Most of us were unfamiliar with Autism when this was made; the diagnosis was just entering public awareness. This movie was HUGELY responsible for the condition being widely understood & appreciated.
Widely understood and appreciated? I must be living on a different planet. It is true that the movie created awareness for the condition but I wouldn't go much further than that.
@@mobileore Please....how old are you? I was 18 years old when this came out. It was pretty realistic. No one talked about Autism back then in movies and most don't now;)
One of my favorite movies, Hoffman won the Oscar for this role and he deserved it but I think people really underrate Tom Cruise as an actor. He also gave a great peformance and he's not just crazy Tom doing stunt work. I highly recommend The Firm and Born on the 4th of July if you haven't watched them.
Unfortunately for Cruise some things work against him when his reputation as a serious actor is considered. He doesn't do very many serious dramatic roles anymore, he does action-adventure, scifi, thrillers but he does turn in excellent performances in them and occasionally has the impressive, serious dramatic turn. But overall he doesn't do Rain Man, Born on the Fourth of July type, Oscar-worthy films much now. And two, his personal life is just off-the-rails whack and unfortunately many people can't shake that when watching his work. Me personally, I think he's one of the best dramatic actors in the last few decades when he puts his mind to it. The midnight kitchen scene in Born on the Fourth of July when he breaks down with his mother makes me tear up just thinking about it. As much as I love his Mission: Impossible and various scifi movies, including Minority Report, which also has some stellar dramatic acting from Cruise, he's just too much of an adrenaline junkie these days and needs to be the center of a spectacle to be happy.
This was actually a very tough role for Tom Cruise. He never had a condition like autism or paralysis to use as a crutch. His role was mostly reactional and had to turn his character from a greedy, unsympathetic and unlikeable character to a type of character you want to see succeed, which is no easy task. At 26-years-old it was a phenomenal performance, with Cruise often overshadowed by Hoffman. Mind you, it was in a time when caring and dealing with the specifics with people with autism would have taken a monumental amount of research.
One of the most excellent scenes is when Raymond puts his head on Charlie, initiating physical contact when he HATES it, because he loves his brother. Excellent reaction as always ❤
Yes, Raymond putting his head on Charlie was him basically giving Charlie a hug. I also love after that he starts spelling Charlie's name instead of Vern's, which means that Charlie is his main man now.
That bathtub scene really turned things around for me. It was such a startling moment! The whole thing that Raymond is Charlie's childhood "friend" Rain Man, and then that he got sent away because he accidentally burned Charlie as a baby... just wow. Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise played that scene so beautifully.
The character of Raymond was based on Kim Peek, a well known autistic savant. Kim Peek's memory was so good, he could sit down and read a full length book cover to cover and then recite the entire book word for word. He was often referred to as a megasavant.
I saw the documentary about that guy. He travelled the US with his father visiting colleges and universities showcasing his savant abilities. His father was very elderly and it was sad to know he would be without his father before long. A very touching doc.
This movie came out about a year after I wrote a screenplay called "In Quiet Desperation" about my own son who was born autistic in 1980. Obviously I wasn't the only one who knew about autism, but few people did until this movie came out. I instead did a documentary called "A Separate Reality" with actual parents, MD's etc who spoke about this spectrum. My wife loved the movie (Rain Man) and so did I, and it hit home in many ways. Daniel is now 43 and when he was 26 he went into a group home after waiting for a spot for 2 years. he lives with 4 other men and we see him often. I am a retired medical professional, and my wife and I have been together for 43 years.
I remember this movie being the first time most people heard the word "autistic". Great that it brought some awareness but people then equated it with incredible math skills, as though everyone with autism was just like Raymond.
Our son, also Daniel, was born in 1986 and lived with us until three years ago. He wasn't diagnosed as autistic until he was 18 although we had always maintained that he was autistic. He also has severe learning disabilities and epilepsy. He is now in full time care very close to our home and he loves it. The hardest thing about autism for the family is the lack of emotional connection and this film portrays that brilliantly. As you have said, very few people even knew about autism back in the 80's let alone understood it. Onlookers would assume the behaviour was just bad behaviour and that we were bad parents for not controlling it. Thankfully a lot more is understood these days.
Rain Man brought awareness of autism into the public consciousness in a major way. I am not sure Americans would be aware of it today to the degree they are but for this movie. It won best actor, best picture, best director and best screenplay at the Oscars, That said, it also confused people about what autism is because it's not exactly detailed about the condition (and shows one one form of it that people are unlikely to encounter in everyday life) and it conflates autism and savant syndrome. But at least people had some awareness of it after the film.
The ‘I’m an excellent driver’ line that Raymond says a lot has a subtle meaning for me. The only person who would have told him that was his father when he brought the car and let him drive on the driveway. It tells us that his father cared for him and was loving towards him. I can vouch for the fact that autism was not well know about back then. The movie brought it to the attention of many. I’m aware that by today’s understanding it isn’t accurate and some say it was harmful but I guess the conversation had to start somewhere.
Hey Sam and Daniel, the scene when Charlie finds out Raymond is the Rainman hits all of us like a ton of bricks. ------ I am a grown man who has seen this movie at least 30 times and it breaks me every time. ------It's probably one of the top 50 written scenes in movie history. To me at least. It just touches your soul at the deepest levels.
Very well put - I am grateful that folks like you are around. Seems that people are more accepting these days, we went through hell the first 10 years when people didn't understand why Daniel was acting up in public. Thank you.
I have an autistic older brother. He's 50. I'm 42. Trying to explain to my childhood friends in the 80's why my brother was different was soooo difficult. It wasn't widely known of, at all. The nurse not being familiar seems unbelievable now, but it wasn't commonly known about back then, even by nurses. My brother was institutionalized, much like Raymond, but he had home visits every other weekend and on holidays. I often try to grasp how difficult a decision it must have been for my parents to essentially give him up, yet at the same time be trying to provide him the best possible care. Now, with them elderly, and my being the only sibling left to care for him (I had another brother who passed 4 years ago), it's gonna fall to me to make sure he's taken care of for the rest of his life. It's a daunting thing, no matter what way you look at it. This movie will always be special to me, because it allowed me to point to something and say, "Here, if I'm not explaining it well, this will give you some concept", & I was 8 when this came out. I'd honestly love a sequel - to see how Charlie is dealing with the later stages of life.
Dustin Hoffman is amazing in this but Tom Cruise is also brilliant. His character is the one who completes the most interesting dramatic arc. He should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in this unforgettable movie.
Dustin Hoffman won the Oscar and got most of the attention for his performance in this film, but I would argue that Tom Cruise was equally impressive. Charlie is someone who is used to being able to force the universe into order, and then here comes someone (Raymond) who cannot be controlled and won't respond to his demands. It's a fish-out-of-water story for both characters.
Hey Sam. You're meant to hate Tom Cruise (Charlie) at the start of the movie so when he goes through his character arc and learns to take care of his brother you feel the weight of the story. ------ Especially when Charlie finds out that Raymond is actually The Rain Man is the imaginary character from his childhood. ------ Such a heartfelt moment, it breaks my heart every time I see it.
Dustin Hoffman. Holy shit. What a performance. Thanks for reacting to this film. The "Rain Main" reveal was a great example of incredible story-writing.
Congratulations on 100k!! I just love the channel. I love hearing Samantha's "Hello" at the beginning of every reaction. This was such a great acting job by Dustin Hoffman, and Tom Cruise as well. He's such a d-bag at the beginning, and the turn he makes is great to watch, especially since there is no running scene 😃.
Nice understated touch at the end of the movie where Raymond makes and maintains eye contact with Charlie when he's saying goodbye. He doesn't make direct eye contact with anyone prior to this.
Besides all the other great Dustin Hoffman movies named elsewhere in the comments, I also liked him in "Hook". Barely recognizable in his make-up and costuming, he was so over the top with his scenery-chewing performance that it made the movie especially memorable. Normally a bad thing, his hamming it up fit perfectly with the desired texture of the film.
Happy holidays you two! I have a daughter on the spectrum and I too see bits and pieces of her in Raymond, which I think speaks to what an amazing performance Hoffman gave, 100% deserving of his Oscar. But props to Tom Cruise as well. I don't know the guy in real life, maybe he's a little nutty, but he was definitely brave to take a part like this early in his career. Being, for most of the movie, a pretty big prick, could've easily turned viewers off to him. That's the other part I love about this film. Charlie goes through a powerful arc. The title character, Rain Man, never changes. Of course, because he can't change. But through that, he changes his brother. It's beautiful. And props to director Barry Levinson. The story goes that initial test audiences were unsatisfied with the ending. They wanted Raymond to "snap out of it" in the end, maybe make eye contact with his brother on the train. So the producers wanted to change the ending. Levinson didn't allow it, knowing the end had to be bittersweet or it would ruin the whole point of the movie. That's how I heard the story, anyway. Wow, lots of ranting! Sorry, I have a LOT of passion for this film. If you took the time to read all this, I appreciate it!
