@@Rustinox I worked as a problem solver for a foundry and saved the company millions in labor costs from the changes that I had implemented and all I got in the end, after many years of service, was the boot 🥾
Such an incredibly kind gift of what looks like a brilliant vice. The world still has some kind people left. The table support is coming along nicely. I have no doubt it will add the rigidity you hope for. Thank you for sharing another excellent video. 👏👏👍😀
Let's shape! I like that statement. I really do admire your enthusiasm and clever solutions to problems. Not to mention your use or should I say mastery of the English language.
You've got some good stuff in your scrap pile, I'm almost envious. Also, the Martin vice from Germany to accompany your Made in Germany clamps, great addition.
Great idea Rusti, it is certainly robust lol. I think you win the competition for 'biggest burrs of 2022', in fact probably of all time, I don't think I have ever seen burrs that big in my entire career...... Well done! Cheers, Jon
I'm really jealous that you were able to find such man sized pieces of steel for this project! I'm thinking the next one might include an overhead rail crane like the one Stefan just installed for his Deckel.
Great channel donation from Martin in Germany 🇩🇪 👏. Perfect timing. 0.01 mm out of parallel is very impressive Michel, the "Roughing or Ripper" End milling cutter is designed to be used in the side, so deeper cuts work better. Excellent "Rustinox" design and implementation, thanks for sharing. Best regards from the UK 🇬🇧. John.
Hello Michel, That vice is a very nice donation and I am sure it will be used a lot... That was a nice finish you were getting on the big piece of steel. Take care. Paul,,
I love your humour Michel it's so, so dry ! The support is coming along very well. It would have been nice to see how you got your set up on the angle plate. I wouldn't have believed you could get the two g cramps ( clamps) tight enough to hold that still with all the vibration the cutter makes, but you managed it. In future drill a test hole and ream it then test the pin material to make sure it is correct. The time involved saves you time having to make bigger pins!
Hi Michel ☺, that's a big piece of steel, and it's going to be very useful the way things are going, it certainly won't flex that's for sure. As always your a star at solving problems, whith help from that nice vice from Germany, what a great gift. Thanks for another interesting video mate , I hope everyone there is well, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
@08:30 holy moly! When I studied MTO (~1975 to 1977) I loved shapers for the simplicity and functionality, and usually no oily mess. However, I was most fond of the Bridgeport J-heads for the higher speeds. It's amazing to see how fast you can run that puppy! If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I never would have believed it was possible!
Well done and thanks for the great filming. Nothing is easy. Working on digital control using a stepper motor to turn the crank wheel. Using the table laying and the 3 jaw on it, there is not much air left..... MT3 collets, for metric tools, would be fine, where ever they can be found.
I think that piece of steel, once fixed in place, will give you huge rigidity for your table. You have done some intelligent troubleshooting to get around all of the setup issues and limitations. Martin has donated some nice gear.
Nice work, Rusti. As always, arriving at the exact setup that will fit in the machines working envelope is always a challenge. A very substantial piece of steel, it ought to stiffen it up a treat.
I am filling success even before Part 2 :)> Great solution Michel (@@)! Off to Sammies Memorial,,,Going to be a blessed day, and every one will have the chance to see the beautiful Sand Castle named in her memory by Rustinox. Thanks again, and stay well. Can't wait to see how the keen brace works out,,,Bear
Another great project to improve the machines. Always a treat on Friday mornings to see another Rustinox video. A suggestion though: I think that your facing mill might be slightly smaller than the size of your workpiece. Personally I would have run a pass in each direction covering the edge + one half and if done properly would produce no burrs. Thanks again for the videos.
@@Rustinox Yes, of course :). I figured that was your method but you had mentioned 'gummy metal' so I thought I could mention another option. Some people (like me) might have a bloody time with that much exposed burrs !
Rustinox, i have the Yugoslavia copy of the Deckel FP1, the Prvomajska ALG 100. This type of tilting table is only for light cuts, the much better solution for this type of milling is the "stiff mounted" table. If you can get one, buy one. 😉👍
I have a set of 2 morse taper collets for my little mill, sized 1/8 to 1/2 inch in 1/16 increments. When I have to drill anything on the mill I take what ever size twist bit I need, put it in the ER40 collet Chuck in my lathe and turn it down to fit a 2MT collet that fits my mill. The shanks of the twist bits turn pretty easy with insert tooling, not hard at all.
