That's a beautiful engine turbo set up.AND YES DRAW THROUGHS DO FUCKING WORK.The Australians have a rx3 with some weird drawthrough system were they eliminate the float and run instead some soft material.They have a return fuel line and 2 vacuum regulators.Some weird shir.It looked awesome on fotos and it ran 8 seconds around 150something mph.It had a big sidedraft weber.And BIG BOOST
I just installed a pertronic on my 72 2.0 Pinto with the Flam thrower coil as a kit I goit from ebay. I reset the timing, drove it and it kicks ass, 80 miles later it starts back firing and powering down on my way to the swap meet, tac jumps to zero then back up to normal. I pull over and car idles fine. but as i get in the gas it's having trouble picking up to speed while I'm letting the clutch out, I feather it, it gets going then bogs and backfires LOUD, lol at least 20-30 times while I'm getting her home about 5 miles away. I switch out the coil, still the same. then I start checking coil wire, alternator wires and a few other connections, No it's seems ok, I wish I knew what cause this for future outings.
i think i learned a few things while messing with draw thru on my 280z. the silicon hose collapsing shows the vacuum when the carb throttle is closed-that's what sucks oil out of a non carbon sealed turbo. that oil goes into the combustion chamber. reading many online sources have led me to believe there needs to be a vacuum control valve/bypass valve between carb and turbo and turbo and intake manifold. this will pull air/fuel through the bypass valve when idle-limiting turbo oil sucking. my issue is, should the valve be the entire diameter of of intake adapter between carb and turbo, or a port from the intake adapter? from online searching, the 4 barrel style "bypass valve" plumbing looked to be 3 inches in diameter. is that too much, not enough, or just right? im thinking it should be the same diameter of intake when bypass valve is closed on boost. help me, please. :)
Thanks , no not really any updates, I have no use for it , just had to build it :-) , no did not fit a carbon seal, but I will if it starts to suck oil thru
@@heinebach3674 listen. How did u build the intake for the Weber carb. I am seriously about done with this Lima. 😂 I’ve had it. I’m about to torch the damn thing. Their idea was stupid of this motor.
This thread is like a time machine for me - I built a nearly identical kit in the late 70's for my 2L Pinto (EAO eng.). With a draw through system like this there is no excess pressure. The carb throttle plates choke off the inlet side so the compressor output side can go negative (i.e. vacuum) when you let off the throttle. The boost pressure is controlled by the piece you see installed in the crossover pipe going to the intake manifold. Using a preset spring, a shuttle would move to restrict the airflow as maximum boost setting was approached. This reduced the exhaust output and therefore the compressor boost. Very primitive by today's standards but it worked. I typically ran 8 psi (0.55 bar) and put over 100k miles on that build. The only failure was the T4 carbon seal at about 65k miles.
@@2103i Since the carburetor is on the inlet side of the compressor, it functions as if on a normally aspirated engine. That allows you to use the carburetor port for the vacuum advance on the distributor as it never sees boost pressure. In addition, the mechanical advance was altered with heavier springs on the fly-weights. This raised the RPM point where you had full total timing advance.
Something like this won't make big power due to the intake set up but I'm betting its very torquey and nice to drive not having to rev the balls off it..
@@fredscott4859 Well , I have no use for this engine, it was more proof of concept and a challenge to myself to build a compact draw thru setup ...if need be I have a AFR sender location on downpipe and will be able to tune it propperly , I also have several timing retard options both mechanical and eletrical build in my setup.
Can´t even really remember the process any more, look at the date of the video , it has been sold many years ago from memory to a Robin Hood kit car (road legal), and I have been making a lot of engines since, intrest in making more seems to grind to a stop around build no. 30 Pinto engine ...sorry
hello, what carburetor are you using? Some DHLA/DCOE 45mm? Im planning to copy your setup (without the piston drilling) and use 0.5bar boost, but use 2 twin horizontal 40mm carbs.
That’s the most rattle free quiet nice sounding pinto I’ve ever heard nice job
Sounds very good, and nice to see a draw thru set up !
