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I think a UA-camr compared Kinger to an angel when he was comforting Pomni in hell, from his calming tone to when it shows him guiding her through hell while shining through the dark. Something like that helps a lot to get through hard times, right. And I bet you're not the only one who cried. But I have a question for you, who do you think would Abstract first amongst the remaining group?
I noticed that when Kinger has the shotgun in his hands, he always holds it upwards and NEVER points it in Pomni's direction, not even for a comedic gag, which is proper gun handling. Even an unloaded gun you never point at anyone or let it face a person even when you are at rest or idle. Any time he or Pomni moves in a way that would have put it in a position of pointing towards her, he moves it! It's a really nice detail that further proves that in this type of crisis, especially in the dark, he is reliable enough to remember how to properly use a weapon safely.
@@TineaMothLord Or a country with mandatory military service, though I'd assume they're from the US just because Gooseworx and the majority of the staff are from there.
I feel like before he lost his memories he probably took on a fatherly role in the circus. Like when he had a bucket on his head he talked to Ragatha like a father would to a older sibling talking about a younger sibling (and in the truck chasesence he did tried to help Pomni). And now with Pomni he acts like a father trying to calm his kid down, he even protected her in this episode and cared for her when she got so scared her eyes poped out of her head.
So real! I was totally expecting him to miss a shot as a joke or something. It was when he actually saved them that I realized something was off about him from how he usually is.
Small fun detail: in computer science, bug is a term used to refer unexpected issues that appear when writing software, so Kinger originally hating bugs makes sense.
What if Kinger was a dev, but Queenie was a QA (those that search, replicate and document errors, aka bugs). I can see how Kinger, being a dev, saw bugs as errors of himself/others. But Queenie saw bugs as an extension of the coder, sort of the artist's hand in a piece of work. Just as each artist has their style, each coder has their way of coding, and as such, their way of making errors.
There's a reason Kinger has survived the longest out of the players so far despite being seen as insane by others. His memory isn't the best when he's in the light so for him, it's like a dream whenever he's back to being lucid in the dark. And when he is lucid, the man is strong enough mentally to keep going despite the seemingly hopeless situation he is in.
@@leofinallyunderstandsomg not even close. I am the strong one. What I survived from him and the others since April 9 most people couldn't. This is all BS.
Kinger trusted Pomni enough to let her know about Queenie, only after a few days of her being in the circus, shows how close their bond became. It's sad that Kinger will forget their bonding, but set's the start for Pomni to OPEN UP to others, starting with Ragatha, something she struggled before. I feel really bad for him and I'm happy that he get's more love from the Fandom from now on.
There’s a somewhat subtle somewhat obvious hint that even though his forgetfulness severely affects his cognition/mental faculties, his underlying thought processes are pretty much the same so to speak. He gave the same advice to Pomni both times when it came to holding her breath, to not think about it. Even if he won’t remember having bonded with Pomni, their bond will remain deepened.
And also the facts that pomni was color blue at the time made it look like she was the soul. When they where climbing the stairs it looked like they where going to heaven.
I think the reason for Pomni's response to Jax is because she doesn't trust Jax enough to be completely and openly honest about her thoughts and feelings (honestly I don't blame her)
Was gonna say. Georgia was questioning why Pomni wasn't more open and honest about how Kinger really is as a person, and I was going "Well yeah, this is JAX she's talking to." Plus, Jax was really obviously just fishing for mocking material and/or blackmail. Pomni's response was the best one she could've given to shut down what Jax was trying to pull.
I get why Pomni didn't want to tell Jax what really happened. He seems like the type of guy to mock her or even Kinger to entertain himself. Plus, no one in the circus had any conversations with real, deep, emotions before- well without dying of course... I have a feeling she didn't want to ruin the moment by telling everyone and them probably judging her.
It’s her gaze that says, to me, that it’s more just her reminiscing on a more comforting adventure, rather than outright distrust. Were she anyone else, then they’d probably outright tell Jax that it was nothing, to leave it alone, or &$!@ off. For Pomni, this was a good day.
12:03 I didn't even notice that detail till you found it! Pomni is canonically Touch Averse. (Gooseworx, the creator of TADC said it, and you can see it in some of Pomni's body language in previous episodes) So the fact that Kinger was able to process this about her says a lot about how patient and understanding he is. Touching her WOULD have only made her feel worse. And then before they walk down the hall of souls together, Kinger OFFERS Pomni his hand, he doesn't take her hand, and waits till she's comfortable with doing that before they proceed. That is such a wonderful detail!
As someone who has Autism and ADHD, I found Kinger’s ability to function better in darkness pretty relatable. She has a point about how information overload can make it much more difficult to recall things most of the time. It can be frustrating for all parties when I have a more difficult time recalling things that were said, or memories of what I witnessed because there are so many things my mind is trying to process at once (both in the memory, and in the present). Being in a space that tones down the sensory overload can make it much easier to problem solve and even recall things.
Same here (ADHD and Autism) I preform better in darkness. Usually nighttime, as nobody’s around, which means less distractions, which means less overstimulation, which means you have control over your thoughts and your body.
I noticed that in episode 2, while Kinger had the bucket on his head, he was able to remember the difficult time Ragatha had when she first got to the digital circus. It is the darkness of that bucket. However, when he took it off, he forgot.
Another fact: Gooseworx came up with the name by coincidence. She just took two syllables that sounded nice together, looked it up to check if it was a naughty word in another language, and saw how perfectly it fit.
I love how this show shows how kindness can be infectious in a way. Kinger used his moment of clarity to calm Pomni and encourage her, and then Pomni thanked Ragatha for showing concern and caring towards her, which probably meant an entire world to Ragatha being that she has people pleasing personality.
24:32 I feel context is important here. That's Jax she's responding to. "Not bad" affirms it was nice without giving Jax any ammunition to use against herself or Kinger. If she had said, "I had a great time and learned something about myself." Jax would have probably made fun of Pomni losing her mind or something. Instead, her response gives hom nothing to work with, so he moves on.
Kingers monologue is absolutely the best scene so far in the series. Gave me the same feels as "I remember you" from Adventure time which is really saying something
So I think you hit the nail on the head when you said Kinger's memories are _disorganized._ Because I 100% see it. I think Kinger remembers everything, it's just that his capability to recall everything as a concise sequence of events erodes when he's not in his comforting darkness. But he does remember, I am absolutely convinced. It's all just shrouded by "brain fog" if that makes sense. I have no proof but no also no doubts. And about you disliking Pomni's response to Jax asking how her time with Kinger was, I think this is two things. One it's just general show writing, it's quite common that characters give vague, short, indirect answers to potentially meaningful questions like that, for various reasons. And two, the reason, I think Pomni's quite avoidant or reserved, and given how much of a jerk Jax is, I don't think she would have wanted to open up to him about how meaningful her interaction with Kinger was.
My only issue with that line of logic is the hesitant "I got us into this mess, didn't I?" Starting the conversation like that pretty clearly seemed to indicate that he doesn't remember, or at least not clearly.
@@maromania7 well he remembered that he was the one that dragged her down and it was more of a rhetorical like "this is my fault, right?" And the answer is obviously yes
Despite from suffering from memory loss what can be described as dementia he is in a happy head space. He is still a nice person at heart focused on happy memories best state for him to be in.
