I suspect they put the USB on the front so it wouldn't lose that function if you place this in a eurorack. I certainly wouldn't have minded that on my Neutron.
But why on earth would you put this in a eurorack? It doesn't have any CV inputs or outputs at all - this is not a Eurorack-compatible synth. I wonder if its main audio out is line level or euro level.
I noticed after I purchased my Neutron that some of the patch points are different from others I saw on UA-cam. I suspect the next gen will have the usb on the front most likely after the Eurorack Go comes out.
However, I think it sounds horrible and would not pay money for it. You can get an MS 10 secondhand for the price, if you are looking for a real 70's tone and feel.
@@caballorojo Think you might have missed the point, Behringer have gone mad with all their synth releases, and have attempted to cover a range of, for want of a better term, Classic Synths. Some, like Pro-Ones, some like Moogs, etc. etc. There are, as I can see in the comments, those who love the idea of a modern recreation of the Wasp. So, look at the others, find something you like or get a a second hand synth. You are welcome to bu my Sequential Pro-1 if you like, But i doubt you would want to pay what i could get for it elsewhere! Basically, as always it's À chaçun son goût!
This is going right back in the day of early “affordable” synths, for back then. I remember, when I was a teenager in the early 70s seeing at the local University a four “box” MOOG that cost as much as a house. The Professor was really interested that it made various noises, white, pink, blue. As a piano student, I couldn’t believe that such a piece of non-musical instrument s**t cost twenty times that of a decent acoustic home piano. So this Wasp clone looks somewhat limited relative to the modern synths of today but it did make some good sounds that were musically usable back in the day and probably didn’t cost as much as the MOOG. Younger people I don’t think realise what a fantastic inexpensive synth world exists today relative to the high expense, highly limited function synth world of forty + years ago.
I think it would cause a lot of younger folks to dismiss the old units though, until they actually got their hands on one. Put the minimoog sound on a real Pratt-Read keybed and it is heaven.
It is therefore more strange that so little interesting electronic music is being produced today , in 70s80s only people that really knew to handle them could afford , and they really put time and their mind to it to make the best they could , now its unlimited tracks into a 50 dollar daw with a 300 dollar synth
@@cnfuzz Little interesting? Sorry, the problem is that there's SO MUCH music produced we can't find interesting pieces easily. with zilions of producers creating music is difficult to filter.
@@cnfuzz it think it just seems that way. There is certainly good music being made, but there is way more crap music because recording and producing has become more accessible.
@@cnfuzz think part of it is there seems to be no reward in deep diving like before. The algorithms rewards short release intervals. On the audience side, they get your music with a tap or click. No need to go to a store and pay cash. It’s very easy to dismiss. Besides, it’s nothing now to skim through a track to see if you like anything. I don’t think anyone was sitting at the cassette player with a new purchase fast forwarding to find parts they liked. You stuck that sumbish in your walkman and listened to all of it. That’s what I did in the early 90’s. Meh, I deep dive with my music but it takes a long time to make being just myself. This track I’m working on now is taking me almost a year!
Coming to the party late, but just picked one of these up for a steal. I'm surprised in your review that you didn't mention the obvious use for the minijack output, which is to feed it back into the external input via the ext. level control. When doing this the filter can easily be cranked into self oscillation, and can result in some interesting mayhem, particularly with the filter in 'notch' mode. Loving this little beast so far... it's like the SH101's ADHD little brother.
@@Synthysynthsynth As someone with ADHD I really couldn't care less. It was hardly even a joke, it's an off-hand comment someone made over a year ago. Get over yourself.
My wasp story.... found an original deluxe ( Proper keyboard version) in a dump and paid £3.75 for it ( every bit of change in my pocket ) about 12 years ago. Had to re-solder a couple of wires back on to the output and re-tack the base on. Kept it for about two years and then sold it to an American for £700 ( Biggest mistake I ever made lol ) . It did make some proper dirty sounds 😝
My Behringer wasp does same "double triggering" of Control ENV when VCA decay is used. It's either Control ENV Decay or VCA Decay you can use. It's like control Env release portion raises filter open again.
Haven’t had any interest in the other monosynths Behringer have made... until this one😍 Im stoked they’ve followed through on the rumours so I can now go to a shop buy a modern, reliable clone of this unobtainable and unique synth. Thanks for giving us a look at this👍
Mate all EU plugs plug straight into uk plugs. I grew up in belgium before moving back to UK so have done this for years. Just use a screw driver or something that u can poke into the earth, this frees up the latch covering the bottom two inlets, , then u can plug in the eu plug into the english one (into the two bottom prongs/inlets) . Then take out the screw driver from the earth (or use somthing similar but plastic if scared). I have used this technique for years and it works fine.
The key reason the Midi and USB are on the top are for this who want to convert it to a euro rack and still be able to access the USB port, when you convert to Euro rack the back panel outputs and power are removed.
theres a huge diffrence in build quality between both companys youve mentioned, Behringer cut as many corners as possible and Novation well, theyre quality without compromise, you get what you pay for
I contacted Behringer support after receiving my pro-1 from Thomann with the eu adapter and they offered to send me the USA blades, but the shipping was more than buying a whole new compatible US adapter from Amazon.
agree - at 1st it wasnt getting a look-in compared to the model D but recently i'm finding the bass sounds really deep and raw. Especially when you apply the LFO - my kids were playing some sinister halloween bass sounds from it yesterday lol
Behringer wasp was my first proper synth . Since moved on to the alpha juno and cz-1, and replaced the wasp with a behringer cat, but sometimes I miss this thing. Lots of grit, limited (but not stifling), and man was it great for basslines and weird noises / percussive sounds.
You missed the most unique sample and hold that the wasp had. I was dying for you to turn the modulation depth of the LFO to Filter cutoff to max with Sample and Hold on. The original Wasps had a lovely rhythmic pulse and syncopated style to the Random (Sample and Hold) modulation that would could be heard when modulating the filter with a little resonance. It was particularly funky. Probably the funkiest S&H filter modulation on the planet. Please try it and see... I could hear evidence that they may have replicated this. Notes: there was no centre dead switch on the filter modulation knobs of the original. The knobs appeared to mimic the functionality of the original wasp. There was no PWM on the original (no ENH either). The original Wasp had only a semitone of Bend on the pitch bend. A unique feature of the wasp was the way Glide was implemented. The two oscillators would not glide in identical sync. One oscillator would be delayed. This created a unique effect when moving from one note to another. To hear the effect in full, tune the two oscillators so they are very close in phase (in fact they sound great when almost in phase and zippering in and out of phase) hit a low note. Then glide up about two octaves with a relatively long glide setting -if it is identically modeled, you will notice the oscillator tuning will thicken during the glide transition. This delay was mentioned in the original Wasp Manual. I used to own two wasps. They were my first synths.
