***** what are you talking about , every exhaust system makes different sounds this uses what every other manufacturers use today . controlled by flaps diverting exhaust to another section within the exhaust to make it quieter sound or moves it to another section for a louder sound. please explain ? sound still comes through the exhaust system whats so fake about this? BMW use speakers for sound ! thats fake!!
where exactly does he say this , its a tuned exhaust system no different to any tuned exhaust system - do you have any idea how an exhaust system works, i cannot believe im having this conversation with you, so what your saying is every car with an exhaust has a fake sound!!! WTF So,,, lets see ,,if i remove the current exhaust system and replace it with an aftermarket, 1, it will not meet current regulation EPA testing and yes the sound will be deeper, louder and more wild - is this fake also ? all exhaust systems are bent and baffled to accommodate a certain sound. i will use the old M3 4litre V8 ,,sound was quiet from factory however an after market exhaust system made the car ,,4 litre V8 sound AWSAME - so the after market exhaust system made the car louder and deeper - i guess this is fake according you.
Tsalis C You are the man! That is what I wanted to tell this guy but I could not find the words since I am unaware of the actual technical knowhow, but all I know is that car makers spend a good amount of time audio engineering the sound of their cars. Toyota enlisted the help of Yamaha to craft the sound of the lexus LFA for instance.
Faisal Haque My memory says BMW was one of the first to ruin their own well planned naming scheme by calling their 4.4ltr v8 a '45' then following it up with calling their 4.8ltr v8 a '50'. I'm sure Mercedes would use the same line of reasoning as BMW use to use. They claimed the number does not represent the actual displacement of the engine, but it represents that the engine makes as much power as a ________ displacement engine. With the C63 they would say, It may only be 4.0ltrs displacement, however it makes equivalent power to a 6.3ltr engine. Also, all the 80 year olds in my area driving around in amg's at 15mph below the speed limit who walked into the dealer and just went for the most expensive version they could get would be upset if this years badge number was lower than last years badge number, they'd feel like they bought the inferior car with a lower badge number. I do however agree and miss the days when the badge on the rear told you what the engine actually was.
thesulo12 The translate feature doesn't seem to be able to translate your comment. Could you please re-post what you said in a way that english readers might understand? Thank you.
Great video, I like the quick background on turbo-charging history and operation. Xcar always gives more than just a car review in its films. Even the autoshow videos delve in to the background of where the cars come from and why the new model is important. And as always the presentation and camera work is excellent!
Mr Xcar unlike quite a few folks expressed their dislike for you guys not following the "guide lines of youtube car review (drive in the road, go to track, do side ways slow motion, do lap time,end)", i am extremely pleased with this video and i absolute encourage and praise Xcarfilms UNIQUE and outside the box content, it is absolutely refreshing to see the same car being reviewed yet on a completely different platform of display, and that perhaps the biggest brilliance of your film crew and efforts, as for the car, i think ive found my new dream car (dream car as of the list i could afford it) for the longest ive been a BMW fan but that for quite some time is no more (the BMW's i fell love with been off the production line for decades now), so with the new GT and this new C63S to me are simply stunning piece of machines, can't help to to think Mercedes are on a row,pushing beautiful cars off their factory and completely dominating F1. Anyway yeah thanks for reading my comment and i look forward to see Xcarfilms personal, unique and outside the "standards" reviews to come, cheers!
***** Except the M4 is a coupe and this is a saloon...and the M4 has 424 BHP where as this has 503 BHP..as well as a much more advanced rear differential, it also makes more torque and sounds better, without the need for lame virtual sound. I love BMW, but they can't compete here. The C63 is another level above it. Not sure therefore how the M4 could be 'way' better. Sure its an awesome car..but way better?
The comp pack car will be great no doubt about it, but it won't be able to compete in terms of power. Im not sure how this sounds like a diesel lol, man that must be an intense diesel. The M3/4 are great cars, but the one area they did fail was the noise. Truly lacking. No where near the awesomeness of something like a CSL E46. AMG have BMW well and truly beat when it comes to noise.
Dude its not exactly fake, it just uses valves within the exhaust system. Lots of vehicles do. It still makes a better noise than the M3/4 which every single reviewer has noted is extremely muted and characterless.
Josh Charlie I agree this sounds better but I wouldn't say the M4 is muted haha not in sport mode and at full chat. I think externally the M3/M4 looks like it's been built for the purpose it was made for. This car looks like the power side of it was an after thought and the main concern was the diesel line up for fleet cars etc. Maybe the coupe will look better. The interior however looks like a more interesting place to be than the M3/M4's although I wouldn't say it wasn't a pleasant place to be. The power side of things... it wouldn't suprise me in the slightest if the M4 could have this off round the track. The HP figure being pretty much just a bragging tool. I don't know if that's the case, I could be totally wrong. Either way at the moment I'm really not a fan of this cars external styling it just looks boring man, especially in comparison to the last one (which was understated in it's own right)
Lovely car. Seriously nice. Looks great and sounds pretty nice. One thing though, surely the engine won't last as long as the 6.2 did because it's under much more pressure. Going to smaller engines is not always good.
i think its perfect that this videos talks about what turbos are about, because the last 6.2l engine was so good and people must know why turbos found their way into the new 63 without making the car less exciting
Nice review. But glad I got a 2015 C63 coupe with the non-turbo 6.2L V8 while I still was able to. There is no match for a normally aspirated engine when it comes to throttle response and sound. The reviews of the new 4L are positive, but note that no one is saying it sounds better than the 6.2L, or has better throttle response, because it simply doesn't.