Right from the start, I got the distinct impression that Kinger was dissociating from his surroundings -- something had happened to him that shook his hold on his personal reality, with trauma being the most likely candidate (the show's cast is a showcase of trauma responses). Even so, we got occasional glimpses at his lucid self whenever his _perception_ of that reality was being limited, as though the reduction in the amount of overwhelming stimuli was helping him focus; that improvement in focus as a result of narrowing the field of sensory information coming in lines up rather nicely with a facet of life on the autism spectrum, though I've spoken with other neurodivergent folks who relate to that as well, so Kinger being an Aspie might not necessarily be what they were aiming for (though it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if he _was!)._
I feel like the Digital Circus would be overstimulating for a full neurotypical person, so yeah, when you're neurodivergent, especially a type known for being very subseptable to overstimulation, like being on the autism spectrum, the Circus would feel like one of the rings of hell most of the time. I know my ADHD ass would be tempted to try and burn it to the ground within just the first day.
He mentioned 7 years of being in computer science. I went into the same field, and autism (at least a little bit of it) is really common here. Most of my coworkers are on the spectrum.
First, this cosplay, especially the kinger head, are amazing. Second, I really love this protective, thoughtful, side of Kinger. The way he's turned such a traumatic memory into his main source of comfort, how being surrounded by darkness and remembering it is what returns him to this lucid state is so heartbreaking. Even if Kinger doesn’t remember how he helped Pomni, I'm glad she knows someone cares.
He is not thoughtful he is an abusive narcissist who abused and livestreamed me without my knowledge or permission among a lot of other things. He's disgusting and a coward and a liar.
This episode reminds me a lot of adventure times ice king reveal in season 3. It recontexualizes a character that was previously written off as " just crazy" with deeper meaning and allows The viewer to feel sympathy for them. Great video as always❤❤
I relate completely with Kinger. My thought process is all over the place, which is why when I am at work I write ideas down so I don't forget them. I get the finest stories, songs and poems since my work is monotonous and repetitive. Writing keeps me functioning and gives my brain a bit of a challenge.
I recall reading a discussion on whether or not Kinger will remember how he treated Pomni while in "Hell", and someone said something along the lines of it's like knowing someone with dementia, they may not fully remember the exact events of what happened to them, but the feelings remain. Regardless of how much Kinger remembers from this particular adventure, he'll treat Pomni the way he always had... which, I suppose is simply being as helpful as he can be, with mixed results. Edit: I'll admit, I also don't like using the term "crazy" when it comes to describing Kinger, at least not anymore. I guess I was OK with that descriptor back when he just seemed like a goofy character, but now that I know he CAN keep it together, given the right circumstances, I feel that "crazy" isn't the best word to describe him. Maybe forgetful or "out-of-it", not fully aware of his surroundings, I feel like just calling him "crazy" doesn't fully grasp what Kinger's deal is and does a disservice to his character... which is why it's a little disappointing to see Pomni say he'll go back to "being crazy" when they leave. At the very least, she knows the true Kinger, or at least Kinger at his best now.
I dont like the term crazy being called for him too, though personally i gave Pomni a pass since i feel like she doesnt fully grasp the implications of that word and just used it as a descriptor for him since everyone else did. Your disappointment is understandable though since Kinger is definitely much more than that
0:01 😂 Love the Kinger cosplay! Yeah, poor guy went through a lot during his time in the Digital Circus. Especially losing his wife due to Abstraction.
I think it's important to recognise the difference between a character using a negative word and the show using it. If the characters just call kinger crazy, that just shows that they themself aren't well educated on psychology or are even being intentionally mean like jax, but it's different from the show presenting a character as that thing. I think it's even worse if the characters are being nice to the character in question, but the character themselves are presented in a negative way, for example "hey don't bully our friend, thats not nice" and then the character is behaving in a way that is stereotypical or negative. It comes off as phony and disingenuous, while with kinger situation, it comes of as more that the characters aren't informed of his condition, rather than the creator.
And no one but Pomni, by the looks of it, knows about Kinger's mind when interacting with the dark. Whether it be it never crossed Kinger's mind to tell the other's, or if he genuinly can't remember or tell a difference when he is in the light again. Regardless, his speech to Pomni about as long as she remembers what happened, is all that matters.
Feel like with Kinger his fortress in a way keeps the memories in his mind with eventually down the line he will loose them if the fortress is gone after a certain amount of time
This episode really helped. This episode came out just after I lost someone very close to me. And your video made me realise how much I relate to kinger. I went through a lot of trauma and have mixed memories. I had a lot of death in general in the past 4 years and i can’t cry if I don’t talk about it so my body hold it and i actually end up physically hurt as a reaction. After so much lost i become very nurturing. I can never leave a conversation with the people i care about without a “I love you” because in reality I’ll never know when they’ll go but I want them to at least know I loved them in the end. Things that hold memories to me is, the moon, a paw, travel, holidays and now Christmas and birthdays. All those from different people. There’s a core part of us but what helps build us as a person are the people around us. Like kinger said “cherish the people around you” “as long as you remember, everything will be ok”
How Kinger is in the dark also explains why he was so calm and rational while talking to Ragatha with a bucket on his head in the second episode. Poor guy will do anything to spend time in the dark. Also, can we just appreciate how much of an absolute sweetheart Kinger is? This absolutely precious man is very paternal, even when he's not all there mentally as he was the one to try and help Pomni put her eyes back in her head and dove after Gangle's mask and, as mentioned, eased some of Ragatha's worries back in episode 2. He also provides love and gentle guidance when Pomni needs it the most and even tells her not to worry about him, even though it's clear that he's dealing with his own struggles that Pomni would want to do something about. He's basically the polar opposite of Jax: polite, gentle, and selfless, even if his thoughts are a disorganized mess.
poor guy is so traumatized, but also so kind and nurturing to the people around him, when he's coherent enough I know these characters probably won't have a happy ending, but god I hope the best for him
He's still just as caring when he's not lucid, but his solutions don't work nearly as well and his words sound out of context/character to the others x)
I was beyond surprised how hard Kinger hit in this episode. I'm a little ashamed to admit, I was underestimating him the whole time, seeing him as nothing but a joke character, seeing him as a running gag and nothing else. I cannot wait to see how the character relationships form further, and I'll be looking forward to your takes every time. ^-^
Hi Miss Georgia! How are you? I'm glad you're doing TADC! Kinger is a wonderful character to analyze his quirks and peculiar characteristics. You see, I'm autistic and have a mental disorder. So, I relate to Kinger so much. I also love his fatherly relationship with Pomni.❤❤❤
I’ve heard it before (a few times now I guess) but it was definitely a slap on the back of the neck to hear from you lol (maybe that’s too negative, what I mean is that it was definitely a shock, very unexpected)
Kinger is my fav and seeing an episode focused on him where he's not just a comedic relief. He has depth! Also, that dedication in your outfit is perfect!
