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1. Arriving a little late is to the hosts' advantage. It then gives the hosts time to work out the details. There is even a saying: "Coming too early is worse than coming late". Because someone might still be busy with other guests and not have time for us. And this puts the host in an awkward position. We should remember that we are meeting people. And time is not a brick that can be crushed. It's more like a rubber band that can be stretched a bit. Besides, we are also giving the guests themselves time to prepare and arrive. After all, they too may encounter various obstacles on their way. Therefore, the meeting time should not be a point in time, but rather a stretch to give yourself and others a margin. 2. Drinking alcohol. On the one hand, there is freedom of action. As long as one does not harm others, one can do whatever one likes. But after drinking alcohol you get, as we say in Polish: "a monkey's mind". That is to say, we go crazy. We start hitting on others, causing trouble, damaging public property. And this is already punishable. That's why there is a ban on drinking in public spaces. Even hiding alcohol in a paper or plastic bag is prosecuted by the law enforcement if they spot us. Even simply drinking beer. In Poland, the law is strict in this case. There are rules in Poland: Zastaw się, a postaw się. That is: even if you are poor, sacrifice what you have, but show up in front of your guests to make them happy. For a Pole, it is a dishonour to show the poor part of your life in front of others. Other sayings are: "Guest at home, God at home". That is to say, when we host someone, we show respect to God through a wanderer. Or, 'What's in a rich house, is in counsel'. Which means that even if you are poor, treat your guest with the best chattels you can afford. #5 Polish is not the most difficult language in the world. It is only the FIFTH most difficult language. If you haven't heard Chinglish with its so-called Chiskim tone accent, then Polish will seem as simple as an Ikea stool. English, on the other hand, is difficult because it has 32 tenses (although this is a problem for linguists, philosophers and everyday bread eaters alike). Well, and it begs the question: for what and why? As for stepping into someone else's shoes.... It depends on the hosts. There are those who strictly adhere to this as if it were a promise, and there are those who will not even let you take off your shoes and frolic on the floor with your socks, or throw your slippers/loafers/boots at you - the regional term for "slippers". ;) And in this particular episode, when the girl says she goes barefoot at home, she's just plain fucking stupid! Maybe in her family. But most well-behaved Poles won't even let you take your shoes off. For a guest in the house, God in the house. It is foolish to think that you will bring dirt into the flat. At least with the people I know, they don't want you to get your socks dirty, for example when the hosts have a pet at home that sheds hair. Number 7: It depends on the stakeholders themselves. I will write as follows: On the subject of religion and politics, it is best not to talk about it in Poland even between family members. According to the saying: "Where are two Poles there are three opinions." These are very sensitive topics, so if you don't know the opinions of others on a given subject, sometimes even the topic of the weather can be the beginning of an argument. ;) This is how Poles are. To drink and to fight. :D And when drunk, "Vodka for a Pole is like a spark on a powder keg."
The first thing is bullshit, maybe 50% of ppl that i know do something like that, and it is not bc of some rules, they are just too late but nobody cares too mutch. im 28.
Exactly! I get annoyed when I invite someone, I make the preparations, and the guests don't show up on time, and I sit, wait, the food gets cold, etc. It's the first time I hear that it's impolite in our culture to arrive on time 🙃
I absolutely disagree with point 1. As a Pole, I have never encountered a situation where someone was offended because of the punctual arrival. It's a myth, there's nothing like it in Poland.
I agree 100%, if I invite someone for 8pm I expect them at 8pm max 8:05, if they wont call that they'll be late due to unexpected event or something I'm angey as fuck. Those fuckers from easy polish are fucking liers.
About point 1 - its not that you must be late, its that you should not come early. Lets say you have meeting with your friend at his place at 18, so your window for being "on time" is from 18 to 18:10/18:15 depending on host and occasion. But if you are showing up at lets say 17:50 your friend would propably still be preparing
As a Pole, I will say that point 1 (being late) is not true. As for point 7, i.e. the Pope, Polish society is very divided on this matter. For some, the pope is a saint, while others make fun of him. The other points are true.
It depends which areas of the country,for friends of mine even 2hours late is not late.This is North east side of Poland.I was very surprised.,but mainly is on time.❤
No, it’s depend where are you from. I suppose in Poznan can be like that but in Warsaw can be rude come exactly on time. 15 minutes late it’s exactly what is expected.
But does making fun of the Pope come off differently when a foreigner does it? As an American there are certain things I HATE when foreigners make fun of us for them, so personally I’d err on the side of politeness in another country and be careful what controversial things I do or don’t wade into.
I'm Australian and never been to Europe. I am really enjoying your Polish videos. It's a country I've obviously heard of but it's not one I know anything about. Reading their replies to various videos has also been interesting and they seem quite friendly.
The thing with asking about taking your shoes off is people will very often tell you that you don’t have to because they don’t want to discomfort you in case you have like a hole in your sock or smelly feet. As a general rule I’d say take your shoes off if: 1. It’s winter 2. It was raining or muddy outside 3. You’re asked to Don’t take them off if: 1. Your host walked in with you and didn’t take theirs off 2. Host told you you don’t have to but I dunno it’s hot and you’re sweaty or sth. 3. For women: you have some fancy pantyhose you don’t want to walk in barefoot. 4. Other guests are walking in shoes It’s kinda like when Chinese people are inviting you to their house for dinner. You gotta feel it out if their just being polite or actually mean it. Oh and regarding punctuality it depends on the type of meeting. If you invite multiple people to your house for like a party or something it’s better to come 15min late or even an hour. In most other cases you should be on time, so in cases like: meeting in caffe, meeting for any particular purpose like studying together or sth. Also depends how many people are coming. If it’s 1 on 1 meeting it’s very rude to be late. If it’s a group thing probably nobody will care. Regarding the Pope 😂, depends what crowd your around. Some people really love to take a piss at him. The amount of almost idolatrous cult around him created sort of social distaste to his person in many people. Although mostly distaste to the cult not to his person. So many younger people will offer crack jokes of the darker variety about his likes, dislikes, life and death and alleged involvement in covering up pedophilia. Although it’s more of a closed meeting or internet phenomena. Kinda like when Queen died some Irish people weren’t too picky about their reaction.
Jeżeli chodzi o Jana Pawła 2 dużo o nim się mówi ale raczej w kontekście polityki .Gdyby lewica w Polsce nie miała w jednym z zadań zniszczenie katolicyzmu w Polsce raczej by się dużo nie mówiło o Janie Pawle 2 . I żeby nie było to każdy wie że kościół w Polsce jest powiązany z prawicową polityką . I dla tego jest ta zadyma.
@@zhangzy123 nie wiem za bardzo co to ma wspólnego z lewicą bo jak ja chodziłem do gimnazjum i żartowaliśmy z papieża to wszyscy byliśmy korwinistami. Ludzie z lewicy czy wtedy to SLD albo od Palikota raczej patrzyli się na to z politowaniem albo kompletnie ich to nie obchodziło.
@@xxXXDrDreXXxx Może i wtedy tak było. Tylko że dzisiaj mamy inne czasy. Każdy także zdaje sobie sprawę dla jakich ugrupowań politycznych pracują określone media i jaki mają przekaz . .Wypowiedzi polityków lewicowych także są jednoznaczne.
In Poland, at universities there is a custom called "academic quarter", which means that a student, but also a lecturer, is allowed to be late by 15 minutes. Apparently, the custom has also penetrated into everyday life :)
@@aonodensetsu Well... it depends. I've heard of lecturers who forbade those who were late to enter the room. When I was at the university, several lecturers were angry that people were late, but never kicked off anybody. And one of them had a rule that if someone was very late, he would ask them about the subjects and if you couldn't answer the questions, it could result in the lack of extra points in the exam.
Polish is not difficult 😉 For example : English: Two, second Polish: dwa, dwie, dwoje, dwóm, dwóch, dwojgu, drugi, druga, drudzy, drugim, drugiemu, drugiej, druga, drugim, drugiego, drugie, dwójki, dwójką, dwaj, dwiema, dwoma... And that's just one word... Have a nice learning
@@RobReacts1 you said that, in english you have a word with a diffrend meaning, same as we. For example, in english if say glass, you can mean a material or kind of dish. In polish we have 'zamek', which mean castle or lock. If ask why 'zamek' in polish means that, propably, becouse it protects something or somebody :)
As a Pole I always want to take my shoes off and only don't do that if my host tell me not to. And sometimes only if he tell it twice. It is a good habit. If you ask as you suggest then host must tell you to do it what is rude as guests should't need to do anything. By asking "do I need to take my shoes off?" you tell your host that you would rather not to do that.
#1 - It's no true. It isn't our polish habit, it depends on one's people character. #2 - True, but not always. Low is against drinking alkohol in public spaces, but there are some exception. Ask locals. Eg. In the park you can't drink, but on nearby university campus area, you can (because the university authorities gave permission). #7 - It is better to not touch such subjects as: religion, politics. You can talk to many people about these topics, even if you have a different opinion. But sometimes you can come across a person who suddenly goes into extreme emotions and starts yelling at you and attacking you. It is safer to avoid politics, religion (and JP II).
7:10 True, if we're going on a trip, Grandma ALWAYS brings like a ton of food and expect us to eat it all and not go out anywhere in the city. But also remember, if a Polish grandma is offering you food, TAKE IT. It WILL be good.
as an young Pole (still in high school) the thing about us not having confidence to speak English is for many just the concern that even though we can understand it and read it, we might not be the best at pronunciation, I for example try to speak English when I'm alone, but really I don't think that's helping me much and I'd really love to have someone else (just an online friend who I could speak with to learn) but I just don't and I'm not sure hot go get a person like that, if I had my own apartment I could just get a roommate with lowered price for teaching me, but i'm not and so I'll probably be scared to speak in English for a long time oh and about taking your shoes off in someone's house, its kind of gentleman rule not to force someone into taking their shoes off, so even if we say you don't need to its like when in japan you shouldn't say if you don't like food someone made for you, its impolite and we rather clean our house than have our guests unhappy
I completely disagree with point 1. Nobody likes latecomers. You make an appointment for a specific time, you are for a specific time. You can be there 5 minutes earlier and no later than 15 minutes. These 15 minutes are practically learned in school. This is the so-called academic quarter. Up to 15 minutes you don't have to explain yourself for being late. If we know that we will be late, it is better to inform about it. (google translate😉)
You are 100% right about #1, I don't know why, or who forced those people to tell such bullshit but if you're too soon it's uncomfortable for the host. If you are late it's rude (unless its the party with a lot of other people then nobody bother). What a bullshit, and they are poles! WTF ?!