It doesn't matter how much engineering has gone into the engine and exhaust note, the naturally aspirated engine was is and will FOREVER BE THE BEST SOUNDING ENGINE EVER. Heck if your really keen on buying something with this new car looks get rid of the engine (sell it on ebay or make a living room show piece) although I doubt the wife will let you do that and then throw in a 6.3 litre into the car. New looks good ol sound and engine.
great review, but i dont think fuel economy regulations is a problem for performance cars, autonomous cars are the real threat to fun fast cars and auto enthusiast.
Honestly, autonomous cars are what we desperately need, at least in the US. So many drivers are horrible, and taking the ones that don't care out of the equation would benefit everyone.
Gavin756 unless you live in a communist dictatorship or something, you'll be able to drive what you want/can pay for. Autonomous cars will keep the stupid people from ruining it for us.
I disliked this video and I want to give my reason for it: This video spends half of it's time explaining the general history of the turbo and the need for it due to new emission and fuel economy regulations issued by the EU. It was very interesting to listen to, however, the title of the video was the Mercedes-AMG C 63 S and I expected to see a caar review. Please don't mix up some generic "turbo documentary" into your car review videos. Thanks.
perhaps a chance to educate the public with why and what is a turbo and why is in the new engine and what to expect for is completely relevant to the content of what is a car review, perhaps what you should translate your thought could be: didn't met YOUR personal expectation there for it dont meant what you perhaps like, will suit the rest of us, which already we have a premium example that some prefer images, and others prefer images with information, now dont go all butthurt you had your chance to voice your thoughts i just had mine.
***** that's the beauty of it tho, there is so many reviews already for this car, you have Autocar, Chirs Harris, Motortrend, few youtubers already, so if you think, if they all follow the same exact concept how boring would that be?, i think here Xcar showed you a little more, instead of a slow motion drift scene they educated where turbo's came from, perhaps instead of showing how much options cost, they educated the public rather the turbo interact with the experience of driving this car or not and so on, they realized that the obvious stuff have already been done, so they went outside the box to give you, and me and everyone else some fresh to look at, and that my friend is brilliance, cheers!
Elbowz Yeah, I know. I've heard it before on every other car review on the planet where they had to go smaller displacement or fewer cylinders, but still wanted to maintain their previous model's total power output. Truely innovative, highly educating. Now I know exactly why I should buy a Mercedes-AMG C 63 S. Because turbos', you know... (-_ - ') Seriously tho: I appreciate your effort, but I'm not entirely convinced by your arguments. I do not see myself as an Xcar fanboy, nor hater, and I have also subscribed to all other car-mags you have mentioned above (and more). Sure, it's not a given that my expectations are always met, but A) that's also true for any other car-mag and B) my expectations are hardly ever matched. I just wanted to get off my chest what I found, IMHO, as an unnecessary, too unspecific, but foremost overly long excourse. If it wasn't about the overall length and the fact that it took roughly 50% it the whole video... I probably wouldn't even have bothered to write a comment at all. And if they actually bring a turbo take that's more generic and covers all the new cars I would find that a great addition. Finding good & speaking titles for videos is not completely irrelevant and to the very least it's not entirely the viewer's fault, if any expectations are not met. Don't you agree?
I was hoping for a bit mote visual aggression. I don't think it looks special enough. Like with the previous C-Class, once the more inferior models have donned their option AMG sports kit then this new C63 will be virtually indistinguishable from your local mini cab. Love the interior though and 500+ bhp that is truly crazy!
Yes , its nice , but I'm gonna miss the old friend C63 AMG W204 . It was nicer on look , has a great performance too , I liked it natural aspirated engine , had a really monster 6208 cc V8 with no Turbo or Supercharger , as I know engines that doesn't have boost can live longer , as I know large pistons live longer , as I know the 6208cc V8 has 776 cc per cylinder and this sounds nice to me . I haven't seen a w205 model in a 2 door coupe yet . I haven't seen a Black Series version yet . That's why I gonna miss W204 .
the last gen c63 is one of my all time favorite mercedes in almost all versions (especially the estate!) next to the 190E 2.5 i reserve judgement on this after i see a black series version but this doesnt do much for me. the amg gt however might sway me from porsche
The issue isn't actually fuel consumption, but emissions. The EU has set emissions targets - something like 95g/km in 2020 for each carmakers' range, with huge penalties if they don't comply.
saw this version (not and amg but i think an amg pack) and the older model side by side and you never realize how outdated the 6.3L version looks. when i saw the new design i did not like it, but seeing it person it is a beautiful car
I like this car. The styling is not quite as agressive exterior wise as the M3 and the W204 C63 AMG, but i'm okay with that, because it matches the sporty yet classy interior look, and if i'd consider buying a mercedes i'd prefer it to look like that. It's more like a wolf in sheep's clothing. Pretty great car that AMG got us here, and it sounds pretty good too. That C63S is pretty fast also ! But the M3 is more on the sport side: it's lighter, more agressive, the engine revs more, it's sharper, and it feels more like a sporty sedan . The C63S is like the old one the brutal thing, the typical AMG. If i'd have to get a car of the segment, i'd take the M3 for those reasons, but that's my choice. I'm waiting forward to see a great head to head review of the M3 vs C63S.
