I think your initial inclination with Winnipeg was correct: 3-7 in their last 10 with 4 straight losses with no significant changes in their roster health to explain such an implosion.
I think the losses of Ehlers and Samberg are alot more significant than what is being said... our PP doesn't work without Ehlers and the work Samberg does in the D zone makes a difference every single game he plays. He does the small things that go unnoticed. We also have illness and other undisclosed injuries that haven't been made public at this point. If you look at the Vegas and Dallas games, both games were tied until the last 10 mins of the games and our guys couldn't battle back after those teams took the lead. Think what needs to happen is if we are tied with 5 or less mins to spare, put our strongest D players out there on the ice and take it to OT. And if the goalie is pulled, once the boys score one, get the goalie back in. We could have built on that 3-1 last night if Helle was back in net instead of letting it go to 4-1.
As a Chicago fan, I’m flirting with anger only because we’ve seen that this team is *capable* of being competitive, but the inconsistency has been maddening-and for me, the coaching has been majorly head-scratching. Look, no one is picking Chicago for the playoffs. But with the way the team has showed it *can* play, and the number of leads the Hawks have taken into the third only to acquiesce and wind up losing, the fact of the matter is we should be significantly closer to a .500 team than we are. For a team that is desperate to find mojo where it can get it, these kinds of results have just been nightly gut punches.
Right on with the jets. This has to change tonight. If they cant get at least 3 goals, not to mention a win, against buffalo tonight, im in panic mode. PERIOD!
For the canes it is "the other shoe dropping". The run in the beginning was a happy surprise but now their weakness is showing from the off season moves.
I’ve been a Sharks fan for nearly 2 decades now. I’ve never been so excited for this team, Celebrini brings a championship energy. The future looks bright.
As a sharks fan, we're still very realistic of where the team is. That said... This season so far has been "gravy". The buzz is growing, more tickets are being sold... They're being talked about (finally!!) on local sports radio. The sharks are the only bay area team that's on their way up.. the franchise has a big opportunity with that.
Minnesota should be one tier lower on this index as of December 4th for 2 reasons; 1) Jonas Brodin could very easily be out long term if he doesn’t find some back relief, he’s already been out more than 2 weeks. 2) Eriksson Ek could be out medium term after taking a knee on knee yesterday. He’s listed week to week Not even mentioning Zucc who is a few more weeks out, Jacub Lauko who is a few weeks out… Minnesota is basically on life support as far as their starting roster goes. This will test Hynes’ structure like it hasn’t been yet this year. If Gus wasn’t our starting goalie we might be a bubble team at this date, with some of the injuries we’ve accumulated. Hynes already should be looked at as a Adams candidate but if they get through these injuries and stay top 3 in the central he should basically be a heavy lock
Dallas has played well recently, but Seguin out for the season while Robo and Johnston are still struggling in the Pavelski vacuum definitely warrants ok-at-best in the vibes category. We're all waiting for the trade deadline.
With the Jackets, Im definitely in the concerned column. BUT Im also happy we are doing well enough that i can even have enough expectations of the team to BE concerned. Its a strange feeling.
Sorry but Pittsburgh is still panicking, and they should be. They are an awful team, and we aren’t fooled by a modest 4 game winning streak. Even one of those games we blew a 3 goal lead, and one of them we almost blew a 5-1 lead. The defense is terrible, might be the worst penguins defense core I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, and both goalies are over 3.00 GAA and under .900 sv%. That’s just absurdly bad.
If you've been watching the sharks and are a fan of hockey, even if you root for another team, it's hard not to jump on that bandwagon right now. They're fun to watch.
As a ducks fan, I would have probably put them one row down to Panic. Im just not convinced we’ve made a huge stride as apposed to last year. Our offense still feels weak, and we don’t have a clear Star. It just seems very boring, despite the young talent we have. We don’t have that one player who everyone is excited about and is making great plays every game. We are facing two playoff teams back to back, so goodbye to .500. That, and no news on trades despite having over 20 mil in cap space is frustrating. It feels like no one wants to come here.
RE: Nashville~~~ trying to remember the last time any team broke the bank with contracts to high-value free agents and it actually worked out.. It's one thing to add a superstar in the offseason but spending dumptruck loads of money on several of them almost never works out. Hard to buy chemistry, as they say.
Closest would be St Louis in 2018, though the names were not as high profile. But that’s the reason when all the experts were picking Nashville I was a doubter. Even if you pick all the right players, it takes awhile to figure out where they will fit on your team. And that’s even ignoring that their pickups were older in an NHL that is constantly getting younger and faster
@@woodsie22 Agree, Predicted Nashville, in this forum, would be a " Bust " & they are. Took a lot of heat with my post, however one cannot expect superstar results from aging veterans.
With Vancouver. I'm very happy. Considering all the injuries and all the players that have been in and out of the lineup, they've been able to stay afloat and stay in the hunt. DeBrusk has found his game. Pettersson is playing very well, and Quinn Hughes is doing well.
