New tunnel dome design
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2018
- I did a tutorial showing that there are two different ways to triangulate a tunnel type structurer: • sketchup geodesic tunn...
This design is the other way, I don't normally build tunnels in this format but after seeing a picture of the network rail station at canary wharf, I thought that it could be a useful design.
I liked the ends that curve out towards the top and a triangulated tunnel will have no problem withstanding any snow load.
If you like this design or have any questions/comments about it let me know in the comments section below.
Thanks for watching.
My website: www.geo-dome.co.uk
Download plans here: geo-dome.co.uk/freestuff/cw18f... - Навчання та стиль
Beautiful building! Love the simplicity. 👍
Quite interesting concept as a winter garden Paul.
Hi Paul: I very much like the idea of the tunnel greenhouse, but if it were truncated at the apex of the highest point rather than a row or two lower at the rear, it could be constructed adjacent and attached to a house and avoid the "debris collector" area between the apex and the point where it would be attached to the house. Plans of these various ideas would be well received.
Best - Michael
I really like the look of this.. the one straight wall is perfect for where I want to place it.
Looks way better than a poly tunnel.
Hi Paul, I love your very elegant design. I have been looking at domes, but this shape looks far more practical, and extendable as needs develop. I’d be very grateful to have the plans when they are ready. Thanks for sharing!
OK rough plans are done, link in description
Nice design! It has a pleasing shape and looks very sturdy. The flat wall has many practical uses. Maybe it could be against a building. Or the flat side could contain a thermal mass, such as the tire wall that Robert Coffin suggested or barrels full of water, etc. I would probably want to build one.
This looks great. Looking forward to plans!
OK done, link in description
Why I've not come across your site before last night is difficult to say. I'm glad I have though.
This is potentially more practical for smaller plots than a dome, and I think it's great. I've been thinking of something similar above a sunken garden with a trombe wall at the rear to temper the heat.
I love your work... and this tunnel is exactly what I was looking for... Please go ahead with this original plan...
OK done link in description
It certainly has an appeal. I could see one end wall flush with the top and one recessed: even with the bottom; leaving an awning on one end. It is elegant.
I have watched this video several times. I am all in! 🙏🏽 Thanks for sharing your design. I will be in contact...
That's a great idea and design. I am so interested that I would consider building this after my dome house is completed later this year. Thanks.
Backwall, but make it with holes with netting to the backside, and then you fill up leaf and grass compost high against the wall. Free heating into your greenhouse for the winter! 👍 😊 Nice design. Probably very sturdy too.
Would love to have the plans. I also think it would be really cool to connect a tunnel to a done on one or both ends
Done, link in description
+1 for the plan! This look wonderfull
brilliant! love it!
this is brilliant, just waiting for plans to build this
OK you can download from the link in the description now
I am definitely interested in plans for this. I will buying some of your other plans as well.
There's a link in the description to the plans now
Many thanks!
Very interesting, thanks.
I plan to design a center dome that can have up to six 'tunnels' connected to it. I love this design with the part that extends out. Looks very nice. Goal is to have a center common room and each tunnel its own function, like kitchen, bedroom, office etc. Did you every combine a structure like this with a dome? I first planned to do that with containers (in place of the tunnels) and a dome on top in the middle, but this seems more cost effective and also much nicer to look at.
Really like the original design you made. The one with the rear wall seems like it would loose some of its strength for a snow load and doesn't have the same aesthetic appeal. I'm thinking of building one like your original and then putting a wall inside on the north end similar to your second design. From the outside it will look great like your original and will have a place for shelves and added strength for snow.
Great stuff. Let us know where to get plans when you have them. There seems to be just one side of the triangle needing a bevel.
I do like this!
Oh yes, I'd like to see the plans and the video of the build if you construct it. I did a rather plain gambrel roof greenhouse over my cellar and I'd consider remaking the front to this style or an overlap.
Crazy busy just now but hope to get the tunnel built late spring or summer, I'll pst a link to the plans when they are done.
I very much like this design . With the flat wall and end extentions . I would rather work with equal lateral triangles .
Yes yes yes! Plans please .... this is awesome. Thanks
I've just added the download link to the description
Looks much better than a Polytunnel. At a charity by me they have several polytunnels but youths got on the ground and slashed them. They look even worse with the gashes taped up. Using triangles not only looks better and more sturdy but also means the individual triangles could be recovered if damaged.
Not so keen on the riser wall. Would look better if sunken into the ground slightly. A bit like they do in South America. Just remember to use a dense material for the submerged walls to trap the heat, like stone or brick.
I think something half way between the two designs might look nice. i.e. use the second design but on the wall side bring the roof down one extra row of triangles.