Steven Ferguson The F8x look dated and cheap ? Your civic looks dated and cheap ! What is wrong with you, dude, there is no doubt the F8x's look is one of their most solid pros ! The heavier C63 is more precise and sharper ? It ain't no sharper, the F8x are more of track/sport cars than the C63 ! Yes the C63 is great, but it's not a masterpiece, and actually a lot of Mercedes fans prefer the older version. It's not a masterpiece. C63 BS is, but this one is not. It's a really great car, but not a masterpiece. What the hell is wrong with you ?
Steven Ferguson Chris Harris has never said that the C63 is better, Top Gear hasn't reviewed the C63 yet as far as i know, neither has motor trend. The C63 is heavier than the BS, and has less Hp even in it's S version. Actually the M3 sent the benchmark, then the C63 came and they say "Mmmh the M3 is good but this is also pretty damn good when did they get to this level ?" They don't say "Damn M3 is a shit" like you say. The M3 is more agressive by it's look, and it also looks more exotic than the C63. Just compare C63 vs a normal C with this AMG Pack look and they are almost the same. Then do M Sport vs M3 and NOPE. Btw they don't compare the C to the M4, and the GTS will be there with it's water injection and special lights too. Oh and actually the M2 is coming but no one has something against that yet, it's out of it's league.
Steven Ferguson "The master top gear said it's better so it's better". No what they said is that they prefer the Mercedes, because it's for them an overall better car for the road, being more balanced than the M3 and more of a sheep in wolf's closing, playing two roles. You're obviously too much of a fanboy. I don't say that the C63 is shit i actually like it, i just say that the M3 is for me a better car, trying to focus more on pleasure than power being lighter. Your arguments are just plain stupid. The M3 is a looker, with a great interior (you can't say the C63's interior is wow because it's not neither). No Air Matic ? BMW Active Suspensions idiot, obviously it's not a Mercedes it doesn't have Mercedes things. I can say your Merc doesn't have an Quattro on it that's stupid. No driver assistance ? Were you talking about the E30 or something ? The M2 is one of the most anticipated cars out there. The 1M was so great that it was one of the only cars of it's era and category to be an instant classic, and the M2 is said to be even better. This thing will sell pretty well. The C63 BS was faster than the GTS on the Nürb, because it was well helped than it's 70hp more, and we know that weight is not that important on the nurb (look at the GTR), being more of a fast track. Also don't forget that the BS is Mercedes' BS came after the GTS, it's Mercedes' answer to the GTS, so "Hey let's make a car after them, so we'll try to beat them !" It would've been different if the GTS came after the BS, it plays a role. We'll see what happens then, but the F8x clearly sent an high benchmark to the segment and on paper the C63 and the M3 are pretty different. They are not for the same types of persons.
Steven Ferguson So basically Top Gear is the god of cars and they decide what is good and what it's not. Mmmh interesting, because they actually said the M3 was one of the very best cars they reviewed when they did, besides the discussed sound. The interior of the C feels more premium, but it's not "miles away", it's just a feeling it has into it. The ///M cars are more on the sport side. Air suspension on a track car ? The M3 is not a Bentley. Driving assistance and shit when will you understand that we're talking about the M3 not the 7er. This car is about performance, people who buy these know how to control them, that's it. When you buy an M3, the only things you need might be the Carbon Brakes; the 19's wheels, and the DCT, nothing else. The BMW M1 when it came out in 1978 was one of the very best car of the moment, being the first one of the M Division and setting an incredible benchmark in racing, like the 3.0 CSL did earlier in the 70's. It might be the most collectible car ever produced by the bavarian firm, and you likely will never see one in the streets. The 1M was BMW's modern reference to the M3 E30, and for that it's one of the very most loved BMW. It gave some incredible sensations on track, and most reviewers agreed to say that this might be one of the very best cars in the world. It was at it's lunch an instant classic. And i'm not the only one to wait for the M2. The M235i did pretty well against the S3/A45 AMG and they said it's almost as good as the 1M. When it came out, the M2 wasn't sure at all, and reviewers said they're waiting for this to happen, because it'll be an absolute beast. I'm far for being the only one waiting from the mighty M2, said to be the "real M3". This car will have no competition in it's segment besides maybe the Cayman (but not really, because the Cayman is much more of a sport car).
Great video! although I do not believe the M178 and M177 is the exactly same (AMG GT s and C63S engines) as one is dry sump lubricated one is not. Then again given that they are so similar I do not understand why anyone will go for the GTS if the C63S offers 90% of the car and half the price...
Desmond Cheung the AMG GT also has the dual clutch transmission, while the C63 has the regular automatic. People who like 2 doors usually hate 4 doors, and people who need 4 doors arent looking at a coupe in the first place. They are almost the same machine, youre right, but with different missions.
Stuck on the dashboard like an afterthought, that is what evert reviewer says, I strongly disagree, I got to touch one of these displays and they feel well made and of high quality,
It's a shame that the Mercedes F1 Turbo cars don't sound as nice as their production cars because that's part of the purpose of going to turbocharging isn't it - to maintain that naturally aspirated sound without losing power?
Forgot to mention in your short history of turbocharging...Saab. Turbos for the masses to increase power of a small engine, started on the 99. Otherwise, love the C63. BMW is slowly dying...digging their own grave too, selling out chasing sales volume. The Metallica of the automotive world.
You confuse lag with boost threshold. Lag is the delay between change in throttle and change in engine power output - boost threshold is what you describe here. I don't know why so many motoring journalists get this wrong, it's really surprising.