I hope so, when Georgie is in net, it could be 4 goals on five shots or 1 goal on 28 shots. He is the most inconsistent goalie in the league and I might need a new liver if he stays as the starter.
@@CamGoldberg3796 He's never close to Vezina. His wins are often the result of the Avs scoring 4+ goals. This season, he is actually negative on saves over expected. I think the Avs save % is 31st in the league. JA may have potential, but he also tends to give up early goals, and often does not stop the bleeding if he goes in in relief of Georgia. That is the same in reverse, too. Last night at least, Wedgewood came in cold, barely having time to introduce himself to the team after the trade, and shut the door for the rest of the game. You could see the Avs skaters gain confidence as the game progressed.
So. Avs need a goalie that is good enough. The goalie doesn't have to be lights out. Just good enough. Avs won with Kuemper, who's not exactly a lights out goalie. He was just good enough. And for Avs fans wanting Gibson, not gonna happen. He has a no trade clause and he's making 6.4 this season. Avs can't afford it and he has to approve the trade anyway
Definitely know some fans that panicking a little as a Chicago fan, but as you said we were not expecting anything this season realistically. We wanted to be better than last year and have a better team which I think we did not by like 300% but we have improved and are still rebuilding
I'm a Leafs' fan, who's overall happy. The Leafs have been a hearty hockey team, nothing glamorous playing a lunch pail gang style. If they keep working, keep getting wins, and bring this throughout to the playoffs, I'm happy.
I personally would've put the Isles in the Anger category. Lou's legendary passivity has singlehandedly put that team in the doldrums, and the fact that there's been zero indication that he's going anywhere has been drawing no small amount of ire from the Isles fanbase. The moves that need to be made simply aren't because Lou refuses to pull the trigger, and as long as he remains sitting in the GM seat, I don't see that team going anywhere.
With the Avs, I feel like they've been playing every first period with an empty net. And it's hard to be a defenseman when you don't feel your gt is solid back there.
I think you could make the argument that panic is the first stage of grief, it just passes to denial so quickly that it isn't counted or gets counted as part of denial.
Another dad on my kid's bantam is is a huge Red Wing fan. Angry is a perfect spot for them. He is so flippin angry about Detroit right now. As a Sharks' fan, I just get a double-delight seeing the kids play well and seeing him rage!
Coming from a Blackhawks fan, I can say confidently that there is a lot of panic from the fan base. Sure we weren’t necessarily expected to be a playoff team, but at this point with all of the moves we made during the offseason, there was certainly an expectation for the team to take that next step forward. And they’ve showed it in a lot of games, including their losses this season that they can hang with some of the better teams in the NHL. And for them to be in last place in the overall standings right now?There’s definitely panic for the future of this organization.
As a Chicago fan, I basically agree with Shannon. With so many of our prospects playing in Rockford right now, it's hard to be too concerned. I just want Richardson to stick with a top line so Bedard can get comfortable with his linemates.
I'm a Bruins fan and watched tonight. The Blackhawks didn't win, but I saw a lot of quality play from them. Their defense corps looks like a thin spot, but overall there seems to be great potential for this team. Hang in there :-)
In the times of matchfixing in Polish football (a.k.a. "soccer") we had a coach here, who tasked with saving a particuarly weak team, used to say: "there's nothing to train here, we gotta make some calls" - meaning: I will call my contacts and see if we can fix some results. Seeing that little red phone in the bottom row always makes me crack a smile.
i still think it's early enough in the season and considering they were a playoff team last year and they sort of upgraded over the off season smashville should be more in the anger category for attempting to buy chemistry which never works in hockey
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. They mopped the floor with us. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
With the atlantic, is it that Buffalo, Ottawa, Detroit and Montreal aren't getting any better, or is it that Florida, Tampa, Toronto and to a lesser degree Boston get better every year as "destination" clubs?
as a bruins fan, not Boston. You want hard playoffs, its a decent place (assuming they make it, tho im still skeptical) you want a tittle tho? go somewhere else, Bruins dont win championships.
Wings fan here, yeah lots of anger for sure but slipping into apathy. Until they start winning Little Caesars Arena isn’t getting any more of my money.
The Red Wings are absolutely anger inducing right now. I've never seen a team of theirs with potential be so gutless night after night. Yzerman is looking more and more like a fraud.
Thanks for the video! Mostly good but I think the Pens might be more concerned because even the four wins doesn't have them in contention. We'll see if you drop them down in a couple of weeks.
I'll tell you that as a sens fan, I'm fucking livid that Korpisalo and Ullmark freaky-fridayed as soon as the trade went through... Ottawa is where goalies come to die!
as a bruins fan who has watched korpi go from hot garbage to pretty decent/good at points, is that more on the goalie coaching? Feels like lots of goalies who came to boston in recent years have performed quite well, and when they leave, sometimes seem to take a step back. I wont speak for the sens since i dont follow them enough to have an opinion, but getting Ullmark i feel should have made them better and....they just arent. Is it fully on Ullmark, or is there something else in play?