That's a beautiful engine turbo set up.AND YES DRAW THROUGHS DO FUCKING WORK.The Australians have a rx3 with some weird drawthrough system were they eliminate the float and run instead some soft material.They have a return fuel line and 2 vacuum regulators.Some weird shir.It looked awesome on fotos and it ran 8 seconds around 150something mph.It had a big sidedraft weber.And BIG BOOST
I just installed a pertronic on my 72 2.0 Pinto with the Flam thrower coil as a kit I goit from ebay. I reset the timing, drove it and it kicks ass, 80 miles later it starts back firing and powering down on my way to the swap meet, tac jumps to zero then back up to normal. I pull over and car idles fine. but as i get in the gas it's having trouble picking up to speed while I'm letting the clutch out, I feather it, it gets going then bogs and backfires LOUD, lol at least 20-30 times while I'm getting her home about 5 miles away. I switch out the coil, still the same. then I start checking coil wire, alternator wires and a few other connections, No it's seems ok, I wish I knew what cause this for future outings.
Dam my sierra has this engine I wish I had the skills to build something like this
det ser sgu godt ud Heine :-)
Any chance of the music ? Great job by the way
Hello, this is a great engine.
Very good work.
Where can you get such an exhaust manifold?
best regards Michael
thanks , Nissan DET manifold turned up side down and flanges done to meet Ford
Nice cam cover
Bravo
what pistons u used
Any thought on recreating the components to sell a kit?
what do you need to change inside the carb?, great job!
i think i learned a few things while messing with draw thru on my 280z. the silicon hose collapsing shows the vacuum when the carb throttle is closed-that's what sucks oil out of a non carbon sealed turbo. that oil goes into the combustion chamber. reading many online sources have led me to believe there needs to be a vacuum control valve/bypass valve between carb and turbo and turbo and intake manifold. this will pull air/fuel through the bypass valve when idle-limiting turbo oil sucking. my issue is, should the valve be the entire diameter of of intake adapter between carb and turbo, or a port from the intake adapter? from online searching, the 4 barrel style "bypass valve" plumbing looked to be 3 inches in diameter. is that too much, not enough, or just right? im thinking it should be the same diameter of intake when bypass valve is closed on boost. help me, please. :)
Great Job...😍 What ur turbocharger specs ?
Why draw thru instead of blow thru?
Hey man this is a really cool build. Any updates? Did you fit a carbon seal to the turbo?
Thanks , no not really any updates, I have no use for it , just had to build it :-) , no did not fit a carbon seal, but I will if it starts to suck oil thru
@@heinebach3674 listen. How did u build the intake for the Weber carb. I am seriously about done with this Lima. 😂 I’ve had it. I’m about to torch the damn thing. Their idea was stupid of this motor.
is there any need for a BOV? and if so, where would it go?
No need for a bov. When you let off accelerator on the carb it causes a vacuum so no need
Hi, where does excess pressure Gasoline and air mixtures escape when letting off gas?
nowhere lol
This thread is like a time machine for me - I built a nearly identical kit in the late 70's for my 2L Pinto (EAO eng.). With a draw through system like this there is no excess pressure. The carb throttle plates choke off the inlet side so the compressor output side can go negative (i.e. vacuum) when you let off the throttle. The boost pressure is controlled by the piece you see installed in the crossover pipe going to the intake manifold. Using a preset spring, a shuttle would move to restrict the airflow as maximum boost setting was approached. This reduced the exhaust output and therefore the compressor boost. Very primitive by today's standards but it worked. I typically ran 8 psi (0.55 bar) and put over 100k miles on that build. The only failure was the T4 carbon seal at about 65k miles.
@@tatdexter2334 How did you managed the ignition advnace? I suppose the original distributors membrnae can not handle vaccum and boost as well.
@@2103i Since the carburetor is on the inlet side of the compressor, it functions as if on a normally aspirated engine. That allows you to use the carburetor port for the vacuum advance on the distributor as it never sees boost pressure. In addition, the mechanical advance was altered with heavier springs on the fly-weights. This raised the RPM point where you had full total timing advance.
