Me too. There were a few of those games in campaign, but suddenly they stopped. They could make a new campaign for 130 players next to the first one when they reach chapter 15, not finish, but reach, in which these types of puzzlegames are included
No new game modes. But it would be nice to have more of those minigames and animated story elements added to the campaign. Those added some fun flavor for the first 7 chapters.
@@thegreatbutterfly It's no use to add them to the campaign, because lots of players have done the campaign completely, I'm stuck on the very last lvl. and hope to get it done soon. So for those it's no use to add those mingames to the campaign. It could also be done in some type of new event they can create.
I can understand they reworked the prizes for inflation all over the world, but I don't like it that prices have gone up now, they could've taken the prizes down instead. I'm more likely not to buy as many things as I did befor, lots of stuff is too expensive now for me.
I always figured (just out of the blue) that valkyries' favor would be about what it would cost to operate the game and the additional spending would be profit. All spending does is quicken the time it takes to max out all your stuff because there IS a finite amount of stuff (even if they add more from time to time).
Call me mediocre or whatever, I'm enjoying the game the way I'm playing right now. 57 bucks in 16 months and my last payment was in April. For me is not worth it. I've learned to be patient and enjoy that pace. I also was able to grab good emeralds from Halloween cosplay contest which helped me a lot.
Having been a former whale and having played against the best teams in web version for over 3 yrs I confidently say that whales spend well in excess of $10k US dollar/yr. Anyone that has max titans, pets and over 8million hero power has spent closer to 50K on this game. You truly have no idea what a "REAL" whale spends in a competitive guild.
Thanks for sharing your (whale) view Jariss, this is what we were thinking! We are not big spenders ourselves, only buying small things here and there (mostly just season tickets) but somehow ended up in a Gold Guild where we THOUGHT we had pretty big spenders! So many buying those temporary boxes for events and stuff, Emerald packs every single x4 time, you know... And then CoW comes along. Suddenly our Guild gets BLOWN out of the water making our Guildies giants seem like mediocre at best?? And that is not even only lower/older servers, past week we faced whales from a server 11 numbers higher/newer! So yeah, the spending they must have done, would have to be waaaaay over 10k total!!
Probably true. Anyone noticed the amount of chaos cores from expeditions dropped. The frequency of expeditions with chaos core is less. A ploy to get you to buy valkyrie's favor?
135 servers x20 guilds (approx) x20players with VF= $127 000/month. Does this cover operation cost... barely. It's a 2D game nothing fancy. They aim at the whales so everything they do is to get the whales spending more every year. Meanwhile new players can't go as fast building powerful titans because they added light and shadow that is a waste really. Every time you pay for something other then the VF you are killing competition. Whales end up playing with whales and after awhile guild wars are just 2 fights a day!!! 5 min a day !!! cmon now!
Of course Nextar wants to get all money they can extract from you. But Valkyries Favor is just a small part of it. Your 500 Players make 10k on a server per month. On my server the top whale alone spends more than 10k per month. The whales spend ~60k on my server and then come the midrange players they spend 50-200 / per month. lets have 40 of them is another 40k. So the whales and the midrange players make each almost 50% of the gross income. The small players which only spend for Valkyries Favor still make a share and of course Nexter wants them but they are the small part.
How about playing sports with your friends (yes, outside), date girls, get out of your bedroom or parent's basement and go out and do things. Pretty sad to see grown adults still playing video games.
You don't care if they leave. I don't care if they leave. Nexter's doesn't care if they leave. I play the game for my own enjoyment and expect others do as well. I'll do so with or without the big spenders showing off.
Not sure on your numbers, I am in a gold guild, and we only have a couple doing VF in our guild, and I guarantee you no one in silver is. Maybe we are a dead server.
Like you said they must have good marketing because I never see any ads for it myself, I found this game through Clicker Heroes, but you see all these mobile games that have some really cool commercials like Raid: Shadow Legends with cool ass commercials but where are the cool ones for Hero Wars? 🙃
So they could just do another pack or a combined one for about 50 dollars a month and you would get more skinstones get easily a skin+ more titan artefactsm cheapes items on store.... cuz if thats what makes them pay for the game and were having 3 new skins every month and new heroes.... they should make the heroes easier to build
your math is screwed here, when you think whales uses this little, over the past 2 years u ysed about 1500$ a month, and i know atleast 50 players that uses alot more then me, 40 of those give or take stopped spending that i know of, so you can calulate that and see how many people who need to buy valks to make that up, this is on facebook btw. and 4000$ isnt a whale in this game,
The whales aren’t the major source of revenue for any p2p, micro transaction reliant game. What Charlie didn’t mention is that it’s also about new player downloads. Think about all the people who download the game, play for a couple months then move on. There’s probably 100 of them for every 1 player who plays for a whole year. That kind of player probably won’t be buying $100 gem packs right off the bat but $5 for Valkyries favor, which MASSIVELY increases the playability of the game is something most players can manage.