I might put the Caps in the second row. They have been winning and they are better than last year. However, Ovi is out and while he has started skating, this is the most severe injury of his career. I think the goaltending has been pretty good, though not including the San Jose game, they have been allowing more goals as a team than I'd like to see. Maybe some anger with no Capital being selected for the 4 Nations Face-Off. They're leading the Metro for crying out loud!!
Definitely concerned for Carolina. Losing against the panthers and then being dominated by the kraken is not a good look. Things could be worse though. Coach rod didn’t seem too happy.
As a Flames fan, I'm happy. No one expected them to do anything this year and all I wanted was to see them be competitive. Even if they do fall off a cliff, we weren't supposed to be good this season anyway.
Zero panic in Carolina and it's really the OK type of "concern" where you always know injuries are possible and playoff spots have to be clinched and never taken for granted. If goalie interference didn't include goalies going outside the crease to shove players, the Canes win that game. Even going .500 for the next two months is fine for Carolina with everything being about how Andersen does on the return.
As an Isles fan, I'm definitely in anger mode but never in waiting for a phone call mode. I have seen this team turn it around before and we are close to getting Barzal, Duclair, and Pelech back. If we can weather the storm for a little longer, look out.
I think the main question for the Islanders this year is: Is Cole Eiserman for real or is he Bellows & Wahlstrom chapter 3. If he's the real deal, and I hear he's doing pretty good in the NCAA, there's hope for the future. Does he play one more year in college or does he come up next year?
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
Chicago is getting annoyed. They'll blow out Dallas 6-2, but then blow 2 goal leads and lose to Philly and Minnesota and blow 2-1 leads against San Jose and Anaheim, all those leads going into the 3rd period. I know this team isn't playoff worthy but come on they should be closer to .500 then they are now with this lineup. I will add an asterisk as 2024 overall for Chicago sports fans has been lets just say.... a bit rough
Panic Index video.. Classic choice, wearing THG Hat & H2G2 jersey. Just need a small NHL logo towel over the shoulder. (one of the small ones players wipe their visors with would work nicely.)
I can't get over how bad this season has been for the Preds. They had looked to be one of the most improved teams and looked like they were going to be a beast come playoff time. Still could, but that ship is ready to leave port. Another team that befuddles me is the Rangers and I have to wonder if part of that is the concern that they might lose Shesterkin. And then the question becomes just how much money does it take to get him to sign and if you pay it are you going to ruin the entire team? Is it worth it? Who knows. One last team to mention here is Colorado. Good grief they have goalie miseries, for sure. I am a Stars fan, but to be honest, it would be a miserable shame to waste years with the talent they have because you can't find an adequate goalie. They don't need a Vezina Trophy winner, they need a good consistent NHL goalie with about a .915 save percentage.
as a leafs fan, the leafs definitely are not panicking. seems like berube lit a fire under their ass, well that and it being a contract year for tavares and marner, they're playing great.
The Flyers should always be in the concerned slot, no matter how well they're doing. Sincerely, a cautiously optimistic Flyers fan with more cautiousness than optimism...
I understand the desire to have Chicago in the East, even if I can't find a realignment to do that that makes sense. However, no matter how you align the conferences, they will only be in one division.
With the mindset of this finally being the drop off year for Boston, they haven’t been doing too bad minus a couple rough games. Still like their cores chance to turn it around
I'm on board with the Penguins placement. For one, pre christmas winstreaks are a Pens tradition and also... I think most Pens fans have kind of adjusted their expectations at this point. See where it goes this year, maybe kick the Rangers out of a playoff spot which would be very funny, maybe even make the playoffs, or not, then tank next year. It's all good =)
I have mild concern for Minnesota. There are some significant injuries piling up. But that said the underachievers are overachieving this year. It's still hard for me to believe that the team is as good as their record. Next year may be bonkers for the Wild!
@TheHockeyGuy Shannon, I agree with almost everything you posted for you panic index. Only ones I'm wavering on not are the Kings (overachieving) and Avalanche (have the horses to improve in the standings)... 1000% agreement are where you put the Rangers. If they are not in panic mode, when will they? I say if they lose at least 2 of the next 3 games. I was already saying through the last 4 games through Monday's embarrassing loss to the Devils, still nothing has been done yet. Fan frustration will boil over if the Rangers drop ALL of their upcoming games to the Penguins, Kraken and Blackhawks. Sure is possible. And IF it does, it will get really really ugly. Maybe benchings, Chris Drury losing his job or Peter Laviolette losing his. I don't support a coaching change.
Honestly feels like the kings have been underachieving standings wise considering how many games they’ve lost against bottom feeder teams. They seem to play very well against top tier teams which is good
Thoughts...WPG. I think they are hitting a slide similar to what VGK did last year after an unsustainable start. The Jets don't have any obvious problems, so I think they'll pick it back up soon...On the other hand...CAR... 😒 ...What is so frustrating is that, while they seem to always have an embarrassment of riches on the front line, and often the back as well, they have never - NEVER - invested in top shelf goaltending. I like Kochetkov, but he's still a young guy. He needs to learn behind somebody more polished, and Andersen (when he's available) to me is not that guy...LAK. Man, whatever the Kings did after that sputtering start worked. Solid everywhere now...SJS. I was saying earlier in the season that once they got Celebrini chemically involved in the offense that it would, more than anything, change the way opponents' defenses play the Sharks - opening up far more holes at the net. The same way McDavid effs with defenses, Celebrini does the same. He'll be a fountain of assists going forward, and he has complimentary parts around him as well...I am done...