@@tatdexter2334 Simple and clever idea, thanks!
Nice idea, But I'm not a fan of fuel going into the turbo, could pre ignite under heavy use.
How 🤣🤣?
@@Micha-sk8dr pre ignite, From Heat, Have you ever seen a Turbo Glow Red, I have. ua-cam.com/video/c2eWHNSaSZU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Fullboost
Something like this won't make big power due to the intake set up but I'm betting its very torquey and nice to drive not having to rev the balls off it..
nice project.... which music track is?
I dont recal , some copyright I spottet online some time ago :-)
love to find out .....
Full Moon (Original Mix)- Gehringer
@@nickaron007 can't find it !!!
Well done ! BTW what music ?
it looks really good, fine setup👍👍nice job.
which turbo and carburetor have you used.
carb is weber 45 DCOE if i see right
What carb and turbo did you use? Also, what tuning did you have to do to the carb?? Thanks
45 DCOE and china turbo (Nissan CA18DET copy) tunning , around +50% on all types of jets
Heine Bach thanks! You’re happy to tune through trial and error then? I am thinking of using a Garrett T3, not sure what carb to use
Heine Bach currently using Weber 34 ICH
@@fredscott4859 Well , I have no use for this engine, it was more proof of concept and a challenge to myself to build a compact draw thru setup ...if need be I have a AFR sender location on downpipe and will be able to tune it propperly , I also have several timing retard options both mechanical and eletrical build in my setup.
Heine Bach yes that all seems sensible, AFR would definately need monitoring. How long did it take you?
If you could walk me through the steps you too build this I would be ever grateful! Or if you wanted to sell it lol
Can´t even really remember the process any more, look at the date of the video , it has been sold many years ago from memory to a Robin Hood kit car (road legal), and I have been making a lot of engines since, intrest in making more seems to grind to a stop around build no. 30 Pinto engine ...sorry
Hey, looking to do this setup with my 2 liter 924, what did you do for a bov or did you just not plumb one?
You might want to forget a BOV on this type setup ..if you want the bonnet to still be attached to the hinges.
There’s no need for a blow off valve when the throttle plate is on the low pressure side of the turbo.
Where did you get those engine mounts from ?
I made them
@@heinebach3674 for what car? Would make some for a mk1 escort?
@@darrynwalker268 Escort mk2
@@heinebach3674 would you make some more to sell?
@@darrynwalker268 I did make 10 pair many years ago all sold now..they are to expencive to make.
Nice build. What kind of turbo have you used, did you have to modify it for a carbon seal?
chinese i think
hello, what carburetor are you using? Some DHLA/DCOE 45mm? Im planning to copy your setup (without the piston drilling) and use 0.5bar boost, but use 2 twin horizontal 40mm carbs.
fajs
Er dette en motor du har tenkt til å selge ? :)
Ja måske , hvis prisen er rigtig :-) , men den har ikke været billig og lave.
Ja jää!
how much boost you take and how about compression ratio? work on standart compression?
0.7 bar and compression is 8.6:1 (with Victor Reinz cossie YB head gasket) and I have made domes in piston crowns
@@heinebach3674 isnt the engine unballanced bcause of having less material on the pistons?
@@heinebach3674 what have you done to the turbo
Alguno sabe porque arranca tan fácil? Saludos!
Hey,
do you have interest to sell this engine.
YES
205 engine
Максимально неправильно собрано!
Terrible idea. The power output of the engine will limited by the size of the carburettor venturi’s. Which are small !
Why is everyone thinking about power ? That was never the goal!
However its living in a super seven now...and guess what, its too power full 🤔😂
@@heinebach3674 Do you know how much power it makes? Or an estimate maybe?
@@HellboyKommentiert I don't know and owner have not had it tested yet , I will estimate around 185HP , not big numbers but quite a cool sound track
@@heinebach3674 Do you think this would be a good powerplant for a capri 3?