Who knows, it might be the best for low power, long duration use. Not enough power to accelerate itself like the others, or keep the weight moving, but the best of the three for prolonged use, like in a remote.
Energizer batteries are the only ones guaranteed not to leak. You sacrifice some battery capacity, but you avoid ruining your devices. The devices are worth a lot more than the batteries.
Nice. The Drag race test are bit useless since weight has a huge factor to boost up the acceleration received.. Really in that case you are testing the best Weight/Energy ratio but usually that's not what someone looks for when using that kind of batteries. The infinite loop test on the other hand is good because you are testing the accumulated Energy but you have to consider also in this case Weight that has influence on the circuit bending and so on the loss of energy. An accurate test would be the infinite loop with something holding the circuit firmly in place.
@@MrMichalUA-cam it may seem like that in fact that was my initial thought too. But think about that.. every one has different weight and so every one bends the circuit in a different way (that is a function of the weight itself) and so the loss of energy becomes also a function of the weight. (Imagine.. a lighter battery has little effect on the bending and so approximately all the energy is converted in loops, an heavy battery bends the circuit a lot and at the end it will show less loops than it's potential ones because some energy has been lost). Of course I'm taking this to an extreme (this effect could be irrelevant) but that's the physics behind the test.
Nah. Given that those 3 batteries are probably equal in volume, the weight is irrelevant. The one with the greatest power to weight ratio, will be the preferable battery. The lightest battery, with the most power output, is superior. If weight is added to the battery, in the form of metal or chemicals, it should only serve to provide more potential energy.
@@IemonIime It serves to prevent leaks in the Energizers. Energizers are heavier because they have a stronger steel casing. That's why Energizers are guaranteed to never leak and destroy your devices.
@@badon6480 If that is true, then the standard build for all batteries should have a leak proof casing considered when manufacturing. That should be the first priority, before power is even involved. If other companies are sacrificing safety for additional power thats not good, but energizer is still a weaker battery as a result. It lost the race, after all. Ive used all three and never had a leak once. However, i would rather use a safer, weaker battery in my electronics vs a more powerful one thats prone to failure.
This is super interesting. I know a bit about small battery formulation and I was watching the infinite loop with a dismissive eye. It deforms too easy, isn't the same shape each go and is just 'duration'. The duration test would only show you how long it went around in the crappy circle BUT it didn't count the times they went around in that time period. I'm not familiar with Varta but I know Duracell and Energizer are always competing and trying to one-up each other. In the 90's each really pushed on the AA batteries 'power' over 'longevity' to power electronic devices like Walk-Mans (high draw over a short period of time) vs powering a smoke detector (low draw over a long period of time). I assumed that the Energizer didn't last as long in the loop but went more times. The second test (straight line speed) really was surprising to me. I assumed the Energizer would walk away with the win. I think another test like this is in order, maybe a bad batch of Energizers? Also, make the loop more round and stable!
I've measured time of first 3 laps: E - 4,7; V - 4,1; D - 4,2 sec. Duracell - winner, Energizer sucks. Duracell is bit more heavyweight, e.g. have more friction.
It would be awesome to count the number of loops completed on the longevity tests. That way total work could be measured by multiplying its mass and total distance traveled. An optical counter and an arduino might be a really easy solution.
does it really matter? They were all AA batteries of the same size...the difference in weight is not that significant. Or you really care when buying your batteries what weight they are? If they are a gram or two heavier than some of their counterparts?
@@lukaskaucik8616 it's not the weight itself that I cared about, but weight directly impact things like acceleration, speed, friction, and therefore how long they last in these tests. That's why without knowing the weights, the results of these tests don't mean much about the performance of the batteries.
@@ianchen23 again, it does not matter, what matter is efficiency, the heavier one should have more energy...if it does not, it still means it is less efficient if it holds less energy per gram of weight...and the test will still show it...
@@lukaskaucik8616 You are right if the load is the batteries themselves. It's not the case if the battery is being used to drive say a fan, where the battery itself is stationary. Or even if you are using the battery in a toy car, most of the weight comes from the car, not the battery.
@@ianchen23 I get it but this is a test where three different brands are compared where the most efficient one wins no matter what....and it will be always the one that packs the most electrical charge per it`s weight...
Would have been interesting to know the actual number of loops each battery made in the infinity loop. Couldn't a battery move faster and do more loops but last less time? Eg. spending the same amount of energy but lasting less time, so you can't tell which one is best from just time alone?
I think the infinite loop test is flawed, there's nothing keeping the shape loops consistent other than the tape and the varta looks like it massively deflects the loop compared to the other 2 which would increase friction and decrease efficiency, perhaps if the loop was kept more round the test would be more fair?