G'day Rusti, you put a smile on my face when the solution to having to raise the workpiece on the mill was the vice. Again. I should have seen that coming! I couldn't help wondering if the clamps used towards the end were your Made in Germany clamps?
Ciao Rusti!! First of all i have to say that i envy you so much for your Deckel milling machine! Here in Italy, for that model, they asked me 4800 Euros...so i said no! But you surprised me when you said that "the rigidity of that table is a little bit questionable", is it correct? I always thought that your Deckel was a milling so rigid !! It's something new for me !! A nice job !! Ciao from Italy, Alberto.
For 4800 you should have sayd "yes". Over here, for that price, it's a Crismas gift. These machines are not designed to take heavy cuts, so indeed, rigidity is a bit a problem.
I have a very silly question: How heavy would the largest piece of the Deckel machine be, would I take it apart to transport it downstairs? I happen to have the luck of finding someone selling a pretty great shape Deckel FP1, but have the misfortune of having a complicated basement so anything I would buy would have to be brought down by hand.
👍👍It will work because Rusty's doing it😉😉
Lol. Thanks Kev.
I really like how you create solutions to issues that you are facing in your home shop. Rather enjoy watching your channel.
There is always a solution somewhere...
@@Rustinox I worked as a problem solver for a foundry and saved the company millions in labor costs from the changes that I had implemented and all I got in the end, after many years of service, was the boot 🥾
Good Job Son Good Job
And Thank You Martin for helping to make it all possible
Thanks Poppop.
good video rustinox
Thanks Tr.
Such an incredibly kind gift of what looks like a brilliant vice. The world still has some kind people left.
The table support is coming along nicely. I have no doubt it will add the rigidity you hope for. Thank you for sharing another excellent video. 👏👏👍😀
Thanks Andrew. It's indeed a very nice gift.
Sure looks solid. You are having too much fun with that mill. 😊🔩⚒🔧
Indeed, I have :)
Thanks Randy.
Ooh 😯, a cliffhanger! Looking forward, Rusti!
A cliffhanger for me too, Dudly. I still have to finish it.
Looking forward to part 2 👍 🇬🇧
It's in the making :)
THANKS FOR SHARING,
My pleasure, Kimber.
Let's shape! I like that statement. I really do admire your enthusiasm and clever solutions to problems. Not to mention your use or should I say mastery of the English language.
Thanks Warren. It makes things a lot easier wen you like what yo do :)
You've got some good stuff in your scrap pile, I'm almost envious. Also, the Martin vice from Germany to accompany your Made in Germany clamps, great addition.
Thanks Richard.
Those ripper cutters really make big chunks of metal seem so much smaller. I'm kicking myself that I didn't get one sooner. Great job rusty.
You're right. They work really well.
Great idea Rusti, it is certainly robust lol. I think you win the competition for 'biggest burrs of 2022', in fact probably of all time, I don't think I have ever seen burrs that big in my entire career...... Well done! Cheers, Jon
It's logic. It's just the result of a 40mm cutter on a 40mm surface.
I'm really jealous that you were able to find such man sized pieces of steel for this project! I'm thinking the next one might include an overhead rail crane like the one Stefan just installed for his Deckel.
Finding the right material is the hardest part of hobby machining :)
Great channel donation from Martin in Germany 🇩🇪 👏. Perfect timing.
0.01 mm out of parallel is very impressive Michel, the "Roughing or Ripper" End milling cutter is designed to be used in the side, so deeper cuts work better.
Excellent "Rustinox" design and implementation, thanks for sharing.
Best regards from the UK 🇬🇧.
John.
Thanks John. I'm not used to these roughing cutters. I thinh they can do a bit of everything :)
Nice Work
Thanks Paul.
That's a lovely looking vice, how very generous of Martin. Interesting project look forward to the next episode.
Good luck from Spain!!
It's indeed a bit a challenging project. That's the fun of it.
