Cryptid Profile: Mokele-mbembe and the “Lost” Dinosaurs of the Congo
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Today I will discuss the elusive phenomenon of Mokele-mbembe and the other "Congo Dinosaurs". For over a century, Africa has been said to be home to large prehistoric beasts unknown to science. Is there any truth to this claim? You'll have to find out in this episode of Cryptid Profile!
[Sorry for the weird flickering that sometimes pops up in the video, I tried to fix it but to no avail]
Thank you to the artists I featured in this video!
Mokele-mbembe and Emela-ntouka artwork by @Worthikids ( / worthikids )
Mbielu-Mbielu-Mbielu by Ashley Patch ( / ashleypalaeo )
Citations
Loxton, Daniel; Prothero, Donald R. (2013). Abominable Science: Origins of the Yeti, Nessie, and other Famous Cryptids. Columbia University Press.
Naish, Darren. (2016). Hunting Monsters: Cryptozoology and the Reality Behind the Myths. Sirius Publications.
O’Hanlon, Redmond (1998). No Mercy: A Journey into the Heart of the Congo. New York: Vintage Books.
Ley, Willy (1941). Exotic Zoology. Viking Press.
Hagenbeck, Carl (1909). Beasts and Men. Translated by Elliot, High S. R.; Thacker, A. G. London, England: Longmans, Green, and Co.
Roy P. Mackal (1987). A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-Mbembe. New York: E.J. Brill.
Regusters, Herman A. (1982). Munger, Ned (ed.). "Mokele-Mbembe: An Investigation into Rumors Concerning a Strange Animal in the Republic of the Congo, 1981" (PDF). Munger Africana Library Notes. Pasadena: California Institute of Technology (64).
“The Last Dinosaur” [Season 3, Episode 52], MonsterQuest, History Channel, June 24, 2009.
William J. Gibbons. (2010). Mokele-Mbembe: Mystery Beast of the Congo Basin. Landisville, Pa.: Coachwhip.
Conway, John.; Kosemen, C.M.; Naish, Darren. (2013). Cryptozoologicon: Volume I.
Background Music Used:
“Precipice”, “An Evening A Lifetime”, “Looked Back Saw Nothing”, “Not Without the Rest”, “Life in Romance” and "Marxist Arrow" by Twin Musicom (twinmusicom.org)
"Blue Feather", "Lost Frontier", and "Music to Delight" by Kevin Macleod
Clips used:
• In Search of the Congo...
• Kent Hovind - Dinosaur...
• Kent Hovind - Dinosaur...
• Forbidden History I - ...
• Mokele Mbembe Sightings
• Dinosaurs may still be...
• Video
• Dinosaurs, Genesis, an...
RIP my tongue trying to pronounce some of these words.
Sorry for the weird frames that flash up for a split second every now and then in the video, I tried to fix it but to no avail. Hopefully I'll figure out how to get rid of that in future vids.
Hope you all enjoyed this one! It was a doozy to research and edit but I'm happy it's out ;)
Great and it added some comedy lol
I love it, check my page! I got some mind bending vids with tongue twisting titles. That runs amidst, in cycles;)
Collab with nativelang to get the right pronunciation
Hullabaloo was the hardest tho
In the future could you do a predictive evolution video of what would rodents raccoons, dog, and cows would evolve into if humans disappear
"These people have had no contact with the outside world for 1000's of years.",as the native stands there in her Nike tracksuit.
😵
she could have stolen them for all we know lmao.
That’s tradition village garb it’s just convergent evolution.
Not even Adidas. Truly, Africa is an undeveloped land.
@@blondbraid7986 omfg why is this so scuffed
I love the idea of those villagers raising their kids, "Remember these important life lessons child. Never run with scissors. Love your family. And when the white men come, tell them you've seen dinosaurs"
If you're into cryptozoology and like spiders, don't forget J'ba Fofi, the giant Congo spider
As a wise man once said: "A sucker is born every minute."
If Congo has dinosaurs why do the kids need to tell that to white people? That even raises further questions about where all these creature sightings come from.
@@Yatukih_001 are you kidding? There are no dinosaurs (except for the birds). The joke is that in this case, white people will pay natives for information about an imaginary creature.
@@malachisguides or, it will make them seem more dumb.
My headcannon is that Mokele-mbembe was a lone male elephant that had one of his tusks ripped out by humans, and therefore reacted agressively to all other humans.
In time his legend grew and he became a mythical creature or better yet - a vengeafull spirit of the swamp the elephant made its home.
Ah yes elephant swamp gas 🙄 they literally keep saying it’s not an elephant! Ps did you see those elephants being born without tusks recently?
My head cannon is that it is a super lizard with active camouflage that only activates when fools are near by.
I think it’s a rhino.
@@brianjensen5661 Bruh you tryna say that there’s an Indominus Rex in the congo😂
@@brianjensen5661 for me it’s a magic pterodactyl who ate too many shrooms and appears only when one man goes but no more.
Roman and Greek artists drawing an animal based entirely on someone else’s description is my favorite genre of art bc modern historians always have to figure out which animal it was supposed to be
I saw a “documentary” on this cryptid once on television as a kid and the whole time they where talking about all the supposed sightings and history of it my 7 year old mind couldn’t help but think “how can something so big be so sneaky?” Which pretty much sums up this cryptid.
I hope some artist sees this comment, and draws a dinosaur stretching its body in a hilarious way behind some vegetation to avoid being seen.
microbe not to mention if they barely stayed there for a week or that this things aquatic
Cryptkeeper The I am some artist. I hope I remember to do this.
@microbe That are completely unexplored... by whites ^^
There is actual persons that lived there you know ;)
Krankar Volund not necessarily but ok
"Its the size of an elephant, grey skin, long white tooth and a long neck."