Two things: Design convergence - all cars are generally starting to look similar. Secondly, I think the Japanese/Koreans have started copying them aggressively. Look at the new Kias and Hondas. It's tough to change your design language and maintain brand identity. It'll be a challenge for Mercedes. I guess a third thing would be Mercedes' attempt at capturing younger buyers. They're going for aggressive styling because they are associated with being an old man's car.
Just a tiny bit of constructive criticism (hopefully). The audience watching these videos are fairly clued up on cars, some of the recent stuff from you guys is getting a bit patronising, or regurgitating information we all know already as it was said by another program already. Keep up the vids, no more heavy breathing ;-)
It looks to me like Mercedes are taking the AMG away from the slightly more track monster looking car and into the executive sleeper side of things. Ok it was never a oh look at me kind of style car (in terms of appearance, obviously the noise always told you what a monster it was). Whereas BMW seem to be sticking with the muscular sport look in the M4. Maybe the two door AMG will change the over all vibe from this car but I certainly think (external looks wise) it's lost something. Maybe it's just that colour blue and the chrome bits haha. The interior looks great other than the Ipad stuck to the dash.
The old c 63 amg looks and sounds more aggressive. It has more curves and sharp edges than this one. They should of made it look more aggressive instead of making it a luxury look although it still looks good. Because this one is larger it weighs heavier and plus the old c 63 amg is more streamlined wich could gain more speed. For instance if you are going fast the car needs to be streamlined so it cuts through air particles.
Sorry but it doesn't sound as good as the old one,New BMW M3 sounds better to my ear,not as loud as the new C63 but it has some original sound and I'm not talking about the speaker BS,Look at it this way,BMW M3 feels proud of the turbos this doesn't,its like a kid forced to play football but he is more interested in basketball.What I want to see is the kid playing basketball ie 4.0L Supercharged V8
Loses soul??: YES no Doubt but this is getting common in many iconical car makers modesl, etc. So Sad I think there are other better solutions for lowering fuel comsumption/emissions and still keeping those cars souls just like Porsche did on their 918 or Mercedes on their M152 engined 2012 SLK55 AMG (5.5lts wonderful engine) but it seems to be that reducing and reducing engines represents a better business for them. :-S
Mercedes engine sounds so much better than BMW speakers
I know, but that's not too bad
***** go check Drive's video on the car and chris harris shows a cross section of the new exhasut, it is not fake as you will soon learn.
***** what are you talking about , every exhaust system makes different sounds this uses what every other manufacturers use today . controlled by flaps diverting exhaust to another section within the exhaust to make it quieter sound or moves it to another section for a louder sound. please explain ? sound still comes through the exhaust system whats so fake about this? BMW use speakers for sound ! thats fake!!
where exactly does he say this , its a tuned exhaust system no different to any tuned exhaust system - do you have any idea how an exhaust system works, i cannot believe im having this conversation with you, so what your saying is every car with an exhaust has a fake sound!!! WTF So,,, lets see ,,if i remove the current exhaust system and replace it with an aftermarket, 1, it will not meet current regulation EPA testing and yes the sound will be deeper, louder and more wild - is this fake also ? all exhaust systems are bent and baffled to accommodate a certain sound. i will use the old M3 4litre V8 ,,sound was quiet from factory however an after market exhaust system made the car ,,4 litre V8 sound AWSAME - so the after market exhaust system made the car louder and deeper - i guess this is fake according you.
Tsalis C You are the man! That is what I wanted to tell this guy but I could not find the words since I am unaware of the actual technical knowhow, but all I know is that car makers spend a good amount of time audio engineering the sound of their cars. Toyota enlisted the help of Yamaha to craft the sound of the lexus LFA for instance.
That beginning was a bit... weird?
lol
Old c63 looks and sounds meaner
The fact its a 4.0 kind of takes away the thrill of the name '63' if that makes sense
Faisal Haque My memory says BMW was one of the first to ruin their own well planned naming scheme by calling their 4.4ltr v8 a '45' then following it up with calling their 4.8ltr v8 a '50'.
I'm sure Mercedes would use the same line of reasoning as BMW use to use. They claimed the number does not represent the actual displacement of the engine, but it represents that the engine makes as much power as a ________ displacement engine.
With the C63 they would say, It may only be 4.0ltrs displacement, however it makes equivalent power to a 6.3ltr engine.
Also, all the 80 year olds in my area driving around in amg's at 15mph below the speed limit who walked into the dealer and just went for the most expensive version they could get would be upset if this years badge number was lower than last years badge number, they'd feel like they bought the inferior car with a lower badge number.
I do however agree and miss the days when the badge on the rear told you what the engine actually was.
sais the guy with the fully hektic VL as his display picture ahhahahah
thesulo12 The translate feature doesn't seem to be able to translate your comment.
Could you please re-post what you said in a way that english readers might understand?
Thank you.
Bob Hope you wouldn't understand us aussies speak a lot of slang.. well most of us
Great video, I like the quick background on turbo-charging history and operation. Xcar always gives more than just a car review in its films. Even the autoshow videos delve in to the background of where the cars come from and why the new model is important. And as always the presentation and camera work is excellent!
One of the best car reviews I have ever seen. Thank you so much for the attention to detail and for knowing your audience.
Thy intro is fantastic! I can feel the hard work and attention to detail. Well done my sons.