As a Wild fan. I’m enjoying the moment but there is a little bit of panic as it’s minnesota sports. it has to come crashing down right? Add the presidency trophy curse and we have to be swept in the first round. Whatever. I’ll enjoy it while I can.
If the Sharks continue performing above expected, there is no reason to move them from the top row. That being said, If they go on a long losing streak and start getting blown out....It's anger. Going to the game tomorrow in Tampa. I have high hopes for a win/close defeat. I went last year and expected nothing and came away with a win in OT.
Avalanche after coming back vs the Sabers down 4-0 should not be panicking, nor below Buffalo. Even with the proposed goalie situation I would swap those 2 teams places at minimum.
Agree with San Jose, we didn't expect anything this season but it's going better than expected and gives us a great look at what kind of future we might have. I was discussing Nashville at a Waffle House with one of their fans in the preseason. They were very concerned about their team but I couldn't believe it would be that bad. She was dead on.
At least he's doing more than the entire first line of the jets recently, their last 7 games. Now that's frustrating. It's not the only reason they're struggling right now but that line sure as hell ain't helping them anything
I think most ducks fans are concerned. All I see in the Reddit and on social media are people overreacting to behind the scene stuff, line changes, and wanting Cronin to be fired desperately
Thing with Ducks fans is when they are winning the coach is the best coach ever and when they lose he's the worst ever. Very hot and cold fanbase. I know because that's me.
Panthers need a better Top 4 D-man. Adam Boqvist and Schmidt aren't exactly OEL and Montour replacements. I may be wrong, but do not be surprised if the Panthers take a D-man during the trade deadline, and maybe even a forward like Tarasenko.
Speaking as a Columbus fan, given everything surroinding it I don't think the Calgarybgame should count. You're not wrong about their competing records, though, and I am concerned.
Too much optimism with Pittsburgh. It's just been a steady decline for the past five years. Why would it suddenly completely reverse and 180 from lottery likely's to playoff team
Sorry Bardown, THG is the king of Panic Indexes
I watched that very TSN video and came away quite unimpressed particularly when compared to THG's own panic-index ones.
I hope Richard Panik is doing well
He's kalm
"Ah Richard Panik, I haven't heard that name in a long time" -👴🏻
@@Retr-vc4wn "Of course I know him; he's me."
@@Retr-vc4wn
The Hawks could use him now.
Blackhawks legend Richard Panik
He could play on a line with Bedard and Teravainen right now!
I think your initial inclination with Winnipeg was correct: 3-7 in their last 10 with 4 straight losses with no significant changes in their roster health to explain such an implosion.
I think the losses of Ehlers and Samberg are alot more significant than what is being said... our PP doesn't work without Ehlers and the work Samberg does in the D zone makes a difference every single game he plays. He does the small things that go unnoticed.
We also have illness and other undisclosed injuries that haven't been made public at this point.
If you look at the Vegas and Dallas games, both games were tied until the last 10 mins of the games and our guys couldn't battle back after those teams took the lead. Think what needs to happen is if we are tied with 5 or less mins to spare, put our strongest D players out there on the ice and take it to OT. And if the goalie is pulled, once the boys score one, get the goalie back in. We could have built on that 3-1 last night if Helle was back in net instead of letting it go to 4-1.
Tons of anger in Buffalo
Dude you are awesome! So glad this channel popped up in my feed
As a Sharks fan I'm panicking because we're winning games and we WERENT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT THIS YEAR
I was really hoping for a top 4 pick this year, then next year start showing progress. I feel like we're 2 years ahead of schedule
Sharks are still 4th last by points percentage, they could easily still pick top 5 next draft
If they win, let em ride, but sharks should avoid buying at the deadline..
I wish you'd give us a few wins as we can't do anything right now. From a jets fan
As a Chicago fan, I’m flirting with anger only because we’ve seen that this team is *capable* of being competitive, but the inconsistency has been maddening-and for me, the coaching has been majorly head-scratching. Look, no one is picking Chicago for the playoffs. But with the way the team has showed it *can* play, and the number of leads the Hawks have taken into the third only to acquiesce and wind up losing, the fact of the matter is we should be significantly closer to a .500 team than we are. For a team that is desperate to find mojo where it can get it, these kinds of results have just been nightly gut punches.
Right on with the jets. This has to change tonight. If they cant get at least 3 goals, not to mention a win, against buffalo tonight, im in panic mode. PERIOD!
For the canes it is "the other shoe dropping". The run in the beginning was a happy surprise but now their weakness is showing from the off season moves.
