It's heartbreaking that he just tells everyone else "bye", except for his mother... She hugs him and he turns to look at her. For some reason I think it's because he wants to memorize his mother, in case he won't come back. And when you know he dies... It's just... I can't. Shows the love between a son and a mother.
In "Here Beneath The North Star" you can see that his family lost two other sons, too (Voitto and Eero) in WW2 who fell in the battlefield only days apart and returned home in zink coffins in the same train car... Vilho Koskela being the character connecting "Unknown Soldier" and "Here Beneath The North Star" (which tells the story of his family from 1890s until 1950s). In Täällä Pohjantähden Alla, the family chronicle when news of Vilho falling in the battle reach Koskela, his father Akseli cries in the horse stable, sitting on top of an upside down fodder tub. One of the emotionally heaviest scenes of the 2007-09 remake movies of TPA
@@ahakutti.5730 Not the first time I made this mistake 🙈 In both generations (and books) the main character (Akseli and Vilho) has two brothers and I always accidentally call Vilho's brothers with his dead uncles' names... (Vilho has 3rd, much younger brother but he's like 8 when WW2 starts and I always forget he exists because he's such a background character until the last chapters of TPA)
he was one my favorite characters outside of Antti/Rokka. this scene by the way, was not in my English version of movie. koskela has that quiet humility and self-sacrificing integrity which I admire so much in a man.
@@mr.c6324 The series also didn't have some scenes shown in the original extended cut of the movie, which was a bit weird and also disappointing considering the total runtime of the series way outlasts the original Finnish cut.
This is from the miniseries version (6 episodes? I think) of Tuntematon Sotilas, edited from the same material as the 2016 movie. Either Netflix or HBO Max provides the miniseries version in english-speaking countries
It’s so nice that they included these characters from Koskela’s family. The father shown here is actually the main character in a separate trilogy of books.
Disappointing to see the way they portrayed Vilhos father here. Like the writers never opened Väinö Linnas books. Akseli Koskela was immensely proud of his sons in the front and even toyed with the idea of going with them. That was an important point of his character arc. Here he is just rendered as a spiteful old man…
Pelkkänä TV-elokuvana tuo on ihan hyvä kuvaus Koskelan lähdöstä sotaan, sitoo hänen hahmonsa vaikka siihen juppottelu kohtaukseen ja muutenkin hänen läheiseen suhteeseen miehistöön.
@@psynque Kyllä, mutta ois pitäny paremmin kuvata perhettä jos oot kahtonu täällä pohjantähden alla niin koskelan isä on ihan eri persoona ja täysin eri näköinenkin muuten kyllä 5/5 lehva
@@CEO_Of_Antisemitism1488 Juu mutta valtaosa tämän elokuvan katsoneista ei ole lukenut Pohjatähteä. Jos tässä olisi kuvattu Akseli vanhat vihat unohtaneena ei Vilhon käytös olisi osunut ollenkaan. Tietysti kirjojen kokonaisuudessa se nivoutuu yhteen mutta ei 90 minuutin elokuvassa.
@@psynque Ottaen huomioon että Linna kirjoitti Tuntemattoman ensin ja TPA vasta myöhemmin, olisi Louhimiehen nimenomaan pitänyt ottaa huomioon Akselin luonne ja hahmonkehitys TPAssa eikä tehdä hänestä vanhaa jupisevaa sosialistiukkoa joka suunilleen sylkee poikansa kengille kun tämä on lähdössä puolustamaan isänmaata. Kun näin tämän kohtauksen ensi kerran, luulin että se jupiseva ukko on Vilhon vaari Juhani (Jussi) ja ihmettelin miten hän on vielä elossa Tuntemattomassa vaikka kuolee Täällä Pohjantähden Alla jo kun Vilho ja veljet ovat jotain 12-16v... Sitten tajusin että kyseessä ihan paskasti kirjoitettu Akseli 🤦🏽♂️
It isn’t 😀. As half tavastian, half Karelian I can tell you that Karelians are very talkative but tavastians are not quiet either. Karelians show more feelings, tavastians rather not, and that’s why they are quiet in this scene. Too many feelings.
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It's heartbreaking that he just tells everyone else "bye", except for his mother... She hugs him and he turns to look at her. For some reason I think it's because he wants to memorize his mother, in case he won't come back. And when you know he dies... It's just... I can't. Shows the love between a son and a mother.
im not crying.. you are..
In "Here Beneath The North Star" you can see that his family lost two other sons, too (Voitto and Eero) in WW2 who fell in the battlefield only days apart and returned home in zink coffins in the same train car...
Vilho Koskela being the character connecting "Unknown Soldier" and "Here Beneath The North Star" (which tells the story of his family from 1890s until 1950s).
In Täällä Pohjantähden Alla, the family chronicle when news of Vilho falling in the battle reach Koskela, his father Akseli cries in the horse stable, sitting on top of an upside down fodder tub.