Starsky Carr .....now I’m recalling that if you turned the oscillators and white noise off. And modulated the frequency cutoff fully (positive or negatively) with the LFO at max spreed and filter modulation depth and then turned the Q (resonance) of the filter all the way up, then the filter would still resonate just enough (despite no audio going through the filter) and you would get a convincing bubbling water sound (adjust the cutoff to taste). Its not the loudest effect, but definitely audible for sure. This happened on both my Wasps, so it was definitely unique to the original circuit design. Slowing the LFO down on this phenomena would turn convincing water sound into an arroya of syncopated pops and clicks which were cool as hell but needed a little extra amplification.
Funkspace yeah, I’ve been having a play at full resonance and it’s there. Quiet but useable. You can just hear the oscillators bleeding through very slightly when they’re turned off. Tried the glide as well. They do seem to diverge as they slide to create a thicker tone. Very nice :)
@@Funkspace your posts are VERY intesresting ! please post more about your 2 WASP... Starsky Carr, thank you 100 times for your good job and this good vid.
Top tip. I was driven mad by the wall wart thing too (Im in Ireland so same socket as UK)... next time your on Thomann... buy a German plugboard with 4 or 6 sockets! chop off the EU plug at the end and fit a UK/Ireland one. Now you just have to plug in one plug to the wall and you can use all your Thomann gear without those bloody shaver adapters!
mCKENIC I'm from Germany, but that doesn't make the Wallwart Problem any better. I thought of using a multi output, multi voltage changeable polarity Guitar Pedal PSU like the Strymon Zuma for that synth stuff...
Kudos to Behringer for recognizing the need for rack ears for their many rack synths. This is definitely not a Eurorack instrument, but it does fit the 80hp-compatible rack ears they just released, to fit the Wasp right into a standard 19" studio rack.
@@juanmico4085 Yep, Eurorack is a standard 3u rack height. And 84hp = 19" rack width. So unless I'm mistaken, this unit itself is ~80hp, and the ears will connect to it, and let it fit exactly into 84hp == 19" studio rack, 3 "rack units" tall.
I’m sure others have told you but the front mounted midi is for people who install this in a eurorack cabinet where it’s difficult or impossible to access the back.
You don't need adaptors to put euro plugs into UK sockets, if you are using multi way adaptors. Put a regular UK plug into a multi-way socket upside down, just the earth pin, to open the shields, then insert the euro plug and pull out the earth pin UK plug.
It’s unbelievable how many reviews, comparisons, Tipps an some great input in so short time you make! Appreciate this so much „dear Sir“,you are also the reason that I bought the stylophone and the crave ;- ) ( time to wait for delivery, but think it’s worth for it) Wish you a merry Christmas 🎄🎁
My Crave last week came with a UK adaptor, but as a separate shipment as the Crave wasnt in stock when I ordered. That was from Thomann also. EDIT: I should add that its an extra adaptor for the existing power plug, which makes it into a big, ugly hulking thing. It was free tho...
The double trigger is a well known problem. There's an easy fix with a 100k resistor apparently. I haven't suffered with the problem so far, but it's early serial numbers. Mine actually falls in that range of serial numbers so will look up the fix
Price dropped to $199 now... but still feel very whelmed with this. Guess it's kind of for nostalgia or enthusiast's sake, but feels like I should just spend a few more bucks and get one of their other offers like the Model D.
Great video thanks - out of interest between the CAT and wasp which would you say is best for the really phat gritty baselines? - both sound great but I don't really want to purchase both. Cheers
@@StarskyCarr think you - also did you solve the double trigger in the end - I noticed one or two user reviews picked up on that too so not sure if an early bug not spotted pre release? Cheers
@@horder2344 I ended up getting rid of it because of this. Someone told me its been solved but I've not seen anything firm. I just found it too frustrating.. so returned it while I could. I loved the sound, but knew I'd not use it in that state. I'm keeping an eye out myself to see if it's solved as I'd like to pick up another.
@@StarskyCarr Thats a real shame - as your message came through my Wasp got delivered! - fingers crossed its solved otherwise that's a pretty fundamental flaw.
Hey Starsky, what lead is that- USB 2.0 type B to B? does the lead go straight from the keyboard to the Wasp? If so, would that work with the Behringer model D?
I guess it depends on what you’re making. I always struggled with the SE1 trying to use it in trance tracks in the 90s. It basically took over the track. Now I could use it anywhere, it for years I hardly touched it.
can you link the midi patch bay program the mentioned? It's not popping up on my audio midi setup at all, It is in logic but nothing is happening, also I'm plugging it into my amp and its cranked but the sound is almost impossible to hear, I think i got a wonky one
It would be interesting to know why the digital oscillators aren't A=440 at 12 o'clock. The official Behri and Moot Booxle vids have the 2nd oscillator tuned at 2 o'clock as well. Edit: Looking at videos of the OG and the Jasper clone, it looks like the 2nd oscillator is in unison at 2-3 o'clock on those as well. Weird.
This was always weird on Wasps. This Behringer acts like every Wasp Deluxe I've ever played (three: one in a music shop, one rented unit on a session back in the 80s and Robert Wyatt's) with an interval of about a major third in one direction and about a sixth in the other. My 1978 standard Wasp has an interval of not quite a fifth going up and a reasonably accurate fourth going down. Unison on mine is at about 1 o'clock. I preferred the way mine worked because I could easily set an interval of a fifth by tuning Osc 2 right down on the pitch knob but up one octave - in the pre-polysynth days it was useful to be able to make an open fifth as a sort of poor man's pad to fill out a harmony part on a monosynth.
"After wasps ruinin' so many pikniks, who wooda thought I'd ak-tchu-lee find a wasp I like? I do like it." - Starsky Carr --> favorite quote of the day for me!
This version is way cleaner than the two originals I had back in 1979. They were fruity and chaotic. I never had the chance to scope them, but this Behringer version is waaaay too polite!
4:37 "It is 12dB so not self resonant" - I built several 12dB state variable filters that ARE self resonant, even a Wasp VCF clone... It obviously is a question of implementation. Just saying.
Always get happy listening to your reviews. Nice hands-on approach 👍 For the sockets, maybe you should get a couple of Eu-connector-splitters and turn your studio into a local Europe-socket-norm 😅
Hi. Thanks for all you great vids. I have a Neutron and PRO-1. Is there anything special about the WASP that would make buy one instead of another PRO-1 (or other) please?
Did u get one from Behringer or one on Pre-Order? Im still waitin for mine to show up from Sweetwater but their still being listed as not available yet...