1:20 It isn't universally true everyware in Poland. Sometimes you can be late for 15 minutes but if it is more that can inconvenience the hosts. Especially if they are preparing hot food and microwave isn't in every household. :)
When it comes to being on time Poland may be confusing, because there are situations where you definitely need to be on time or even 5 minutes earlier, situations where you should be on time but with a 15 minutes emergency buffer, and those where it's polite to be 15 minutes late.
TIME is treated in different cultures in a different way (but I do agree with you, I hate people being late, too!). E.g. In Mexico you should be even up to 3 hours "late" not to offend the hosts. I had culture difference workshops at my Cross-Culture Psychology Studies and the Japanese came on time, or just a few seconds before, the Poles 15 min late and the Mexicans 1-3 hours late. There is a joke about it: if you organize a meeting at 5, tell the Germans it's at 5, the Poles it's at 4.45 and the Mexicans/Spanish/Greeks and so on, that the meeting is at 3. This way everybody will be at 5 sharp.
Well, a lot of people are saying stuff regarding point 1. I do that, my friends do that, my family does it. It's not really offensive, but more of a good gesture towards people who know that and understand that gesture. If you are meeting with someone and it's very formal, or that person really cares for showing up on time, then don't come late. Coming in early is also a case of "it depends". But yeah, the 15 minutes is usually, in most cases not a big deal, and it's definitely not offensive to show up on time, or 15 minutes early or late in your private life usually. About the shoes... well... you never tell your guest to take off their shoes because it's considered impolite and a symbol of a bad host. You are nearly always expected to take off your shoes. That's the tradition. But, there are people who are more upfront, and will tell you (there are often also some cues as to what you should do). I recommend going by the rule, that if the flat/home looks clean, then you do take off the shoes regardless of anything.
Hey if you want to learn the Polish language a good rule of thumb to keep in mind that makes you sound really authentic is to always put emphasis on the second syllable!
Actually, in Polish language emphasis (accent) is on the second last syllable😊 If a word has only two syllables then this will make emphasis fall on the first syllable. 😊
Point 6 is incorrect, it actually depends on one's background and upbringing. In the majority of cases, it may be true because a person or their parents come from, for example, a rural area where footwear is changed after working in the fields or barn. However, when dealing with individuals with higher standards of upbringing, removing shoes may be perceived as a faux pas and a sign of lack of manners. Additionally, doormats are placed in front of the entrance to the house for guests to wipe their shoes on them. It can be particularly poorly perceived during formal gatherings, such as an invitation to a formal dinner, birthday, name day, or holidays. Exceptions may apply in situations where we have known a person for a very long time and are in the company of close friends. The first point is also incorrect. A significant portion of Poles is sensitive when it comes to punctuality and prepares, for example, a meal for guests at a specific time. Arriving later may mean that you will be eating reheated food. In the case of a larger number of people, your lateness can disrupt the meeting's plans, which may be perceived as an attempt to draw attention to yourself. A guest who is late can also be seen as someone treating others condescendingly because they are unable to adjust their plans to a previously arranged meeting.
14:40 to jest sarkazm. jesli przychodzisz, w gości to zalozenie od gospodarzy jest takie, ze zdejmiesz buty mimo, ze zostalo powiedziane, ze nie trzeba.
I absolutely disagree with point 6 (shoes off). I live in Warsaw and believe me or not, I never ever took my shoes off when I entered somebody's else flat/house. YMMV 🙂
I have a daughter that is consistently late. We always tell her a time which is 1/2 hour early. It generally works. As far as hard languages go I would say Japanese is right up there. If you don't want to read or write it, then it's a lot easier. They have 3 written languages, Kanji, Katakana and Hiragana, and knowing when to use each one, as they would all come together in any written article. Plus they have many different ways in which they count things. Long things are different to round thing, vegetables and fruit get counted differently. I think it's either 6 or 8 different counting systems.
#1 - if you go to somebody's home, yes, come a little bit later. If you have invitation to somebody's private home in Poland for a specific time, it simply means "come not earlier than..., arrive within next 15 minutes, 30 minutes for longer visits". This generally applies only to private visits in somebody's home. #2 - I have friends in London, and between them, a Polish women born in the UK, the daughter of a Polish fighter pilot who fought in the Battle of Britain. She was always saying that she became ashamed of being a Pole since she started to notice new Polish immigrants drinking in London's parks, sometimes even at 6 am. #6 - because she was just polite. #7 - it's not about religion, it is about values. There was the entire so-called JP2 generation - young people that, for their whole life since they were born, JP2 has always been there. Imagine a series of gatherings during each of his visits to Poland, and each of them was physically bringing together 1 million or more people. I don't understand your outrage that you had to wait longer in the airport because JP2 flight. John Paul II was head of state - Vatican. Can you imagine that you don't have to wait if King Charles III or President Biden flee out same time as you from the same airport? You have also reacted to the IPN's video "The Unconquered." You may remember when Sean Bean said: "The pope gives us strength." There is something behind it.
Longtime resident... 1. being a bit late (15 to 20 minutes is okay but more than that... no) maybe that's an old Warsaw thing (I live elsewhere) 2. if you don't show off or get plastered no one will care 3. trying to politely turn down food or drink..... not easy.... you will be held down like a goose and force fed if need be.... 4. the language is absolutely necessary for longterm residents (unless you want to stay in a foreigner ghetto) 5. people are weirdly insistent about that, as a linguist I gave up trying 6. I never wore shoes at home in the US so no problem for me, if it's a very short visit (5 minutes or so) then you don't need to take off shoes but if you're gonna sit down, yeah take them off. 7. very true
My sister and brother in law were so consistently late to celebrations we made bets on how late they'd be, I won $5 one Christmas for 45 minutes late! 🤣😂
The thing with telling someone not to take off their shoes when they ask, from my perspective, is about being polite and make sure someone is comfortable. Even at a cost of our own comfortability
The first point is simply not true. Maybe it depends on the region? I think it's best to be on time or just a little late. But being early sounds like a bad idea and a faux pas.
Although I wouldn’t consider number 1 a general rule, I have yet to meet someone who’s 100% prepared for a visit on time, especially if it’s not just popping by for a coffee but a long overdue visit which ends up being a homemade dinner consisting of five dishes and a dessert. You’re by no means expected to be late but depending on the occasion being slightly late often comes as a lifesaver for the host ;) No one is going to be annoyed by a 15 minute lateness, especially if you announce it on an half an hour’s notice 👍🏾
I'm Polish, I'm lazy and I must admit I always hope for people to be late. I prepare meals to be ready when I want them to be ready, I'm OK when you're on time, I'm happy when you're late, I'm very agitated when you're early. 20 years in England but I do think late is good. :) - reading the comment below I had to do a smiley face. Be late rather than early. If you had to travel and arrived early have a cigarette or play a game on your phone for 15 minutes :)
Same here, being late an hour would be rude, but 10-15 minutes is fine. Important - this is for private meetings only and is not acceptable on an official, business level.
Hi, I think they got certain things wrong a bit. When sb tells you that they expect you to be in their place at 7 pm, it means you should be on time, at 7. Not earlier, not later, but at 7. I'm Polish and I've never heard of such a thing that you should come later than you agreed on... That's so weird. So, you're 100% right, you should be on time. If sb is not prepared by 7 pm, it's their fault and not yours. As far as taking off your shoes when you enter sb's home is concerned, then yes, you ALWAYS take off your shoes. I know, it's weird when they tell you not to do that, but they simply want to be polite... If it is a flat and you see it's really clean, the more reasons you have to actually take your shoes off. The only situation in which you'd not do that is if for example, you were in a village and a person tells you that the floor is not that clean, it's really cold and you'd just get sick, then yes, don't take off your shoes. However, if a person doesn't give you more reasons why you should keep your shoes on, then take them off. You show good manners that way and you show that you're also polite 😉 And, yes, be ready - Polish people do like feeding you with food they prepared. Especially, grannies... Young people probably won't do that. Also, if you want to kinda make sure you are not fed in your "friend's" place, then say straight away that you want to come for tea/coffee and AFTER DINNER. It's completely fine. I do say that a lot myself 🙈 I simply don't eat everything and hate being in situations when there's stuff on the table I don't want to eat but have to simply to be polite. Then, obviously, I don't eat anything and... well... you can image how horrible it feels. So, better just say you won't come for dinner but for tea or coffee 😇 As to the language... Well, Polish people realise that their language is extremely difficult, BUT, not for everyone. We know that it is much simpler to learn for people coming from Eastern Europe (and it makes us happy!). Our languages belong to the same family and so, lots of words and phrases are the same or similar. However, we know how tough it can be for people from other parts of the world. But, we don't boast with that so much. It's also not something to be proud of...
14:40 - jeszcze nie wiedziałem lepszego zderzenia kultur jak tutaj i twoja reakcja. To też może być kwestią osobowości niż kultury z innych krajów. On był uprzejmy bo zapytał a ona była uprzejma bo pozwoliła mu w nich zostać mimo że jej się to nie podoba. Nie chciała robić mu kłopotu. Ale to zależy od człowieka. Gdyby mnie ktoś zapytał czy ściągnąć buty to zrobiłbym taką minę że zorientowałby się aby je zdjąć. Gdyby ktoś nie zapytał i wszedł do mojego mieszkania w butach to (powiedzmy że to kumpel) to bym krzyknął i żartobliwie dał do zrozumienia że zaraz zginie jeśli pobrudzi mi podłogę. -------------- Wiesz, część z tych przykładów nie możesz brać dosłownie mimo że tak są przedstawiane - dosłownie. Np: przychodzenie 15 minut po wyznaczonym terminie jest bardzo specyficzną rzeczą. Wynika to z tego chyba że źle zdanie zostało sformułowane. Gdyby napisali "przyjdź około godziny 17" to wtedy nie byłoby problemu. Gdy umawiasz się na spotkanie u kogoś to podajesz często mniej konkretną godzinę np 17 i nie przychodzisz idealnie o tej godzinie tylko troszkę później. Wtedy gospodarz się przygotowuje na twoje przybycie i robi różne rzeczy. I nawet nie ma się czym przejmować jeśli gość przyjdzie a ty nadal coś przygotowujesz. Zaraz to zostanie przyrządzone a wy sobie możecie porozmawiać. A w tym wideo zostało to tak przedstawione jakby spotkanie ze znajomym było jak rozmowa o pracę z szefem/rekruterem. Jak to się u nas mawia "weź to z przymrużeniem oka" czyli odrobiną soli chyba w anglojęzycznych krajach się mówi. PS: matka kiedyś chciała zabić (przesadzam) fachowca który wszedł do domu. Tak zwani fachowcy po których się dzwoni np: hydraulik, etc zwykle przychodzą z nie ściągają butów. Niezależnie czy są mocno ubłocone czy padał deszcz. Oni mają to gdzieś. Sam chciałem kiedyś kopnąć w dupę takiego fachowca bo to chamskie zachowanie. I jeszcze przyjechał godzine po czasie. To podwójne przelanie czary goryczy. No i uważaj w polsce na tych fachowców. Dużo kasy wezmą i nie ma gwarancji czy coś naprawią. Niektórzy ludzie są okropni. A co do butów jeszcze to gdy przyjdziesz do mojego dziadka to jest specjalne wydzielone miejsce na buty i on w szafie ma chyba 20 par różnych kapci. Do wyboru do koloru. A w kapciach się po prostu wygodniej chodzi po domu. Sprawa z papieżem jest bardzo subiektywna jak zresztą wiele punktów. Szczególnie że ostatnimi laty wyciekają że tak powiem brudy. Ale to długi, trudny i rozległy temat który mnie nie obchodzi zresztą. W skrócie: nikt nie jest idealny.
