I feel like they mostly just meant that songs from Kirby remind them of Green Greens because they hear it so much...Either that or they were wrong. But with both of those conclusions, STILL no one cares
Know Your Meme. They call them meme arrows because it's a prominent thing in rage comics. When in actuality the origin is from 4Chan, and it's called greentext because it makes the text green.
EmperorZ19 Apparently you dont listen to THEM enough. they started talking about green greens because of the stage name, not the song the song that was playing shitlord
When I go against competetive players that turn all items off, I switch to King Dedede. Ah, the rage when I throw out a smash ball in a no item game...
So you're lying about being a liar, does that mean you're telling the truth? But if you were telling the truth, that'd make you a liar. I need to go lie down.
John Lugo It was unintentional when I initially typed it, then I realized what I did and almost changed it, but decided not to. At that moment, it became intentional. So...yeah...I'll go sit in that corner now.
Remember folks, Nintendo added their mascots to an unrelated fighting game they were developing at THE LAST SECOND and called it Super Smash Bros. I wonder what would've happened if Nintendo didn't...
It's really hard to say... A lot of kids played smash because you get to play as Nintendo characters and beat each other up, and then you play it and realize how good of a game it is. I think it would've gotten less initial recognition, but still garnered a huge following eventually.
Yeah I definitely bought this and though "Can Link beat Mario in a fight?" Luckily this game is hype so it didn't matter (also Link is always low to mid low tier, so Mario wins lol)
***** I did not know that about Link... How come so many people play Link if he's so low tier? I guess cuz he's fucking Link, and Link is a badass regardless of what the tier list says.
***** If you really want to know, it's been kinda a running joke that all the zelda characters except sheik suck in Smash. Except in Smash 4. Link has some seriously good tech. He's still not fast enough to be Top 10 material but he's definitely mid-high tier. It no longer feels like his sword fighting isn't as good as say Marth, while his projectile game is still strong. His Up-B recovery is much better and his tether grab is so much better, using it in the air is actually a really good poke. He can combo into his new dash attack, which is basically his second most used kill move since it can punish rolls. His customs are amazing, a power bow version that kills at 80% from across the stage, N64 boomerang, Spin Attack dealing more damage and knockback than in melee, and bombs that have a meteor effect at high percent. He's definitely viable.
"Ugh, I have to go to work." - Pat 2014 I have to go to my super awesome job where I play fun video games with my best friends. The ultimate first world problem.
Tyler Wilson "Oh boohoo, he has to sit in front of his computer inside his nice, comfortable house and edit the footage of him doing fun things with his friends. His job is sooo hard, totally not a first-world problem! Don't you DARE poke fun at my e-celeb! GET OUT!" You get the hell out. I love Pat and whatever, but jesus christ almighty fuckin' kids nowadays will defend the stupidest shit, I swear to god.
You know, when you tell someone "don't bother replying", it basically translates to "I lost the argument", right? Not that it matters, but I think you should know that for future reference. Applies to real life, as well. So practical! And of course I'm being condescending to you, would you not be to someone who has a shaky standing point in a very simple argument? It makes them grow "thick skin", as you said. Rough love. It proves that you made a mistake, dummy. I know it must be a hard concept for such a promising young man to think that he screwed up, but it's alright. We all make mistakes, and were here to let you know when you make them whether you like it or not. Some... Just make more mistakes than others. You'll learn how to rectify yourself, in time. In addition, I find it hilarious that you belittle me for "only having insults" when you ended your previous reply with "colossal faggot". Top-tier stuff, truly. Anyway, you make this "job" seem really hard when it honestly isn't, spoken like a true youngster-- which you just admitted to being, I might add. Say it however you want, the fact of the matter is that they're simply playing videogames, lightly editing in the comfort of their homes, and then uploading the recorded footage to youtube for easy money. It's not that complicated, broski. I'm sorry. You must really admire this hobby... If you really think these guys buy all their shit with YT money purely, then you're the dense motherfucker here, and have no clue about how monetization works on this site. This channel is a side project for them, not their main source of stable income. Sure they do. Ever heard of painting? Decently talented people paint as a hobby and then sell their art for a hefty amount of cash while they pursue a more stable line of work. Nothing new. Oh you've mistaken me, I just found it very curious that you were dishing out such harsh words with such little provocation from my part; sign of someone who cannot control their emotions very well. Quite defensive, must be a personal issue. My heart goes out to you. Hmm, you seem to be reeeally into this "SJW" thing, like it's some sort of scary boogieman for you. Maybe it's some sort of complex? I don't know, perhaps it's an automated response for you at this point. In any case, we can only hope you grow out of it so you can hold a proper conversation with someone without being intimidated by opinions as valid as yours. Scary concept, eh? I'll be back here later if you wanna continue, I look forward to what kinds of things you'll come up with, kiddo.
I just wanna say something real quick... A UA-cam job isn't all shits n' giggles, there's editing, you never really get time to do whatever you wanna do unless it somehow involves getting a video out of it which kind of ruins whatever it is, there's all the shitty "fans" and comments they get to deal with, and many other things It IS like a real job, except it's pretty much never ending.
Pat's not crazy, in Evo 2008 the evo staff required items for the SSBB tournament. It was not well received by the smash community and caused a huge rift for years.
@@Kerunou they really shouldn't, but it would be fun to have multiple tournaments with different modes (like teams, items turned on, classic and other whacky stuff)
My greatest Smash N64 moment: It was me and my friend's cousin playing. We each had 1 life left, and I picked up a fan. The guy just laughs at me and says "That item is such shit! Go ahead and hit me with it. I don't even care!" So I smacked him with it, and he just blocked it, and he didn't even know that your shield drains. So I kept fucking smacking him until his shield broke, and then while he was stunned, I Falcon Punched him into oblivion. He screamed "This is bullshit!" and stormed out of the room.
Despite keeping up with Smash news for more than a year, constantly playing Project M with friends, playing the Unlimited 3DS demo for hours on end, watching Melee and Smash 4 tournaments since the E3 Invitational and EVO '14, and making videos for Smash mods since December last year... I am STILL not burnt out of Smash. I haven't really stuck with a single series for such a long period of time and still have joy watching and playing it. BLESS SMERSH.
First Pat gets a girlfriend, and now he's actually winning in the fisticuffs? What's next, he grows a foot, and regrows his hair? He's becoming too powerful, end him.