@@MrMichalUA-cam Same loop but how the loop moves while the battery is going would change the friction on each battery. Another thing that would add variations to the test is how centered the magnets are on the different batteries.
@@iwanttoknowmore Also since the Varta is traveling faster it deflects the loop more intensely due to its increased kinetic energy. unless you had miles of straight tube it's tough to draw accurate information. Additionally the initial mass of each battery wasn't taken, the Energizer might be significantly heavier causing increased coefficient of friction, meaning it may be performing more work than the other two with no way for us to visualize it. A simple circuit with meters is a significantly better test of performance than this.
@@MrMichalUA-cam but if the Varta is stronger (which the later tests suggest), then it will waste a lot of energy deforming the loop and create more drag. Is there a way you could anchor the loop in place so there is no lateral movement and the tubing can't deform (maybe by glueing it to a baseboard or something)
Yes but i think the error % isnt so great to completely invalidate the experiment. At the very least some tube flexing isnt gonna make it last 10 minutes longer.
It would be best to randomize which battery takes which parallel track. Maybe the top track just had less resistance, but that kind of error could be corrected by averaging multiple runs across the various tracks.
I don't think that it's important to buy a battery, because it won the drag race. However, Duracell is the best option, because of its longer life. Varta is probably just a little lighter than Duracell, that's why it won the drag race
There is some black magic behind how batteries are formulated. You'll never hear Duracell claim to last 5% longer than Energizer or Energizer claim any number better than Duracell. When you formulate a battery two of the variables you try to balance are current and shelf-life. Batteries formulated for high-drain devices give more current, but don't last as long on the shelf or in devices when not being used. Batteries that have a really long shelf life don't give lots of current. Those are great for TV remotes and clocks, etc. So both Duracell and Energizer (and others) all try to guess what kind of mix of gadgets most people use. They average the number of high and low drain devices and try to average their formulas to hit that sweet spot to work pretty well in most of them. So depending on the devices you have, Duracells may work better in some, Energizers better in others. Also some trivia - In many cases Duracell and Energizer batteries come out of the same factory - they are private labels made by contract manufacturers.
I see a few people commenting about different factors within each battery, well if they so smart then it should easy to calculate the weith to time factor, right??? Video was good basic informative knowledge mr. Michael 👍👍👍
I do not buy Duracell anymore because the have a strong tendency to leak. I have so many ruined things, mostly caused by Duracell. Some things were also ruined by AC Delco AA batteries. Energizer has never leaked-now I see the downside.
I've measured time of first 3 laps: E - 4,7; V - 4,1; D - 4,2 sec. Duracell - winner, Energizer sucks. Duracell is bit more heavyweight, e.g. have more friction.
There is another potential problem with EVERY test on this video. To read the "DURACELL" name, this battery is run with the negative end first. The Varta and Energizer batteries both read with their positive end first. In order to be consistent, all three batteries must be put through the tests with either the positive or the negative ends first. This may be of no consequence but it is possible it does make a difference. Too bad. Minimize the variables and validate the test.
I'd like to see this test with the more expensive variants ie. Duracell Quantum, Energizer Ultimate Lithium, etc. I have also never heard of Vanta before. Not sure that I have every seen them in a store before so maybe they're Canadian or something? Also, would like to see this tested with the cheap alternate batteries that you can get at Walmart and such. The ones that you get like a 30 pack for $8.
Can we say Varta lasts less than Duracell, but despite last 10 minutes less, it's high speed makes last less? Maybe Duracell gives more total energy along time and Varta gives more power... I wonder how many cycles did Varta and Duracell, and how many laps did Varta in 27 minutes and how much Duracell in that 27 minutes... And total number of laps for that 37 minutes of Duracell. Doesn't appear reasonable Varta be able to achieve same number of laps then Duracell in that 10 extra minutes. Duracell for remote controls, Varta for RC cars toys
The magnets are probably reversed too. Resulting field strength should be the same, no matter which direction the battery faces, just the direction of the magnetic field will change. So by reversing the magnets and the battery, you get the same resulting force vector on the whole thing.
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Duracell for length, varta for speed. Energizer bad.
yes 👍
So basically Energizer batteries suck
Who knows, it might be the best for low power, long duration use. Not enough power to accelerate itself like the others, or keep the weight moving, but the best of the three for prolonged use, like in a remote.
but it is the cheapest 😀
Energizer batteries are the only ones guaranteed not to leak. You sacrifice some battery capacity, but you avoid ruining your devices. The devices are worth a lot more than the batteries.