Mr Xcar unlike quite a few folks expressed their dislike for you guys not following the "guide lines of youtube car review (drive in the road, go to track, do side ways slow motion, do lap time,end)", i am extremely pleased with this video and i absolute encourage and praise Xcarfilms UNIQUE and outside the box content, it is absolutely refreshing to see the same car being reviewed yet on a completely different platform of display, and that perhaps the biggest brilliance of your film crew and efforts, as for the car, i think ive found my new dream car (dream car as of the list i could afford it) for the longest ive been a BMW fan but that for quite some time is no more (the BMW's i fell love with been off the production line for decades now), so with the new GT and this new C63S to me are simply stunning piece of machines, can't help to to think Mercedes are on a row,pushing beautiful cars off their factory and completely dominating F1. Anyway yeah thanks for reading my comment and i look forward to see Xcarfilms personal, unique and outside the "standards" reviews to come, cheers!
This is all great news for those of us who can't wait to get their hands on last generation's 6.2 C63 AMG :D
I liked the old one more
Good for you.
Me too. First and foremost it looked so, so much better!
absolutely! it sounds million times better too.
bram smits Ok. You do get that your opinion is only interesting to other people the moment you state WHY you liked the old one more, right?
I don't.
Still wish it had that N/A sound. But there Is no denying it still sounds incredible. Great video, great job on the filming and editing as usual!
Fucking beautiful car! Gives M a real kick in the bollocks!
***** Except the M4 is a coupe and this is a saloon...and the M4 has 424 BHP where as this has 503 BHP..as well as a much more advanced rear differential, it also makes more torque and sounds better, without the need for lame virtual sound. I love BMW, but they can't compete here. The C63 is another level above it. Not sure therefore how the M4 could be 'way' better. Sure its an awesome car..but way better?
The comp pack car will be great no doubt about it, but it won't be able to compete in terms of power. Im not sure how this sounds like a diesel lol, man that must be an intense diesel. The M3/4 are great cars, but the one area they did fail was the noise. Truly lacking. No where near the awesomeness of something like a CSL E46. AMG have BMW well and truly beat when it comes to noise.
Dude its not exactly fake, it just uses valves within the exhaust system. Lots of vehicles do. It still makes a better noise than the M3/4 which every single reviewer has noted is extremely muted and characterless.
Josh Charlie I agree this sounds better but I wouldn't say the M4 is muted haha not in sport mode and at full chat. I think externally the M3/M4 looks like it's been built for the purpose it was made for. This car looks like the power side of it was an after thought and the main concern was the diesel line up for fleet cars etc. Maybe the coupe will look better. The interior however looks like a more interesting place to be than the M3/M4's although I wouldn't say it wasn't a pleasant place to be. The power side of things... it wouldn't suprise me in the slightest if the M4 could have this off round the track. The HP figure being pretty much just a bragging tool. I don't know if that's the case, I could be totally wrong. Either way at the moment I'm really not a fan of this cars external styling it just looks boring man, especially in comparison to the last one (which was understated in it's own right)
Why discussing that much...? both cars are good, but none actually Sound at all.. just synthetic scam sound for "driver"/onwner lmao
Lovely car. Seriously nice. Looks great and sounds pretty nice. One thing though, surely the engine won't last as long as the 6.2 did because it's under much more pressure. Going to smaller engines is not always good.
Really good video! I like the history behind the turbo. Thanks!
man.. this is by far the most beautiful c-class yet.
***** yep, all the way actually :)
......"they are going to make your balls tingle." Absolutely PROFOUND! *Standing ovation*
R.I.P M3
Wait until you see the m3/m4 in person it's stunning
meow larry it looks great but we ain't talking about looks
Haha there are some funny guys on the internet. I like this car quite a bit, but there is no reason this could completely kill an M3 ;)
Tbh no car from either of the German three could completely kill one another
Kaisuke971 Agreed, this must be a great car to drive, but it's a very different car from the M3. Attracts different people, different driving styles.
After watching this video, i started to be conscious on my breathing. Well, thanks for that XCAR. And, thanks for making such a good video.
AMG "We make your balls tingle."
I love the older version of this car
Somebody watched 50 shades before putting together that intro. yikes.
lmao
No one watches this video without thinking M3 in the back of their mind. ///M Power.
I feel like the current F-series M3 has lost itself, whereas the C63 AMG seems to stay truer to it's Merc roots.
I say this as the owner of an E46.
i think its perfect that this videos talks about what turbos are about, because the last 6.2l engine was so good and people must know why turbos found their way into the new 63 without making the car less exciting
MB had my balls tingled back in 2005 with their S65 AMG
+1 @“they’re gonna make your balls tingle” *insert shit eating grin*
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
that growl is so amazing
Nice review. But glad I got a 2015 C63 coupe with the non-turbo 6.2L V8 while I still was able to.
There is no match for a normally aspirated engine when it comes to throttle response and sound.
The reviews of the new 4L are positive, but note that no one is saying it sounds better than the 6.2L, or has better throttle response, because it simply doesn't.
Because this are 500 hundred well behaved horses! You are a good motor journalist.. I salute you! Wow!
It doesn't matter how much engineering has gone into the engine and exhaust note, the naturally aspirated engine was is and will FOREVER BE THE BEST SOUNDING ENGINE EVER. Heck if your really keen on buying something with this new car looks get rid of the engine (sell it on ebay or make a living room show piece) although I doubt the wife will let you do that and then throw in a 6.3 litre into the car. New looks good ol sound and engine.
Oh how funny it is to be back here and seeing the discontent with a turbo V8, after watching a review of the 4cyl hybrid C63...
Looks like a true Q car. Well done boys and good work amg. Amg is all about the sound and they have done what they set out to do.
the sound is VERY weak
like the new front, shoudlve kept the old rear lights, exhaust pipes, and sound and that would be the perfect c63 amg.