And it'll be like a hydra foot, where if you cut it off two more grow in its place. And even two more when you cut one of those off. And then he'll be the greatest runner ever.
***** I know, it is a really cool trope but Forest Fuking Kayson is in it so its a bit overshadowed. That being said, so little is given about Little Peggy and David they are really interesting.
"All good art is theft, or some shit?" "No, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" "Art imitates life" Actually Pat was right since "Good artists copy, great artists steal" is a quote that exists (thanks Picasso!)
Assuming this is the first part of a Smash series, I think they'll wait until the 28th to do Smash 4. They need time to record the episode, and will probably want to unlock characters first
***** That comparison makes no sense. Items are a fucking crap shoot in smash. It takes no skill to get lucky and have a hammer spawn next to you and instantly gain a huge advantage in lives for no reason. They are fun for casual matches, they add flavour. But you can't deny that it completely undermines the test of skill that is being judged in competitions.
***** Ammo is a requirement to deal damage to people, items in Smash aren't. Items add luck to the metagame, if you're playing for fun then that's cool but when skill is involved then it needs to go.
I'd rather have them make a Metroid character action game. Actually I wouldn't mind if they made it a regular action game by now. I just want a new Metroid game...
"Having no air dodge makes you so unsafe in the air in this game!" Meanwhile in Smash 4 "Being able to spam air dodge makes you super safe in the air in this game!"
So, they're finally here, performing for you! If you know the words, you can join in two. Put your hands together if you want to clap and we'll take you through this monkey rap!
I love the argument in games like this that items are cheap or whatever. like if you win because of items you didn't actually win. fuck that. they're part of the game and some of them actually require skill to use, others require skill to not get hit by. if you play without items because you think they're "unfair" or "cheap" you don't know how to use or defend against items and should get good.
Yeah that's my feeling on them too, to an extent, like keep them on Low or Medium, and Certain items are a bit overpowered. like the Bob-omb, it has a chance to start walking while your trying to pick up which can kill you unexpectantly, (also the red shell is a pain and not useful competively) but the land mine is perfect, even in competitive fights, to me, since it only activates with user input and isn't an insta-kill. I'll also understand if people don't want items in 4-player competitive since that is harder to keep track of, but in 1-on-1 that shouldn't be an excuse, items are there to help you keep control of the arena or to change tactics, if you can't keep up or use items properly then "git gud" or don't say your an expert player. Most items (particularly in later titles) aren't OP and can avoided or fought against, like the hammer you have no excuse to die from it in Melee or brawl unless YOU mess up.
I wouldn't say they are cheap, but I'll be honest it doesn't really feel like a contest of skill when they're on. Yeah, once an item's on the ground, it's free for anyone to take, but they don't spawn equidistant from both players. They spawn randomly and usually give only one player the advantage. So that leaves an element of chance, which feels unfair. It might be a different story if some items weren't effective enough to completely overturn the game, or 1-hit kill, but that's not the case. Sometimes you wanna fight without that element of chance there.
Keep your casual hands off me. ;) jk. Items are bullshit because of the fact that they spawn randomly and you can win because you got lucky. Imagine you're about to side smash someone, they dodge and punish, fair enough. Imagine you side smash and an explosive comes in and you hit it and get hurt, that's bullshit. The fact that some characters are better in the air also fucks things up. Because ground characters get the advantage. If you want things as balanced as possible, turn items off and you'll get a more skill based fight. Another thing is that the strategy with items on is to run away and throw item to damage them and then KO them. It caters to a certain play style. That said pro smash players will still murder with items on, they just don't like the random factor of it. One last thing, certain items are more powerful on certain stages which makes it more random. Like a hammer on FD. Or a smash ball in any situation. Items just don't work well if you want balanced matches.
GBDupree The power or the tactical use of the items, while a big factor in making them banned, isn't the only reason why they aren't used. It's their randomness. Their spawn time is random, the locations are random, sometimes the effect are completely random (i.e Poke balls). Smash is already infamous for having an absurd amount of random variables and it's just not fair if someone loses a tournament with a $15,000 prize, that they've been spending years practicing for, having to travel to friends and other competitive smashers in order to play them, having to learn fundamentals completely different from any other fighting game, work with blood, sweat and tears, you make it to grand finals and your opponent gets lucky and gets a trophy/ poke ball/ final smash/ bomb-omb/ fan/ hammer/ heart container or you have a random crate spawn right between you and blow up. These experts have experimented with using items before, for years. It didn't work. It killed the flow of the match, ruined the test of skill. It doesn't take much to kill hammer or a shell.
Did you guys have a huge argument before this video? All of you except pat seem to be a in an extremely salty mood. I don't remember Smash being such serious business.
I still remember that when I got this game again as an adult I went and did what I do with every fighting game. I asked my friends what they thought was the worst character and I just fucking trained the hell out of it until I got good. For this one it was jigglypuff, and it was glorious
34:50 Pat said that Bayonetta gave him a new appreciation for Fox, then Woolie said, "Bayonetta gave me...", and I actually thought he was going to say, "Bayonnetta gave me a new appreciation for Furries". I would've added it to the Woolie lore but he then finished his sentence.
I always thought he said "WELCOME! PUUHHH!" and I used to think it was the most badass phrase ever. It's like saying "How you doin'?" before you dent someone's face in.
Wow Sw1tcher guys you are awesome at these games! Espicially the fighting games. Hey have you ever played the Tekken games? If you have do you have any?
Dude. I totally forgot about the intro to this. The thing I miss most about these guys is you feel like you're sitting right next to them. I've never had a parasocial relationship with a youtuber or anything before, buy sitting down on a Friday night after school, eating whatever made for dinner and watching Fisticuffs will always be something I remember fondly.
Man, for not having played Smash 64 much (or at all), Pat did really well. After the Brawls, it's hype to see him doing well in this. Can't wait to see them play the others, especially with Liam in the mix now. Edit: I was gonna comment on Matt being oddly pissy towards Pat & Liam not liking certain Nintendo things, but then he brought it all back with that waifu burn. THAT'S our Matt!
lmfao I love Pat complaining about having to go to work OH NO MY UA-cam JOB IN WHICH I DO LITERALLY ABSOLUTELY 0 WORK BECAUSE MATT HANDLES EVERYTHING OH GOD MY LIFE IS SO HARD
Beyond many things in this game that i loved as a child. I find it really crazy how fast luigi gets his uppercut back after playing the other smashes and how early he can knock people out with it in super smash bros. Compared to the newest one now, where he falls on his head and there is a delay on it, not to mention you have to be RIGHT up on them..like in their woolie on them for it to even proper hit.