Nice. The Drag race test are bit useless since weight has a huge factor to boost up the acceleration received.. Really in that case you are testing the best Weight/Energy ratio but usually that's not what someone looks for when using that kind of batteries. The infinite loop test on the other hand is good because you are testing the accumulated Energy but you have to consider also in this case Weight that has influence on the circuit bending and so on the loss of energy. An accurate test would be the infinite loop with something holding the circuit firmly in place.
I agree, but all the batteries have the same conditions
@@MrMichalUA-cam it may seem like that in fact that was my initial thought too. But think about that.. every one has different weight and so every one bends the circuit in a different way (that is a function of the weight itself) and so the loss of energy becomes also a function of the weight. (Imagine.. a lighter battery has little effect on the bending and so approximately all the energy is converted in loops, an heavy battery bends the circuit a lot and at the end it will show less loops than it's potential ones because some energy has been lost). Of course I'm taking this to an extreme (this effect could be irrelevant) but that's the physics behind the test.
Nah. Given that those 3 batteries are probably equal in volume, the weight is irrelevant. The one with the greatest power to weight ratio, will be the preferable battery. The lightest battery, with the most power output, is superior. If weight is added to the battery, in the form of metal or chemicals, it should only serve to provide more potential energy.
@@IemonIime It serves to prevent leaks in the Energizers. Energizers are heavier because they have a stronger steel casing. That's why Energizers are guaranteed to never leak and destroy your devices.
@@badon6480 If that is true, then the standard build for all batteries should have a leak proof casing considered when manufacturing. That should be the first priority, before power is even involved. If other companies are sacrificing safety for additional power thats not good, but energizer is still a weaker battery as a result. It lost the race, after all. Ive used all three and never had a leak once. However, i would rather use a safer, weaker battery in my electronics vs a more powerful one thats prone to failure.
This is super interesting. I know a bit about small battery formulation and I was watching the infinite loop with a dismissive eye. It deforms too easy, isn't the same shape each go and is just 'duration'. The duration test would only show you how long it went around in the crappy circle BUT it didn't count the times they went around in that time period. I'm not familiar with Varta but I know Duracell and Energizer are always competing and trying to one-up each other. In the 90's each really pushed on the AA batteries 'power' over 'longevity' to power electronic devices like Walk-Mans (high draw over a short period of time) vs powering a smoke detector (low draw over a long period of time). I assumed that the Energizer didn't last as long in the loop but went more times. The second test (straight line speed) really was surprising to me. I assumed the Energizer would walk away with the win. I think another test like this is in order, maybe a bad batch of Energizers? Also, make the loop more round and stable!
I've measured time of first 3 laps: E - 4,7; V - 4,1; D - 4,2 sec. Duracell - winner, Energizer sucks. Duracell is bit more heavyweight, e.g. have more friction.
It would be awesome to count the number of loops completed on the longevity tests. That way total work could be measured by multiplying its mass and total distance traveled. An optical counter and an arduino might be a really easy solution.
Awesome 👍 Go Varta Go.
These tests do not consider weight differences between batteries
does it really matter? They were all AA batteries of the same size...the difference in weight is not that significant. Or you really care when buying your batteries what weight they are? If they are a gram or two heavier than some of their counterparts?
@@lukaskaucik8616 it's not the weight itself that I cared about, but weight directly impact things like acceleration, speed, friction, and therefore how long they last in these tests. That's why without knowing the weights, the results of these tests don't mean much about the performance of the batteries.
@@ianchen23 again, it does not matter, what matter is efficiency, the heavier one should have more energy...if it does not, it still means it is less efficient if it holds less energy per gram of weight...and the test will still show it...
@@lukaskaucik8616 You are right if the load is the batteries themselves. It's not the case if the battery is being used to drive say a fan, where the battery itself is stationary. Or even if you are using the battery in a toy car, most of the weight comes from the car, not the battery.
@@ianchen23 I get it but this is a test where three different brands are compared where the most efficient one wins no matter what....and it will be always the one that packs the most electrical charge per it`s weight...
Cant wait for the enigizer dmca notice
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Would have been interesting to know the actual number of loops each battery made in the infinity loop. Couldn't a battery move faster and do more loops but last less time? Eg. spending the same amount of energy but lasting less time, so you can't tell which one is best from just time alone?
Add sports commentary on this and you struck gold.
Ah yes, the MarbleLympics success format.
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I dare someone to try this with an 18650 cell.
How bout a 21700 lol
I'll see your 18650 and raise you a car battery
With unprotected 30A max cell!