I’ve been a Sharks fan for nearly 2 decades now. I’ve never been so excited for this team, Celebrini brings a championship energy. The future looks bright.
Celebrini is better than Bedard and Canadians can fight me.
I'm a Capitals fan, whatever that's worth.
So bright you gotta wear shades.
The future is teal!
Canes are collapsing. They need to get it together
As a sharks fan, we're still very realistic of where the team is. That said... This season so far has been "gravy".
The buzz is growing, more tickets are being sold... They're being talked about (finally!!) on local sports radio.
The sharks are the only bay area team that's on their way up.. the franchise has a big opportunity with that.
Havent been this happy to be a sharks fan since 2019.
Fun fact: panic is part of the bargaining phase
Lots my fellow Detroit fans doing a lot of bargaining right now.
Minnesota should be one tier lower on this index as of December 4th for 2 reasons;
1) Jonas Brodin could very easily be out long term if he doesn’t find some back relief, he’s already been out more than 2 weeks.
2) Eriksson Ek could be out medium term after taking a knee on knee yesterday. He’s listed week to week
Not even mentioning Zucc who is a few more weeks out, Jacub Lauko who is a few weeks out…
Minnesota is basically on life support as far as their starting roster goes.
This will test Hynes’ structure like it hasn’t been yet this year.
If Gus wasn’t our starting goalie we might be a bubble team at this date, with some of the injuries we’ve accumulated.
Hynes already should be looked at as a Adams candidate but if they get through these injuries and stay top 3 in the central he should basically be a heavy lock
Dallas has played well recently, but Seguin out for the season while Robo and Johnston are still struggling in the Pavelski vacuum definitely warrants ok-at-best in the vibes category. We're all waiting for the trade deadline.
I'm hoping Dallas can make a deal before prices go up at the deadline
As a Sens fan, I was angry several years ago. I’m now utterly desperate.
With the Jackets, Im definitely in the concerned column. BUT Im also happy we are doing well enough that i can even have enough expectations of the team to BE concerned. Its a strange feeling.
Sorry but Pittsburgh is still panicking, and they should be. They are an awful team, and we aren’t fooled by a modest 4 game winning streak. Even one of those games we blew a 3 goal lead, and one of them we almost blew a 5-1 lead. The defense is terrible, might be the worst penguins defense core I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, and both goalies are over 3.00 GAA and under .900 sv%. That’s just absurdly bad.
If you've been watching the sharks and are a fan of hockey, even if you root for another team, it's hard not to jump on that bandwagon right now. They're fun to watch.
As a ducks fan, I would have probably put them one row down to Panic. Im just not convinced we’ve made a huge stride as apposed to last year. Our offense still feels weak, and we don’t have a clear Star. It just seems very boring, despite the young talent we have. We don’t have that one player who everyone is excited about and is making great plays every game.
We are facing two playoff teams back to back, so goodbye to .500. That, and no news on trades despite having over 20 mil in cap space is frustrating. It feels like no one wants to come here.
Ek is week to week. Wild fans are entering the panic zone
Brodin, Zucc, Ek all weeks out. No way we’re on the top of this chart. Tier 2 or 3 easily
“Panic, the lost stage of grief” by Shannon Skanes
RE: Nashville~~~ trying to remember the last time any team broke the bank with contracts to high-value free agents and it actually worked out.. It's one thing to add a superstar in the offseason but spending dumptruck loads of money on several of them almost never works out. Hard to buy chemistry, as they say.
Closest would be St Louis in 2018, though the names were not as high profile. But that’s the reason when all the experts were picking Nashville I was a doubter. Even if you pick all the right players, it takes awhile to figure out where they will fit on your team. And that’s even ignoring that their pickups were older in an NHL that is constantly getting younger and faster
Kind of reminds me of the Rangers deadline a couple years back when they added Kane and nobody gelled
@@woodsie22 Agree, Predicted Nashville, in this forum, would be a " Bust " & they are.
Took a lot of heat with my post, however one cannot expect superstar results from aging veterans.
With Vancouver. I'm very happy. Considering all the injuries and all the players that have been in and out of the lineup, they've been able to stay afloat and stay in the hunt. DeBrusk has found his game. Pettersson is playing very well, and Quinn Hughes is doing well.
The Scott Wedgewood era has arrived in Denver.
I hope so, when Georgie is in net, it could be 4 goals on five shots or 1 goal on 28 shots. He is the most inconsistent goalie in the league and I might need a new liver if he stays as the starter.
@ Vézina or AHL
@@CamGoldberg3796 He's never close to Vezina. His wins are often the result of the Avs scoring 4+ goals. This season, he is actually negative on saves over expected.
I think the Avs save % is 31st in the league. JA may have potential, but he also tends to give up early goals, and often does not stop the bleeding if he goes in in relief of Georgia. That is the same in reverse, too.
Last night at least, Wedgewood came in cold, barely having time to introduce himself to the team after the trade, and shut the door for the rest of the game. You could see the Avs skaters gain confidence as the game progressed.