In 4P free for all battles I was always that guy that would camp at the front of the Star Fox stage if everyone was in the back, or camp at the back if everyone was at the front. Good times.
Thank god, a round of smash games where the guys actually play for fun with items and shit. It's hard to find these, youtube is usually filled with tryhard videos of smash.
If you have four friends playing this game, like Pat said, it quickly becomes a game of "kill the guy with the most stocks", angering said guy on levels near Mario Party. I may have been that guy.
I'm actually in the middle of playing Earthbound for the first time now. I was scared by it when I watched my cousin play it when I was, like 10 or 11 or some shit, and when I got a little older and wanted to play it, I either couldn't find it anywhere or didn't have the money to get it when I did. I'm playing it on WiiU. It's actually super cool, though, I didn't name the characters properly. I named Ness after me, then since I had a boy with a girls name, I decided to give the girl a boys name, so I named her Hank, then I named the third friend Morty, because he's a nerd, and that was the nerdiest name I could come up with.
Sam Rader Fittingly enough, Quentin Tarantino stole that quote, and retrofitted it to better apply to his tastes. A perfect microcosm of his GODLY career as one of the greatest directors currently living.
a considerable portion of the smash community prefer showing off skill and consider the items aspect as breaking that code of skill which is why the keep items off. It's annoying and i personally prefer both aspects of items but that's how some people like playing the game.
Even though I like items on, I swear there was an option in this the 64 version to turn off items. Unless they were just fucking with Matt when they said there wasn't an option
14:46 Yes what Pat is saying here actually happened. For you guys not in the know, in 2008, brawl was at EVO, but with items on. Also at that same tournament, a 14 year old named "CPU" beat Ken, one of the most experienced veterans of the series who has won hundreds of tournaments, in the grand finals. Add in some item caused kills in that match, and that win was highly controversial within the smash community, and outside, brawl became the laughingstock of EVO 2008.
14:30 I think I know what Pat was talking about. I remember watching some Brawl match of Ken's Marth vs. some guy's ROB, and the ROB used his final smash multiple times. I could be mistaken, but I think it was one of the first tournaments after Brawl came out and they had items on. But I dunno, it was just some video I saw and it was years ago.
I remember the commercial for this game Pikachu, Yoshi, Mario and DK walking together in a field of flowers while Happy Together plays and Mario just straight up trips Yoshi and they all just whale on each other that has to be the best video game commercial of all.
Hey Pat, I also have a deviated septum. I've been told the ability to smell is great, but I wouldn't know. With one functional eye, unable to smell, and a shitty sense of taste, I have like, 2.5 of the 5 senses. You'd be surprised how useful the ability to _not_ smell is. Made me an excellent janitor at a mcdonalds once. I was glad I couldn't smell..
On items, I always hear this line or something along its lines. "Why do people take items out? They're part of the game!!!" Well, so is having the option to turn items off. That's in the game too as an option. Some people want to take the RNG element out and fight something straight with someone when they feel like it. The game gives them the option to, so why shouldn't some people take advantage of it if it suits their fancy? If some people want to turn all the items up to mach 10 and just play a completely random game then that's fine too, my point is that I don't get why some people are so confused about the concept of people taking advantage of the many options these games offer to allow individual players to play the game however they want...like if they're NOT using this optional way of playing they're not playing the game right or something even if the game itself offered the choice. If items were mandatory, it'd be different, but they're not. People play it how they want because the game gives them the options to do so, it's not hard to figure out.
I have no problem with people turning items off, I turn certain ones off myself, though I never turn them off entirely. It is very much a preference thing. The only problem I see is people who force others to turn them off in the name of 'playing the game legit', and then get angry and furious and pretentious when they see people playing with any sort of items on. Then again, I hate 'professional gamers' in general and view the really terrible ones as a blight on the entire medium and why we can't have nice things, so I might not be the one to ask on things like this.
I'm gonna get smashed for this, but... I never liked the original Smash Bros. I didn't play it often and is has been QUITE some while, but I always felt like it was really slow and sluggish. Sure, it was fun as a kid, but as soon as Melee came I never looked back. And when Brawl came I never looked back either. And when 3DS came out I also didn't look back. I have a really stiff neck.
Chuck Testa I said I FELT it was sluggish. I haven't played it for more than a decade. I also didn't say I loved Brawl and 3DS. I said I had a stiff neck.
You kind of did say you loved it. "but as soon as Melee came I never looked back. And when Brawl came I never looked back either. And when 3DS came out I also didn't look back." Seems like you probably liked Brawl atleast as much as Melee (Which is a serious symptom and you should probably see a doctor about possible Brawl addiction). Stiff Neck is also a symptom, from the abundance of screen scroll.
Oh, cool, a joke episode. Wait, what? The other ones? Oh no...Zaibatsu, why would you do this to yourselves? I hope you keep playing with items and shit, so we don't enter the miasma that is Smash fandom. I'm cool when y'all pick something like this or Nidhogg for FNF; I don't mind you guys NOT playing fighting games on this because it's an hour more of you guys talking, but I feel like doing the "NOT A FIGHTING GAME" series all in a row is a really clean, pretty shot in your own foot. I'll keep watching, and clicking, and commenting; that'll never change, but now I must also pray to guide my favorite people through a mine-field. Good luck, Zaibatsu. Follower #2128 signing out. (P.S. If you're mad that Smash isn't a fighter, I'm sorry.)
CommentSection Barbarian Well, never told 'em to stop. In Zaibatsu comment sections, we shouldn't fight, therefore good sir, I must site one line and be on my way: "I don't mind you NOT playing fighting games on [FNF] because it's another hour of y'all talking, but *I think doing the entire [Smash Bros.] series in a row is a clean, pretty shot to your own foot*" That's all. The rest is bad bait for over-active smash-heads. I'm hype as fuck to see them do Melee and watch Liam devour souls. #2128, respectful deflect.