Fuck, definitely a dinosaur
Describes some of the “researchers” fairly well though.
Definetly an Elephant
Long trunk
Y'all dump it's a basking shark of course
yes, absolutely
The Japanese video of the "lizard" is CLEARLY a swimming elephant, honestly I am shocked Trey didn’t notice. They swim like that, with their trunks up.
"Look at this Mokele-Mbembe in the river!" Video is shown.
It's an elephant, it even has its trunk out of the water. It looks A LOT like that to me.
Boat
Yes definitely, all of a sudden the shot got closer and more clear only for a split second, and there it was : elephant.
I've been missing cryptid profile so much lately
What about the Billy ape . the African unicorn. The Kamodragon . but isn't loch ness in Europe
@@osmosisjones4912 what does this have to do with the comment?
@@oaksynia7353 idk if it's even meant to be a reply lmao
Yo same
Indeed
As someone who is African (living in Botswana) I can say I have not seen any late surviving non avian dinosaurs
Keş Orangutan pretty true
YOU LIE
GIB SWAMP DINO OR ELSE ILL CALL THE SUPER CHURCH ON YOU
@@kesorangutan6170 damn that's harsh, but they do have diamonds.
*if they have nether portals everyone would be botswanan by now*
Botswana is awesome
The way you worded that made it sound like you may have seen late surving avian dinosaurs
There is a "Mokele-mbembe " in Laos too. We call it the "rainbow" as well. It's a ghost / "hyperdemensional dragon", so no you can't catch it. It's like the "Forest Spirit" in Princess Mononoke or the "Magic Stag". The reason it's called rainbow is it leaves a residue on the water/by the cave it enters/exits. It also leaves a rainbow as it ascends the sky. Hence the "rainbow" name.
I'm convinced some cryptids are the product of certain villagers not wanting to actually interact with explorers so they make up animals just to get the curious to leave them alone.
lol the visitors wouldn't even be there in the first place if it wasn't for the legends.
I believe that's what some people think happened with El Dorado.
Can't blame them, considering the genocide that was being committed in the Belgian Congo in the name of exploiting rubber. I also think that the horrific atrocities would have caused great stress to the native people, and so sparked sightings of 'monsters' as happened with werewolf hysteria in Germany after the 30 Years War, instead of it being purely a money grab.
@@bonemeal_boiI agree white people are nature's biggest mistake
Oh like moms then. "Mom why is the sky blue?". "Because god made it so" instead of figuring out why its blue.
Mokele Mbemebe: “I thought you were dead”. Cryptid Profile: “My death was greatly Exaggerated.”
It´s called "Lazarus taxon"
iTs a LivInG fOSsiL
luckily I follow you on Twitter and watch your post
“You’re supposed to be dead”
“Am I not?”
Trey: *Looking at Mokele Mbembe* So *cracks knuckles* you're the punk I've heard about
when you're looking for a post KPG dinosaur but find a new species of algae instead
*I see this as an absolute win*
It is super suspect though, that all these 'late surviving' dinos match up with the inaccurate descriptions of the day. It makes me wonder if there are any more recently spotted dino cryptids that are described like the shrinkwrapped, no feather depictions from the 90's.
Mokele Mbembe has been descripted having a air sac down his throat just like a frog, and thats a thing that we have discoverd on sauropods only like 2 years ago.. so yeah that pretty damn accurate
In Chile the "velociraptors" that have been sighted, have feathers.
The arica monster from chile is literally a feathered raptor
Semi aquatic dinosaurs would have zero use for feathers.... not all dinos had feathers....
@@luidu07 Since when?
If you met a gent giving you a beer and asking you to tell him about some fantasy critter while some really big gentlemen behind him are carrying AK-47's, you too would tell him whatever he wants to hear...pretty sure I atleast would do so.
No.
@@lucascoval828 In fact, yes.
@@trevor0245
When?
“rainbow” is actually not a bad name for a sauropod, imagine seeing a big neck arching across the sky after a storm, the body obscured by the trees
That’s what I thought, a sauropod is rainbow shaped.
Hmm...could it be the neck is also a colorful display structure to attract mates?
Ramieverse ! YES YES YES
Now I’m imagining a bioluminescent Sauropod
@@greenergrass4060 Y I S
Alternante title: Trey struggles with pronunciation and also a cryptid.
Yeah, why does he pronounce it like mokiliëm bembe and not like mokele mbembe
@Izza Kaiser ok
@Izza Kaiser no u
Why do English-speaking people always try to read everything as if it were English words? Is it that hard to check out the rules for at least some languages?
@@AntediluvianRomance i was watching a video about the Starčevo culture (Старчево) and because for convenience č is often written as c, Starčevo was put as Starcevo and the dude just kept reading it as "starsivo" urgh.... Letters represent language, not the other way around,
I remember something funny. They did an exhibition some years ago in my region in Switzerland. Their idea was to take common daily life objects, like a piece of broken cement taken from a broken wall, a 5 Swiss franks coin, etc, and to write explanations about those objects as if they were found in 3'000 BC and archeologists had to explain what they were, like we do today with ancient objects, and they purposely made mistakes like scientists can sometime do. The 5 Swiss franks coin for example features an image of an unknown shepherd. The man is wearing a medieval hood and many people here think that it is supposed to be Guillaume Tell, but there is no name on the coin and no recognisable signs like the apple or bow that could clearly define him to be Guillaume Tell. Because of the man's anonymity, it may be possible for future scientists to consider that this man is wearing clothes that people could be wearing at the time that the coin was made in. I mean, if you have a coin made in 2005 and the man can not be identified as any important person of Switzerland's history, you can theorise that it is supposed to represent the "common people". So they wrote in the little fictionnal futuristic explanation: "In 2005, as featured on that coin, men were wearing large hoods." I found it really funny, and it reminds us how cautious scientists must be.