This is only a game RIGHT yet some have spent what could be a car or a house thats where i get upset a simple click click auto game costs more than a house What if in masses fewer and fewer buy valks perhaps spending less would be a good thing slow down a bit I dont think i will be playing for xmas this yr it would take a lot to chnage my mind but allowing us to choose which hero we get not just hero of the day and no one else and a really good emerald sale above the 4x now that theyve lowered the amount we get OR come up w a valks fav pets or valks fav ttians also ...Is Amon only good for dark? most of his skills are for dark not any
If you aren’t getting Valkyries favor the game is almost unplayable imo. I can’t imagine completing a UNITY OF EXTREMES or KEY TO ALL DOORS without being able to raid😂!!! The time it saves me is worth way more than $5. I wouldn’t have played this game without it. World of Warcraft is a totally different animal, it’s a full time job you pay to work where as Hero Wars is a 30min a day money pit 😂
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$120 a year, that could easily buy you a triple A game with multiple DLC's like Witcher 3 back when it released.
Just to get some perspective...
I just wish more of the adds made it in to the game, the tower fights would be a nice addition.
yep got trolled by those puzzles
Me too. There were a few of those games in campaign, but suddenly they stopped. They could make a new campaign for 130 players next to the first one when they reach chapter 15, not finish, but reach, in which these types of puzzlegames are included
No new game modes. But it would be nice to have more of those minigames and animated story elements added to the campaign. Those added some fun flavor for the first 7 chapters.
@@thegreatbutterfly It's no use to add them to the campaign, because lots of players have done the campaign completely, I'm stuck on the very last lvl. and hope to get it done soon. So for those it's no use to add those mingames to the campaign. It could also be done in some type of new event they can create.
I can understand they reworked the prizes for inflation all over the world, but I don't like it that prices have gone up now, they could've taken the prizes down instead. I'm more likely not to buy as many things as I did befor, lots of stuff is too expensive now for me.
I always figured (just out of the blue) that valkyries' favor would be about what it would cost to operate the game and the additional spending would be profit. All spending does is quicken the time it takes to max out all your stuff because there IS a finite amount of stuff (even if they add more from time to time).
Valkyrie's favor is actually a good deal. On FB/Web, it's $1.89usd/week.
Call me mediocre or whatever, I'm enjoying the game the way I'm playing right now. 57 bucks in 16 months and my last payment was in April. For me is not worth it. I've learned to be patient and enjoy that pace.
I also was able to grab good emeralds from Halloween cosplay contest which helped me a lot.
Awesome Charlie as always. Cheers man
Having been a former whale and having played against the best teams in web version for over 3 yrs I confidently say that whales spend well in excess of $10k US dollar/yr.
Anyone that has max titans, pets and over 8million hero power has spent closer to 50K on this game.
You truly have no idea what a "REAL" whale spends in a competitive guild.
Thanks for sharing your (whale) view Jariss, this is what we were thinking! We are not big spenders ourselves, only buying small things here and there (mostly just season tickets) but somehow ended up in a Gold Guild where we THOUGHT we had pretty big spenders! So many buying those temporary boxes for events and stuff, Emerald packs every single x4 time, you know... And then CoW comes along. Suddenly our Guild gets BLOWN out of the water making our Guildies giants seem like mediocre at best?? And that is not even only lower/older servers, past week we faced whales from a server 11 numbers higher/newer! So yeah, the spending they must have done, would have to be waaaaay over 10k total!!
Probably true. Anyone noticed the amount of chaos cores from expeditions dropped. The frequency of expeditions with chaos core is less. A ploy to get you to buy valkyrie's favor?
Well they also have remove cores from events. Only mostly get them summer/spookyfest thats it
I don't have VF and I play just fine!
(But I am thinking of getting VF at some point!)
135 servers x20 guilds (approx) x20players with VF= $127 000/month. Does this cover operation cost... barely. It's a 2D game nothing fancy. They aim at the whales so everything they do is to get the whales spending more every year. Meanwhile new players can't go as fast building powerful titans because they added light and shadow that is a waste really. Every time you pay for something other then the VF you are killing competition. Whales end up playing with whales and after awhile guild wars are just 2 fights a day!!! 5 min a day !!! cmon now!
Of course Nextar wants to get all money they can extract from you. But Valkyries Favor is just a small part of it. Your 500 Players make 10k on a server per month. On my server the top whale alone spends more than 10k per month. The whales spend ~60k on my server and then come the midrange players they spend 50-200 / per month. lets have 40 of them is another 40k. So the whales and the midrange players make each almost 50% of the gross income. The small players which only spend for Valkyries Favor still make a share and of course Nexter wants them but they are the small part.