7upjawa No, not in the slightest; All branches of the FGC love starting shit. You have the mainliners playing USF4 and UMvC3 (like me, but I'm trash now), the anime oddballs playing Guilty Gear and shitblu, the creeps playing Arcana Heart, the die-hards playing SF2, MvC2, etc. Then there's the Smash community. When it comes to personalities, I love them. D1, Prog, etc. but the Melee purists did an insane amount of damage for all the help they did. Some people are aggressive about that, but hey, to me it's a party game that high-level FGC minds can do some shit with. *Shrugs*
Items make smash more challenging and fun and unpredictable, and ppl that can't play smash competitively with them on need to GTFO my Earth now before almighty hellfire spews forth from the Dwarven underworld and devours you faggish souls.
>Complains about hearing Green Greens
>Song is actually Gourmet Race
Clearly you haven't heard it ENOUGH
I feel like they mostly just meant that songs from Kirby remind them of Green Greens because they hear it so much...Either that or they were wrong.
But with both of those conclusions, STILL no one cares
Tim Bread Such a sad fail troll...
War really has changed.
Know Your Meme. They call them meme arrows because it's a prominent thing in rage comics.
When in actuality the origin is from 4Chan, and it's called greentext because it makes the text green.
EmperorZ19 Apparently you dont listen to THEM enough. they started talking about green greens because of the stage name, not the song the song that was playing shitlord
Woolie = P1
Matt = P2
Liam = P3
Pat = P4
Actually Pat was correct for one EVO where Brawl was included.
It had ALL items on.
Melee never had items.
stryflyer Yeah, ROB got the Final Smash and the announcer was going nuts about how random ROB's FS was.
We don't like talking about that. It was kind of a disaster.
When I go against competetive players that turn all items off, I switch to King Dedede. Ah, the rage when I throw out a smash ball in a no item game...
DiscordOfDave Wait, he can do that???
Sammy Jo Yup. Throwing waddledees has a chance of throwing a capsule, which often has a smash ball in it.
As a Brit, I can confirm I'm a giant liar.
In fact, I'm lying *right now*.
So you're lying about being a liar, does that mean you're telling the truth?
But if you were telling the truth, that'd make you a liar.
I need to go lie down.
Kit942 Sickass Lie Infinite Combo
>lie down
If that was intentional, go and sit in the corner and think about what you just did.
John Lugo It was unintentional when I initially typed it, then I realized what I did and almost changed it, but decided not to. At that moment, it became intentional. So...yeah...I'll go sit in that corner now.
Jack Sparrow: You lied to me by telling me the truth..
7:22 Did Pat's stroke just go unnoticed to everyone but me?
I'm enjoying the part of the lore where Liam is afraid of his own ass, and the mystical powers that lie abreast between each cheek.
I forget it's Friday until these come on.
Same
you should buy a calendar then.
Thanatos388 I have one. I just end up staring at it and still not knowing which day it is. Or the month. Shit, I'm not even sure which year it is.
Thanatos388 Ca- len-dar-s? then what is my smartphone supposed to be used for watching porn?
Erwin Dedić Yeah those cat girl calendars will rot your brain.
Remember folks, Nintendo added their mascots to an unrelated fighting game they were developing at THE LAST SECOND and called it Super Smash Bros. I wonder what would've happened if Nintendo didn't...
It's really hard to say... A lot of kids played smash because you get to play as Nintendo characters and beat each other up, and then you play it and realize how good of a game it is. I think it would've gotten less initial recognition, but still garnered a huge following eventually.
Yeah I definitely bought this and though "Can Link beat Mario in a fight?" Luckily this game is hype so it didn't matter (also Link is always low to mid low tier, so Mario wins lol)
***** I did not know that about Link... How come so many people play Link if he's so low tier? I guess cuz he's fucking Link, and Link is a badass regardless of what the tier list says.
q306005 Damn straight! Link's a boss and he's pretty damn versatile - he's just to slow. I have no idea where he places in Smash 4 so there's hope.
***** If you really want to know, it's been kinda a running joke that all the zelda characters except sheik suck in Smash. Except in Smash 4. Link has some seriously good tech. He's still not fast enough to be Top 10 material but he's definitely mid-high tier. It no longer feels like his sword fighting isn't as good as say Marth, while his projectile game is still strong. His Up-B recovery is much better and his tether grab is so much better, using it in the air is actually a really good poke. He can combo into his new dash attack, which is basically his second most used kill move since it can punish rolls. His customs are amazing, a power bow version that kills at 80% from across the stage, N64 boomerang, Spin Attack dealing more damage and knockback than in melee, and bombs that have a meteor effect at high percent.
He's definitely viable.
"Ugh, I have to go to work."
- Pat 2014
I have to go to my super awesome job where I play fun video games with my best friends. The ultimate first world problem.
...and editing hours of footage, and being a good commentator.
Get out.
Tyler Wilson
"Oh boohoo, he has to sit in front of his computer inside his nice, comfortable house and edit the footage of him doing fun things with his friends. His job is sooo hard, totally not a first-world problem! Don't you DARE poke fun at my e-celeb! GET OUT!"
You get the hell out. I love Pat and whatever, but jesus christ almighty fuckin' kids nowadays will defend the stupidest shit, I swear to god.
Makla Aria Holy shit master, that was a nice burn. Teach me your ways!
You know, when you tell someone "don't bother replying", it basically translates to "I lost the argument", right? Not that it matters, but I think you should know that for future reference. Applies to real life, as well. So practical!
And of course I'm being condescending to you, would you not be to someone who has a shaky standing point in a very simple argument? It makes them grow "thick skin", as you said. Rough love.
It proves that you made a mistake, dummy. I know it must be a hard concept for such a promising young man to think that he screwed up, but it's alright. We all make mistakes, and were here to let you know when you make them whether you like it or not. Some... Just make more mistakes than others. You'll learn how to rectify yourself, in time.
In addition, I find it hilarious that you belittle me for "only having insults" when you ended your previous reply with "colossal faggot". Top-tier stuff, truly.
Anyway, you make this "job" seem really hard when it honestly isn't, spoken like a true youngster-- which you just admitted to being, I might add.
Say it however you want, the fact of the matter is that they're simply playing videogames, lightly editing in the comfort of their homes, and then uploading the recorded footage to youtube for easy money. It's not that complicated, broski. I'm sorry. You must really admire this hobby...