Thanks for reacting to this! It's a great movie, but I find it personally very moving as my son is on the autism spectrum. One of the great things about Rain Man is that it really captured some of the very common elements and behaviors of being autistic. However, not all of Raymond's behaviors are shared by all people on the spectrum. That's why it's referred to as a spectrum. There is a saying within the autism community - once you've met an autistic person, you've met an autistic person. Meaning each person is unique in their total array of behaviors - although they may share a fraction of those behaviors with another person on the spectrum. My son definitely exhibits some of Raymond's behaviors so I can smile at some of them because I see them everyday in my son. As others have mentioned - this was THE movie that made the general public aware of autism. So although it's an excellent movie in it's own way - it's a significant movie from a societal standpoint.
This movie is what kicked off the Autism craze. It was a rare handicap previously called Childhood Schizophrenia, but since "Rainman" it has become fashionable for doctors to diagnose nerds as autistic, when they're just nerds causing them to embrace their awkwardness rather than overcoming or working around it. Unfortunately, Autism has become an identity to these nerds for a couple of generations now, so there may be no turning back. Before "Rainman" 99 out of 100 doctors had never even heard of Autism, much less the general public.
I hate the movie but I agree with much of what you say that were all different. Unfortunately because of the movie a lot of people figured all autistic people were just like this, and I had to deal with years of bullying about being autistic and they wanted me to act just like Hoffman's character here just to amuse them...
@@sparky6086 Sadly autism diagnosis has also been used to excuse shitty behavior of kids when reality it's the parents who don't discipline their kids properly. Just because your child acts up in public doesn't mean they have autism. That's where I get pissed off at the whole thing.
@7:25 This is Bonnie Hunt's first feature film acting credit. She won the role by auditioning for it in her lunch break while working in Oncology as a Registered Nurse!
I love this movie. I consider it one of the greatest ever made. It deserves all of the Academy Awards it won. Both Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman are excellent in this. Great performances! Great reaction!
Tom Cruise is so often pigeonholed as just a pretty faced movie star but he is really a fantastic actor. This is one of his best roles in a very well written movie. I'm so glad you decided to react to this one. It's a great character arc for both Charlie and Raymond pulled off by two great actors working seamlessly together. Another couple of Cruise movies you might check out are Risky Business (this is the role that put him on the map), Born on the Forth of July, and Magnolia.
*Rudy* (1993) would be a great movie to react to for reaching 100k. Ok I may be reaching just a little, but it is true story about following your dreams and accomplishments. So maybe it is perfect. It's the best time of year to react to it before football season ends. You'll love it. ❤️
There was a time the first thirteen years of his career, Tom Cruise was not known for his running, action scenes and never held a gun in a movie until 1996's Mission Impossible. Up until then, he was more known for his dramas and Top Gun really was the exception to his resume rule. Rain Man was being hyped before release as Dustin Hoffman's movie and that he would blow Cruise off the screen. The critics gave a lot of props to Tom after the film was out that he not only held his own, but was a scene stealer and should have been nominated too. Tom has had an amazingly versatile career. He has incredible dramatic chops just waiting dormant to be reexplored.
Truth is Tom Cruise first held and fired a gun in the movie "Taps" (1981). It wasn't an action movie but it was the first time he fired a gun in a movie.
You guys are absolutely right! Back when this film came out autism wasn't as widely known or understood by the general public as it is now. In fact it was this movie that was the first introduction to autism for alot of us.
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying because of it. I try give it a pass that it's over 30 years old (unlike Sia's godawful 'Music' that came out a couple years ago that was just so full of crap and she lashed out at the autistic community who tried to explain the issues to her) but yeah. I hate it. Or more specifically what I had to put up with it because of people who thought we all have to be like 'Rain Man' and not understand there's a whole spectrum. And that we spend much of our lives basically acting 'normal' to try hide or cos we don't want to freak people out. But a hollywood actor can get praise and adoration for 'faking' the condition we struggle with every damn day and get harassed and mocked for. :/ I dunno.
Back in the day it was common for people of means to hide from society a child that had special needs. After the mother died it was probably much easier for the father to just move Raymond into a facility and keep his "dirty secret" to himself and his lawyers.
Regarding the score, Rain Man is Hans Zimmer's first work for Hollywood, from here he entered the radar of many directors who loved his music in this film, and he would quickly be in great demand by Hollywood and his career would take off rapidly.
Congrats on the100k subscribers. Few trivia items to note. The black jack dealer I think is a real black jack dealer in Vegas. He was also in Casino when Nickey (Pesci) was telling him to take the card and shove it up his arse. The main doctor who was in charge of Wallbrook was Gerald Molen who produced the movie. He was also the guy looking after the triceratops in Jarrasic Park.. The doctor who was interviewing Raymond at the end is Barry Levinson who directed the movie.
Barry started out as an actor and writer. He was the put-on bellhop in Mel Brooks' "High Anxiety" and, with his then-wife Valerie Curtin (Jane Curtin's cousin), also an actor, wrote the legal dramedy "And Justice For All", starring Al Pacino. Pacino, Levinson and Curtin all earned Oscar nominations.
I’m the son of special educators and spent my summers volunteering at hypotherapy clinics with my aunt helping kids with developmental delay and various diagnoses to ride horses. I’m also an army vet and strongman competitor and this movie makes me WEEP. Even during the reaction, I don’t know what it is about Dustin Hoffmann performance, but it’s just so poignant. Charlie’s arc is so satisfying because he learns so much and comes to accept selflessness. Stellar reaction guys, love your content and your relationship. I woke up and watched it at 6am because I couldn’t wait until work 😂
The frustration with Charlie makes it much more wholesome when he learns how to be a compassionate brother and honestly care about someone other than himself. Through Raymond, who has so much difficulty communicating/understanding certain things, Charlie grows up so much, and Raymond is able to relax with Charlie too. It's such a beautiful, heartfelt journey. It really pulls at my heartstrings. I loved your reaction and analysis, as always. I was beyond myself that this movie was chosen. 💗
I was born in 78 and saw this movie as a kid. You have to remember that their was no internet back then, and this movie was the first introduction to Autism. So the lady not knowing what that was was normal back then.
Family secrets back before I was born were common. I bumped into a man in 1993 who looked exactly like my uncle. I asked him if he was related, and we soon uncovered that he was an out of wedlock child of my uncle which was adopted into a family, back then close to my family. My uncle was told his child died at birth. Both father and son were finally introduced after 50 years apart.
This movie hits home for me. At the age of 35 I found out that I had a sister, everyone in my family knew except me. I was and still am angry about it. She was put up for adoption right after birth as my father was in Vietnam and my mother was just 18 with a second child (My sister). After the urging of my fathers parents saying it would be to much for such a young parent (S) to handle she was put up for adoption. Only after my sister found out and looked up my mother was I told. I understood why she was adopted but never came to grips why it took 35 years to tell me. It has been a cloud that hangs over me to this day
Rain Man moves every reactor and , well, just about anybody who sees it to tears . No one knows what it’s about until it hooks your emotions and by then you’re already on the ride. It’s a beautiful film
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying because of it. I try give it a pass that it's over 30 years old (unlike Sia's godawful 'Music' that came out a couple years ago that was just so full of crap and she lashed out at the autistic community who tried to explain the issues to her) but yeah. I hate it.
Great reaction. Now you really should watch a recording of “Who’s On First” performed by Abbott and Costello. It isn’t a joke. It’s a full, amazing skit and very possibly the greatest comedy routine of all time.
Another Tom Cruise movie that's good is The Color of Money. You might want to watch The Hustler first though as the CoM is kind of a sequel. Both are great!
Dustin Hoffman really nailed it. His walk, his stare, his mannerisms, & his speech are just like my 60 year old autistic sister. She has real Autism, not the spectrum BS which is just a euphemism for a nerd.
The movie's director Barry Levinson played the doctor near the end that asks the interview questions to Raymond about where and who he wants to stay with.