It's illegal to drink alcohol or smoke marijuana in public places (restaurants and bars are not considered to be public places as they are privately owned) in the US. Of course the law is seldom enforced.
My mum is always nice to any guest. She never tells anyone tó także off their shoes. IT is a guest himself who dicedes what to to with his ger shoes upon entering they house.
13:38 I've never learnt that rule and I speak English fluently. In my opinion language should be acquired more naturally. I personally learned English by playing games that required spoken communication (CS:GO - it made me overcome the fear of speaking the language because to be good at the game, I was forced to do it), reading books in English, watching YT, watching films (especially those which I already knew very well in Polish) etc. Then, when I was already pretty good at it, I systematised my knowledge by learning actual grammar tenses, conditionals and so on. I know I'm not, and I may never be, on the level of the natives. And I know I make mistakes, but it will not stop me from using my Bri'ish, writing a book in English and working with mostly Indian English guys. 😄
About #2 thing... there is a little funny catch. If it's very late, all pubs are closed, but you find some not much secured beer garden. as long as you stay there, police won't charge you for drinking in public :D / Other thing is the Brits. I heard a lot of stories including British people who came to Krakow on the weekend and they end up in random fountain etc. I also saw it by myself few times. I don't know why but few years ago Kraków seem to by some cheap alternative for Ibiza for Brits. Why? No idea...
@@RobReacts1 Actually for last few years there is more and more visits from UK to the point that they made 3rd position in terms for foreigners that stayed in Poland for more than a day in January this year. 85k Germany 80k Ukraine 37k from UK. I also heard that Poland is becoming as retirement place for many Brits. It's just hard to regain reputation after decades when it might be true to speak not so good things and even today many countries just want to minimize how much Poland have accomplished. At least it's slowly changing and Poland is gaining it's place.
English is not a hard language grammar-wise and it has less sounds than Polish for example, but the thing that I used to find difficult is that there are so many homonyms and homophones
Languages are hard to learn when you are learning out of your language group. Ie if you speak romance language then other romance languages will be easiest, if you speak Germanic like English then other Germanic languages are easier ie German. Languages are truly complex when they differ from your languages syntaxes. Also I only speak English fluently so don't take my word as gospel. I know VERY limited Mandarin but I never learned syntax I can just count and say some basic sentences lol.
Drinking in public is illegal here and most places I think, accepted is obviously at home, or in licensed venues, technically you could call them 'public' as you are free to come and go as you please during operating hours, but pubs and restaurants etc are still private property that have strict laws to abide by, A couple of bevvies at the beach you can easily get away with, if your not littering or making scenes you will be okay, you'll just be asked to leave.
Okay, so: 1: This is definitely not true. While it is somewhat acceptable to be about 10-15 minutes late, most of Poles we do appreciate punctuality. It's rather coming before the arranged time that might be considered a no, but being on time is what people expect. 2: This is not 100% accurate, but many Poles say that, because them and also police officers or city guards are misinformed. The federal law prohibits the consumption of alcohol *on the street, in parks and on city squares/plazas* as a part of the 'Act of being raisend in sobriety and counteracting alcoholism'. The local municipality might add some SPECIFIC places to this list, but in case of such places you're most probably going to find an information board somewhere that will inform you that consumption of alcohol is prohibited in the designated area. But when it comes to beaches or or recreational zones in forests or other bosom of nature, the prohibition does not apply. Also there might be some exceptions. For example the boulevards usually do fall under the streets category, but in Szczecin we do have a part of the boulevard that has been assigned by the City as a recreational zone where you can find alcohol stands, tables, benches, recliners and so on and you can consume alcohol there. 3: Yeah, it's a good thing not to eat too much of things that are put first on the table, as most probably there is more coming on later and it would be considerate to at least try everything 4: Well yes, but that could be said about pretty much every European country. We're living in a global village so young people usually do speak English pretty well. Of course there are people who are more gifted in learning the languages than the others, but as a basic rule of thumb people around 20-30 should speak English on a good level, some people around 40 also know English as it might be required in their work, but from that, generally the older the person, the less probable they know English (but people in their 50-60 might actually know Russian or German due to 'historical' reasons) 5: Ehh... yea, I mean, some do believe that. The thing is the difficulty of Polish comes mostly from the pretty large amount of sounds we produce and grammar cases for nouns, but there are other languages that have a much more complex grammar. e.g. Finnish has even more noun cases than Plish, Spanish has A LOT of tenses which can be intimidating for a Pole to learn. Asian languages like Japanese and Chinese have pitch accents that might be a nightmare, so yeah... Every language comes with its own difficulties. 6: Okay, this one is really WRONG. If someone tells you that you don't have to take off your shoes, then they do mean it. Apart from that silliness they showed on the video, yes, we Poles tend to have lots of carpets in our houses or have wooden floors that might not be that easy to clean and we tend to have stocks of slippers in different sizes especially for our visitors, so in general it is a good rule to take out your shoes... unless specifically told not to. Of course this applies only to guests - we do not tell the servicemen that come to us to take out their shoes as in 'Keeping Up Appearances', but definitely we do not have the culture of having your outdoor shoes on in the house as, for example, the Americans do. 7: This one is divisive. In case of older and religious people -- yeah, of course. But in case of young people, like 30 or younger, making jokes of and offending John Paul II is part of our meme culture. But yeah, as a general rule, especially if you're a foreigner, don't do that.
Point 1 is rubbish. I will be angry fresh hot meal is getting ready point on time. If someone late 30 - 60 min its ruined. I hate when guests are late.
@@herbata5675 Ja dzwonię, że mogę być ewentualnie wcześniej jak mam czas i że mogę pomóc w przygotowaniach jeśli chodzi o spotkanie w domu. Jak ktoś chce to przychodzę, a jak nie to nie. A jeśli chodzi o spotkanie gdzieś w miejscu publicznym to jestem zawsze wcześnie o minimum 5minut, maxsimum 15, w zależności jakie to spotkanie. Jak już się mam spóźnić to mi tak głupio jest dzwonić, że nie będę na czas, że ja nie mogę.
@@Mikolaj91 To super, że informujesz daną osobę, że przyjdziesz wcześniej na spotkanie i w ogóle pytasz czy możesz. Mnie głównie chodziło o przypadki osób, które tak po prostu przychodzą przed czasem nikogo o tym nie informując, no bo osobiście mnie to zwyczajnie denerwuje. O miejsca publiczne to akurat nie ma o co się czepiać.
Ok, the first "tip" is pretty much bs. I'm Polish living in Poland and I personally hate when people are NOT on time. When I invite someone, I EXPECT them to be on time, so I'm myself prepared like 10 minutes before the time. And all my friends are like that too, so I don't know how it got here...
I cant agree to #1 either. It is not general rule and many poles could be annoyed if you are late 15 minutes because dinner was ready and steaming 15 minutes ago at the time you were suppose to show up, but now it is bland and needs reheating. No, no, no. Big no from me!
1.I don't like people being late. I always try to be punctual and I know many people like me, but there will always be someone who is not in a hurry. 2.Yeah, it's illegal. But it isn't if police won't see you. 3.Even I made some cakes. But my home-made specialaties are... you may be afraid. 4.Yeah. That's true. 5.I think polish is hard (even polls have problems with it), but it's a matter of skill. Hardest language in my opinion is chinese. 6. Old tradition. If you clean your house you want to keep clean. 7.John Paul II is actualy meme. Many teenagers are non-believers, so he is not an authority for them either.
Ok, I have to report one important thing: min. around 4:20 - in polish we say: "Even a visually impaired would notice, that was non-alcoholic beer." This kind of beer isn't classified as an alcohol (it contains less than 0,5% alcohol) and its drinking in public areas is entirely allowed. I can even say, what brand of beer it was - Warka Radler 0%. And about Pope the Pole, John Paul 2nd, last times our rulling party has accepted an Act of Defense the Popes Name, just after emission a documental movie about Pope's keeping in secret cases of paedophilia among priests (even for a long time until he had been chosen to the Holly See). IMO, the Pope kept it in secret to avoid medial sc. "thundershit" (pol. gównoburza), a hard argue - those times, under the communist influence, the Pole were hardly sensitive to such maters and it would caused even a war, just after two recently finished (recently at these times).
Rob reacts, this common stereotype portraying Poland as a very religious country is actually a huge misconception that we’re getting more and more weary of. While it is definitely true there are still a lot of churchgoers mostly among the elderly and some small percentage of younger people, the reality is that the majority of Poles don’t go to church, nor do they worship Pope, the Church and all these religious institutions. Let me give you a few examples: 1. The latest census results show that only 30% of Poles attend mass on Sundays 2. Churches in big cities are pretty much vacant, apart from some elderly people and traditional ceremonies like weddings, funerals etc 3. People strongly condemn church mishaps and wrongdoings such as sexual scandals, greed of priests, etc. priests can’t be proud of their good reputation anymore, well maybe in some small towns and in the countryside. 4. John Paul II is a role model again literally only for the older generations. Young people make fun of him, don’t give a damn about his legacy and frankly don’t even care about him. 5. Universities for priests are getting shut down every year, to the point that they have to merge them together. There’s also a huge decrease in number of new priests. 6. On top of all that, according ti Eurostat, Poland is the FASTEST secularizing country in the whole Europe. The list goes on. So believe me, this stereotype of Poland being such a religious country is really obsolete and doesn’t reflect the reality at all. Cheers mate
Maciej Well, I' m neither young nor old but JP2 has always been a role model for me and for many people of my age. Someone to look up to, even my friends and family, who aren' t religious people,have respected him for his devotion to preach about love, build peace, conquer communism. Bear in mind, he had almost died in an assault, the communists wanted to kill him because he posed a threat for them. I think there was something so special about him, you could feel his authenticity as a priest, his charisma whilst preaching. I think I am lucky that I had the opportunity to listen to him "live" and live at his times. I think that many of those people who mock and spit him do that staff partly because they didn' t know him, they were born after his death or were too small when he lived to have the awareness. They wouldn' t be doing all that now if they realised who they are making fun of. Again, you don' t have to be religious and pay tribute to him but at least be respectful and know about the history and appreciate his "share" to spread love and abolish communism. He surely did diserve that.