Great video! Bravo! Thumbs up!
great review, but i dont think fuel economy regulations is a problem for performance cars, autonomous cars are the real threat to fun fast cars and auto enthusiast.
"threat"? LOL, plz.
Honestly, autonomous cars are what we desperately need, at least in the US. So many drivers are horrible, and taking the ones that don't care out of the equation would benefit everyone.
Howard B What makes you think you will be allowed to use manual cars when automated cars are the norm?
Gavin756 unless you live in a communist dictatorship or something, you'll be able to drive what you want/can pay for. Autonomous cars will keep the stupid people from ruining it for us.
Gavin756 if they ever tell us that we can only drive autonomous cars, there would literally be a revolution.
Does it have an intercooler or is it manifold->turbo->manifold in the shortest piping possible?
You filmed that in the Algarve didn't you? I recognise the Conrad Hotel in QDL that you filmed at. I have been before and have a villa in QDL.
That spec makes this car one of the best looking cars on the road.
I'm glad to see Wil Wheaton working again.
I disliked this video and I want to give my reason for it:
This video spends half of it's time explaining the general history of the turbo and the need for it due to new emission and fuel economy regulations issued by the EU. It was very interesting to listen to, however, the title of the video was the Mercedes-AMG C 63 S and I expected to see a caar review. Please don't mix up some generic "turbo documentary" into your car review videos. Thanks.
Well to be fair the title didn't have review or test written anywhere. Wrong expectations.
perhaps a chance to educate the public with why and what is a turbo and why is in the new engine and what to expect for is completely relevant to the content of what is a car review, perhaps what you should translate your thought could be: didn't met YOUR personal expectation there for it dont meant what you perhaps like, will suit the rest of us, which already we have a premium example that some prefer images, and others prefer images with information, now dont go all butthurt you had your chance to voice your thoughts i just had mine.
Elbowz But what about the wheel?
***** that's the beauty of it tho, there is so many reviews already for this car, you have Autocar, Chirs Harris, Motortrend, few youtubers already, so if you think, if they all follow the same exact concept how boring would that be?, i think here Xcar showed you a little more, instead of a slow motion drift scene they educated where turbo's came from, perhaps instead of showing how much options cost, they educated the public rather the turbo interact with the experience of driving this car or not and so on, they realized that the obvious stuff have already been done, so they went outside the box to give you, and me and everyone else some fresh to look at, and that my friend is brilliance, cheers!
Elbowz Yeah, I know. I've heard it before on every other car review on the planet where they had to go smaller displacement or fewer cylinders, but still wanted to maintain their previous model's total power output. Truely innovative, highly educating. Now I know exactly why I should buy a Mercedes-AMG C 63 S. Because turbos', you know... (-_ - ')
Seriously tho: I appreciate your effort, but I'm not entirely convinced by your arguments. I do not see myself as an Xcar fanboy, nor hater, and I have also subscribed to all other car-mags you have mentioned above (and more). Sure, it's not a given that my expectations are always met, but A) that's also true for any other car-mag and B) my expectations are hardly ever matched. I just wanted to get off my chest what I found, IMHO, as an unnecessary, too unspecific, but foremost overly long excourse. If it wasn't about the overall length and the fact that it took roughly 50% it the whole video... I probably wouldn't even have bothered to write a comment at all. And if they actually bring a turbo take that's more generic and covers all the new cars I would find that a great addition. Finding good & speaking titles for videos is not completely irrelevant and to the very least it's not entirely the viewer's fault, if any expectations are not met. Don't you agree?
Never liked the C-Class' shape, but in blue? Wow! Just wow!
4.0tfsi in RS models sounds better than this.
gay tho
0richeym sorry I'm hetero.
said no one ever
Agreed
Fantastic video, loved it!
***** Awesome. I'll check it out indeed! And thanks for taking the time to answer! :)
I just want to see the coupe version of this awesome car!
Will probably look like the s class coupé
Awesome review... all hail c63 amg...
What is this "boost"? How does it work?
I like bad Boostards :D
It looks less aggressive but it looks more refined, its a perfect car.
I was hoping for a bit mote visual aggression. I don't think it looks special enough. Like with the previous C-Class, once the more inferior models have donned their option AMG sports kit then this new C63 will be virtually indistinguishable from your local mini cab. Love the interior though and 500+ bhp that is truly crazy!
Yes , its nice , but I'm gonna miss the old friend C63 AMG W204 .
It was nicer on look , has a great performance too , I liked it natural aspirated engine , had a really monster 6208 cc V8 with no Turbo or Supercharger , as I know engines that doesn't have boost can live longer , as I know large pistons live longer , as I know the 6208cc V8 has 776 cc per cylinder and this sounds nice to me .
I haven't seen a w205 model in a 2 door coupe yet .
I haven't seen a Black Series version yet .
That's why I gonna miss W204 .
the last gen c63 is one of my all time favorite mercedes in almost all versions (especially the estate!) next to the 190E 2.5
i reserve judgement on this after i see a black series version but this doesnt do much for me.
the amg gt however might sway me from porsche
Not liking this new roundish end on MB's. Preferred the older sharper, boxier ones. Eh.
This was a great video; I don't know the presenter's name but he is superbly interesting to listen to.
5:41 shots fired lmao, bmw fanboys in 1,2,3 .. :3
The issue isn't actually fuel consumption, but emissions. The EU has set emissions targets - something like 95g/km in 2020 for each carmakers' range, with huge penalties if they don't comply.
