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  • @airjaff
    @airjaff 2 роки тому +41

    Angry photographer is a terrible photograper. Thoes photos are just awful. I feel embarrassed for him!

    • @MichaelRelevant
      @MichaelRelevant 2 роки тому +3

      He’s definitely on the technical side of things. He repairs lenses more than actually going out shooting. He’s more into technical specs and gear.

    • @frankwoodbery2473
      @frankwoodbery2473 2 роки тому +11

      Ken is not a photographer for sure, his images are pure amateur. He is mostly just a collector of gear, mostly old Nikon f mount lenses.

    • @oliverlison
      @oliverlison 2 роки тому +2

      He is not a photographer. He has a lot of technical inside. though. I remember him when he stole images from other photographers and claiming that ithey would be his,

    • @Bredddi
      @Bredddi Рік тому +1

      Who edited them? That is the question.

  • @in2food
    @in2food 2 роки тому +31

    Ken should be called the angry technician. But as a photographer, he is an embarrassment.

    • @BAstudios5
      @BAstudios5 Рік тому +2

      I like his videos but he isn't that skilled of a photographer. Great guy, some of his videos are more informative than any other video you can find on the internet regarding technical abilities of digital imaging. He used to praise nikon and now doesn't even talk about them, Fuji and Nikon are great cameras, I've had both for years. Some videos, you just have to take with a grain of salt.

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +10

    I wish Ken would admit his photos are 100% junk.

  • @cabcabs3278
    @cabcabs3278 Рік тому +6

    When I started shooting I watched all of Jason's videos and modeled my style after his. I even did his advanced lighting workshop. I paid a lot of money to learn that I already had everything I needed to succeed except confidence. So I guess I learned something. I've since outgrown Jason's style but kept to heart something he said. You have to strive to be an "All Light Photographer." Which means knowing how to get the best possible shot in any situation with what you have available. Ken has no idea how to use any form of lighting. He might have gotten lucky with some "okay" shots, but nothing that could be considered good. I guess that's why he steals other photographers work.

  • @rgreeneish
    @rgreeneish 2 роки тому +8

    "Jason is known for high speed sync" Then shoots the whole thing in natural light.

  • @dude157
    @dude157 Рік тому +4

    It's not that he's a bad photographer, it's that he lied about ever being a photographer. He's a self declared world leading expert in lenses but doesn't know how to use them. He's a gear collector that fantasises about being a photographer. I was too manipulated into thinking he had credibility, just because he had a large number of lenses. For all I know he can just be running a used camera store. I bought lenses having being convinced I needed it, only be told the next day that another lens that serves the exact same purpose is also a "must" own lens. While none of the lenses I purchased based on his recommendations are bad, I have ended spending thousands of dollars on equipment that's really for professionals that make an income from photography, not an amateur that does photography for enjoyment and makes no money from it. But that's on me for being so easily manipulated.
    However, him plagiarising the work of others is evidence that for the 10s of thousands of dollars he's spent on photography equipment he doesn't have a single photograph of his own worthy of printing off. That's a bigger embarrassment than me being fooled by this guy.

  • @Bredddi
    @Bredddi Рік тому +5

    If someone I don’t know calls me brother 54 times in an hour I am going to head out.

  • @jaegerschtulmann
    @jaegerschtulmann 2 роки тому +10

    Obviously Ken is not a good photographer but he knows the technical aspects of gear. I personally dislike Lanier's persona and his heavy handed editing style in post, but he obviously knows how to produce great compositions lit well. Ultimately, where there is smoke, there's fire and Lanier has way too many accusers for a reason.

  • @WOLFTICKVIDEOS
    @WOLFTICKVIDEOS 2 роки тому +4

    I remember this. If I remember correctly Ken said in a video he posted after this that he was purposely over exposing his shots to see if he could recover the highlights. You mentioned that you watch all of his videos, so do you know which video I'm talking about?
    I used to watch most of his videos, but had to stop when he started ranting about 5g and other non photography related stuff. I still tune in occasionally and his old videos were pure gold. I'm glad you didn't make a negative video about him.
    Jason on the other hand always makes me feel uncomfortable.