0:55 You absolutely should winge about the plug, and it's entirely Behringer's fault. Did you ever manage to get the UK insert to put in the wall wart? After waiting two weeks to a reply from their "support" personnel, about the same problem with my Crave, they've told me to contact the shop, not them. Getting a useless brush-off response in the first couple of days is one thing. Getting one two weeks later is taking it to a whole different level.
@strawberry milk They finally agreed to send me one "after the pandemic" - so in about two years, I guess. I bought my Crave in mid February, IIRC. Still waiting for that UK plug, here in the merry merry month of May.
How is it Behringer's fault? If you buy this synth in a UK shop it comes with a UK plug. If you buy it in a US shop like Sweetwater it comes with a US plug. This guy bought it from a shop in Germany, of course it has an EU plug. It is up to Thomann, the German shop, to take the UK version of the synth from their shelf and post it to the UK. In this case they just sent the EU version, which they are quite famous for doing no matter what brand or item it is. Occasionally they bundle in an adapter. Probably the most common complaint about Thomann. This has nothing to do with Behringer whatsoever. Thomann just needed to ship the UK version which they probably don't even have.
@@stephenbradley3153 The wallwart is made for replaceable inserts, each of which costs pennies to provide. They could have provided both, and they could respond within a reasonable time frame when someone asks for the one they expected to get. I got one for my Crave in the end - it took about four months. Certainly Thomann are to blame too, and in my case DV247, which masquerades as a UK website, and has a UK showroom but still sent mine from Germany, with an EU plug.
I'm new to this stuff. And a guitar player. But I'm watching this stuff. How does it work with external audio, like a frozen guitar sound? I'm gonna check out your CAT video next. It's got my curiosity working. What can I do with the midi connections and an expression pedal?
Great review as usual! I wondered if my unit was defect. But as mentioned @19"01 "double triggers" - upon releasing a key the note randomly triggers again. I find it highly annoying! But at least now I know I'm not alone.
They fixed this on later models. I sent that one back and bought another a few months later. If you’ve just bought it new you would be able to replace it.
If you still have the problem, there's a fix in the main thread about it on Gearspace, involving soldering an 1/8W 1.8k Ohm resistor across one of the components (a surface mount diode). I'm fairly ham fisted at soldering, but I found it relatively straightforward to do. The 1/8W part is not essential, but it makes the resistor about the right size for the job.
why are there only three octaves on my midi keyboard with this synth, and why does this synth not responding to pitch bend on my midi keyboard? any help is highly appreciated.
The original only had 3 octaves - so the oscillators etc were designed and calibrated to work across the 3 octaves. To change octave you have to use the octave knobs - this might sound obvious - but the originals weren’t designed to work across all 6 octaves on a single octave setting. Maybe there’s an update to help - but I think others do the same. If the originals wouldn’t do it then changing the design would change the sound perhaps🤷♂️ just guessing - not an electronics engineer. 😀
I bought this recently and have loved the noises it can make. Within two days I was recording it into Logic in a piece I was writing. Thats where I tripped up. I needed the Control Oscillator to be in time with the beat and it was nigh impossible to achieve this with the knob. Looking at the manual/website it says 'Comprehensive USB/MIDI implementation...' but it looks like the only thing controllable is the note on/off (haven't tried pitch bend or mod wheel yet). I would not say that's comprehensive. That's basic. Anyone know the details around the midi implementation? I cannot find a chart on the web.
As far as I’m aware the co trolls are pure analog, so there is no MIDI control. I think this is the same for almost everything in the clones. They’re based on the vintage tech which was pre MIDI - so I think the only implementation is for keyboard, pitchbend etc plus firmware updates and general settings such as note priority via the Behringer app.
Starsky Carr yeah I have one for guitar pedals. That’s too bad I was hoping somehow I was missing something for synths. It’s power strips galore I guess
Looking at the features it looks like they did not clone the original EDP Wasp but the Jasper Wasp clone - but without the keyboard.. Clone of a clone?
Hi mate how do I set this up? Can I just plug it straight into my laptop using the USB cable, write notes in on the piano roll through my PC and manipulate the sounds on the synth or do I need an external MIDI keyboard to run it through?
It just needs any MIDI input, so a USB MIDI from your PC is fine. You’ll need to plug the audio into something to hear it and record it into your computer. There’s no audio over USB.
@@StarskyCarr thanks for the swift reply mate! I have bought an audio interface, so to hear/record audio what cable do I need and where do I plug it into/from? Am I right in thinking I need a jack to XLR, from the back of the Wasp and into the audio interface?
@@StarskyCarr The Neutron and K2 are the wider desktop format. Model-D and this are narrower. The Crave and 303 are even smaller. The model D bothers me it's not the same width as the other desktops. I'm working on a mobile rack unit and different sizes kicks my OCD in the head.
Yea, thats one of the keys to the Wasp unit. Its the same size as the Model D... So if ya need something that is the same size and dimensions. Ya now have another option besides a 2nd Model D unit...
Starsky Carr thanks for the reply. Although limited in its application, I’d suggest that feature makes this Wasp quite unique. Effectively 3 LFOs. Reminds me of my Polymoog! Just a note to say I really appreciate your reviews - thank you.
@@rdean150 Hi Ryan, Sorry, but you are most certainly incorrect on that. Please do more research on Eurorack. It can connect via ANY analog or digital source as long as you got the right modules. Peace!
@@ryanmoran8366 Lol I have over 2,000hp of Eurorack modules. This has zero control voltage ins or in outs. I can connect an electric guitar to my eurorack via one of my pre-amp IO modules, that doesn't make a guitar a Eurorack instrument. Likewise, my old Triton Rack 19" rack synth has audio inputs for running external instrument signals through its filters and fx. That also doesn't make that old rack synth unit a Eurorack instrument.
@@rdean150 If you could take your guitar and SCREW it into your eurorack case permanently, Then YES it WOULD be a Eurorack instrument. This Wasp synth clone was SPECIFICALLY BUILT to be screwed into a Eurorack case dude. Behringer themselves even state this! I'm not talking about voltage control at all here! Let me put this in extremely simple terms for you. If one decided to put this synth into their Eurorack case, they would then have to USE THE FRONT PANEL MIDI JACKS!!!!!! Tell me this, why can you take the 2 dry osc signals out??? Its so you can process them separately in your EURORACK setup. Dude I don't care if you have an entire house filled with Modular synths, that just makes you look even more silly for claiming that this synth isn't a Eurorack module.
I used to own one way back when. So I just had to order one of these. £300 still burning a hole, do I go for the Pro 1 or the K2? Had a MS20 but never a Pro 1.