That’s right and Dr. Bruner was played by Gerald R. Molen who was one of the movie’s producers. He was also one of Tom Cruise’s doctors in Days of Thunder, and the park guide in Jurassic Park in the scene with the sick triceratops and it’s droppings aka “one big pile of sh*t”. He also produced Minority Report and a few other Spielberg films during the 90s.
@@tomhoffman4330 There’s a Channel called Kat Reacts. She did a good reaction on it, but yeah. That’s the only one I can find. It will get around eventually:)
Interesting fact = The psychiatrist with the gray-haired mullet and the glasses sitting down asking Ray the questions is Barry Levinson, the director of Rain Man. He ended up winning the Oscar for Best Director at the 1989 Academy Awards ceremony. Rain Man also won for Best Picture of 1988. It also received an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay. By the way, I congratulate the both of you for reacting to this masterpiece. Dustin Hoffman deserved the Oscar for his role.
None of us knew what autism was until this movie. And yes, that is what some of Charlie's frustrations come from. I now have 2 autistic family members and different degrees in the spectrum. If you ever dealt with someone who is autistic I you would know there are times that you can get very frustrated. You have to take a break at times. They can get fixated on one thing. Also I have friends that have children that are autistic and one friends said to me that she didn't think her son would care if she never came home. He also didn't like to be touched and so you couldn't hug him and she never heard him say "I Love u" that made me so sad for her/them. But I never would have been able to understand if not for this movie. Another good movie that deals with Autism is Temple Grandin. It's a true story. And it sheds more light on what they are experiencing internally. I wont tell you to much, but Temple is widely known in certain parts of the country. She made a name for herself despite having autism. Also, all the autistic people I know have some special skills. Numbers, music, memory, etc something. Anyway this is one of my favorite movies. So glad you reacted to it. Thanks.
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying for years because of it. With people wanting me to act like Hoffman's character just to amuse them. It was worse when I was younger and people thought I was some kind of freak but even in this age where the subject of autism is more widely known about, I still get a rough time from some folk.
@carn9507 I'm sorry that you had and still are experiencing that. That is so unfair. REMOVE THOSE PEOPLE FROM YOUR Unfortunately, it's not the movies fault. It is the fault of those ignorant people who do that. The movie strived to bring awareness at time where there absolutely was NONE. Most people had never even heard of autism when this came out. Although i am just finding out from you that some autistic people had your experience from this movie, I'm definitely not surprised. I can also assure you that there are autistic people that had a different "better" experiences because of the awareness of the character. As an African American and as a woman, I do know that people will use anything as an excuse to bully and belittled you. But the truth is they would do it anyway. It's not the movie. IT'S THEM! The movie is just the tool and/or excuse they use. If the movie didn't exist, it would be something. During the 80's a lot of movies were made to create awareness of different things, like autism (Rain Man), sexism and rape, (The Accused) AIDS (Philadelphia) and movies/sitcoms about racism and the black experience in America. And though i can't speak personally on Autism from a first-hand experience like you. I can tell you that this movie certainly helped me and my friends understand better and prepared me and them a little better for my/our autistic relatives/children/friends and/or acquaintances. Those movies strive to humanize and put faces to those people who otherwise werent being viewed as human or worthy of respect or love. Its a shame that people need movies to show then human beings as human. Decent people opened their mind and changed their views, and it either had no effect on the others or simply became their tool. Unfortunately, no one movie or class or campaign will change the mind of mean, hateful, small-minded people. It's just no help for some individuals. Some people are just vile! Keep your head up my friend, and please know you are supported from a far. And although i understand how you could feel the way you do, never let those people off the hook for their behavior by putting the responsibility on this movie or anything else. It is them and only them. And if it wasn't Rain Man, they would most definitely use something else to try to hurt you. I'm not the most eloquent of speakers or the best writer, so I hope you read/hear my response as intended; with love and compassion. Lastly if anyone tries to tease, belittle, or mock you, REMOVE THEM FROM YOUR LIFE IMMEDIATELY. They are not worthy of your presence. ❤️
@carn9507 those people were jerks. That's all. I'm sorry that was your experience but I wouldn't make it about the movie. I respect your feelings and pount of view though. Idiots will be idiots. Try not to let them get to you. I know that's easier said than done sometimes but you can do it.
At the reading of the will, Charlie says" I definitely got the rosebushes!" Sounding just like Raymond. Great little detail you can't catch on a first watch.
15:00 “putting all of the pieces together.” That is autism, the puzzle piece is the perfect symbol. That’s all you do, try to figure things out for those who have difficulty to communicate. Dustin Hoffman nails it. And yes, Tom plays a great role of a brother desperately trying to understand and learning patience. . . . because he has no other choice. Because Raymond has no other choice to be who he is.
Amazing, amazing amazing. I joined you guys at 5k subs and the patreon at 7k subs. I just wanted to give you guys that support as one of the smartest and best duos in the reaction game. Now to see you all at 100k subs, just makes my heart so warm. I can't say enough about how much you both deserve this success. Keep up the awesome work.
@@TBRSchmitt I have not commented in a while cuz, I miss the debut time of the reaction and you all are so popular now. If you're not here in the first 1 hour there is no chance of the comment being read. Just know I'm always here watching the reactions. Keep em coming.
If you want to watch a good older Tom Cruise movie, I highly recommend "Born on the Fourth of July". It was directed by Oliver Stone and Tom Cruise was nominated for an Oscar. Can't wait for the reaction to that. It's Tom Cruise's best movie in my opinion.
Hey Hey, Daniel and Sam.------- Dustin Hoffman's acting was next level in this movie. I saw him in so many of his hits like, "Tootsie", "Midnight Cowboy", "Kramer vs Kramer", "Outbreak", "The Graduate" and on and on. Hoffman has maybe 10-15 top 200 movies ever made in his filmography.------- As I was saying, Dawn. I saw him act like a normal person.------- To see him become Rain Man show me what amazing acting could be. WOW.------- This is the type of acting transformation that will give you goosebumps.
You guys should research Kim Peek. He's the real Rain Man. He has literally read and memorized an entire library of books that he owns, word for word. When he reads a book, the left eye reads the left page and the right eye reads the right page at the *same* time. His brain puts both of them together back to back. So reading two pages for him takes the same time as one of us takes to read one page, only he remembers it word for word and can quote it back to you. There are some very interesting documentaries about him on youtube.
I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome when I was in college; these days, of course, this is no longer considered an official diagnosis in and of itself, but is folded into the generic, overarching category of autism spectrum disorders. That said, it doesn't make the diagnosis any less real or valid to me-- I still consider myself to fall within the spectrum. I know I'm fortunate, because my specific instance is definitely at the high-functioning end. It mostly manifests as difficulty with reading social cues and fixation on eccentric interests-- things which I can largely camouflage and pass off as simply being "introverted". As a person on the autism spectrum, my personal feelings on _Rain Man_ are... complicated. On the one hand, from a certain standpoint, it hasn't aged particularly well; we know a lot more about the autism spectrum now than we did in the 1980s, and this movie is at fault for spreading some popular misconceptions about it. Even if well-intentioned, it does portray autism through a bit of a 'Hollywood' lens, and it's a bit problematic for accentuating the savantism aspects of the disorder as a result of its basis on Kim Peek. Which, don't get me wrong, _do_ manifest in some individuals-- but the reality of the spectrum is a lot more complex, individualized, and nuanced than that, and those nuances are lost in this rendering. This movie is directly responsible for a lot of people over the years wrongly thinking that savantism is a requisite part of an autism diagnosis, or that people on the spectrum all manifest it the way that Raymond does in this movie. The reality is, some of us have _very_ visible behavioral symptoms, while for others, there's essentially _no_ outwardly perceivable difference in our cognition, intellect or behavior that would tip anyone off. Some people, you wouldn't have any way to tell they're autistic unless they actually outright _tell_ you they are. However, for as much as the view of autism in this movie is rather simplistic... I also recognize that it's largely because this was the _first_ real attempt that Hollywood ever made, to promote a humane view of autism. It's a relic of its time, and that time was nearly 35 years ago. I respect this movie _very_ much for what it is: a vital first step toward a broader understanding and acceptance of neurodiversity. We wouldn't be where we are now without that first step.
Yeah I kinda hate this film because bullies used it to harass me for years, but I give it a pass cos it's over 30 years old. Unlike the godawful 'Music' by Sia which came out a couple years ago which is full of crap and she lashed out at the autistic community who tried to explain to her the many issues with it.
Very well said, and completely agreed. I have two children with autism, now 23 (son) and 20 (daughter). When they were young I'd get the question "what are they good at?" They'd often mention this fillm. It was maddening. My son is non verbal and more severely affected. My daughter's diagnostic was Asperger's. As you said, not really recognized outside of autism any longer. I completely understand your mixed feelings on the film. It has it's problems for sure, but i think overall it did some good.