@@izal1938 sure, I respect your opinion. But believe me, there are plenty of people in this country who think quite the opposite of what you said. I’m a millennial myself, so I could also call myself neither old nor young, and me and all the people I know don’t go to church and don’t treat JP2 as any kind of role model. Who’s to say whose opinion is better? That having said, the reproaches against him covering pedophile scandals are very real and I can’t possibly comprehend how blind you have to be not to see it.
@@izal1938 I think the fact that you lived through the times when his cult of personality was vibrant doesn't make you more aware of his importance, but quite the opposite: you're staying blinded by the fog of greatness he covered himself behind. He always wanted to become an actor and he played his role perfectly, I have to give him that. He himself didn't do shit but he gave Poles the strenght of feeling important which helped us in feeling confident in taking direct actions against the regime. That's the fact that has to be appreciated. Other than that? Quite disgusting person, really; helping his group of shamelessly abusive and power-greedy minions take over the Vatican.
@@lemonid I could say the same- how could you be so blind as to believe in everything that tvn says? Are you dure accusations are real? Aren't you too quick in following the judgement that tvn made? Saying accusations like JP2 covered up pedophile is serious, however everyone/ any tv station can do it as Jp2 is long gone. Why don' t you consider taking everything with a pinch ( a very big one) of salt. Think critically. I know Tvp is biased but it doesn' t mean tvn is telling us " the truth and nothing but the truth" and is 100 %reliable. Should we take everything that 1 tv station ( whether it' s tvn or tvp) is saying as gospel, especially when serious accusations are concerned? Many people, do. People form their ultimate opinion on the basis what their favourite tv station is saying, they take it as gospel, i don' t understand why, especially here.We, our society, have always been swayed by mainstream media's view on things and that is the case here too. Do people like to be taken in? While almost any tv station is biased, that' s for sure, tvn it being suuuuuper biased as for Jp2 " case" is concerned. If you did some reasearch you'd see how unrieliable investigating methods were and the fact that people of communist era are involved here to "get JP2" and so on so forth. They want people to think that JP2 was nothing but an evil person and was surely, no doubt about that, covering up some shameful actions. They ( tvn) try to destroy his legacy of love altogether. Goebbels once said "repeat lie often enough and people will believe"- it' s the case with JP 2. We have been diveded on many things for a long time, now they , main stream media, want to divide us even further .It should stop. We have to think for ourselves more and not just rely on 1 tv channel or paper and not let them form our ultimate conclusions
Rob. I don't know if you happen to have account in Second life, but if you do, You can try to contact me there and I can help you learn few things (won't be easy). for #1 - If you are meeting with friends in their home, be a little late (that is considered polite), but if you do it outside their homes, be punctual or few minutes early. for #2 - well. you can encounter drunk people doing all kind of stuff everywhere. This regulation was put in place to prevent bad things that might happen. for #6 - yes, please ask first. MOre often you can go inside in shoes, as more modern flats have the 'easy cleaning floors' not like the big carpets or parquests that are harder to clean - that is practical thing. You can encounter this things also in some museums with old flooring, that require preservation. for #7 - that was Pope Francis, so no issue here :)
No. 7 - John Paul Second cult - it's kind of polish paranoia. You can insult all popes f.ex.: Francis, even John XXIII, Paul VI - both claimed as saints, but absolutely it's banned to insult JPII. I have mentioned John XXIII and Paul VI because it's many far-conservative catholics in Poland, who blame this two popes for "destructive revolution" in church (Second Vatican Council).
Shoes.... - Dont bloody ask. Start removing it. If host will say nothing about it(stops you) that means it is appropriate. By asking you make him uncomfortable as a gueats rights are high and its impolite to say no.
And another thing: when "subskrybujcie" is from Latin language and is use for long time "lajkujcie" is new word made from english "like" in 21st century. But we already have word for this and this word is "polubienie"-"like"(noun) so I would rather say "zostawcie polubienie i subskrybuje"-"leave like and subscription". But for many people it is no difference between using Polish and English version
Point one, roughly 5 minutes before agreed time is perfect! or just bang on time! That's it! Don't be late, never! Respect each other, have happy times!
english is one of the simplest languages to learn to speak, it's only difficult to master and be able to get into the finer parts of, basic understanding is very easily attainable also polish is in the top 10 hardest languages (top 5 if you exclude other slavic speakers) so we do have quite some pride in its difficulty John Paul II died in 2005 so you're fine there
Yup be on time, at home it is not so important, but meeting at 18:00 in pub, at 18:15 i will just go somewhere when other party does not show up or not call me and explain when they are late. It is because friends that are constantly late, so 15min (maybe 20) and bye bye you go for that summer house in bus. For beer in park buy 0% one and just gtfo for police.
This video is highly criticized in comments because some of these things are not really correct. I recommend Vigo's Dad's videos, he really nailed our culture code :)
i watched this video some time ago, and i gotta say its pretty inaccurate. the comments under that video say the same thing. im not sure how the creators screwed up so badly lol what im trying to say - dont consider these golden rules. for example the 1st one is ENTIRELY false.
No 1 is complete bullshit... As a Pole I did not ever heard about this rule and not even once somebody got angry to me for being on time... Being too early or too late is rude in Poland.
Poles are not just procrastinators, enjoying life and not worrying too much about stuff is a huge part of our Polish identity. Remember when our fly boys saved your arhse from German invasion bacj in 1940? That's mainly thanks to our ability to act and get things done when it's almost late. When I know I have 4 years to study for my professional licence exam, I waste no time for it, but when its looming in 3 months, then I beginning to cram for an exam.
English is the hardest language in the world for me. Because I'm old Polish witch. Are you really British? You sound so understandable for me. Interesting. :D
Being late on purpose was more popular like 30 years ago. Today it's best to be on time. It really pisses me off when someone is late because I am doing my best for the food to be done and warm on time and I don't want to reheat it, possibly risking overcooking or burning it. If you are running late, just call and let me know. You are saying Cześć (for Hi!) a bit like sześć (that means six). Try to hear the difference. I now that your mouth refuses to speak it ;) Polish is one of the hardest languages to learn but there are more difficult languages (like Mandarin but it is difficult in a different way than Polish is). It's also a matter of perspective. For English speaking people, Polish is quite difficult but not so much for the other Slavs. Younger generation is drastically less religious so you could get away with saying bad things about the Pope but you never know. I have left the Catholic church about 20 years ago so I wouldn't be offended. By default, you take your shoes off. Sometimes the host will tell you not to do this without you asking, then I guess it's OK to leave the shoes on. If someone tells me to leave the shoes on, I will ask 'for sure?' and only then leave them on. Some (especially grandmas) people will have slippers for the guests. It is OK not to use them. You can also bring your own slippers ;) It is polite to at least try all the homemade specialities. Poles are very hospitable and we are seriously trying to give you the best stuff (at least in our eyes) that we made. Other thing that you already know is not to call Poland eastern Europe.
Your sister has Polish roots. That's why I love her already. In our formal life we are punctual, but in our private life we have 30 minutes of freedom.
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1. Arriving a little late is to the hosts' advantage. It then gives the hosts time to work out the details. There is even a saying: "Coming too early is worse than coming late". Because someone might still be busy with other guests and not have time for us. And this puts the host in an awkward position. We should remember that we are meeting people. And time is not a brick that can be crushed. It's more like a rubber band that can be stretched a bit. Besides, we are also giving the guests themselves time to prepare and arrive. After all, they too may encounter various obstacles on their way. Therefore, the meeting time should not be a point in time, but rather a stretch to give yourself and others a margin.
2. Drinking alcohol.
On the one hand, there is freedom of action. As long as one does not harm others, one can do whatever one likes. But after drinking alcohol you get, as we say in Polish: "a monkey's mind". That is to say, we go crazy. We start hitting on others, causing trouble, damaging public property. And this is already punishable. That's why there is a ban on drinking in public spaces. Even hiding alcohol in a paper or plastic bag is prosecuted by the law enforcement if they spot us. Even simply drinking beer. In Poland, the law is strict in this case.
There are rules in Poland: Zastaw się, a postaw się. That is: even if you are poor, sacrifice what you have, but show up in front of your guests to make them happy. For a Pole, it is a dishonour to show the poor part of your life in front of others. Other sayings are: "Guest at home, God at home". That is to say, when we host someone, we show respect to God through a wanderer. Or, 'What's in a rich house, is in counsel'. Which means that even if you are poor, treat your guest with the best chattels you can afford.
#5
Polish is not the most difficult language in the world. It is only the FIFTH most difficult language. If you haven't heard Chinglish with its so-called Chiskim tone accent, then Polish will seem as simple as an Ikea stool.
English, on the other hand, is difficult because it has 32 tenses (although this is a problem for linguists, philosophers and everyday bread eaters alike). Well, and it begs the question: for what and why?
As for stepping into someone else's shoes.... It depends on the hosts. There are those who strictly adhere to this as if it were a promise, and there are those who will not even let you take off your shoes and frolic on the floor with your socks, or throw your slippers/loafers/boots at you - the regional term for "slippers". ;) And in this particular episode, when the girl says she goes barefoot at home, she's just plain fucking stupid! Maybe in her family. But most well-behaved Poles won't even let you take your shoes off. For a guest in the house, God in the house. It is foolish to think that you will bring dirt into the flat. At least with the people I know, they don't want you to get your socks dirty, for example when the hosts have a pet at home that sheds hair.
Number 7: It depends on the stakeholders themselves. I will write as follows: On the subject of religion and politics, it is best not to talk about it in Poland even between family members. According to the saying: "Where are two Poles there are three opinions." These are very sensitive topics, so if you don't know the opinions of others on a given subject, sometimes even the topic of the weather can be the beginning of an argument. ;) This is how Poles are. To drink and to fight. :D And when drunk, "Vodka for a Pole is like a spark on a powder keg."
English is one of the easiest languages in the world
The first thing is bullshit, maybe 50% of ppl that i know do something like that, and it is not bc of some rules, they are just too late but nobody cares too mutch. im 28.
