When Rome Was Again Part Of The Roman Empire AFTER The "Fall Of Rome". What !?
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Don't tell anyone this but sometimes when I get done with my work I watch your videos in class without the teacher knowing
They know, they just dont care.
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I always thought it eould have been interesting to take a tour of Rome circa 1200AD, where the ancient structures were still more or less there, but in gradial decline, and the inhabitants knew that a great, most likely superior civilization once lived there, and that they, the modern inhabitants, lack the skill to create things so grand and complex.
Downtown Rome in the early to mid Renaissance must have been a little like going to the ruins of Detroit or going to Downtown LA in the mid to late 1990s.
Plodding through the swampy floodplain of the Tiber, seeing cattle graze on the green meadows of the Forum Romanum. Some experience indeed.
Well I mean, maybe I am misunderstanding you, but they knew the Roman Empire existed. It isn’t like classical texts and other things disappeared and the people of the Medieval times were none the wiser to there being a Roman Empire, well actually, a lot of “glory” or “legitimacy” in the middle ages were people trying to claim themselves as Roman.
Also they were building these big churches and architectural marvels in 1200, I’d say society and technology progressed since the roman empire in the high medieval times
I agree with this but I think most average peasants who aren't particularly educated won't know much about history. Maybe in church they'll learn some stuff but random farmers probably wouldn't know very much about antiquity. Just my impression though, maybe I'm wrong. But yeah as far as educated university people, sure they'd know about Rome. @@mrfootfxtish9430
The 1200s saw the rise of Gothic cathedrals, university, widespread use of mills that run by the flow of water, etc. By the High Middle Ages, the political stability of Western Europe allowed technology to continue progressing again and even literature. The most technologically "stagnant" time would be the Early Middle Ages due to Germanic invasions and afterwards, the Viking raids. By the High Middle Ages, the kingdoms of Europe stabilized.
@sergeipohkerova7211 A very melancholic, gorgeous and somewhat dystopian tour
May I mention that one aqueduct, Aqua Virgo originally built in 19 AD and repaired under Emperors Tiberius, Claudius, Constantine the Great and King Theodoric the Great, is, to great extent, still in use.
It was disrupted during the Gothic war but seemed to be repaired afterwards. A major restoration occurred under Pope Adrian I, in the late 8th century, few decades after the fall of the Exarchate. In the fateful year 1453 it underwent major repairs under Pope Nicolas V but some channels built under Agrippa remain in use. From that time it is known as Acqua Vergine.
In 17th-18th centuries several famous fountains were built at the business ends of Aqua Vergine.
In 1930 a parallel pipeline of Aqua Vergine Nuova was built but the original waterway, Aqua Vergine Antica, continues delivering water to many of the great fountains of Rome’s centre including Fontana di Trevi.
One possible reason why this aqueduct survived is that from the start most of its course was via underground passages.
The leaking aqueducts are a perfect metaphor for a bleeding declining imperial capital
thanks for the video. i find it weird that some people even today think in a etymological toponymic way that's not historically accurate.
And say roman empire did not exist without Rome ,while the move of capital from Rome to Constantinople happened when the empire was whole and one still.
the modern distinction of Byzantium is useful to distinguish the change and prevalence of Greek culture and language in the eastern part witch was already prominent already while the empire was whole anyway.
and all the important events were happening there in the east even before the collapse of the west so it was natural that the continuation happened in the east for many reasons.
I sometimes encounter the term 'R(h)omaeic Empire' in (older?) German literature ('Romäisch') as a name for the Byzantine Empire, which I find both elegant and useful. It simply means 'Roman', but taken from its Greek root (r(h)omaios) rather than from Latin (Romanus), reflecting the cultural divergence while simultaneously acknowledging the institutional continuity of the eastern part of the empire, as well as using approximately the same name that its inhabitants did.
@kerkblack836 The name is not useful because it's absolutely wrong and made up by 19th century Europeans
@@ansibarius4633 that is very accurate indeed. it is exactly what it is. thats why its ok sometimes to use the term Byzantium as it is not used to take away from the roman identity,but rather to distinguish it from Latin to greek continuation of the roman empire.
This video answers so many lingering questions. Thank you.
I am very happy that, you have explain the most Simple truth, that for the people of the medieval roman Empire.(Who has the money to do it)
When the Romans has problem in Spain and Italy, gone in Greece and east and when they have problems in east syria, Greece egypt he can gone in west.
His gone in the west.
Because for them was his country, the roman state.
My family when pelloponessus fell in Othoman hands has gone in Venice and after few years before the Greek revolution they return.
Because for them are the same they Romans, not Greek or italians.