They’re really 2 different things. A bit like asking if you’d by an electric scooter or push bike 😀 the WASP will give you thicker and richer tones much more easily … and has 2 oscillators. The crave allows for more exploration and has the sequencer. If you use a DAW and want something for analog tones then the WASP. If you’re getting into plugging various bits of kit together and experimenting with sounds then the Crave.
Hey up dude, know it’s a long time after, but just to let you know, I’ve been successful in getting Thomson to send out a U.K. power adaptor free of charge for something before (a bass whammy) after being annoyed at their EU AC adaptor and a converter bodge. Because.... Their solution of sending out a travel adaptor is actually illegal. Products sold in the U.K. must have either a U.K. plug, or an adaptor that cannot be removed without using tools. The travel adaptors they send can clearly be removed without tools.... So, as such, they’re breaching both the sale of goods act by providing something unfit for purpose, and the ‘plugs and sockets safety regulations 1994’. Once I quoted both of these and advised them to talk to their legal department about this practice being a potential litigation nightmare if someone were to get shocked by touching the pins while unplugging the euro plug from the travel adaptor, they were VERY quick to send out the U.K. Digitech adaptor.
I'm not sure the law you're quoting there applies when ordering from Thomann. Anything ordered from Thomann isn't being sold in the UK, they're just a German company that ships internationally.
Good idea for some folks, especially if they've a few Behringer pieces in the same rack, but for me all the Behringer equipment isn't on the same extension. I've UK plug for the laptop, camera battery chargers etc for example. The studio has various kit, the vast majority of which has UK plugs.
Having owned and loved an EDP Wasp for 20 years I could tell right away that this clone doesn't sound anything like the original. It lacks the incredible fizziness, the very deep and surprising dynamics of the envelopes, the huge depth of its bass, the grittiness of the filter sweeps, the fuzziness of the band pass, the pure electricity of the high pass, I could go on and on...the wasp is the most incredible little machine. This one sounds like a tiny mosquito...
You say the filter isn't resonant because it's 12dB/oct, but there are loads of resonant 12dB/oct filters out there. Must just be something about the Wasp filter specifically.
Yeah they put a circuit in specifically to stop it self oscillating. I realise other 12db filter do... just talking too fast and not explaining myself fully there!
MIDI & USB on the front makes sense if you put this into a case ;) otherwise nearly same archtitecture than the rest of the bynths .... instead of the wasp filter ...
It’s also got the Wasp oscillators, they’re digital based, so a completely different design than the others, plus the envelopes are analog with different functions. I’ve said this in a few comments but the front USB is odd to me as it’s the least eurorack of all the synths so far - and the others all have it at the back. Maybe something to do with their new eurorack case ?? Anyway thanks for the comment :)
I suspect they put the USB on the front so it wouldn't lose that function if you place this in a eurorack. I certainly wouldn't have minded that on my Neutron.
But why on earth would you put this in a eurorack? It doesn't have any CV inputs or outputs at all - this is not a Eurorack-compatible synth. I wonder if its main audio out is line level or euro level.
I noticed after I purchased my Neutron that some of the patch points are different from others I saw on UA-cam. I suspect the next gen will have the usb on the front most likely after the Eurorack Go comes out.
@@rdean150 It has Osc outs and ext audio in, that is something.
However, I think it sounds horrible and would not pay money for it. You can get an MS 10 secondhand for the price, if you are looking for a real 70's tone and feel.
@@caballorojo Think you might have missed the point, Behringer have gone mad with all their synth releases, and have attempted to cover a range of, for want of a better term, Classic Synths. Some, like Pro-Ones, some like Moogs, etc. etc. There are, as I can see in the comments, those who love the idea of a modern recreation of the Wasp. So, look at the others, find something you like or get a a second hand synth. You are welcome to bu my Sequential Pro-1 if you like, But i doubt you would want to pay what i could get for it elsewhere!
Basically, as always it's À chaçun son goût!
This is going right back in the day of early “affordable” synths, for back then. I remember, when I was a teenager in the early 70s seeing at the local University a four “box” MOOG that cost as much as a house. The Professor was really interested that it made various noises, white, pink, blue. As a piano student, I couldn’t believe that such a piece of non-musical instrument s**t cost twenty times that of a decent acoustic home piano. So this Wasp clone looks somewhat limited relative to the modern synths of today but it did make some good sounds that were musically usable back in the day and probably didn’t cost as much as the MOOG. Younger people I don’t think realise what a fantastic inexpensive synth world exists today relative to the high expense, highly limited function synth world of forty + years ago.
I think it would cause a lot of younger folks to dismiss the old units though, until they actually got their hands on one. Put the minimoog sound on a real Pratt-Read keybed and it is heaven.
It is therefore more strange that so little interesting electronic music is being produced today , in 70s80s only people that really knew to handle them could afford , and they really put time and their mind to it to make the best they could , now its unlimited tracks into a 50 dollar daw with a 300 dollar synth
@@cnfuzz Little interesting? Sorry, the problem is that there's SO MUCH music produced we can't find interesting pieces easily. with zilions of producers creating music is difficult to filter.
@@cnfuzz it think it just seems that way. There is certainly good music being made, but there is way more crap music because recording and producing has become more accessible.
@@cnfuzz think part of it is there seems to be no reward in deep diving like before. The algorithms rewards short release intervals. On the audience side, they get your music with a tap or click. No need to go to a store and pay cash. It’s very easy to dismiss. Besides, it’s nothing now to skim through a track to see if you like anything. I don’t think anyone was sitting at the cassette player with a new purchase fast forwarding to find parts they liked. You stuck that sumbish in your walkman and listened to all of it. That’s what I did in the early 90’s. Meh, I deep dive with my music but it takes a long time to make being just myself. This track I’m working on now is taking me almost a year!
Coming to the party late, but just picked one of these up for a steal. I'm surprised in your review that you didn't mention the obvious use for the minijack output, which is to feed it back into the external input via the ext. level control. When doing this the filter can easily be cranked into self oscillation, and can result in some interesting mayhem, particularly with the filter in 'notch' mode. Loving this little beast so far... it's like the SH101's ADHD little brother.
@@Synthysynthsynth As someone with ADHD I really couldn't care less. It was hardly even a joke, it's an off-hand comment someone made over a year ago. Get over yourself.
@@Synthysynthsynth adhd. Uhm ok. Well at least you don't have parkinsons, or cancer. Cheers, take care.
@@bond8654seriously. People are so odd.