@timdowney6721 No. Its either Georgie plays like a Vezina candidate or like an AHL goalie. There's no in between
Haha!! 😂
With the expectations Nashville had coming into this season I'd put them in anger/panic. Otherwise good board 👍.
SHARKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So. Avs need a goalie that is good enough. The goalie doesn't have to be lights out. Just good enough. Avs won with Kuemper, who's not exactly a lights out goalie. He was just good enough.
And for Avs fans wanting Gibson, not gonna happen. He has a no trade clause and he's making 6.4 this season. Avs can't afford it and he has to approve the trade anyway
Definitely know some fans that panicking a little as a Chicago fan, but as you said we were not expecting anything this season realistically. We wanted to be better than last year and have a better team which I think we did not by like 300% but we have improved and are still rebuilding
I'm a Leafs' fan, who's overall happy. The Leafs have been a hearty hockey team, nothing glamorous playing a lunch pail gang style. If they keep working, keep getting wins, and bring this throughout to the playoffs, I'm happy.
I personally would've put the Isles in the Anger category. Lou's legendary passivity has singlehandedly put that team in the doldrums, and the fact that there's been zero indication that he's going anywhere has been drawing no small amount of ire from the Isles fanbase. The moves that need to be made simply aren't because Lou refuses to pull the trigger, and as long as he remains sitting in the GM seat, I don't see that team going anywhere.
With the Avs, I feel like they've been playing every first period with an empty net. And it's hard to be a defenseman when you don't feel your gt is solid back there.
Feeling is kinda mutual. Georgie doesn't trust the defense and he tries to hard.
@@soulknife20and vice versa. the second he is pulled they play a different game
yeah man like im getting frustrated with the ”bad d” argument. 5v5 theyre a top10 team in scoring chance%
@@Nathanielhiggerson66Yeah. It's a vicious circle.
@Nathanielhiggerson66 Overall yeah. But watching the games, they have the worst lapses at the wrong time.
Jets fans be like ✈️🔥☠️
_Teams in PANIC or ANGER:_
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I think you could make the argument that panic is the first stage of grief,
it just passes to denial so quickly that it isn't counted or gets counted as part of denial.
Colorado is the Panickiest of all panic right now
Another dad on my kid's bantam is is a huge Red Wing fan. Angry is a perfect spot for them. He is so flippin angry about Detroit right now. As a Sharks' fan, I just get a double-delight seeing the kids play well and seeing him rage!
I thought that Nashville would be playing better than this, considering what they added in the off-season.
Coming from a Blackhawks fan, I can say confidently that there is a lot of panic from the fan base. Sure we weren’t necessarily expected to be a playoff team, but at this point with all of the moves we made during the offseason, there was certainly an expectation for the team to take that next step forward. And they’ve showed it in a lot of games, including their losses this season that they can hang with some of the better teams in the NHL. And for them to be in last place in the overall standings right now?There’s definitely panic for the future of this organization.
As a Chicago fan, I basically agree with Shannon. With so many of our prospects playing in Rockford right now, it's hard to be too concerned. I just want Richardson to stick with a top line so Bedard can get comfortable with his linemates.
I'm a Bruins fan and watched tonight. The Blackhawks didn't win, but I saw a lot of quality play from them. Their defense corps looks like a thin spot, but overall there seems to be great potential for this team. Hang in there :-)
In the times of matchfixing in Polish football (a.k.a. "soccer") we had a coach here, who tasked with saving a particuarly weak team, used to say: "there's nothing to train here, we gotta make some calls" - meaning: I will call my contacts and see if we can fix some results. Seeing that little red phone in the bottom row always makes me crack a smile.
Find myself overly distracted with a desire to find that Mythbusters Bull in a china shop clip.
i still think it's early enough in the season and considering they were a playoff team last year and they sort of upgraded over the off season smashville should be more in the anger category for attempting to buy chemistry which never works in hockey
I will say the mood in Philadelphia is pretty good right now
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. They mopped the floor with us. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
With the atlantic, is it that Buffalo, Ottawa, Detroit and Montreal aren't getting any better, or is it that Florida, Tampa, Toronto and to a lesser degree Boston get better every year as "destination" clubs?
as a bruins fan, not Boston. You want hard playoffs, its a decent place (assuming they make it, tho im still skeptical) you want a tittle tho? go somewhere else, Bruins dont win championships.
Wings fan here, yeah lots of anger for sure but slipping into apathy. Until they start winning Little Caesars Arena isn’t getting any more of my money.
Hey! Don't panic! Love the sweater Shannon! Where'd you pick that up? I might have to grab one for myself. I love Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
The Red Wings are absolutely anger inducing right now. I've never seen a team of theirs with potential be so gutless night after night. Yzerman is looking more and more like a fraud.
Thanks for the video! Mostly good but I think the Pens might be more concerned because even the four wins doesn't have them in contention. We'll see if you drop them down in a couple of weeks.