It is interesting to have the "uncontacted primative peoples" view callenged by things like "oh yeah I saw that on TV" and "yeah we're lying for money, of course" I think it made me realise how similar we are
It's funny how all those "surviving dinosaurs" completely failed to evolve in the last millions of years, despite living in vastly changing habitats (instead of very stagnant habitats like the real living fossils).
@white christian Riiiiiight.
They grew a big tooth or horn.
I've got a theory that all species variations are preprogrammed, and reproduction just lets living things of all sorts access different genes based on what the body tells the reproductive organs their offspring might need. The funny part is that even this creationist-heavy theory basically says that an animal might look quite different compared to the same species years in the past due to changing biosphere, and thus the idea that even surviving dinosaurs would look identical to their ancestors is laughable.
Even the real living fossils have changed a lot.
Ever heard of the pygmy trait? These cryptids have them compared to their fossil counterparts.
I love the aesthetic of how we used to view dinosaurs as these fat jungle swamp lizards with mist everywhere
Yes and how so many of the cryptid dinosaurs are exactly like outdated depictions of dinosaurs in pop culture.
Well in fact, the amount of "meat" you place on dinosaurs is... really just an artistic liberty ^^
There's some indications to where the muscles were of course, but it's hard to picture exactly how large they were ^^
So, there is some palaeo-artists that says that we are staying too close to the bones ^^
Krankar Volund we must depict chunky dinosaurs.
Krankar Volund and make them cute like chunky sea lions.
Hey who knows maybe there's a fat swamp sauropod that hasn't been dug up yet.
Honestly, Africa is probably the least likely place for a sauropod to exist, since elephants and giraffes are so similar to them and fill the same ecological niches sauropods probably did in the mesozoic. If sauropods had survived the end of the cretaceous, either these mammals never would have established themselves on the same continent with them, or else would long since have outcompeted them.
People that belive in these cryptids dont care about logic or ecology or science, its just something they desperately wish was true so they ignore facts that disprove it and uphold facts that support it
That and humans are our ancestors have been there for millions of years with our sharp rocks and pointy sticks. We’ve ate a lot of large herbivores into extinction basically everywhere we spread in the last hundred thousand years or so, with like twenty times that time a sauropod would probably have been eaten into extinction.
@@joshuahadams The only question I have is, would a sauropod taste more like chicken or Ostrich?
@@kathleenwoods8416 if it’s wild and eating a lot of water plants - as supposed by most imaginations of Mokele Mbembe - it’d probably be closer to duck than chicken or ostrich. Gamey, probably a dark meat, and better slow cooked to get tender.
Mokele mbembe means *"the one who came to hear about rainbows"* trust me im a native that has no contact to the outside world ...
The fact your username is John Washington makes this comment funnier.
@@TheCrimsonIdol987 john washington is traditional african name that mean "he who has 2 eyes" or something
@@ervandrafadhlil403 You are incorrect. John does means 'he who has eyes two eyes' but Washington means 'the almighty washing machine'
*It's been so long, Cryptid Profile might as well be a cryptid itself!*
Cryptid Profile isnt a cryptid, its a barn owl
when was that last time
@@ratbat1072 no
it was a basking shark
@@DangItshere No.
It was swamp gas!
@@ninja393 No.
A guy in an ape suit!
(Edit) Of course the guy, like all of us, was already an ape to begin with.
You are absolutely correct about how "remote" African villagers make up those stories to hussle white foreigners. I'm South African and worked in gold Exploration in Sub-Saharan Africa for a number of years. I've worked in the middle of the Gabonese rainforests and in remote north-eastern Congo basin for several years. From first-hand experience I can tell you that white foreigners (those coming from countries outside of Africa) will believe anything and are treated with great hospitality because they usually come with lots of dollars or euros. The pigmy's for instance will gladly pose for photos with you as long as you pay them. It is no secret here and it is just the way things are. I laugh when I see western adventurers in documentaries try make the viewers believe that they're in wildest Africa. None of that is real. Guarenteed behind the cameras the village chiefs are busy laughing at the silly mlungu (white man).
To give you an idea of the depth of their knowledge of the outside world, if you travelled into the middle of the rainforest you will still find wooden shacks with satellite dishes on their roofs. The landscapes are littered with cellphone towers because everyone has mobile phones. You will hear more African-American music than traditional music (or at least locally adopted versions of the music), and a large portion of the youngsters imitate African-American fashion and culture. The idea that remote Africa is unaware of the rest of the world is inaccurate in a big way.
But Congo basin is a large place. Sure you didin't went to the depths of the rainforest. There is still some uncontacted tribes there
I see your point and agree, but in a way, humanity is loosing something of humanities past. Is it inhumane to let pre-stoneage peoples be pre-stoneage peoples or by contaminating their tribal cultures with modern trappings?
@@nightlightabcd Do you think it's fair that natives should say, die of curable diseases because you don't want them to be "contaminated" by modern technology? What of all knowledge permanently lost because no one in the tribe could write their stories down? Would it be wrong to teach them to write and spread their knowledge?
You mean you’re a settler?
@@ceynro4315 Immigrant, exposing rural africa to diversity.
I love vacationing to Africa, especially to cast out demons while searching for cryptids and leveraging medical supplies for questionable information. Seriously, the best. Anyone else want to go to Church?
sounds based tbh.
@@JarJarBinks4ever Based on delusion. The dinosaur part
hehe 69th like
@@M50A1 "Based, Based on delussion" is a raw line and im stealing it.