In the beginning, Charlie was projecting. He was frustrated with Raymond’s challenging behaviors. Also, Raymond’s frustrations were manifested by his “outbursts” or catastrophic reactions. As the movie progressed, Charlie understood that he couldn’t change Raymond’s challenging behaviors…but he could prevent the catastrophic reactions…so Charlie changed his own behavior. What a movie.
It's been overshadowed by his bizarre behavior and personality, but Tom Cruise was a top tier actor in highly commercially successful films that also had substance in the 1980's. Which just seals that with out question he is easily the greatest movie star ever. All genre's covered and knocked it out of the park in almost every single role. Nobody else is even in the conversation. He can be Stallone or Jimmy Stewart, nobody else can do that.
I’m not sure if you guys picked it up, but the whole gambling scene in “The Hangover” was inspired by this film, right down to Alan’s suit he wore and the head tilt he had when he rode down the escalator while standing next to Phil.
@TBR Underrated gem. Few movies make you come all the way around on a character the way you do as many do with Charlie. Tho Tom is sketchy as a human being with his scientology crap he is indeed one of the best actors of his generation. Dustin Hoffman has been that since the graduate and has proven he can do serious and comedy but after this and how well he portrayed Raymond even his stock rose for many fans I think. Was fun to see you all react to this film and then discuss it in your outro
Compared to today, there was still very little autism awareness in the '80s. And, in earlier times, like the '50s and earlier, it was very common for special-needs children to be sent to live in hospital-orphanage type places. Having such a child was often considered a blemish on family reputation and the children were sometimes kept secret. 😔
I love this movie as most of the commenters. I have never ever seen Hoffman in this movie, not even for a second. I only saw this little confused lovely being, and never ever the actor. Kudos for his performance.
One thing that always struck me was how bad of a father Charlie and Raymond's father was. He caused this entire situation and made Charlie feel like he didn't matter his entire life. The ending really is great. Charlie now has a relationship with Raymond and now Charlie can now go and see him when he wants.
Well done on the 100k subs 🙌, hopefully can get to 200k in the new year. Always enjoy watching both of you reacting to some of my favourite movies and tv shows.
That entire scene in the bathroom where Charlie puts all the pieces together is heartbreaking. He’s been pissed off throughout the whole film that he was treated like crap by his father and never told he had a brother. Then he realizes that their father screwed Raymond worse.
I spent every other day with Kim Peeks at the Columbus Community Center in SLC..teaching him life skills such as tying his shoes etc. And at the library while he was reading the phone book and memorizing it..he loved doing that..he got a kick out of showing people his skills..he was a character...I was absolutely amazed..Kim inspired the movie. He told me all about meeting Tom and Dustin..His father was his rock touring the country and the world speaking...I was fortunate enough to spend time with this man for 4 years..
Hey Sam and Daniel, this was one of the first big-budget movies to cover and explain in depth the condition of Autism. ------ After this movie parents who didn't understand their children's disability finally had an answer to their dilemma.------- They could reach out to the correct professionals to get them help.------- What an amazing and groundbreaking story that the Rain Man covers.
This does play very differently today. Not just because we're more aware of ASD but if this movie were made today, that's a big if, they wouldn't cast a neurotypical actor. It's not quite the same but the last movie featuring someone neurotypical playing someone with ASD was 'Music' and there was a massive backlash. This also goes to show how confident an actor Tom Cruise has always been. He didn't try to sugar coat his performance in the beginning to try to smooth out the rough edges. He just went for it because he knew that eventually things would come around and they do.
Thank you for your reaction. 💛 There is a PBS documentary that came out a couple weeks ago called "In a Different Key" for anyone looking to learn more about autism. It follows a number of individuals and families, including people who are severely impacted in ways Hoffman's portrayed character is not. I teach children with autism and have found over the years that while public understanding has improved a little bit, more familiarity is always better & incredibly appreciated because as we see in the movie, the world can be a daunting & challenging place for anyone to navigate. Anyhoo, thanks guys -- see ya in the next! 🙂
Great movie. Congrats on 100k subs. Still the best movie reaction channel on UA-cam...but if you do a title or thumbnail that says "I CRIED" I'm out lol.
Dustin Hoffman and Cruise are simply out-fucking-standing in this film. Charlie's character arc is so satisfying in its redemption. Cruise did a fantastic job playing a Supreme asshole, and yet by the end he's making you cry out of sympathy for not being able to be with his big brother. 2 amazing performances, and a brilliant film.
Great reaction, guys. And TBR, you teased it, so even if you guys don't usually do sketches on your channel, now you have to show Samantha that Abbott and Costello joke. :)
This movie was revolutionary, some have said that seeing this movie made the public much more aware of autism. I've worked with developmentally disabled adults and Raymond's freakout in the airport scared me, Dustin Hoffman's performance was so uncanny, I thought "Oh God, I've been there." I had to laugh when you said that Vincent, Cruise's character in Collateral, was nicer than Charlie Babbitt -- interesting observation. Hoffman has had many great lines, but I will always appreciate his delivery of "K-Mart sucks." Thanks for this!
"The Graduate" (1967) and "Tootsie" (1982) if you want more Dustin Hoffman. "Marathon Man" (1976), "All The President's Men" (1976), "Little Big Man" (1970), and on and on.
This movie really was the first place many people saw much about autism, and from what I remember, even heard of it. I was pretty young when it came out, but pretty sure I wasn’t the only one who was really introduced to it here. Though some advocates have complained that it kind of made everyone think autistic people were all math geniuses, etc.
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying because of it. With people wanting me to act like Hoffman's character just to amuse them.
Most of us were unfamiliar with Autism when this was made; the diagnosis was just entering public awareness. This movie was HUGELY responsible for the condition being widely understood & appreciated.
And "Magnolia" a true masterclass in acting.
Raymond is NOT autistic. He actually has FG syndrome.
autism is underappreciated. People believe an autistic is just a freak yet they're probably the smarter and kinder one
Widely understood and appreciated? I must be living on a different planet.
It is true that the movie created awareness for the condition but I wouldn't go much further than that.
@@mobileore Please....how old are you? I was 18 years old when this came out. It was pretty realistic. No one talked about Autism back then in movies and most don't now;)
One of my favorite movies, Hoffman won the Oscar for this role and he deserved it but I think people really underrate Tom Cruise as an actor. He also gave a great peformance and he's not just crazy Tom doing stunt work. I highly recommend The Firm and Born on the 4th of July if you haven't watched them.
Born on the 4th of July is his masterpiece. Never seen him like that and I still think he deserved an oscar for that.
Vanilla Sky should be top of the Tom Cruise non-action role list.
Born On The 4th is excellent,probably his best
Unfortunately for Cruise some things work against him when his reputation as a serious actor is considered. He doesn't do very many serious dramatic roles anymore, he does action-adventure, scifi, thrillers but he does turn in excellent performances in them and occasionally has the impressive, serious dramatic turn. But overall he doesn't do Rain Man, Born on the Fourth of July type, Oscar-worthy films much now. And two, his personal life is just off-the-rails whack and unfortunately many people can't shake that when watching his work. Me personally, I think he's one of the best dramatic actors in the last few decades when he puts his mind to it. The midnight kitchen scene in Born on the Fourth of July when he breaks down with his mother makes me tear up just thinking about it. As much as I love his Mission: Impossible and various scifi movies, including Minority Report, which also has some stellar dramatic acting from Cruise, he's just too much of an adrenaline junkie these days and needs to be the center of a spectacle to be happy.
This was actually a very tough role for Tom Cruise. He never had a condition like autism or paralysis to use as a crutch. His role was mostly reactional and had to turn his character from a greedy, unsympathetic and unlikeable character to a type of character you want to see succeed, which is no easy task. At 26-years-old it was a phenomenal performance, with Cruise often overshadowed by Hoffman. Mind you, it was in a time when caring and dealing with the specifics with people with autism would have taken a monumental amount of research.
One of the most excellent scenes is when Raymond puts his head on Charlie, initiating physical contact when he HATES it, because he loves his brother.
Excellent reaction as always ❤
Yes, Raymond putting his head on Charlie was him basically giving Charlie a hug. I also love after that he starts spelling Charlie's name instead of Vern's, which means that Charlie is his main man now.