Duracell's bunny does not lie to me since my childhood. I can live with that
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Duracell used the bunny first and then Energizer copied it and kept using it when Duracell went to some other ad campaign.
Man traps electric mouse in tube until it dies.
Real life watermark is the best thing ever
That's so so so cool
Thank you
I think the infinite loop test is flawed, there's nothing keeping the shape loops consistent other than the tape and the varta looks like it massively deflects the loop compared to the other 2 which would increase friction and decrease efficiency, perhaps if the loop was kept more round the test would be more fair?
but all the batteries had the same loop
@@MrMichalUA-cam Same loop but how the loop moves while the battery is going would change the friction on each battery. Another thing that would add variations to the test is how centered the magnets are on the different batteries.
@@iwanttoknowmore Also since the Varta is traveling faster it deflects the loop more intensely due to its increased kinetic energy. unless you had miles of straight tube it's tough to draw accurate information. Additionally the initial mass of each battery wasn't taken, the Energizer might be significantly heavier causing increased coefficient of friction, meaning it may be performing more work than the other two with no way for us to visualize it. A simple circuit with meters is a significantly better test of performance than this.
@@MrMichalUA-cam but if the Varta is stronger (which the later tests suggest), then it will waste a lot of energy deforming the loop and create more drag. Is there a way you could anchor the loop in place so there is no lateral movement and the tubing can't deform (maybe by glueing it to a baseboard or something)
Yes but i think the error % isnt so great to completely invalidate the experiment. At the very least some tube flexing isnt gonna make it last 10 minutes longer.
There is something I like about the fact that you just have a box of coiled copper wire
Fun video, thanks. Comments criticizing the silliness of this silly test ftw!
thanks for support 👍
Got this off reddit
Thanks for the info !
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Battery drag race...well, i guess i learned something new today.
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It would be best to randomize which battery takes which parallel track. Maybe the top track just had less resistance, but that kind of error could be corrected by averaging multiple runs across the various tracks.
Do this with the procell, high energy, and industrial lines please
Ok, this is pretty awesome.
Thank you.
Publicite varta,c est tout!
Дюраселл рулит !
This needs to be done on a few different formats..like NiMh batteries, lithium batteries, and niCads. Then against each other.
lithium would win hands down.. They arent nearly as limited by high draw applications :)
I don't think that it's important to buy a battery, because it won the drag race. However, Duracell is the best option, because of its longer life. Varta is probably just a little lighter than Duracell, that's why it won the drag race
How did I get here, I love this
I'm subscribing with the intent to watch the follow up which takes advice from the comments and adds more brands.
Nice! Your videos are the best. I look forward to your next video. 😀
Thank you so much 👍
Файно! Молодці!
Expensive for the future,
I mean a real life electric gravity magnet train.
Energizer management sweatin
Neat.
👍
I wonder how the new Duracell Optimum would rate?
Cool video.
Thanks.
There is some black magic behind how batteries are formulated. You'll never hear Duracell claim to last 5% longer than Energizer or Energizer claim any number better than Duracell.
When you formulate a battery two of the variables you try to balance are current and shelf-life.
Batteries formulated for high-drain devices give more current, but don't last as long on the shelf or in devices when not being used.
Batteries that have a really long shelf life don't give lots of current. Those are great for TV remotes and clocks, etc.
So both Duracell and Energizer (and others) all try to guess what kind of mix of gadgets most people use. They average the number of high and low drain devices and try to average their formulas to hit that sweet spot to work pretty well in most of them. So depending on the devices you have, Duracells may work better in some, Energizers better in others.
Also some trivia - In many cases Duracell and Energizer batteries come out of the same factory - they are private labels made by contract manufacturers.
I see a few people commenting about different factors within each battery, well if they so smart then it should easy to calculate the weith to time factor, right??? Video was good basic informative knowledge mr. Michael 👍👍👍
You should test IKEA's batteries, they truly are the best for a fraction of the price
And they also leak much more often.
That Adidas...man you're a slav
Would guess the VARTA has a slightly higher voltage out of the box. Did you take a reading with a multimeter?
They use the same chemical reaction so it is not likely. My guessing is that Varta has lower internal resistance and therefore gives higher current.
магнитное поле, разность потенциалов, механическая энергия... )) Занятно, что-то типа ротора электродвигателя.
Would this work for testing duracell vs lithium batteries too?
It's like rail gun stuff.
What my neighbour is doing at 2 am
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I guess I'm buying Duracell from now on since they look like they last longer in my infinite loop setups. lol
One question, can I try to do it at home?