@@creditsunknown7974 You can, please do. Its too good to be used once
As a Christian I am so ashamed of those men. Damn it man I wanted dinosaurs to be alive ever since a kid but those men twisting and using religion like that is disgusting. It probably was a incredible species at a time but is left undiscovered or extinct definitely not a dinosaur or in the sense they are describing it as.
12:03
"Dude you made those lions have long necks"
"Yeah im being CREATIVE, Imhotep."
"You dont think someoens gonna mistake that for a real animal?"
"What idiot would do that?"
daffyishere very sad to hear that the long necked lions of Africa have been reduced to minuscule populations with so few people knowing 😔
@@funnyswangoosething5088 I like your cut of sarcasm, g.
*Young earth creationists
One thing that makes this funny is that there's probably a parallel universe where every single cryptid is real...but not animals
"Dr. ImACryptozooligist said that tribesmen saw the LION wading by the water's edge. The name seems to have no particular meaning whatsoever."
Hilarious!
Interestingly, Marco Polo defined the unicorn, with the same description.
That animal was later named Rhinoceros.
9:19 😂 that was my favorite part. So adorable
Alteori ? It's was unexpected to see you here
LMAO!!
President: “it actually just means rainbow”
Advisor: “what are you doing?! think of the tourism money”
President: “earlier I was lying, it actually means whatever meaning will get rich foreigners to come to my district and spend their money”
Pulling Scooby-Doo style schemes to rip off gullible tourists sounds like a great way to make a living.
@@joshuahadams It also sounds like a lovely sitcom that I would watch
plot twist: convergent evolution produces a creature that looks just like (but entirely unrelated to) the 19th century idea of a brontosaurus
It'll turn out to be a sub-species of Tenrec no doubt...
or in case of Darren naish' s version an giant long necked tortoise.
Basking shark crawled back on land
Convergent evolution with nonexistent animals needs its own name
That would be hilarious,
When will you go over the famous cryptid the Alaskan Bull Worm.
Damn that critter
IT'S BIG, SCARY, AND PINK!
@@merrittanimation7721 So's Patrick's bellybutton but I ain't afraid a' that neither.
@@merrittanimation7721 Michael: *grins at the camera*
Those Tribes probably have more money then i do just by trolling the shit out of old suburban boomers
Acting like a Scooby-Doo antagonist to scam rich white dudes sounds like a great job.
Scamming boomers hunting made up Animals must be a hysterical job
your offensive towards old people, reported
"boomer lol, i am so funny" reminder: you'll get older aswell and probably be called that and get that kind of shit your doing happen to you
@@mobythelion3882 ok Boomer
Speaking of the Congo. Have you considered tackling the giant spiders of the Congo, the Jba fofi? That could be an interesting episode.
Easy. Spiders of giant size are scientigically impossible
@@user-db9hi7uu3n Oh, I know, but I would like for him to go over the lore, sighting and the like. I believe another youtuber did a great video on it - Polarbear, I believe? But I would love to see TREY have a crack at it.
One of the biggest red flags for "late surviving non avian dinosaur" cryptids is the fact that the cryptids resemble how people thought dinos looked back then. You'd think that if these creatures were real they would have been described with features that hadn't been discovered about dinos yet
Yeah, I'm no expert on this sort of thing but given modern biodiversity and the sheer endless time span for which dinosaurs existed, the likelihood of a surviving dinosaur being a super recognizable one that we have fossils for is just so low.
Sharks and crocodiles are said to have changed very little since the dinosaurs. Just saying.
@@justbenelson that doesn't mean anything because my point is about the cryptids resembling highly outdated ideas. Also sharks and crocodiles have changed a lot since then
@@justbenelson According to people who don’t know anything about ancient crocs or sharks
people didnt know shit about dinos back then.
"isolated" African tribes full on trolling white scientists is my new favorite historical trope
Bullshitting outsiders to make money is pretty standard third-world shit from what I hear.
Like some guys who were in Operation Iraqi Freedom said they provided a water pump to a village that was asking for one, who then sold the one they were given before going back to saying they need a water pump.
Less "scientists", more "fringe religious folks wanting their beliefs validated, no matter how unreasonable".
@@Bluecho4 or, like celebrity scientists, they have a degree in something completely unrelated to whatever they're claiming to be an authority in.
Actual cultural anthropology helps deal with that kind of stuff. Something those "scientist" creationist morons don't seem to know that much about.
It works out nicely when they give you a lineup of pictures to choose from. Eventually some people will choose the one you are looking for.
I love this series, it really sheds light on how nutty the world of cryptozoology really is. I had no idea it was such a rabbit hole of lunacy.
There's genuinely something magical about having my childhood hopes and dreams curb-stomped. Bravo, good sir.
Haha I'm right there with you. As a kid, hell even as an adult, I definitely *wanted* these things to be real, but at the same time it is refreshing to see people dig a little bit under the surface and expose what little evidence there actually is on the subject, and to see how here-say can be stretched into an entire creature profile. I still believe in a world filled with mystery and wonder, but it is, unfortunately, one without sauropods lol.
"Virtually no contact with the outside world..." *Camera pans over their fluorescent green flip-flops*
hey, aren't you the half life guy
@@Hazelpupps despite my best efforts
Africa Pre-release Moment
Yeah, all those people wearing brightly colored, freshly manufactured clothing.
"They are all a buncha weirdos"
I mean, at their core, is not almost every scientist a weirdo to some degree?
"UNQUALIFIED weirdos"
*Terror*
I appreciate this
There’s a difference between a history major who wears their extremely detailed civil war 3rd regiment uniform with era appropriate revolver and Sabre
And a guy who shows up to civil war reenactments who acts like the wars still going on constantly shouting THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!!
Love the random Congolese man who wasn't dealing with their shit, haha, "It's a Brontosaurus, I saw it on the TV" I want to believe he's sitting there watching Walking with Dinosaurs in preperation for dealing with these loons.