The Islanders are treading water until Barzal, Duclair and Pelech are back
I'll tell you that as a sens fan, I'm fucking livid that Korpisalo and Ullmark freaky-fridayed as soon as the trade went through... Ottawa is where goalies come to die!
as a bruins fan who has watched korpi go from hot garbage to pretty decent/good at points, is that more on the goalie coaching? Feels like lots of goalies who came to boston in recent years have performed quite well, and when they leave, sometimes seem to take a step back. I wont speak for the sens since i dont follow them enough to have an opinion, but getting Ullmark i feel should have made them better and....they just arent. Is it fully on Ullmark, or is there something else in play?
I might put the Caps in the second row. They have been winning and they are better than last year. However, Ovi is out and while he has started skating, this is the most severe injury of his career. I think the goaltending has been pretty good, though not including the San Jose game, they have been allowing more goals as a team than I'd like to see. Maybe some anger with no Capital being selected for the 4 Nations Face-Off. They're leading the Metro for crying out loud!!
Flames ahead of the oilers in the standings enough to make me happy lol
@@generalimlerith8356 as a Panthers fan, me too
That's how oil is supposed to burn!
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Go Flames Go!
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Definitely concerned for Carolina. Losing against the panthers and then being dominated by the kraken is not a good look. Things could be worse though. Coach rod didn’t seem too happy.
I would consider bargaining to be the panic aspect in the stages of grief
You're NOT old. From a 77.
i would put flyers in happy because they have played well 😄
As a Flames fan, I'm happy. No one expected them to do anything this year and all I wanted was to see them be competitive. Even if they do fall off a cliff, we weren't supposed to be good this season anyway.
Zero panic in Carolina and it's really the OK type of "concern" where you always know injuries are possible and playoff spots have to be clinched and never taken for granted. If goalie interference didn't include goalies going outside the crease to shove players, the Canes win that game. Even going .500 for the next two months is fine for Carolina with everything being about how Andersen does on the return.
As an islanders fan for god sake please tank and give me Hagens and Eiserman on the same team
As an Isles fan, I'm definitely in anger mode but never in waiting for a phone call mode. I have seen this team turn it around before and we are close to getting Barzal, Duclair, and Pelech back. If we can weather the storm for a little longer, look out.
I think the main question for the Islanders this year is: Is Cole Eiserman for real or is he Bellows & Wahlstrom chapter 3. If he's the real deal, and I hear he's doing pretty good in the NCAA, there's hope for the future. Does he play one more year in college or does he come up next year?
@@RRaquello Give him one more year. He will be a good one.
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
The Canes were worse than awful against the Kraken but a correct call on goalie interference and the final score is probably 4-2 Carolina.
@ precisely. Goaltending is always a major concern with this team it seems
Chicago is getting annoyed. They'll blow out Dallas 6-2, but then blow 2 goal leads and lose to Philly and Minnesota and blow 2-1 leads against San Jose and Anaheim, all those leads going into the 3rd period.
I know this team isn't playoff worthy but come on they should be closer to .500 then they are now with this lineup.
I will add an asterisk as 2024 overall for Chicago sports fans has been lets just say.... a bit rough
Panic Index video.. Classic choice, wearing THG Hat & H2G2 jersey.
Just need a small NHL logo towel over the shoulder. (one of the small ones players wipe their visors with would work nicely.)
Thank you.
im waiting for chicago draft pick but at this point that will probs be blacked out too
LGW!!!! LETS GO WILD!!!!
I can't get over how bad this season has been for the Preds. They had looked to be one of the most improved teams and looked like they were going to be a beast come playoff time. Still could, but that ship is ready to leave port. Another team that befuddles me is the Rangers and I have to wonder if part of that is the concern that they might lose Shesterkin. And then the question becomes just how much money does it take to get him to sign and if you pay it are you going to ruin the entire team? Is it worth it? Who knows. One last team to mention here is Colorado. Good grief they have goalie miseries, for sure. I am a Stars fan, but to be honest, it would be a miserable shame to waste years with the talent they have because you can't find an adequate goalie. They don't need a Vezina Trophy winner, they need a good consistent NHL goalie with about a .915 save percentage.
as a leafs fan, the leafs definitely are not panicking. seems like berube lit a fire under their ass, well that and it being a contract year for tavares and marner, they're playing great.
The Flyers should always be in the concerned slot, no matter how well they're doing. Sincerely, a cautiously optimistic Flyers fan with more cautiousness than optimism...
the phone represents teams like Buffalo who just phone it in.....
I understand the desire to have Chicago in the East, even if I can't find a realignment to do that that makes sense. However, no matter how you align the conferences, they will only be in one division.
With the mindset of this finally being the drop off year for Boston, they haven’t been doing too bad minus a couple rough games. Still like their cores chance to turn it around
I'm on board with the Penguins placement. For one, pre christmas winstreaks are a Pens tradition and also... I think most Pens fans have kind of adjusted their expectations at this point. See where it goes this year, maybe kick the Rangers out of a playoff spot which would be very funny, maybe even make the playoffs, or not, then tank next year. It's all good =)
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Have The 'Nucks play the five-game home stand in the Rink on Renfrew! It can't possibly make things any worse!