My wasp story.... found an original deluxe ( Proper keyboard version) in a dump and paid £3.75 for it ( every bit of change in my pocket ) about 12 years ago. Had to re-solder a couple of wires back on to the output and re-tack the base on. Kept it for about two years and then sold it to an American for £700 ( Biggest mistake I ever made lol ) . It did make some proper dirty sounds 😝
"Proper size knobs"
After hearing the WASP on Thomas Leer and Robert Rental records I've always wanted one.
My Behringer wasp does same "double triggering" of Control ENV when VCA decay is used. It's either Control ENV Decay or VCA Decay you can use. It's like control Env release portion raises filter open again.
Haven’t had any interest in the other monosynths Behringer have made...
until this one😍 Im stoked they’ve followed through on the rumours so I can now go to a shop buy a modern, reliable clone of this unobtainable and unique synth. Thanks for giving us a look at this👍
A Goddamned liar is what you are.
Mate all EU plugs plug straight into uk plugs. I grew up in belgium before moving back to UK so have done this for years. Just use a screw driver or something that u can poke into the earth, this frees up the latch covering the bottom two inlets, , then u can plug in the eu plug into the english one (into the two bottom prongs/inlets) . Then take out the screw driver from the earth (or use somthing similar but plastic if scared). I have used this technique for years and it works fine.
I am scared :). Nice tip though
Yeah, don't do that...
EU plugs are sh*te.
The key reason the Midi and USB are on the top are for this who want to convert it to a euro rack and still be able to access the USB port, when you convert to Euro rack the back panel outputs and power are removed.
Looks like the one I was using to send signals to space aliens with back in '79.
Great demo, I think you do the best on UA-cam. Nice looking thumbnail as well! Also, you have a nice accent!
Novation provides all plugs interchangeable for the power supply. Behringer should as well.
theres a huge diffrence in build quality between both companys youve mentioned, Behringer cut as many corners as possible and Novation well, theyre quality without compromise, you get what you pay for
I contacted Behringer support after receiving my pro-1 from Thomann with the eu adapter and they offered to send me the USA blades, but the shipping was more than buying a whole new compatible US adapter from Amazon.
It is a great synth it has become a mainstay for bass sounds at our studio. Not fancy, but what it does it does very well.
agree - at 1st it wasnt getting a look-in compared to the model D but recently i'm finding the bass sounds really deep and raw. Especially when you apply the LFO - my kids were playing some sinister halloween bass sounds from it yesterday lol
Behringer wasp was my first proper synth . Since moved on to the alpha juno and cz-1, and replaced the wasp with a behringer cat, but sometimes I miss this thing. Lots of grit, limited (but not stifling), and man was it great for basslines and weird noises / percussive sounds.
USB on the front makes some amount of sense... if you’ve got a table full of Behringer synths and need to plug in easily.
Also so you can eurorack it
Yes makes sense
This is awesome.
I've got an original WASP that I bought back in 1980.
It's in need of a few replacement pots, unfortunately.
You missed the most unique sample and hold that the wasp had. I was dying for you to turn the modulation depth of the LFO to Filter cutoff to max with Sample and Hold on. The original Wasps had a lovely rhythmic pulse and syncopated style to the Random (Sample and Hold) modulation that would could be heard when modulating the filter with a little resonance. It was particularly funky. Probably the funkiest S&H filter modulation on the planet. Please try it and see... I could hear evidence that they may have replicated this.
Notes: there was no centre dead switch on the filter modulation knobs of the original. The knobs appeared to mimic the functionality of the original wasp. There was no PWM on the original (no ENH either). The original Wasp had only a semitone of Bend on the pitch bend.
A unique feature of the wasp was the way Glide was implemented. The two oscillators would not glide in identical sync. One oscillator would be delayed. This created a unique effect when moving from one note to another. To hear the effect in full, tune the two oscillators so they are very close in phase (in fact they sound great when almost in phase and zippering in and out of phase) hit a low note. Then glide up about two octaves with a relatively long glide setting -if it is identically modeled, you will notice the oscillator tuning will thicken during the glide transition. This delay was mentioned in the original Wasp Manual.
I used to own two wasps. They were my first synths.
Aaah I edited out the S&h at full reso - thought I was lingering too long on the one function. Shame I never left it in :( thanks, nice info :)
Starsky Carr .....now I’m recalling that if you turned the oscillators and white noise off. And modulated the frequency cutoff fully (positive or negatively) with the LFO at max spreed and filter modulation depth and then turned the Q (resonance) of the filter all the way up, then the filter would still resonate just enough (despite no audio going through the filter) and you would get a convincing bubbling water sound (adjust the cutoff to taste). Its not the loudest effect, but definitely audible for sure. This happened on both my Wasps, so it was definitely unique to the original circuit design. Slowing the LFO down on this phenomena would turn convincing water sound into an arroya of syncopated pops and clicks which were cool as hell but needed a little extra amplification.
Funkspace yeah, I’ve been having a play at full resonance and it’s there. Quiet but useable. You can just hear the oscillators bleeding through very slightly when they’re turned off. Tried the glide as well. They do seem to diverge as they slide to create a thicker tone. Very nice :)
@@Funkspace your posts are VERY intesresting !
please post more about your 2 WASP...
Starsky Carr, thank you 100 times for your good job and this good vid.
Top tip. I was driven mad by the wall wart thing too (Im in Ireland so same socket as UK)... next time your on Thomann... buy a German plugboard with 4 or 6 sockets! chop off the EU plug at the end and fit a UK/Ireland one. Now you just have to plug in one plug to the wall and you can use all your Thomann gear without those bloody shaver adapters!
mCKENIC I'm from Germany, but that doesn't make the Wallwart Problem any better. I thought of using a multi output, multi voltage changeable polarity Guitar Pedal PSU like the Strymon Zuma for that synth stuff...
@@orangenotviolet Im in the process of trying the MyVolts stuff with my Volcas... so far so good. Must try Model D next.
It just looks so good. I might not have that much use for it in a mix but, damn it if I don’t want it on my shelf.
9:19 I have the same knob position to be in tune with osc2... so I presume it's "normal"
The original is set the same (straight up is 5 semitones down from osc1).
Guess they just liked the sound of that particular offset
there's not any control voltage out or in because the oscillators are digital. its a really neat synth though.
Kudos to Behringer for recognizing the need for rack ears for their many rack synths. This is definitely not a Eurorack instrument, but it does fit the 80hp-compatible rack ears they just released, to fit the Wasp right into a standard 19" studio rack.
@@juanmico4085 Yep, Eurorack is a standard 3u rack height. And 84hp = 19" rack width. So unless I'm mistaken, this unit itself is ~80hp, and the ears will connect to it, and let it fit exactly into 84hp == 19" studio rack, 3 "rack units" tall.
I’m sure others have told you but the front mounted midi is for people who install this in a eurorack cabinet where it’s difficult or impossible to access the back.