If I remember what was said in the pilot, Kinger has been in the Circus longer than anyone else. And if you couple that with the fact that he's the only one who has this sort of behaviour, maybe we can assume that long-term exposure to that place has some sort of detrimental effect on their minds? :(
In all fairness, Pomni's response to Jax towards the end could be more justified by who she was replying to. Jax was more than likely trying to get a rise out of her like he did earlier in the episode, and she wasn't giving that to him after what she and Kinger went through. I interpreted it as her dismissing Jax more than dismissing her experience with Kinger, but I can see where you're coming from with your opinion. Edit: fixed typos
Yeh it like I would tell the that my good experience to that person he shitty jerk toward I do not ruin my good experience to tell that jerk whi just mock afterward
Other people already said a similar thing, but I’m pretty sure that Pommi just said whatever would get Jax to back off and stop prying into her and Kinger, because…well…just look at how he treats Gangle and HER precious comedy mask. He seems like the kind of person to, at least at this point in the show, 100% mock or make fun of Kinger’s situation and any kind of emotional openness between the other characters. The kind to mock or destroy shrines or memorabilia of other peoples’ loved ones. If, say, Ragatha or Zooble had asked that question at the end, I think her answer might have been a little bit closer to what you were expecting. Great vid! The kinger cosplay is amazing, very impressed with the head looming over your shoulder
The way Kinger's memory loss and the way he regained memory, makes me question whether or not he's buffing. If we assume that they are mentally speaking physically inside the computer like Cain believes is it possible that Kinger's memory is so huge it is competing for processing time against the map ( the physical space they're in). I know it's not likely but I think it's still a possibility that would play out in a simple way.
I think she said that her experience with Kinger in the Haunted Mansion 'wasn't that bad' was because, yeah, they had an amazing heart to heart. But there was also them both experiencing very terrifying experiences that I'm sure she really didn't like. Without Kinger's heart to heart, I'm sure her answer to her experiences would've been "The worst" or "Absolutely horrifying". Kinger just made a bad and scary experience a bit better.
As someone with severe ADHD, I often come across (and in many ways AM) almost as absent minded and forgetful as Kinger, so seeing this episode shine a light on this character and aknowledge his personality besides being the "crazy" one was really validating and nice :]
You got a kinger head!!! Your cosplays and handcrafts are always so charming ;v; also the camera struggling with keeping you AND the kinger head in focus is so funny haha- 3:00 NOOO rip Kinger!!
Kinger’s backstory just broke my heart and when they showed his abstracted wife leaning into his hand, ugh, that was just such a sad and tender moment.😭😭😭 It’s also really sad that Kinger learned to like bugs because of his wife and that he likely doesn’t remember that being the reason why.🥺🥺🥺 I love Kinger protecting Pomni so many times in this episode as well as comfort her and give her advice on how to survive the circus.❤❤❤ Him being the literal and metaphorical light for her is just so wonderful and touching.🥹💕💕💕 What’s also really sad is that it seems like no one else in the circus know about Kinger’s backstory because Jax and Zooble keep referring to him as insane/a nut without knowing that he’s able to regain his cognitive abilities when in a dark environment like his pillow fort.🥺🥺🥺 I love your cosplay outfit by the way.😊❤
It was Jax who was asking so saying it not bad allows her to be honest without giving him ammunition to tease them. It is super sweet how they bonded together and it very clear Pomni now appreciates Kinger.
As a person that have relatives with dementia/Alzheimer, I could never call Kinger insane. He just lost so much and still cared enough to ensure the people around him is alright.
11:28 that is interesting to me it means hes the only one that possibly knows who he was outside of the Digital Circus cause everyone else said they couldnt remember maybe its a glitch because of his memory issues or part of his own programing design before he went into the circus
@@GeorgiaDow Oh, hooray! Thanks so much for responding 😀 I love your videos they're always so insightful, and they leave me wanting more. Kinger might be my favorite character after this episode.
This episode definitely made me love Kinger even more, and I hope each of the characters get episodes like this too. My favorite character is Gangle. I can’t wait for that one!!
Gooseworx confirm every episode character centric episode like ep3 focus on kinger and zooble problem and next episode will gangle centric episode I also exicted why she like that
10:09 the fact you say this is so interesting because when Kinger says earlier “7 years of computer science for this” it implies that he worked with computers before ending up in the Digital Circus- and as someone who learned computer sciences, I can tell you those subjects involved a LOT of high-level thinking and problem solving, so it makes perfect sense why Kinger has those qualities!
I think Kinger may have retained some memories. In episode 2, when Kingers wears a bucket on his head, he talks normally and remembers Ragatha's experiences when she first came to the circus. Though I'm not sure if his wife abstracted before or after that.
I think the reason Pomni only told Jax that her experience with Kinger "wasn't that bad" might be because Jax isn't exactly someone that is safe to be vulnerable with. Pomni already has a hard time opening up, it took her until this episode to recognize that Ragatha has been trying to help her. So, it's not unreasonable to think that she didn't tell Jax any details about her experience with Kinger because he's demonstrated being mean spirited on multiple occasions and she doesn't want Kinger to be a target of Jax's reticule or to have one of the few nice experiences she's had ruined for her (like how befriending an NPC was violently ripped away from her.)
im so glad you covered kinger! love, love, LOVE this show, and kinger is my favorite character so far. my dad has dementia. it’s really hard. i also love that you like him enough to make a lil kinger cosplay! so cute
I think the reason why she said "It wasn't that bad" could also be that she really hadn't had a chance to process any of it so she could distill her thoughts down into something more articulate. Plus, Jax isn't someone she can be vulnerable to.
4:34 when I was a kid there was a power outage which knocked out the elevator while I was inside of it. I was trapped in that elevator for an hour and a half until it repowered not knowing if I would ever escape and no one knowing where I was. Before that I loved elevators and would jump on them for no other reason to ride them up and down every floor. Now when I'm inside one I get the overwhelming urge to escape that gets worse if somebody's in there with me. You would think the idea of getting stuck in an elevator with someone would be better than without someone but I'm autistic and terrified of socialization so being stuck with someone I don't know in an elevator is an even bigger nightmare
I love the symbolism of Kinger glowing when he holds his breath. It's a trait that's pretty useless and maybe even a bit annoying in times of brightness, but so vitally important when you're stuck in the dark. Just like Kinger himself who is usually too scattered to be helpful (even though he's always so quick to try to help, getting into trouble because he doesn't think before acting) but when the situation calls for it he gets focused and he absolutely rocks at solving problems. Even when the evil ghosts possessing Pomnio tried to attack him psychologically by mentioning his wife, he didn't even flinch or go berserk, he just kept beating the souls out of Pomni and stopped immediately when she was free of the possession.
One of the things that made me fall in love with how they wrote Kinger even only in episode 1 is that despite being the least sane of the group, he is still very kind. It felt comforting seeing a character that isn't portrayed as destructive due to their mental struggles.
After watching episode four, I’m looking forward to a deeper analysis on Gangle. I won’t spoil anything for anyone who hasn’t seen it, but it was incredible and once again a case where Glitch knocks it out of the park.
Memories are powerful, even the ones who aren't the happiest, but still leave an impact. In Harry Potter, dementors are evil spirits that feed on the trauma of others, causing the victims to fall into depression, or in Harry's case, pass out. The key to defeat them is to think of your happiest memories, while casting the Patronus- charm. Harry beat them by focusing on the time he first saw his parents in the Mirror of Erised. It wasn't "happy" per se but still powerful enough to beat the dementors. Kinger's memory of his wife- even when already abstracted- is enough to survive in this madhouse, and even help others survive, in the right circumstances.