If you really think these guys buy all their shit with YT money purely, then you're the dense motherfucker here, and have no clue about how monetization works on this site. This channel is a side project for them, not their main source of stable income.
Sure they do. Ever heard of painting? Decently talented people paint as a hobby and then sell their art for a hefty amount of cash while they pursue a more stable line of work. Nothing new.
Oh you've mistaken me, I just found it very curious that you were dishing out such harsh words with such little provocation from my part; sign of someone who cannot control their emotions very well. Quite defensive, must be a personal issue. My heart goes out to you.
Hmm, you seem to be reeeally into this "SJW" thing, like it's some sort of scary boogieman for you. Maybe it's some sort of complex? I don't know, perhaps it's an automated response for you at this point. In any case, we can only hope you grow out of it so you can hold a proper conversation with someone without being intimidated by opinions as valid as yours. Scary concept, eh?
I'll be back here later if you wanna continue, I look forward to what kinds of things you'll come up with, kiddo.
I just wanna say something real quick...
A UA-cam job isn't all shits n' giggles, there's editing, you never really get time to do whatever you wanna do unless it somehow involves getting a video out of it which kind of ruins whatever it is, there's all the shitty "fans" and comments they get to deal with, and many other things
It IS like a real job, except it's pretty much never ending.
best announcer, no other opening can ever match that man shouting "super smash brothers"
M E L E E
Umm beat you up??
Pat's not crazy, in Evo 2008 the evo staff required items for the SSBB tournament. It was not well received by the smash community and caused a huge rift for years.
I'd be fun as hell though
Items should always be reqd
@@Kerunou they really shouldn't, but it would be fun to have multiple tournaments with different modes (like teams, items turned on, classic and other whacky stuff)
@@Kerunou it's a test of luck at that point not skill
My greatest Smash N64 moment: It was me and my friend's cousin playing. We each had 1 life left, and I picked up a fan. The guy just laughs at me and says "That item is such shit! Go ahead and hit me with it. I don't even care!" So I smacked him with it, and he just blocked it, and he didn't even know that your shield drains. So I kept fucking smacking him until his shield broke, and then while he was stunned, I Falcon Punched him into oblivion. He screamed "This is bullshit!" and stormed out of the room.
As a British person, I can confirm that we are definitely not liars. That vacation was real. And Woolie is not secretly one of us.
Despite keeping up with Smash news for more than a year, constantly playing Project M with friends, playing the Unlimited 3DS demo for hours on end, watching Melee and Smash 4 tournaments since the E3 Invitational and EVO '14, and making videos for Smash mods since December last year... I am STILL not burnt out of Smash. I haven't really stuck with a single series for such a long period of time and still have joy watching and playing it.
BLESS SMERSH.
How about today? Personally I can play smash forever
First Pat gets a girlfriend, and now he's actually winning in the fisticuffs? What's next, he grows a foot, and regrows his hair? He's becoming too powerful, end him.
And it'll be like a hydra foot, where if you cut it off two more grow in its place. And even two more when you cut one of those off. And then he'll be the greatest runner ever.
Nel_Annette The same thing applies to his hair. Infinite amount of hair.
And it's not even his final form.
It's absolutely wild to read a comment like this now that he has baby house and dog
It hurts to rewatch these and know what i do now
this is a certified good classic
"Look how broken you are, you delicious delicious child."
- Pat
I'm conflicted. I really like FNF and I'm glad it's SSB this week, but I want more D4!
You know that it's really all about Kayson
***** I know, it is a really cool trope but Forest Fuking Kayson is in it so its a bit overshadowed. That being said, so little is given about Little Peggy and David they are really interesting.
but dark souls tho...
Exactly my thoughts. Smash Hype!!! But D4 is equally hype
m2cks no... more D4. You love it
6:37 - "Fuck that, using items in battle! That's horseshit!" -Pat, 2014
Some things never change.
I love the narrative that whenever Liam goes to Pat's house, he breaks something.
-Sometimes it's actually an accident-
"All good art is theft, or some shit?"
"No, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
"Art imitates life"
Actually Pat was right since "Good artists copy, great artists steal" is a quote that exists (thanks Picasso!)
Little did we know that Super Smash Bros. would one day kill the channel...
So I just realized.
SSB64 this week
SSBM/Brawl next week
SMASH 4 ON ITS RELEASE ON NOVEMBER 21st
AW SHIT GET HYPED.
I wonder if they do Tekken 2 and 3 on a future Friday Fisticuffs.
Assuming this is the first part of a Smash series, I think they'll wait until the 28th to do Smash 4. They need time to record the episode, and will probably want to unlock characters first
EmperorZ19 also a possibility. Melee deserves its own episode anyway.
It would be cool if they played Project M and messed around with Turbo mode.
The ending of this video basically confirms it.
I'm with Pat on that one, *Having to use items* is bullshit, items should be there to help you, they should not be necessary.
Jesus, it's no different from having ammo on a fucking gun.
***** That comparison makes no sense. Items are a fucking crap shoot in smash. It takes no skill to get lucky and have a hammer spawn next to you and instantly gain a huge advantage in lives for no reason. They are fun for casual matches, they add flavour. But you can't deny that it completely undermines the test of skill that is being judged in competitions.
*****
Ammo is a requirement to deal damage to people, items in Smash aren't.
Items add luck to the metagame, if you're playing for fun then that's cool but when skill is involved then it needs to go.
4tahlulz4 They weren't talking about items in smash, they were talking about items in RPGs.
4tahlulz4 What the fuck are you talking about, this is about JRPGs and using Bottle Rockets
Oh shit is this going to be a month of Smash Fisticuffs? I'm down. :)
I am so hypped for this shit
Oh my God, a Month of Saturday Morning Smashing?
I'm gonna need more lube; I'm too hard just thinking about it.
Platinum should make a character action game about F-Zero
Captain Falcon gets a Bayonetta intro complete with crotch zooms. Dear tittyfucking Christ that would be great.
CJ Skittlez Of course. But Captain Falcon is all about dat ass.
He's already got golden nipples.
And they name it "Super Falcon Brothers Zero."
I'd rather have them make a Metroid character action game.
Actually I wouldn't mind if they made it a regular action game by now.
I just want a new Metroid game...
My body is Reggie.
Are you sure? Maybe I should do a body check.