What an absolute icon.
A good use of time.
Maybe he was just excited to finally meet someone who liked dinosaurs as much as him, imagine how crushing it mist have been when he learned these were creationists,
I wasn't expecting to see worthikids art in here!! He did a wonderful job, and this was a wonderful video. I'm glad that you discussed the racism/colonialism part, I feel like that isn't mentioned enough when discussing cryptids like these.
Imagine telling a native he’s wrong when speaking HIS language lol
Seriously! That's like a new level of Colonial Paternalist racism right there.
@@pompe221 we’re used to it lol
Whitesplaining, no?
@@AlbertaGeek that so?
That's white people for ya
The cool dinosaur man has gifted us with another masterpiece
Edit: thanks for getting me more likes then Trey lol
God bless your trey!
I’d like to say I’m trey but no lol I’m just a very big fan
We can make a religion out of this
That's priceless
all hail dinosaur man and his great videos!
I'll tell you about a very interesting experience I had regarding cryptids. One of my cousins lives in New Zealand, and I went to visit him during the Christmas Holiday. One day I was out shopping for groceries from a nearby store and as I was walking back home, my cousin came running to me. He told me he saw a "large bird of prey" circling around his area. He showed me footage he had captured of the animal. I asked him what it could be. He said a Haast's eagle, which was a species of eagle that did actually exist in New Zealand, but was driven to extinction by humans hunting them. I was skeptical, but he was not, and so he told the local newspaper about it. However later on it just turned out to be a wedge tailed eagle kept by some dude as an exotic pet that escaped and got lost. Lol.
No it was clearly a Haasts eegle disguised as a wedge tailed eegle to advoid being discovered
Most Biologists believe it's elephants crossing the river, they raise their trunks up out of the river, which looks like a long neck from a distance. They have taken pictures of elephants and low behold they look just like a dinosaur, that is until they step out of the river.
I meant if they wanted to take a picture of African dinosaurs that are still living, they could just take a picture of an ostrich or other African birds.
I miss when he had the “if it was real” segment where he went into detail about what it could be
Same ;(
Definitely barn owl
@@methanesulfonic Nah it was a basking shark lol
I feel like it wasn't included due to the fact the claim is largely just "there's a sauropod in the jungle" with not many other quirks to build into a speculative situation. Plus, there were illustrations that seem to be a good way of conveying the concept of the hypothetical animal
he hasnt done that since the second one
“I call dinosaurs, Missionary lizards”
Please nobody take this out of context
"The lusty argonian maid" returns.
@@icantpretend726 🔫👁👄👁👉
@@icantpretend726 nut
tt317 *MEGANUT*
Ah, so he IS a scaley!
A couple years ago I watched a documentary about mokele-mbembe. They set up bait and monitored it for several days. After reviewing the footage they concluded that mokele-mbembe is most likely an elephant and people mistook it's trunk as a neck and were too scared to check what it actually was. (The cameras showed elephants eating the bait)
20 years ago, I was driving through a small town in Arkansas where there were “sightings” of ivory billed woodpeckers, and there were billboards, shops, etc., all perpetuating the myth that they have a population of these woodpeckers that live there. No confirmed sightings have every came out of that town.
Locals around Loch Ness have shops just to sell monster merchandise.
It’s not just African locals that will do this. It’s a natural human phenomenon that happens all around the world.
White men want to find a dinosaur.
Tribespeople: I can milk you
Milk it
Africans: Get jebaited, ya virgin
And they say the tribesmen are the dumb ones. Lmao
I like your profile pic she's one of my favorite characters.
@Dale Gribble And yet it seems their Charisma was higher than our Intelligence.
"These People had had almost no contact with the outside world"
The very 80's looking polyester jacket that girl is wearing would say otherwise.......
I must say, he's looks good in that.
"Almost"
No no, That is a traditional tribal polyester jacket, No cintact
@@noriyakigumble3011 ooooo daamn so youre saying they made it out of dinosaur skin? OMG😱😱😱 DINO CONFIRMED???!!!!1!!!!!!!!uno!!!
How dare you question her ritualistic running fashion 😂😂
There’s an SCP article based on this actually! Its a really cool read and ties into this folklore. Also if Trey hasn’t yet, he would probably enjoy some of the more scientific and biology based SCPs rather than the more fantastical ones.
Which one? I gotta look it up.
@@TheChieftain1117 SCP-1265
Im not positive though, but it's what popped up when I researched SCP Mokele-mbembe
Man I gotta say I think this is my favorite one of your videos yet. I've been watching your videos since I was 11 because you introduced me to ideas, images, and ways of looking a prehistory and other subjects that I had never imagined. Now that've come back a little older now I can't help but notice that the quality of your videos has really sky rocketed through the roof dude, there are so many interesting effects, sounds, and images you put in to really make it creative and original to a point where it's as beautiful and fun to watch as when I first found your channel. Thank you Trey, Keep up the great work.
27:22 Dude I can't believe you brought up Kent Hovind, I didn't even realize he was famous. He used to do bullshit lectures at my church when I was a kid and would essentially just shut down our ability to wonder about the cosmos, I grew up thinking dinos weren't interesting because they were just from the times of Noah. He would also give out comic books to the kids that would be all about this cool kid who stands up against the teacher in school & protests evolution and gets all the kids to do a class walk-out. It actually brainwashed me into doing that shit when I was in the 2nd grade, I raised my hand and told the teacher that the Sabertooth Tiger didn't go extinct 10,000 years ago because the earth was created only 6,000 years ago. So yeah fuck that guy, I want my childhood braincells back.
Spaghetti Lee at least you managed to snap out from that mindset, a lot of other people simply entrenched further.