I have mild concern for Minnesota. There are some significant injuries piling up. But that said the underachievers are overachieving this year. It's still hard for me to believe that the team is as good as their record. Next year may be bonkers for the Wild!
@TheHockeyGuy Shannon, I agree with almost everything you posted for you panic index. Only ones I'm wavering on not are the Kings (overachieving) and Avalanche (have the horses to improve in the standings)... 1000% agreement are where you put the Rangers. If they are not in panic mode, when will they? I say if they lose at least 2 of the next 3 games. I was already saying through the last 4 games through Monday's embarrassing loss to the Devils, still nothing has been done yet. Fan frustration will boil over if the Rangers drop ALL of their upcoming games to the Penguins, Kraken and Blackhawks. Sure is possible. And IF it does, it will get really really ugly. Maybe benchings, Chris Drury losing his job or Peter Laviolette losing his. I don't support a coaching change.
Honestly feels like the kings have been underachieving standings wise considering how many games they’ve lost against bottom feeder teams. They seem to play very well against top tier teams which is good
The Pacific is doing well, who knew ?!...
I would say concerned for Dallas losing Seguin for 4-6 months
Thoughts...WPG. I think they are hitting a slide similar to what VGK did last year after an unsustainable start. The Jets don't have any obvious problems, so I think they'll pick it back up soon...On the other hand...CAR... 😒 ...What is so frustrating is that, while they seem to always have an embarrassment of riches on the front line, and often the back as well, they have never - NEVER - invested in top shelf goaltending. I like Kochetkov, but he's still a young guy. He needs to learn behind somebody more polished, and Andersen (when he's available) to me is not that guy...LAK. Man, whatever the Kings did after that sputtering start worked. Solid everywhere now...SJS. I was saying earlier in the season that once they got Celebrini chemically involved in the offense that it would, more than anything, change the way opponents' defenses play the Sharks - opening up far more holes at the net. The same way McDavid effs with defenses, Celebrini does the same. He'll be a fountain of assists going forward, and he has complimentary parts around him as well...I am done...
Great channel. Go Sharks!
What an awesome Jersey!
The Hawks in the thumbnail?
Panic has become resignation in Chicago.
As a Wild fan. I’m enjoying the moment but there is a little bit of panic as it’s minnesota sports. it has to come crashing down right? Add the presidency trophy curse and we have to be swept in the first round. Whatever. I’ll enjoy it while I can.
Philip Tomasino, nuff said
If the Sharks continue performing above expected, there is no reason to move them from the top row. That being said, If they go on a long losing streak and start getting blown out....It's anger.
Going to the game tomorrow in Tampa. I have high hopes for a win/close defeat. I went last year and expected nothing and came away with a win in OT.
Avalanche after coming back vs the Sabers down 4-0 should not be panicking, nor below Buffalo. Even with the proposed goalie situation I would swap those 2 teams places at minimum.
Carolina should be panicking.
Me as a penguins fan I`m up to Homer Simpson and Le Grill! Why must I fail at every attempt of defence ;)
Agree with San Jose, we didn't expect anything this season but it's going better than expected and gives us a great look at what kind of future we might have.
I was discussing Nashville at a Waffle House with one of their fans in the preseason. They were very concerned about their team but I couldn't believe it would be that bad. She was dead on.
The Avs honestly need to consider getting rid of Landy, his cap hit is costing the team on not being able to get a new goalie.
Where? And how? Have you seen his contract?
@@defaultuser1447And if he retires, the Avs are still on the hook for his contract. At least with him on LTIR, the Avs can use the money
@@defaultuser1447Can't. Unless they buy it out. Otherwise, the Avs are stuck with it. At least on LTIR, the Avs can use the money
@@soulknife20 Woo, a buyout. At his age, 2/3 of salary for four years, and the deferred signing bonus.
THG wears metal pants confirmed
As a ducks fan I feel like they should be in the same tier as Seattle
Bruins fan checking in to say I'm angry every time Pasta bobbles the puck. And that's a lot.
At least he's doing more than the entire first line of the jets recently, their last 7 games. Now that's frustrating. It's not the only reason they're struggling right now but that line sure as hell ain't helping them anything
I think most ducks fans are concerned. All I see in the Reddit and on social media are people overreacting to behind the scene stuff, line changes, and wanting Cronin to be fired desperately
Thing with Ducks fans is when they are winning the coach is the best coach ever and when they lose he's the worst ever. Very hot and cold fanbase. I know because that's me.
Panthers need a better Top 4 D-man. Adam Boqvist and Schmidt aren't exactly OEL and Montour replacements. I may be wrong, but do not be surprised if the Panthers take a D-man during the trade deadline, and maybe even a forward like Tarasenko.
Speaking as a Columbus fan, given everything surroinding it I don't think the Calgarybgame should count. You're not wrong about their competing records, though, and I am concerned.
Too much optimism with Pittsburgh. It's just been a steady decline for the past five years. Why would it suddenly completely reverse and 180 from lottery likely's to playoff team