I liked how the series(and you)deep dived into Kinger's character: Everyone brushes off Kinger as insane, when in reality, he's dealing with mental health issues a lot of the elderly have, in this case probably dementia, where ignorant people dismiss as crazy. I also remember a psychologist interview video on UA-cam I watched while taking a Psychology class in college, and they said the same thing: they dislike the term "crazy". (I agree, it's on par with "I can fix them".)
This allowed me ro process why I don't remember the worst racist experience Ive had. I often forget the professor that discriminated against me and just remember I had to fight a lot to report her but name, face, etc. are just a blur. I dont want to remember it because it was an extremely stressful experience and it makes me hurt and cry whenever I revist it. You brought sense on to why I cant remember it while so many others do
What I also enjoy about the glowing scene. Is the relatability it adds. Even with figures in our lives who seem infallible, who we look up to. They too still deal with the same issues we do. They're still like us. He might not wear it on his face, but he's still struggling too.
For the longest time before viewing Episode 3, I was thinking Kinger withdrawing into his pillow fort was an extension of a E5 fixation. But I love how this episode managed to completely recontextualize his character.
I love this episode not only for what it provided itself but it brings insight into Kinger's behaviour in previous episodes. Not only did we see a glimpse of a moment him being clear headed in the second episode when he had the bucket on his head and explains why specifically he likes being in his pillow fort, but throughout the whole show he consistently tries to help people out, even if usually he fumbles his hard. His heart is in the right place and his first instinct is consistently to help others out
One thing to mention is that when he was holding the shotgun and Pomni stepped forward he (seemingly instinctively) pulled the shotgun up to avoid pointing it at her when she was moving past him. These "muscle memory" skills are also among the most resilient things and least likely to be lost or forgotten. (even people with serious amnesia can still remember how to walk, swim, ride a bike, etc. for instance) His barrel discipline there strongly indicates that he's previously been well-trained with firearms and kept that skillset, even if he doesn't remember that he has it.
24:45 Not to deny it, but in my opinion, because Pomni still has trauma from Caine's adventure, and also because she is not as good as Ragatha and her conversation partner is Jax. Pomni didn't speak too frankly because who knows, you might get teased by Jax in the next episode (and because she just got to know Kinger better in that episode). I think Pomni's reply is still good
To me, i think Kinger has been in the circus long enough that he’s starting to legitimately lose himself to data fragmentation. After so long of a program running and compiling data, at some point it starts slipping. We’ve seen the computer the circus is hosted on, and its an ancient machine, probably doesn’t even have an ssd, so the harddrive is more likely to undergo fragmentation. He’s an old program, maybe in there for years, on an old computer, and dealing with constant pressures and traumas that can affect him mentally. Of course he’s gonna be scatter brained, he’s legitimately being scattered.
I think it's really cute thathe says "not think about it" and that is the first time we've really seen him think about something (well other than the moment we had 30 seconds prior) he has clarity and we get to see him when he is able to think clearly. He's a literal beacon of light for somebody, that's adorable.
im so glad im not the only one who thought this when i saw this episode i kept seeing eyes in the tape recorder but every time i subconsciously saw them i could see them as soon as it was becoming a conscious thing i thought i was going insane
its a weird time for me when this episode came out i saw how protective kinger is with pomni and knowing his backstory i get why he was once he can finally focus and recall enough memory to be normal i didn't know this until yesterday but one of my best friends dads passed away. when this episode came out it was a few days after he passed. and the reason i feel for kinger and feel protective like he is is due to the fact my friends dad was murdered in a road rage incident and it has hit me hard i spent the last 24 hours on and off with crying and tearing up. i am going through so many emotions and grief right now and its hard since it just happened however i know as time passes i will come to accept what happened and still feel sad but at the same time value my life and my family and friends more than before
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I think a UA-camr compared Kinger to an angel when he was comforting Pomni in hell, from his calming tone to when it shows him guiding her through hell while shining through the dark. Something like that helps a lot to get through hard times, right. And I bet you're not the only one who cried.
But I have a question for you, who do you think would Abstract first amongst the remaining group?
The angels that you keep mentioning aren’t all the angels but rather the guardians of the throne of God.
Mob physco 100 please 😢
I noticed that when Kinger has the shotgun in his hands, he always holds it upwards and NEVER points it in Pomni's direction, not even for a comedic gag, which is proper gun handling. Even an unloaded gun you never point at anyone or let it face a person even when you are at rest or idle. Any time he or Pomni moves in a way that would have put it in a position of pointing towards her, he moves it! It's a really nice detail that further proves that in this type of crisis, especially in the dark, he is reliable enough to remember how to properly use a weapon safely.
Probably means that these characters are from America as well.
@@TineaMothLord Or a country with mandatory military service, though I'd assume they're from the US just because Gooseworx and the majority of the staff are from there.
I feel like before he lost his memories he probably took on a fatherly role in the circus.
Like when he had a bucket on his head he talked to Ragatha like a father would to a older sibling talking about a younger sibling (and in the truck chasesence he did tried to help Pomni).
And now with Pomni he acts like a father trying to calm his kid down, he even protected her in this episode and cared for her when she got so scared her eyes poped out of her head.
So real! I was totally expecting him to miss a shot as a joke or something. It was when he actually saved them that I realized something was off about him from how he usually is.
Small fun detail: in computer science, bug is a term used to refer unexpected issues that appear when writing software, so Kinger originally hating bugs makes sense.
Hinted towards in the first episode where he mentions an "insect collection" aka "bug collection"
What if Kinger was a dev, but Queenie was a QA (those that search, replicate and document errors, aka bugs). I can see how Kinger, being a dev, saw bugs as errors of himself/others. But Queenie saw bugs as an extension of the coder, sort of the artist's hand in a piece of work. Just as each artist has their style, each coder has their way of coding, and as such, their way of making errors.
And the original bugs from when computers took a whole room were actually insects that got wherr they shouldn't! It's a full circle
Lol
There's a reason Kinger has survived the longest out of the players so far despite being seen as insane by others. His memory isn't the best when he's in the light so for him, it's like a dream whenever he's back to being lucid in the dark. And when he is lucid, the man is strong enough mentally to keep going despite the seemingly hopeless situation he is in.
He was very competent in stressfull and while under time pressure
Hes not crazy, hes actually really really strong
Hes not crazy, hes actually really really strong
@@leofinallyunderstands i mean he is crazy and when lucid is really strong.
@@leofinallyunderstandsomg not even close. I am the strong one. What I survived from him and the others since April 9 most people couldn't. This is all BS.
Kinger trusted Pomni enough to let her know about Queenie, only after a few days of her being in the circus, shows how close their bond became. It's sad that Kinger will forget their bonding, but set's the start for Pomni to OPEN UP to others, starting with Ragatha, something she struggled before. I feel really bad for him and I'm happy that he get's more love from the Fandom from now on.
Ok that’s new
i think that since he's usually inside his pillow fort he will be able to remember it for the majority of the time, or that's what I think at least
I think kinger has more trouble recalling than remembering past event. After all. He still remember how ragatha used to be when she first showed up.