You don't need adaptors to put euro plugs into UK sockets, if you are using multi way adaptors. Put a regular UK plug into a multi-way socket upside down, just the earth pin, to open the shields, then insert the euro plug and pull out the earth pin UK plug.
Behringer is coming out with some really cool stuff here lately.
Yeah ---- everyone else's designs. Nothing original. Arseholes - that's why they are always being sued
It’s unbelievable how many reviews, comparisons, Tipps an some great input in so short time you make! Appreciate this so much „dear Sir“,you are also the reason that I bought the stylophone and the crave ;- ) ( time to wait for delivery, but think it’s worth for it) Wish you a merry Christmas 🎄🎁
My Crave last week came with a UK adaptor, but as a separate shipment as the Crave wasnt in stock when I ordered. That was from Thomann also. EDIT: I should add that its an extra adaptor for the existing power plug, which makes it into a big, ugly hulking thing. It was free tho...
The ports are on the front because this can be mounted in a euro rack case.
The double trigger is a well known problem. There's an easy fix with a 100k resistor apparently. I haven't suffered with the problem so far, but it's early serial numbers. Mine actually falls in that range of serial numbers so will look up the fix
Price dropped to $199 now... but still feel very whelmed with this. Guess it's kind of for nostalgia or enthusiast's sake, but feels like I should just spend a few more bucks and get one of their other offers like the Model D.
It's $150 now. Perfect for my broke self.
Excellent review!!! been waiting to see some unboxing and first look, thanks a lot!
Got a nice sound to it, with the filter backed off, the tone has an undercurrent of menace, like any minute now it's going to kick your head in.
it's already had a pop at me! Had to get my dad round to sort him out :)
@@StarskyCarr Ha ha ;)
Great video thanks - out of interest between the CAT and wasp which would you say is best for the really phat gritty baselines? - both sound great but I don't really want to purchase both. Cheers
I'd probably go with the CAT for that. The FM capabilities can add some real dirt to your baselines if you use it carefully.
@@StarskyCarr think you - also did you solve the double trigger in the end - I noticed one or two user reviews picked up on that too so not sure if an early bug not spotted pre release? Cheers
@@horder2344 I ended up getting rid of it because of this. Someone told me its been solved but I've not seen anything firm. I just found it too frustrating.. so returned it while I could. I loved the sound, but knew I'd not use it in that state. I'm keeping an eye out myself to see if it's solved as I'd like to pick up another.
@@StarskyCarr Thats a real shame - as your message came through my Wasp got delivered! - fingers crossed its solved otherwise that's a pretty fundamental flaw.
@@horder2344 Let me know how you get on with it and if the retriggering has been fixed. :)
138 quid from Thomann right now, it's a no brainer again... thank you, great demo
Wow.. that is a no brainer.
@@StarskyCarr Thomann now sold out, Andertons have them for 149 inc postage
They don't send the US adapter when shipping to the US either. Third party one can be found but they void the warranty.
ouch...voiding the warranty is a bit nasty.
Feeling some old school Dr. Who. Love it.
Sounds like it needs to be in my house...
Are you plugging the keyboard directly into the synth with USB, or are you connecting them both to the computer??
Hi Starsky. Just wondering what software/plugin you used to get the waveforms and frequency spectrum for your demos? Cheers
Don't quote me on this, but looks like Logic
waveforms are with Meldaproductions free oscilloscope or SM(x)oscope .. well its called something like that .. FA is from the standard EQ in Logic
Hey Starsky, what lead is that- USB 2.0 type B to B? does the lead go straight from the keyboard to the Wasp? If so, would that work with the Behringer model D?
He explains it at the very start of the video!
Fun to play with solo but I've had trouble making it 'fit' in with anything else in a mix.
I guess it depends on what you’re making. I always struggled with the SE1 trying to use it in trance tracks in the 90s. It basically took over the track. Now I could use it anywhere, it for years I hardly touched it.
2:10 orthogonal plug might come in handy. Disadvantage of in-/outputs on the back is it takes a lot of limited deskspace.
It's almost certianly because it's Eurorack compatible.
super helpful! just got one and envelope delay was throwing me off until now. thanks!!
can you link the midi patch bay program the mentioned? It's not popping up on my audio midi setup at all, It is in logic but nothing is happening, also I'm plugging it into my amp and its cranked but the sound is almost impossible to hear, I think i got a wonky one
It would be interesting to know why the digital oscillators aren't A=440 at 12 o'clock. The official Behri and Moot Booxle vids have the 2nd oscillator tuned at 2 o'clock as well. Edit: Looking at videos of the OG and the Jasper clone, it looks like the 2nd oscillator is in unison at 2-3 o'clock on those as well. Weird.
Sounds like the internal initial oscillator frequency calibration needs adjusting .
This was always weird on Wasps. This Behringer acts like every Wasp Deluxe I've ever played (three: one in a music shop, one rented unit on a session back in the 80s and Robert Wyatt's) with an interval of about a major third in one direction and about a sixth in the other. My 1978 standard Wasp has an interval of not quite a fifth going up and a reasonably accurate fourth going down. Unison on mine is at about 1 o'clock. I preferred the way mine worked because I could easily set an interval of a fifth by tuning Osc 2 right down on the pitch knob but up one octave - in the pre-polysynth days it was useful to be able to make an open fifth as a sort of poor man's pad to fill out a harmony part on a monosynth.
"After wasps ruinin' so many pikniks, who wooda thought I'd ak-tchu-lee find a wasp I like? I do like it." - Starsky Carr --> favorite quote of the day for me!
This version is way cleaner than the two originals I had back in 1979. They were fruity and chaotic. I never had the chance to scope them, but this Behringer version is waaaay too polite!
just had mine delivered, great demo thanks
4:37 "It is 12dB so not self resonant" - I built several 12dB state variable filters that ARE self resonant, even a Wasp VCF clone... It obviously is a question of implementation. Just saying.
Yeah I know - slip of the tongue I’m afraid. I was thinking SEM. I noticed when editing and hoped no one would pick me up. I was wrong ;) cheers.
@@StarskyCarr Cheers! :)
Mr. Carr, I hope you are doing well. An important question for you. Have you seen any "double triggering" issues with the Wasp that you received?
Yes, he mentions it on the Video.
please look first then ask !
Always get happy listening to your reviews. Nice hands-on approach 👍
For the sockets, maybe you should get a couple of Eu-connector-splitters and turn your studio into a local Europe-socket-norm 😅
Wow this sounds so yummie ❤️
Ooh deadmau5-ey kind of sound on 18-ish minutes ... nice!
If anyone's wondering why there are visual glitches, it's the video not your monitor.