Back when I was about 10 years old (I'm 15 now), I was browsing UA-cam. Most of what I watched back then related to zoology and paleontology. I was a pretty scientifically-literate kid. I knew how evolution worked and how life was classified and how we dated rocks. As I was looking for something to watch, I stumbled upon a video by a Creationist (I think it was Kent Hovind). It was entitled 'A Children's Talk about Dinosaurs' or something similar. I was curious and clicked on it. At the time, I didn't know about Creationists. The only Creationist I knew about was Richard Owen, whom I considered a villain and a crook. My dad had told me that there were some people who didn't believe in evolution, but my image of them was that they were just Amazonian tribesmen or something, not a man wearing a suit and boasting a degree.
Hovind started off his talk by telling the children who were seated in front of him about a number of famous dinosaurs--so Stegosaurus, Brontosaurus, T. rex, etc. Now, I knew all of this already, and I was about to click away until Hovind said, '....But there's one thing I don't like about the Stegosaurus.' I thought this was a strange thing for a paleontologist to say, so I continued to watch, and at the end of his description of each dinosaurian genus, he said, '....But there's one thing I don't like about [dinosaur].' After he had described something like 6 genera, he said that what he didn't like was how people said that dinosaurs lived 'millions of years ago'. When I heard this, I though Hovind was going to go into detail about geological time periods and how laymen think of all dinosaurs as having lived at the same time. Instead I heard about how there were still dinosaurs alive today or in the recent past. One example he gave was the basking shark Trey talked about in one of his videos. I was already skeptical of these claims. But when Hovind said that this 'disproved evolution' and thus 'proved the Bible to be true', I knew he was spewing malarkey from his deceitful mouth--and to children no less! He ended off by saying that when you die you are going to go to Heaven or Hell, and you want to be going upstairs. According to him, the key was to think the Earth was 4000 years old. It was a strange experience.
I began to learn more and more about the religious right and Creationists, and the more I knew of them, the more I detested their leaders. If they got their way, they would declare their version of Christianity the official religion of the United States, ban homosexuality, and teach all children that the Earth is 4000 years old. Make no mistake, these people are dangerous. They are a threat! I consider them Christian Al Qaeda. Creationists are just a lot more subtle.
I was never religious but once was fascinated by this channel "spirit science.". Animated videos about spiritual stuff chachrAs. Healing crystals stuff like that for a while I actually believed that stuff I don't anymore but I don't hate it. Ok maybe a little but I don't hate the channel
@@Lumberjack_king Me, too. Glad to see that someone else is out there like me. The Human History episode was what ticked me off--the one that said Jews were from space.
@@ZephLodwick I actually can't really remember any episode that I hated. I only remember a few things about it. But I mostly forgot about it
I still remember reading Abominable Science and how it summarized the shit-show that was creationists searching for Mokele Mbembe. It‘s hilarious how easily the natives were able to rip them off and build a tourism industry around gullible people.
Not all heroes wear capes
"Extraordinary! And you people see these beasts everywhere?"
"Oh sure yeah... totally... whatever you want, has a horn whatever. You bringin more food?"
"Oh but of course... hehehe..."
"Oh thank you sooo much, your monster's right over there... hehehe..."
Its el dorado all over again
Lol gullible idiots in medieval times believed there used to be giant flying reptiles.
@@joeb8935 more like el saurado
I suspect some of the stories from locals about the dinosuars may have been completly made up just to mess with foreigners, If some guy comes into your village from hunderads of miles away and asks you if youve seen some monster youve never heard of thats just called "rainbow", it could be very tempting to just fuck with the guy and say "Yeh sure i saw a huge dinosaur down the lake wow it was really scary"
native man: " it means rainbow"
Roy Mackal: " I'm sorry!? can't you speak your own language probably. we paid several people who gave us the real translation!
* turns towards his colleagues * this man is clearly uneducated. "
basically what happened , other words.
Oh, so much gold here.
"These people in western-style clothing made from a mix of synthetics and clearly-not-locally-grown cotton has clearly had no contact with the outside world."
"Quick, the stupid Wazungu is coming, hide the smartphones!"
"These villagers make remarably detailed pictures of Mokele-Membe." I've seen people make remarkably detailed pictures of catgirls. Without even having a monetary incentive to try to trick me they exist.
And, as I commented in the Ropen video: What is it with creationist types and trying to prove surviving non-avian dinosaurs? What I call UGL (Underwear Gnome Logic).
Dinosaurs>???>Jesus
Their train of thought is: Dinosaurs -> Evolution isn't real/The Earth isn't as old as experts say it is -> the Bible can be taken literally when it comes to evolution -> the Bible can be taken literally when it comes to everything else -> Jesus
It's ridiculous and grasping for straws of course but that's the thought process those people have when it comes to "proving" creationism.
@@TheSnowBallet Indeed. The "???" part is mainly between the first and second step of your outline there.
If I am sounding sarcastic, it's because I am sarcastic, but against creationist, not you, my good fellow.
Jesus>Dinosaurs>???
Ftfy 🙏
It isn't.
Major Creationist organizations only reference it in a rhetorical sense, I.E. as _possible_ evidence contra both a common cultural evolutionary narrative, and to the expectation that the form of plant and animal lineages should be fluid over( presumed) vast eons of time, but in no way unexpected to their own. They would both happily and as an official stance of their organizations agree that the addition of yet one more little changed 'living fossil' to the many already known is of little practical effect.
As a matter of fact, one 'Answers in Genesis' affiliated group even included such dinosaur related claims in a quite extensive volume of arguments they advise Creationists to _not_ use!
... so what you're saying is catgirls exist?