10:43 Those are belated halloween burrs! Some good metal mowing, excellent job Michel thank you for sharing!
Halloween...? Lol. Didn't think of that :)
Hello Rusti. Very nice job on the support. That will work very well. I like the Mill very nice addition to the shop.
Cheers Fred
Thankd Fred.
Excellent work Michel, very helpful to me. The roughing cutter was very interesting. Thanks again.
Thanks Paul. It's the first time I use a roughing cutter.
Hello Michel,
That vice is a very nice donation and I am sure it will be used a lot... That was a nice finish you were getting on the big piece of steel.
Take care.
Paul,,
Thanks Paul. Indeed, the finish on this part is not bad.
Gday Rustinox, definitely going to increase rigidity, the vice donation looks fantastic, thanks for sharing, cheers
Thanks Matty. It's indeed a very nice vice.
Great video Michel, very ambitious project, it looks like a lot of time spent in the shop. Take care and cheers!
Thanks Howie. It's indeed a fun project.
I love your humour Michel it's so, so dry ! The support is coming along very well. It would have been nice to see how you got your set up on the angle plate. I wouldn't have believed you could get the two g cramps ( clamps) tight enough to hold that still with all the vibration the cutter makes, but you managed it. In future drill a test hole and ream it then test the pin material to make sure it is correct. The time involved saves you time having to make bigger pins!
These clamps work surpising well. I use them a lot.
That is becoming a big job. I am certain you will get it completed the best way possible. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Thanks Harold.
Hi Michel ☺, that's a big piece of steel, and it's going to be very useful the way things are going, it certainly won't flex that's for sure. As always your a star at solving problems, whith help from that nice vice from Germany, what a great gift. Thanks for another interesting video mate , I hope everyone there is well, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Thanks Stuart. If this doesn't hold, nothing will :)
@08:30 holy moly! When I studied MTO (~1975 to 1977) I loved shapers for the simplicity and functionality, and usually no oily mess. However, I was most fond of the Bridgeport J-heads for the higher speeds. It's amazing to see how fast you can run that puppy! If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I never would have believed it was possible!
The cutting speed for mild steel, using a HSS cutter, is about 20m/min.
That's what my shaper does.
Well done and thanks for the great filming.
Nothing is easy. Working on digital control using a stepper motor to turn the crank wheel. Using the table laying and the 3 jaw on it, there is not much air left.....
MT3 collets, for metric tools, would be fine, where ever they can be found.
Thanks Stefan. For most work I do, there is enough space.
I think that piece of steel, once fixed in place, will give you huge rigidity for your table. You have done some intelligent troubleshooting to get around all of the setup issues and limitations. Martin has donated some nice gear.
It's indeed a very heavy construction, but it's all I have.
Enjoying your work immensely! Thank you rusty.
Thanks Bruno.
Good one Rusty . Burr of the week ! Nice vice as well 👍
Thanks Max. Did I win something? :)
@@Rustinox Not sure , i have never one it before ! Status Symbol !!!
That is one big lump of steel. Got to win.
Regards.
Steve.
If this doesn't hold, I don't know what will :)
Great project 👍 look forward to part 2!
Thanks Enzo.
Nice work, Rusti. As always, arriving at the exact setup that will fit in the machines working envelope is always a challenge. A very substantial piece of steel, it ought to stiffen it up a treat.
Thanks Mart. I like challenges.
I am filling success even before Part 2 :)> Great solution Michel (@@)! Off to Sammies Memorial,,,Going to be a blessed day, and every one will have the chance to see the beautiful Sand Castle named in her memory by Rustinox. Thanks again, and stay well. Can't wait to see how the keen brace works out,,,Bear
Thanks Bear. I still have to finish it.
Another great project to improve the machines. Always a treat on Friday mornings to see another Rustinox video. A suggestion though: I think that your facing mill might be slightly smaller than the size of your workpiece. Personally I would have run a pass in each direction covering the edge + one half and if done properly would produce no burrs. Thanks again for the videos.
Re the face cutting and the burrs I thought the same but it calls for climb milling. Ought to work but do it with care.