Hi. Thanks for all you great vids. I have a Neutron and PRO-1. Is there anything special about the WASP that would make buy one instead of another PRO-1 (or other) please?
why don't you ask yourself ?
Did u get one from Behringer or one on Pre-Order? Im still waitin for mine to show up from Sweetwater but their still being listed as not available yet...
Ohhh oops just noticed u got it from a retailer... Sure would be nice if mine would shoe up. Paid for it like a month ago or whatever...
i didn't even know Behringer made a WASP. Madness.
0:55 You absolutely should winge about the plug, and it's entirely Behringer's fault.
Did you ever manage to get the UK insert to put in the wall wart?
After waiting two weeks to a reply from their "support" personnel, about the same problem with my Crave, they've told me to contact the shop, not them.
Getting a useless brush-off response in the first couple of days is one thing. Getting one two weeks later is taking it to a whole different level.
@strawberry milk They finally agreed to send me one "after the pandemic" - so in about two years, I guess.
I bought my Crave in mid February, IIRC. Still waiting for that UK plug, here in the merry merry month of May.
How is it Behringer's fault? If you buy this synth in a UK shop it comes with a UK plug. If you buy it in a US shop like Sweetwater it comes with a US plug. This guy bought it from a shop in Germany, of course it has an EU plug. It is up to Thomann, the German shop, to take the UK version of the synth from their shelf and post it to the UK. In this case they just sent the EU version, which they are quite famous for doing no matter what brand or item it is. Occasionally they bundle in an adapter. Probably the most common complaint about Thomann. This has nothing to do with Behringer whatsoever. Thomann just needed to ship the UK version which they probably don't even have.
@@stephenbradley3153 The wallwart is made for replaceable inserts, each of which costs pennies to provide.
They could have provided both, and they could respond within a reasonable time frame when someone asks for the one they expected to get. I got one for my Crave in the end - it took about four months.
Certainly Thomann are to blame too, and in my case DV247, which masquerades as a UK website, and has a UK showroom but still sent mine from Germany, with an EU plug.
What a pretty sound.
I'm using my wasp with the key step through midi and it sounds very noisy
I'm new to this stuff. And a guitar player. But I'm watching this stuff. How does it work with external audio, like a frozen guitar sound? I'm gonna check out your CAT video next. It's got my curiosity working. What can I do with the midi connections and an expression pedal?
expression pedals can be used for modelling the cutoff etc.. but it depends on the pedal, its polarity and if its powered etc.
The manual says that the off button is an unaltered sine wave, can u do sine wave osc on it? xD
Great review as usual! I wondered if my unit was defect. But as mentioned @19"01 "double triggers" - upon releasing a key the note randomly triggers again. I find it highly annoying! But at least now I know I'm not alone.
They fixed this on later models. I sent that one back and bought another a few months later. If you’ve just bought it new you would be able to replace it.
If you still have the problem, there's a fix in the main thread about it on Gearspace, involving soldering an 1/8W 1.8k Ohm resistor across one of the components (a surface mount diode). I'm fairly ham fisted at soldering, but I found it relatively straightforward to do.
The 1/8W part is not essential, but it makes the resistor about the right size for the job.
is he controlling that with a usb rather than midi 5 pin? I've been wondering if I could do that and where the heck do you get a cable like that
I dont think you can connect a controller to a synth via usb without an interface and computer.
Loved your review. Just bought one on that basis. 🙂
why are there only three octaves on my midi keyboard with this synth, and why does this synth not responding to pitch bend on my midi keyboard? any help is highly appreciated.
The original only had 3 octaves - so the oscillators etc were designed and calibrated to work across the 3 octaves. To change octave you have to use the octave knobs - this might sound obvious - but the originals weren’t designed to work across all 6 octaves on a single octave setting. Maybe there’s an update to help - but I think others do the same. If the originals wouldn’t do it then changing the design would change the sound perhaps🤷♂️ just guessing - not an electronics engineer. 😀
18:28 Hinter Den Bergen (Grauzone)
what's the oscilloscope plugin ?
I'm quite partial to a nice notch myself.
I bought this recently and have loved the noises it can make. Within two days I was recording it into Logic in a piece I was writing. Thats where I tripped up. I needed the Control Oscillator to be in time with the beat and it was nigh impossible to achieve this with the knob. Looking at the manual/website it says 'Comprehensive USB/MIDI implementation...' but it looks like the only thing controllable is the note on/off (haven't tried pitch bend or mod wheel yet). I would not say that's comprehensive. That's basic. Anyone know the details around the midi implementation? I cannot find a chart on the web.
As far as I’m aware the co trolls are pure analog, so there is no MIDI control. I think this is the same for almost everything in the clones. They’re based on the vintage tech which was pre MIDI - so I think the only implementation is for keyboard, pitchbend etc plus firmware updates and general settings such as note priority via the Behringer app.
I agree with you on the power cord plugs. Is there an adapter anyone sells that you can use to daisy chain 2-3 of these Behringer synths?
I've not found anything myself. You can get them for guitar pedals but these take so much more power.
Starsky Carr yeah I have one for guitar pedals. That’s too bad I was hoping somehow I was missing something for synths. It’s power strips galore I guess
Looking at the features it looks like they did not clone the original EDP Wasp but the Jasper Wasp clone - but without the keyboard.. Clone of a clone?
fonitronik Compressed layout of the Jasper with an extra knob, usb, and 3 patch points.
Hi mate how do I set this up? Can I just plug it straight into my laptop using the USB cable, write notes in on the piano roll through my PC and manipulate the sounds on the synth or do I need an external MIDI keyboard to run it through?
It just needs any MIDI input, so a USB MIDI from your PC is fine. You’ll need to plug the audio into something to hear it and record it into your computer. There’s no audio over USB.
@@StarskyCarr thanks for the swift reply mate! I have bought an audio interface, so to hear/record audio what cable do I need and where do I plug it into/from? Am I right in thinking I need a jack to XLR, from the back of the Wasp and into the audio interface?
@@Deleted11100 it depends on your interface, but normally any jack-jack will do to get you up and running.
Sometimes... and i stress sometimes... Behringer does good things
I’d like to hear running the low out into the audio in.....could get gnarly
Nice idea I’ll give it a go in another sounds only demo.
Same size as the Model-D right? I wish they were all the same width for putting in a rack.
I thought they were? I'm not overly keen on the recent trend of putting everything on a table..?? racks are such a good idea :)
@@StarskyCarr The Neutron and K2 are the wider desktop format. Model-D and this are narrower. The Crave and 303 are even smaller. The model D bothers me it's not the same width as the other desktops. I'm working on a mobile rack unit and different sizes kicks my OCD in the head.