The Pope is a controversial topic. You are not looking for a reason to short circuit - you are not starting a topic.
I'm Polish and this is the first time I've heard not to be on time. That's not true. On the contrary - being late is not welcome.
Same here.
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Exactly! I get annoyed when I invite someone, I make the preparations, and the guests don't show up on time, and I sit, wait, the food gets cold, etc. It's the first time I hear that it's impolite in our culture to arrive on time 🙃
I absolutely disagree with point 1. As a Pole, I have never encountered a situation where someone was offended because of the punctual arrival. It's a myth, there's nothing like it in Poland.
True, IMO being to early or to late is disrespectful.
I hate when someone is not on time, personally i would rather have people early than late.
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I agree 100%, if I invite someone for 8pm I expect them at 8pm max 8:05, if they wont call that they'll be late due to unexpected event or something I'm angey as fuck.
Those fuckers from easy polish are fucking liers.
rubbish, in poland guests should arrive on time not more than 15 min late but never earlier.
About point 1 - its not that you must be late, its that you should not come early. Lets say you have meeting with your friend at his place at 18, so your window for being "on time" is from 18 to 18:10/18:15 depending on host and occasion. But if you are showing up at lets say 17:50 your friend would propably still be preparing
As a Pole, I will say that point 1 (being late) is not true.
As for point 7, i.e. the Pope, Polish society is very divided on this matter. For some, the pope is a saint, while others make fun of him. The other points are true.
papiez to przestepca pedofilski i agent watykańskiego okupanta!!!
It depends which areas of the country,for friends of mine even 2hours late is not late.This is North east side of Poland.I was very surprised.,but mainly is on time.❤
No, it’s depend where are you from. I suppose in Poznan can be like that but in Warsaw can be rude come exactly on time. 15 minutes late it’s exactly what is expected.
@@AK-qv2im LOL. It depends which Pole you meet.
But does making fun of the Pope come off differently when a foreigner does it? As an American there are certain things I HATE when foreigners make fun of us for them, so personally I’d err on the side of politeness in another country and be careful what controversial things I do or don’t wade into.
I'm Polish and I hate being late. I also hate guests being late. Don't do it in Poland.
Too early is very bad too
@@mojyoqueen350 just be on time, duh x)
I'm Australian and never been to Europe. I am really enjoying your Polish videos. It's a country I've obviously heard of but it's not one I know anything about. Reading their replies to various videos has also been interesting and they seem quite friendly.
Oh great. I wasn't sure if my Aussie audience would watch these videos but great to see some are watching and learning along with me 😊
@@RobReacts1 there are quiet a few Aussies of polish decent in Melbourne.
The thing with asking about taking your shoes off is people will very often tell you that you don’t have to because they don’t want to discomfort you in case you have like a hole in your sock or smelly feet.
As a general rule I’d say take your shoes off if:
1. It’s winter
2. It was raining or muddy outside
3. You’re asked to
Don’t take them off if:
1. Your host walked in with you and didn’t take theirs off
2. Host told you you don’t have to but I dunno it’s hot and you’re sweaty or sth.
3. For women: you have some fancy pantyhose you don’t want to walk in barefoot.
4. Other guests are walking in shoes
It’s kinda like when Chinese people are inviting you to their house for dinner. You gotta feel it out if their just being polite or actually mean it.
Oh and regarding punctuality it depends on the type of meeting. If you invite multiple people to your house for like a party or something it’s better to come 15min late or even an hour. In most other cases you should be on time, so in cases like: meeting in caffe, meeting for any particular purpose like studying together or sth. Also depends how many people are coming. If it’s 1 on 1 meeting it’s very rude to be late. If it’s a group thing probably nobody will care.
Regarding the Pope 😂, depends what crowd your around. Some people really love to take a piss at him. The amount of almost idolatrous cult around him created sort of social distaste to his person in many people. Although mostly distaste to the cult not to his person. So many younger people will offer crack jokes of the darker variety about his likes, dislikes, life and death and alleged involvement in covering up pedophilia. Although it’s more of a closed meeting or internet phenomena. Kinda like when Queen died some Irish people weren’t too picky about their reaction.
Jeżeli chodzi o Jana Pawła 2 dużo o nim się mówi ale raczej w kontekście polityki .Gdyby lewica w Polsce nie miała w jednym z zadań zniszczenie katolicyzmu w Polsce raczej by się dużo nie mówiło o Janie Pawle 2 . I żeby nie było to każdy wie że kościół w Polsce jest powiązany z prawicową polityką . I dla tego jest ta zadyma.
@@zhangzy123 nie wiem za bardzo co to ma wspólnego z lewicą bo jak ja chodziłem do gimnazjum i żartowaliśmy z papieża to wszyscy byliśmy korwinistami. Ludzie z lewicy czy wtedy to SLD albo od Palikota raczej patrzyli się na to z politowaniem albo kompletnie ich to nie obchodziło.
@@xxXXDrDreXXxx Może i wtedy tak było. Tylko że dzisiaj mamy inne czasy. Każdy także zdaje sobie sprawę dla jakich ugrupowań politycznych pracują określone media i jaki mają przekaz . .Wypowiedzi polityków lewicowych także są jednoznaczne.
Perfect explanation to all topics you pointed out. Thanks for saving my time to do the same. I think you did better job.😊
Latte is the Italian word for milk. In Italy, you need to ask for a cafe latte, a milk coffee.
ah so basically thats why they got milk haha
Language difficulty is always relative. It's impossible to determine a language that is the hardest one to learn so that all people would agree
In Poland, at universities there is a custom called "academic quarter", which means that a student, but also a lecturer, is allowed to be late by 15 minutes. Apparently, the custom has also penetrated into everyday life :)
Gdzie przeniknął? Nie znam nikogo kto cieszy się ze spóźnialskich gości
@@cysiek63 współczuję :)
Also, students are not allowed to be 15 minutes late. This rule only applies to lecturers.
@@Miksuss they are allowed to be late, it might not be welcome, but you will be allowed to enter the room
@@aonodensetsu Well... it depends. I've heard of lecturers who forbade those who were late to enter the room.
When I was at the university, several lecturers were angry that people were late, but never kicked off anybody. And one of them had a rule that if someone was very late, he would ask them about the subjects and if you couldn't answer the questions, it could result in the lack of extra points in the exam.
Polish is not difficult 😉 For example :
English: Two, second
Polish: dwa, dwie, dwoje, dwóm, dwóch, dwojgu, drugi, druga, drudzy, drugim, drugiemu, drugiej, druga, drugim, drugiego, drugie, dwójki, dwójką, dwaj, dwiema, dwoma...
And that's just one word... Have a nice learning
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@@RobReacts1 you said that, in english you have a word with a diffrend meaning, same as we.
For example, in english if say glass, you can mean a material or kind of dish. In polish we have 'zamek', which mean castle or lock.
If ask why 'zamek' in polish means that, propably, becouse it protects something or somebody :)
@@DanOxein
Granat- Grenade,
granat- pomegranate
Droga- expensive
Droga- road
Moja droga- My dear
Piłka - ball
Piłka - saw
She told not to take his shoes off because she wanted him to feel comfortable but it doesn't mean that she's ok with it. I can relate 😂
As a Pole I always want to take my shoes off and only don't do that if my host tell me not to. And sometimes only if he tell it twice.
It is a good habit. If you ask as you suggest then host must tell you to do it what is rude as guests should't need to do anything. By asking "do I need to take my shoes off?" you tell your host that you would rather not to do that.
#1 - It's no true. It isn't our polish habit, it depends on one's people character.
#2 - True, but not always. Low is against drinking alkohol in public spaces, but there are some exception. Ask locals. Eg. In the park you can't drink, but on nearby university campus area, you can (because the university authorities gave permission).
#7 - It is better to not touch such subjects as: religion, politics. You can talk to many people about these topics, even if you have a different opinion. But sometimes you can come across a person who suddenly goes into extreme emotions and starts yelling at you and attacking you. It is safer to avoid politics, religion (and JP II).
I am polish, and I hate when people are late. And I hate to be late.
in Poland re: #2 you cannot drink in public places as if nothing happened, otherwise you will be fined by a council warden
as a Pole ,im confuss a bit with those "rules". I think its personal ,everybody got they own
7:10
True, if we're going on a trip, Grandma ALWAYS brings like a ton of food and expect us to eat it all and not go out anywhere in the city. But also remember, if a Polish grandma is offering you food, TAKE IT. It WILL be good.
as an young Pole (still in high school) the thing about us not having confidence to speak English is for many just the concern that even though we can understand it and read it, we might not be the best at pronunciation, I for example try to speak English when I'm alone, but really I don't think that's helping me much and I'd really love to have someone else (just an online friend who I could speak with to learn) but I just don't and I'm not sure hot go get a person like that, if I had my own apartment I could just get a roommate with lowered price for teaching me, but i'm not and so I'll probably be scared to speak in English for a long time
oh and about taking your shoes off in someone's house, its kind of gentleman rule not to force someone into taking their shoes off, so even if we say you don't need to its like when in japan you shouldn't say if you don't like food someone made for you, its impolite and we rather clean our house than have our guests unhappy
I completely disagree with point 1. Nobody likes latecomers. You make an appointment for a specific time, you are for a specific time. You can be there 5 minutes earlier and no later than 15 minutes. These 15 minutes are practically learned in school. This is the so-called academic quarter. Up to 15 minutes you don't have to explain yourself for being late. If we know that we will be late, it is better to inform about it. (google translate😉)
By not being on time you show, that you have no respect to the person you are meeting. Always be on time!
Very true!
Nie należy się nigdy spóźniać -Nigdy Rób. To jest oznaka braku szacunku dla osoby lub osób które Ciebie zaprosiły do siebie do domu. 😊😊😊😊
You are 100% right about #1, I don't know why, or who forced those people to tell such bullshit but if you're too soon it's uncomfortable for the host. If you are late it's rude (unless its the party with a lot of other people then nobody bother). What a bullshit, and they are poles! WTF ?!
Mam wrażenie, że możliwe, że mają sporo osób z takim podejściem wokół i założyli, że to zasada, ale to przesadne uogólnienie.
1:20 It isn't universally true everyware in Poland. Sometimes you can be late for 15 minutes but if it is more that can inconvenience the hosts. Especially if they are preparing hot food and microwave isn't in every household. :)
When it comes to being on time Poland may be confusing, because there are situations where you definitely need to be on time or even 5 minutes earlier, situations where you should be on time but with a 15 minutes emergency buffer, and those where it's polite to be 15 minutes late.