There’s a somewhat subtle somewhat obvious hint that even though his forgetfulness severely affects his cognition/mental faculties, his underlying thought processes are pretty much the same so to speak. He gave the same advice to Pomni both times when it came to holding her breath, to not think about it. Even if he won’t remember having bonded with Pomni, their bond will remain deepened.
Tbh, I'm really excited for the next episode just to see how Pomni and Kinger will interact
Kinger glowing in the dark like an angel was probably my favorite scene
I mean, he WAS leading Pomni out of “hell”
And also the facts that pomni was color blue at the time made it look like she was the soul. When they where climbing the stairs it looked like they where going to heaven.
You noticed the angel's eyes are crooked like kingers?
forshadowing
Reminded me of Jesus Christ
I think the reason for Pomni's response to Jax is because she doesn't trust Jax enough to be completely and openly honest about her thoughts and feelings (honestly I don't blame her)
Was gonna say. Georgia was questioning why Pomni wasn't more open and honest about how Kinger really is as a person, and I was going "Well yeah, this is JAX she's talking to."
Plus, Jax was really obviously just fishing for mocking material and/or blackmail. Pomni's response was the best one she could've given to shut down what Jax was trying to pull.
very good points and makes me feel better about it
Honestly, Jax is exactly the last person you would ever want to open up to.
I figured she didn’t tell Jax because she didn’t know if Kinger wanted that info shared
Plus, they were literally in hell, not the most enjoyable of experiences
I get why Pomni didn't want to tell Jax what really happened. He seems like the type of guy to mock her or even Kinger to entertain himself. Plus, no one in the circus had any conversations with real, deep, emotions before- well without dying of course... I have a feeling she didn't want to ruin the moment by telling everyone and them probably judging her.
yes didnt trust him makes sense
It’s her gaze that says, to me, that it’s more just her reminiscing on a more comforting adventure, rather than outright distrust.
Were she anyone else, then they’d probably outright tell Jax that it was nothing, to leave it alone, or &$!@ off.
For Pomni, this was a good day.
Jax puts the Ja in Jacka$$, so i understand why she didn't want to tell him her moment with the father of the group.
12:03 I didn't even notice that detail till you found it!
Pomni is canonically Touch Averse. (Gooseworx, the creator of TADC said it, and you can see it in some of Pomni's body language in previous episodes) So the fact that Kinger was able to process this about her says a lot about how patient and understanding he is. Touching her WOULD have only made her feel worse.
And then before they walk down the hall of souls together, Kinger OFFERS Pomni his hand, he doesn't take her hand, and waits till she's comfortable with doing that before they proceed.
That is such a wonderful detail!
As someone who has Autism and ADHD, I found Kinger’s ability to function better in darkness pretty relatable. She has a point about how information overload can make it much more difficult to recall things most of the time. It can be frustrating for all parties when I have a more difficult time recalling things that were said, or memories of what I witnessed because there are so many things my mind is trying to process at once (both in the memory, and in the present). Being in a space that tones down the sensory overload can make it much easier to problem solve and even recall things.
Same here (ADHD and Autism) I preform better in darkness. Usually nighttime, as nobody’s around, which means less distractions, which means less overstimulation, which means you have control over your thoughts and your body.
I noticed that in episode 2, while Kinger had the bucket on his head, he was able to remember the difficult time Ragatha had when she first got to the digital circus. It is the darkness of that bucket. However, when he took it off, he forgot.
20:55 "As long as YOU REMEMBER it.." Fun fact if you didn't know: Pomni's name basically means "Remember" in russian, i think it's a cool detail
Another fact: Gooseworx came up with the name by coincidence. She just took two syllables that sounded nice together, looked it up to check if it was a naughty word in another language, and saw how perfectly it fit.
/Slovenian
@@binkyboy448...source???
I love how this show shows how kindness can be infectious in a way. Kinger used his moment of clarity to calm Pomni and encourage her, and then Pomni thanked Ragatha for showing concern and caring towards her, which probably meant an entire world to Ragatha being that she has people pleasing personality.
24:32 I feel context is important here. That's Jax she's responding to. "Not bad" affirms it was nice without giving Jax any ammunition to use against herself or Kinger. If she had said, "I had a great time and learned something about myself." Jax would have probably made fun of Pomni losing her mind or something. Instead, her response gives hom nothing to work with, so he moves on.
The dedication to the outfits is everything.
i know what you are
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24:40 I think Pomni just didn't want to spill too much to Jax since he's the least emotionally available of the group
THE COSPLAY HELP. thats really GOOD. The way he's just looming behind Georgia now
hahah had to have him with me come on he's so sweet
@@GeorgiaDow I love that sometimes the camera was confused about which face it should focus on XD
Kingers monologue is absolutely the best scene so far in the series. Gave me the same feels as "I remember you" from Adventure time which is really saying something
So I think you hit the nail on the head when you said Kinger's memories are _disorganized._ Because I 100% see it. I think Kinger remembers everything, it's just that his capability to recall everything as a concise sequence of events erodes when he's not in his comforting darkness. But he does remember, I am absolutely convinced. It's all just shrouded by "brain fog" if that makes sense. I have no proof but no also no doubts.
And about you disliking Pomni's response to Jax asking how her time with Kinger was, I think this is two things. One it's just general show writing, it's quite common that characters give vague, short, indirect answers to potentially meaningful questions like that, for various reasons. And two, the reason, I think Pomni's quite avoidant or reserved, and given how much of a jerk Jax is, I don't think she would have wanted to open up to him about how meaningful her interaction with Kinger was.
Yeh pomni does not trust Jax how shitty person who joke their problem she does not ruin her moment by him
My only issue with that line of logic is the hesitant "I got us into this mess, didn't I?" Starting the conversation like that pretty clearly seemed to indicate that he doesn't remember, or at least not clearly.
@@maromania7rhetorical questions exist
@@maromania7 well he remembered that he was the one that dragged her down and it was more of a rhetorical like "this is my fault, right?" And the answer is obviously yes
Despite from suffering from memory loss what can be described as dementia he is in a happy head space. He is still a nice person at heart focused on happy memories best state for him to be in.
Right from the start, I got the distinct impression that Kinger was dissociating from his surroundings -- something had happened to him that shook his hold on his personal reality, with trauma being the most likely candidate (the show's cast is a showcase of trauma responses). Even so, we got occasional glimpses at his lucid self whenever his _perception_ of that reality was being limited, as though the reduction in the amount of overwhelming stimuli was helping him focus; that improvement in focus as a result of narrowing the field of sensory information coming in lines up rather nicely with a facet of life on the autism spectrum, though I've spoken with other neurodivergent folks who relate to that as well, so Kinger being an Aspie might not necessarily be what they were aiming for (though it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if he _was!)._
I feel like the Digital Circus would be overstimulating for a full neurotypical person, so yeah, when you're neurodivergent, especially a type known for being very subseptable to overstimulation, like being on the autism spectrum, the Circus would feel like one of the rings of hell most of the time.
I know my ADHD ass would be tempted to try and burn it to the ground within just the first day.
He mentioned 7 years of being in computer science. I went into the same field, and autism (at least a little bit of it) is really common here. Most of my coworkers are on the spectrum.