Erwin Dedić My Reggie is body.
xXcloud99Xx
That sounds like a personal problem.
True, I usually keep it locked up...
xXcloud99Xx You should get that checked out.
"I like it on paper, but in my hands Yoshi just feels weird."
~Liam 2014
"Having no air dodge makes you so unsafe in the air in this game!"
Meanwhile in Smash 4
"Being able to spam air dodge makes you super safe in the air in this game!"
A little part of me dies everytime they sing that fucking Donkey Kong theme song.
Heeeeeeyo! Donkey Kong, let's go, let's go!
Hotmanlion12 HERE HE COMES BANANA SLAMMING
Theo Truter OHHHHHH! WAH!
So, they're finally here, performing for you! If you know the words, you can join in two. Put your hands together if you want to clap and we'll take you through this monkey rap!
The only time I am truly alive is when they sing the DK theme song.
Every Friday night fisticuffss episode is Soo entertaining especially this one
This game was made for people with more than one friend!
I'm sad now.
"Have you tasted food that was labeled "Blue Flavored"? It was delicious!"
~Pat
my sisters and i had this rule. Whenever we fought at yoshis place on timed. we would jump off and whoever killed themselves the most won.
44:21 You thought UrinatingTree coined the term "Fucking Penguins", but it was actually Pat, in 2014
I love how Pat still complains about having to go to work when he has possibly one of the best and easiest jobs ever.
I think these guys have the best conversations when they play Smash.
I love the argument in games like this that items are cheap or whatever. like if you win because of items you didn't actually win. fuck that. they're part of the game and some of them actually require skill to use, others require skill to not get hit by. if you play without items because you think they're "unfair" or "cheap" you don't know how to use or defend against items and should get good.
I 100% agree, I also think it makes it much more fun to watch. random yeah but that's the fun of it!
Yeah that's my feeling on them too, to an extent, like keep them on Low or Medium, and Certain items are a bit overpowered. like the Bob-omb, it has a chance to start walking while your trying to pick up which can kill you unexpectantly, (also the red shell is a pain and not useful competively) but the land mine is perfect, even in competitive fights, to me, since it only activates with user input and isn't an insta-kill. I'll also understand if people don't want items in 4-player competitive since that is harder to keep track of, but in 1-on-1 that shouldn't be an excuse, items are there to help you keep control of the arena or to change tactics, if you can't keep up or use items properly then "git gud" or don't say your an expert player. Most items (particularly in later titles) aren't OP and can avoided or fought against, like the hammer you have no excuse to die from it in Melee or brawl unless YOU mess up.
I wouldn't say they are cheap, but I'll be honest it doesn't really feel like a contest of skill when they're on. Yeah, once an item's on the ground, it's free for anyone to take, but they don't spawn equidistant from both players. They spawn randomly and usually give only one player the advantage. So that leaves an element of chance, which feels unfair.
It might be a different story if some items weren't effective enough to completely overturn the game, or 1-hit kill, but that's not the case.
Sometimes you wanna fight without that element of chance there.
Keep your casual hands off me. ;) jk. Items are bullshit because of the fact that they spawn randomly and you can win because you got lucky. Imagine you're about to side smash someone, they dodge and punish, fair enough. Imagine you side smash and an explosive comes in and you hit it and get hurt, that's bullshit. The fact that some characters are better in the air also fucks things up. Because ground characters get the advantage. If you want things as balanced as possible, turn items off and you'll get a more skill based fight. Another thing is that the strategy with items on is to run away and throw item to damage them and then KO them. It caters to a certain play style. That said pro smash players will still murder with items on, they just don't like the random factor of it. One last thing, certain items are more powerful on certain stages which makes it more random. Like a hammer on FD. Or a smash ball in any situation. Items just don't work well if you want balanced matches.
GBDupree The power or the tactical use of the items, while a big factor in making them banned, isn't the only reason why they aren't used. It's their randomness. Their spawn time is random, the locations are random, sometimes the effect are completely random (i.e Poke balls). Smash is already infamous for having an absurd amount of random variables and it's just not fair if someone loses a tournament with a $15,000 prize, that they've been spending years practicing for, having to travel to friends and other competitive smashers in order to play them, having to learn fundamentals completely different from any other fighting game, work with blood, sweat and tears, you make it to grand finals and your opponent gets lucky and gets a trophy/ poke ball/ final smash/ bomb-omb/ fan/ hammer/ heart container or you have a random crate spawn right between you and blow up.
These experts have experimented with using items before, for years. It didn't work. It killed the flow of the match, ruined the test of skill. It doesn't take much to kill hammer or a shell.
Kirby was such a house in this game. I hope Smash 5 returns him to his former glory.
Did you guys have a huge argument before this video? All of you except pat seem to be a in an extremely salty mood. I don't remember Smash being such serious business.
I still remember that when I got this game again as an adult I went and did what I do with every fighting game. I asked my friends what they thought was the worst character and I just fucking trained the hell out of it until I got good. For this one it was jigglypuff, and it was glorious
Unpopular Opinion : I think Oreo aren't THAT great. They are good but absolutely not the best cookie ever.
What's an Orea? Id like to try one.
*****
Shut up U:
***** I don't know whatcha talking bout cause i'm french :U
***** Goddamn it Cage! Look what you've done to France!
*****
Who even EATS Raisins you sick monster ?!
never been crazy for oreos either
34:50 Pat said that Bayonetta gave him a new appreciation for Fox, then Woolie said, "Bayonetta gave me...", and I actually thought he was going to say, "Bayonnetta gave me a new appreciation for Furries". I would've added it to the Woolie lore but he then finished his sentence.
Does it sound like "Talcum Punch" in this game or is it just me?
I always thought he said "WELCOME! PUUHHH!" and I used to think it was the most badass phrase ever. It's like saying "How you doin'?" before you dent someone's face in.
So you guys are gonna do power stone 2/dream mix tv soon, right?
I remember playing this on emulators on school in computer programming classes.
Wow Sw1tcher guys you are awesome at these games! Espicially the fighting games. Hey have you ever played the Tekken games? If you have do you have any?
I'd be down with a Platinum-made Bowser action game. I wanna see how much they can get away with in a Rated E10+ game.
Pat: "Aren't I Cool?"
Immediately after 40:46
Damn Pat is on fire this episode, his commentary here is great.