TIME is treated in different cultures in a different way (but I do agree with you, I hate people being late, too!). E.g. In Mexico you should be even up to 3 hours "late" not to offend the hosts. I had culture difference workshops at my Cross-Culture Psychology Studies and the Japanese came on time, or just a few seconds before, the Poles 15 min late and the Mexicans 1-3 hours late. There is a joke about it: if you organize a meeting at 5, tell the Germans it's at 5, the Poles it's at 4.45 and the Mexicans/Spanish/Greeks and so on, that the meeting is at 3. This way everybody will be at 5 sharp.
On the other hand, I learned how NOT to order two beers in a pub using my fingers😂
Well, a lot of people are saying stuff regarding point 1.
I do that, my friends do that, my family does it. It's not really offensive, but more of a good gesture towards people who know that and understand that gesture. If you are meeting with someone and it's very formal, or that person really cares for showing up on time, then don't come late. Coming in early is also a case of "it depends".
But yeah, the 15 minutes is usually, in most cases not a big deal, and it's definitely not offensive to show up on time, or 15 minutes early or late in your private life usually.
About the shoes... well... you never tell your guest to take off their shoes because it's considered impolite and a symbol of a bad host. You are nearly always expected to take off your shoes.
That's the tradition. But, there are people who are more upfront, and will tell you (there are often also some cues as to what you should do). I recommend going by the rule, that if the flat/home looks clean, then you do take off the shoes regardless of anything.
5:33 cant drink in public places but there is zywiec umbrella in the background. zywiec is a brand of beer and this is a public place
Hey if you want to learn the Polish language a good rule of thumb to keep in mind that makes you sound really authentic is to always put emphasis on the second syllable!
Actually, in Polish language emphasis (accent) is on the second last syllable😊
If a word has only two syllables then this will make emphasis fall on the first syllable. 😊
Point 6 is incorrect, it actually depends on one's background and upbringing. In the majority of cases, it may be true because a person or their parents come from, for example, a rural area where footwear is changed after working in the fields or barn. However, when dealing with individuals with higher standards of upbringing, removing shoes may be perceived as a faux pas and a sign of lack of manners. Additionally, doormats are placed in front of the entrance to the house for guests to wipe their shoes on them. It can be particularly poorly perceived during formal gatherings, such as an invitation to a formal dinner, birthday, name day, or holidays. Exceptions may apply in situations where we have known a person for a very long time and are in the company of close friends.
The first point is also incorrect. A significant portion of Poles is sensitive when it comes to punctuality and prepares, for example, a meal for guests at a specific time. Arriving later may mean that you will be eating reheated food. In the case of a larger number of people, your lateness can disrupt the meeting's plans, which may be perceived as an attempt to draw attention to yourself. A guest who is late can also be seen as someone treating others condescendingly because they are unable to adjust their plans to a previously arranged meeting.
14:40 to jest sarkazm. jesli przychodzisz, w gości to zalozenie od gospodarzy jest takie, ze zdejmiesz buty mimo, ze zostalo powiedziane, ze nie trzeba.
I absolutely disagree with point 6 (shoes off).
I live in Warsaw and believe me or not, I never ever took my shoes off when I entered somebody's else flat/house.
YMMV 🙂
I have a daughter that is consistently late. We always tell her a time which is 1/2 hour early. It generally works. As far as hard languages go I would say Japanese is right up there. If you don't want to read or write it, then it's a lot easier. They have 3 written languages, Kanji, Katakana and Hiragana, and knowing when to use each one, as they would all come together in any written article. Plus they have many different ways in which they count things. Long things are different to round thing, vegetables and fruit get counted differently. I think it's either 6 or 8 different counting systems.
Not sure how it works everywhere, but back at my home you'd have indoor shoes and outdoor shoes that you swap between when needed.
There are a lot of English people who speak quite good Polish. But I love speaking English As a Pole.
#1 - if you go to somebody's home, yes, come a little bit later. If you have invitation to somebody's private home in Poland for a specific time, it simply means "come not earlier than..., arrive within next 15 minutes, 30 minutes for longer visits". This generally applies only to private visits in somebody's home.
#2 - I have friends in London, and between them, a Polish women born in the UK, the daughter of a Polish fighter pilot who fought in the Battle of Britain. She was always saying that she became ashamed of being a Pole since she started to notice new Polish immigrants drinking in London's parks, sometimes even at 6 am.
#6 - because she was just polite.
#7 - it's not about religion, it is about values. There was the entire so-called JP2 generation - young people that, for their whole life since they were born, JP2 has always been there. Imagine a series of gatherings during each of his visits to Poland, and each of them was physically bringing together 1 million or more people. I don't understand your outrage that you had to wait longer in the airport because JP2 flight. John Paul II was head of state - Vatican. Can you imagine that you don't have to wait if King Charles III or President Biden flee out same time as you from the same airport? You have also reacted to the IPN's video "The Unconquered." You may remember when Sean Bean said: "The pope gives us strength." There is something behind it.
Longtime resident...
1. being a bit late (15 to 20 minutes is okay but more than that... no) maybe that's an old Warsaw thing (I live elsewhere)
2. if you don't show off or get plastered no one will care
3. trying to politely turn down food or drink..... not easy.... you will be held down like a goose and force fed if need be....
4. the language is absolutely necessary for longterm residents (unless you want to stay in a foreigner ghetto)
5. people are weirdly insistent about that, as a linguist I gave up trying
6. I never wore shoes at home in the US so no problem for me, if it's a very short visit (5 minutes or so) then you don't need to take off shoes but if you're gonna sit down, yeah take them off.
7. very true
I don't like people being late.
Point two.
Its easy to pour over beer/wine/vodka/etc to a colorfoul bottle after juice or coke or something. I don't understand the problem.
i'm from poland and i to am a stickler for time. With annoys me, sometimes my friends plan to meet at 8.00 and come at 8.30 which I hate!
#5 Polish language is difficult, even those guys misspelled few words in subtitles and as I assume they are from some language school :D
My sister and brother in law were so consistently late to celebrations we made bets on how late they'd be, I won $5 one Christmas for 45 minutes late! 🤣😂
haha it does annoy me!
I'm Polish and my wife is pissed if someone is late even 5min
8:10 you dare to insult us ?!...
Haha
starszą osobę to można zapytać po rosyjsku i sprawdzić jak na lekcjach uważała hehe
#1 is untrue if you are late you are just uncultured
The thing with telling someone not to take off their shoes when they ask, from my perspective, is about being polite and make sure someone is comfortable. Even at a cost of our own comfortability
The first point is simply not true. Maybe it depends on the region? I think it's best to be on time or just a little late. But being early sounds like a bad idea and a faux pas.
Although I wouldn’t consider number 1 a general rule, I have yet to meet someone who’s 100% prepared for a visit on time, especially if it’s not just popping by for a coffee but a long overdue visit which ends up being a homemade dinner consisting of five dishes and a dessert. You’re by no means expected to be late but depending on the occasion being slightly late often comes as a lifesaver for the host ;) No one is going to be annoyed by a 15 minute lateness, especially if you announce it on an half an hour’s notice 👍🏾
Thank You 😊
I'm Polish, I'm lazy and I must admit I always hope for people to be late. I prepare meals to be ready when I want them to be ready, I'm OK when you're on time, I'm happy when you're late, I'm very agitated when you're early. 20 years in England but I do think late is good. :) - reading the comment below I had to do a smiley face. Be late rather than early. If you had to travel and arrived early have a cigarette or play a game on your phone for 15 minutes :)
Or you can give the correct time you want people to arrive haha
Same here, being late an hour would be rude, but 10-15 minutes is fine. Important - this is for private meetings only and is not acceptable on an official, business level.
@@RobReacts1 So True
@@Afkhh Yes. I wouldn't be late for a formal meeting.
Hi, I think they got certain things wrong a bit.
When sb tells you that they expect you to be in their place at 7 pm, it means you should be on time, at 7. Not earlier, not later, but at 7. I'm Polish and I've never heard of such a thing that you should come later than you agreed on... That's so weird. So, you're 100% right, you should be on time. If sb is not prepared by 7 pm, it's their fault and not yours.
As far as taking off your shoes when you enter sb's home is concerned, then yes, you ALWAYS take off your shoes. I know, it's weird when they tell you not to do that, but they simply want to be polite... If it is a flat and you see it's really clean, the more reasons you have to actually take your shoes off. The only situation in which you'd not do that is if for example, you were in a village and a person tells you that the floor is not that clean, it's really cold and you'd just get sick, then yes, don't take off your shoes. However, if a person doesn't give you more reasons why you should keep your shoes on, then take them off. You show good manners that way and you show that you're also polite 😉
And, yes, be ready - Polish people do like feeding you with food they prepared. Especially, grannies... Young people probably won't do that. Also, if you want to kinda make sure you are not fed in your "friend's" place, then say straight away that you want to come for tea/coffee and AFTER DINNER. It's completely fine. I do say that a lot myself 🙈 I simply don't eat everything and hate being in situations when there's stuff on the table I don't want to eat but have to simply to be polite. Then, obviously, I don't eat anything and... well... you can image how horrible it feels. So, better just say you won't come for dinner but for tea or coffee 😇
As to the language... Well, Polish people realise that their language is extremely difficult, BUT, not for everyone. We know that it is much simpler to learn for people coming from Eastern Europe (and it makes us happy!). Our languages belong to the same family and so, lots of words and phrases are the same or similar. However, we know how tough it can be for people from other parts of the world. But, we don't boast with that so much. It's also not something to be proud of...
14:40 - jeszcze nie wiedziałem lepszego zderzenia kultur jak tutaj i twoja reakcja. To też może być kwestią osobowości niż kultury z innych krajów. On był uprzejmy bo zapytał a ona była uprzejma bo pozwoliła mu w nich zostać mimo że jej się to nie podoba. Nie chciała robić mu kłopotu. Ale to zależy od człowieka. Gdyby mnie ktoś zapytał czy ściągnąć buty to zrobiłbym taką minę że zorientowałby się aby je zdjąć. Gdyby ktoś nie zapytał i wszedł do mojego mieszkania w butach to (powiedzmy że to kumpel) to bym krzyknął i żartobliwie dał do zrozumienia że zaraz zginie jeśli pobrudzi mi podłogę.