First, this cosplay, especially the kinger head, are amazing. Second, I really love this protective, thoughtful, side of Kinger. The way he's turned such a traumatic memory into his main source of comfort, how being surrounded by darkness and remembering it is what returns him to this lucid state is so heartbreaking. Even if Kinger doesn’t remember how he helped Pomni, I'm glad she knows someone cares.
yes i felt it was such a poignant episode and kingers sorry so heartbreaking. Thanks enjoyed doing the kinger head i think it came out pretty spot on
Ayyy I know you, you watch Elijah’s content!
He is not thoughtful he is an abusive narcissist who abused and livestreamed me without my knowledge or permission among a lot of other things. He's disgusting and a coward and a liar.
@@InYourNightmares-t8w explain yourself what are you talking about
@@ConvenientlyShapedUsername idk. Theres seems to be a reocurring theme at least in this chanell
This episode reminds me a lot of adventure times ice king reveal in season 3. It recontexualizes a character that was previously written off as " just crazy" with deeper meaning and allows The viewer to feel sympathy for them. Great video as always❤❤
so happy you liked it = )
Caine also says "it's that adventuring time"
I relate completely with Kinger. My thought process is all over the place, which is why when I am at work I write ideas down so I don't forget them. I get the finest stories, songs and poems since my work is monotonous and repetitive. Writing keeps me functioning and gives my brain a bit of a challenge.
I just remembered that pomni doesn't like being touched so for Kinger to comfort her in a different direction is just ❤chef's kiss❤
I recall reading a discussion on whether or not Kinger will remember how he treated Pomni while in "Hell", and someone said something along the lines of it's like knowing someone with dementia, they may not fully remember the exact events of what happened to them, but the feelings remain. Regardless of how much Kinger remembers from this particular adventure, he'll treat Pomni the way he always had... which, I suppose is simply being as helpful as he can be, with mixed results.
Edit: I'll admit, I also don't like using the term "crazy" when it comes to describing Kinger, at least not anymore. I guess I was OK with that descriptor back when he just seemed like a goofy character, but now that I know he CAN keep it together, given the right circumstances, I feel that "crazy" isn't the best word to describe him. Maybe forgetful or "out-of-it", not fully aware of his surroundings, I feel like just calling him "crazy" doesn't fully grasp what Kinger's deal is and does a disservice to his character... which is why it's a little disappointing to see Pomni say he'll go back to "being crazy" when they leave. At the very least, she knows the true Kinger, or at least Kinger at his best now.
Well she is not physiologist she just normal human she describes him who will he become
@@runajain5773 I mean, I'm not a psychologist either and I'd hesitate to simply call Kinger "crazy" now knowing what I know about him.
I dont like the term crazy being called for him too, though personally i gave Pomni a pass since i feel like she doesnt fully grasp the implications of that word and just used it as a descriptor for him since everyone else did. Your disappointment is understandable though since Kinger is definitely much more than that
0:01 😂 Love the Kinger cosplay!
Yeah, poor guy went through a lot during his time in the Digital Circus. Especially losing his wife due to Abstraction.
i know heartbreaking
I'd love to see your take on Caine's attempt at being a therapist
That was something 😂
@@JasmineTea127yeh I really waiting for video zooble(and Caine)therapy section how Caine bad therapist
she's gonna take his license away 💀
Bro needid therapy himself not the person he tried to give therapy to
@@jestphoenix He had a license?
I think it's important to recognise the difference between a character using a negative word and the show using it. If the characters just call kinger crazy, that just shows that they themself aren't well educated on psychology or are even being intentionally mean like jax, but it's different from the show presenting a character as that thing. I think it's even worse if the characters are being nice to the character in question, but the character themselves are presented in a negative way, for example "hey don't bully our friend, thats not nice" and then the character is behaving in a way that is stereotypical or negative. It comes off as phony and disingenuous, while with kinger situation, it comes of as more that the characters aren't informed of his condition, rather than the creator.
And no one but Pomni, by the looks of it, knows about Kinger's mind when interacting with the dark.
Whether it be it never crossed Kinger's mind to tell the other's, or if he genuinly can't remember or tell a difference when he is in the light again.
Regardless, his speech to Pomni about as long as she remembers what happened, is all that matters.
Feel like with Kinger his fortress in a way keeps the memories in his mind with eventually down the line he will loose them if the fortress is gone after a certain amount of time
Having this lovely Kinger's head you made behind almost the whole vid was cute; your analysis as always was so good 👍✨
Yay, thank you! < 3 was so happy how it turned out
I believe Pomni's response to Jaxx at the end was an attempt to diffuse Jaxs antagonism without giving him any further ammunition for mockery.
1:05 gun safety king
i noticed that too, amazing detail from the animators. kinger knows his stuff
@@xlunipmaybe he enjoyed some range time when he wasn’t programming?
reminds me of the game shotgun King
@@AldinRamic I love seeing other undertale fans in the wild
Also contrasts with Jax's lack of trigger discipline in episode 2.
This episode really helped. This episode came out just after I lost someone very close to me. And your video made me realise how much I relate to kinger. I went through a lot of trauma and have mixed memories. I had a lot of death in general in the past 4 years and i can’t cry if I don’t talk about it so my body hold it and i actually end up physically hurt as a reaction. After so much lost i become very nurturing. I can never leave a conversation with the people i care about without a “I love you” because in reality I’ll never know when they’ll go but I want them to at least know I loved them in the end. Things that hold memories to me is, the moon, a paw, travel, holidays and now Christmas and birthdays. All those from different people. There’s a core part of us but what helps build us as a person are the people around us. Like kinger said “cherish the people around you” “as long as you remember, everything will be ok”
Somehow Kinger's speech to Pomni made me cry again. It was so sweet. So wholesome
How Kinger is in the dark also explains why he was so calm and rational while talking to Ragatha with a bucket on his head in the second episode. Poor guy will do anything to spend time in the dark. Also, can we just appreciate how much of an absolute sweetheart Kinger is? This absolutely precious man is very paternal, even when he's not all there mentally as he was the one to try and help Pomni put her eyes back in her head and dove after Gangle's mask and, as mentioned, eased some of Ragatha's worries back in episode 2. He also provides love and gentle guidance when Pomni needs it the most and even tells her not to worry about him, even though it's clear that he's dealing with his own struggles that Pomni would want to do something about. He's basically the polar opposite of Jax: polite, gentle, and selfless, even if his thoughts are a disorganized mess.
That scene also made me sad, sad enough it even made me cry. Kingers speech is just so well made, I love kinger he really is an angel.
poor guy is so traumatized, but also so kind and nurturing to the people around him, when he's coherent enough
I know these characters probably won't have a happy ending, but god I hope the best for him
He's still just as caring when he's not lucid, but his solutions don't work nearly as well and his words sound out of context/character to the others x)
I think the Lemon Demon song “Amnesia was her name” fits Kinger’s situation very well.
GASSPP I LOVE LEMON DEMON! I agree, that song is very kinger.
Someone should make an animatic of him with that song it would be so great
I was beyond surprised how hard Kinger hit in this episode. I'm a little ashamed to admit, I was underestimating him the whole time, seeing him as nothing but a joke character, seeing him as a running gag and nothing else. I cannot wait to see how the character relationships form further, and I'll be looking forward to your takes every time. ^-^
I loved this video!! It would be awesome if you could cover the underrated part of the episode with Zooble with their dysmorphia. ❤
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@GeorgiaDow Hope you cover Caine's existential crisis as well even though it wasn't featured that heavily and he's an AI.