Hi Paul ... Just found your channel and everything looks great. Plans for this would be great. Must say I like this design better then the other tunnel design.
An idea could be to build the complete tunnel and then put internal wall for your shelving system. Use the space behind that wall for storage. Just an idea
thanks again. Very inspirational
Yes that's what I might end up doing. There's a link to the plans in the description now.
Poly tunnels are cheap; and they look it! Definitely interested in a plan. Watched the vid again.
Link to plans in the description
In the version with the high back wall, will there be a lot of sideways force on the top of of the wall? It looks like it would be forced out if the dome sags. If one had a sloping site of the correct orientation, then the tunnel could be built into the slope to take advantage of the thermal mass of the earth. Vertical alcoves behind the wall with access both from the top, and inside the greenhouse, could be filled with compost to provide extra heat. I have watched a lot of your videos over the weekend. Very informative, so thanks for sharing your experience of design and construction.
Yes please do plans
Make the back wall from earthen tire wall and it kinda reminds me of an earthship.
Excellent idea!
Yes, but only take the 1st half length wise - that way the water flows only away from the ES. Can it be made taller?
Cheers
yes...definitely plans.
Check the description for link to plans
Find this and was I've been looking for this year. The only thing is can one end be a full round closed end? and how best to add it to this design.
Thanks
I love your design and would go with the tall back wall. I live in Canada and snow loads and solar orientation are important. I too like the simplicity and low cost of the ubiquitous poly-tunnel, but don’t like the look, nor the stability. I would consider building using a SIRE wall (rammed earth with an insulating core) for thermal mass and structural strength. And I’d build one with annualized geothermal storage so I can create a Mediterranean climate. Very interested in plans for this.
Cool, Keep an eye out here and I'll post a link to the plans when I have a moment.
Verry nice !!! Will be great if you can make a video on how to design this type of greenhouse :-)
Paul, it would be great to have the plans. I will need it for my aquaponic farm in the tropic. Thank you in advance.
OK done them, link in description.
I want one 60' x 20' with the largest side to any of the triangles less than or equal to 2' lengths. One plan with a back wall and riser on the front and one with only a riser wall of triangles about the same exact dimensions as the tunnel itself. It needs doors at each end. Also how do you keep it cool in the summer? Will need screened windows more than likely on the top. Plan to back fill the North Wall is why I want such small triangles. They would be more stronger and the sides that meet the full length of it will need the right angle cut on that board so it arches properly. Only one size triangle is why I want this. I can make it out of Scarp wood. 2" x 4:" no longer than 2' lengths? This is cool.
Great design and would buy a plan much neater than my poly tunnel will you use a high grade poly sheet to cover or individual triangle poly carbon sections
Paul, I like the design, especially the design with the taller “back” wall. We are looking to add a green house behind my woodworking shop and this could be scaled to fit, oriented east-west with the “back” wall on the north side, facing our bog filter and duck pond. I know you are not a fan of water heat storage, but I could see this back wall with a two foot tall line of water tanks, and then shelving above it. The water might not store a lot of heat, but would add humidity. Also a place to store cuttings/plants from our bog filter over the winter. I would be interested in plans. I presume one outside edge of each triangle would be beveled to shape the arch.
Yes bevel and is 10° there is also a tiny nip to take off the top point, I'll post a link to plans which will show more details.
Paul, I like your design, as does Household Six. I am thinking about front and back walls recessed with a couple of posts to support the front and back extensions. That would provide protected entrances in inclement weather. I imagine the the length is somewhat scalable. John
How does the structural strength of a tunnel compare to that of a dome ? Does a tunnel have a weakness in any particular direction ? I really like the simplicity of this design .... my understanding is the beautiful structure can be built using a single size triangle, yes ? Except maybe for the end walls 😀 Keep up the Great Work, sir !!!
Hi Paul, great design, I would love plans for the full tunnel for a commercial idea I have. Kind Regards, Andrew
I love your work. Question - what's the structure strength of a stretched dome? I'm assuming it's stronger than a hoop house. I'm in a high wind area often getting 60mph (100kph) winds and need a greenhouse structure strong enough to withstand that, it's just at the limit for a hop house but I got the feeling these are stronger??? also do you have plans for one of these tunnel domes made from metal conduit instead wood? Thank you again and please keep up the great work!!!
Yes much stronger than a hoop house, I have built both, snow load really damages hoop houses but the triangulated version will take any snow you can throw at it. Yes you could do this with conduit, you would need quite a bit of anti hotspot tape though. Leave it with me I'll see if I can put something together.
OMG Thank you soooo much!