"BuT wHy wOuLd ThEy LiE??" Probably because it's hilarious as well, id totally point at a stegasaurus or smth and be like oh yeah saw that last week
Especially if the idiots give me a beer and threaten me if I say I don’t know what they’re talking about
Don’t forget the money that can be earned by taking advantage of the naive foreigner. They can earn plenty of cash just by serving as their “guide” on a wild goose chase for a monster that doesn’t exist.
Exploration of remote swamps in the future can more easily accomplished with drones from a base camp in a more accessible location-and perhaps one at a great distance, if large drones are employed.
You bringing up the Young Earth Creationists gave me a flashback to when I had questions about dinosaurs and how they fit in if they didn't exist during humans. A dude at my grandparents' church gave me a children's book (yes, a CHILDRENS BOOK) discussing how scientists lie about how old bones are as part of some large conspiracy and how dinosaurs lived alongside humans. Kind of scary if you think about it.
people are like: omg living dinosaurs in africa
meanwhile birds: am I a joke to you
The more I learn about Chickens, the more I realize that Dinosaurs never went extinct. God just shrunk them so that we wouldn't get eaten like the first 5 minutes of a Jurassic Park movie. XD
Ostriches?
people are like: dinosaurs could still exist in Africa!
meanwhile oongo mbongbimbm hunting rhinos and elephants to extinction: am I a joke to you?
No, both are wonderous creatures
Chicken in my back yard: rawr OwO
"Pygmies that live by a lake in the saharan desert"
..........what?
I didn't realize The Onion existed in 1920.
There are actually quite a few large lakes in the Sahara Desert, the Lakes of Ounianga in Chad is the first returned by Google. And living in the Sahara would be a lot easier by the lakes.
LCwavesAtYa Pygmies don’t live in the Sahara though as far as I know
@@jegvids101 ... or do they? *♩ ♪ ♫ ♬Vsauce music♩♭ ♪♯*
Batwa Pygmies live in desert lake regions. Though in the last 100 years the Bantu have mostly decimated them, there was once a sizable number of Batwa in the Sahara.
@Hernando Malinche Restrained by what, chains? Why are they trapped in the forests?
I watched a documentary on this and they showed some photos that were said to be the dinosaur, turned out they were photos of elephants crossing the river. Years ago, people use to think elephants didn't go into deep water, of course that was proven wrong, pointing out, in other parts of Africa and India, elephants did cross rivers.
I'm surprised that I've only seen 1 comment in relation to the Monsterverse. (For context, Mokele-Mbembe is considered one of the many "Titans" that were contained and studied by Monarch alongside Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Kong, and Ghidorah, when they were all subsequently awakened and wreaked havoc after Ghidorah had defeated both Rodan and Godzilla in Mexico, regrowing his severed left head in the process. Titanus Mokele-Mbembe [The name "Titanus" is essentially the genus that Monarch assigns to all the titans in their records] didn't have a big cameo in the movie, "King Of The Monsters", but rather had a small but very interesting and detailed sequence during the movie scene in which Ghidorah unleashed his Alpha Call and awakened all the titans)
*in the King Of The Monsters Novel, I forgot to add that at the end, lol
The "Swimming" Mokele Mbemebe footage looks like an elephant to me (It kinda looks like you can see ears and a trunk)
Exactly what I saw...
I completely agree. Cryptozoology is just pathetic, I honestly can`t believe I used to believe this stuff actually existed.
@@trystenlyth1139 I wouldn't go that far. There are some cryptids that I do think may have basis in truth or are out there. But this one.....yeah its pretty obvious that its not a real thing. But other cryptids that when you line up certain details, point to a real animal or animals.
Do you mean the footage at 9:12? Yeah that is an elephant. I honestly don't know how anyone could mistake it for something else. I mean unless one would be uneducated on African fauna and did not know that elephants can and do swim.
@@omggiiirl2077 I would, we don't need cryptozoology to discover yet undiscovered animals. Let zoologists who've actually studied the biology of animals do it.
The elusive cryptid whom the natives call "the Trey" has emerged again
@Drake Petty proof of existence??? Bah, you are such liars, obvs the Trey is just a barn owl
@@lial2143 No he's a basking shark.
@@merrittanimation7721 no it's bumper for boats
@Drake Petty whatever... I guess, until the tests on the supposed the Trey's pink hairs that were found some time ago are done, we'll never know...
Drake Petty Outsiders will pay handsomely to hear of the elusive beast...
every single one of these ends with pulling the mask off the scooby doo monster and saying "OH YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISTS, AT IT AGAIN"
It's ridiculous how much work you put in your videos. Greatly appreciate that, they're so good!!
19'th Century Explorer about to get epically prank'd: "You, native, what can you tell me about the strange creatures inhabit this land?"
Kabunji, the absolute madlad:
Kabunji: *_"I'm aboutta do what's called a pro-gamer move."_*
Several random Congolese villagers wearing second hand Western clothing
Wealthy white Creationist tourists: lOok aT tHIs tRiBe tHaT HaS nO cOnTaCT WitH tHe oUtSiDe wOrLd
i have ALWAYS thought about that in these freaking TV docu-series XD
@@TsukiHikariOkami THEY EVEN HAD TV's!!
@@rommdan2716 convergently evolved TVs
João Pedro Moraes Look how primitive they are! They don’t even have HBO!
@@Kaanfight That makes them sound like they're more advanced than us all
Wait Ludwig??? “What is up BOYS, today we are going to be talking about some dinosaur in the jungle, we got any dinos in chat, any dinos in chat.”
6:52 that description literally describes the behavior of a hippo...
If dinosaurs were still alive, I’d probably get myself killed trying to boop one’s snoot.
Chickens are Dinosaurs, go boop that snoot!
Boop your neighborhood crow 👍
Give a pigeon or seagull a nice head Scratch and then boop.