Dude. I totally forgot about the intro to this. The thing I miss most about these guys is you feel like you're sitting right next to them. I've never had a parasocial relationship with a youtuber or anything before, buy sitting down on a Friday night after school, eating whatever made for dinner and watching Fisticuffs will always be something I remember fondly.
Let me guess. Next week, Melee. The week after, Brawl. The week after that, Smash 4.
"Why isn't there a smash on the ds? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T" What about now?
Still sucks.
+SuperYosh Works fine for most people, it seems.
"Look at how broken you are, you delicious, delicious, child" Well shit, 8 minutes in and we've found the highlight of the video.
And he wonders why children cry when he's in the room.
Man, for not having played Smash 64 much (or at all), Pat did really well. After the Brawls, it's hype to see him doing well in this. Can't wait to see them play the others, especially with Liam in the mix now.
Edit: I was gonna comment on Matt being oddly pissy towards Pat & Liam not liking certain Nintendo things, but then he brought it all back with that waifu burn. THAT'S our Matt!
mandatory "Pat needs to do a LP of mother game"
No thank you. It will be literally be Pat's version of Nuzzlocke, an absolute borefest. 16-bit games just dont hold up for full LP's anymore.
gyrobasel uhhh Chrono Trigger?
Sucks this fell apart.
Might be one of my favorite intros to a UA-cam show
This was a good game
When I saw this in my feed all I could think was *Woolie's hype voice* "AWW SHIT SON, BRAWL ROUND TWO LET'S GO. LET'S GO. LET'S FUCKIN GO."
lmfao I love Pat complaining about having to go to work
OH NO MY UA-cam JOB IN WHICH I DO LITERALLY ABSOLUTELY 0 WORK BECAUSE MATT HANDLES EVERYTHING OH GOD MY LIFE IS SO HARD
I think he was talking about back when he had a real job
Beyond many things in this game that i loved as a child. I find it really crazy how fast luigi gets his uppercut back after playing the other smashes and how early he can knock people out with it in super smash bros. Compared to the newest one now, where he falls on his head and there is a delay on it, not to mention you have to be RIGHT up on them..like in their woolie on them for it to even proper hit.
"Why not though?" Because the competitive Smash community likes to suck every bit of fun out of the game until it's a broken mess.
Haters gonna hate.
HAH, IT'S AS IF THEY'RE PLAYING THE GAME IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO HAVE FUN! WHAT A CONCEPT!
Meme aeries outside of 4chan don't do anything, pro tip.
what do you mean by broken mess?
***** its a fuckton better than super meta knights brawl featuring chain grabs the character
Oh my god that freaking donkey kong song i'm dying
This has got to be one of the best Fisticuffs ever recorded and i have no idea why
Oh god, Pat talking about how great Kevin Spacey is... definitely didn't age well
He does it all the time too. All you can do is face-palm.
In 4P free for all battles I was always that guy that would camp at the front of the Star Fox stage if everyone was in the back, or camp at the back if everyone was at the front. Good times.
7:48 Oooookay... so everyone agree we should call CPS?!
Erwin Dedić read that as "mighty steel rape horse"
You'd be amazed at how a single letter can change an entire image...
But I thought the angry one's name was Pat, not John.
Thank god, a round of smash games where the guys actually play for fun with items and shit.
It's hard to find these, youtube is usually filled with tryhard videos of smash.
If you have four friends playing this game, like Pat said, it quickly becomes a game of "kill the guy with the most stocks", angering said guy on levels near Mario Party.
I may have been that guy.
I thought they were only going to play fighting games on Friday Night Fisticuffs.
Smash isn't even really a game, if you think about it.
Hotmanlion12 I mean, its hardly even a video game. REALLY.
In fact, i dont think it even EXISTS really if you think about it
Indy McLargePants It's more of a feeling in your heart than actual game, really.
"a good con is art" is what i think Pat was reaching for.
BUT WOOLIE STOLE IT
childhood reawakening
(18:58) The DK song.
Chie. Best. Fuck Yukiko...
THARS YUR WAR!!!
Let the flames of war consume all!!!
Fuck Yukiko? Gladly.
Let the Persona Waifu Race Wars begin!!
***** Yukiko,Yukino,lots of characters with the letter why wouldn't you say?But the best would obviously be Yukari!
Rise all the waaaaaaaaay
You guys can argue over your shit-tier waifus. I'll be over here licking my vita whenever Naoto appears.
"Look at how broken you are, you delicious, delicious child."
-Patrick Boivin, 2014
Now the channel is broken
I'm actually in the middle of playing Earthbound for the first time now. I was scared by it when I watched my cousin play it when I was, like 10 or 11 or some shit, and when I got a little older and wanted to play it, I either couldn't find it anywhere or didn't have the money to get it when I did. I'm playing it on WiiU. It's actually super cool, though, I didn't name the characters properly. I named Ness after me, then since I had a boy with a girls name, I decided to give the girl a boys name, so I named her Hank, then I named the third friend Morty, because he's a nerd, and that was the nerdiest name I could come up with.
AmyD Earthbound's a real treat! Enjoy!
Earthbound is weird. It makes me feel nostalgia even though I've never played it before.
jjj7790 It's that whole strange childhood in suburbia vibe it's got going.
"Good artists borrow, great artists steal"-Ray Manzarek.
Sam Rader Fittingly enough, Quentin Tarantino stole that quote, and retrofitted it to better apply to his tastes.
A perfect microcosm of his GODLY career as one of the greatest directors currently living.
Why do people hate items, they are part of the game, turning them off is like ripping a piece out of the game.
a considerable portion of the smash community prefer showing off skill and consider the items aspect as breaking that code of skill which is why the keep items off. It's annoying and i personally prefer both aspects of items but that's how some people like playing the game.
Even though I like items on, I swear there was an option in this the 64 version to turn off items. Unless they were just fucking with Matt when they said there wasn't an option
JD Gans nah, i played it recently after watching their vid and i can confirm that there is no such option.
***** there Is an option you need to unlock it though
Noe Sierra I thought so cause I remember playing this so much.
14:46 Yes what Pat is saying here actually happened. For you guys not in the know, in 2008, brawl was at EVO, but with items on. Also at that same tournament, a 14 year old named "CPU" beat Ken, one of the most experienced veterans of the series who has won hundreds of tournaments, in the grand finals. Add in some item caused kills in that match, and that win was highly controversial within the smash community, and outside, brawl became the laughingstock of EVO 2008.