The column of Phocas should be re-dedicated to someone deserving.
Love learning about this time in history, and love your videos very much, always learning something new.😊❤👍
The centuries old elite of Ancient Rome had been essentially decimated by the early empire. Pretty much none of the ancient families were still there (some people mistake later individuals with names of ancient families as if they belonged to them). Over the imperial era, it was very difficult for a family to remain for generations in a position of power and prestige, since purges were too common every time an emperor took power by force. I can only assume that the Roman “elite” that existed in the early medieval era was nothing more than a few locals of a certain importance, but with no connection to the ancient families.
The medieval Roman Nobles (which still named themselves Patricians) were most likely descendants of Frankish settlers or Latin Merchants that may have operated under Eastern Roman rule (they still had humble origins and never were patricians under Imperial rule).
Fascinating detail as always. Very appreciated.
Thank you!
7:42 Someone should make a movie that looks like this
I would like to see a movie about Belisarius.
As far as i remember, the Chiesa di Santa Maria Antiqua was originally built under Domitian as a Guardhouse for the Imperial Palace (were the Praetorian Guard may have operated), it was converted into a Church right after the Gothic Wars and served as the Chapel of the East-Roman governors of the City (which is probably the Domus Tiberiana).
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This feels so legendary, like the fall of Atlantis or something. Love it
The fall of troy
It would be nice to visit Italy in the 550s or 560s between the end of the Gothic wars and beginning of the Langobard wars. It would be just an endless urbex. The state of post-Roman states really reminds me the situation of the post-communist countries where the industry was liquidated, armies shrunk, mines were closed, railways declined and the ideas of a succesful citizen working in factory, owning a flat and raising multiple children got completely lost. No, I'm not a communist and I support the freedom of speech, travel and free market but not the headless privatization which has not far from the barbaric sacks of ancient cities.
Me, living in Poland, cities looking like from science fiction compared to the ones from "glorious previous system" when air was so dirty that my mother had to clean the windows every two days when she lived near Katowice, and my father had to be very smart about securing enough diapers for me
- yeah...superior civilisation....
it took us 20 years to go from "we look like some dystopian post apocalypse civ" to " we are not France...yet"
People have no idea how bad life was... it took months of saving to buy a pair of jeans, most people did not wear colorful clothes because it was simply not available, it was not good...not good at all, seeing how much progress was made in twenty years (well now more, but I just mean the first 20) I am just sad to think where we could have been if not for decades of socialism.
@@JM-mh1pp Yes, Poland managed the reconstruction and built many highways and industrial facilities, maintained the railways and even modernizes it's army, but it is still less than a half of it's 1980s size. I agree that without the socialist era, the economic situation would be better, and that the Cold War Western civilization was much superior, however the West also faced some decline by that time, for example the Rust Belt in the US wasn't caused by communism. The true reasons behind the decline are globalization and consumerism.
@@JM-mh1pp Thank God for Communism, otherwise Poland would've still been a semi-feudal s*ithole
Excellent video!!!
I really love roman ruins. I wish I could travel to the past just to see roman ruins in medieval times
I've seen them across Europe (thankfully, the Romans were kind enough to build stuff everywhere they went). I would recommend seeing Rome itself and Pompeii.
A Fantastic Video.
I enjoy your videos, but please, for the love of God, replace the AI images with historical ones. It would look so much better
Rome under .. erm .. Roman occupation - basically. Rome, the imperial city, had ceased to be an imperial capital over one hundred and fifty years before New Rome, the capital city of imperial Rome, returned it to the direct imperial rule of .. Rome aka the reigning and ruling emperor (not via proxies or as a memorial token). In the meantime .. Old Rome (the city) had become a fiefdom of New Rome (the emperor's capital) under the protection of Germanic armies and amid the age-old wranglings of the Senate and People, in so far as these remained - the only really worthwhile office being that of Pontifex Maximus, as applied now (defacto not yet de jure) to the elected Bishop of Rome, usually a Roman citizen always a subject of the Roman emperor (for the time being).
The 'restoration' (or in fact reconquest) of parts of the Western imperium to imperial control, though more or less successful militarily was a complete (and largely unmitigated) disaster - for the Eastern imperial coffers and Western subjects' ability to pay for it. Paying the various Germans for their long-established (and largely benign if irksome) 'protection' was one thing .. coughing up the ready cash for the privilege of being governed by the emperor's civil service (a bottomless pit, even if jobs might be arranged); when the imperial tax officer squeezed, it was more than the pips that squeaked.
So the battleground that had become Rome, the old city, and its environs had its polite facades ripped away with no economy fit to restore them (even if this had been worth the effort); thus the viable apostolic structures survived, as worth a visit, but the money guzzling repairs bill was not what the senatorial class had bargained for ..