That bathtub scene really turned things around for me. It was such a startling moment! The whole thing that Raymond is Charlie's childhood "friend" Rain Man, and then that he got sent away because he accidentally burned Charlie as a baby... just wow. Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise played that scene so beautifully.
The character of Raymond was based on Kim Peek, a well known autistic savant. Kim Peek's memory was so good, he could sit down and read a full length book cover to cover and then recite the entire book word for word. He was often referred to as a megasavant.
I saw the documentary about that guy. He travelled the US with his father visiting colleges and universities showcasing his savant abilities. His father was very elderly and it was sad to know he would be without his father before long. A very touching doc.
Came to the comments to make sure this was mentioned. Thank you. I hope TBR and Sam watch that on their own. Such a powerful doc.
Tom cruise plays one of the most beautiful character arcs in movies
This movie came out about a year after I wrote a screenplay called "In Quiet Desperation" about my own son who was born autistic in 1980. Obviously I wasn't the only one who knew about autism, but few people did until this movie came out. I instead did a documentary called "A Separate Reality" with actual parents, MD's etc who spoke about this spectrum. My wife loved the movie (Rain Man) and so did I, and it hit home in many ways. Daniel is now 43 and when he was 26 he went into a group home after waiting for a spot for 2 years. he lives with 4 other men and we see him often. I am a retired medical professional, and my wife and I have been together for 43 years.
I remember this movie being the first time most people heard the word "autistic". Great that it brought some awareness but people then equated it with incredible math skills, as though everyone with autism was just like Raymond.
Our son, also Daniel, was born in 1986 and lived with us until three years ago. He wasn't diagnosed as autistic until he was 18 although we had always maintained that he was autistic. He also has severe learning disabilities and epilepsy. He is now in full time care very close to our home and he loves it. The hardest thing about autism for the family is the lack of emotional connection and this film portrays that brilliantly. As you have said, very few people even knew about autism back in the 80's let alone understood it. Onlookers would assume the behaviour was just bad behaviour and that we were bad parents for not controlling it. Thankfully a lot more is understood these days.
These ideas come to heaps of people at the same time! It's just who gets them out first
@@TheNeonRabbit Very much correct!
@@johnsmith-es7zk Best to you and your challenging journey, God bless!
Rain Man brought awareness of autism into the public consciousness in a major way. I am not sure Americans would be aware of it today to the degree they are but for this movie. It won best actor, best picture, best director and best screenplay at the Oscars, That said, it also confused people about what autism is because it's not exactly detailed about the condition (and shows one one form of it that people are unlikely to encounter in everyday life) and it conflates autism and savant syndrome. But at least people had some awareness of it after the film.
The ‘I’m an excellent driver’ line that Raymond says a lot has a subtle meaning for me. The only person who would have told him that was his father when he brought the car and let him drive on the driveway. It tells us that his father cared for him and was loving towards him.
I can vouch for the fact that autism was not well know about back then. The movie brought it to the attention of many. I’m aware that by today’s understanding it isn’t accurate and some say it was harmful but I guess the conversation had to start somewhere.
Hey Sam and Daniel, the scene when Charlie finds out Raymond is the Rainman hits all of us like a ton of bricks. ------ I am a grown man who has seen this movie at least 30 times and it breaks me every time. ------It's probably one of the top 50 written scenes in movie history. To me at least. It just touches your soul at the deepest levels.
Very well put - I am grateful that folks like you are around. Seems that people are more accepting these days, we went through hell the first 10 years when people didn't understand why Daniel was acting up in public. Thank you.
I have an autistic older brother. He's 50. I'm 42. Trying to explain to my childhood friends in the 80's why my brother was different was soooo difficult. It wasn't widely known of, at all. The nurse not being familiar seems unbelievable now, but it wasn't commonly known about back then, even by nurses.
My brother was institutionalized, much like Raymond, but he had home visits every other weekend and on holidays.
I often try to grasp how difficult a decision it must have been for my parents to essentially give him up, yet at the same time be trying to provide him the best possible care.
Now, with them elderly, and my being the only sibling left to care for him (I had another brother who passed 4 years ago), it's gonna fall to me to make sure he's taken care of for the rest of his life. It's a daunting thing, no matter what way you look at it.
This movie will always be special to me, because it allowed me to point to something and say, "Here, if I'm not explaining it well, this will give you some concept", & I was 8 when this came out.
I'd honestly love a sequel - to see how Charlie is dealing with the later stages of life.
Dustin Hoffman is amazing in this but Tom Cruise is also brilliant. His character is the one who completes the most interesting dramatic arc. He should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in this unforgettable movie.
Dustin Hoffman won the Oscar and got most of the attention for his performance in this film, but I would argue that Tom Cruise was equally impressive. Charlie is someone who is used to being able to force the universe into order, and then here comes someone (Raymond) who cannot be controlled and won't respond to his demands. It's a fish-out-of-water story for both characters.
Hey Sam. You're meant to hate Tom Cruise (Charlie) at the start of the movie so when he goes through his character arc and learns to take care of his brother you feel the weight of the story. ------ Especially when Charlie finds out that Raymond is actually The Rain Man is the imaginary character from his childhood. ------ Such a heartfelt moment, it breaks my heart every time I see it.
I'm sure she was aware of that.
Dustin Hoffman. Holy shit. What a performance. Thanks for reacting to this film. The "Rain Main" reveal was a great example of incredible story-writing.
Dustin Hoffman is something else in this. You really stop thinking of him as the famous actor and just see him as Raymond.
Congratulations on 100k!! I just love the channel. I love hearing Samantha's "Hello" at the beginning of every reaction. This was such a great acting job by Dustin Hoffman, and Tom Cruise as well. He's such a d-bag at the beginning, and the turn he makes is great to watch, especially since there is no running scene 😃.
Thank you so much!!
I always wave and reply 'Hello' to Samantha ;)
Nice understated touch at the end of the movie where Raymond makes and maintains eye contact with Charlie when he's saying goodbye. He doesn't make direct eye contact with anyone prior to this.
You guys are my go-to reactors. Congrats on the milestone, here's to 100k more 🤩🥳
Thank you so much!
@@TBRSchmitt you guys are the best!
@@TBRSchmitt nah dude, you guys do all the work, thanks for the honest reactions and reviews.
Congrats. You guys are great. I really love the in depth talk after. Too many have a few min recap and that's it.
SAME!!!!!!
Dustin Hoffman did an *amazing* job in this movie! Don't know who else could have played his role.
An actual autistic actor could have.
Dustin Hoffman won his second Best Actor Oscar for his moving performance in this movie!
So deserved!
Because he didn't go full r... nevermind
@@izzonj Exactly! 🤣
Besides all the other great Dustin Hoffman movies named elsewhere in the comments, I also liked him in "Hook". Barely recognizable in his make-up and costuming, he was so over the top with his scenery-chewing performance that it made the movie especially memorable. Normally a bad thing, his hamming it up fit perfectly with the desired texture of the film.
Happy holidays you two!
I have a daughter on the spectrum and I too see bits and pieces of her in Raymond, which I think speaks to what an amazing performance Hoffman gave, 100% deserving of his Oscar.
But props to Tom Cruise as well. I don't know the guy in real life, maybe he's a little nutty, but he was definitely brave to take a part like this early in his career. Being, for most of the movie, a pretty big prick, could've easily turned viewers off to him.
That's the other part I love about this film. Charlie goes through a powerful arc. The title character, Rain Man, never changes. Of course, because he can't change. But through that, he changes his brother. It's beautiful.
And props to director Barry Levinson. The story goes that initial test audiences were unsatisfied with the ending. They wanted Raymond to "snap out of it" in the end, maybe make eye contact with his brother on the train. So the producers wanted to change the ending. Levinson didn't allow it, knowing the end had to be bittersweet or it would ruin the whole point of the movie. That's how I heard the story, anyway.
Wow, lots of ranting! Sorry, I have a LOT of passion for this film. If you took the time to read all this, I appreciate it!
Thanks for reacting to this! It's a great movie, but I find it personally very moving as my son is on the autism spectrum. One of the great things about Rain Man is that it really captured some of the very common elements and behaviors of being autistic. However, not all of Raymond's behaviors are shared by all people on the spectrum. That's why it's referred to as a spectrum. There is a saying within the autism community - once you've met an autistic person, you've met an autistic person. Meaning each person is unique in their total array of behaviors - although they may share a fraction of those behaviors with another person on the spectrum. My son definitely exhibits some of Raymond's behaviors so I can smile at some of them because I see them everyday in my son. As others have mentioned - this was THE movie that made the general public aware of autism. So although it's an excellent movie in it's own way - it's a significant movie from a societal standpoint.