No D4? B-but Friday is three uploads... oh no.
14:30 I think I know what Pat was talking about. I remember watching some Brawl match of Ken's Marth vs. some guy's ROB, and the ROB used his final smash multiple times. I could be mistaken, but I think it was one of the first tournaments after Brawl came out and they had items on. But I dunno, it was just some video I saw and it was years ago.
MAH-REE-OH
MÄRIOW!
18:00 Pat dispenses more Australia lore, and more about the UK. Add that shit to the wiki stat!
WHERES MAH DAILY DOSE OF CLAM CHOWDAHHHHHH!?
I just worry about when the 1st dose of D ends...and when the next one begins.
I remember the commercial for this game Pikachu, Yoshi, Mario and DK walking together in a field of flowers while Happy Together plays and Mario just straight up trips Yoshi and they all just whale on each other that has to be the best video game commercial of all.
this game is a dinosaur god damn
I love it when all of them are together, and playing this game? Made it even better.
Smash Bros.? I am more than okay with this since their Super Best Friends Brawl of this game and the other two.
Hey Pat, I also have a deviated septum. I've been told the ability to smell is great, but I wouldn't know. With one functional eye, unable to smell, and a shitty sense of taste, I have like, 2.5 of the 5 senses. You'd be surprised how useful the ability to _not_ smell is. Made me an excellent janitor at a mcdonalds once. I was glad I couldn't smell..
On items, I always hear this line or something along its lines.
"Why do people take items out? They're part of the game!!!"
Well, so is having the option to turn items off. That's in the game too as an option. Some people want to take the RNG element out and fight something straight with someone when they feel like it. The game gives them the option to, so why shouldn't some people take advantage of it if it suits their fancy?
If some people want to turn all the items up to mach 10 and just play a completely random game then that's fine too, my point is that I don't get why some people are so confused about the concept of people taking advantage of the many options these games offer to allow individual players to play the game however they want...like if they're NOT using this optional way of playing they're not playing the game right or something even if the game itself offered the choice.
If items were mandatory, it'd be different, but they're not. People play it how they want because the game gives them the options to do so, it's not hard to figure out.
I like to have items on because I find it more fun, It's all just personal preference
I have no problem with people turning items off, I turn certain ones off myself, though I never turn them off entirely. It is very much a preference thing.
The only problem I see is people who force others to turn them off in the name of 'playing the game legit', and then get angry and furious and pretentious when they see people playing with any sort of items on.
Then again, I hate 'professional gamers' in general and view the really terrible ones as a blight on the entire medium and why we can't have nice things, so I might not be the one to ask on things like this.
Guessing Melee and Brawl for the next 2 weeks?
Mother 3 is godly
Most players do not use items in SMASH because they are not wolves, and SMASH is a land of wolves now.
I'm gonna get smashed for this, but...
I never liked the original Smash Bros. I didn't play it often and is has been QUITE some while, but I always felt like it was really slow and sluggish. Sure, it was fun as a kid, but as soon as Melee came I never looked back. And when Brawl came I never looked back either. And when 3DS came out I also didn't look back. I have a really stiff neck.
Maybe that's because each game after the original is newer/more improved than the previous?
Rakiell
Or like every nintendo game ever, every installment in a franchise is exactly the same with a new whistle.
Interesting that you claim that SSB64 is sluggish, then say that you loved Brawl and 3DS.
Chuck Testa I said I FELT it was sluggish. I haven't played it for more than a decade.
I also didn't say I loved Brawl and 3DS. I said I had a stiff neck.
You kind of did say you loved it. "but as soon as Melee came I never looked back. And when Brawl came I never looked back either. And when 3DS came out I also didn't look back." Seems like you probably liked Brawl atleast as much as Melee (Which is a serious symptom and you should probably see a doctor about possible Brawl addiction). Stiff Neck is also a symptom, from the abundance of screen scroll.
Wolf wasn't in Smash 4, OR in DLC.
I am severely sad.
Triceritrozer Are you happy now?
Oh, cool, a joke episode.
Wait, what?
The other ones?
Oh no...Zaibatsu, why would you do this to yourselves? I hope you keep playing with items and shit, so we don't enter the miasma that is Smash fandom.
I'm cool when y'all pick something like this or Nidhogg for FNF; I don't mind you guys NOT playing fighting games on this because it's an hour more of you guys talking, but I feel like doing the "NOT A FIGHTING GAME" series all in a row is a really clean, pretty shot in your own foot.
I'll keep watching, and clicking, and commenting; that'll never change, but now I must also pray to guide my favorite people through a mine-field. Good luck, Zaibatsu. Follower #2128 signing out.
(P.S. If you're mad that Smash isn't a fighter, I'm sorry.)
CommentSection Barbarian Well, never told 'em to stop. In Zaibatsu comment sections, we shouldn't fight, therefore good sir, I must site one line and be on my way:
"I don't mind you NOT playing fighting games on [FNF] because it's another hour of y'all talking, but *I think doing the entire [Smash Bros.] series in a row is a clean, pretty shot to your own foot*"
That's all. The rest is bad bait for over-active smash-heads. I'm hype as fuck to see them do Melee and watch Liam devour souls.
#2128, respectful deflect.
does it matter if its not a fighting game? honestly its a fun series :P
7upjawa No, not in the slightest; All branches of the FGC love starting shit. You have the mainliners playing USF4 and UMvC3 (like me, but I'm trash now), the anime oddballs playing Guilty Gear and shitblu, the creeps playing Arcana Heart, the die-hards playing SF2, MvC2, etc.
Then there's the Smash community. When it comes to personalities, I love them. D1, Prog, etc. but the Melee purists did an insane amount of damage for all the help they did.
Some people are aggressive about that, but hey, to me it's a party game that high-level FGC minds can do some shit with. *Shrugs*
Items make smash more challenging and fun and unpredictable, and ppl that can't play smash competitively with them on need to GTFO my Earth now before almighty hellfire spews forth from the Dwarven underworld and devours you faggish souls.
Wait why isn't smash a fighter
"Hyah: AIDS! Hyah: AIDS!"
"You delicious child"
-Pat 2014
Salt Master Matt kicking into overdrive at 14:20
It's wonderful.
And double nuke at 15:05.