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Idk when Rome as a whole fell, but I like to think Western Rome in the clasical sense ended in the 500's during the Gothic Wars
I could talk about Renaissance Rome.
Italy did very well under the rule of the goths. People were sick of the high taxes of imperial rule. Free market economies of the germanic people mixed with high infrastructure technology and governing principles from the empire created a model kingdom under Theoderic. The gothic war lasted 25 years because the population fiercely resisted the return of imperial rule. This bloody war destroyed Italy and weakened the empire to the point that neither could withstand the climate changes and plague that followed. These calamities aided the rise of Islam a century later. There was no need to retake the west, since all germanic kingdoms recognized and wanted the endorsement of the emperor in Constantinople. Good trade relations and the empire calling for the germanic armies in times of need against the sassanids and other threats would have been a much better deal for all. Unfortunately, all we have left is the roman propaganda that wants us to believe that these germanics were horrible grizzly men whose only intent was to plunder and destroy. This is even seen in modern art,my favorite, a painting of a barbarian using a club to destroy a roman statue in a villa. Archaeology even suggests that the Vandal kingdom was a flourishing one before it was destroyed.
Rome meant power. Romans were proud of their heritage and history. While what you say is true, there is no way a Roman emperor would compromise and allow "barbarians" to run things. As far as Justinian was concerned, Roman lands should be under Roman jurisdiction and rule, not under "barbarian" and "inferior" people who revolted against the empire and took control.
@demetst760 Yes, and we see similar scenarios playing out in current events.
Belisarius captured Rome with with very few men. He is the great one. Narsus while a competent general was riding on the coattails of Belisarius. The Roman/Italian campaign would have went so much better if Narsus wasn't such an ass and if Justinian would have trusted Belisarius more.
As a Greek, the "fall of Rome" does not have the meaning implied in the common representations: the Romans had the bragging rights over the less sophisticated 'barbarians' that they conquered but, in the case of the lands of the Greeks, they managed to conquer a civilization superior to their own.......so, for a Greek, it is a matter of calculating if they were 'good' or 'bad' conquerors-- the Romans themselves eventually chose Greek as the official language of the Eastern Empire.......put that in your head, that the conquerors adopt the language of the conquered. After the fall of the Western Empire, even the envious barbaric invaders/rulers called the Eastern Empire "the Greeks" with jealousy and disdain. Rome fell in the West, in the lands of the Greeks what happened is that a Greco-Roman advanced culture developed and persisted until, once again, the myriad enemies from, literally, "all around", destroyed it-- the final blow delivered in 1453.
Rome Has History It is an Ancient City and Still Today One of the Oldest Inhabited Cities in the World.
At least the old capital city spread a tremendous deal of culture to the known world and we still have it!
The people of Rome were better off under Ostrogothic rule. The Gothic Wars destroyed the city of Rome.
Yes the Gothic wars devastated the peninsula. We need to remember though that Justinian and Belisarius could not have forseen hwo long and devastating rhe war would be. The reconquest of Africa was fast and swift and Belisarius anticipated that Italy would be too. The barbarians were an small aristocratic elite among the still very Roman population. The tragedy of the Gothic war was that the Eastern Romans were again and again distracted from the war by other conflicts, such as with the Persians or the Justinianic plague. Which can't be blamed on Belisarius.
@@baselius662 Justinian should have also given Belisarius more support in troops because he was apparently paranoid about him betraying him.
@@ironinquisitor3656 It wasn't really paranoia, it wasn't unusual for a general that was as successful as Belisarius was and as popular with the people as he was, to try to usurp the throne. In fact, it's weirder how Belisarius was THAT dedicated to the emperor and to the empire. Put anyone other than him at that time in his place and he would have at least TRIED to become the emperor himself. The emperor wasn't really a monarch with absolute power back then, he was like a prime minister, he had authority but it wasn't absolute. If the people didn't like him they could easily stripped him off his power, blinding him in the process and putting someone else in his place. So Justinian was correct to be scared of Belisarius.
I personally think, that we should use the term "Byzantine" after 642 AD. After the fall of Egypt, empire became even more greek influenced, and it transformated from The Roman Empire to a more Greek empire
try after the 800 ad events better....
Should we call it Medieval Greco-Roman Empire?
4TH CENTURY AD , BYZANTINE OUT LIVES THE FALL OF ROME AND THE LATIN WEST BY 1000 YEARS
@KarimIbrahim-gr4oh Why would you force a name on people that call themselves romans? Also look at why it was named like that by 19th century Europe, it's absolutely ridiculous
@@markmuller7962 I know. But by 11th century it was more greek.