    • @cooloox
      @cooloox 2 роки тому

      I have to laugh at anyone sticking up for a moron who is totally clueless about capturing images and buying his BS about deliberately blowing out almost every shot to see if he could recover the highlights in post. He simply had no idea what he was doing. He's a gear collector with too much money, but constantly cries poor and asks for donations, to then boast about his next $10,000 camera in the next video!
      He lost big time in this challenge and confirmed what most of us already knew... that he's not a photographer and never has been.

  • @Itaketoomanypics
    @Itaketoomanypics 11 місяців тому +3

    Jason has always been cringe , years back there was so much drama and accusations from models it was insane , never forget

  • @saliwanpl1832
    @saliwanpl1832 7 місяців тому +1

    The Angry Photographer can buy a phone and will definitely use even a few percent of its power xd

  • @Vahagraphy
    @Vahagraphy Рік тому +3

    wow you actually made a reaction video on this, BTW this is youtube gold. one of the most famous videos on yotube. Avtually thinking of making reaction videos.

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +6

    Ken is just taking snap shots!

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +3

    Ken is 100% totally uncreative and DOES NOT UNDERSTAND LIGHT!

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +6

    Ken is not a bad person...just a bad photographer

  • @YC305
    @YC305 2 роки тому +6

    I’m not a fan of any of their photography but I sometimes watch Ken’s videos because he’s entertaining 😄

  • @NJ_Galactic
    @NJ_Galactic Рік тому +5

    Poor Ken, he's very good with gear reviews and talking about gear in general. He's also entertaining but ouch. My guy needs to go out more and shoot.

  • @Michael_Relevant
    @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +7

    After making this video I learned this goes deeper than I thought. there's more to the story.

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +3

      @@playthink1 True but I think everyone on here is aware that we aren't dealing with Jimmy Nelson, Annie Leibovitz or Stephen Hawking over here.

    • @Imhotep397
      @Imhotep397 2 роки тому +5

      Yeah, it was pretty wild. There’s way more to the story. Like a year after that shoot I think like 4 or 5 or more of the models including the one in this shoot made videos about Jason sexually harassing them.
      The fact that Ken called him out on his behavior and exposed him months if not years before all the girls made
      Their video confessions incensed Jason and that was the entire reason he set that “shootout” up.
      Ken’s product shots are Ace, it would be great if would teach classes on that. I definitely think his product
      Shooting people under like high noon bright sun with virtually no clouds can really be the pitts.
      It’s wild this came back up now even like 4 months ago.

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +1

      @@Imhotep397 true

    • @cooloox
      @cooloox 2 роки тому

      @@Imhotep397 There's a video out, I'm about to watch it, saying Jason was pretty much exonerated of all charges. I have no idea if the title is accurate or not.
      Regardless of Jason's innocence or guilt, Ken is a phony and a fraud, constantly crying poor and begging for donations, to then boast about his new $5000 camera, $10,000 camera, $3000 lens, blah blah blah in his next video. Using another photographer's images, cutting off the name and logo and claiming they're his. Pretending he was a photographer for years when he clearly never has been. He's a bitter failure, jealous of real photographers and this challenge came about due to Ken constantly claiming Sony cameras are garbage. Jason called him out and said, OK, I challenge you to a shoot-out. I bet I can capture better images on my Sony gear than you can on any gear you like. He won the challenge hands-down, as Ken hasn't got a clue about photography.

    • @longrider9551
      @longrider9551 Рік тому

      @@Imhotep397 NONE of you have the slightest clue what you are talking about, i was a sub and spoke to Ken almost weekly for several years. When he did what he did to Lanier I cut all ties, he is a liar and a conman who's sole purpose is to fleece folks for money. Ken was also very jealous of Lanier and several other prominent youtubers. I have emails from Ken labeling Matt Granger as a sex offender, I looked into this claim and told Ken it is not true but he continued to make innuendos on livestream's against Granger. I was a criminal investigator for 30 years in the NYPD, I found Ken amusing but he is full of BS on all of his pseudo science assertions. I showed his books to 2 prominent PHD's and they just laughed. Ken has a very dark side and the persona on tube you is an act.

  • @matthewdouglas2373
    @matthewdouglas2373 Рік тому +2

    Imagine admitting that you like Ken's physics videos 😅

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  Рік тому +1

      He’s not right about Everything but it’s alright to admit you can’t keep up. Quantum entanglement can be difficult. How far did you get in your physics journey in college?