Bright, no. Don’t bring one back just to boop it
I’d be trying to tame a spino
My favorite thing I heard from a creationist is when I asked one how a living dinosaur would disprove evolution, and he responded back by saying it would because evolutionists claim dinosaurs went extinct because they evolved into birds.
Flat earth people still exist
"It means, 'He who stops the Reading Rainbow'."
Awww piss. There goes the documentary.
Based on how the description is very Rhino-like and how Rhinos are native to that same area, if it is real, it might just be a Rhino. I mean it was even pointed out in the video that some people identified it as a rhino rather than a dino
I love how Trey points out the racism and colonialism of a lot of these "cryptid" and ancient alien cases. It affects these theories a lot more than you'd think and good on him for bringing it up despite it being "uncomfortable"!
Also noticed it tends to happen with ancient ruins and monuments, their origins are generally more questioned when it's not a European ruin or something
muh colonialism!! 😢
basically every cryptid :
"it's a crocodile!"
"is it big?"
"yes it is two men big"
"okay so about 20 metres right"
"um no, it's about this wid..."
"does it have tail?"
"yes"
"how long is it?"
"it's normal. it looks like crocodile's tail"
"whoa! really? it's 5 metres long and jagged like stegosaur's tail? it's a new discovery!"
"you are so weird, sir"
Reckon they are neurodivergent and easily gullible?
@@dubbula Am neurodivergent and know a lot of neurodivergent people. Can safely say from experience no WAY any of us able enough to go on a jungle expedition would also believe young Earth creationism.
@@strionic770 yea I'm neurodivergent as well and my imagination runs wild 😂 as for the creationist yea I can understand
@@dubbula In my experience neurotypicals are the more gullible ones. They don't like it when you ask questions and give answers like "it's just like that because it is"
@@rottenfiggy that's so true when you ask why and dig they yell and bully you into taking their opinions or rules
Congolese researchers exploring the unexplored parts of Colorado, discovering evidence of the slide rock bolter
Slide Rock Bolter?
The subtitles were killer. I couldn't stop laughing! Pay the subtitle person an extra wage!
I forgot to add: It was obviously a barn owl.
Basking shark.
21:17 Missionaries: Look at these primitive uncontacted tribesmen living outside civilization without any outside influence!
Me: Dude, they're wearing modern sports jackets. 🤦♀️
No shit.
26:58 Ah, my favorite book: The Java Script Source.
I remember hearing of these kind of stories when I was younger, and be filled with wonder, optimistic and naive as I was... now, as these stories are scrutinized, and the truth of them is revealed, though I appreciate the truth, it saddens me... not just that these creatures aren't out there, but that there are so many that intentionally deceive to make people think they are. If they did it as a joke to get a laugh, I could forgive that, but that they were intentionally trying to use such stories to fool people into buying into their cultish beliefs, I have no respect for that.
Thank you Trey, another amazing video, can't wait to see what you dig up in the future... perhaps Atlantis? -'J
I was thinking Mokele-mbembe would just be an overgrown elephant. I was wrong.
Just ran out of stuff to watch, perfect timing
Same bro
I didn’t know what to do then this show up probably will watch anime it one of thos time when you got so many option but you can’t choose what it like being in a buffet but you don’t know where to start
If heaven existed he would be heaven sent.
I feel this bro
The uncontacted african tribesman that have modern clothes, modern technology and modern knowledge. Haha, how did he seriously believe that when they are looking at the camera's eye, not attacking them on sight, willing to relacionate and have modern clothes?
"oh shit here come the whites with the cameras, get ready for the Wild Tribe routine folks"
in defense to the book by Redmond O'Hanlon, he is an avid naturalist and very well knew that these were mere legends and stories made up by previous explorers. his book is more about the adventure of the journey, while the quest for the creature serves more as a comedic driving force. which is also why he is so honest in the reaction of the locals that it's just to make money. also highly recommend his books about the Amazon, Borneo and the one set in the Congo, Super fun read!
Exactly my thoughts. I read 'Congo Journey' over one weekend, despite its thickness. All his books are great!
"primitives" swindling the "civilize" men. that is funny
Small town people all over the world love to send rich city people on monster hunts. Warms my heart.
@@LimeyLassen As someone who technically lives in subburbia, yeah, we need the failure and waste of money.
In this case it is the other way around:
Civilized Congolese swindeling western primitives.
You have to be smart to survive living in a jungle. Amazing how often these people are seen as stupid.
@@overlorddante It's racism.
The expeditioners: I came looking for *dinosaur* and I found *green algae.*
Dr. Polaris has a series on the living dinosaurs of the Congo. They're quite good and for the Mokele he concludes that it and the Emela developed out of memories of Rhinos that used to inhabit the area when it was tropical grassland.
The funny part is that these people keep coming to Africa trying to find a living dinosaur and all they do is give the locals a ton of money whom they probably don't like.
Love how he pronounces german names worse than african fantastic beasts:D
Also, if dinosaurs really did exist with humans, we would've found dinosaur fossils WAY younger than 65 million years by now.
93Monstermike well that argument doesn’t really work due to not much paleontology being done in Africa
The problem with these guys is that they don't believe in fossil dating. Since they think the world is about 6000 years old. Which is ironically younger than the oldest parts of the bible.
That's a good rule that has exceptions. The South American Bush dog was previously known by fossils dating from before the great American interchange. It was thought they were extinct at that time.
Only later, it was found they were living to this day.
Do you want Trey the Explainer to make a review of the BBC show Walking with Dinosaurs?
@@sohopedeco That's.... not exactly relevant.
There's a difference between a small, rare mammal thought to be extinct for a few thousand years and a massive reptile being extinct for tens of millions of years.
you did your best with the German Trey, you did your best
Ich weiß es zu schätzen, dass er es wenigstens versucht hat.