This movie is what kicked off the Autism craze. It was a rare handicap previously called Childhood Schizophrenia, but since "Rainman" it has become fashionable for doctors to diagnose nerds as autistic, when they're just nerds causing them to embrace their awkwardness rather than overcoming or working around it.
Unfortunately, Autism has become an identity to these nerds for a couple of generations now, so there may be no turning back.
Before "Rainman" 99 out of 100 doctors had never even heard of Autism, much less the general public.
I hate the movie but I agree with much of what you say that were all different. Unfortunately because of the movie a lot of people figured all autistic people were just like this, and I had to deal with years of bullying about being autistic and they wanted me to act just like Hoffman's character here just to amuse them...
@@sparky6086 Sadly autism diagnosis has also been used to excuse shitty behavior of kids when reality it's the parents who don't discipline their kids properly. Just because your child acts up in public doesn't mean they have autism. That's where I get pissed off at the whole thing.
The Rain Man = Raymond reveal is so moving, it's on Hodor level 😭
@7:25 This is Bonnie Hunt's first feature film acting credit. She won the role by auditioning for it in her lunch break while working in Oncology as a Registered Nurse!
I love this movie. I consider it one of the greatest ever made. It deserves all of the Academy Awards it won. Both Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman are excellent in this. Great performances! Great reaction!
Tom Cruise is so often pigeonholed as just a pretty faced movie star but he is really a fantastic actor. This is one of his best roles in a very well written movie. I'm so glad you decided to react to this one. It's a great character arc for both Charlie and Raymond pulled off by two great actors working seamlessly together.
Another couple of Cruise movies you might check out are Risky Business (this is the role that put him on the map), Born on the Forth of July, and Magnolia.
*Rudy* (1993) would be a great movie to react to for reaching 100k.
Ok I may be reaching just a little, but it is true story about following your dreams and accomplishments. So maybe it is perfect. It's the best time of year to react to it before football season ends. You'll love it. ❤️
There was a time the first thirteen years of his career, Tom Cruise was not known for his running, action scenes and never held a gun in a movie until 1996's Mission Impossible. Up until then, he was more known for his dramas and Top Gun really was the exception to his resume rule. Rain Man was being hyped before release as Dustin Hoffman's movie and that he would blow Cruise off the screen. The critics gave a lot of props to Tom after the film was out that he not only held his own, but was a scene stealer and should have been nominated too. Tom has had an amazingly versatile career. He has incredible dramatic chops just waiting dormant to be reexplored.
Truth is Tom Cruise first held and fired a gun in the movie "Taps" (1981). It wasn't an action movie but it was the first time he fired a gun in a movie.
You guys are absolutely right! Back when this film came out autism wasn't as widely known or understood by the general public as it is now. In fact it was this movie that was the first introduction to autism for alot of us.
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying because of it. I try give it a pass that it's over 30 years old (unlike Sia's godawful 'Music' that came out a couple years ago that was just so full of crap and she lashed out at the autistic community who tried to explain the issues to her) but yeah. I hate it. Or more specifically what I had to put up with it because of people who thought we all have to be like 'Rain Man' and not understand there's a whole spectrum. And that we spend much of our lives basically acting 'normal' to try hide or cos we don't want to freak people out. But a hollywood actor can get praise and adoration for 'faking' the condition we struggle with every damn day and get harassed and mocked for. :/ I dunno.
Back in the day it was common for people of means to hide from society a child that had special needs. After the mother died it was probably much easier for the father to just move Raymond into a facility and keep his "dirty secret" to himself and his lawyers.
Regarding the score, Rain Man is Hans Zimmer's first work for Hollywood, from here he entered the radar of many directors who loved his music in this film, and he would quickly be in great demand by Hollywood and his career would take off rapidly.
Congrats on the100k subscribers.
Few trivia items to note.
The black jack dealer I think is a real black jack dealer in Vegas. He was also in Casino when Nickey (Pesci) was telling him to take the card and shove it up his arse.
The main doctor who was in charge of Wallbrook was Gerald Molen who produced the movie. He was also the guy looking after the triceratops in Jarrasic Park..
The doctor who was interviewing Raymond at the end is Barry Levinson who directed the movie.
Barry started out as an actor and writer. He was the put-on bellhop in Mel Brooks' "High Anxiety" and, with his then-wife Valerie Curtin (Jane Curtin's cousin), also an actor, wrote the legal dramedy "And Justice For All", starring Al Pacino. Pacino, Levinson and Curtin all earned Oscar nominations.
Please don't forget about The Elephant Man! Extradorinary film I believe you will both appreciate. .
Congrats on 100k guys well-deserved. Thank you
I’m the son of special educators and spent my summers volunteering at hypotherapy clinics with my aunt helping kids with developmental delay and various diagnoses to ride horses. I’m also an army vet and strongman competitor and this movie makes me WEEP. Even during the reaction, I don’t know what it is about Dustin Hoffmann performance, but it’s just so poignant. Charlie’s arc is so satisfying because he learns so much and comes to accept selflessness. Stellar reaction guys, love your content and your relationship. I woke up and watched it at 6am because I couldn’t wait until work 😂
4 Oscars:
- Best Writing
- Best Director
- Best Picture
- Best Actor in a Leading Role: Dustin Hoffman
This was such an amazing performance from Dustin Hoffman, and the chemistry between Tom Cruise and Dustin was amazing.
The frustration with Charlie makes it much more wholesome when he learns how to be a compassionate brother and honestly care about someone other than himself. Through Raymond, who has so much difficulty communicating/understanding certain things, Charlie grows up so much, and Raymond is able to relax with Charlie too. It's such a beautiful, heartfelt journey. It really pulls at my heartstrings. I loved your reaction and analysis, as always. I was beyond myself that this movie was chosen. 💗
I was born in 78 and saw this movie as a kid. You have to remember that their was no internet back then, and this movie was the first introduction to Autism. So the lady not knowing what that was was normal back then.
Family secrets back before I was born were common. I bumped into a man in 1993 who looked exactly like my uncle. I asked him if he was related, and we soon uncovered that he was an out of wedlock child of my uncle which was adopted into a family, back then close to my family. My uncle was told his child died at birth. Both father and son were finally introduced after 50 years apart.
They are still common.
This movie hits home for me. At the age of 35 I found out that I had a sister, everyone in my family knew except me. I was and still am angry about it. She was put up for adoption right after birth as my father was in Vietnam and my mother was just 18 with a second child (My sister). After the urging of my fathers parents saying it would be to much for such a young parent (S) to handle she was put up for adoption. Only after my sister found out and looked up my mother was I told. I understood why she was adopted but never came to grips why it took 35 years to tell me. It has been a cloud that hangs over me to this day
That's a pretty horrible thing to keep hidden away from the rest of the family. I doubt anyone would blame you for being angry.
Rain Man moves every reactor and , well, just about anybody who sees it to tears .
No one knows what it’s about until it hooks your emotions and by then you’re already on the ride.
It’s a beautiful film
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying because of it. I try give it a pass that it's over 30 years old (unlike Sia's godawful 'Music' that came out a couple years ago that was just so full of crap and she lashed out at the autistic community who tried to explain the issues to her) but yeah. I hate it.
@@carn9507 rejection helps us become who we are .
Thank you for sharing
Great reaction. Now you really should watch a recording of “Who’s On First” performed by Abbott and Costello. It isn’t a joke. It’s a full, amazing skit and very possibly the greatest comedy routine of all time.
Another Tom Cruise movie that's good is The Color of Money. You might want to watch The Hustler first though as the CoM is kind of a sequel. Both are great!
I made this very suggestion some time ago. Didn't get any traction though.. not even a single up-thumb, which is a shame.
Dustin Hoffman is incredible in this movie.
This was Hoffman's magnum opus and that's saying a lot with his body of work.
Dustin Hoffman really nailed it. His walk, his stare, his mannerisms, & his speech are just like my 60 year old autistic sister. She has real Autism, not the spectrum BS which is just a euphemism for a nerd.
Best picture, best director, best actor & best original screenplay
The movie's director Barry Levinson played the doctor near the end that asks the interview questions to Raymond about where and who he wants to stay with.
That’s right and Dr. Bruner was played by Gerald R. Molen who was one of the movie’s producers. He was also one of Tom Cruise’s doctors in Days of Thunder, and the park guide in Jurassic Park in the scene with the sick triceratops and it’s droppings aka “one big pile of sh*t”. He also produced Minority Report and a few other Spielberg films during the 90s.