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Wiesz, część z tych przykładów nie możesz brać dosłownie mimo że tak są przedstawiane - dosłownie. Np: przychodzenie 15 minut po wyznaczonym terminie jest bardzo specyficzną rzeczą. Wynika to z tego chyba że źle zdanie zostało sformułowane. Gdyby napisali "przyjdź około godziny 17" to wtedy nie byłoby problemu. Gdy umawiasz się na spotkanie u kogoś to podajesz często mniej konkretną godzinę np 17 i nie przychodzisz idealnie o tej godzinie tylko troszkę później. Wtedy gospodarz się przygotowuje na twoje przybycie i robi różne rzeczy. I nawet nie ma się czym przejmować jeśli gość przyjdzie a ty nadal coś przygotowujesz. Zaraz to zostanie przyrządzone a wy sobie możecie porozmawiać. A w tym wideo zostało to tak przedstawione jakby spotkanie ze znajomym było jak rozmowa o pracę z szefem/rekruterem. Jak to się u nas mawia "weź to z przymrużeniem oka" czyli odrobiną soli chyba w anglojęzycznych krajach się mówi.
PS: matka kiedyś chciała zabić (przesadzam) fachowca który wszedł do domu. Tak zwani fachowcy po których się dzwoni np: hydraulik, etc zwykle przychodzą z nie ściągają butów. Niezależnie czy są mocno ubłocone czy padał deszcz. Oni mają to gdzieś. Sam chciałem kiedyś kopnąć w dupę takiego fachowca bo to chamskie zachowanie. I jeszcze przyjechał godzine po czasie. To podwójne przelanie czary goryczy. No i uważaj w polsce na tych fachowców. Dużo kasy wezmą i nie ma gwarancji czy coś naprawią. Niektórzy ludzie są okropni. A co do butów jeszcze to gdy przyjdziesz do mojego dziadka to jest specjalne wydzielone miejsce na buty i on w szafie ma chyba 20 par różnych kapci. Do wyboru do koloru. A w kapciach się po prostu wygodniej chodzi po domu.
Sprawa z papieżem jest bardzo subiektywna jak zresztą wiele punktów. Szczególnie że ostatnimi laty wyciekają że tak powiem brudy. Ale to długi, trudny i rozległy temat który mnie nie obchodzi zresztą. W skrócie: nikt nie jest idealny.
It's illegal to drink alcohol or smoke marijuana in public places (restaurants and bars are not considered to be public places as they are privately owned) in the US. Of course the law is seldom enforced.
@Julia Poland - Polish-American.
My mum is always nice to any guest. She never tells anyone tó także off their shoes. IT is a guest himself who dicedes what to to with his ger shoes upon entering they house.
Ii grew up in Qld, we could not drink at beaches parks etc, but here in NSW I can
13:38 I've never learnt that rule and I speak English fluently. In my opinion language should be acquired more naturally. I personally learned English by playing games that required spoken communication (CS:GO - it made me overcome the fear of speaking the language because to be good at the game, I was forced to do it), reading books in English, watching YT, watching films (especially those which I already knew very well in Polish) etc. Then, when I was already pretty good at it, I systematised my knowledge by learning actual grammar tenses, conditionals and so on. I know I'm not, and I may never be, on the level of the natives. And I know I make mistakes, but it will not stop me from using my Bri'ish, writing a book in English and working with mostly Indian English guys. 😄
About #2 thing... there is a little funny catch. If it's very late, all pubs are closed, but you find some not much secured beer garden. as long as you stay there, police won't charge you for drinking in public :D / Other thing is the Brits. I heard a lot of stories including British people who came to Krakow on the weekend and they end up in random fountain etc. I also saw it by myself few times. I don't know why but few years ago Kraków seem to by some cheap alternative for Ibiza for Brits. Why? No idea...
Yea Krakow is cheap. I dont think enough brits go to poland though. Its not seen as being a desirable place for some strange reason.
@@RobReacts1 Actually for last few years there is more and more visits from UK to the point that they made 3rd position in terms for foreigners that stayed in Poland for more than a day in January this year. 85k Germany 80k Ukraine 37k from UK. I also heard that Poland is becoming as retirement place for many Brits. It's just hard to regain reputation after decades when it might be true to speak not so good things and even today many countries just want to minimize how much Poland have accomplished. At least it's slowly changing and Poland is gaining it's place.
It is proper to be "fashionably late" (within 15 min) for a social visit, so why not make this adjustment in your scheduling?
English is not a hard language grammar-wise and it has less sounds than Polish for example, but the thing that I used to find difficult is that there are so many homonyms and homophones
Especially that some of them make sentences have a lot of different meanings without additional context provided
3. True. Homemade just to be better than bought ready to eat dish.
You're right. If people tell you not to take your shoes off you don't take them off.
Rob seem obsessed with Poland for some reason 😂
I enjoy learning about there .. Just like Australia 😊
@@RobReacts1 If you visit Poland we can meet and I can show you how to Poland.
Languages are hard to learn when you are learning out of your language group. Ie if you speak romance language then other romance languages will be easiest, if you speak Germanic like English then other Germanic languages are easier ie German. Languages are truly complex when they differ from your languages syntaxes. Also I only speak English fluently so don't take my word as gospel. I know VERY limited Mandarin but I never learned syntax I can just count and say some basic sentences lol.
true, meet at the agreed time. I don't know where the 15 minutes come from
I always plan to arrive on time or just a bit early. I hate to be late. You should be ready at the time you ask your guests to arrive.
Meeting on time is _exactly_ on time for me - an it always has been.
Drinking in public is illegal here and most places I think, accepted is obviously at home, or in licensed venues, technically you could call them 'public' as you are free to come and go as you please during operating hours, but pubs and restaurants etc are still private property that have strict laws to abide by, A couple of bevvies at the beach you can easily get away with, if your not littering or making scenes you will be okay, you'll just be asked to leave.
Okay, so:
1: This is definitely not true. While it is somewhat acceptable to be about 10-15 minutes late, most of Poles we do appreciate punctuality. It's rather coming before the arranged time that might be considered a no, but being on time is what people expect.
2: This is not 100% accurate, but many Poles say that, because them and also police officers or city guards are misinformed.
The federal law prohibits the consumption of alcohol *on the street, in parks and on city squares/plazas* as a part of the 'Act of being raisend in sobriety and counteracting alcoholism'. The local municipality might add some SPECIFIC places to this list, but in case of such places you're most probably going to find an information board somewhere that will inform you that consumption of alcohol is prohibited in the designated area. But when it comes to beaches or or recreational zones in forests or other bosom of nature, the prohibition does not apply. Also there might be some exceptions. For example the boulevards usually do fall under the streets category, but in Szczecin we do have a part of the boulevard that has been assigned by the City as a recreational zone where you can find alcohol stands, tables, benches, recliners and so on and you can consume alcohol there.
3: Yeah, it's a good thing not to eat too much of things that are put first on the table, as most probably there is more coming on later and it would be considerate to at least try everything
4: Well yes, but that could be said about pretty much every European country. We're living in a global village so young people usually do speak English pretty well. Of course there are people who are more gifted in learning the languages than the others, but as a basic rule of thumb people around 20-30 should speak English on a good level, some people around 40 also know English as it might be required in their work, but from that, generally the older the person, the less probable they know English (but people in their 50-60 might actually know Russian or German due to 'historical' reasons)
5: Ehh... yea, I mean, some do believe that. The thing is the difficulty of Polish comes mostly from the pretty large amount of sounds we produce and grammar cases for nouns, but there are other languages that have a much more complex grammar. e.g. Finnish has even more noun cases than Plish, Spanish has A LOT of tenses which can be intimidating for a Pole to learn. Asian languages like Japanese and Chinese have pitch accents that might be a nightmare, so yeah... Every language comes with its own difficulties.
6: Okay, this one is really WRONG. If someone tells you that you don't have to take off your shoes, then they do mean it. Apart from that silliness they showed on the video, yes, we Poles tend to have lots of carpets in our houses or have wooden floors that might not be that easy to clean and we tend to have stocks of slippers in different sizes especially for our visitors, so in general it is a good rule to take out your shoes... unless specifically told not to.
Of course this applies only to guests - we do not tell the servicemen that come to us to take out their shoes as in 'Keeping Up Appearances', but definitely we do not have the culture of having your outdoor shoes on in the house as, for example, the Americans do.
7: This one is divisive. In case of older and religious people -- yeah, of course. But in case of young people, like 30 or younger, making jokes of and offending John Paul II is part of our meme culture. But yeah, as a general rule, especially if you're a foreigner, don't do that.
In fact I know chinese. To be honest it's pretty easy for Poles. We have quite a few similar sounds.
Point 1 is rubbish. I will be angry fresh hot meal is getting ready point on time. If someone late 30 - 60 min its ruined. I hate when guests are late.
Dokładnie. Nie wiem gdzie w Polsce lubią spóźnianie.
Jest umówione na 16 to przychodzisz na 16, nie znoszę jak ktoś się spóźnia.
@@Mikolaj91 Ani jak ktoś przychodzi za wcześnie (Przynajmniej u mnie starają się tak nie robić.
@@herbata5675 Ja dzwonię, że mogę być ewentualnie wcześniej jak mam czas i że mogę pomóc w przygotowaniach jeśli chodzi o spotkanie w domu. Jak ktoś chce to przychodzę, a jak nie to nie.
A jeśli chodzi o spotkanie gdzieś w miejscu publicznym to jestem zawsze wcześnie o minimum 5minut, maxsimum 15, w zależności jakie to spotkanie.
Jak już się mam spóźnić to mi tak głupio jest dzwonić, że nie będę na czas, że ja nie mogę.
@@Mikolaj91 To super, że informujesz daną osobę, że przyjdziesz wcześniej na spotkanie i w ogóle pytasz czy możesz. Mnie głównie chodziło o przypadki osób, które tak po prostu przychodzą przed czasem nikogo o tym nie informując, no bo osobiście mnie to zwyczajnie denerwuje. O miejsca publiczne to akurat nie ma o co się czepiać.
Ok, the first "tip" is pretty much bs. I'm Polish living in Poland and I personally hate when people are NOT on time. When I invite someone, I EXPECT them to be on time, so I'm myself prepared like 10 minutes before the time. And all my friends are like that too, so I don't know how it got here...
I cant agree to #1 either. It is not general rule and many poles could be annoyed if you are late 15 minutes because dinner was ready and steaming 15 minutes ago at the time you were suppose to show up, but now it is bland and needs reheating. No, no, no. Big no from me!
In case You didn't know, Polish is the 6th hardest language in the world :D
1.I don't like people being late. I always try to be punctual and I know many people like me, but there will always be someone who is not in a hurry.
2.Yeah, it's illegal. But it isn't if police won't see you.
3.Even I made some cakes. But my home-made specialaties are... you may be afraid.
4.Yeah. That's true.
5.I think polish is hard (even polls have problems with it), but it's a matter of skill. Hardest language in my opinion is chinese.
6. Old tradition. If you clean your house you want to keep clean.
7.John Paul II is actualy meme. Many teenagers are non-believers, so he is not an authority for them either.