One of the emotionally heaviest scenes of the 2007-09 remake movies of TPA
@@mrj.kottari8453 I think you got the names wrong. August and Aleksi were brothers of Akseli. Vilho's brothers were Voitto and Eero.
@@ahakutti.5730
Not the first time I made this mistake 🙈
In both generations (and books) the main character (Akseli and Vilho) has two brothers and I always accidentally call Vilho's brothers with his dead uncles' names...
(Vilho has 3rd, much younger brother but he's like 8 when WW2 starts and I always forget he exists because he's such a background character until the last chapters of TPA)
he was one my favorite characters outside of Antti/Rokka. this scene by the way, was not in my English version of movie.
koskela has that quiet humility and self-sacrificing integrity which I admire so much in a man.
Yeah this scene was only on the series made of tuntematon sotilas. I highly recommend! Manu scenes which arent included in movie are there
@@mr.c6324 The series also didn't have some scenes shown in the original extended cut of the movie, which was a bit weird and also disappointing considering the total runtime of the series way outlasts the original Finnish cut.
Honkajoki is my favourite
This is from the miniseries version (6 episodes? I think) of Tuntematon Sotilas, edited from the same material as the 2016 movie.
Either Netflix or HBO Max provides the miniseries version in english-speaking countries
It’s so nice that they included these characters from Koskela’s family. The father shown here is actually the main character in a separate trilogy of books.
Yeah. This scene got Akselis character so wrong tho.
But its not even close to actually being his father lol way different from the book
@@Hmt2000
First I thought it's suppose to be Vilho's granfather Jussi, even though he dies in "Here Beneath The North Star" when his grandsons are
Disappointing to see the way they portrayed Vilhos father here. Like the writers never opened Väinö Linnas books. Akseli Koskela was immensely proud of his sons in the front and even toyed with the idea of going with them. That was an important point of his character arc. Here he is just rendered as a spiteful old man…
Yep and he wasnt as red anymore back then.
Pelkkänä TV-elokuvana tuo on ihan hyvä kuvaus Koskelan lähdöstä sotaan, sitoo hänen hahmonsa vaikka siihen juppottelu kohtaukseen ja muutenkin hänen läheiseen suhteeseen miehistöön.
@@psynque Kyllä, mutta ois pitäny paremmin kuvata perhettä jos oot kahtonu täällä pohjantähden alla niin koskelan isä on ihan eri persoona ja täysin eri näköinenkin muuten kyllä 5/5 lehva
@@CEO_Of_Antisemitism1488 Juu mutta valtaosa tämän elokuvan katsoneista ei ole lukenut Pohjatähteä. Jos tässä olisi kuvattu Akseli vanhat vihat unohtaneena ei Vilhon käytös olisi osunut ollenkaan. Tietysti kirjojen kokonaisuudessa se nivoutuu yhteen mutta ei 90 minuutin elokuvassa.
@@psynque
Ottaen huomioon että Linna kirjoitti Tuntemattoman ensin ja TPA vasta myöhemmin, olisi Louhimiehen nimenomaan pitänyt ottaa huomioon Akselin luonne ja hahmonkehitys TPAssa eikä tehdä hänestä vanhaa jupisevaa sosialistiukkoa joka suunilleen sylkee poikansa kengille kun tämä on lähdössä puolustamaan isänmaata.
Kun näin tämän kohtauksen ensi kerran, luulin että se jupiseva ukko on Vilhon vaari Juhani (Jussi) ja ihmettelin miten hän on vielä elossa Tuntemattomassa vaikka kuolee Täällä Pohjantähden Alla jo kun Vilho ja veljet ovat jotain 12-16v...
Sitten tajusin että kyseessä ihan paskasti kirjoitettu Akseli 🤦🏽♂️
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This was not in the English version of the film. Is this the Director's Cut?
probably from the 5x50min miniseries
Extended series which is way better than the too short film.
@@nordicchad9669 no he was in the movie too
@@mattssonfelix3882
He meant this scene. In the theatrical release we only see the scene of Koskela eating bread.
@@Pikkabuu I understood that, but no, this scene was in the og movie, i would know as i saw it in the movies, and i have the movie on dvd
That dinner he is having is so finnish
It isn’t 😀. As half tavastian, half Karelian I can tell you that Karelians are very talkative but tavastians are not quiet either. Karelians show more feelings, tavastians rather not, and that’s why they are quiet in this scene. Too many feelings.
Too talkative to be an average Finnish male, otherwise ok.
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Tfw tavastian. We live in a tavastia
I think the joke is that Tavastian folks are people of few words...
Onpa outo kohtaus, ei tuollaista ole kummassakaan Tuntemattomassa sotilaassa eikä Täällä pohjantähden alla.
siinä sarjassa tästä elokuvasta näkyy tämäkin kohtaus, itsekkin myöhemmin näin paljon uutta
eli jos sarjana tämän elokuvan katsoo
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