Hi this looks great, would love plans as need to replace a plastic glasshouse roof. Will the plans be scalable, as am needing it to be either 3.1m or 6.2m span. Would changing the size(length) of the pieces of the triangles change the span?
Thanks for all your designs. What software are you using to create your designs with?
I love the single high wall design.
I use sketchup pro for drawing now
I am interested in plans for full arch tunnel
Reminds me of hangers by Junkers
This would be a great way to cover my front porch. Is there a formula to put the height and the width and find out what size triangle to make?
Yes. I am for plans at a reasonable cost. I would like both designs.
There's a link to free version in the description now.
Please do plans for this version!
Love your Canary Wharf design, the north wall could be earth bank base on Chinese greenhouse theme, is there plan available?.
Plans please. I'm just finishing up my dome and have been researching quansets. I would much prefer this.
Download link in description now
Hi Paul, would love to buy a set of plans
I would like to see the drawings for the flat back dome. we are planning to building domes or tunnels for organic growers in our area. would be interesting to see how difficult to build
No problem, I'lll post a link as soon as I have time.
What about back filling the back wall with composting material to provide heat in the winter and fresh compost for your garden?
Yep I think you are sot on with that ideas, I did a compost heated bed in the pyramid greenhouse last year which works really well, a double polythene layer would also boost efficiency.
have you made these domes wth double air inflated poly? Does it work well?
Equilateral is good ... Only need to make one spar cutting jig and one panel assembly jig ...
What program have you used to create this would love to have a go
With a back insulated wall to the north this looks amazingly like a chinese solar greenhouse (google it). How about covering this with long horisontal strips of double walled polycarbonate, screwed to the frames? And make the triangels just wide enough to allow the polycarbonate sheets to slightly overlap with an overhang where the tunnel bends? And perhaps also change the bevel to change the curve towards the top. Start with a low curvature to gain hight, increase it to create a bend and finally reduce it again to span the width?
Did you build this one Paul? and are there any plans available.
Are the plans still available for this. All I get is a blank screen whenever I click on the link
So can you connect multiple tunnels together at different angles? What would that look like? Can you connect a tunnel into the middle of this tunnel? What would that look like?
Not with this design, but I do have a design that you can do that, search bi grid tutorial for inspiration
I like to build a 25m width x 40m length tunel Dome with all struts length less than 2m . Can you help me design it pls !
Yeah, I am interested in the plans as well ... looking to make a workshop for my woodworking and a creative space for my wife. I wanted to do a geodome but after looking hard at my land a geodome would be super inefficient.
Yeh geo-domes are great but they sometimes just don't fit, I like to offer different solutions if at all possible. I'll post a link to plans shortly
Thanks, yeah I still want to build a geodome eventually just not for my current property
Ok link is in the description now
I didn't notice the plans for these tunnels in your shop. Was I looking in the wrong place i wonder?
This would work out great for a sunken greenhouse with earth berm on north side.
If you built this and sank it into the ground the height of the wall. You would have some thermal heating or cooling at not cost. An air filled cover would not hurt. But I like your way of thinking.
Yes I think I can do a double skin without the need to have a fan blowing all the time.
I would love a plan as well
OK there's a link to download the plans in the description
I would like to use this technique to build a wood shop.
I assume it would be a 10 degree bevel on each horizontal edge x 18 edges = 180 degrees and that the length of each of the sides of the equilateral triangle would be in the vicinity of 500mm looking at the rough scale in the clip...
Yes the bevel angle is 10° I have the equilateral sides at 956mm. Total height is about 2.2m and the width is 4m. Length is 10m in the drawing, so you can get an idea of scale. I'm working on drawings now, I'll make a copy available to all commenters.
How much stronger/weaker is this design compared to the other one where the triangles go up and down along the tube...(inverted bavel)?
I need a solar dehydrator in the farm. We sun dry our corn, rice and bananas. I’m of the opinion that a poly tunnel would do better.
I say go 4-6 feet underground and then do a domed tunnel... You then get 3 walls and full day sun usages... Micros dont need much light
lotta old barn this shape roof
Plans pls!
OK done, link in the description
Are they done yet??? :-)
working on them now....
Yes, check the link in the description
I tried I don't understand math. I didn't know how to geodeic dome and sphere design class math. :(
plans please ;0)
OK working on them now...
Link in description now
WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COST FACTOR ON THIS SET OF PLANS WOULD BE
THANKS FOR BRAIN STORMIN THIS
BLESSINGS & BE HOPE FILLED
FRANKI
early there with the plans, should have something after the easter weekend.
Ok all done, check the description for link
Came across this video shows a bit more detail of the construction. ua-cam.com/video/GHjlXBLmjkM/v-deo.html
Ehhhhmmm
Hows your neighbours