Some folks think he is adhd from the way he is all iver the place. And how he just said himself his 'brain wont let him remember things'
Hi Miss Georgia! How are you?
I'm glad you're doing TADC!
Kinger is a wonderful character to analyze his quirks and peculiar characteristics.
You see, I'm autistic and have a mental disorder. So, I relate to Kinger so much.
I also love his fatherly relationship with Pomni.❤❤❤
thanks so much hannah = ) appreciate it
@@GeorgiaDowI did like you make another video about zooble Caine therapy section
0:28 neurospicy is my new favorite term
yay = )
I’ve heard it before (a few times now I guess) but it was definitely a slap on the back of the neck to hear from you lol (maybe that’s too negative, what I mean is that it was definitely a shock, very unexpected)
Neurospicy?
That's a new one
2:45 Well, if he doesn’t have traumatic brain injuries before, he sure as hell does now.
Kinger is my fav and seeing an episode focused on him where he's not just a comedic relief. He has depth! Also, that dedication in your outfit is perfect!
If I remember what was said in the pilot, Kinger has been in the Circus longer than anyone else. And if you couple that with the fact that he's the only one who has this sort of behaviour, maybe we can assume that long-term exposure to that place has some sort of detrimental effect on their minds? :(
Love the googlie eye Kinger head! You sell it on etsy?
nope but i was pretty chuffed how it turned out
If you made a second channel where you make your cosplay outfits, I would 100% watch that. They look really good.
In all fairness, Pomni's response to Jax towards the end could be more justified by who she was replying to. Jax was more than likely trying to get a rise out of her like he did earlier in the episode, and she wasn't giving that to him after what she and Kinger went through. I interpreted it as her dismissing Jax more than dismissing her experience with Kinger, but I can see where you're coming from with your opinion.
Edit: fixed typos
Yeh it like I would tell the that my good experience to that person he shitty jerk toward I do not ruin my good experience to tell that jerk whi just mock afterward
The mind is the thing to go in traumatic events
Other people already said a similar thing, but I’m pretty sure that Pommi just said whatever would get Jax to back off and stop prying into her and Kinger, because…well…just look at how he treats Gangle and HER precious comedy mask. He seems like the kind of person to, at least at this point in the show, 100% mock or make fun of Kinger’s situation and any kind of emotional openness between the other characters. The kind to mock or destroy shrines or memorabilia of other peoples’ loved ones. If, say, Ragatha or Zooble had asked that question at the end, I think her answer might have been a little bit closer to what you were expecting.
Great vid! The kinger cosplay is amazing, very impressed with the head looming over your shoulder
The way Kinger's memory loss and the way he regained memory, makes me question whether or not he's buffing. If we assume that they are mentally speaking physically inside the computer like Cain believes is it possible that Kinger's memory is so huge it is competing for processing time against the map ( the physical space they're in). I know it's not likely but I think it's still a possibility that would play out in a simple way.
Surprise mask reveal. This made me love kinger as a character. Fantastic video.
Georgia Dow one of the best therapist cosplayers. I love the series.
Wow, thank you!
I think she said that her experience with Kinger in the Haunted Mansion 'wasn't that bad' was because, yeah, they had an amazing heart to heart. But there was also them both experiencing very terrifying experiences that I'm sure she really didn't like. Without Kinger's heart to heart, I'm sure her answer to her experiences would've been "The worst" or "Absolutely horrifying". Kinger just made a bad and scary experience a bit better.
As someone with severe ADHD, I often come across (and in many ways AM) almost as absent minded and forgetful as Kinger, so seeing this episode shine a light on this character and aknowledge his personality besides being the "crazy" one was really validating and nice :]
6:00 i loved that joke in the show too
You got a kinger head!!! Your cosplays and handcrafts are always so charming ;v;
also the camera struggling with keeping you AND the kinger head in focus is so funny haha-
3:00 NOOO rip Kinger!!
mat pat is proud of your analysis
I love kinger so much, thank you for this lovely analysis! Also the cosplay head is adorable!
Kinger’s backstory just broke my heart and when they showed his abstracted wife leaning into his hand, ugh, that was just such a sad and tender moment.😭😭😭 It’s also really sad that Kinger learned to like bugs because of his wife and that he likely doesn’t remember that being the reason why.🥺🥺🥺
I love Kinger protecting Pomni so many times in this episode as well as comfort her and give her advice on how to survive the circus.❤❤❤ Him being the literal and metaphorical light for her is just so wonderful and touching.🥹💕💕💕
What’s also really sad is that it seems like no one else in the circus know about Kinger’s backstory because Jax and Zooble keep referring to him as insane/a nut without knowing that he’s able to regain his cognitive abilities when in a dark environment like his pillow fort.🥺🥺🥺
I love your cosplay outfit by the way.😊❤
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It was Jax who was asking so saying it not bad allows her to be honest without giving him ammunition to tease them. It is super sweet how they bonded together and it very clear Pomni now appreciates Kinger.
As a person that have relatives with dementia/Alzheimer, I could never call Kinger insane. He just lost so much and still cared enough to ensure the people around him is alright.
11:28 that is interesting to me it means hes the only one that possibly knows who he was outside of the Digital Circus cause everyone else said they couldnt remember maybe its a glitch because of his memory issues or part of his own programing design before he went into the circus
Oh yes, Kinger! The boy needs it! 😭
This video was great! Can you also do one on zooble and her body dysmorphia?
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@@GeorgiaDow Oh, hooray! Thanks so much for responding 😀 I love your videos they're always so insightful, and they leave me wanting more. Kinger might be my favorite character after this episode.
I love that the camera kept shifting between her and the Kinger head. Great video!
This episode definitely made me love Kinger even more, and I hope each of the characters get episodes like this too. My favorite character is Gangle. I can’t wait for that one!!
Gooseworx confirm every episode character centric episode like ep3 focus on kinger and zooble problem and next episode will gangle centric episode I also exicted why she like that
10:09 the fact you say this is so interesting because when Kinger says earlier “7 years of computer science for this” it implies that he worked with computers before ending up in the Digital Circus- and as someone who learned computer sciences, I can tell you those subjects involved a LOT of high-level thinking and problem solving, so it makes perfect sense why Kinger has those qualities!
I've always liked Kinger. I'm glad he's getting more screentime, and I think your analysis of him was very well done.
I can’t wait for the day you cover Pomni because I adore her. And also Ragatha when her episode comes.
I think Kinger may have retained some memories. In episode 2, when Kingers wears a bucket on his head, he talks normally and remembers Ragatha's experiences when she first came to the circus. Though I'm not sure if his wife abstracted before or after that.