Heheheee! I do this … invite people at a time thinking they’ll be half hour late! It’s coz I’m always late! 😂😂😂
Number 2. Of course you drink alcohol in public spaces. If you are looking for adrenaline, or you want to show who is the MAn ! :D
In silesia we come early or on time never late we rather be 1h earlier than late (atleast in my family)
Ok, I have to report one important thing: min. around 4:20 - in polish we say: "Even a visually impaired would notice, that was non-alcoholic beer." This kind of beer isn't classified as an alcohol (it contains less than 0,5% alcohol) and its drinking in public areas is entirely allowed. I can even say, what brand of beer it was - Warka Radler 0%. And about Pope the Pole, John Paul 2nd, last times our rulling party has accepted an Act of Defense the Popes Name, just after emission a documental movie about Pope's keeping in secret cases of paedophilia among priests (even for a long time until he had been chosen to the Holly See). IMO, the Pope kept it in secret to avoid medial sc. "thundershit" (pol. gównoburza), a hard argue - those times, under the communist influence, the Pole were hardly sensitive to such maters and it would caused even a war, just after two recently finished (recently at these times).
Rob reacts, this common stereotype portraying Poland as a very religious country is actually a huge misconception that we’re getting more and more weary of. While it is definitely true there are still a lot of churchgoers mostly among the elderly and some small percentage of younger people, the reality is that the majority of Poles don’t go to church, nor do they worship Pope, the Church and all these religious institutions. Let me give you a few examples:
1. The latest census results show that only 30% of Poles attend mass on Sundays
2. Churches in big cities are pretty much vacant, apart from some elderly people and traditional ceremonies like weddings, funerals etc
3. People strongly condemn church mishaps and wrongdoings such as sexual scandals, greed of priests, etc. priests can’t be proud of their good reputation anymore, well maybe in some small towns and in the countryside.
4. John Paul II is a role model again literally only for the older generations. Young people make fun of him, don’t give a damn about his legacy and frankly don’t even care about him.
5. Universities for priests are getting shut down every year, to the point that they have to merge them together. There’s also a huge decrease in number of new priests.
6. On top of all that, according ti Eurostat, Poland is the FASTEST secularizing country in the whole Europe.
The list goes on. So believe me, this stereotype of Poland being such a religious country is really obsolete and doesn’t reflect the reality at all.
Cheers mate
I made the point that at the last census the UK are becoming more atheist, which is bloody brilliant!
Maciej Well, I' m neither young nor old but JP2 has always been a role model for me and for many people of my age. Someone to look up to, even my friends and family, who aren' t religious people,have respected him for his devotion to preach about love, build peace, conquer communism. Bear in mind, he had almost died in an assault, the communists wanted to kill him because he posed a threat for them. I think there was something so special about him, you could feel his authenticity as a priest, his charisma whilst preaching. I think I am lucky that I had the opportunity to listen to him "live" and live at his times. I think that many of those people who mock and spit him do that staff partly because they didn' t know him, they were born after his death or were too small when he lived to have the awareness. They wouldn' t be doing all that now if they realised who they are making fun of. Again, you don' t have to be religious and pay tribute to him but at least be respectful and know about the history and appreciate his "share" to spread love and abolish communism. He surely did diserve that.
@@izal1938 sure, I respect your opinion. But believe me, there are plenty of people in this country who think quite the opposite of what you said. I’m a millennial myself, so I could also call myself neither old nor young, and me and all the people I know don’t go to church and don’t treat JP2 as any kind of role model. Who’s to say whose opinion is better? That having said, the reproaches against him covering pedophile scandals are very real and I can’t possibly comprehend how blind you have to be not to see it.
@@izal1938 I think the fact that you lived through the times when his cult of personality was vibrant doesn't make you more aware of his importance, but quite the opposite: you're staying blinded by the fog of greatness he covered himself behind. He always wanted to become an actor and he played his role perfectly, I have to give him that. He himself didn't do shit but he gave Poles the strenght of feeling important which helped us in feeling confident in taking direct actions against the regime. That's the fact that has to be appreciated. Other than that? Quite disgusting person, really; helping his group of shamelessly abusive and power-greedy minions take over the Vatican.
@@lemonid I could say the same- how could you be so blind as to believe in everything that tvn says? Are you dure accusations are real? Aren't you too quick in following the judgement that tvn made? Saying accusations like JP2 covered up pedophile is serious, however everyone/ any tv station can do it as Jp2 is long gone.
Why don' t you consider taking everything with a pinch ( a very big one) of salt. Think critically. I know Tvp is biased but it doesn' t mean tvn is telling us " the truth and nothing but the truth" and is 100 %reliable. Should we take everything that 1 tv station ( whether it' s tvn or tvp) is saying as gospel, especially when serious accusations are concerned? Many people, do. People form their ultimate opinion on the basis what their favourite tv station is saying, they take it as gospel, i don' t understand why, especially here.We, our society, have always been swayed by mainstream media's view on things and that is the case here too. Do people like to be taken in? While almost any tv station is biased, that' s for sure, tvn it being suuuuuper biased as for Jp2 " case" is concerned. If you did some reasearch you'd see how unrieliable investigating methods were and the fact that people of communist era are involved here to "get JP2" and so on so forth. They want people to think that JP2 was nothing but an evil person and was surely, no doubt about that, covering up some shameful actions. They ( tvn) try to destroy his legacy of love altogether. Goebbels once said "repeat lie often enough and people will believe"- it' s the case with JP 2.
We have been diveded on many things for a long time, now they , main stream media, want to divide us even further .It should stop. We have to think for ourselves more and not just rely on 1 tv channel or paper and not let them form our ultimate conclusions
Rob. I don't know if you happen to have account in Second life, but if you do, You can try to contact me there and I can help you learn few things (won't be easy).
for #1 - If you are meeting with friends in their home, be a little late (that is considered polite), but if you do it outside their homes, be punctual or few minutes early.
for #2 - well. you can encounter drunk people doing all kind of stuff everywhere. This regulation was put in place to prevent bad things that might happen.
for #6 - yes, please ask first. MOre often you can go inside in shoes, as more modern flats have the 'easy cleaning floors' not like the big carpets or parquests that are harder to clean - that is practical thing. You can encounter this things also in some museums with old flooring, that require preservation.
for #7 - that was Pope Francis, so no issue here :)
No. 7 - John Paul Second cult - it's kind of polish paranoia. You can insult all popes f.ex.: Francis, even John XXIII, Paul VI - both claimed as saints, but absolutely it's banned to insult JPII. I have mentioned John XXIII and Paul VI because it's many far-conservative catholics in Poland, who blame this two popes for "destructive revolution" in church (Second Vatican Council).
Joke, no insult. Blame, no insult.
1. Right with savoir vivre it's good to be late 15 min on party but it's not the rule in Poland
I'm Pole and OMG this video you comment is absolute rubbish... Only point about alcohole is accurate.
Shoes.... -
Dont bloody ask. Start removing it. If host will say nothing about it(stops you) that means it is appropriate.
By asking you make him uncomfortable as a gueats rights are high and its impolite to say no.
And another thing: when "subskrybujcie" is from Latin language and is use for long time "lajkujcie" is new word made from english "like" in 21st century. But we already have word for this and this word is "polubienie"-"like"(noun) so I would rather say "zostawcie polubienie i subskrybuje"-"leave like and subscription". But for many people it is no difference between using Polish and English version
Im polish and I like to be on time. Most polish peoples like to be on time.
Point one, roughly 5 minutes before agreed time is perfect! or just bang on time! That's it! Don't be late, never! Respect each other, have happy times!
english is one of the simplest languages to learn to speak, it's only difficult to master and be able to get into the finer parts of, basic understanding is very easily attainable
also polish is in the top 10 hardest languages (top 5 if you exclude other slavic speakers) so we do have quite some pride in its difficulty
John Paul II died in 2005 so you're fine there
Yup be on time, at home it is not so important, but meeting at 18:00 in pub, at 18:15 i will just go somewhere when other party does not show up or not call me and explain when they are late. It is because friends that are constantly late, so 15min (maybe 20) and bye bye you go for that summer house in bus. For beer in park buy 0% one and just gtfo for police.
This video is highly criticized in comments because some of these things are not really correct. I recommend Vigo's Dad's videos, he really nailed our culture code :)
i watched this video some time ago, and i gotta say its pretty inaccurate.
the comments under that video say the same thing. im not sure how the creators screwed up so badly lol
what im trying to say - dont consider these golden rules. for example the 1st one is ENTIRELY false.
No 1 is complete bullshit... As a Pole I did not ever heard about this rule and not even once somebody got angry to me for being on time... Being too early or too late is rude in Poland.
Poles are not just procrastinators, enjoying life and not worrying too much about stuff is a huge part of our Polish identity. Remember when our fly boys saved your arhse from German invasion bacj in 1940? That's mainly thanks to our ability to act and get things done when it's almost late. When I know I have 4 years to study for my professional licence exam, I waste no time for it, but when its looming in 3 months, then I beginning to cram for an exam.
You are great!!!
These girls probably come from a Mazovian village located east of the Vistula River. 😉
English is the hardest language in the world for me. Because I'm old Polish witch. Are you really British? You sound so understandable for me. Interesting. :D
Being late on purpose was more popular like 30 years ago. Today it's best to be on time. It really pisses me off when someone is late because I am doing my best for the food to be done and warm on time and I don't want to reheat it, possibly risking overcooking or burning it.
If you are running late, just call and let me know.
You are saying Cześć (for Hi!) a bit like sześć (that means six). Try to hear the difference. I now that your mouth refuses to speak it ;)
Polish is one of the hardest languages to learn but there are more difficult languages (like Mandarin but it is difficult in a different way than Polish is).
It's also a matter of perspective. For English speaking people, Polish is quite difficult but not so much for the other Slavs.
Younger generation is drastically less religious so you could get away with saying bad things about the Pope but you never know. I have left the Catholic church about 20 years ago so I wouldn't be offended.
By default, you take your shoes off. Sometimes the host will tell you not to do this without you asking, then I guess it's OK to leave the shoes on. If someone tells me to leave the shoes on, I will ask 'for sure?' and only then leave them on.
Some (especially grandmas) people will have slippers for the guests. It is OK not to use them. You can also bring your own slippers ;)
It is polite to at least try all the homemade specialities. Poles are very hospitable and we are seriously trying to give you the best stuff (at least in our eyes) that we made.
Other thing that you already know is not to call Poland eastern Europe.
Your sister has Polish roots. That's why I love her already. In our formal life we are punctual, but in our private life we have 30 minutes of freedom.