Oh midrange is only 4k not 40k. That makes the whales share even bigger
How about playing sports with your friends (yes, outside), date girls, get out of your bedroom or parent's basement and go out and do things. Pretty sad to see grown adults still playing video games.
You don't care if they leave. I don't care if they leave. Nexter's doesn't care if they leave. I play the game for my own enjoyment and expect others do as well. I'll do so with or without the big spenders showing off.
Not sure on your numbers, I am in a gold guild, and we only have a couple doing VF in our guild, and I guarantee you no one in silver is. Maybe we are a dead server.
VF is less then a cup of Starbucks so yeah I get it renewed every 2 weeks one of the best values in the game
how come your Valkyrie gift gives you 2670 artefact coins ???
Like you said they must have good marketing because I never see any ads for it myself, I found this game through Clicker Heroes, but you see all these mobile games that have some really cool commercials like Raid: Shadow Legends with cool ass commercials but where are the cool ones for Hero Wars? 🙃
So they could just do another pack or a combined one for about 50 dollars a month and you would get more skinstones get easily a skin+ more titan artefactsm cheapes items on store.... cuz if thats what makes them pay for the game and were having 3 new skins every month and new heroes.... they should make the heroes easier to build
I wonder if they make more on advertising or micro transactions….. probably micro transactions but I’m interested to find out for sure. Any thoughts?
Luxury you can afford
your math is screwed here, when you think whales uses this little, over the past 2 years u ysed about 1500$ a month, and i know atleast 50 players that uses alot more then me, 40 of those give or take stopped spending that i know of, so you can calulate that and see how many people who need to buy valks to make that up, this is on facebook btw.
and 4000$ isnt a whale in this game,
could this be a good thing for weaker players we wont have to fight so many millionaires perhaps a restructuring of prices
not really. If there is no money, the game closes. Happened before with pay as you go games with falling speding.
i thought i had always heard you say that the whales pay for the game so we can play.. but this makes much more sense
The whales aren’t the major source of revenue for any p2p, micro transaction reliant game. What Charlie didn’t mention is that it’s also about new player downloads. Think about all the people who download the game, play for a couple months then move on. There’s probably 100 of them for every 1 player who plays for a whole year. That kind of player probably won’t be buying $100 gem packs right off the bat but $5 for Valkyries favor, which MASSIVELY increases the playability of the game is something most players can manage.
@@kylelenhoff8225 for me without valkyries favor this game would not be worth playing
100% agree
And do not forget about heroe's way
I can tell you have a financial background. Thanks for the information.
The money maker is what Charlie shakes and everyone knows it!
Makes so much sense.
Thanks Charlie
yep our servers whales are leaving and leaders dropping out
Guess you are right!
Imagine that ! ... 🙂 Whales could buy too many emerald offers, sometimes 🙂
This is only a game RIGHT yet some have spent what could be a car or a house thats where i get upset a simple click click auto game costs more than a house What if in masses fewer and fewer buy valks perhaps spending less would be a good thing slow down a bit I dont think i will be playing for xmas this yr it would take a lot to chnage my mind but allowing us to choose which hero we get not just hero of the day and no one else and a really good emerald sale above the 4x now that theyve lowered the amount we get OR come up w a valks fav pets or valks fav ttians also ...Is Amon only good for dark? most of his skills are for dark not any
Very true Charlie
Everything goes up $$$ People don’t have to spend too much on a game (average spenders)
Thanks Charlie, yep, VF is the money maker.
100% agree
More whales than that, tho...but yeah, I get what you're saying
Me alegro de que no tengo Money 💸💸💸💸😁😁😁😁
Those who spend on Valkyrie favor are idiots those are the people that are paying as much a month as a world of warcraft subscription
$10 a month is an idiot move? Pretty cheap entertainment budget. Cheaper than one movie night; way cheaper than a snobby coffee a day.
If you aren’t getting Valkyries favor the game is almost unplayable imo. I can’t imagine completing a UNITY OF EXTREMES or KEY TO ALL DOORS without being able to raid😂!!! The time it saves me is worth way more than $5. I wouldn’t have played this game without it. World of Warcraft is a totally different animal, it’s a full time job you pay to work where as Hero Wars is a 30min a day money pit 😂
i thing the paying will go down abit the next month but then each1 is back at useing at the new cost and the game will go on
Great plz spend less and less
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Anyone with perpetually active Valkyrie's Favor is 100% a whale.
hahahaha, Well maybe a minnow, or at most a salmon.
@@deborahgauvin44 A *minnow* pays
🙃
PLEASE WE NEED PLAYERS ON SERVER 18 ICE PEAKS