I think the reason Pomni only told Jax that her experience with Kinger "wasn't that bad" might be because Jax isn't exactly someone that is safe to be vulnerable with. Pomni already has a hard time opening up, it took her until this episode to recognize that Ragatha has been trying to help her. So, it's not unreasonable to think that she didn't tell Jax any details about her experience with Kinger because he's demonstrated being mean spirited on multiple occasions and she doesn't want Kinger to be a target of Jax's reticule or to have one of the few nice experiences she's had ruined for her (like how befriending an NPC was violently ripped away from her.)
im so glad you covered kinger! love, love, LOVE this show, and kinger is my favorite character so far. my dad has dementia. it’s really hard. i also love that you like him enough to make a lil kinger cosplay! so cute
its a hard thing to go through I am sorry. But yes remember parts of him are still there
I always love how you go all out dressing up as the characters you analyze. And ofc I find your input interesting and insightful ❤
I think the reason why she said "It wasn't that bad" could also be that she really hadn't had a chance to process any of it so she could distill her thoughts down into something more articulate. Plus, Jax isn't someone she can be vulnerable to.
Yeh Jax is jerk to her
4:34 when I was a kid there was a power outage which knocked out the elevator while I was inside of it. I was trapped in that elevator for an hour and a half until it repowered not knowing if I would ever escape and no one knowing where I was. Before that I loved elevators and would jump on them for no other reason to ride them up and down every floor. Now when I'm inside one I get the overwhelming urge to escape that gets worse if somebody's in there with me. You would think the idea of getting stuck in an elevator with someone would be better than without someone but I'm autistic and terrified of socialization so being stuck with someone I don't know in an elevator is an even bigger nightmare
I love the symbolism of Kinger glowing when he holds his breath. It's a trait that's pretty useless and maybe even a bit annoying in times of brightness, but so vitally important when you're stuck in the dark. Just like Kinger himself who is usually too scattered to be helpful (even though he's always so quick to try to help, getting into trouble because he doesn't think before acting) but when the situation calls for it he gets focused and he absolutely rocks at solving problems.
Even when the evil ghosts possessing Pomnio tried to attack him psychologically by mentioning his wife, he didn't even flinch or go berserk, he just kept beating the souls out of Pomni and stopped immediately when she was free of the possession.
so well said
😂🤣💀 love that Kinger mask and cosplay on you. Good to see you this Thursday night/Friday eve
thanks so very much as always
That Kinger head is perfect
I love Georgia's dedication to cosplaying the character's she's analyzing
One of the things that made me fall in love with how they wrote Kinger even only in episode 1 is that despite being the least sane of the group, he is still very kind. It felt comforting seeing a character that isn't portrayed as destructive due to their mental struggles.
After watching episode four, I’m looking forward to a deeper analysis on Gangle. I won’t spoil anything for anyone who hasn’t seen it, but it was incredible and once again a case where Glitch knocks it out of the park.
Memories are powerful, even the ones who aren't the happiest, but still leave an impact. In Harry Potter, dementors are evil spirits that feed on the trauma of others, causing the victims to fall into depression, or in Harry's case, pass out. The key to defeat them is to think of your happiest memories, while casting the Patronus- charm. Harry beat them by focusing on the time he first saw his parents in the Mirror of Erised. It wasn't "happy" per se but still powerful enough to beat the dementors.
Kinger's memory of his wife- even when already abstracted- is enough to survive in this madhouse, and even help others survive, in the right circumstances.
I liked how the series(and you)deep dived into Kinger's character: Everyone brushes off Kinger as insane, when in reality, he's dealing with mental health issues a lot of the elderly have, in this case probably dementia, where ignorant people dismiss as crazy. I also remember a psychologist interview video on UA-cam I watched while taking a Psychology class in college, and they said the same thing: they dislike the term "crazy". (I agree, it's on par with "I can fix them".)
I feel like Pomni's answer at the end would have been different if literally anyone but Jax asked.
This allowed me ro process why I don't remember the worst racist experience Ive had. I often forget the professor that discriminated against me and just remember I had to fight a lot to report her but name, face, etc. are just a blur.
I dont want to remember it because it was an extremely stressful experience and it makes me hurt and cry whenever I revist it. You brought sense on to why I cant remember it while so many others do
I do the same thing
What I also enjoy about the glowing scene. Is the relatability it adds. Even with figures in our lives who seem infallible, who we look up to. They too still deal with the same issues we do. They're still like us. He might not wear it on his face, but he's still struggling too.
For the longest time before viewing Episode 3, I was thinking Kinger withdrawing into his pillow fort was an extension of a E5 fixation. But I love how this episode managed to completely recontextualize his character.
I seriously stopped in my tracks for a sec when I saw the Kinger costume's head, caught me by surprise haha amazing
I love this episode not only for what it provided itself but it brings insight into Kinger's behaviour in previous episodes. Not only did we see a glimpse of a moment him being clear headed in the second episode when he had the bucket on his head and explains why specifically he likes being in his pillow fort, but throughout the whole show he consistently tries to help people out, even if usually he fumbles his hard. His heart is in the right place and his first instinct is consistently to help others out
Kinger was always my favourite so this episode and your analysis was right up my alley
The way I laughed out loud when I saw your Kinger costume XD Love the puppet, fav costume so far!
One thing to mention is that when he was holding the shotgun and Pomni stepped forward he (seemingly instinctively) pulled the shotgun up to avoid pointing it at her when she was moving past him. These "muscle memory" skills are also among the most resilient things and least likely to be lost or forgotten. (even people with serious amnesia can still remember how to walk, swim, ride a bike, etc. for instance) His barrel discipline there strongly indicates that he's previously been well-trained with firearms and kept that skillset, even if he doesn't remember that he has it.
24:45 Not to deny it, but in my opinion, because Pomni still has trauma from Caine's adventure, and also because she is not as good as Ragatha and her conversation partner is Jax. Pomni didn't speak too frankly because who knows, you might get teased by Jax in the next episode (and because she just got to know Kinger better in that episode). I think Pomni's reply is still good
To me, i think Kinger has been in the circus long enough that he’s starting to legitimately lose himself to data fragmentation. After so long of a program running and compiling data, at some point it starts slipping. We’ve seen the computer the circus is hosted on, and its an ancient machine, probably doesn’t even have an ssd, so the harddrive is more likely to undergo fragmentation. He’s an old program, maybe in there for years, on an old computer, and dealing with constant pressures and traumas that can affect him mentally. Of course he’s gonna be scatter brained, he’s legitimately being scattered.
I think it's really cute thathe says "not think about it" and that is the first time we've really seen him think about something (well other than the moment we had 30 seconds prior) he has clarity and we get to see him when he is able to think clearly. He's a literal beacon of light for somebody, that's adorable.
dude i was not expecting to hear neurospicy from a hand puppet today but im sat
hehe hope it brought you joy
@@GeorgiaDow it did indeed, your humor makes the videos more memorable. thank you!
im so glad im not the only one who thought this
when i saw this episode i kept seeing eyes in the tape recorder but every time i subconsciously saw them i could see them as soon as it was becoming a conscious thing
i thought i was going insane
its a weird time for me when this episode came out
i saw how protective kinger is with pomni and knowing his backstory i get why he was once he can finally focus and recall enough memory to be normal
i didn't know this until yesterday but one of my best friends dads passed away.
when this episode came out it was a few days after he passed. and the reason i feel for kinger and feel protective like he is is due to the fact my friends dad was murdered in a road rage incident and it has hit me hard
i spent the last 24 hours on and off with crying and tearing up.
i am going through so many emotions and grief right now and its hard since it just happened
however i know as time passes i will come to accept what happened and still feel sad but at the same time value my life and my family and friends more than before