DURACELL
varta master race crew checking in
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Definetely want to know how many laps did each, this would be a much more relevant information the time it last
I do not buy Duracell anymore because the have a strong tendency to leak. I have so many ruined things, mostly caused by Duracell. Some things were also ruined by AC Delco AA batteries. Energizer has never leaked-now I see the downside.
WOW, i never heard of Varta batteries.
Battery Varta are known only in Europe MAYBE
I guess it cannot tell anything, since tests are conducted in non normal usage conditions. Right? (Plus no replicates for statistical analysis)
I've measured time of first 3 laps: E - 4,7; V - 4,1; D - 4,2 sec. Duracell - winner, Energizer sucks. Duracell is bit more heavyweight, e.g. have more friction.
So assuming weight is the same, the varta starts with a higher initial voltage and the duracell can keep the voltage up for longer?
probably yes
...Neighbours hate this simple trick
I have no neighbors 😀
never trustin the Energizer bunny again
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Duracell wasn't lying when they said they have good batteries
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So THERE'S where all the copper went!
There is another potential problem with EVERY test on this video. To read the "DURACELL" name, this battery is run with the negative end first. The Varta and Energizer batteries both read with their positive end first. In order to be consistent, all three batteries must be put through the tests with either the positive or the negative ends first. This may be of no consequence but it is possible it does make a difference. Too bad. Minimize the variables and validate the test.
Magnet size ( diameter) should be slightly greater than the battery size. This wire is the same enameled wire which is used for motor winding?
You can also see it spinning whenever it's on the path of coil due to magnetic field.
Could you give me the thick magnet information of diameter size?
I'd like to see this test with the more expensive variants ie. Duracell Quantum, Energizer Ultimate Lithium, etc. I have also never heard of Vanta before. Not sure that I have every seen them in a store before so maybe they're Canadian or something? Also, would like to see this tested with the cheap alternate batteries that you can get at Walmart and such. The ones that you get like a 30 pack for $8.
I thought to try to compare with Duracel and Ikea batteries
Plz tell me Duracell wins
Yes and no 😀
That is sooo cool!!!
Thank you !
These were all fresh from the package?
yes
nice video....keep up and u will be big one day
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The poor AA cells have claustrophobia 🤔
did the varta win because the +ve is facing the end point?
Are we witnessing beginning of a new Olympic sport?
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Can we say Varta lasts less than Duracell, but despite last 10 minutes less, it's high speed makes last less?
Maybe Duracell gives more total energy along time and Varta gives more power...
I wonder how many cycles did Varta and Duracell, and how many laps did Varta in 27 minutes and how much Duracell in that 27 minutes... And total number of laps for that 37 minutes of Duracell.
Doesn't appear reasonable Varta be able to achieve same number of laps then Duracell in that 10 extra minutes.
Duracell for remote controls, Varta for RC cars toys
What length of copper did you start out with?
What gauge copper wire, and where do you buy the batteries? Give us some links please.
Do the loop test with car batteries!!
it is probably impossible 😂
that's probably impossible 😀
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So varta uses more power but last less..and duracell last longer..so its true
How fresh were the batteries compared to one another?
each battery for each test was new
do it with tube pipes
Is this basic how rail guns work?
On a very loose proof of principle, yes- but not really
Duracell
How to set up the double stick??
These Duracell commercials are really getting out of hand
it's not advertising, I don't take any money for it
He should have switched tracks during the drag race
Does work Lithium ion (cylinder's shape) battery ?
Faltó sacar la cuenta quien dió más vueltas en el Infinity loop
too bad you forgot lidl's AEROCELL
please race Amazon Batteries!!
I've never heard of varta before. Is it a store brand or something? Maybe not big in America?
This brand is known in Europe. Maybe not in America
@@MrMichalUA-cam got ya. Thanks for the reply. Great vid.
Расскажите это проволка сталистая или медная?
I hope you don't have neighbours downstairs.
no 😀
bateries should be the same diameter
The better batteries are heavier so they ride slower
que numero de hilo de cobre esmaltado utiliza
How do to control on this battery
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Where do you get the copper coils from?
from cables
@@MrMichalUA-cam So you wound your own coils by hand?
Why is the duracell battery reversed with the + side pointing backward? The other two have their + side pointed forward.
The magnets are probably reversed too. Resulting field strength should be the same, no matter which direction the battery faces, just the direction of the magnetic field will change. So by reversing the magnets and the battery, you get the same resulting force vector on the whole thing.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING FORM OF RACING.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT DONE WITH A CHILD IN PLACE OF A ¿DOG?