMW on the market and one of the most reliable cars overall.
Suicide doors are great if you have to load your back seats (how many drivers are always travelling with 4/5 passengers?).
The i3 was not born as fossil car, but had (still has, in the US) a REx option, which extends the range to unlimited mileage.
Have you ever tried a 1000km test with the REx? It means virtually no stops. I did it (800km) from South to North Italy ;)
The point is different. Who buys an i3 REx, will probably not need it at all, except for rare long trips, not typical for a car thought mainly for city environment.
I use it so rarely that sometimes (once a month or so) my REx has to start and run for 5 minutes just for maintenance routine to keep it lubrified, not exactly a gas guzzler... ;)
A REx on a car also means cheaper, smaller and lighter batteries, less lithium, less polluting cobalt and battery cells to recycle, and much lower costs to replace or upgrade your battery if needed.
What do you think about? ^_^
yes
100 to 0 km/h Break Test. With such tiny tires I’m curious to know how performance is under emergency breaking. (My wife’s car is the 22kw REX i3)
Light test also please
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By the way, would be great if you could put your hands on your hands on an iX3
Kan you make a video comparing the best electric car in 300k , 400k ,500nok ?
And 200km ,300km ,500km range?
---> Arctic circle road trip for the win :)
(With sleeping time to see if is possible to sleep in a small commun ich car)
7:36 isn't it a dipstick for measuring the oil level? The Rex version must have some hole for it under that rug in the trunk
yes it does.
First of all what is iMove? I have an i3s 2018 33.6 model and enjoy it very much. At the time in Canada in late spring 2018; the model 3 deliveries were still very unclear and I was running out of time for the provincial gov't incentive rebate. I wanted something better than a leaf but not as expensive as a Model S thus the BMW i3s was our choice. Fun peppy little city car with a unique design. Sure it has it's flaws but it works for me. Note that in extreme cold winter conditions the only heat setting that sufficiently works for me is the automatic temperature setting which keeps the window clear and your feet warm in -17c weather (extreme cold day in the Toronto area last january). When I tried without the automatic setting it was a disaster..cold feet then windows fogging up and so on. My i3s is a REX so that backup is available for high consumption. Maybe you can talk about CODING the i3 and Traffic Jam assist; the optional very basic semi autonomous driving option. The BMW toggle wheel command centre for the entertainment and screen menu is pretty nice too imo. Those look like the skinny Winter tires btw. My i3s comes with slightly wider and cooler all season 'summer' tires with nice rims too but those winters and the skinny design mean great traction control in the ice and snow.
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Do you have a video on tips for New EV owners? Do's and dont's.
If not that is my suggestion:)
Road trip to Mosjoen!!
Looks exactly like my 2019 i3, including the color and schmutz.
i3 to North Cape and back!
The i3 was on my short list but I don't like that there is only one expensive tire available and they don't last long.
In Australia there are Bridgestone EP500 or Nankang ECONEX NA1 in the 19’s (155/70R19, 175/60R19)
As for life - 30Kkm rears and 45Kkm on front (still going)
Yeah, it's one of the only things I don't like, either. One choice each for summer, winter, and tire life is almost unbelievably bad, and I don't drive like a maniac. I drive and accelerate slowly most of the time.
I wish noise test.
Nice the ‘old’ ev’s still mather 💪🏻 Geilo test for sure pls.
This is not top spec as suggested, no Harmon stereo, sunroof, ect...
It's a shame it's getting colder as it's rapid charge rate will be lower than the 48 I get in summer, but still will be an interesting viewing!😀
Would love to see some brake testing, that would be a new one Bjørn! You never do stopping distances, and that's important with all these heavy and light! Ev's !
P.s. I got 273km on my 94amp before, with 23km remaining, (in eco+ mode) before!
And average 220 in comfort mode, so intrigued what the 120amp gets!
Also I did some 0-100 tests with a GPS tester before, and it took 8 hard tests to get the battery hot enough to then get it down to 5.8 seconds!
So get the battery hot hot hot before you do your 0-100 runs 😃 ( done in summer temps)
I didn't suggest it was top notch. I said it was the "Fully Charged" package.
@@bjornnyland my apologies, you did say "fully charged" and I stand incorrect, I thought Harmon, sunroof, was now standard in that spec, it isn't.
Road trip 👍🏻
So, here ist my hate comment: Only the right part under the trunk is reserved for the Range Extender, the left part is occupied by the electric motor. So it's unfair to compare it with a Leaf wich does have an engine in the front. So I would say, that it is very unfair to say, that it has not been created - in 2013! - as an electric vehicle. They also would have never used a carbon fibre frame in this case. And the interior layout in the front compartment would also never have been possible the way it has been done. And by the way in German is says "Standklimatisierung". So I would say, that it is just a translation error. If you have never seen the Munro review of the car you should do so. It was well ahead of it's time.
There's no engine in an EV.
engine = Antrieb, Motor, Funktionseinheit. I would say so. Anyways no need for arguing semantics, just have mercy with the poor little i3.