Congrats on 100k. For a great Dustin Hoffman performance check out Tootsie 1982. It’s hilarious and has a lot to say. Especially for it’s time:)
Added to the list! Thanks, Chris!
I'll Second that; "Tootsie" is a great classic and (atm) I can't think of anyone else who has Reacted to it yet.
@@TBRSchmitt LOVE TOOTSIE!!!
@@TBRSchmitt Please react to The Graduate! It's a classic and is what made Dustin Hoffman famous;)
@@tomhoffman4330 There’s a Channel called Kat Reacts. She did a good reaction on it, but yeah. That’s the only one I can find. It will get around eventually:)
Interesting fact =
The psychiatrist with the gray-haired mullet and the glasses sitting down asking Ray the questions is Barry Levinson, the director of Rain Man.
He ended up winning the Oscar for Best Director at the 1989 Academy Awards ceremony.
Rain Man also won for Best Picture of 1988.
It also received an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay.
By the way, I congratulate the both of you for reacting to this masterpiece.
Dustin Hoffman deserved the Oscar for his role.
Ayyyyeeee congrats on 100k fam 👏...hope y'all enjoyed rain man.
Thank you!
None of us knew what autism was until this movie. And yes, that is what some of Charlie's frustrations come from. I now have 2 autistic family members and different degrees in the spectrum. If you ever dealt with someone who is autistic I you would know there are times that you can get very frustrated. You have to take a break at times. They can get fixated on one thing. Also I have friends that have children that are autistic and one friends said to me that she didn't think her son would care if she never came home. He also didn't like to be touched and so you couldn't hug him and she never heard him say "I Love u" that made me so sad for her/them. But I never would have been able to understand if not for this movie.
Another good movie that deals with Autism is Temple Grandin. It's a true story. And it sheds more light on what they are experiencing internally. I wont tell you to much, but Temple is widely known in certain parts of the country. She made a name for herself despite having autism. Also, all the autistic people I know have some special skills. Numbers, music, memory, etc something.
Anyway this is one of my favorite movies. So glad you reacted to it. Thanks.
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying for years because of it. With people wanting me to act like Hoffman's character just to amuse them. It was worse when I was younger and people thought I was some kind of freak but even in this age where the subject of autism is more widely known about, I still get a rough time from some folk.
@carn9507 I'm sorry that you had and still are experiencing that. That is so unfair. REMOVE THOSE PEOPLE FROM YOUR Unfortunately, it's not the movies fault. It is the fault of those ignorant people who do that. The movie strived to bring awareness at time where there absolutely was NONE. Most people had never even heard of autism when this came out. Although i am just finding out from you that some autistic people had your experience from this movie, I'm definitely not surprised. I can also assure you that there are autistic people that had a different "better" experiences because of the awareness of the character. As an African American and as a woman, I do know that people will use anything as an excuse to bully and belittled you. But the truth is they would do it anyway. It's not the movie. IT'S THEM! The movie is just the tool and/or excuse they use. If the movie didn't exist, it would be something. During the 80's a lot of movies were made to create awareness of different things, like autism (Rain Man), sexism and rape, (The Accused) AIDS (Philadelphia) and movies/sitcoms about racism and the black experience in America. And though i can't speak personally on Autism from a first-hand experience like you. I can tell you that this movie certainly helped me and my friends understand better and prepared me and them a little better for my/our autistic relatives/children/friends and/or acquaintances. Those movies strive to humanize and put faces to those people who otherwise werent being viewed as human or worthy of respect or love. Its a shame that people need movies to show then human beings as human. Decent people opened their mind and changed their views, and it either had no effect on the others or simply became their tool. Unfortunately, no one movie or class or campaign will change the mind of mean, hateful, small-minded people. It's just no help for some individuals. Some people are just vile! Keep your head up my friend, and please know you are supported from a far. And although i understand how you could feel the way you do, never let those people off the hook for their behavior by putting the responsibility on this movie or anything else. It is them and only them. And if it wasn't Rain Man, they would most definitely use something else to try to hurt you. I'm not the most eloquent of speakers or the best writer, so I hope you read/hear my response as intended; with love and compassion. Lastly if anyone tries to tease, belittle, or mock you, REMOVE THEM FROM YOUR LIFE IMMEDIATELY. They are not worthy of your presence. ❤️
@carn9507 those people were jerks. That's all. I'm sorry that was your experience but I wouldn't make it about the movie. I respect your feelings and pount of view though. Idiots will be idiots. Try not to let them get to you. I know that's easier said than done sometimes but you can do it.
Woot! 100k!! Congratulations!!
At the reading of the will, Charlie says" I definitely got the rosebushes!" Sounding just like Raymond. Great little detail you can't catch on a first watch.
Congrats on 100k guys! What a ride!
Thank you!
15:00 “putting all of the pieces together.” That is autism, the puzzle piece is the perfect symbol. That’s all you do, try to figure things out for those who have difficulty to communicate. Dustin Hoffman nails it. And yes, Tom plays a great role of a brother desperately trying to understand and learning patience. . . . because he has no other choice. Because Raymond has no other choice to be who he is.
A really intense, weird movie: Magnolia, with Tom Cruise, and big cast, high ratings. love watching movies with ya'll.
Amazing, amazing amazing. I joined you guys at 5k subs and the patreon at 7k subs. I just wanted to give you guys that support as one of the smartest and best duos in the reaction game. Now to see you all at 100k subs, just makes my heart so warm. I can't say enough about how much you both deserve this success. Keep up the awesome work.
Thanks for being with us along the ride! We always enjoy reading your comments/thoughts
@@TBRSchmitt I have not commented in a while cuz, I miss the debut time of the reaction and you all are so popular now. If you're not here in the first 1 hour there is no chance of the comment being read. Just know I'm always here watching the reactions. Keep em coming.
Apparently almost all airlines wouldn't show this as an in-flight movie because of the Qantas reference
If you want to watch a good older Tom Cruise movie, I highly recommend "Born on the Fourth of July". It was directed by Oliver Stone and Tom Cruise was nominated for an Oscar. Can't wait for the reaction to that. It's Tom Cruise's best movie in my opinion.
Classic movie
One of our family favorites
I'm glad that y'all are getting the whole 80s experience
There's a plethora of movies that are great
Out of all the reactors I watch, I really enjoy your discussion format after the movie the most. y'all are my favorite.
Congratulations on 100K Schmitt & Samantha, you guys made it, cool reaction, you both take care 👏👏
Thanks, Corey!
@@TBRSchmitt My Pleasure Schmitt
Hey Hey, Daniel and Sam.------- Dustin Hoffman's acting was next level in this movie. I saw him in so many of his hits like, "Tootsie", "Midnight Cowboy", "Kramer vs Kramer", "Outbreak", "The Graduate" and on and on. Hoffman has maybe 10-15 top 200 movies ever made in his filmography.------- As I was saying, Dawn. I saw him act like a normal person.------- To see him become Rain Man show me what amazing acting could be. WOW.------- This is the type of acting transformation that will give you goosebumps.
You mean Midnight Cowboy.
You guys should research Kim Peek. He's the real Rain Man. He has literally read and memorized an entire library of books that he owns, word for word. When he reads a book, the left eye reads the left page and the right eye reads the right page at the *same* time. His brain puts both of them together back to back. So reading two pages for him takes the same time as one of us takes to read one page, only he remembers it word for word and can quote it back to you. There are some very interesting documentaries about him on youtube.
The doctor who questioned Ray towards the end of the film, was the film’s director Barry Levinson.
I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome when I was in college; these days, of course, this is no longer considered an official diagnosis in and of itself, but is folded into the generic, overarching category of autism spectrum disorders. That said, it doesn't make the diagnosis any less real or valid to me-- I still consider myself to fall within the spectrum. I know I'm fortunate, because my specific instance is definitely at the high-functioning end. It mostly manifests as difficulty with reading social cues and fixation on eccentric interests-- things which I can largely camouflage and pass off as simply being "introverted".
As a person on the autism spectrum, my personal feelings on _Rain Man_ are... complicated. On the one hand, from a certain standpoint, it hasn't aged particularly well; we know a lot more about the autism spectrum now than we did in the 1980s, and this movie is at fault for spreading some popular misconceptions about it. Even if well-intentioned, it does portray autism through a bit of a 'Hollywood' lens, and it's a bit problematic for accentuating the savantism aspects of the disorder as a result of its basis on Kim Peek. Which, don't get me wrong, _do_ manifest in some individuals-- but the reality of the spectrum is a lot more complex, individualized, and nuanced than that, and those nuances are lost in this rendering. This movie is directly responsible for a lot of people over the years wrongly thinking that savantism is a requisite part of an autism diagnosis, or that people on the spectrum all manifest it the way that Raymond does in this movie. The reality is, some of us have _very_ visible behavioral symptoms, while for others, there's essentially _no_ outwardly perceivable difference in our cognition, intellect or behavior that would tip anyone off. Some people, you wouldn't have any way to tell they're autistic unless they actually outright _tell_ you they are.