  • @utube321piotr
    @utube321piotr 4 місяці тому +2

    Ken was/is a Sony hater. Seems to be that Jason was sent out to "assasinate" Ken's credibility by creating a situation that isn't something Ken normally does. Jason tried to pretend he is a Chad contrasting that with an awkward Ken. I'll bet if Ken had an afternoon all alone with that model and was allowed to plan out the venue and conditions, you would see much different results. For me Ken is a genuine and honest bloke, while Jason is a lying/cheating gear peddler. I had seen few videos by Jason and wasn't impressed.

  • @Ni5ei
    @Ni5ei 2 роки тому +11

    This was years ago
    Ken is a con
    People still believe his lies?

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +5

      He has really bad social skills and possibly a disability but he does have a high IQ. Not sure if he’s deceptive or not. I don’t think he does a lot of photography but he does a lot of reading and writing.

    • @elwelkin
      @elwelkin 2 роки тому +5

      @@Michael_Relevant high IQ? I wonder how you get to that conclusion

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +6

      @@elwelkin Have you read any of the books he has written? You must only know him for his Fuji lens reviews. He makes a lot of content about religion, philosophy and Quantum physics. Just listen to his vocabulary and how fast he speaks. It's very hard for a man with a low IQ to have a large vocabulary and use the words in the correct context without slowing down. He defiantly has some social problems but alone he can speak effortlessly. Jason is definitely a way better photography but he's a simple minded man. He focuses on photography and UA-cam.

    • @elwelkin
      @elwelkin 2 роки тому +2

      @@Michael_Relevant people talk a lot, in that case many Christian pastor have high IQ based on talking, some talk non sense that’s not high IQ

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +3

      @@elwelkin It's not the volume of talking its the Context. I'm not a big fan of his but it's obvious he's a deep thinker with his content on metaphysics and Quantum theory. it's not easy to explain string theory. Well a lot of Christian pastors have high IQ's but some have low IQ's. Look at C.S. Lewis. There's very few professors today who could compare to his intellect. Even atheist like Christopher Hitchens will admit to that. Being a Christian doesn't make someone unintelligent. Albert Einstein, Nicola Tesla, Elon Musk and a huge number of scientists in many fields today believe in some kind of God.

  • @Hofsaedter
    @Hofsaedter 2 роки тому +5

    Ken "the angry photographer" is an angry clown and Jason is a pro Photographer.

  • @elwelkin
    @elwelkin 2 роки тому +8

    Ken is only a photographer because he has a camera and take pictures, Jason is a professional photographer that’s the difference

    • @jpgrignon1
      @jpgrignon1 Рік тому +1

      Nope ken is a photographer because he has a camera.. full stop lol

  • @bigotonbrand
    @bigotonbrand 2 роки тому +3

    Sir, Ken is not a good photographer in practice. He might research and try lenses out but he is clueless when it comes to composition

    • @cooloox
      @cooloox 2 роки тому

      Clueless at composition, lens choice, exposure, how to use the right settings with flash etc. His shots looked like point and shoot snapshots.

  • @davemenard5089
    @davemenard5089 Рік тому +2

    Portraits do not define photography. You all know this right?…?

  • @HelloImMaxxHennard
    @HelloImMaxxHennard 2 роки тому +5

    This was weird when I first saw it…but man, the cringe is impacting me way harder than it did before. That damn light Ken 😔

  • @redpillnibbler4423
    @redpillnibbler4423 Рік тому +2

    There’s something off about this whole thing.I don’t understand the point of this video or of the actual photo shoot.
    Ken is an extremely intelligent and insightful person and a good person.I highly recommend people watch Theoria Apophosis youtube channel.
    Why is it fair to expect him to produce professional portrait photographs or behave like a professional portrait photographer when it’s clearly outside his comfort zone?
    I don’t know why he went out and did this,maybe just for fun I guess?
    What exactly is the point of comparing and analysing these people?

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  Рік тому +2

      I don’t know why they made this video. It was cringey and clearly a bad choice.

  • @jpgrignon1
    @jpgrignon1 Рік тому +2

    I mean he definitely could have taken good photos with the wide... It's 25-50 equiv... The problem I saw with his photos was that he was strained to much from holding the GFX with 1 hand that he could not focus on composition or framing.

    • @charminbaer2323
      @charminbaer2323 9 місяців тому

      BS. I've done shots holding my a7iii with the Tamron 35-150mm in one hand or a6000 with Sigma 18-35mm , and holding a flash with the other hand and gotten great shots.