Thanks Doug. One pass and deburring is quicker than two passes and a bit deburring :)
@@Rustinox Yes, of course :). I figured that was your method but you had mentioned 'gummy metal' so I thought I could mention another option. Some people (like me) might have a bloody time with that much exposed burrs !
I really liked this video, good vibes. (No pun intended since it was all about eliminating vibrations), also , Awesome Martin!
Vibes...? Lol. Good one :)
Awesome project Rusty !
Thanks Dean. Let's hope it works :)
Well at least you didn’t break a tap at the last step - I just did….😢
Good job again!
I messed up an endmill :(
Rustinox, i have the Yugoslavia copy of the Deckel FP1, the Prvomajska ALG 100.
This type of tilting table is only for light cuts, the much better solution for this type of milling is the "stiff mounted" table.
If you can get one, buy one. 😉👍
Good idea, but i'll have to win the lottery first :)
@@Rustinox okay that's exactly the same problem, that i have too.
😉
I have found that it pays off to use morse taper drills on a small mill like this. This eliminates the drillchuck. And the setup is short
That makes perfect sense.
Great video rusty, there's more than one way to skin a cat, lol...
Poor cat :)
I have a set of 2 morse taper collets for my little mill, sized 1/8 to 1/2 inch in 1/16 increments. When I have to drill anything on the mill I take what ever size twist bit I need, put it in the ER40 collet Chuck in my lathe and turn it down to fit a 2MT collet that fits my mill. The shanks of the twist bits turn pretty easy with insert tooling, not hard at all.
Yes, that works perfectly fine.
Great problem solving skills! 👍😁
Thanks.
Sorted! Next please🤔
Let me finish this one first :)
Mooie video😁
Thanks Daan.
You do a great of makeing the best of a bad thing , take care
That's what I rty to do anyway :)
Well done mate 👏 👍
Thanks.
G'day Rusti, you put a smile on my face when the solution to having to raise the workpiece on the mill was the vice. Again. I should have seen that coming!
I couldn't help wondering if the clamps used towards the end were your Made in Germany clamps?
Thanks Rod.
Indeed, made in Germany clamps.
horizontal drilling ! i love it
It works great!
Ciao Rusti!! First of all i have to say that i envy you so much for your Deckel milling machine! Here in Italy, for that model, they asked me 4800 Euros...so i said no! But you surprised me when you said that "the rigidity of that table is a little bit questionable", is it correct? I always thought that your Deckel was a milling so rigid !! It's something new for me !! A nice job !! Ciao from Italy, Alberto.
For 4800 you should have sayd "yes". Over here, for that price, it's a Crismas gift.
These machines are not designed to take heavy cuts, so indeed, rigidity is a bit a problem.
@@Rustinox Ah really?? But where are you from? I always believe that in Italy prices are bigger that the correct! 😅
@@ab-shop I'm in Belgium.
Looking good so far but if it doesn't work out you at least have a substantial bookshelf stop end😂
You're right. I didn't think of that.
A vice can solve many problems, but not all.
Spot on.
Rusty, I keep meaning to ask, did you buy the can with the brush on or did you make it, another interesting video by the way.
I bought this can as is. You can find them on line as "glue pump with brush" for leather.
I have a very silly question: How heavy would the largest piece of the Deckel machine be, would I take it apart to transport it downstairs?
I happen to have the luck of finding someone selling a pretty great shape Deckel FP1, but have the misfortune of having a complicated basement so anything I would buy would have to be brought down by hand.
The column and the base are one part and dus the most heavy piece to move. All the other parts are also heavy, but I think it must be possible.
@@Rustinox Thanks, will try and see if its still available and find a few friends to help out carrying 😊
@@HibikiKano Go for it!
Hi rusty what collets are you using with the normal deckel head? Any idea where I can get them from
These are the original Deckel collets that came with the machine.
Actually probably not but we will see you!
Who knows?
What happened to the swing crane?
I still have it. Just waiting for the next lifting job.
@@Rustinox I just wondered because I remembered it being to lift the mill head? Love the show btw. I never miss an episode :) Stay well :)
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Hanging right in there with you buddy! Enjoyed watching, thanks.
Thanks John.