However, for as much as the view of autism in this movie is rather simplistic... I also recognize that it's largely because this was the _first_ real attempt that Hollywood ever made, to promote a humane view of autism. It's a relic of its time, and that time was nearly 35 years ago. I respect this movie _very_ much for what it is: a vital first step toward a broader understanding and acceptance of neurodiversity. We wouldn't be where we are now without that first step.
Yeah I kinda hate this film because bullies used it to harass me for years, but I give it a pass cos it's over 30 years old. Unlike the godawful 'Music' by Sia which came out a couple years ago which is full of crap and she lashed out at the autistic community who tried to explain to her the many issues with it.
Very well said, and completely agreed. I have two children with autism, now 23 (son) and 20 (daughter). When they were young I'd get the question "what are they good at?" They'd often mention this fillm. It was maddening. My son is non verbal and more severely affected. My daughter's diagnostic was Asperger's. As you said, not really recognized outside of autism any longer.
I completely understand your mixed feelings on the film. It has it's problems for sure, but i think overall it did some good.
In the beginning, Charlie was projecting. He was frustrated with Raymond’s challenging behaviors. Also, Raymond’s frustrations were manifested by his “outbursts” or catastrophic reactions. As the movie progressed, Charlie understood that he couldn’t change Raymond’s challenging behaviors…but he could prevent the catastrophic reactions…so Charlie changed his own behavior. What a movie.
When Hoffman Puts his head on Cruises....
his Version of a hug always gets me.😢
It's been overshadowed by his bizarre behavior and personality, but Tom Cruise was a top tier actor in highly commercially successful films that also had substance in the 1980's.
Which just seals that with out question he is easily the greatest movie star ever. All genre's covered and knocked it out of the park in almost every single role. Nobody else is even in the conversation. He can be Stallone or Jimmy Stewart, nobody else can do that.
I’m not sure if you guys picked it up, but the whole gambling scene in “The Hangover” was inspired by this film, right down to Alan’s suit he wore and the head tilt he had when he rode down the escalator while standing next to Phil.
I see that you've crossed the 100k mark. It is well deserved. This has been my go to channel for a long time!
@TBR Underrated gem. Few movies make you come all the way around on a character the way you do as many do with Charlie. Tho Tom is sketchy as a human being with his scientology crap he is indeed one of the best actors of his generation. Dustin Hoffman has been that since the graduate and has proven he can do serious and comedy but after this and how well he portrayed Raymond even his stock rose for many fans I think. Was fun to see you all react to this film and then discuss it in your outro
To be honest charle had more paticence than most people
The whole fart scene in the telephone booth was improvised by Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise just went along with it.
Compared to today, there was still very little autism awareness in the '80s.
And, in earlier times, like the '50s and earlier, it was very common for special-needs children to be sent to live in hospital-orphanage type places. Having such a child was often considered a blemish on family reputation and the children were sometimes kept secret. 😔
I love this movie as most of the commenters.
I have never ever seen Hoffman in this movie, not even for a second. I only saw this little confused lovely being, and never ever the actor. Kudos for his performance.
One thing that always struck me was how bad of a father Charlie and Raymond's father was. He caused this entire situation and made Charlie feel like he didn't matter his entire life.
The ending really is great. Charlie now has a relationship with Raymond and now Charlie can now go and see him when he wants.
Well done on the 100k subs 🙌, hopefully can get to 200k in the new year.
Always enjoy watching both of you reacting to some of my favourite movies and tv shows.
That entire scene in the bathroom where Charlie puts all the pieces together is heartbreaking. He’s been pissed off throughout the whole film that he was treated like crap by his father and never told he had a brother. Then he realizes that their father screwed Raymond worse.
17:00 When Samantha was like "Do they have to be matching!?" I laughed out loud. - Mike the Ginger
I spent every other day with Kim Peeks at the Columbus Community Center in SLC..teaching him life skills such as tying his shoes etc. And at the library while he was reading the phone book and memorizing it..he loved doing that..he got a kick out of showing people his skills..he was a character...I was absolutely amazed..Kim inspired the movie.
He told me all about meeting Tom and Dustin..His father was his rock touring the country and the world speaking...I was fortunate enough to spend time with this man for 4 years..
Hey Sam and Daniel, this was one of the first big-budget movies to cover and explain in depth the condition of Autism. ------ After this movie parents who didn't understand their children's disability finally had an answer to their dilemma.------- They could reach out to the correct professionals to get them help.------- What an amazing and groundbreaking story that the Rain Man covers.
It's raining men, hallelujah, it's raining men.
This does play very differently today. Not just because we're more aware of ASD but if this movie were made today, that's a big if, they wouldn't cast a neurotypical actor. It's not quite the same but the last movie featuring someone neurotypical playing someone with ASD was 'Music' and there was a massive backlash. This also goes to show how confident an actor Tom Cruise has always been. He didn't try to sugar coat his performance in the beginning to try to smooth out the rough edges. He just went for it because he knew that eventually things would come around and they do.
Thank you for your reaction. 💛 There is a PBS documentary that came out a couple weeks ago called "In a Different Key" for anyone looking to learn more about autism. It follows a number of individuals and families, including people who are severely impacted in ways Hoffman's portrayed character is not.
I teach children with autism and have found over the years that while public understanding has improved a little bit, more familiarity is always better & incredibly appreciated because as we see in the movie, the world can be a daunting & challenging place for anyone to navigate.
Anyhoo, thanks guys -- see ya in the next! 🙂
Great movie. Congrats on 100k subs. Still the best movie reaction channel on UA-cam...but if you do a title or thumbnail that says "I CRIED" I'm out lol.
LOL never! Thank you!
Tom's best acting role was," Born on the 4th of July ", You definitely should watch it.
That one often gets overlooked. People like to bring up Jerry Maguire or Magnolia, but I agree his greatest performance was as Ron Kovic.
Beginning scenes of the movie:
Charlie: “I definitely got the roses!”
Raymond: “I definitely have to be back in 2 hours”
Congratulations on 100K! 🎊 And great reaction! 👍🏿
Thank you, James!
Dustin Hoffman and Cruise are simply out-fucking-standing in this film. Charlie's character arc is so satisfying in its redemption. Cruise did a fantastic job playing a Supreme asshole, and yet by the end he's making you cry out of sympathy for not being able to be with his big brother. 2 amazing performances, and a brilliant film.
Congratulations on 100k! I'm so proud of you guys.
Thank you!
Great reaction, guys. And TBR, you teased it, so even if you guys don't usually do sketches on your channel, now you have to show Samantha that Abbott and Costello joke. :)
This movie was revolutionary, some have said that seeing this movie made the public much more aware of autism. I've worked with developmentally disabled adults and Raymond's freakout in the airport scared me, Dustin Hoffman's performance was so uncanny, I thought "Oh God, I've been there." I had to laugh when you said that Vincent, Cruise's character in Collateral, was nicer than Charlie Babbitt -- interesting observation. Hoffman has had many great lines, but I will always appreciate his delivery of "K-Mart sucks." Thanks for this!
ONE HUNDRED K! Congratulations to the nicest couple on You Tube. You also have a damned good reaction channel! Continued success!
Cruise: Born on the 4th of July. Hoffman: The Graduate; Midnight Cowboy; Little Big Man; Straw Dogs, etc.
"The Graduate" (1967) and "Tootsie" (1982) if you want more Dustin Hoffman. "Marathon Man" (1976), "All The President's Men" (1976), "Little Big Man" (1970), and on and on.
As a father of two young kids, I understand Tom's pain when dealing with Rainman.
This movie really was the first place many people saw much about autism, and from what I remember, even heard of it. I was pretty young when it came out, but pretty sure I wasn’t the only one who was really introduced to it here. Though some advocates have complained that it kind of made everyone think autistic people were all math geniuses, etc.
As an autistic person myself I kinda hate this movie. I thank it for making the general public more aware of neurodiversity but it does so in a very basic and specific way and I've had to put up with bullying because of it. With people wanting me to act like Hoffman's character just to amuse them.
I absolutely adore this movie. Thanks for your reactions.