Beautiful car; but did anyone else happen to notice at 10:06 it looks like the air intake is separated from the clamp holding it to the manifold?
saw this version (not and amg but i think an amg pack) and the older model side by side and you never realize how outdated the 6.3L version looks. when i saw the new design i did not like it, but seeing it person it is a beautiful car
stock wheels are on point!
6:42
can someone plz explain to me how can a V8 with 2 turbos, that each feeds only one side of the V, have "sequential turbos"???
Great review!! My balls DID tingle!! LoL
I like this car. The styling is not quite as agressive exterior wise as the M3 and the W204 C63 AMG, but i'm okay with that, because it matches the sporty yet classy interior look, and if i'd consider buying a mercedes i'd prefer it to look like that. It's more like a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Pretty great car that AMG got us here, and it sounds pretty good too. That C63S is pretty fast also !
But the M3 is more on the sport side: it's lighter, more agressive, the engine revs more, it's sharper, and it feels more like a sporty sedan . The C63S is like the old one the brutal thing, the typical AMG.
If i'd have to get a car of the segment, i'd take the M3 for those reasons, but that's my choice.
I'm waiting forward to see a great head to head review of the M3 vs C63S.
I guess...Something makes me like the c63 a tiny bit more though...
Steven Ferguson The F8x look dated and cheap ? Your civic looks dated and cheap !
What is wrong with you, dude, there is no doubt the F8x's look is one of their most solid pros !
The heavier C63 is more precise and sharper ? It ain't no sharper, the F8x are more of track/sport cars than the C63 !
Yes the C63 is great, but it's not a masterpiece, and actually a lot of Mercedes fans prefer the older version. It's not a masterpiece. C63 BS is, but this one is not. It's a really great car, but not a masterpiece.
What the hell is wrong with you ?
Steven Ferguson Chris Harris has never said that the C63 is better, Top Gear hasn't reviewed the C63 yet as far as i know, neither has motor trend.
The C63 is heavier than the BS, and has less Hp even in it's S version.
Actually the M3 sent the benchmark, then the C63 came and they say "Mmmh the M3 is good but this is also pretty damn good when did they get to this level ?" They don't say "Damn M3 is a shit" like you say.
The M3 is more agressive by it's look, and it also looks more exotic than the C63. Just compare C63 vs a normal C with this AMG Pack look and they are almost the same.
Then do M Sport vs M3 and NOPE.
Btw they don't compare the C to the M4, and the GTS will be there with it's water injection and special lights too.
Oh and actually the M2 is coming but no one has something against that yet, it's out of it's league.
Steven Ferguson "The master top gear said it's better so it's better".
No what they said is that they prefer the Mercedes, because it's for them an overall better car for the road, being more balanced than the M3 and more of a sheep in wolf's closing, playing two roles.
You're obviously too much of a fanboy. I don't say that the C63 is shit i actually like it, i just say that the M3 is for me a better car, trying to focus more on pleasure than power being lighter.
Your arguments are just plain stupid. The M3 is a looker, with a great interior (you can't say the C63's interior is wow because it's not neither). No Air Matic ? BMW Active Suspensions idiot, obviously it's not a Mercedes it doesn't have Mercedes things. I can say your Merc doesn't have an Quattro on it that's stupid. No driver assistance ? Were you talking about the E30 or something ?
The M2 is one of the most anticipated cars out there. The 1M was so great that it was one of the only cars of it's era and category to be an instant classic, and the M2 is said to be even better.
This thing will sell pretty well.
The C63 BS was faster than the GTS on the Nürb, because it was well helped than it's 70hp more, and we know that weight is not that important on the nurb (look at the GTR), being more of a fast track.
Also don't forget that the BS is Mercedes' BS came after the GTS, it's Mercedes' answer to the GTS, so "Hey let's make a car after them, so we'll try to beat them !"
It would've been different if the GTS came after the BS, it plays a role.
We'll see what happens then, but the F8x clearly sent an high benchmark to the segment and on paper the C63 and the M3 are pretty different. They are not for the same types of persons.
Steven Ferguson So basically Top Gear is the god of cars and they decide what is good and what it's not. Mmmh interesting, because they actually said the M3 was one of the very best cars they reviewed when they did, besides the discussed sound.
The interior of the C feels more premium, but it's not "miles away", it's just a feeling it has into it. The ///M cars are more on the sport side. Air suspension on a track car ? The M3 is not a Bentley.
Driving assistance and shit when will you understand that we're talking about the M3 not the 7er. This car is about performance, people who buy these know how to control them, that's it. When you buy an M3, the only things you need might be the Carbon Brakes; the 19's wheels, and the DCT, nothing else.
The BMW M1 when it came out in 1978 was one of the very best car of the moment, being the first one of the M Division and setting an incredible benchmark in racing, like the 3.0 CSL did earlier in the 70's. It might be the most collectible car ever produced by the bavarian firm, and you likely will never see one in the streets.
The 1M was BMW's modern reference to the M3 E30, and for that it's one of the very most loved BMW. It gave some incredible sensations on track, and most reviewers agreed to say that this might be one of the very best cars in the world. It was at it's lunch an instant classic.
And i'm not the only one to wait for the M2. The M235i did pretty well against the S3/A45 AMG and they said it's almost as good as the 1M. When it came out, the M2 wasn't sure at all, and reviewers said they're waiting for this to happen, because it'll be an absolute beast.