@@juanmico4085 Yes, there are two sizes of ears. Model D and Neutron width. 70 and 80HP.
Yea, thats one of the keys to the Wasp unit. Its the same size as the Model D... So if ya need something that is the same size and dimensions. Ya now have another option besides a 2nd Model D unit...
NO foil keybed :(
Do the ‘ENH’ waves share the same mod source for both oscillators? Fingers crossed for ‘no’...
Good question ... just checked and they’re different. Ever so slightly different speeds so it doesn’t sound like a unison PWM
Starsky Carr thanks for the reply. Although limited in its application, I’d suggest that feature makes this Wasp quite unique. Effectively 3 LFOs. Reminds me of my Polymoog! Just a note to say I really appreciate your reviews - thank you.
so whats ENH stands for?
Geylo Follen Enhanced, at a guess. Think I read it somewhere
labouch Aah you beat me to it... yes I think it’s ENHanced
They put the USB on the front for EURORACK users.
Odd, eurorack communicates via CV, not USB. And I don't see any CV inputs or outputs on here. This is definitely not a Eurorack instrument.
@@rdean150 Hi Ryan, Sorry, but you are most certainly incorrect on that. Please do more research on Eurorack. It can connect via ANY analog or digital source as long as you got the right modules. Peace!
@@ryanmoran8366 Lol I have over 2,000hp of Eurorack modules. This has zero control voltage ins or in outs. I can connect an electric guitar to my eurorack via one of my pre-amp IO modules, that doesn't make a guitar a Eurorack instrument. Likewise, my old Triton Rack 19" rack synth has audio inputs for running external instrument signals through its filters and fx. That also doesn't make that old rack synth unit a Eurorack instrument.
@@rdean150 If you could take your guitar and SCREW it into your eurorack case permanently, Then YES it WOULD be a Eurorack instrument. This Wasp synth clone was SPECIFICALLY BUILT to be screwed into a Eurorack case dude. Behringer themselves even state this! I'm not talking about voltage control at all here! Let me put this in extremely simple terms for you. If one decided to put this synth into their Eurorack case, they would then have to USE THE FRONT PANEL MIDI JACKS!!!!!! Tell me this, why can you take the 2 dry osc signals out??? Its so you can process them separately in your EURORACK setup. Dude I don't care if you have an entire house filled with Modular synths, that just makes you look even more silly for claiming that this synth isn't a Eurorack module.
I used to own one way back when. So I just had to order one of these. £300 still burning a hole, do I go for the Pro 1 or the K2? Had a MS20 but never a Pro 1.
too difficult to answer... get both!
Starsky Carr you’re a very bad man 😁
It looks so cool. I might buy me one.
hello!
Q. with the Wasp now being just £20 more than the Crave... which would you go for?
They’re really 2 different things. A bit like asking if you’d by an electric scooter or push bike 😀 the WASP will give you thicker and richer tones much more easily … and has 2 oscillators. The crave allows for more exploration and has the sequencer. If you use a DAW and want something for analog tones then the WASP. If you’re getting into plugging various bits of kit together and experimenting with sounds then the Crave.
@@StarskyCarr thanks for the reply, great channel btw.
Some really recognisable tones in there. Nice.
Reminds me of Black Moth Super Rainbow.
1:30 - a lot less patch points than the others, I must say :))
Thank you for the thorough overview. We would appreciate if you performed some music with it, but great review all in all.
Hey up dude, know it’s a long time after, but just to let you know, I’ve been successful in getting Thomson to send out a U.K. power adaptor free of charge for something before (a bass whammy) after being annoyed at their EU AC adaptor and a converter bodge.
Because.... Their solution of sending out a travel adaptor is actually illegal.
Products sold in the U.K. must have either a U.K. plug, or an adaptor that cannot be removed without using tools.
The travel adaptors they send can clearly be removed without tools....
So, as such, they’re breaching both the sale of goods act by providing something unfit for purpose, and the ‘plugs and sockets safety regulations 1994’.
Once I quoted both of these and advised them to talk to their legal department about this practice being a potential litigation nightmare if someone were to get shocked by touching the pins while unplugging the euro plug from the travel adaptor, they were VERY quick to send out the U.K. Digitech adaptor.
I'm not sure the law you're quoting there applies when ordering from Thomann. Anything ordered from Thomann isn't being sold in the UK, they're just a German company that ships internationally.
A very,nice sound ❤️
Much Respect from New Orleans Louisiana ◇ StephopalOpal aka Big Mama..Thank you for sharing!!
Tried one today at Andertons.. Midi now on the back..
Double triggering all over the place 😢
sounds great similar to the oscar, fyi adams if you register your speakers get a copy of imposcar2
Which midi patch bay application do you use?
its called midi patch bay :) for the Mac.
0:37 Why don't you get a EU extension lead? Then you only need one adaptor.
Good idea for some folks, especially if they've a few Behringer pieces in the same rack, but for me all the Behringer equipment isn't on the same extension. I've UK plug for the laptop, camera battery chargers etc for example. The studio has various kit, the vast majority of which has UK plugs.
I bet you'd get a UK adapter if you ordered from Thomann UK...
I did
What kind of cable are you using between the controller and the synth mate ??
That’s 2 cables. One is from the keyboard to the laptop and the other is laptop to synth.
@@StarskyCarr ahhhI see that's the problem with these small controllers. No dedicated midi io
have to many synths that do what this does . grate beginner synth . so basic ...i did say basic . Anyways another Homerun for Behringer!!
Having owned and loved an EDP Wasp for 20 years I could tell right away that this clone doesn't sound anything like the original. It lacks the incredible fizziness, the very deep and surprising dynamics of the envelopes, the huge depth of its bass, the grittiness of the filter sweeps, the fuzziness of the band pass, the pure electricity of the high pass, I could go on and on...the wasp is the most incredible little machine. This one sounds like a tiny mosquito...
Cool story.
Still, I'll take it.
You say the filter isn't resonant because it's 12dB/oct, but there are loads of resonant 12dB/oct filters out there. Must just be something about the Wasp filter specifically.
Yeah they put a circuit in specifically to stop it self oscillating. I realise other 12db filter do... just talking too fast and not explaining myself fully there!
MIDI & USB on the front makes sense if you put this into a case ;) otherwise nearly same archtitecture than the rest of the bynths .... instead of the wasp filter ...
It’s also got the Wasp oscillators, they’re digital based, so a completely different design than the others, plus the envelopes are analog with different functions. I’ve said this in a few comments but the front USB is odd to me as it’s the least eurorack of all the synths so far - and the others all have it at the back. Maybe something to do with their new eurorack case ?? Anyway thanks for the comment :)