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +3

    Best if ken just sticks to chatting about photography

  • @oo0RECON0oo
    @oo0RECON0oo Рік тому +2

    Angry photographers videos are good if you want to know specs about different product but OMG he can’t take a picture worth sh!t! Why would he agree to go against Jason? Jason will destroy him every time!

  • @Michael_Relevant
    @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +2

    This is so cringy I love it. Haha

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +3

    Ken has never been a good photographer...period

  • @quincylee2276
    @quincylee2276 Рік тому +2

    Ken's shots are terrible, but like you I do enjoy his content quite a bit for both the technical aspects and entertainment. I particularly learned a lot about microcontrast through his videos.

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +3

    Ken should eat less mcdonalds and learn how to become a photographer

  • @EagleEye-MJG
    @EagleEye-MJG 2 роки тому +5

    All the "KNOWLEDGE" and Fujifilm Medium Format Equipment WILL NOT help you create a flattering artistic portrait. There are WAY TOO MANY photographers on UA-cam with "technical knowhow" and absolutely no sense of ACTUALLY capturing anything useful.
    .
    I have listened to Ken for YEARS, babble on about EVERY OTHER photographer and how they suck.....and he got EXACTLY what he deserved in that video of him and his garbage photography.

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +2

      Totally agree

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +2

      Ken is totally uncreative

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +3

      He does not understand photography or light

    • @photo_n_art
      @photo_n_art Рік тому +1

      All his “knowledge” about lenses is shamelessly copied from Ken Rockwell’s website 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Рік тому

      @@d.k.1394 He understands light completely more than any rtarded scientist these days but photography isn't his talent.

  • @EverythingFilmmaking
    @EverythingFilmmaking 2 роки тому +2

    High speed sync is not needed to have a balanced photo with flash

  • @Chris-ey7zy
    @Chris-ey7zy Рік тому +2

    I love Ken but Jason showed that he is a way way way way way better photographer. But I can watch Kens videos more because I think he is more interesting to watch

  • @aliarenas6856
    @aliarenas6856 9 місяців тому +1

    Gotta love Ken👍

  • @johns6290
    @johns6290 2 роки тому +3

    The difference in out put shows Jason to be a photographer. Who goes to a portrait shoot with one lens a wide angle at that. Shows ken has no clue. His photos were horrid too.

    • @ared18t
      @ared18t Рік тому

      I've done it many times and gotten amazing pictures.

  • @black-and-light
    @black-and-light 14 днів тому

    I love Ken Wheeler!!

  • @riceklown
    @riceklown Місяць тому +1

    All of this convinced me that Ken is not a photographer, and sorry bud, but his "physics" is worse than his photography. Absolute nonsense. @FeCoNi_science is an actual scientist who spent a lot of time thoroughly debunking Ken's fake science.

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  Місяць тому +1

      I don’t really have a dog in the fight or really care. Just tell me did you get the vaccine and do you believe climate change is a real issue?

  • @michaels5166
    @michaels5166 2 роки тому +2

    Ken talked shi= about Jason,and then when they met,he was meek..that's called FAKE...Then after the shoot when the scandal started about Jason and the models, Ken was back at it, backstabbing Jason..After that i watched a bit of his stuff but I never had the same respect for Ken..Then again,some of these content creators talk a LOT of shi- if you do not agree with them and even make threats, yet they damn sure do not follow up...

  • @magnificent6668
    @magnificent6668 Рік тому +2

    Who would choose her as a model???

    • @davidellinsworth3299
      @davidellinsworth3299 6 місяців тому

      Who would make a comment like this?.... that's the important question you should be asking yourself

  • @dharvinzphotographyworkshop
    @dharvinzphotographyworkshop 2 роки тому +1

    What's Jason doing with this guy Its an old video I think.

  • @MuahMan
    @MuahMan 2 роки тому +4

    OMG, Lanier's photos are so much better. Embarassing.

  • @MarttiSuomivuori
    @MarttiSuomivuori 8 місяців тому +1

    Just look at the results. That's all.