I'm far for being the only one waiting from the mighty M2, said to be the "real M3". This car will have no competition in it's segment besides maybe the Cayman (but not really, because the Cayman is much more of a sport car).
Great video! although I do not believe the M178 and M177 is the exactly same (AMG GT s and C63S engines) as one is dry sump lubricated one is not.
Then again given that they are so similar I do not understand why anyone will go for the GTS if the C63S offers 90% of the car and half the price...
Desmond Cheung the AMG GT also has the dual clutch transmission, while the C63 has the regular automatic. People who like 2 doors usually hate 4 doors, and people who need 4 doors arent looking at a coupe in the first place. They are almost the same machine, youre right, but with different missions.
very well done!
Stuck on the dashboard like an afterthought, that is what evert reviewer says, I strongly disagree, I got to touch one of these displays and they feel well made and of high quality,
I though this was gonna be a car review not a turbo lesson? cmon XCAR
These internal turbo engines sound very impressive.
At 10:46 it almost sounds like a quite V8 Pagani Huayra (yes im aware that mercedes provide the engines the pagani use)
Well just from this video it definitely sounded softer than the previous NA model.
Looks like the s series. Loving the design of the new c 63s
ok, the beginning of this video is just creepy and weird.
Alex AJ hahaha
This looks beautiful. And fast. Ok!
6:00 For the car. First 6 minutes on the history of the turbo.
Great review, can you please review 2015 audi r8 v8?? .this is the last original design and last of v8. thank you
"They are going to make your balls tingle", I wish I could drive this car to see if that is true.
'not fake sound like other manufacturers do' said it all...
It's a shame that the Mercedes F1 Turbo cars don't sound as nice as their production cars because that's part of the purpose of going to turbocharging isn't it - to maintain that naturally aspirated sound without losing power?
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Forgot to mention in your short history of turbocharging...Saab. Turbos for the masses to increase power of a small engine, started on the 99. Otherwise, love the C63. BMW is slowly dying...digging their own grave too, selling out chasing sales volume. The Metallica of the automotive world.
isnt the old c63, 6.3 litres?? like the badge on the side? like name c sixty three!?
First things first, breathing is NOT the only thing that we cannot stop doing to sustain our own lives.
You confuse lag with boost threshold. Lag is the delay between change in throttle and change in engine power output - boost threshold is what you describe here. I don't know why so many motoring journalists get this wrong, it's really surprising.
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The new mercs look like they've come from Japan or Korea. What were the designers thinking?
Two things: Design convergence - all cars are generally starting to look similar. Secondly, I think the Japanese/Koreans have started copying them aggressively. Look at the new Kias and Hondas. It's tough to change your design language and maintain brand identity. It'll be a challenge for Mercedes. I guess a third thing would be Mercedes' attempt at capturing younger buyers. They're going for aggressive styling because they are associated with being an old man's car.
Cheesy and corny intro in my opinion
What a great car. I hope I get to drive one some day.
Just a tiny bit of constructive criticism (hopefully).
The audience watching these videos are fairly clued up on cars, some of the recent stuff from you guys is getting a bit patronising, or regurgitating information we all know already as it was said by another program already.
Keep up the vids, no more heavy breathing ;-)
The new C63 is great, now all Mercedes needs to do is make a C63 Wagon and bring it to North America
Plus i like the british host with the glasses hes good.
The turbo between the V = copy-paste ?
His American humour doesn't match the finesse of English/Australian humour which this video should have let alone this channel.
There is still lag compared to the 6.2L, make no mistake. Nor does it sound as good.
It looks to me like Mercedes are taking the AMG away from the slightly more track monster looking car and into the executive sleeper side of things. Ok it was never a oh look at me kind of style car (in terms of appearance, obviously the noise always told you what a monster it was). Whereas BMW seem to be sticking with the muscular sport look in the M4. Maybe the two door AMG will change the over all vibe from this car but I certainly think (external looks wise) it's lost something. Maybe it's just that colour blue and the chrome bits haha. The interior looks great other than the Ipad stuck to the dash.
The old c 63 amg looks and sounds more aggressive. It has more curves and sharp edges than this one. They should of made it look more aggressive instead of making it a luxury look although it still looks good. Because this one is larger it weighs heavier and plus the old c 63 amg is more streamlined wich could gain more speed. For instance if you are going fast the car needs to be streamlined so it cuts through air particles.
Sorry but it doesn't sound as good as the old one,New BMW M3 sounds better to my ear,not as loud as the new C63 but it has some original sound and I'm not talking about the speaker BS,Look at it this way,BMW M3 feels proud of the turbos this doesn't,its like a kid forced to play football but he is more interested in basketball.What I want to see is the kid playing basketball ie 4.0L Supercharged V8
I've watched the beginning of the video, and now I like men.
Loses soul??: YES no Doubt but this is getting common in many iconical car makers modesl, etc. So Sad I think there are other better solutions for lowering fuel comsumption/emissions and still keeping those cars souls just like Porsche did on their 918 or Mercedes on their M152 engined 2012 SLK55 AMG (5.5lts wonderful engine) but it seems to be that reducing and reducing engines represents a better business for them. :-S
turbos are the wave of the future
great review! but car reviewers need to stop sounding so much like top gear's hosts
I think you're wrong about it being a sequential turbo system.
Turbo today,n/a tomorrow again,it's all a sales cycle
"What? the M3/M4 doesn't have a V8 anymore? NO way./// I had no idea".. said nobody
The interior is amazing, but please change the name this is C40 AMG