The Gothic wars sometimes make me think the east did it on purpose. The west was much more pagan than the east was. And Rome was much easier to deal with as a ruin than as a rival. (To constantinople, no matter what anyone says, you can not convince me that those who ran the ROMAN empire from constantinople would look adverse on the largely pagan city of ROME. Not saying it was on purpose, but I would believe it if it was.
Linguistically and culturally, the Eastern Roman Empire was actually the old Hellenistic Empire under Roman administration. There are no byzantine texts in latin but only in greek.
errr......ok mate......who told u in the first place that rome fell before justinian conquered it ? cause i have the feeling that................ODOACER reunited the empire in 476 under the eastern emperor zeno and was named a patricius who ruled rome until zeno would came himself to rule there and he minted coins as a subordinate of rome. so u have a german federate general who reunited the empire after the death of the great theodosius for the first time after 80 years of a dual system.
Not so much"Why does the stuff spoken about around 11:48 seem to not have anything to do with me, uninteresting?" but whay does the stuff before hand seem to have something to do with me?
I guess after you talk about the Pope I want to know about how Peter and the Episcopal history of Christianity have anything to do with the Papacy at all, and what kinds of claims to legitimacy did those who claimed Christ throughout history have, what kinds of civic benefits did they exibit or through subterfuge hide.....
I would like to see what kind of benefits if ANY did christianity have to the culture and socieites around them. shift shift shift shift shift shift shift shift shift.... I often wonder how society ignored the vast wastelands we equate with the holy land to the benefits we imagine of religion, specifically our Religion of Faith in Christ.
Too bad the Byzantine reconquest didn't last after Justinian's death. (IIRC)
It did at least some of it, like Rome and south Italy and Africa, Hispania lost to the Visigoths and the rest of Africa to the Muslims
Portions of Justinian's conquest lasted till the 11th century. Rome itself stayed under the Empire till the mid 8th
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Maybe 1806?
if you meant to pronounce "Sant'Agnese" in Italian, -gn- does not pronounce the same way as in English.
It *has* been mentioned that since the Catholic Church has operated out of the city since the reign of Constantine Kin Slayer, the last nail in the coffin of the old empire was never actually driven home.
todays video friends, is this UAP evidence in Rome? ah shit! wrong channel!
No "byzantine"...Eastern Romans. Calling them "byzantines" would be the same as calling Americans as "Yankees".
1453
The fall of the Roman Empire began with Christianisation.
it was in 549 when the vengeful Ostrogoths decapitated classical culture
Arguably made it worse
LMAO. Is this supposed to convince somebody of something?
The Roman Empire as is commonly understood to have ended in 476AD when the last emperor, Romulus Augustulus, was deposed. There were rump states that lingered on, like Aegidius and Syagrius's, as well as Julius Nepos's. But their territories were not considered a continuation of the imperial monarchial line. The Eastern Roman Empire, AKA the Byzantine Empire, continued on for 1,000 years and the people there considered themselves to be Romans - however, they were a Greek civilization and not considered to be a continuation of the original Roman Empire. That is why historians label it the Byzantine Empire. It was in essence a new state that carried on some Roman traditions, like the consul or the term Caesar Augustus, but eventually even these were abandoned. And the primary reason the Roman Empire fell is because of civil wars. The civil wars caused all of the other issues that overwhelmed the Roman state. Due to internal divisions and constant bloodshed, the economy suffered and the borders were weakened and the barbarians took advantage of this. The eastern portion had a much more stable political situation. Theodosius II ruled for 42 years. Leo I for 16 years (and he got rid of the Goths). Zeno for 16. Anastasius for 27. The west had a succession of puppets come and go. After Valentinian III, Marcian 6 years, Petronius Maximus 6 months, Avitus 1 year, Majorian 3 years, Libius Severus 3 years, Anthemius 5 years, Olybrius 7 months, Glycerius 1 year, Nepos 1 year, Romulus 10 months. The civil wars and the subsequent degradation of the legions and reliance on barbarian mercenaries led to all of this upheaval.
Who are you trying to teach? Everybody who watches this channel knows this information already. And the dislike of the eastern roman empire and not considering it as a direct continuation of the Roman empire was propaganda made up by the holy Roman empire to give itself legitimacy and the term byzantine is used by even later sources just to discredit the east.
The rump states and even the germannic kingdoms still considered themselves Rome especially since many of the german kings of Italy still had the functioning Roman senate made up of Latin senatorial bloodlines. And everyonenof the time considered the eastern Roman's Roman or else they wouldn't have referred to them ad such. It's modern historians who are confused, the contemporaries of the time, not so much.
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