  • @cloud9photography126
    @cloud9photography126 Рік тому +1

    lol all of ken wheelers shots are blown out and nasty looking

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 2 роки тому +1

    Ken can't take a good photograph to save his life

  • @B18C5
    @B18C5 2 роки тому +1

    When the background doesn’t help you, you get rid of it by blurring it. The 90mm Fuji lense for the x line of cameras would have done a lot better than his overpriced set up

  • @njrivetelite
    @njrivetelite 2 роки тому +3

    Ken is a very intelligent guy and definitely knows gear. I haven't seen much photography from him that really dazzled me. But on the quantum physics end.. I very much enjoy his lecture vids.
    I assume he is incredibly socially awkward especially with women based on any vid I've seen with him. He could change that.
    Jason Lanier definitely has an over the top style charm. I often enjoy his style of images.
    Exposing for the details of the sky while using my light to illuminate the subject.
    I've used ND's to compensate when it was bright and my light didn't have enough power to do what I need in HSS.

  • @Lucy-dk5cz
    @Lucy-dk5cz 2 роки тому +6

    I love ken and while his technical understand is great, he suffers with creative elements and interpersonal skills. Jason’s videos these days are all about shilling out rotolights. I can watch kens videos for what they are, technical. I cannot watch Jason’s because he is cringe. Photos and content is fine but his attitude is cringe

    • @cooloox
      @cooloox 2 роки тому +1

      They're not even technical. He probably just reads something and then makes a video. He doesn't even have the skills to demonstrate anything in the real world.

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Рік тому

      Just so people are aware - many of the comments and replies attacking Ken are bots.

  • @chorton53
    @chorton53 Рік тому +1

    I prefer Jason's photos a lot better. Bokah forever!

  • @Being_Joe
    @Being_Joe 2 роки тому +2

    Neither is good at this

  • @TheOverlordOfProcrastination
    @TheOverlordOfProcrastination Рік тому +1

    Both absolute prats.
    But Ken is absolutely devoid of any discernible talent.

  • @TW-iu9zy
    @TW-iu9zy Рік тому +1

    … jesus, meanwhile Ken is far far away from any kind of real photography and talking about scary things and conspiracy theories. 😂😂😂

    • @davemenard5089
      @davemenard5089 Рік тому +1

      Conspiracy theories? More like spoiler alerts

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Рік тому +1

      Ken is extremely intelligent and on the ball and puts huge thought and depth into his videos and all you can do is point your finger and laugh like Nelson in the Simpsons.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Рік тому +1

      @@redpillnibbler4423 Exactly. Morons think someone being less talented at photography makes them wrong in everything else. Even though Ken talks like a weirdo the other dude is 100% creepomatic

  • @allenpoulson6203
    @allenpoulson6203 2 роки тому +4

    Why are you dredging this old crap up? I’m sure everyone would just like to forget to all😩😩

    • @paulmoss4199
      @paulmoss4199 2 роки тому +1

      it's just unashamed click bait

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +4

      Why would anyone be ashamed of anything? I just saw this and had to share it because it’s hilarious. I would never be ashamed of anything I could ever do good or bad. We have to be ourselves and we must outgrow shame.

    • @Michael_Relevant
      @Michael_Relevant  2 роки тому +1

      @@paulmoss4199 hahaha you clicked on it so I guess you’re kind of slow mentally or maybe you just have a really boarding life.

  • @creamynessification
    @creamynessification 2 роки тому +1

    Cringe. Not you but their interactions.

  • @scotthullinger4684
    @scotthullinger4684 Рік тому +2

    Ken knows absolutely everything about the science of photography, and the best most capable equipment. But he lacks skill as an actual photographer.

  • @ostaseionut2868
    @ostaseionut2868 2 роки тому +1

    Wow

  • @earlfenwick
    @earlfenwick 2 роки тому +1

    The Horror

  • @Badutspringer
    @Badutspringer Рік тому +1

    Wow... This is really terrible. Their shots are terrible

  • @tomwd.2825
    @tomwd.2825 Рік тому +1

    Well, ken could not bring a xt4 because at that time the video was made not even a xt3 was out🤣🤣🤣 it was xt2-times... but he could have brought that but he love to show off with the brand new Medium format that day. He is a bad photographer, but he knows a shitload about lenses and gear... Jason probably dont... next video they should compeed in a theoretical subject like lenses... Jason loose then big time...

    • @charminbaer2323
      @charminbaer2323 9 місяців тому

      Jason is not going around boasting he's an expert in quantum physics or whatever else Ken claims he's an expert at. Why would he want to compete in that??